Hey man, well said! I've always enjoyed your positive, direct, honest, sincere and patient explanations on the CVT. I've had mine for almost 4 years now, only stage 1 ecu tune. Very nice video! I appreciate your detailed videos on the CVT, you have been a great help for the CVT community. Cheers.
I think its so silly when people judge what other people have for a transmission. If you want a manual get a manual, why you gotta bash others who dont want the same??
@Eggs Chilli cvt can easily outperform most transmissions at the moment, its just that no one decides to put the effort into developing them because customers complain about save the manuals/ cvts are trash. Formula 1 banned them, and if they are configured/made right it can keep you in the boost/power band the longest. That being said, at the current moment, yeah cvts could use an upgrade, at the moment per se
What I like about CVTs is that when accelerating, you can make it accelerate at exactly pace you want, with just the amount of throttle you give. When you're simply cruising, the revs go to near idle helping with fuel economy and being very smooth. Main thing with CVTs is that you should NOT launch the crap out it at standstill at every stop light. As long as you're moving you can do almost whatever you want with the transmission.
I recently purchased my 2019 WRX CVT mainly because of your video explaining how it actually works. I will definitely have questions for you in the future when the car arrives. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Did you get one because you cant drive manual??? I'm tier between buying a car infant drive Nd or just spending the extra few thousands for something I can
Blast Processing I actually test drove the manual WRX first and compared to other manual car I drove, it definitely didn’t feel as nice (Compared to Veloster N and Civic Type-R). The CVT however was much better than I expected. If you have the fund, I’d recommend getting another manual car unless you absolutely need a good AWD daily driver.
fr33x The WRX is at its best if you get the manual not the stupid Jetco CVT, The CVT makes the car slower, makes it a little heavier, and you get worse gas mileage
hereitcomes Thing is, have you actually driven both to actually make that judgement or just base it on other’s opinions? I am sure everyone has their own preference when it comes to car, that’s why there are so many varieties of cars to pick from. All I am saying is, this CVT feels great, and shouldn’t be scratched off the list simply as a result of stigma towards CVT. (CVT done correctly was actually banned from races from the past due to it being too efficient)
fr33x Just cause I haven’t drove a slower WRX with the CVT doesn’t make my argument flawed, now if you think that the CVT transmission that is found in the WRX “feels good” because of the fake eight speed imitation which is pathetic then ,I bet you’re someone who likes what Lexus, BMW and more car manufacturers have been doing with fake exhaust sounds through the speakers......... now your argument with CVT’S being efficient some cars with CVT‘s are efficient example the Toyota Prius , that might be more suited for you.
Yeah the key to keeping it going this long has been don’t park it just keep it running. I just had to replace the stock turbo because the waste gate had been cooked open because I had an oil leak that killed to coil packs... but the car was still running... however the raw fuel getting pumped into the exhaust super heated TS and burnt up the turbo waste gate and packed it with carbon buildup. That’s the first major component that needed replacing other than the AC compressor.
I buy a Mk7 GTI DSG and feel no obligation to share my opinion to those brain dead “manual is a real man” people why I chose it over manual, it is simply my car, my choice. If you get a Fiat Multipla and love the hell out of it I would still respect your choice and prefer you over some guy who drive a car he don’t even like just to show off to people. Remember in the end of the day it is what makes you happy, don’t live for others. Love your video man 💕
I bought a 16’ wrx cvt and I watched your videos before buying, still watch them after buying great content. Just did my first launch control and man it was quickest way to 60 for sure
I just bought a ‘22 WRX GT. While there is something to be said about “engagement” with a manual car, I know, I own a ‘15 STi as well, the CVT in the ‘22 is great.
Just ordered a 24 VB GT. I'm currently developing a mod plan focused on reliability and cosmetics, waiting on warranty to be over for power. Thinking 18/9.5 wheels, titanium cat back, AOS, metal bypass valve, and a cold air intake; definitely getting a dash cam to keep myself safe. This is the first car I've bought that was truly my own since I enlisted, retirement gift for myself.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 I’m a little over a year out before I can, but I’m looking forward to upping the HP a little bit. The guy at the place that’ll do the mods says the CVT should handle 300, 310 HP without a problem. I already know the motor is more than capable. This thing is going to end up every bit as quick as the STi. I love this car. Enjoy yours!
@@jimmyglea power is cool, 300/300 is the goal, but I'm buying this car for it's drivability and handling. I did a lot of executive protection in the Army and have gone through a bunch of driving schools to include O'Neal rally, looking to make a reasonably fast car that can drive over most terrain. I'm not sure lifting a GT works with the adaptive suspension, so vehicle height might be a tire decision. I'm going back to school for automotive engineering, figured I'd make cars my passion while I figure out who the hell I am lol
As a manual WRX driver, here's my opinion. It comes down to this; if this is going to be a tuning platform, and you're looking for a more visceral driving experience with a more reliable transmission and better performance off the bat, you should buy the manual. This six speed is SMOOTH, easy to drive, an absolute blast, and reliable. Subaru CVTs just aren't the most reliable and are very expensive to repair. However, if you're going to baby the drivetrain, and you're driving in heavy traffic, or just want a more laid-back experience, CVT is a great option. I drive in traffic occasionally and my clutch foot doesn't tire, but with my mods, my car does NOT like to go under 10mph in first gear, so I could absolutely see why someone would want the CVT if that's their daily drive. It's all up to you. Don't let so-called gearheads beat you down for buying a CVT.
I understand those who prefer a manual, all good wishes to them. I have spent the last 50 years riding Motorcycles, and Driving both manual and auto vehicles for different reasons. I owned an Outback with CVT and disliked it, the same with an XV. I also had VW Jetta with the GTi motor and a DCT box which was awesome. However, I recently decided to buy a new WRX and against my own feelings decided on the CVT. Well, I have made the right choice…….this thing is a real hoot in the twisty mountain roads I most enjoy - point and shoot - Haven’t got time for a bloody gear stick as I am too busy enjoying the ride and working the steering wheel which takes both hands at my age 🤓. I guess I would be even happier with a DCT but at what cost? Anyway - so far I have no complaints and am enjoying my new WRX Premium with CVT. 😎
I think you are partially correct on why there are fake shifts. I believe they did that because cvts whine up and stay at rpms consistently which can get very annoying. So they "shift" it to change engine frequency to help with NVH. Look at the interiors of the newest subarus, they are definitely trying to do what buick does which is offering budget luxury.
Like your answer to that question. I share my car and drove in Seattle for 3 years with a standard, never gonna do that again. I fell back in love with automatic but still love the wrx
@@victorrubio9085 I hear you, I really want to buy this car, might drive it all year for a couple seasons being I live in Toronto Canada and this thing would be a monster for the winter, but I think a winter beater would be nice so I can preserve the WRX
Subaru added the "simulated" gears for the same reasons Apple added the "simulated" button push for a non-button that doesn't move. Humans love the tactile sensations of things.
The amount of haters in your comment section are pathetic lmao everyone has their own opinions and preferences in buying their OWN vehicle. Here on the island of Oahu in Hawaii, we have the WORST traffic in the country! Nobody drives manual anymore over here because of it. Not to mention our speed limit averages 55 on the freeway. I have 2 boys and wanted a more powerful car to drive while still being a sporty sedan. Not to mention my wife doesn't drive manual either so we can share the car if need be. Everything you explained in your videos are perfect and on spot. You just earned a sub brother, keep doing what you do and Mahalo from Hawaii.
An automatic transmission is a necessity for me because of stop-and-go rush hour traffic. Also, I have Subaru’s EyeSight with my CVT Impreza. On you get use to the EyeSight, you won’t like driving without it.
I feel like so many people hate on CVTs because they're afraid to admit that a CVT is the most efficient transmission design in terms of power delivery. A 3 pedal manual, in 2019, is literally the SLOWEST type of transmission as has been documented by pretty much everyone. Of course, that's not really the point (I own a Focus ST with a 6MT). As long as you can preselect your gear ratios (paddles) so that you are in the powerband, the only compromise with a CVT is from an emotional perspective. CVTs are faster and easier to drive when you compare the same car with two transmissions; an unfortunate fact of life for some, but not you and not me.
I feel like Subaru could have picked a better automatic transmission to put into the wrx. Plenty of other companies used the zf 8 speed in their sports cars and they are fantastic. Dual clutch transmissions are too expensive, need way more maintenance, and clutch packs wear out faster than a torque converter. My brother bought a 2015 wrx cvt brand new and hasn’t had any problems that I’m aware of. He also doesn’t drive the car aggressively. He picked it because he never learned how to drive a manual and didn’t want to do so on a $30,000 dollar car. I see where these cvt wrx’s come into play, but personally decided to get a manual in my 2019 wrx. If Subaru had gone with a traditional automatic I may have considered it because I sit in a lot of traffic. I just couldn’t bring myself to buy a cvt.
subaru can't bolt on a transmission from another manufacturer to their engine. The front and center diffs and front driveshafts are integrated into the transmission. They have to do the R&D themselves, which they won't do to put in 1 single low-volume car, or add in a transfer case and completely throw the "Symmetrical" part of their awd out the window on the WRX, which they also won't do.
I own a 2017 WRX CVT and i can say that next year I will be trading it in for an STI. This car is so much fun to drive don't get me wrong. Its more a personal preference. After looking at the cost of upgrading for hp it does not seem worth it. Especially the torque converter.......$2k. CVT COOLER IS A MUST if you plan on doing anything to the car. I put a cold air intake in with a cobb tune and the oil has reached 225 degrees at one point. I can either put a cvt cooler to ensure safety or keep stock for resale value.
Boost & Shutter I remember the video of you driving the STI and liked it alot. You plan on upgrading in the future? I just wish our CVT's could take alot of torque like other DC autos
I agree with the reason Subaru choosing CVT over DCT. Makes absolute financial sense in doing so. It is more so of a copy paste method in a sense. Do one thing really well, and continue to make slight improvements over time. I do say, the new EV looks horrendous though.
The CVT discussion will be interesting....when we discuss about the next-gen STI (which is rumored to have a hybrid electric motor). The ICE - electric motor combo *might* allow integration of a CVT for a next gen STI.
@@akqjtn Interesting. As for the next-gen STI, Subaru would obviously need to retire the EJ series engine for sure. I predict that a combination of FA/FB engine with electric motor would be necessary....in order for a future STI to be sold in Europe (or in any territory that requires Euro 6D/WLTP/RDE II emission law)
Thx for putting this video together. I test drove drove a 16 limited cvt and honestly it wasn't that bad. Shoot, Porsche is moving away from manuals. It's amazing how the internet runs around with blinders on. I am for most a 3 pedal guy, but my wife isnt. The CVT in the WRX would allow each of us to drive the car and if I want to bang "gears" with the paddles or let the car do its thing. Not everyone lives on a racetrack and here in SW OH, these roads can be rather crappy and congested at times. Cheers.
Excellent video. I currently drive the WRX CVT. I've only done just over 1000km. At 1K the Subaru dealer wants the car back for a free service just to check over the engine etc. At this point I had them change the oil, which I paid a small amount for. The dealer said they flush out the old oil when doing a oil change so this is what they did. I did notice the engine sounded different for a short time after picking it up so I'm sure they did the flush. Make no mistake, this is definitely a performance vehicle. They have mellowed the shape somewhat but rest assured this thing will eat your licence for breakfast if you let it. Don't let anyone tell you this is not a sports car, Im willing to say this will be all the speed and handling you will ever need and you can drive it around like a non sport sedan most of the time. Perfect.
Great video, and really well said! I took a lot of shit from people when I bought a GTI with the DSG and felt like I was always justifying the choice. I can't to see what the 2021 WRX is going to bring and will definitely consider the CVT when I buy.
I’m thinking about getting a wrx cvt for a daily and its a pretty good deal. The reason why its a good deal is because its a lemon. The car had the shortblock, ecm and cams replaced. Any advice?
I love my 18 LTD CVT, and so does everyone that I have allowed to drive it. I would buy it again in a heartbeat. It is bone stock and I plan to keep it that way. I still havent launched it. Great video as always! My question is, does the cars computer log if it has been launched?
Much love brotha, no hate, as I owned a 2012 Impreza 2.0i CVT and went to a 2018 WRX MT. It’s multitude of reasons for one over the other. My only correction i want to make is that the WRX isn’t a “Sports Car”. It’s a “Performance Sedan”. Yes it can also be called a “Sport Sedan” because it has attributes similar to that of a sports car, but by definition the WRX and STI platform isn’t a sports car. That’s it:) keep up the good work.
They can't. The center and front diff's are integrated into subaru's transmissions. The BRZ being rear-wheel drive is the only reason it's able to use the transmission it has.
Your off on your pricing. It only cost about 8.5k to build a wrx and about 9k for an sti. This includes all parts, labor and fuel cost to get parts to the plant. This also figures the development cost and is why car company's push for high quantities of sales.
I Have a 22 wrx base with CVT, the only mod i did and will do are my Nameless axelbacks mufllers. What is your experience on add-on axlebacks and manufacturer warranty. Thanks for your great content 👍🏼
Went to the Showroom today to check out the Car... Absolutely in love with it... Hopefully I can figure out the finance asap... And get this Baby... !!! 👻👻👻 Unfortunately they dun provide test rides.. so I still dun know how does it feel to drive... And have u made a video where u launch the car... ???
Have you experience the issue when the rev is low and you suddenly give a lot of throttle, the engine just revs up but it felt like not much power is put to wheels? I've noticed this on hotter days and driving up hill.
hi every time a wheel lost traction VDC takes over, I get wheel spin even on dry surface and vdc keep braking and slow the car down it’s annoying......is this normal on this car? this happens a long has one wheel is slightly rised......then the vdc kick in spinning my wheel
I'm kinda scared going forward with this car. With the recall on the cvt transmission on the 15' and 16' leads me to believe that something down the road will go wrong. Second is the carbon buildup in the engine and I'm seeing multiple complaints about turbo leaks and carbon buildup up I hope the 19's fix those issues
@@akqjtn I definitely agree. My only concern is driving in snow I'm gonna be moving from CA to Ohio and I'm not sure how well my Corolla will handle it lol when I do decide to pull the trigger I don't plan on doing anything mods just "spirited driving"
Brompton Lawyer heating up a cvt will kill it. If your always revving out your car, it’s likely it will go out sooner. Unless your changing your transmission fluid every 30k miles.
Find it funny when people bitch about people who drive a auto, don't they know most new super car's are auto/dual clutch, the Aventador has a auto-manual transmission.
... Yes. Higher octane delays fuel detination so the fuel ignites when the car wants it to. If the car senses pre-detination, it will pull timing (to protect itself). Pulling timing will result in reduce overall hp.
I'm interested in the 2020 WRX which after watching many videos has brought me to your channel. I have an off topic question for you if you wouldn't mind. My wife has a 2017 Forester and we've had problems finding cell phone holder's for her vent which looks very similar to yours in the WRX. Just wondering what your using here . Thanks!
@@akqjtn That might work but it looked like what you were using in the video was some sort of clip mount for the vent. I haven't found one yet that worked very well and thought your vent set up in the WRX looks a lot like her Forester. Thanks for your time, I really enjoy watching your ride along vlogs. 👍
The CVT is a huge issue because CVT's don't belong in any car that isn't meant to be a commuter. Only reason Subaru doesn't have an traditional "automatic" because they save money by just investing and developing the CVT. They don't make enough money to carry both a traditional automatic and CVT alongside each other. Subaru customers could care less about a CVT because all they want is the symmetrical AWD. The only reason I hate on the CVT WRX because it doesn't drive like an "automatic WRX" should. Enthusiast know it , Subaru customers don't. To each their own, but a real sports/rally car has a real auto/dual clutch or a manual, not a commuter transmission.
Please lol. I was stating if this current gen had a real "automatic". And yes there are automatic WRX's look at the two gens previous to this gen. @@441meatloaf
@@guantai69 Oh thats what you mean. The only auto WRX i could find on google search was the STI A-line in 2009, but that car setup was like a DCT with paddle shifters. Subaru hasn't adopted DCT yet, but i doubt that will change.
@@guantai69 Second CVT isn't the really the weak link in the transmission, its usually the torque converter. Hence performance models generally have a better tuned version of torque converter rather than your typical economy commuter, which isn't built for launching.
I was going to buy a wrx with a cvt reason why my wife can’t drive stick I test drove one I hate and I would have to explain to people why I got a wrx with a cvt lol so I just got a 14 Infiniti Q50 I love it same price
What do you think about that new cvt in the new corolla with the an actual first gear for launching? I hear the first batch had some recalls, but I hear it’s the best cvt.
Why get an auto? "none of ur business" Too much traffic is an excuse, as someone who drives manual in traffic all the time in jersey, it's second nature, u don't even think about it
It's not for everyone however. Majority of people spending over $30k want some convenience to come with the car. Sales of automatics allow manufacturers to keep the manuals up. They wouldn't be making automatics if the public wasn't interested.
From my limited understanding, the CVT isn't the power limiting factor, it's the torque converter. Once the TC goes, it takes the CVT with it. There are a few beefed up TCs out there, but haven't seen definitive power improvements with them.
It's exactly how he said it. Most your getting to 300 hp with a modified intake & exhaust. It will give a 10% acceleration. Look up the WRX S4 it's a cvt in 🇯🇵 it looks 😎
all transmissions cvt only have a single change the company that makes the car makes us believe that the car has 6 speed automatic and it is a lie that you put a failure in the ecu that changes to certain RPM but all the transmission cvt has only 1 change and to take better care of your engine use pump 91 or 93 always and the transmission cvt is not good can not stand or 100,000 miles you can be sure if you put a oil cooler can hold a little more
I was going to buy a wrx with a cvt reason why my wife can’t drive stick I test drove one I hate and I would have to explain to people why I got a wrx with a cvt lol so I just got a 14 Infiniti Q50 I love it I don’t regret it same price too
I still hate automatics, and I think people have gotten lazier and thats leads to why most cars in the road are automatics....Maybe the reason why people think getting an automatic sports car is shameful because it seems like your trying to be cool without wanting to learn how to drive it the original way
Richard Veguilla He literally said in the video that just because people choose the CVT doesn’t mean they can’t drive a MT. I got rid of a 2017 GTI Sport 6MT because my SO can’t drive a manual and we have 2 kids so swapping car seats isn’t ideal. Not everyone purchases a car under the same circumstances.
Ashton Miller its an automatic wrx.. thats the thing. Nobody cares if you drive an auto corolla(gti has a great tranny) but pull up in your v6 auto mustang and i will laugh.
@@billbobby1258 yes i know, but the 6mt is the way I see it WAY MORE FUN to swing around the twisty roads then a cvt and the SOUND of the GEARS just going up, up, and down, down its not about specs its all about the EPERIENCE.....btw i do understand that people have different ideas of fun
@@daays3743 well then, thats awesome because you still enjoy ALL the other parts of the car, the engine, the forced induction, the awd, ect, ect and that one thing (being the transmisson) wont stop me from saying that its amazing that people still can enjoy a wrx 👌
Hey man, well said! I've always enjoyed your positive, direct, honest, sincere and patient explanations on the CVT. I've had mine for almost 4 years now, only stage 1 ecu tune. Very nice video! I appreciate your detailed videos on the CVT, you have been a great help for the CVT community. Cheers.
So educational. I just picked up a 2023 WRX and appreciate all the information in this video. Thanks!
I think its so silly when people judge what other people have for a transmission. If you want a manual get a manual, why you gotta bash others who dont want the same??
Yeah it is childish. Like how children fight over their favourite colour being the better one.
@Eggs Chilli cvt can easily outperform most transmissions at the moment, its just that no one decides to put the effort into developing them because customers complain about save the manuals/ cvts are trash. Formula 1 banned them, and if they are configured/made right it can keep you in the boost/power band the longest. That being said, at the current moment, yeah cvts could use an upgrade, at the moment per se
@@azhule4041 agreed, I hope in the near future we see some even better CVTs. They have a lot of potential
What I like about CVTs is that when accelerating, you can make it accelerate at exactly pace you want, with just the amount of throttle you give.
When you're simply cruising, the revs go to near idle helping with fuel economy and being very smooth.
Main thing with CVTs is that you should NOT launch the crap out it at standstill at every stop light. As long as you're moving you can do almost whatever you want with the transmission.
assuming my ass is large, is the larger problem bub
I recently purchased my 2019 WRX CVT mainly because of your video explaining how it actually works. I will definitely have questions for you in the future when the car arrives. Keep doing what you’re doing!
Did you get one because you cant drive manual??? I'm tier between buying a car infant drive Nd or just spending the extra few thousands for something I can
Blast Processing I actually test drove the manual WRX first and compared to other manual car I drove, it definitely didn’t feel as nice (Compared to Veloster N and Civic Type-R). The CVT however was much better than I expected. If you have the fund, I’d recommend getting another manual car unless you absolutely need a good AWD daily driver.
fr33x The WRX is at its best if you get the manual not the stupid Jetco CVT, The CVT makes the car slower, makes it a little heavier, and you get worse gas mileage
hereitcomes Thing is, have you actually driven both to actually make that judgement or just base it on other’s opinions? I am sure everyone has their own preference when it comes to car, that’s why there are so many varieties of cars to pick from.
All I am saying is, this CVT feels great, and shouldn’t be scratched off the list simply as a result of stigma towards CVT. (CVT done correctly was actually banned from races from the past due to it being too efficient)
fr33x Just cause I haven’t drove a slower WRX with the CVT doesn’t make my argument flawed, now if you think that the CVT transmission that is found in the WRX “feels good” because of the fake eight speed imitation which is pathetic then ,I bet you’re someone who likes what Lexus, BMW and more car manufacturers have been doing with fake exhaust sounds through the speakers......... now your argument with CVT’S being efficient some cars with CVT‘s are efficient example the Toyota Prius , that might be more suited for you.
I own a 2003 Subaru WRX and have 450,000 miles on it. If you take care of your car especially this one it will last you a long time.
Ben Yebernetsky holy shit 450k that’s impressive
Yeah the key to keeping it going this long has been don’t park it just keep it running. I just had to replace the stock turbo because the waste gate had been cooked open because I had an oil leak that killed to coil packs... but the car was still running... however the raw fuel getting pumped into the exhaust super heated TS and burnt up the turbo waste gate and packed it with carbon buildup. That’s the first major component that needed replacing other than the AC compressor.
Do your own oil changes and fill up with the best gas you have. 91 is fine though.
Bro a car usually lasts 300k miles but 450k are u serious???
Jeez thats 28k miles a year. Awesome but do you essentially live in your car?
I buy a Mk7 GTI DSG and feel no obligation to share my opinion to those brain dead “manual is a real man” people why I chose it over manual, it is simply my car, my choice. If you get a Fiat Multipla and love the hell out of it I would still respect your choice and prefer you over some guy who drive a car he don’t even like just to show off to people. Remember in the end of the day it is what makes you happy, don’t live for others. Love your video man 💕
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I bought a 16’ wrx cvt and I watched your videos before buying, still watch them after buying great content. Just did my first launch control and man it was quickest way to 60 for sure
I Just bought the 2019 Subaru WRX CVT and I am really enjoying it☠
I just bought a ‘22 WRX GT. While there is something to be said about “engagement” with a manual car, I know, I own a ‘15 STi as well, the CVT in the ‘22 is great.
I own a 22 GT as well and completely agree. That car is a blast to drive.
Just ordered a 24 VB GT. I'm currently developing a mod plan focused on reliability and cosmetics, waiting on warranty to be over for power. Thinking 18/9.5 wheels, titanium cat back, AOS, metal bypass valve, and a cold air intake; definitely getting a dash cam to keep myself safe. This is the first car I've bought that was truly my own since I enlisted, retirement gift for myself.
@@murmsuniversalrobotics3938 I’m a little over a year out before I can, but I’m looking forward to upping the HP a little bit. The guy at the place that’ll do the mods says the CVT should handle 300, 310 HP without a problem. I already know the motor is more than capable. This thing is going to end up every bit as quick as the STi. I love this car. Enjoy yours!
@@jimmyglea power is cool, 300/300 is the goal, but I'm buying this car for it's drivability and handling. I did a lot of executive protection in the Army and have gone through a bunch of driving schools to include O'Neal rally, looking to make a reasonably fast car that can drive over most terrain. I'm not sure lifting a GT works with the adaptive suspension, so vehicle height might be a tire decision. I'm going back to school for automotive engineering, figured I'd make cars my passion while I figure out who the hell I am lol
As a manual WRX driver, here's my opinion. It comes down to this; if this is going to be a tuning platform, and you're looking for a more visceral driving experience with a more reliable transmission and better performance off the bat, you should buy the manual. This six speed is SMOOTH, easy to drive, an absolute blast, and reliable. Subaru CVTs just aren't the most reliable and are very expensive to repair. However, if you're going to baby the drivetrain, and you're driving in heavy traffic, or just want a more laid-back experience, CVT is a great option. I drive in traffic occasionally and my clutch foot doesn't tire, but with my mods, my car does NOT like to go under 10mph in first gear, so I could absolutely see why someone would want the CVT if that's their daily drive. It's all up to you. Don't let so-called gearheads beat you down for buying a CVT.
@@akqjtn Thanks for your response! I too get tired of ricers hearing the letters "CVT" and scoffing immediately. It's all about what the buyer wants!
Thanks for being willing to start CVT conversations. I sincerely enjoy the enthusiasts that come away with a new perspective. :)
I understand those who prefer a manual, all good wishes to them. I have spent the last 50 years riding Motorcycles, and Driving both manual and auto vehicles for different reasons. I owned an Outback with CVT and disliked it, the same with an XV. I also had VW Jetta with the GTi motor and a DCT box which was awesome. However, I recently decided to buy a new WRX and against my own feelings decided on the CVT. Well, I have made the right choice…….this thing is a real hoot in the twisty mountain roads I most enjoy - point and shoot - Haven’t got time for a bloody gear stick as I am too busy enjoying the ride and working the steering wheel which takes both hands at my age 🤓. I guess I would be even happier with a DCT but at what cost? Anyway - so far I have no complaints and am enjoying my new WRX Premium with CVT. 😎
I think you are partially correct on why there are fake shifts. I believe they did that because cvts whine up and stay at rpms consistently which can get very annoying. So they "shift" it to change engine frequency to help with NVH. Look at the interiors of the newest subarus, they are definitely trying to do what buick does which is offering budget luxury.
Those CVTs are fast I have a Nissan Altima with 288.000 miles CVT has never bad a problem
Like your answer to that question. I share my car and drove in Seattle for 3 years with a standard, never gonna do that again. I fell back in love with automatic but still love the wrx
Love the video very educational on WRX CVT👍🏼❤️
I just ordered a 2022 WRX cvt. No hesitation.
I got a 06 wrx with 165k on it making 327whp been super reliable. Also got to take in account in how u drive ur car.
Do you drive it as a daily?
@@TillTheThrill19 I use too not anymore got a Crosstrek as a daily cuz of gas lol.
@@victorrubio9085 I hear you, I really want to buy this car, might drive it all year for a couple seasons being I live in Toronto Canada and this thing would be a monster for the winter, but I think a winter beater would be nice so I can preserve the WRX
@@TillTheThrill19 true. In the future I'ma put a 2" lift spacer ND wheels ND off road tires. I seen couple of them they look pretty badass 👌.
Subaru added the "simulated" gears for the same reasons Apple added the "simulated" button push for a non-button that doesn't move. Humans love the tactile sensations of things.
You are 100 percent correct
The amount of haters in your comment section are pathetic lmao everyone has their own opinions and preferences in buying their OWN vehicle. Here on the island of Oahu in Hawaii, we have the WORST traffic in the country! Nobody drives manual anymore over here because of it. Not to mention our speed limit averages 55 on the freeway. I have 2 boys and wanted a more powerful car to drive while still being a sporty sedan. Not to mention my wife doesn't drive manual either so we can share the car if need be. Everything you explained in your videos are perfect and on spot. You just earned a sub brother, keep doing what you do and Mahalo from Hawaii.
Owned a evo 9. 10 years as my daily.
Done with a manual and beltway traffic. But I want the power.
I’m quite interested to see how a CVT WRX handles. The only thing I hate about the CVT WRX is that it gets worse fuel economy than the manual.
And its a fucking altima transmission... so wack. Not even a dual clutch!
Shifting is feeling that people used to. I my point of view, it isn’t necessary. CVT is ideal. What I worry is it’s durability.
Durability really depends on how you drive it.
Same concerns here, cvt fake gears they do their jobs😂😂 but will the transmission last decent amount of time and won't become a money pit?🤔🤔
Janghoon Sun it will if you take care of it bud... 👏🏻👍🏻
Buy a fckin toyota
People do actually get over 200k miles out of their CVTs just with proper maintenance. Don't skimp on maintenance. Keep the CVT oil fresh.
An automatic transmission is a necessity for me because of stop-and-go rush hour traffic. Also, I have Subaru’s EyeSight with my CVT Impreza. On you get use to the EyeSight, you won’t like driving without it.
I feel like so many people hate on CVTs because they're afraid to admit that a CVT is the most efficient transmission design in terms of power delivery. A 3 pedal manual, in 2019, is literally the SLOWEST type of transmission as has been documented by pretty much everyone. Of course, that's not really the point (I own a Focus ST with a 6MT). As long as you can preselect your gear ratios (paddles) so that you are in the powerband, the only compromise with a CVT is from an emotional perspective. CVTs are faster and easier to drive when you compare the same car with two transmissions; an unfortunate fact of life for some, but not you and not me.
Agreed. Finally someone who understands why companies use them!
I feel like Subaru could have picked a better automatic transmission to put into the wrx. Plenty of other companies used the zf 8 speed in their sports cars and they are fantastic. Dual clutch transmissions are too expensive, need way more maintenance, and clutch packs wear out faster than a torque converter.
My brother bought a 2015 wrx cvt brand new and hasn’t had any problems that I’m aware of. He also doesn’t drive the car aggressively. He picked it because he never learned how to drive a manual and didn’t want to do so on a $30,000 dollar car. I see where these cvt wrx’s come into play, but personally decided to get a manual in my 2019 wrx. If Subaru had gone with a traditional automatic I may have considered it because I sit in a lot of traffic. I just couldn’t bring myself to buy a cvt.
Serenity in silence My 2016 TLX V6 has the ZF9 and it’s absolute trash. Is the 8 speed better?
subaru can't bolt on a transmission from another manufacturer to their engine. The front and center diffs and front driveshafts are integrated into the transmission. They have to do the R&D themselves, which they won't do to put in 1 single low-volume car, or add in a transfer case and completely throw the "Symmetrical" part of their awd out the window on the WRX, which they also won't do.
I own a 2017 WRX CVT and i can say that next year I will be trading it in for an STI. This car is so much fun to drive don't get me wrong. Its more a personal preference. After looking at the cost of upgrading for hp it does not seem worth it. Especially the torque converter.......$2k. CVT COOLER IS A MUST if you plan on doing anything to the car. I put a cold air intake in with a cobb tune and the oil has reached 225 degrees at one point. I can either put a cvt cooler to ensure safety or keep stock for resale value.
Boost & Shutter I remember the video of you driving the STI and liked it alot. You plan on upgrading in the future? I just wish our CVT's could take alot of torque like other DC autos
have you traded it in yet?
I agree with the reason Subaru choosing CVT over DCT. Makes absolute financial sense in doing so. It is more so of a copy paste method in a sense. Do one thing really well, and continue to make slight improvements over time. I do say, the new EV looks horrendous though.
Great video, thank you for this.
I’d have to buy the auto. So thanks for making the video.
The CVT discussion will be interesting....when we discuss about the next-gen STI (which is rumored to have a hybrid electric motor). The ICE - electric motor combo *might* allow integration of a CVT for a next gen STI.
blackcyborg009 as the next sti can can auto ?
@@akqjtn Interesting.
As for the next-gen STI, Subaru would obviously need to retire the EJ series engine for sure. I predict that a combination of FA/FB engine with electric motor would be necessary....in order for a future STI to be sold in Europe (or in any territory that requires Euro 6D/WLTP/RDE II emission law)
“To get into higher rpms in a sporty way” ? Whaaaaaat who sent this guy ?
Great straight forward no nonsense info,love this channel
you do make sense sir love it👍 keep being real brother.
Excellent Commentary 😎
That's why I like Hyundai bc they use dual clucth and not CVT however Subarus do make great cars
... And those Hyundais can be tricky in low speed situations. This cvt does better in low speed, minimal throttle applications.
For my wife That is why maybe I buy with automatic trasmision ....
300hp in this car is perfect.
Thx for putting this video together. I test drove drove a 16 limited cvt and honestly it wasn't that bad. Shoot, Porsche is moving away from manuals. It's amazing how the internet runs around with blinders on. I am for most a 3 pedal guy, but my wife isnt. The CVT in the WRX would allow each of us to drive the car and if I want to bang "gears" with the paddles or let the car do its thing.
Not everyone lives on a racetrack and here in SW OH, these roads can be rather crappy and congested at times. Cheers.
Excellent video. I currently drive the WRX CVT. I've only done just over 1000km. At 1K the Subaru dealer wants the car back for a free service just to check over the engine etc. At this point I had them change the oil, which I paid a small amount for. The dealer said they flush out the old oil when doing a oil change so this is what they did. I did notice the engine sounded different for a short time after picking it up so I'm sure they did the flush. Make no mistake, this is definitely a performance vehicle. They have mellowed the shape somewhat but rest assured this thing will eat your licence for breakfast if you let it. Don't let anyone tell you this is not a sports car, Im willing to say this will be all the speed and handling you will ever need and you can drive it around like a non sport sedan most of the time. Perfect.
Great video, and really well said! I took a lot of shit from people when I bought a GTI with the DSG and felt like I was always justifying the choice. I can't to see what the 2021 WRX is going to bring and will definitely consider the CVT when I buy.
Yo thanks man you are the man
What are options for aftermarket radiators for the CVT wrx? It seems they are all manual
A lot of people say tha the Subaru cvt has a lot of transmission problems
I owned mine for 2yrs now and no problems at all thus far .
Great video. thank you
I’m thinking about getting a wrx cvt for a daily and its a pretty good deal. The reason why its a good deal is because its a lemon. The car had the shortblock, ecm and cams replaced. Any advice?
Do you know any Screens I can install on the 2017 WRX to get Apple CarPlay?
Any links where I can get a 2019 WRX tuned? I’m in Australia. Ty
I love my 18 LTD CVT, and so does everyone that I have allowed to drive it. I would buy it again in a heartbeat. It is bone stock and I plan to keep it that way. I still havent launched it. Great video as always! My question is, does the cars computer log if it has been launched?
launched my slow ass 2019 impreza days after i got it. won't be doing it much again though.
I wanted to buy a Suburu but it seemed a little weak but I’m gonna test drive another one this weekend
Much love brotha, no hate, as I owned a 2012 Impreza 2.0i CVT and went to a 2018 WRX MT. It’s multitude of reasons for one over the other.
My only correction i want to make is that the WRX isn’t a “Sports Car”. It’s a “Performance Sedan”. Yes it can also be called a “Sport Sedan” because it has attributes similar to that of a sports car, but by definition the WRX and STI platform isn’t a sports car. That’s it:) keep up the good work.
They should just use the same automatic transmission that’s in the brz
Would be awesome but i think it wouldn't be able to take the power maybe?
@@littletickedoff2640 I think it will be able to take it. BRZ has less power than the WRX. It should be able to handle it easily.
They can't. The center and front diff's are integrated into subaru's transmissions. The BRZ being rear-wheel drive is the only reason it's able to use the transmission it has.
Your off on your pricing. It only cost about 8.5k to build a wrx and about 9k for an sti. This includes all parts, labor and fuel cost to get parts to the plant. This also figures the development cost and is why car company's push for high quantities of sales.
I Have a 22 wrx base with CVT, the only mod i did and will do are my Nameless axelbacks mufllers. What is your experience on add-on axlebacks and manufacturer warranty.
Thanks for your great content 👍🏼
Went to the Showroom today to check out the Car... Absolutely in love with it... Hopefully I can figure out the finance asap... And get this Baby... !!! 👻👻👻 Unfortunately they dun provide test rides.. so I still dun know how does it feel to drive... And have u made a video where u launch the car... ???
Anything to think about before doing a muffler delete on a CVT?
no, it doesnt affect anything.
@@thercscaler Correct, unless you count your neighbors. ;)
Have you experience the issue when the rev is low and you suddenly give a lot of throttle, the engine just revs up but it felt like not much power is put to wheels? I've noticed this on hotter days and driving up hill.
Shoulda got the manual. Cvt wrx is boo boo.
Great Video! also were you driving in lancaster?
Longterm longevity?? Thinking about getting a WRX
ejfgjbcbsajk Wrxs are reliable asf and last a long time if you take care of it bud.
So funny so many people judging what transmission other people is driving.
Thanks for the video!
I think I saw somewhere that you bought a WRX STI? Do you still have the CVT WRX? Just curious. Thanks
hi every time a wheel lost traction VDC takes over, I get wheel spin even on dry surface and vdc keep braking and slow the car down it’s annoying......is this normal on this car?
this happens a long has one wheel is slightly rised......then the vdc kick in spinning my wheel
They need a dsg
What can you use to monitor the Cvt temp? Which odb or app.
sport sharp mode in cvt, it doesnt function as cvt but it will let me manually use paddle shift or it automatically shift for me?
I'm kinda scared going forward with this car. With the recall on the cvt transmission on the 15' and 16' leads me to believe that something down the road will go wrong. Second is the carbon buildup in the engine and I'm seeing multiple complaints about turbo leaks and carbon buildup up I hope the 19's fix those issues
@@akqjtn I definitely agree. My only concern is driving in snow I'm gonna be moving from CA to Ohio and I'm not sure how well my Corolla will handle it lol when I do decide to pull the trigger I don't plan on doing anything mods just "spirited driving"
Is it bad to be in sports mode all the time ? Ive always been curios on how that affects CVT
Brompton Lawyer heating up a cvt will kill it. If your always revving out your car, it’s likely it will go out sooner. Unless your changing your transmission fluid every 30k miles.
Ctv is gonna fail. And it cost more as an option. And it's non repairable. Why not a regular automatic transmission?
How's the CVT still running now for you? Thinking of getting a 2015
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Do you still have ur wrx cvt. How has the trans held up
I do not, I traded it in for an STI. That said at trade-in the transmission was solid.
I learned to drive on a manual transmission. Having a manual isn’t that big of a deal to me anymore.
Subaru wrxs and stis need to drop the CVT for a DCT but manual is best
You should do a series of videos on autocross =)
About to get a 2020 Subaru wrx limited cvt in Houston it’s not worth driving a manual lol
Find it funny when people bitch about people who drive a auto, don't they know most new super car's are auto/dual clutch, the Aventador has a auto-manual transmission.
Recommended to feed this Premium Gas? Just bought an '18 CVT Limited WRX.
... Yes. Higher octane delays fuel detination so the fuel ignites when the car wants it to. If the car senses pre-detination, it will pull timing (to protect itself). Pulling timing will result in reduce overall hp.
Is this the same as honda city cvt?
I'm interested in the 2020 WRX which after watching many videos has brought me to your channel. I have an off topic question for you if you wouldn't mind. My wife has a 2017 Forester and we've had problems finding cell phone holder's for her vent which looks very similar to yours in the WRX. Just wondering what your using here . Thanks!
@@akqjtn That might work but it looked like what you were using in the video was some sort of clip mount for the vent. I haven't found one yet that worked very well and thought your vent set up in the WRX looks a lot like her Forester. Thanks for your time, I really enjoy watching your ride along vlogs. 👍
I own an 2019 wrx cvt I wanna go stage 2! I know I need the cvt cooler but what about a torque converter?
Almighty_ Bf109k6 i was at stage 2 with mine. Cvt cooler definitely helps , but upgraded torque converter is not necessary at that point
The CVT is a huge issue because CVT's don't belong in any car that isn't meant to be a commuter. Only reason Subaru doesn't have an traditional "automatic" because they save money by just investing and developing the CVT. They don't make enough money to carry both a traditional automatic and CVT alongside each other. Subaru customers could care less about a CVT because all they want is the symmetrical AWD.
The only reason I hate on the CVT WRX because it doesn't drive like an "automatic WRX" should. Enthusiast know it , Subaru customers don't. To each their own, but a real sports/rally car has a real auto/dual clutch or a manual, not a commuter transmission.
Wtf are you talking about. There are no automatic WRX besides CVT, All other WRX's are manual. Get your facts right.
Please lol. I was stating if this current gen had a real "automatic". And yes there are automatic WRX's look at the two gens previous to this gen. @@441meatloaf
@@guantai69 Oh thats what you mean. The only auto WRX i could find on google search was the STI A-line in 2009, but that car setup was like a DCT with paddle shifters.
Subaru hasn't adopted DCT yet, but i doubt that will change.
@@guantai69 Second CVT isn't the really the weak link in the transmission, its usually the torque converter. Hence performance models generally have a better tuned version of torque converter rather than your typical economy commuter, which isn't built for launching.
If you have a tuned car and bring it back to factor before bringing it to the dealership for a warranty claim, can they tell if the car was tuned?
They told me they can when I test drove the WRX yesterday
Most dealers can. Mines could.
Newer cars have on- board computer that records history of any changes such as engine mapping.
I was going to buy a wrx with a cvt reason why my wife can’t drive stick I test drove one I hate and I would have to explain to people why I got a wrx with a cvt lol so I just got a 14 Infiniti Q50 I love it same price
If Civic Type R comes with an automatic I would go for it. Otherwise only this seems to be my option.
damm, i didn't even the WRX came in an auto
They've had them since 2002 or veven earlier
What do you think about that new cvt in the new corolla with the an actual first gear for launching? I hear the first batch had some recalls, but I hear it’s the best cvt.
Can I use a Blow off Valve in these cars? I'd like to hear that Turbo.
Why get an auto?
"none of ur business"
Too much traffic is an excuse, as someone who drives manual in traffic all the time in jersey, it's second nature, u don't even think about it
It's not for everyone however. Majority of people spending over $30k want some convenience to come with the car.
Sales of automatics allow manufacturers to keep the manuals up. They wouldn't be making automatics if the public wasn't interested.
Has anyone tried to beef up the CVT transmission?
From my limited understanding, the CVT isn't the power limiting factor, it's the torque converter. Once the TC goes, it takes the CVT with it. There are a few beefed up TCs out there, but haven't seen definitive power improvements with them.
It's exactly how he said it. Most your getting to 300 hp with a modified intake & exhaust. It will give a 10% acceleration. Look up the WRX S4 it's a cvt in 🇯🇵 it looks 😎
Johnny Cabral bruh did you really just say you gain 40 hp from an intake and exhaust?
@@brandonr2188 Intake, exhaust and a tune will easily get you 40 horsepower with these turbo motors. Just a tune gets you almost 30.
Peter Borak you even said it yourself, the tune is everything. Its not exactly cheap get your car tuned.
Subaru needs to get rid of cvts and go dct
all transmissions cvt only have a single change the company that makes the car makes us believe that the car has 6 speed automatic and it is a lie that you put a failure in the ecu that changes to certain RPM but all the transmission cvt has only 1 change and to take better care of your engine use pump 91 or 93 always and the transmission cvt is not good can not stand or 100,000 miles you can be sure if you put a oil cooler can hold a little more
Your comment is not only confusing, but it doesn't even express your actual point. You mixed multiple things into the same sentence.
The actual point is the cvt transmissions It's a garbage 🗑 💯
They can go over 200,000 miles if you keep up with oil changes and treat the car properly. Don't skimp on maintenance.
Turbo cvt lmao. Awd rally cvt lmao. Dual clutch for
Dudes getting very emotional about the whole cvt/manual thing lmao but I suppose for the younger kids it needs to be said it’s not a big deal lol
I was going to buy a wrx with a cvt reason why my wife can’t drive stick I test drove one I hate and I would have to explain to people why I got a wrx with a cvt lol so I just got a 14 Infiniti Q50 I love it I don’t regret it same price too
I still hate automatics, and I think people have gotten lazier and thats leads to why most cars in the road are automatics....Maybe the reason why people think getting an automatic sports car is shameful because it seems like your trying to be cool without wanting to learn how to drive it the original way
Richard Veguilla He literally said in the video that just because people choose the CVT doesn’t mean they can’t drive a MT. I got rid of a 2017 GTI Sport 6MT because my SO can’t drive a manual and we have 2 kids so swapping car seats isn’t ideal. Not everyone purchases a car under the same circumstances.
Ashton Miller its an automatic wrx.. thats the thing. Nobody cares if you drive an auto corolla(gti has a great tranny) but pull up in your v6 auto mustang and i will laugh.
@@brandonr2188 go ahead laugh if it makes you feel better. Good for you. 🤣
They should just use Toyota transmission
if your watching this video, do yourself a favor and just buy the manual. this car with a cvt is so so wrong.
A slush box...
I understand why you would get it.........BUT i can still say the SVT is dog shit when compared to the 6-speed
cheese burger why’s that? The CVT* is faster than the 6mt
@@billbobby1258 yes i know, but the 6mt is the way I see it WAY MORE FUN to swing around the twisty roads then a cvt and the SOUND of the GEARS just going up, up, and down, down its not about specs its all about the EPERIENCE.....btw i do understand that people have different ideas of fun
S# with paddles was a blast on my 2015 FXT on backroads and hills.
cause it is hella of a lot Cheep
@@daays3743 well then, thats awesome because you still enjoy ALL the other parts of the car, the engine, the forced induction, the awd, ect, ect and that one thing (being the transmisson) wont stop me from saying that its amazing that people still can enjoy a wrx 👌