Martin Li was a huge standout for me this time. Mr. negative was a lot of fun in the first game, but where they took Li really elevated that character for me
When it gave me control of Venom, I immediately handed the controller to my 7 year old son who is a massive venom fan. Kid smiled ear to ear the entire segment. So awesome
One little thing: I really loved Tombstone's character, he felt so wholesome. He even shakes hands with Peter after they save him and it made my heart smile!
What this game did with its villans is what Ive always dreamed a Batman story would do , Bruce and his rule of no killing wiuld make much more sense if we saw his villans getting reformed.
I liked the redemption, but I had just been playing spiderman one where I watched him put his foot through someone's skull. No idea how he's free so soon after all that
I thought it was a bit weird tbh - I wouldn't trust a single word knowing that the alien symbiote has the incentive just manipulate the host into doing/saying anything it needs to to prolong its survival
No one talks about the helping Howard side mission. It made me cry and is my favourite side mission. Its so beautifully done with the song playing out in the background whilst you travel with the flock to the emotional connection set by Howard. Executed perfectly
I cried my ass off too man! The music was perfect and emotional connection to Howard before in the 1st game, and this side mission was just awesome! Cried so hard on my way across the river.
Rent is always a thing for Spider-Man. However, I thought it was ridiculous that May had mortgaged her home to finance a business she didn’t own when the real owner was a deca-millionaire.
Making Venom a playable character in game with a unique skills and everything for just a couple of moment of gameplay is just insane to think about. I appreciate more the effort Insomniac put to this game! *Still waiting for a patch where we can customized the color of symbiote abilities*
@@FireDarylMorey The story was short but good. I just think the Symbiote arc was rushed. And the last act should have been a few more hours I have a few more complaints but that's it. I also miss how the city felt more alive last game. That's prob just me tho, and some features too
I agree! He totally stole the show every second he was on screen! Honestly high praise to everyone involved in the game because the voice actors for this game are all top notch! I think it was the writing and animation that elevated his vocal performance to that degree. Not to deny his talent at all! It’s just that you can tell all the departments were working toward a shared goal and everyone gave it their all!
A few more would have been nice. But I felt he definitely played his role in the grand conflict well. His final moments were definitely pretty unexpected. But he was used very well to convey what a threat Venom actually was.
I think it’s really interesting how they are setting up Norman. By keeping Harry alive, I can definitely see Norman being driven by hope far more compelling than him being driven by revenge.
@@TheWrightWayPlaysno Harry is already venom wouldn't make sense to make him hobgoblin anyway and plus the original hob goblin has no relation to the Osborne and I feel like that's the direction they should go with hobgoblin save him to be a villain for miles....Peter has green goblin give hob goblin to miles especially since Peter has a more personal connection to grew as apposed to hob who is just another villain that Spidey has to stop mils is the second spider-man and hob goblin is the second goblin it work
adding onto the peter miles relationship, i love how they both treat it like they’re coworkers lol miles showing up to a stakeout and peter going “hey man, glad you could make it” was adorable to me lol
The moments in this game were spectacular! From Yuri, to Scream, the anti-venom suit, to Peter vs Miles this game just kept cracking the hype nob up as a Spider-Man fan.
Also how Mj isnt just a model thats in distress.. she actually can do something...they even showed how shes ride or die jumping in front of peter when venom attacked in the kitchen when peter has the op powers!
This game would’ve been a 10/10 if it wasn’t for the MJ missions. They absolutely sucked. They sucked in spider-man 1 and they suck in this game too. Scream was awesome af but the forced stealth MJ missions were bad. And what was up with that ending? Another forced MJ mission where the game turns to a third person shooter. I’m tryna play as spider man. Not MJ lol
@@sourpatchkillathat's her character.... She is not supposed to be able to defeat skilled hunters but sneaking up on them... and one shoting them when the Spider-Men take dozens of hits to beat them... If she can hunt hunters and kill symbiotes like she is Jill Valentine then what is the point of Spider-Man? Does she have gun experience? More than hunters that trained their entire life? Does she have CIA sneaking experience? More than hunters that are shown to.... Know how to hunt?!?
@goodfellas1001 it's a video game about people in a super hero universe...also different universes...this mj isn't trash or whatever you want her to be... this mj can actually do something...sorry that spiderman dosent use weapons or motorcycles in this game. Mj can be alot of things...sorry she's not what you want her to be...😅
I really like that they did Scream. Symbiote Peter did some extremely traumatizing shit to MJ that they don't really debrief about but with Scream putting him through something similar it feels more like MJ can see what that situation was like for Peter and not feel as scared of him or resentful for it
That mission was so messed up specially the finishers with guys being snapped in half also the ending of the mission, i was not expecting it to go down like that, btw i loved every moment of it, hopefully insomniac can make either a venom spinoff (there is the spiderverse) or a hulk game
I’m waiting for that Carnage DLC. I loved the gradual reveal of Cletus Kasady as “the flame”. When I first saw him in the 2nd mission I even kind of thought he looked like him but was thinking they’d be going a different route. Then my jaw dropped when he takes that symbiote and it turned red… good stuff.
One thing you didn't mention that got me excited, teasing Chameleon. A villain that's often overlooked but really has a lot of potential imo, especially the way they set him up by letting you investigate his apartment.
Yesssss. Jake's talked about how he would love Insomniac to do Chameleon to be done in some Q&A videos in the past and I was dying to hear his thoughts and excitement about it here. Hopefully in a future video he'll talk about it more. Once I finished that side mission my first thought was yeah I'm pretty sure Jake will be hype about this lol.
When Pete says “hey man, glad you could make it” at the first raft mission, I can’t explain it but that line hit different. It felt like he was talking to me in a crazy way. Between the VA’s and the cinematic’s, i felt more immersed in this game than any other game in a long time
Yeah not gonna lie the trailer that showed Peter standing by Mays grave and him and miles fighting venom in the city didn’t even happen. Or the concept art of Miles and Peter fighting venom in the city at night. Missed opportunity.
@@UltimodestructicoI think a lot of stuff was cut for time. I think Sony really was trying to push this out. Miles morales came out in 2020 and this came out now 3 years later but the original Spider-Man on PS4 was a 6-7 year dev cycle. Where as this was probability half of that. And they developed a side game in between. I think with the next one we probably won’t see till the end of the ps5 or ps6. Cause Wolverine is probably a 2025-2026 game
As a die hard Symbiote fan this game did everything for me. So many sequences were packed in this game that I never imagined they'd do. Including some newer aspects from recent Venom runs that really showed how much Insomniac is committed to the Spider-Man mythology and giving it the love and respect it's earned over the decades of storytelling.
I just wish they had the balls to actually explain it. But unfortunately, they went the route wos did by expecting you to understand the lore, even though the lore they are using is a blend of 2 seperate continuties of venom which is confusing to me, I also havent read a lot of the new venom stuff so its really hard to follow
My only problem with the symbiote thing is that it’s nature and motives were never fully explained. We could speculate all day long about everything it did but it is never made clear. Why is it attracted to Peter specifically from first contact? Why did it not affect Harry as agent venom? Does it have goals of its own or does it aspire to achieve its host’s goals? Was it really using Harry to get to Pete or something or did it actually form a bond with Harry and cared about him? I’m not much into comics so I had a lot of unanswered questions which felt frustrating. Like everything happened for no reason.
Amazing analysis man. You made an excellent point about Peter's look of pride when he sees Miles. As a guy who lost his own mentor figure early on and had to figure out being Spider-Man on his own way, I think he gets a sense of pride and accomplishment in himself as he sees how well Miles is turning out. I think this is one of the most positive representations of brotherhood and mentorship in gaming and it's pretty funny that we get relatively so little of it as they spend most of the game separated. One thing though - I think it's important to note that Miles does not forgive Martin Li, he explicitly states that he can never forgive him but his inspiration in Pete's belief in giving villains second chances gives him the mental strength to put aside his own conflicting emotions and allow Martin to help. I think this comes full circle when Pete himself tells Miles how surprised he is in how Miles "rehabilitated his greatest enemy" when he himself inspired Miles to do this.
I know a lot of people say they wish it was longer, and from one perspective, I agree, but I very much appreciate that they made a tight, solid story, with very little fluff or filler. Especially with how many studios seem to he looking for the "forever game" live service model,or trying to make a 200 hour game. Its very nice to see a developer respect my time and attention. Instead of making me hunt down 500 checklist items for a golden poop, it gave me a few thibgs to hunt, and asatisfying easter egg to conclude the hunt. Speaking of that easter egg, I REALLY liked the spider-verse suit animations. It was the chef's kiss on top of an already amazing game.
I was exhausted just watching the full playthtough 😂😅 There were so many epic mic drop moments! It reminded me of how Uncharted 2 did epic huge story missions on PS3.
I was with you, I loved the mission with Harry as Agent Venom and the whole theme here of redeeming all these super villains was great. But it turning into like a Web of Shadows sequel was my absolute favorite part, I had a big dumb grin when I saw the city start to get overrun cause that was like my favorite Spider-Man thing as a kid
The range of Insomniac's spiderman is crazy and I love it! They go from big spectacles like kraven hunting super-folks in broad daylight, to sweet little moments like helping Howard or that one old man find his granddaughter
The animation work in Spiderman 2 is stunning. The sheer amount of extremely high quality animation and blending seamlessly with gameplay is state of the art.
Fucking loved that ending. Martin Li being redeemed as a good dude, keeping the symbiote powers, MJ and scream, the depth of the relationships, and the insane depth of the gameplay despite feeling easier to manage. What a great game. Easily my game of the year
As someone who’s loved Mysterio since I was a kid I was floored to see them to such justice to the character. His boss battle was one of my favorites in the game. Happy he wasn’t sidelined
@@henry7486 I kinda just wished that they retained a typical twist and that Quentin himself was actually the bad guy. It would’ve packed more of a punch
The minute Scream turned up, I had to pause the game and just take a second to comprehend how much insomniac were taking from the comics. I'm kind of new to the deeper comic book lore but seeing nice little references I understood was such a cool feeling
I think my only complaint with mj turning into scream is why did mj turn into scream of all things? Wouldnt she just be turned into a normal symbiote? And if Venom can make iconic symbiotes appear out of nowhere, then where tf is everybody else?😂
@@jahzelortiz1123well this is Venom we’re talking about…he’s all about fuckin with Peter’s head. He knows everything about Peter so he’s not going to turn MJ into a run-of-the-mill symbiote…he’s gonna put some oomph into it. It’s one of the reasons Venom is one of my all-time favorite villians. He plays some real mind games with Peter and it’s tragically spectacular.
@@Wheeliam_Ironside See i’d be down with that too, but what confuses me is why every single other symbiote doesnt follow suit with what MJ turned into. Like she turns into Scream with the white eyes and long tendril hair but like everybody else is pretty similar. Like why didnt MJ have the spiral instead? It’s not too much of a big thing but I feel like some parts of the game they just said fuck it and gave us Scream exactly as she is because we like Scream
@@jahzelortiz1123 but that’s what i’m saying. Those other symbiotes are acting more like a plague where they’re infecting each other spanning out from those seed things as more of an extension of Venom. But with MJ Venom knew what she meant to Peter and spawned a whole new symbiote for the occasion.
I loved that Venom was tied to Knull and being almost an eldritch horror, getting into peoples heads and giving them gross fleshy visions. I do REALLY hope that Venom can be brought back in some capacity expanding more on just the one level he had in a future title (or maybe DLC) And it would be crazy if Silk becomes the third and final character you can play as in the third game. Hopefully its all hands on deck over at Insomniac for the Wolverine game before the third and final game.
I loved how they even teased that Harry might become the goblin. During the start of the end sequence they discuss the game plan and use a DND-like Goblin for Harry. I hope they won't do that though since he already was the villain in this game. (Edit: spelling)
I just wish there was more of Harry in the game, be it hanging with Peter and MJ or as one of the spider pals. The section where it’s available in the game before giving Peter the black suit was too short. Also, super glad they didn’t outright kill Harry since that’d just be too devastating, and I’m hoping Peter’s able to give him Anti-Venom to help treat his disease
Was my most hyped game this year and was blown away. The writing was so good. Got teary eyed during the find my grandpa side quest. Venom and the powers were exactly what I wanted
As a 90s kid that was obsessed with Spider-Man. In particular the McFarlane run and the whole symbiote storyline. All I’ve wanted was to see the symbiote storyline done right. This game was absolutely incredible, a dream come true, and had my jaw on the floor over and over again. I just beat it last night and started my second play through today.
@@dcrawley507Nice! Yeah I wish it had NG+. It’s tough immediately going back in and not having all of my skill tree and gadgets usable lol. Also playing on hardest difficulty..
@@gregorynichols2951Oh dude I own a mint Amazing Spider-Man 300, signed by McFarlane. Bought it when I was like 12 yrs old at a comic shop in Memphis for $60 back in 1997. Spent my allowance money on it because I knew it was first appearance of Venom. Got it signed just a few years ago. Also own a ton of other 80s & 90s Spidey comics including the whole Maximum Carnage run among others. I should probably have them graded because several of them are worth a lot of money but I’d probably never part with them tbh.
Feels like they’re setting up for a Miles Morales 2 with Peter going into “retirement”. Miles will probably have his own villain to deal with there. And the end credit scene is the set up for Spider-Man 3 where Peter has to come back as Spider-Man and deal with Sinister Six 2.0. Not sure where Carnage fits into all of this, but Spidey 2 DLC seems most likely. Either way I absolutely can’t wait to see what they do in the future with this incredible series. Best Spidey content in media by far, besides the comics.
When you see the book in the Crimson Hour cult with their idea of the fire taking over, and it's Carnage attacking, I was so excited to see what they did. The fact that they ended that story with a tease for a future game, is amazing. Does a good job of explaining what will most likely pull Peter out of retirement as well. Also, RIP Howard. Hope he's flying through the city as a pigeon right now.
Grandpa lost on the park bench and Howard’s final pigeon mission made me ugly cry. Truly some of the best side quests insomniac has had in this series so far.
What a game. Insomniac have certainly cemented themselves as a top tier developer over the past 5 years. Can't wait to see what they do with Wolverine.
They better make the Wolverine game much longer! An original origins story to him properly becoming wolverine would be great!! I want a game that has at least 30hrs of story instead of the 8 Spider-Man 2 had...
@@The-Legend-of-P I have pictures up on here showing it is nowhere near 17hrs! People have 100% the game and platinum'd it in around 17hrs. The story was embarrassingly short! Stop spreading misinformation and lies
@@thevoicewithin9845 and I can take a picture showing my plat trophy after 50 hours lmao. People play the game as long as they want. They can either rush the story in a weekend and beat it really quickly, then complain there’s nothing to do, or they can just play the game and enjoy it without rushing. I beat the game in 3-4 days and it’s long enough. 17 hours isn’t a short game my guy. That’s a long time and takes awhile to develop. Do you complain how movies are ONLY 2-3 hours now when it’s probably been in production for 3 years at that point?? 17 hours is 3/4 of a day. That is a long game. I can’t really imagine it being any longer cause they don’t want it to overstay it’s welcome. Rather a short great game that does what it’s supposed to. Then random game thar just keeps dragging. Like Jedi survivor 3rd act that’s a random 10 extra hours
Definitely, he’s my favorite marvel character and his appearance was spoiled for me cause I thought I was safe from the internet after beating the main story lol. Oh well just glad he’s being included finally.
Miles' was underutilized in the story imo but still had so many layers to his arc. He actually didn't forgive Li, he told him he never would but he realized hating him wasn't serving him. I feel like that's even more mature (and realistic) than just forgiving Li.
Norman hating Spiderman at the end when Harry literally survived felt very forced to me. Like they literally stood in a room and said Harry is probably too far gone and you’ll have to kill the host, but spiderman still manages to keep Harry alive in the end, and we’re supposed to believe Norman wants to kill spiderman now??
Norman made spiderman promise he would save Harry. Harry now being on life support isn't exactly Normans idea of 'saved' and will obviously tip him over the edge. Norman could never separate Harry and Venom, they were both always Harry. Harry only has brain functionality. Spiderman technically broke his promise.
I was thinking "oh wow this Norman is gonna feel like he owes spiderman because he knows that everyone else said harry was gone..." only for him to act like he witnessed a completely different ending than i did.
@@SiRRAHx The problem is that literally every other person involved told Norman that it completely IMPOSSIBLE to save Harry at all. So now he just looks like a crazy asshole and he lost the sympathy I had for him.
Love how the friendly neighborhood part of the character wasn’t lost despite the raised stakes, there’s still moments like the Howard mission or realm any of the friendly neighbourhood app or Brooklyn visions missions
I feel like there hasnt been a game in a long time that respects the players time like this. Full of story the whole ride and i platinumed it with 28 hours of game time. I expected it to end after the venom kraven fight and make us wait for the next game to wrap up the storyline. Seeing scream, the carnage symbiote and then the King in Black suit, It just kept giving to spiderman and venom fans. I dont think ive ever been this satisfied at the end of a game.
i just loved those small interactions where you can go up to miles/peter after a fight, press triangle for an animation like them giving each other a quick hug or that little pointing meme. very cute, and adds to their dynamic even just a little bit.
The symbiote arc felt rushed for me. Wish the story was longer. Phenomenal game though. Hopefully they add all in all missing features from previous games in future patches.
I AGREE. I honestly could have done without it and just focused on my boy venom. I wanted to see venom be more of a menace to Spider-Man. Same thing about kraven.
And I wish it involved MORE super heroes. It's been established that Avengers, Fantastic 4, and (Likely) x-men exist in this game. Not to mention solo superheroes like Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Matt Murdock (Daredevil) being there as well. Venom Threat can't be more world wide than it is. I know Insomniac probably couldn't get permission, but come on! Every superhero in America must know.
As a spidey fan and grew up watching mostly 90s - early 00s Spider-Man - this was a dream come true. Easily the best superhero game ever and the funnest of its genre.
I would like them to make more boss fights throughout the city. Many boss fights here are just in arenas that don't take advantage of the swinging. I also don't feel sure about the antivenom as a permanent thing. I thought Prter was gonna lose it, but it seems he's keeping it. Carnage is prime DLC material. Overall good game
They also hinted at Iron Fist, because one of the people Miles has to save in a side mission mentions that she works for a company called Rand Industries.
I don't read the comics so when stuff like Scream and Silk were brought up I had to look them up. I appreciate the game made me do that though because so much of that stuff is so cool. Happy that Insomniac is willing to break out of the mainstream to do cool stuff like that and help bring in people like me further into the fandom
Same for me too. I've heard of Silk before but didn't know her real name so when she gets introduced I'm sitting there like wait WHAT? Lol. Still elicited a hype reaction once I googled it. Very exciting to see what Insomniac plans to do with the character.
Kinda surprised you didn’t mention the mysteriums or the Spiderverse easter egg. Great vid Jake, love the positive thoughts all around. I feel the same way about everything as you, but I did enjoy the MJ missions. I thought they improved upon them a lot and it gave. break from the other gameplay. Some people don’t like the side stuff where the gameplay slows down like riding the bike with Harry, the JJJ bike riding one, MJ missions, or Coney Island with the gang but I loved all them and felt they gave a ton of heart and emotion to the game so glad you liked majority of them. Your vids about the game are my favorite I’ve watched. Just positive and shows your love for Spider-man as a whole
Just finished it, there were so many incredible moments. I absolutely adored the game. I think above all else, they NAILED these characters. Kraven, Miles and Mr Negative are standouts as insanely good interpretations. Awesome to be able to experience this game as a lifelong Spidey fan.
I loved the Easter eggs in the game like referring to daredevil at the end of sandman questline and also chameleon was teased as kravens half brother with web of shadows Easter eggs.
Yuri and Peter’s difference in ideologies made for some compelling dialogue. And I’m glad that she pointed out the flaw in Peter in that he’s too willing to save one life at the expense of hundreds.
The moment I saw The Flame's red hair and realized they weren't using his name, I was like, "That's Cletus Cassidy." And they didn't disappoint. In my humble opinion, they made him a little more interesting than other versions of the character.
I genuinely thought he was just gonna be a nameless Symbiote miniboss until I noticed his Symbiote was red. I spent that entire quest line wondering what villain he was a new interpretation of. It should’ve been so obvious beforehand but I’m an idiot apparently lol.
I think giving the character the cult leader style is a nice touch to add to the fact that he's a crazy killer that'll get his way. I can't wait to see how they do his character when he becomes carnage. Carnage is a harsh but very hard to balance character especially if the games are gonna stay T rated. Hopefully they do the character justice.
Nah, you're no idiot. I'm really good at foreseeing stuff like this because I write screenplays for fun and I study writing a lot in my spare time. The one annoying thing about that is it makes it really easy to see where other writers are going long before the writer intends for the audience to know.@@FKDotFitzgerald
I love this game, love the agent venom twist and the fact that he can show up while you are fighting crime, my only complaint is I want more of it, not necessarily a bad thing tho, but feel they haven't found the perfect balance of main action to side quest yet, but love it and excited about everything that they give to us in the future especially new game plus and Wolverine
I feel like they definitely explored Peter and the death of May with the whole symbiote Spiderman story, how letting her die was pushing him to be a stronger Spiderman and find balance
I really loved it. Felt the relationship between the characters felt really fleshed out. Loves the moment at the end when MJ and Peter look so grateful to Miles for Peter to be able to take a breather. Lots of emotion in their faces. Also looking forward to what they do with green goblin
1. Rio is a smokeshow. 2. I honestly think this was my favorite interpretation of Venom. The Harry/Peter connection gave it a lot more emotional gravity than Brock. I also love that the Symbiote is the one pushing the Human element to hurt Spider-Man. Finally, the Symbiote immigrating Harry's mom in his head was soooo well done. 3. Miles's suit at the end was absolutely awesome, though I think I prefer the Red/Black color scheme that you can throw on it. Love this game
This game was truly amazing! I had so many OMG moments playing this game! The side content was really good as a Spider-Man fan from since the 90’s. But stories they carried from the first game in 2018 was great too. The Help Howard mission brought tears to my eyes. Such good writing by Insomniac.
I feel like this story, plus all the side missions are really well written. Like all the character moments and all the growth. Finally getting a Black suit for Peter, and just the boss fights are very unique and fun. Especially the final boss where you’re switching from Peter and Miles constantly. The whole symbiote invasion was so so cool. Really fun game.
This game felt like an answered prayer. I had so much fun playing through this, and I don't know about anyone else but I don't often find myself just being giddy and really enjoying myself when playing games now. Maybe it's the nostalgia, but regardless, this game was so well done top to bottom.
I just finished the game and loved it. But I kinda lost my mind when i started playing as Venom. I was like wait could this be what a Hulk game would feel like?? Such a nice little surprise. Also crazy dad Norman is such a good Green Goblin lead up
Yeah I really liked it too, wasn’t sure on Harry as Venom coming into the game but Insomniac nailed it, it totally worked for me. Eddie Brock could have been interesting but I think Harry worked well plus they had the groundwork on their relationship and Harry’s character from the science stations in the first game to allow them to keep the story tighter. My one issue, and it is SOOO nit picky I know, is the parry mechanic, specifically the colour scheme. Having Red be the parriable attack colour is just maddening to me, the first 2 games trained my brain to hit dodge whenever I see red on the screen, I just couldn’t break that habit the entire 30 hours, just make it blue and have the unblockable attack be red, I get why they did it, you could parry attacks when your spider sense goes red too but it just didn’t work for me. By no means ruined my enjoyment of the game at all but it’s just such a weird choice and it never stopped ruining my combat flow
I’m so glad to know I’m not the only one that really struggled with muscle memory and the parry mechanic! Also yes, venom was absolutely amazing this game. I just wish it were longer cause I feel like they tried to do too much and did not give everything enough time.
Yeah the parry system is pretty crap in this game. Like, you CAN learn how to do it, but it’s not consistent and just sucks and it’s really unnecessary. and breaks up the flow of combat.
Superior Spider-Man for Spidey 3? But Peter becoming evil again is a tired plot now. I hope Ock gets Spidey powers and becomes Superior and changes his morals , cures his insanity . Also I agree with Harry as Venom, exchanging his drug and inferiority problems from the comics with the symbiote/terminal illness plot is genius to me.
Would be reeeaaaally shitty if they choose to go with Otto possessing Pete or some shit. Two out of three games with you having to fight a “deranged” Peter to free him would be asinine, I trust that insomniac would not go with such a horrible route.
@@jingleballs9935 idk man, Otto having a frail dying body is purposely one of Insomniac's choices. Otto having a degenerative disease is the introduction to Superior Spidey. But I agree, evil Peter is said and done already
Just finished the game and loved all the story beats. I was excited with all the villain appearances too. The part when you play as Venom was so cool and the last fight with Kraven felt like it was the only way to end that characters story.
Venom with wings really surprised me, I thought that was so cool. I just wish they gave Venom a little more time in terms of story and build up. Everything went by so quick. I was a little disappointed the game didn't have the same gadgets from the first game, and the suits were mostly movie suits which I'm not a fan of. Having some are fine, but there were far too many Tom Holland suits, it's ridiculous. I'm excited to see Silk, Goblin and Carnage. Spider-Man 3 is gonna be rated M for Carnage, right? 😂
My favorite was the Last Stand suit, so was pretty bummed when it wasn't chosen as one of the returning suits. Maybe we'll get some more in updates, like Bombastic Bag-Man.
Im on my second playthrough on this game its absolutely amazing, i cried at find my grandpa and howard, and the story is amazing Edit: i also just realised that tony todd also voiced zoom which the voice for venom sounds so similar especially when he tells mj to run, it sounds like the run barry RUN on the finale scene in s2, great va though!
Insomniac is gaging interest in a Venom standalone, and they set it up perfectly. Miles will be the Spider-Man to handle it, and the stage is set for Venom vs Carnage. I can't wait. Then Spider-Man 3 will come out after Wolverine, which is confirmed to be in the same universe. The next 5 years of Insomniac is going to be incredible
@@StarLord1994 how many multiverse and Spider-verse references are there in Spider-Man 2? I lost count. Also, you're assuming that Venom would have to follow the events of Spider-Man 2, while ignoring the possibility of it happening at the same time
I'm not sure if many games have done this but the death mission you play as Haley when you have to find the spray paint person was pretty damn cool actually. I hope more games embrace that in the future titles. I'm trying to give us a different way of playing them and interacting with the world.
I really enjoyed it, it felt a little myopic with regards to the story where as the first felt a little more sprawling. I liked Kraven a lot and the Venom sequence is super fun. I'm interested to see where the expected DLC will go and how the handle the sequel, I love the idea of Green Goblin just attacking you out of nowhere while you're swinging through the city
One thing Im surprised how no many are talking about is actually seeing Venom eat Kraven’s head and seeing the body go limp and the blood dripping down. Like for a rated T game I was actually happy to see them really push the boundaries and not some corny cut away with celery breaking sounds
Love this game, especially the storytelling. They set the hate triangle between Pete and the Osbornes up perfectly. I know Pete is retired but like you said I think it’s semi-retirement, they’ll bring him out when absolutely necessary and I think that will be against green and hob goblin.
Can we talk about how Yuri Lowanthal killed it in this game? He was amazing, the way he screams "HARRY! STOP!". And the game makes you pull the triggers all the way down and it's so cool.
I think the game needed more playtime for develop better the main story… the act 1 have a good pace of introducing kraven and harry but act 2 felt rushed.. corrupted peter got mad really fast and didn’t have enough time to shine. Act 3 could have a bit more of hours too.
Game was absolutely incredible. 11/10 imo, the in game cinematics were insane. And i think making Harry Venom was the right choice for this Spider Man story. Instead of introducing Eddie Brock in this game, having Harry be Venom is a character we have already gotten know. I think it also makes it more impactful, making 2 best friends enemies is awesome. And i cnt wait to see Carnage!
great video man, glad to see someone properly understand the game plus the way your video was shot overall was great, no over the top editing and jump cuts, kept me listening from beginning to end, keep it up man!
I love how this game kept upping the ante. In a game where it's important to maintain the idea that killing characters is such a bad thing and then to have Kraven kill two of the villains outright, one of them being killed on screen really set a darker tone to me. And then even more so when Venom killed Kraven via ripping his head off, it told me the training wheels were no longer on this story and anything goes. That discomfort is what, in my opinion, made the story so much more meaningful. GOTY material right here 😊.
@@The1Overmind yea I'm a little disappointed that they killed shocker and electro, didn't care about scorpion since I always found him boring even in the comics.
@@uraveragewiteguy That's fair, no one like to see their favorite villains get eliminated (I'm a Carnage and Mysterio fan myself). I gotta say though after that moment with Scorpion I suddenly started fearing for all the villains in the Spider-Man universe lol.
Loved how insomniac tells their own story without making it feel forced. They absolutely nailed venom, showed his motives now that Harry was the host and showcased how powerful he is. Excited for what they cook for the DLC and the final chapter 😁
I wish we would have gotten more Venom in the city terrorizing Spider-Man and citizens. Imagine doing a random activity and having to bring a civilian to a hospital but Venim shows up while you’re swinging and snatches the guy and eats him.
@@PatrasPhantomI honestly think there shouldn’t have even been a symbiote arc.the game was way too short for something like that I would’ve preferred a more grounded story with venom trying to make peter’s life a living hell.
I wish we had more badass symbiote Peter and the way he changed his voice moments. Felt like a throwback to SHOCKERRRRR from the animated series. Really pissed they missed the Shocker opportunity. 😒
I ADORED Miles ability to just talk to the villains he encountered. He even had a heart to heart with Quinton Beck. That being said, my favorite villain conversion arc was the side quest Peter had with Fido
The last third of the game feels kinda packed with super cool callbacks and fan service for long time Spiderman fans. All of it was amazing but I wish they took the time to let some of it simmer. Mostly Scream and the Anti-venom suit. They felt very shoehorned in. I feel like 2 or 3 more missions would've been nice to flesh those parts out. Plus Carnage being put in a side mission, I feel, shows they tried cramming in as much as possible for the fans. But overall an amazing experience i wish i could play for the first time again
I wanted them to tease the glider so bad in the post credit scene but Insomniac knows what we wanna see so they gonna hold off as long as possible lol. Still great to see Norman and Otto interact at the end
Beautiful and extremely fun game to play. The character development from both Miles and Peter was my favorite thing about the story. Yuri voice acting was perfection! The combat is just so satisfying, and the side missions plus all other other extra activities were just the right amount of fun! Marvel Spider-Man 2 is the best superhero game of all time! P.S.: I thought MJ design was extremely attractive! But yeah, Rio is the my Latina queen! Okay, time to go outside now! 😂
Venom was the biggest jaw-dropping part of the game! I felt like i was watching a horror movie in a way! Thus, all the visuals vere stunning! I loved every moment of it!!
Playing as venom was probably the biggest shock to me - I actually paused the game and sat there alone in my room shouting wtf, followed by a huge smile while smashing shit (just a heads up - I wasn't intending on buying this. I hadn't played any of thr games until 2 weeks ago. My spiderman knowledge is very little. I hadn't seen anything involved in this game and I'm glad I went in blind)
I lost my mind when they hinted at Cindy-Silk in that final cutscene. I hope they’re brave enough to explore a Silk storyline/playable character because she’s become my favorite character in recent comics.
Martin Li was a huge standout for me this time. Mr. negative was a lot of fun in the first game, but where they took Li really elevated that character for me
Yea he was cool here.
He had such an amazing redemption ark. and hey hey helped create anti-you know what lol.
Mr positive
@@Thevikingninja117 the anti-you know what was perfect for me. What a great way to keep the Symbiote Powers and elevate the story at the same time
Yeah, though he still was responsible for terrorist attacks and New York’s personal Covid. Weird that he seemingly didn’t go back to prison
When it gave me control of Venom, I immediately handed the controller to my 7 year old son who is a massive venom fan. Kid smiled ear to ear the entire segment. So awesome
What a great dad
@@khcsmic Thanks buddy
As a father to a freshly turned 8 year old.. i made him watch hard! 😤 (we have 2 ps5’s he’ll get there lol)
I think you gave him a core memory.
Your a good person I would never do that 😂
One little thing: I really loved Tombstone's character, he felt so wholesome. He even shakes hands with Peter after they save him and it made my heart smile!
Yeah, I liked their take on redemption and making some of the ex-supervillians able to receive rehabilitation
Facts him and prowler would most likely be the only villains to not actually have grudges towards Spider-Man
What this game did with its villans is what Ive always dreamed a Batman story would do , Bruce and his rule of no killing wiuld make much more sense if we saw his villans getting reformed.
I liked the redemption, but I had just been playing spiderman one where I watched him put his foot through someone's skull. No idea how he's free so soon after all that
I hated scorpion being killed. That sucked
I love how the symbiote made Peter, MJ, Miles & Harry all tell the truth to each other. It was like therapy. Great story.
True
Therapy sessions in games... thrilling stuff
while in control of/fighting a massive symbiote monster? yeah its a good time 😭
Felt like more of a sequel to Miles Morales game than the proper Spider-Man sequel.
I thought it was a bit weird tbh - I wouldn't trust a single word knowing that the alien symbiote has the incentive just manipulate the host into doing/saying anything it needs to to prolong its survival
No one talks about the helping Howard side mission. It made me cry and is my favourite side mission. Its so beautifully done with the song playing out in the background whilst you travel with the flock to the emotional connection set by Howard. Executed perfectly
I cried my ass off too man! The music was perfect and emotional connection to Howard before in the 1st game, and this side mission was just awesome! Cried so hard on my way across the river.
Probably the best side mission tbh
Has anyone played that mission as miles? I immediately switched to Peter since he helped him with the flock in the first game
Ive been preaching this
Softie
the fact that Pete was struggling with the mortgage, made me feel his struggle on a deeper level
You’re 26 with a mortgage? Only way someone his age could get a mortgage these days is……well, the exact way Peter got one. Death.
That mortgage payment made me sad.
4000 a month, I cried like I had to actually pay it
Rent is always a thing for Spider-Man. However, I thought it was ridiculous that May had mortgaged her home to finance a business she didn’t own when the real owner was a deca-millionaire.
@@Menckenperson I forgot Li was rich, that's a really good point.
Making Venom a playable character in game with a unique skills and everything for just a couple of moment of gameplay is just insane to think about. I appreciate more the effort Insomniac put to this game!
*Still waiting for a patch where we can customized the color of symbiote abilities*
I think doing a venom dlc was always the plan
They put in less effort than the first game.
totally agree with the last part, hate the look of the white symbiote
Don’t forget Carnage teaser. Cult leader carnage is a scary mix.
@@FireDarylMorey The story was short but good. I just think the Symbiote arc was rushed. And the last act should have been a few more hours
I have a few more complaints but that's it. I also miss how the city felt more alive last game. That's prob just me tho, and some features too
I didn’t like how there wasn’t a lot of kraven scenes…whoever voiced him absolutely killed it
Yea the voice actor for him (Jim Pirri) he played Angelo brante (RDR2) and boozer as well (Days Gone), he's a terrific actor
I agree! He totally stole the show every second he was on screen! Honestly high praise to everyone involved in the game because the voice actors for this game are all top notch! I think it was the writing and animation that elevated his vocal performance to that degree. Not to deny his talent at all! It’s just that you can tell all the departments were working toward a shared goal and everyone gave it their all!
A few more would have been nice. But I felt he definitely played his role in the grand conflict well. His final moments were definitely pretty unexpected. But he was used very well to convey what a threat Venom actually was.
Tom todd is his name I guess goat man
Yeah, For a guy supposed to be the HUNTER, he did a surprising amount of NO hunting. Let all his goons hunt for him
I loved how part of this game was Peter and Miles protecting villains it shows how deep their belief in saving people goes
I think it’s really interesting how they are setting up Norman. By keeping Harry alive, I can definitely see Norman being driven by hope far more compelling than him being driven by revenge.
Dang, that’s a really good point. I did feel a bit off with Harry not dying at the end but this helps me feel a bit better about it.
That’s so true before the game I thought he would go crazy cause harry dies but this is way better
I mean Norman is going to be the green goblin but then when Norman dies😊 Harry is gonna be the Hob Goblin!
I can see Norman getting killed or betrayed and harry taking the g serum
@@TheWrightWayPlaysno Harry is already venom wouldn't make sense to make him hobgoblin anyway and plus the original hob goblin has no relation to the Osborne and I feel like that's the direction they should go with hobgoblin save him to be a villain for miles....Peter has green goblin give hob goblin to miles especially since Peter has a more personal connection to grew as apposed to hob who is just another villain that Spidey has to stop mils is the second spider-man and hob goblin is the second goblin it work
adding onto the peter miles relationship, i love how they both treat it like they’re coworkers lol miles showing up to a stakeout and peter going “hey man, glad you could make it” was adorable to me lol
The moments in this game were spectacular! From Yuri, to Scream, the anti-venom suit, to Peter vs Miles this game just kept cracking the hype nob up as a Spider-Man fan.
Also how Mj isnt just a model thats in distress.. she actually can do something...they even showed how shes ride or die jumping in front of peter when venom attacked in the kitchen when peter has the op powers!
The moment that hit me hard is when Peter told Harry he loves him i was in tears
This game would’ve been a 10/10 if it wasn’t for the MJ missions. They absolutely sucked. They sucked in spider-man 1 and they suck in this game too. Scream was awesome af but the forced stealth MJ missions were bad. And what was up with that ending? Another forced MJ mission where the game turns to a third person shooter. I’m tryna play as spider man. Not MJ lol
@@sourpatchkillathat's her character.... She is not supposed to be able to defeat skilled hunters but sneaking up on them... and one shoting them when the Spider-Men take dozens of hits to beat them... If she can hunt hunters and kill symbiotes like she is Jill Valentine then what is the point of Spider-Man? Does she have gun experience? More than hunters that trained their entire life? Does she have CIA sneaking experience? More than hunters that are shown to.... Know how to hunt?!?
@goodfellas1001 it's a video game about people in a super hero universe...also different universes...this mj isn't trash or whatever you want her to be... this mj can actually do something...sorry that spiderman dosent use weapons or motorcycles in this game. Mj can be alot of things...sorry she's not what you want her to be...😅
I’m so happy you brought up Agent Venom!! Not enough people were talking about it!
It looked PERFECT
I didn’t expect agent venom
@@raidengoodman8754or anti venom
It made me happy as well! Insomniac knows what they are doing :)
I really like that they did Scream. Symbiote Peter did some extremely traumatizing shit to MJ that they don't really debrief about but with Scream putting him through something similar it feels more like MJ can see what that situation was like for Peter and not feel as scared of him or resentful for it
no
Anyone else pause the game in complete awe when you got to play as Venom?
That mission was so messed up specially the finishers with guys being snapped in half also the ending of the mission, i was not expecting it to go down like that, btw i loved every moment of it, hopefully insomniac can make either a venom spinoff (there is the spiderverse) or a hulk game
Just made me realize even more how good the Wolverine game could be feeling like an unstoppable killing machine
@@jacob3761that shit better be rated M
I deliberately avoided using photo mode until this happened. I couldn't not
Hell yes!!
When Kraven tells you harder while choking him with the symbiote.
Yo Kraven, wtf?
I’m waiting for that Carnage DLC. I loved the gradual reveal of Cletus Kasady as “the flame”. When I first saw him in the 2nd mission I even kind of thought he looked like him but was thinking they’d be going a different route. Then my jaw dropped when he takes that symbiote and it turned red… good stuff.
I loved that scene too but it seemed a little out of place. Maybe that should have been after the main story...? I don't know 😕
I think he should be in the next game
One thing you didn't mention that got me excited, teasing Chameleon. A villain that's often overlooked but really has a lot of potential imo, especially the way they set him up by letting you investigate his apartment.
when do you do this? i just finished the main story yesterday and don’t remember it at all
@@daltonhartman4466Its at the end of the talon drone side missions
Yesssss. Jake's talked about how he would love Insomniac to do Chameleon to be done in some Q&A videos in the past and I was dying to hear his thoughts and excitement about it here. Hopefully in a future video he'll talk about it more. Once I finished that side mission my first thought was yeah I'm pretty sure Jake will be hype about this lol.
When Pete says “hey man, glad you could make it” at the first raft mission, I can’t explain it but that line hit different. It felt like he was talking to me in a crazy way. Between the VA’s and the cinematic’s, i felt more immersed in this game than any other game in a long time
Literally my only 'big" complaint is that I wish we got a venom fight running through the city throwing each other around like the rhino mall chase
Yeah not gonna lie the trailer that showed Peter standing by Mays grave and him and miles fighting venom in the city didn’t even happen.
Or the concept art of Miles and Peter fighting venom in the city at night.
Missed opportunity.
@@UltimodestructicoI think a lot of stuff was cut for time. I think Sony really was trying to push this out. Miles morales came out in 2020 and this came out now 3 years later but the original Spider-Man on PS4 was a 6-7 year dev cycle. Where as this was probability half of that. And they developed a side game in between. I think with the next one we probably won’t see till the end of the ps5 or ps6. Cause Wolverine is probably a 2025-2026 game
As a die hard Symbiote fan this game did everything for me. So many sequences were packed in this game that I never imagined they'd do. Including some newer aspects from recent Venom runs that really showed how much Insomniac is committed to the Spider-Man mythology and giving it the love and respect it's earned over the decades of storytelling.
I’m a die hard symbiote fan too but I don’t think they did he best job. The arc felt rushed but everything that was made was made with huge quality
I just wish they had the balls to actually explain it. But unfortunately, they went the route wos did by expecting you to understand the lore, even though the lore they are using is a blend of 2 seperate continuties of venom which is confusing to me, I also havent read a lot of the new venom stuff so its really hard to follow
The fact they included elements of “King in black” had me full chub.
My only problem with the symbiote thing is that it’s nature and motives were never fully explained. We could speculate all day long about everything it did but it is never made clear. Why is it attracted to Peter specifically from first contact? Why did it not affect Harry as agent venom? Does it have goals of its own or does it aspire to achieve its host’s goals? Was it really using Harry to get to Pete or something or did it actually form a bond with Harry and cared about him? I’m not much into comics so I had a lot of unanswered questions which felt frustrating. Like everything happened for no reason.
@@venus_riotous5295 Yeah it didnt explain how MJ became *SPOILER* at the end either
Amazing analysis man. You made an excellent point about Peter's look of pride when he sees Miles. As a guy who lost his own mentor figure early on and had to figure out being Spider-Man on his own way, I think he gets a sense of pride and accomplishment in himself as he sees how well Miles is turning out. I think this is one of the most positive representations of brotherhood and mentorship in gaming and it's pretty funny that we get relatively so little of it as they spend most of the game separated.
One thing though - I think it's important to note that Miles does not forgive Martin Li, he explicitly states that he can never forgive him but his inspiration in Pete's belief in giving villains second chances gives him the mental strength to put aside his own conflicting emotions and allow Martin to help. I think this comes full circle when Pete himself tells Miles how surprised he is in how Miles "rehabilitated his greatest enemy" when he himself inspired Miles to do this.
The Wakandan embassy was a great touch once you got the suit for Miles. Great tribute to Chadwick
I know a lot of people say they wish it was longer, and from one perspective, I agree, but I very much appreciate that they made a tight, solid story, with very little fluff or filler. Especially with how many studios seem to he looking for the "forever game" live service model,or trying to make a 200 hour game. Its very nice to see a developer respect my time and attention. Instead of making me hunt down 500 checklist items for a golden poop, it gave me a few thibgs to hunt, and asatisfying easter egg to conclude the hunt.
Speaking of that easter egg, I REALLY liked the spider-verse suit animations. It was the chef's kiss on top of an already amazing game.
I was exhausted just watching the full playthtough 😂😅
There were so many epic mic drop moments! It reminded me of how Uncharted 2 did epic huge story missions on PS3.
I was with you, I loved the mission with Harry as Agent Venom and the whole theme here of redeeming all these super villains was great. But it turning into like a Web of Shadows sequel was my absolute favorite part, I had a big dumb grin when I saw the city start to get overrun cause that was like my favorite Spider-Man thing as a kid
The range of Insomniac's spiderman is crazy and I love it! They go from big spectacles like kraven hunting super-folks in broad daylight, to sweet little moments like helping Howard or that one old man find his granddaughter
The animation work in Spiderman 2 is stunning. The sheer amount of extremely high quality animation and blending seamlessly with gameplay is state of the art.
Fucking loved that ending. Martin Li being redeemed as a good dude, keeping the symbiote powers, MJ and scream, the depth of the relationships, and the insane depth of the gameplay despite feeling easier to manage. What a great game. Easily my game of the year
As someone who’s loved Mysterio since I was a kid I was floored to see them to such justice to the character. His boss battle was one of my favorites in the game. Happy he wasn’t sidelined
I really liked the storyline of Mysterio but the boss battle fell a bit flat for me, personally
@@henry7486 I kinda just wished that they retained a typical twist and that Quentin himself was actually the bad guy. It would’ve packed more of a punch
The minute Scream turned up, I had to pause the game and just take a second to comprehend how much insomniac were taking from the comics. I'm kind of new to the deeper comic book lore but seeing nice little references I understood was such a cool feeling
Same here! I was in denial like, “no way they just did that! OMG I’m actually fighting her!”
I think my only complaint with mj turning into scream is why did mj turn into scream of all things? Wouldnt she just be turned into a normal symbiote? And if Venom can make iconic symbiotes appear out of nowhere, then where tf is everybody else?😂
@@jahzelortiz1123well this is Venom we’re talking about…he’s all about fuckin with Peter’s head. He knows everything about Peter so he’s not going to turn MJ into a run-of-the-mill symbiote…he’s gonna put some oomph into it. It’s one of the reasons Venom is one of my all-time favorite villians. He plays some real mind games with Peter and it’s tragically spectacular.
@@Wheeliam_Ironside See i’d be down with that too, but what confuses me is why every single other symbiote doesnt follow suit with what MJ turned into. Like she turns into Scream with the white eyes and long tendril hair but like everybody else is pretty similar. Like why didnt MJ have the spiral instead? It’s not too much of a big thing but I feel like some parts of the game they just said fuck it and gave us Scream exactly as she is because we like Scream
@@jahzelortiz1123 but that’s what i’m saying. Those other symbiotes are acting more like a plague where they’re infecting each other spanning out from those seed things as more of an extension of Venom. But with MJ Venom knew what she meant to Peter and spawned a whole new symbiote for the occasion.
I loved that Venom was tied to Knull and being almost an eldritch horror, getting into peoples heads and giving them gross fleshy visions. I do REALLY hope that Venom can be brought back in some capacity expanding more on just the one level he had in a future title (or maybe DLC) And it would be crazy if Silk becomes the third and final character you can play as in the third game. Hopefully its all hands on deck over at Insomniac for the Wolverine game before the third and final game.
yeah I'd wait five years for a spider-man 3 as long as I got an amazing wolverine game
Yes they went full-on Knull and the symbiote hive mind. Loved it.
I loved how they even teased that Harry might become the goblin. During the start of the end sequence they discuss the game plan and use a DND-like Goblin for Harry. I hope they won't do that though since he already was the villain in this game. (Edit: spelling)
I didn't catch that! Yea I am guessing they will go into Harry's traditional arc of becoming hobgoblin
Norman also said at the end to BRING OUT THE G-SERUM if that confirms anything
I just wish there was more of Harry in the game, be it hanging with Peter and MJ or as one of the spider pals. The section where it’s available in the game before giving Peter the black suit was too short. Also, super glad they didn’t outright kill Harry since that’d just be too devastating, and I’m hoping Peter’s able to give him Anti-Venom to help treat his disease
Venom doing Touchdowns with Peter’s body as the ball was nuts
Was my most hyped game this year and was blown away. The writing was so good. Got teary eyed during the find my grandpa side quest. Venom and the powers were exactly what I wanted
Ask me how I know you smell like Funko Pops.
@@OilFreeFeathers you didn't need to do him like that...
@ssj4922 It was out of nowhere too because bro is just talking about how he likes a video game
@@OilFreeFeathersThat’s kind of uncalled for
@@OilFreeFeathers🤣
As a 90s kid that was obsessed with Spider-Man. In particular the McFarlane run and the whole symbiote storyline. All I’ve wanted was to see the symbiote storyline done right. This game was absolutely incredible, a dream come true, and had my jaw on the floor over and over again. I just beat it last night and started my second play through today.
Just finished my second playthrough today and I'm saving the 3rd playthrough for when gameplay plus release
@@dcrawley507Nice! Yeah I wish it had NG+. It’s tough immediately going back in and not having all of my skill tree and gadgets usable lol. Also playing on hardest difficulty..
McFarlane's run was EPIC. Still have a few
@@gregorynichols2951Oh dude I own a mint Amazing Spider-Man 300, signed by McFarlane. Bought it when I was like 12 yrs old at a comic shop in Memphis for $60 back in 1997. Spent my allowance money on it because I knew it was first appearance of Venom. Got it signed just a few years ago. Also own a ton of other 80s & 90s Spidey comics including the whole Maximum Carnage run among others. I should probably have them graded because several of them are worth a lot of money but I’d probably never part with them tbh.
Feels like they’re setting up for a Miles Morales 2 with Peter going into “retirement”. Miles will probably have his own villain to deal with there. And the end credit scene is the set up for Spider-Man 3 where Peter has to come back as Spider-Man and deal with Sinister Six 2.0. Not sure where Carnage fits into all of this, but Spidey 2 DLC seems most likely. Either way I absolutely can’t wait to see what they do in the future with this incredible series. Best Spidey content in media by far, besides the comics.
When you see the book in the Crimson Hour cult with their idea of the fire taking over, and it's Carnage attacking, I was so excited to see what they did. The fact that they ended that story with a tease for a future game, is amazing. Does a good job of explaining what will most likely pull Peter out of retirement as well.
Also, RIP Howard. Hope he's flying through the city as a pigeon right now.
Grandpa lost on the park bench and Howard’s final pigeon mission made me ugly cry. Truly some of the best side quests insomniac has had in this series so far.
This! Omgah did you help out the blind lady? This game man…🫠
Yeah, the robot dog killed her by now. They had to paint LGBT shit on it really was cringe.
@@josephraymond3180are you talking about the rainbow and the clouds? lmao
I did those back to back 🙃
@@josephraymond3180😂😂😂 cringey?!?
The emotion in this game was great. All the actors were amazing. The voices of Kraven and Venom was amazing.
What a game. Insomniac have certainly cemented themselves as a top tier developer over the past 5 years. Can't wait to see what they do with Wolverine.
They've always been a top tier developer. I'm glad they're getting accolades now but yeah they have a history of bangers
They better make the Wolverine game much longer! An original origins story to him properly becoming wolverine would be great!!
I want a game that has at least 30hrs of story instead of the 8 Spider-Man 2 had...
@@thevoicewithin9845spiderman 2 was 17 hours bruh
Wolverine will probs be the same at least it’s same to assume
@@The-Legend-of-P I have pictures up on here showing it is nowhere near 17hrs!
People have 100% the game and platinum'd it in around 17hrs. The story was embarrassingly short! Stop spreading misinformation and lies
@@thevoicewithin9845 and I can take a picture showing my plat trophy after 50 hours lmao. People play the game as long as they want. They can either rush the story in a weekend and beat it really quickly, then complain there’s nothing to do, or they can just play the game and enjoy it without rushing. I beat the game in 3-4 days and it’s long enough. 17 hours isn’t a short game my guy. That’s a long time and takes awhile to develop. Do you complain how movies are ONLY 2-3 hours now when it’s probably been in production for 3 years at that point?? 17 hours is 3/4 of a day. That is a long game. I can’t really imagine it being any longer cause they don’t want it to overstay it’s welcome. Rather a short great game that does what it’s supposed to. Then random game thar just keeps dragging. Like Jedi survivor 3rd act that’s a random 10 extra hours
Feels weird Carnage was just a side mission reveal. Feels like it should’ve been more, yenno?
Definitely, he’s my favorite marvel character and his appearance was spoiled for me cause I thought I was safe from the internet after beating the main story lol. Oh well just glad he’s being included finally.
Miles' was underutilized in the story imo but still had so many layers to his arc. He actually didn't forgive Li, he told him he never would but he realized hating him wasn't serving him. I feel like that's even more mature (and realistic) than just forgiving Li.
Miles should not have been in the game and took up time that would have been better spent focusing on Peter’s story.
@@mark_thurwangerthe story and gameplay would have been so much worse if it was just Peter
@@mark_thurwangertoo bad he is in the game so keep crying about it haha
@henry7486 No it wouldn't.
Peter's story is the meat of the plot.
Miles' story is...there
@@mark_thurwangernothing to do about it but cope.
Norman hating Spiderman at the end when Harry literally survived felt very forced to me. Like they literally stood in a room and said Harry is probably too far gone and you’ll have to kill the host, but spiderman still manages to keep Harry alive in the end, and we’re supposed to believe Norman wants to kill spiderman now??
Yea I thought he was tripping in that scene to 😂😂
Agreed thought that was very strange
Norman made spiderman promise he would save Harry. Harry now being on life support isn't exactly Normans idea of 'saved' and will obviously tip him over the edge. Norman could never separate Harry and Venom, they were both always Harry. Harry only has brain functionality. Spiderman technically broke his promise.
I was thinking "oh wow this Norman is gonna feel like he owes spiderman because he knows that everyone else said harry was gone..." only for him to act like he witnessed a completely different ending than i did.
@@SiRRAHx
The problem is that literally every other person involved told Norman that it completely IMPOSSIBLE to save Harry at all. So now he just looks like a crazy asshole and he lost the sympathy I had for him.
Love how the friendly neighborhood part of the character wasn’t lost despite the raised stakes, there’s still moments like the Howard mission or realm any of the friendly neighbourhood app or Brooklyn visions missions
I feel like there hasnt been a game in a long time that respects the players time like this. Full of story the whole ride and i platinumed it with 28 hours of game time. I expected it to end after the venom kraven fight and make us wait for the next game to wrap up the storyline. Seeing scream, the carnage symbiote and then the King in Black suit, It just kept giving to spiderman and venom fans. I dont think ive ever been this satisfied at the end of a game.
Respects players? LOL. The game literally is a propaganda piece trying to use good enough gameplay to sneak a political message.
@@ArnoSchmidt22 what political message?
@@AnathemaSGDon’t even bother to argue with this person..
@@AnathemaSG lol, probably that minorities and disabled people exist or something if I had to guess
@@AnathemaSG are you serious? they push the LGBT agenda very hard, gun control even harder and climate activism as hard as they can.
i just loved those small interactions where you can go up to miles/peter after a fight, press triangle for an animation like them giving each other a quick hug or that little pointing meme. very cute, and adds to their dynamic even just a little bit.
The symbiote arc felt rushed for me. Wish the story was longer. Phenomenal game though. Hopefully they add all in all missing features from previous games in future patches.
I AGREE. I honestly could have done without it and just focused on my boy venom. I wanted to see venom be more of a menace to Spider-Man. Same thing about kraven.
Honestly kraven should've been stopped earlier. He barely did anything. Venom should've gotten more screen time
I think they did Venom dirty in this game.
And I wish it involved MORE super heroes. It's been established that Avengers, Fantastic 4, and (Likely) x-men exist in this game. Not to mention solo superheroes like Luke Cage, Jessica Jones, and Matt Murdock (Daredevil) being there as well. Venom Threat can't be more world wide than it is. I know Insomniac probably couldn't get permission, but come on! Every superhero in America must know.
yeah I honestly feel like they put waaaay too much on their plate with this game. still super solid all things considered
As a spidey fan and grew up watching mostly 90s - early 00s Spider-Man - this was a dream come true. Easily the best superhero game ever and the funnest of its genre.
I would like them to make more boss fights throughout the city. Many boss fights here are just in arenas that don't take advantage of the swinging. I also don't feel sure about the antivenom as a permanent thing. I thought Prter was gonna lose it, but it seems he's keeping it. Carnage is prime DLC material. Overall good game
Hope they tease more of the symbiotes and tease knull
They also hinted at Iron Fist, because one of the people Miles has to save in a side mission mentions that she works for a company called Rand Industries.
I don't read the comics so when stuff like Scream and Silk were brought up I had to look them up. I appreciate the game made me do that though because so much of that stuff is so cool. Happy that Insomniac is willing to break out of the mainstream to do cool stuff like that and help bring in people like me further into the fandom
Same for me too. I've heard of Silk before but didn't know her real name so when she gets introduced I'm sitting there like wait WHAT? Lol. Still elicited a hype reaction once I googled it. Very exciting to see what Insomniac plans to do with the character.
Kinda surprised you didn’t mention the mysteriums or the Spiderverse easter egg. Great vid Jake, love the positive thoughts all around. I feel the same way about everything as you, but I did enjoy the MJ missions. I thought they improved upon them a lot and it gave. break from the other gameplay. Some people don’t like the side stuff where the gameplay slows down like riding the bike with Harry, the JJJ bike riding one, MJ missions, or Coney Island with the gang but I loved all them and felt they gave a ton of heart and emotion to the game so glad you liked majority of them. Your vids about the game are my favorite I’ve watched. Just positive and shows your love for Spider-man as a whole
Just finished it, there were so many incredible moments. I absolutely adored the game. I think above all else, they NAILED these characters. Kraven, Miles and Mr Negative are standouts as insanely good interpretations.
Awesome to be able to experience this game as a lifelong Spidey fan.
I loved the Easter eggs in the game like referring to daredevil at the end of sandman questline and also chameleon was teased as kravens half brother with web of shadows Easter eggs.
Yuri and Peter’s difference in ideologies made for some compelling dialogue. And I’m glad that she pointed out the flaw in Peter in that he’s too willing to save one life at the expense of hundreds.
The moment I saw The Flame's red hair and realized they weren't using his name, I was like, "That's Cletus Cassidy." And they didn't disappoint. In my humble opinion, they made him a little more interesting than other versions of the character.
I genuinely thought he was just gonna be a nameless Symbiote miniboss until I noticed his Symbiote was red. I spent that entire quest line wondering what villain he was a new interpretation of. It should’ve been so obvious beforehand but I’m an idiot apparently lol.
I think giving the character the cult leader style is a nice touch to add to the fact that he's a crazy killer that'll get his way. I can't wait to see how they do his character when he becomes carnage.
Carnage is a harsh but very hard to balance character especially if the games are gonna stay T rated. Hopefully they do the character justice.
Nah, you're no idiot. I'm really good at foreseeing stuff like this because I write screenplays for fun and I study writing a lot in my spare time. The one annoying thing about that is it makes it really easy to see where other writers are going long before the writer intends for the audience to know.@@FKDotFitzgerald
@@FKDotFitzgeraldYou're good man. I was so focused on Venom, Venom, Venom that Carnage was the furthest thing from my mind until it happened. 😅
I love this game, love the agent venom twist and the fact that he can show up while you are fighting crime, my only complaint is I want more of it, not necessarily a bad thing tho, but feel they haven't found the perfect balance of main action to side quest yet, but love it and excited about everything that they give to us in the future especially new game plus and Wolverine
I feel like they definitely explored Peter and the death of May with the whole symbiote Spiderman story, how letting her die was pushing him to be a stronger Spiderman and find balance
I really loved it. Felt the relationship between the characters felt really fleshed out. Loves the moment at the end when MJ and Peter look so grateful to Miles for Peter to be able to take a breather. Lots of emotion in their faces.
Also looking forward to what they do with green goblin
1. Rio is a smokeshow.
2. I honestly think this was my favorite interpretation of Venom. The Harry/Peter connection gave it a lot more emotional gravity than Brock. I also love that the Symbiote is the one pushing the Human element to hurt Spider-Man. Finally, the Symbiote immigrating Harry's mom in his head was soooo well done.
3. Miles's suit at the end was absolutely awesome, though I think I prefer the Red/Black color scheme that you can throw on it.
Love this game
Game is a masterpiece. Enjoyed every second. Can't wait to play part 3. Hopefully we can play as more villains
This game was truly amazing! I had so many OMG moments playing this game! The side content was really good as a Spider-Man fan from since the 90’s. But stories they carried from the first game in 2018 was great too. The Help Howard mission brought tears to my eyes. Such good writing by Insomniac.
I feel like this story, plus all the side missions are really well written. Like all the character moments and all the growth. Finally getting a Black suit for Peter, and just the boss fights are very unique and fun. Especially the final boss where you’re switching from Peter and Miles constantly. The whole symbiote invasion was so so cool. Really fun game.
This game felt like an answered prayer. I had so much fun playing through this, and I don't know about anyone else but I don't often find myself just being giddy and really enjoying myself when playing games now. Maybe it's the nostalgia, but regardless, this game was so well done top to bottom.
It’s a masterpiece fr
I just finished the game and loved it. But I kinda lost my mind when i started playing as Venom. I was like wait could this be what a Hulk game would feel like?? Such a nice little surprise.
Also crazy dad Norman is such a good Green Goblin lead up
Yeah I really liked it too, wasn’t sure on Harry as Venom coming into the game but Insomniac nailed it, it totally worked for me. Eddie Brock could have been interesting but I think Harry worked well plus they had the groundwork on their relationship and Harry’s character from the science stations in the first game to allow them to keep the story tighter.
My one issue, and it is SOOO nit picky I know, is the parry mechanic, specifically the colour scheme. Having Red be the parriable attack colour is just maddening to me, the first 2 games trained my brain to hit dodge whenever I see red on the screen, I just couldn’t break that habit the entire 30 hours, just make it blue and have the unblockable attack be red, I get why they did it, you could parry attacks when your spider sense goes red too but it just didn’t work for me. By no means ruined my enjoyment of the game at all but it’s just such a weird choice and it never stopped ruining my combat flow
I’m so glad to know I’m not the only one that really struggled with muscle memory and the parry mechanic! Also yes, venom was absolutely amazing this game. I just wish it were longer cause I feel like they tried to do too much and did not give everything enough time.
Never really had issues with it, just a choice whether I want to dodge or parry
Yeah the parry system is pretty crap in this game. Like, you CAN learn how to do it, but it’s not consistent and just sucks and it’s really unnecessary. and breaks up the flow of combat.
Superior Spider-Man for Spidey 3? But Peter becoming evil again is a tired plot now. I hope Ock gets Spidey powers and becomes Superior and changes his morals , cures his insanity . Also I agree with Harry as Venom, exchanging his drug and inferiority problems from the comics with the symbiote/terminal illness plot is genius to me.
Nope, Superior's suit is in the game. Insomniac said the reason why the black suit wasn't in SM1 was because of the story.
Would be reeeaaaally shitty if they choose to go with Otto possessing Pete or some shit. Two out of three games with you having to fight a “deranged” Peter to free him would be asinine, I trust that insomniac would not go with such a horrible route.
That’s def not happening
@@jingleballs9935 idk man, Otto having a frail dying body is purposely one of Insomniac's choices. Otto having a degenerative disease is the introduction to Superior Spidey.
But I agree, evil Peter is said and done already
Nah but I feel like ‘Red Goblin’ is pretty likely
Miles’s line to Martin Li about not being able to forgive him but that he can’t keep hating him was pure gold.
Hatred takes so much energy.
Just finished the game and loved all the story beats. I was excited with all the villain appearances too. The part when you play as Venom was so cool and the last fight with Kraven felt like it was the only way to end that characters story.
Imagine if symbiote Peter had to do the guy asks other dude to prom mission 💀
Venom with wings really surprised me, I thought that was so cool. I just wish they gave Venom a little more time in terms of story and build up. Everything went by so quick.
I was a little disappointed the game didn't have the same gadgets from the first game, and the suits were mostly movie suits which I'm not a fan of. Having some are fine, but there were far too many Tom Holland suits, it's ridiculous.
I'm excited to see Silk, Goblin and Carnage. Spider-Man 3 is gonna be rated M for Carnage, right? 😂
I personally didn't like Venom with wings. I would have preferred to see him webswing
My favorite was the Last Stand suit, so was pretty bummed when it wasn't chosen as one of the returning suits. Maybe we'll get some more in updates, like Bombastic Bag-Man.
A couple of the little side stories where they talked about spouses, especially with the old guy whose wife had died, made me tear up pretty good.
Im on my second playthrough on this game its absolutely amazing, i cried at find my grandpa and howard, and the story is amazing
Edit: i also just realised that tony todd also voiced zoom which the voice for venom sounds so similar especially when he tells mj to run, it sounds like the run barry RUN on the finale scene in s2, great va though!
Oh Howard broke me. The swinging with the pigeons too made it hit hard 🥹
This game made me feel like a kid again
I havent truely played it but I have enjoy watching ppl playing it. I am at the beginning of the game. Storyline is very good.
Insomniac is gaging interest in a Venom standalone, and they set it up perfectly. Miles will be the Spider-Man to handle it, and the stage is set for Venom vs Carnage. I can't wait. Then Spider-Man 3 will come out after Wolverine, which is confirmed to be in the same universe. The next 5 years of Insomniac is going to be incredible
How did they set it up perfectly? They destroyed the symbiote. Harry is in a coma now?
@@StarLord1994 how many multiverse and Spider-verse references are there in Spider-Man 2? I lost count. Also, you're assuming that Venom would have to follow the events of Spider-Man 2, while ignoring the possibility of it happening at the same time
Venom doesn’t need his own game lmao. He’s not that interesting to carry an entire AAA open world game. The time spent playing as him here was perfect
@@Luke101 did you ever play The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction?
@@Luke101prototype is the best venom game
I'm not sure if many games have done this but the death mission you play as Haley when you have to find the spray paint person was pretty damn cool actually. I hope more games embrace that in the future titles. I'm trying to give us a different way of playing them and interacting with the world.
I really enjoyed it, it felt a little myopic with regards to the story where as the first felt a little more sprawling. I liked Kraven a lot and the Venom sequence is super fun. I'm interested to see where the expected DLC will go and how the handle the sequel, I love the idea of Green Goblin just attacking you out of nowhere while you're swinging through the city
One thing Im surprised how no many are talking about is actually seeing Venom eat Kraven’s head and seeing the body go limp and the blood dripping down. Like for a rated T game I was actually happy to see them really push the boundaries and not some corny cut away with celery breaking sounds
Love this game, especially the storytelling. They set the hate triangle between Pete and the Osbornes up perfectly. I know Pete is retired but like you said I think it’s semi-retirement, they’ll bring him out when absolutely necessary and I think that will be against green and hob goblin.
Can we talk about how Yuri Lowanthal killed it in this game? He was amazing, the way he screams "HARRY! STOP!". And the game makes you pull the triggers all the way down and it's so cool.
I think the game needed more playtime for develop better the main story… the act 1 have a good pace of introducing kraven and harry but act 2 felt rushed.. corrupted peter got mad really fast and didn’t have enough time to shine. Act 3 could have a bit more of hours too.
Game was absolutely incredible. 11/10 imo, the in game cinematics were insane. And i think making Harry Venom was the right choice for this Spider Man story. Instead of introducing Eddie Brock in this game, having Harry be Venom is a character we have already gotten know. I think it also makes it more impactful, making 2 best friends enemies is awesome. And i cnt wait to see Carnage!
I shed quite a few tears during the gameplay. With the ending, and the pigeon mission, and the lost grandparent. I really love this game!
great video man, glad to see someone properly understand the game plus the way your video was shot overall was great, no over the top editing and jump cuts, kept me listening from beginning to end, keep it up man!
I love how this game kept upping the ante. In a game where it's important to maintain the idea that killing characters is such a bad thing and then to have Kraven kill two of the villains outright, one of them being killed on screen really set a darker tone to me. And then even more so when Venom killed Kraven via ripping his head off, it told me the training wheels were no longer on this story and anything goes. That discomfort is what, in my opinion, made the story so much more meaningful. GOTY material right here 😊.
He actually got scorpion, electro, and shocker
@@uraveragewiteguy my b, I missed one but yeah that shock value is still there! 🙂
@@The1Overmind yea I'm a little disappointed that they killed shocker and electro, didn't care about scorpion since I always found him boring even in the comics.
@@uraveragewiteguy That's fair, no one like to see their favorite villains get eliminated (I'm a Carnage and Mysterio fan myself). I gotta say though after that moment with Scorpion I suddenly started fearing for all the villains in the Spider-Man universe lol.
@@uraveragewiteguyvulture as well too right?
Loved how insomniac tells their own story without making it feel forced. They absolutely nailed venom, showed his motives now that Harry was the host and showcased how powerful he is. Excited for what they cook for the DLC and the final chapter 😁
I hit the like button so hard I think I broke it 😢
Wow thanks 🙏!
I wish we would have gotten more Venom in the city terrorizing Spider-Man and citizens. Imagine doing a random activity and having to bring a civilian to a hospital but Venim shows up while you’re swinging and snatches the guy and eats him.
Yeah this is my only complaint, there's not ENOUGH Venom. Also the symbiote invasion arc happened really fast, it felt a little rushed
@@PatrasPhantomI honestly think there shouldn’t have even been a symbiote arc.the game was way too short for something like that I would’ve preferred a more grounded story with venom trying to make peter’s life a living hell.
Yeah they bit off a bit more than they could chew@@ziyadhatem
I wish we had more badass symbiote Peter and the way he changed his voice moments. Felt like a throwback to SHOCKERRRRR from the animated series. Really pissed they missed the Shocker opportunity. 😒
I ADORED Miles ability to just talk to the villains he encountered. He even had a heart to heart with Quinton Beck. That being said, my favorite villain conversion arc was the side quest Peter had with Fido
I think the game didn’t have as many outright emotional heavy moments but the themes I my opinion were much deeper
The last third of the game feels kinda packed with super cool callbacks and fan service for long time Spiderman fans. All of it was amazing but I wish they took the time to let some of it simmer. Mostly Scream and the Anti-venom suit. They felt very shoehorned in. I feel like 2 or 3 more missions would've been nice to flesh those parts out. Plus Carnage being put in a side mission, I feel, shows they tried cramming in as much as possible for the fans. But overall an amazing experience i wish i could play for the first time again
I'm really impressed with Insomniac's restraint in holding off on Green Goblin until game 3.
I wanted them to tease the glider so bad in the post credit scene but Insomniac knows what we wanna see so they gonna hold off as long as possible lol. Still great to see Norman and Otto interact at the end
I want a Venom horde mode. Something like what they are doing with God of War.
Beautiful and extremely fun game to play. The character development from both Miles and Peter was my favorite thing about the story. Yuri voice acting was perfection! The combat is just so satisfying, and the side missions plus all other other extra activities were just the right amount of fun!
Marvel Spider-Man 2 is the best superhero game of all time!
P.S.: I thought MJ design was extremely attractive! But yeah, Rio is the my Latina queen! Okay, time to go outside now! 😂
Venom was the biggest jaw-dropping part of the game! I felt like i was watching a horror movie in a way! Thus, all the visuals vere stunning! I loved every moment of it!!
Playing as venom was probably the biggest shock to me - I actually paused the game and sat there alone in my room shouting wtf, followed by a huge smile while smashing shit (just a heads up - I wasn't intending on buying this. I hadn't played any of thr games until 2 weeks ago. My spiderman knowledge is very little. I hadn't seen anything involved in this game and I'm glad I went in blind)
That scream fight is never ending 😂 in a good way
I lost my mind when they hinted at Cindy-Silk in that final cutscene. I hope they’re brave enough to explore a Silk storyline/playable character because she’s become my favorite character in recent comics.