The Most HATED Star Wars Lore EXPLAINED! (The Science of Midi-Chlorians)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Today, I do the unthinkable. Today I'm coming to the defense of Midi-Chlorians, perhaps the most hated facet of Star Wars lore, by unpacking all the real-world science behind it!
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Love this video. I personally don't have a problem with midi-chloroans, but you definitely explained it better than the actual movies did. And also explained away one of my biggest issues: the fact that everyone can learn The Force. Excellent work, my young Padawan.
As somebody who started with episode 1 but knew the broadstrokes of the orginal trilogy (the late 90s and early 2000s where a fun time to grow up) I have never seen much of an issue with this. I just kinda took it as world building showing that the galaxy had a scientific way of determining a mythical phenomenon. I honestly think it paints the setting more realistically because it shows that the galactic community has put effort into trying to understand the force and how it works and frankly makes it cooler because while they can see who is more sensitive to it they still can't fully explain it and that deepens the intangability, at least for me.
Akso helps they don’t say the force is produced by midichlorians instead they act as conduits to the living force
"I'm basically the Chosen One of eating cheese" goes unexpectedly hard.
Point of order, Jedi aren’t disallowed from having children, the Jedi code just forbids attachment. Anakin didn’t get in trouble for nailing Padme or having kids, it was the getting married part. Having secret families was in the old EU referred to as “pulling a Bindo”. Also the Jedi are total hypocrites about this because they allow Jedi master Ki-Adi-Mundi to have several wives because of low birth rates in his species- unrelated but almost literally everything bad that happens in the prequels is kind of his fault. In addition, the Jedi are not the only force sensitive organization even in the current canon.
Jedi are forbidden from marriage and emotional attachment, but that's not necessarily part of reproduction. Dispassionate reproduction would technically be allowed, but reproduction would likely raise concerns about the Jedi's ability to not be attached.
In the Prelude to Rebellion comics, Jedi Master Ki-Adi-Mundi is depicted as having permission from the Jedi Council to engage in his species practice of polygamy to help with low birth rates, and he had 7 offspring. Since a lack of attachment is a core aspect of Jedi philosophy, I think the most reasonable interpretation of this is that he was expected to not be attached to his wives and children -- the council's permission merely represents a trust that Mundi was capable of this, and the belief that preserving the species outweighed the risk of Mundi becoming attached.
I think that the issue with midichlorians is that they were introduced as an exposition tool, used once where they weren't that important, and then mostly forgotten. All of this in a trilogy that was already quite complex compared to the original. They were, in context, unnecessary.
If they were introduced in a book or short series discussing how the Jedi order recruits its members, or an attempt of scientists in setting to discover more about it (probably with the semi religious Jedi order fighting them on every step), it could've been cool. But as is, it feels bloated in context and I only find it enjoyable when analyzed out of context, for instance in a great RUclips video.
Dominant and Recessive are very oversimplified.
Genes can be a variety of dominance levels, with some traits being only suppressed by some traits of the same category, but others not (Blue Eyes are more recessive than brown eyes, but less than red eyes), some are dominant if other specific genes are present, but recessive if they are not, there's even some genes that are highly dominant, but if you have a completely unrelated gene controlling something else entirely, it is suddenly recessive.
Genetics are weird and sadly, like all of biology, refuses to fall into our neat little boxes.
Yeah, I've always actually liked Midichlorians.
I have never understood all the vitriol toward them. I think they're really cool and make a ton of sense.
(I also adore any form of biology wherever it comes from.)
I'd say the most ha ted Starwars lore is anything in the Acolyte.
Whenever I hear people talk about being lactose intolerant, then not being anymore, I think of this one video from The Thought Emporium where he genetically engineers himself to produce lactate again.
Normally I enjoy arguing with you in these comment sections but there’s a lot to like about this theory. We’re never explicitly told what the relationship is between midiclhorians and the force is, and as head canons go, this makes a lot of sense. You run into a few problems with things like inorganic matter being connected to the force, or non-carbon based life forms that wouldn’t have this kind of microfauna (see Iron Knights), but generally it checks a lot of boxes and it works thematically. To reinforce your point about force mastery being lost over time, exactly the same thing happens to Kyle Katarn in the events of Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast, and to a certain extent to Luke in the last Jedi. Used to be that to burn yourself out using the force you had to shove 17 star destroyers through space, not just do a force projection. And there’s evidence to back up the idea of laypeople being able to improve their connection with the force over time, the last scene of last Jedi implies that pretty heavily, although they kind of ignored that idea in the sequel, and a marginal force talent Tyria Sarkin Tainer managed to become a full Jedi knight on a much longer path with no formal teaching. There’s also something in the idea that using the force is more an issue of being able to perceive it, which is more or less how magic works in the Dresden File series and is a more satisfying answer than we usually have about the force as a magic system, which it functions as narratively. This way it’s more like how pigeons seem to have the ability to sense the earth’s magnetic field naturally or some animals being able to see in spectrums that humans can’t, the way shrimp do. There are of course other explanations that might work, but until we get a more definitive answer, this has a lot going for it.
Video on what keeps these free roaming fazbear animatronics moving? What a few "D"batteries ? 😉
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Omg mortis mentioned
Bro’s trying to be the new Matt patt with the punnet squares
I think Punnet Squares are a bit older than Matt Pat…
@@TheChiptidewho’s may pat?
great video, honestly i dont see a problem with the midi-chlorians themselves, only they are poorly explained, and i didnt even watch the movie, so....
Aliens become Sith and Jedi... and Jedi masters don't have corpses... science be getting hit hard also the force isn't hereditary it's part of the universe so it decides who is Jedi and Sith a deity like entity so yeah... magic like stuff
E X P A N Ding those topics
Ah, yes. The midichlorians. I'm a hardcore fan of Star Wars, yet I'm completely accept this addition to the lore. Midichlorians are based on the mitochondria. Same concept, it's just provides a different kind of energy than the real life counterparts. So if you hate midichlorians, you hate mitochondria, your cells' powerhouse. Hot take. Come at me haters, it only boosts the algorythm for this video and channel😊
Thank you for actually being a hardcore fan, most people will say they’re a hardcore fan of a franchise, AND YET THEY CHOOSE TO IGNORE THINGS THAT ARE AN IMPORTANT PART TO THE LORE OF THAT FRANCHISE WHICH MEANS THEY ARE NOT A HARDCORE FAN!!!!!! 😤😮💨 Sorry, I just needed to get that off my chest.
Same here. I was raised on Star Wars books (I would fall asleep to my mom reading the Jedi Academy series) and when I was 6 we went and watched Attack of the Clones on the big screen.
Needless to say, Star Wars is a significant part of my psychological foundation.
(It interwoven into the very core of my being)
If my family wants to explain a complicated concept quickly, we use a Star Wars reference! lol
It also encourages me to seek out and learn real science.
I wish to make real star ships, robots, orbital habitats, and yes, defensive and offensive tech. I haven’t made it that far yet, but I can dream. And I’ve even inspired others on their path towards similar dreams.
The midichlorians are paying you to say this, aren't they?
Don't forget that Mitochondria were likely separate cells that we absorbed,that's why they have their own DNA. Same applies to chloroplasts in plants. Turning light into energy feels pretty force adjacent, honestly
Edit: I think I would qualify as a Star Wars fan but I struggle to get into the fanbase. It's just a bunch of people complaining about how this doesn't work because of something in one comic 40 years ago that contradicts it or because George Lucas says the dark side is evil,the franchise isn't allowed to delve into more nuiance. It genuinely frustrates me seeing people say that kind of stuff because it feels like they're constricting what the series can do. Like,I've tried to get into Star Wars What Ifs but there's so much obscure stuff from so many places (this coming from a fnaf fan so you know it's bad) that it's hard to get into. Also,the fanbase seems to have a LOT of tories (British term for right wing people,not a compliment in most cases) compared to other fanbases. Don't mind midichlorians though
I don't mind them. Not like it would be changing any in the story. I'm a hardcore Star Wars fan, as hardcore as, I know almost every character and their origin story up to the films (except the sequel trilogy. That's the only media along with the streaming sevice exclusive series that I don't like and consider canon but that's another can of worm I'm not willing to open)
@@LastGoatKnight I agree,I like Midichlorians. I mean,plants have chloroplasts that were once their own creatures and can turn light into energy,that's not that far off
Mitochondria are based of the mitochondria, Matpad did a better video covering them. Chip here forgot that they're basically a mitochondria like microorginism that lives in cells, and that everyone has them. and the number you have isn't determined by hereditery and that they are passed down the maternal line.
@@elysainempire4628 I saw that video,that's why I brought it up here
Fun fact, if you fast for long enough, you can die if you get straight back to a normal diet. Thus, I wonder if someone who doesn't use the force at all could drop dead when they raise a rock or something similar.
Now I want to know, can you create a droid, filled with midichlorians, that can detect their fluctuations and potentially wield the force? I mean the force flows through everything, and if you give a bot a tool it can use...
I would think not, since the force only flows through and connects living things, droids, unless more of a biological android would be unable to access it
Kinda, look up Iron Knights
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The Midi-Chlorian is the Powerhouse of the Cell
Doing gods work with this comment o7
@@CaptainKrby LMAO thanks homie 😂
The issue with Midiclorians is that it _quantifies_ the force. This is a min/maxers wet fever dream. Being able to count your connection to the Force leaves it ripe for massive amounts of narrative abuse.
In the Phantom Menace, Qui Gon measured Anakin's midiclorian count and deduced that he had a stonger than normal connection, stronger than even Yoda. This one line opens the floodgates to all the possibilities that can occur. The idea that (more midi) = (more pwr!) fundamentally means that one can use science to harvest superpowers.
Midiclorians bring the Force into the realm of the physical, leaving it vulnerable to many, many, many unwarranted questions that George was never equipped to answer. Now that we know that Midiclorians tap into the Force and that more is better, tell me:
* Why don't the Jedi do blood tests on the Senate when they suspect a Sith? They don't even have to go through proper channels to do it legally, just Force trip every Senator and discreetly collect a sample from their scraped knee. Boom, Palpatine's behind it all!!!
*If more midi equals more better, can someone just filter out midi from other peoples' blood and inject themselves with more? If not, why not? Can you OD on midi?
*What's to stop the Kaminoans from synthesizing midi and cloning more of them to use on themselves? Would they be able to rule the galaxy then?
*Can midi be genetically altered? Can a crafty scientist take midiclorians and make Super Midiclorians? Then, take those Supers and make Hyper Midis? And again to make Ultra Midi Plus (with wings!) What kind of Force User would this process create? A god?
*Why not skip the middle man and splice the part of Midiclorians that allows them to use the Force and add it to a person's genome? Just create a human-midiclorian hybrid, then fill them to the brim with Ultra midi and watch them become a being beyond all measure, capable of tearing holes in the fabric of space and time, erasing the universe with a MERE THOUGHT!
**huff huff huff huff**
Or, let's go in the opposite direction and see if we can nerf the Jedi:
*If midi are living beings, can a poison be synthesized to specifically target them and them alone, creating a way to drive the species into extinction? Just no more Jedi, right?
*Since midi have a physicsl presence, can someone like Darth Vader target another's midiclorians and tear it it out of them, leaving behind a slab of crimson swiss cheese?
*What happens if you get defective midiclorians? Do you just do the Force wrong? Do you do uncontrollable spurts of the Force and accidently fling people out of windows?
*Do Midi live all throught the body? Like, does a Jedi piss midi everytime he uses the little spaceman's room? Or does it live in an organ, like the brain? Can't you just shoot that organ and take out every Jedi from afar with a sniper rifle? And if it doesn't and a Jedi dies, can the midi take over the bodily functions and puppet the body around of its own accord? Do they do a Space Weekend at Bernie's?
*Why not create a predatory micro organisms or virus that targets Force Users and aerosalize it? Qui Gon and Obi would be toast when the Droidika come for them, now that their midis are dead.
*If a Jedi needs a blood transfusion and most of their blood is replaced with another's, could they lose their powers? Or if they donate blood, do they just give some one else their powers? Can a Jedi who lost their powers drink another Jedi's blood and regain their powers?
*Are Force ghost just clouds of Midiclorians? If so, can someone destroy that cloud, effectively kill that same person twice? Can you capture a Force ghost, a la Ghostbusters, and forever trap them in a container that they can't escape from? Is that why Yoda never came to visit Luke on his island, because he feared Luke would snatch him and trap him in an impervious snow globe and shake him around really hard???
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Obviously, these questions are dumb, and I dont expect them to answered, but they are still valid and that is the problem. The Force is a stand-in for morality, a way to personifiy a character's internal struggle with good and evil. By giving in-universe access to the Force, by giving it form, it breaks its intended function. The internal has been made external.
Why didn't Obi Wan give the Rebels his blood so they could create an army of Jedi soldiers that all tackle the Death Star with Force Powers? Because that is not what the story is about. It's about courage and bravery in the face of overwhelming odds, about coming to terms with one's past and embracing one's future. It's about sacrifice and kinship against greed and exclusion.
What it's not about is "Who has the biggest number?" What is this, Dragonball?
People will say midichlorians take the fantasy away and make the force "too scientific" and I'm always so confused about that 😭 like my man this shit is as scientific as kyber crystals
Then people will be like "ooohhhh it dismistifies the force" and I'm like bitch you've swapped one """explanation""" for another
For the lactose intolerant example, my mom wasn't intolerant until after she had my sibling and I; so I wonder how the genes work in similar instances
The ending of Rogue One was rubbish - any sci-fi RP Gamer know that you can beat the odds. Jump whilst in atmosphere will probably result in instant death - but there is a chance that you could survive. If they had done that, with the good characters that they had put together during the movie - then they could have enbarked with new tales for a different part of the universe and no one would have said anything as nothing would have been encountered before. This is why the ending imo was rubbish
It's a better addition to the lore than the mortis trio
Can you do a video on Dragon Ball?
As a lactose intolerant Star Wars nerd, I love everything about this video!! I'm the kind of person that believes science and magic can coexist, so having people's Force sensitivities backed up by real world logic makes me really happy!! Great work as always, Chip!
A Star wars video? I'm here for it
I always thought it was pretty reasonable that with all the high futuristic tech of the world they would definitely have a way to quantify and measure force sensitivity
And additionly it would make sense they'd do it in the prequels era rather than original trilogy where the mention of jedi or sith is just crazy cult stuff of the past
when understanding kills your magic it deserves to die
I'd like to think that the general populace doesn't mind midi-chlorians as much these days, much like how a lot about the prequels are less hated these days.
the prequals were bad... until the force awakens came out.
@@guillermoelnino Interestingly episode VII is actually my favorite in the series! :3
@@DiamondzFinder_ of course it is...
@@guillermoelnino Roughly speaking, I don't want to irritate anyone. But, I get everywhere you go, people have their own opinions on things. Like sand! ;3
3:40 no it's not mitochondria litterally exists.