"Which Standard Weapon is good for you?" by a most sane genshin streamer

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  • @Zajef77
    @Zajef77 9 месяцев назад +169

    17 minutes of yapping just to be wrong TRUE

  • @redcloud7447
    @redcloud7447 9 месяцев назад +143

    I use lost prayers on my wanderer and it’s amazing. He’s probably the best user of it

    • @ryanchong4372
      @ryanchong4372 9 месяцев назад +1

      alternatively, i use skyward atlas on wanderer. its doing fine for him so far but i may be running a bit too much attack on him (2.3k without buffs)

    • @vincetan8449
      @vincetan8449 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@ryanchong43722.3k is perfectly fine. artif, faru, and possibly furina as dmg% sources would accentuate your atk even post ben buffs. dont worry you dont have "too much"

    • @anshnanavati
      @anshnanavati 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@ryanchong4372no such thing as too much atk until you get wayyy more. 2.3k is a really good amount.

    • @krummesblech
      @krummesblech 9 месяцев назад +18

      Wriothesley is also really good with Lost Prayer

    • @NobleLaika
      @NobleLaika 9 месяцев назад +1

      Ballad of the Boundless Blue gang rise up😭

  • @luminous3558
    @luminous3558 9 месяцев назад +62

    Its kinda odd how the fontaine craftables kinda got talked down at reveal but now are like F2P BiS on multiple units. Like Song of Stillness is Fischl's best weapon outside reaction teams and beats stringless at early refines.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 9 месяцев назад +4

      The crafted claymore at R5 is crazy as well, for an atk stat stick. Super easy to meet its condition, especially with Furina in the mix leading to more healers being used. Which makes the atk% 5 star claymores less appealing, though WGS does still have its team buffing factor.

    • @tai_af
      @tai_af 9 месяцев назад

      people dont talk about Fontaine craftables for some reason, still they can really add a lot for f2p players. I used to have Kaeya (freeze) with Isshin but now I'm using R3 Finale of the Deep and it gives SO MUCH stats and your only requirement is having a healer on the team. I myself use Jean and works perfectly. I'm so happy for the upgrade, can't wait to get another sword billet to make it R4.

    • @elina1421
      @elina1421 9 месяцев назад +11

      "ourside reaction teams" and "beats stringless at early refines" still doesn't sound amazing imma be honest

  • @reolevi8419
    @reolevi8419 9 месяцев назад +62

    Truly the greatest zyox channel of all time

  • @thechadford8572
    @thechadford8572 9 месяцев назад +82

    Bennett needs so much ER, Skyward Blade feels a lot better than Aquila.
    As for Skyward Spine, it's fantastic for Shenhe. She needs the highest possible Attack and ER. It benefits her buff far more than Fav.

    • @TheColdestplay
      @TheColdestplay 9 месяцев назад +14

      agree, aquila is just cope and not worth it compared to the extra comfort blade provides for the price of like 65 base atk, with aquila you need a lot of ER subststats which can be hard to find if youre on instructor and I would generally recommend it over aquila to any new(er) player that has both options.

    • @dogo523
      @dogo523 9 месяцев назад +1

      For shenhe this is true but then you wont be running fav

    • @TheColdestplay
      @TheColdestplay 9 месяцев назад +14

      @@dogo523 most shenhes do not have 50+ crit rate to support fav and even then its not consistent and barely worth it to go for crit rate subs when you could get more atk% and ER instead. and dont cope with your 20crit rate shenhe that procs fav once per region

    • @vincikeeper1581
      @vincikeeper1581 9 месяцев назад +1

      Good to know, I have Skyward Spine for future Shenhe.

    • @lyg483
      @lyg483 9 месяцев назад +5

      @@TheColdestplay I use Aquila since day 1 with Bennet and I never had ER issues, I just slapped every Nobblese ER thing I have and problem solve, since Bennet's ult doesn't scale with Artifact's atk

  • @vict632
    @vict632 9 месяцев назад +4

    Wolf's Gravestone is trash tier because I still haven't got a single one to drop after all these years 😭

  • @idk-sy3iu
    @idk-sy3iu 9 месяцев назад +33

    The thing about aquila is that sapwood exists which still has really high base atk but an actually good stat for Bennett + an actually good passive IF you are in a dendro team

    • @krummesblech
      @krummesblech 9 месяцев назад +13

      Aquila really just sucks, the only thing it does for Bennett is the High Base Atk, everything else is completely useless.
      As soon as you play with Dendro on the team, Sapwood is better and for ER hungry teams, Skyward Blade is also better.

    • @Refugee-o8u
      @Refugee-o8u Месяц назад

      Who use bennett on dendro team

  • @paulskiye6930
    @paulskiye6930 9 месяцев назад +14

    Aquila: Bennett/physical Keqing
    Harp:Stats stick and best for Sara buff, and good in general for bow users
    Spine: second option for Shenhe?
    Amos:Ganyu
    Wolfs: good in general, but not specific or specialised enough.
    Others: more likely stats stick

    • @MarmotLord182
      @MarmotLord182 9 месяцев назад +13

      askers: none

    • @christophobia6415
      @christophobia6415 9 месяцев назад

      @@MarmotLord182I asked

    • @leka2095
      @leka2095 9 месяцев назад +9

      if anyone is playing physical keqing in 2023, they're entitled to financial compensation and free therapy

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 9 месяцев назад +7

      Aint no way anyones using Physical Keqing when Yaoyao/Keqing/Fischl/Sucrose exists

    • @andrewias2017
      @andrewias2017 9 месяцев назад

      As a physical Keqing player, Blade > Aquila, Blade’s passive with an atk circlet does more damage due to how the passive works with autos.

  • @Ivy-jq6di
    @Ivy-jq6di 9 месяцев назад +34

    Used to use skyward spine on Raiden before I turned her into a hyperbloom trigger. It's a decent weapon.

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 9 месяцев назад

      That's just skyward in general. It has good enough stats, and a nice dose of ER, so handy for plenty of off-fielders. So if the rest of your team doesn't need Fav for energy, well, you might as well kill things faster, so that you don't need to always be relying on favs for energy ;)

  • @capperbuns
    @capperbuns 9 месяцев назад +19

    I used Skyward Pride in my Eula, and it was very good, the Er made me focus on crit and atk more. Which helps

    • @alfredbarretto
      @alfredbarretto 9 месяцев назад +5

      It also looks good on her

    • @jeevieseverino3949
      @jeevieseverino3949 9 месяцев назад

      Also the passive benefits to physical dps. Its just overall dmg boost even if the final explosion is weak. The physical vacuum blades plus 100 burst uptime puts her dmg on top.

    • @thor9142
      @thor9142 9 месяцев назад

      Why not the craftable from Dragonspine , it gives Phy dmg bonus

    • @mdma4u2
      @mdma4u2 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@thor9142it is not that great on her, while skyward can be her in her top 3 if you don't have enough er in artifacts

    • @kingsimba9513
      @kingsimba9513 9 месяцев назад

      ​@alfredbarretto its looks turbo dog, nothing compares to SoBP COPEEE HARDERR NOOB EULA MAIN

  • @chrisgonzales5335
    @chrisgonzales5335 9 месяцев назад +10

    Skyward spine is pretty good on raiden. I use it on her since the catch is on xiangling, and it does respectable damage imo

  • @walter1824
    @walter1824 9 месяцев назад +3

    Diminishing returns, with Skyward my Wanderer has literally 5000 ATK after all the buffs and he hits around 40-42k normals but Lost Prayer would let him reach 50k

  • @cracuss31n52
    @cracuss31n52 9 месяцев назад +3

    As an old genshin player I genuinely didn't know that AMOS is in standard

  • @tliehfloyd9201
    @tliehfloyd9201 9 месяцев назад +3

    l take skyward spine is so underrated and good. bunch of stats even crit stat stick to some little degree. it does everything youd need and helps you tune out small missing stats in your build.

  • @Zer0Hour17
    @Zer0Hour17 9 месяцев назад +4

    I don’t know if it’s a hot take, but I’d rather run skyward than Aquilla on Bennett. I’d rather have a lower buff with a ton of ER

    • @Wolf-vy7et
      @Wolf-vy7et 9 месяцев назад

      Not a hot take, it's actually better than Aquilla for Bennet imo.

    • @kanyeeast7287
      @kanyeeast7287 9 месяцев назад

      It's easy to have a ton of ER substats on your artifs no?

    • @Zer0Hour17
      @Zer0Hour17 9 месяцев назад +6

      @@kanyeeast7287 Nothing about getting what you want on an artifact is easy.

  • @JayDamaso78
    @JayDamaso78 9 месяцев назад +17

    Blade is better on Bennett than Favonia

  • @kingdoom5022
    @kingdoom5022 9 месяцев назад +6

    Skyward blade is straight up better for Bennett than aquila , its gives so much ER , giving that much ER allow you to use instructor on Bennett which is a huge DPS buff

  • @liathelie8805
    @liathelie8805 9 месяцев назад +3

    I've got my 3rd amos from the standard banner recently. I wanted to cry

    • @liathelie8805
      @liathelie8805 9 месяцев назад +2

      (all are from standard)
      I do have ganyu but as a welkin-only player I don't want to refine it

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 9 месяцев назад +1

      Wow!!! You got an Amos for all 3 Charged bow users!!!

    • @liathelie8805
      @liathelie8805 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@MrcreeperDXD777 but I don't have Tighnari nor Lyney 😭 only Ganyu

  • @MrcreeperDXD777
    @MrcreeperDXD777 9 месяцев назад +1

    Me who's only pulled Amos and two Skyward blades:

  • @Icredivm
    @Icredivm 9 месяцев назад

    This might be the best Twitch-Zyox I've seen ever since Genshin was a thing.
    I prefer RUclips-Zyox over Twitch-Zyox most nights on the internet, but this might be the closest we ever got to RUclips-Zyox on Twitch

  • @andris404
    @andris404 7 месяцев назад

    Lost players in the best weapon when you play in coop

  • @manuelmiddleton1446
    @manuelmiddleton1446 9 месяцев назад +5

    i got amos bow this week on the standard and i have no idea if its better than literally any other option for any character that isn't ganyu

    • @txkisvki5824
      @txkisvki5824 9 месяцев назад +2

      lyney can use it

    • @itzpurple_queen9711
      @itzpurple_queen9711 9 месяцев назад +2

      It’s also good on Lyney and Tighnari if you don’t have their signature

    • @MrcreeperDXD777
      @MrcreeperDXD777 9 месяцев назад +1

      I was lucky to pull Amos Bow after i got Ganyu

    • @lawfulgoodnun1646
      @lawfulgoodnun1646 9 месяцев назад +1

      Amber signature weapon

    • @idk-sy3iu
      @idk-sy3iu 9 месяцев назад

      Lyney I guess and tighnari even if it's not that great for him

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 9 месяцев назад +1

    lost prayer would be A - S tier if you swap out the stacks would linger for some time and would restack itself when you on field them again

  • @pichujiggs153
    @pichujiggs153 9 месяцев назад +3

    I spent an insane amount of time looking at kqm weapon rankings just to argue that LPSW --> Atlas only to realize that he changes his mind at the very end. Om

    • @caknores7897
      @caknores7897 9 месяцев назад

      I was confused when he said atlas is better than lost prayer, it feels like he's coping or something

    • @pichujiggs153
      @pichujiggs153 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@caknores7897 I mean he does have 3 atlas’s and no lost prayers so him coping makes sense

  • @thegreatBarbossa
    @thegreatBarbossa 8 месяцев назад

    "Aquila would be good if we had a physical dps sword user"
    Are we just gonna ignore the GOAT phys dps Qiqi?

  • @petachad8463
    @petachad8463 9 месяцев назад +2

    My first 5* weapon as a f2p was WGS and its good on beidou and diluc, and I hope(suske) it will be good on navia 🗿🗿.

    • @user-rm3itr40rnd
      @user-rm3itr40rnd 9 месяцев назад

      I wonder if Inazuma's craftable great sword would be good on Navia. It has ER substat, gives additional flat energy for her ult and some damage bonus for her skill (which is main source of Navia's damage).

  • @TheTranquilMadness
    @TheTranquilMadness 9 месяцев назад

    Aquilla won’t come home because it knows I want to give it to Jean

  • @Defi4nc3s1
    @Defi4nc3s1 9 месяцев назад

    Skyward Pride is truely usable by Eula:
    Since it increase damage by % and effect is physical.
    Downside is that you still lack crit stat, physical boost and are required to open with burst to activate the secondary effect.
    Itto benifit from it by having 8% more damage. The blade effect is not boosted since you are not building physical, but his high attack speed and burst opening can compensate.
    Wolfgravestone is good for Itto if you don't have other alternative options, it gives alot of atk... ATK on Itto is not a lost stat, its just less valuable. DEF give him scaling, dmg and durability.
    Try use bennet in Itto teams? His ATK buff gives Itto huge amount of ATK = dmg aswell.. WGS is simillar. Probably behind Serpent spine, but a good stat stick. Refinements are great aswell.
    WGS on Eula is ok by anymeans but she is ment for one-shot so probably any physical can outperform it.

  • @Rell559
    @Rell559 9 месяцев назад

    My raiden has the same burst damage (79k without any buffs) between skyward spine and r5 catch so i usually just equip raiden with spine so that her E would crit more often making more dmg while catch is equipped on xiangling. At first i was wierded out cuz i thought that the catch would do more dmg because of the 32% burst dmg but then soon found out that it's technically just the same lol

  • @Xannah
    @Xannah 9 месяцев назад

    Me watching this while only getting amos bow 5 times from standard banner and nothing else ._.

  • @maestroakib
    @maestroakib 9 месяцев назад +1

    Navia is coming to save WGS. Also, Lost Prayer is better for on-fielder/main DPS (ex. Wriothesley) and Skyward Atlas is better for off-fielder/sub DPS (ex. Yae)

    • @Axterix13
      @Axterix13 9 месяцев назад

      Nah, she's won't save it. You'll use Unforged over it, and if you want Navia to have higher attack, an R5 Fontaine crafted claymore will probably be the better route to go, unless you forgo healers on the team.

  • @andrewias2017
    @andrewias2017 9 месяцев назад

    The skyward weapons are fantastic when you think about covering all of a character’s bases. Blade is perfect for Bennett and physical builds (sometimes better than Aquila), Pride is perfect for Eula and Beidou, Spine is perfect for Shenhe. Harp is in a weird spot because it’s not amazing on anyone, but it’s a great generalist weapon. Not sure what Atlas is good for tbh.

    • @Reclusive_
      @Reclusive_ 9 месяцев назад +2

      i recently got atlas and its an insane stat stick on anyone who needs atk (ningguang, wanderer, yae miko, etc). It makes crit value a bit lower on your builds but its very good if you play a team without many external atk buffs!

    • @ziq1292
      @ziq1292 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Reclusive_ with atlas you can change your timepiece to any other stat than atk% so yeah like yae miko you can just put em timepiece on her because atlas gives tons of atk%

  • @justthatguynico
    @justthatguynico 7 месяцев назад

    Skyward Pride is justified by solo geo navia lol😂

  • @letherobr3178
    @letherobr3178 9 месяцев назад

    My man literally want "No, but this shitty 5 star, if you imagine this hipoteticall scenario that im inventing and wouldnt realistic happen, and if it did this weapon still wont be a good option, is a good option"

    • @AnuxeL
      @AnuxeL 9 месяцев назад +1

      What scenario did he mention that feels unrealistic to you?

  • @4ngryLumine
    @4ngryLumine 9 месяцев назад +1

    Yeah harp crit rate with plus 20 crit damage what else we want

    • @paulskiye6930
      @paulskiye6930 9 месяцев назад

      Plus highest attack for Sara xD

  • @tjalarun
    @tjalarun 9 месяцев назад

    Actually a sane Zyox clip love it!!!

  • @isyf1523
    @isyf1523 9 месяцев назад

    Bennett is better with Skyward ngl, you can risk like 80 atk buff for that massive ER boost is insane, specially as the only buff that you could call worth is the 25% atk and the 4% crit rate, so as Bennett is not a dps he won't take advantage of the first one a lot. Also, physical damage is meaningless specially if you get him C6 (considering he is not even the best for Eula teams, who is the only viable physical damage dealer in the current state of the game without stupid set ups or expensive builds, there is no real drawback to it).

  • @LuckyLucifer25
    @LuckyLucifer25 9 месяцев назад

    I keep getting wolf's gravestone I have r5 of it. But I don't have any other standard banner weapons

  • @brianna2352
    @brianna2352 9 месяцев назад

    Of course, I get every Skyward weapon except the bow and sword 😊

  • @6235river
    @6235river 9 месяцев назад

    i got three skyward weapons in the span of 40 wishes and haven't leveled any of them except harp but man... what kind of luck is that lmao

  • @xQuote
    @xQuote 9 месяцев назад

    Yeah bro Lost Prayer is great until you have r5 lost prayer and almost any dps 5 star catalyst.

  • @theespecificocean
    @theespecificocean 9 месяцев назад

    I still want a Skyward Harp...

  • @kwayke9
    @kwayke9 9 месяцев назад

    We all know PJWS is better than r6 Homa, it is the tallest spear after all

  • @tariqwazir09
    @tariqwazir09 9 месяцев назад

    literally just got skyward pride but idk man i already have gravestone and i have blackcliff on beidou

  • @AnishKumar-wp6mg
    @AnishKumar-wp6mg 9 месяцев назад

    He is so normal

  • @Toqrainbow
    @Toqrainbow 9 месяцев назад +4

    skyward spine xiao players rise up 🥲

    • @Im_NotSure
      @Im_NotSure 9 месяцев назад +6

      bro just buy blackcliff 😭😭

    • @Bugingas
      @Bugingas 9 месяцев назад

      @@Im_NotSure sorry bucko, blackcliff is for dongli and my xiao is using dad's spear (vortex)

  • @mtsds7801
    @mtsds7801 9 месяцев назад

    It is funny talk about it, I have r2 ammos and I just made it R2 brcause there is literally no char that I was going to build besided ganyu that is going to use it, and no, I will never summon for another charged attack archer.

  • @damnumonkeyballs
    @damnumonkeyballs 9 месяцев назад

    First tall, now sane... I'm starting not belive these claims.

  • @sensibleDuck893
    @sensibleDuck893 9 месяцев назад

    I have got like 3 Jade Spears from Standard and i don't have a Xiao 🥲🥲

  • @alfredbarretto
    @alfredbarretto 9 месяцев назад

    I got amos on standard and 18 pulls later i got skyward harp.l on standard banner also. My luck is so random now my yelan ganyu tignari can do meme buulds and stamdard builds. I might pull for guture archer dps soon. So far i have 3 bows 5 star

  • @Leshy_
    @Leshy_ 9 месяцев назад +1

    Why is skyward spine high in the tierlist, it should be deleted

  • @Eeveetrix0908
    @Eeveetrix0908 9 месяцев назад

    I have R4 Wolf's Gravestone 😂

  • @blakedout
    @blakedout 9 месяцев назад +1

    I have an r2 Skyward Pride that I got early in the game. Kinda regret refining it now since I have Freminet now and I’ve had it on Beidou for years
    Now I just want Wolf’s Gravestone (I have unforged but I like wgs design more), Aquila for Bennett and skyward harp.
    Atlas is meh and I already have 2 lpsw (1 r1 and 1 r2). Skyward Blade is meh as well, fav exists. And I already have skyward spine which is waiting for Raiden.
    And I don’t think I need a 3rd jade spear.
    Amos.. I have Hunter’s path.

  • @giorgostrim3709
    @giorgostrim3709 9 месяцев назад

    I mean i get the healer bennet build if he is used in a Furina team but like wouldnt noblesse be better to buff Xiangling and Xingqui? And just go hp er healing bonus?

  • @Farisss11
    @Farisss11 9 месяцев назад

    harp is the best imo, followed by either wgs or pjws
    and i dont have harp yet, have r3 pjws and r2 wgs lmao

    • @Balls3829
      @Balls3829 9 месяцев назад

      I got 2 Aquilas lmfao 😭 I just want harp/ either catalysts

  • @janerishbaluca1529
    @janerishbaluca1529 9 месяцев назад +1

    Lost prayers will only be better than Skyward on On-field DPS that don't scale with attack (like Neuvi).

  • @naksu6344
    @naksu6344 9 месяцев назад

    is the additional base atk from aquila worth it over just using sapwood blade which has a decent base atk and er?

    • @tonydai782
      @tonydai782 9 месяцев назад +2

      Yes, because Bennett basically only cares about Base Atk and ER.
      You can get more ER in your artifacts, but Base Atk is exclusive to weapons.

  • @marcomafr2
    @marcomafr2 9 месяцев назад

    WHAT is bro YAPPING about

  • @xBlade173
    @xBlade173 9 месяцев назад

    Truly a terrible tier list by my 3rd fav genshin enjoyer

  • @Emilio_Valadez
    @Emilio_Valadez 9 месяцев назад

    chills

  • @lostblueboy
    @lostblueboy 9 месяцев назад

    this is the most adhd tier list I have ever seen. Weapons change tiers as if they are a rollercoaster.

    • @user-rm3itr40rnd
      @user-rm3itr40rnd 9 месяцев назад +1

      at least this is one of rare tierlists that seems fair. Zy0x didn't just blatantly put weapons on tiers just because he think so. He discussed the placement with chat and with new arguments keep changing it until everything got settled down. Some cc's making tierlists should learn from that.

  • @sweetea6550
    @sweetea6550 9 месяцев назад

    most non crit weapo is trash

  • @rodneycasilac4603
    @rodneycasilac4603 9 месяцев назад

    aquilla is bad let's face it skyward blade is so much better for bennet than aquilla.

    • @dominustempus8969
      @dominustempus8969 9 месяцев назад

      I don't know my bennet gets enough energy even though he's running aquila. I like the bigger base atk more.

    • @rodneycasilac4603
      @rodneycasilac4603 9 месяцев назад

      @@dominustempus8969 i kinda fall short if i use aquilla on him even with ER sands and kazuha has r5 xiphos. I want something like a xinqiu experience where he just gets the energy he needs off the bat. That 60 something base attack will not make much difference when it comes to snapshotting with xiangling. If i want to make him main DPS I slap mistplitter though, but if I use him as a support I put skyward on him as my rotations take precedence over individual damage.

    • @min_says_h3110
      @min_says_h3110 9 месяцев назад +2

      Literally run Bennett with Aquila and just focus on er stats, it’s so easy to run him on er. Aquila is amazing on him and skyward is just grief if you somehow can’t roll a “bad stat”

    • @dominustempus8969
      @dominustempus8969 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@rodneycasilac4603 The additional base attack doesn't just affect his personal damage. It also affects xiangling and your other team with noticeable difference