How Worried Should Democrats Be About The Polls? | FiveThirtyEight Politics Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
- The presidential candidates are trying to crowd us out of the polling analysis business with their own takes on the polls! In this installment of the 538 Politics podcast, the crew assesses whether President Joe Biden's dismissal of polls because of declining response rates is fair.
They also reexamine a viral poll from late last year that suggested 20 percent of young Americans think the Holocaust is a myth. It turned out to likely be bogus. And they preview Tuesday's primary in Ohio that will determine which Republican runs against Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown.
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I'm sorry, if they're lying about being licensed to operate a nuc sub, why on earth would you trust their responses on race?
The skew of Hispanic population is too statistically significant, unless of course Hispanic is a separate question as usual, in which case the bots may be spamming first responses
@@bwal9374 Hispanic (Yes/No) is almost always a separate question in these polls, and Yes is the first option. So I think the demographic breakdown is misleading
Do Americans never compare themselves with other countries? Do they never look at other countries?
Almost all rich countries had a good economy development in the years before covid and have struggled afterwards. Several European countries have had recession periods after covid. And the economic growth is far behind US in the post covid years.
Even in my country, Norway, which has a good economy because of a very big oil production per capita ( x 10 US ), the prices have gained more than wages in the post covid years.
I am stunned that 538 never brings this up.
I think Biden did not take into consideration the fact we were coming back from Covid,and completely changed our energy policies. We have been on a downward spiral since. He tried changing too much too soon...
Fivethirtyeight constantly brings that up. And all of those countries have a bad economy for the same reason that we do, too much money printing and not working enough during the pandemic…which was the Democrats platform so Biden has earned this economy!
Yeah, we suffer from general miseducation and exceptionalism that makes people feel like other countries are irrelevant. But also the media rarely talks about this stuff, in headlines or obvious glaring ways. Obviously we should have way more international news, among other things. ARGH
@@markaisenberg6641huh? the democrats weren’t pro-not-working, and Republicans under Trump voted for the same kinds of legislation. But inflation hit when Russia invaded Ukraine; suddenly big oil decided they could charge way more
@@onelemonadestandI think you haven’t traveled much. America IS EXCEPTIONAL!
What about the "red wave" in 2022?
Another alternate explanation is that there are bots responding under the identity that they are young, hispanic, and licensed in everything.
Right? What is the pay scale? I'll sign up, (I'm a young Hispanic under 30)
Why is everyone ignoring the context of the "bloodbath" comment?! He was talking about how China was going to destroy our automotive industry if he loses. He was talking about an economic "bloodbath".
I'm not a Trump fan by any stretch, but why lie about the context and make it out like he was talking about actual violence?!
Same reason they ignore the "good people on both sides" comment. Lying and propaganda
The term has been widely used by politicians, news hosts and pundits for years.
That "context" was added *after* he was called out on it
you are a Trump fan
Were there not some very recent polls that now show Biden ahead of Trump? Not by much, but still ahead.
Yep. Hope he can keep it up till next November 5. Won't be pretty, but I'll gladly take it even if Biden gets only 270 evs (the minimum needed to win without the House of Representatives getting involved). Posting 3-23-24.
@@TheBrooklynbodine Biden's basically in a statistical tie in these new national polls, and running behind in some very important swing states like Michigan and Arizona. Plus you have RFKs spoiler campaign to contend with. Looks like he might pull more support from Biden than Trump. This could be more like 2016 than 2020. And you know what happened in 2016.
Yeah, but that doesn’t make for a good podcast. They never mention the mid terms and special elections.
💪 “...bogus polls, or bogus respondents?” 💯💯
If you're trying to pass off bogus responses as legitimate, then you are a bogus poll. Buck has to stop with you
Your bloodbath quote is out of context
What was out of context?
@@elleaubry3772 he said bloodbath for the car industry if Biden lets China built cars in Mexico ship across the US border tax free.
Trump doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt. He said it will be a bloodbath for the country so that’s what he meant. This is the man who incited an insurrection. He knows what he was doing
@@doge8825Apparently the people in Michigan heard the actual quote, the polls for Trump spiked in Michigan since the main stream ran with the “bloodbath” quote. Trump is a genius of manipulating the the press.
@elleaubry3772 trump was talking about the automotive industry potentially collapsing if China was allowed to outsource manufacturing to mexico. He never called for violence. That is the context.
Google is literally free. The full speech is available all over RUclips. Do literally the bare minimum of research instead of waiting to be told what to think.
Worried but not panicking. Yet. Pollsters could be worried about their polls being off/underestimating or overestimating
One of the questions they ask in these online polls is something like "Are you of Hispanic or Latin origin (yes/no), so it would be easy for people who are always picking the first answer to be classified as Hispanic.
Maybe a better poll is small donor campaign contributions
do the pollsters have caller ID that identifies them as such? I won’t pick up a random number but would if it was a poll…I’m
Sure that could become problematic too tho
not worried about the polls. you shouldn't be worried either.
This is why I don't trust politics and the government in general
I’m fed up with both parties. One is lost. The other is broken.
I don't know who they're polling??? 54,never been polled!!
That's irrelevant that you have never been polled. That is true because the number of people polled is always very tiny.
@@TheBeatle49 Maybe irrelevant to u,I speak for myself!
The polls are under estimating the Democrats, as was the case in the last midterm election; previously, it was the Republicans, that were under estimated.
Polls also underestimated Trump in 2016 and 2020. 2020 had Trump very under estimated especially in state-level results.
You're right. They're actually worse
The real question is how worried are pollsters about there polls being so far off for years? They should be because I just Unsubscribed and won't be paying any attention to polls anymore.
2022 polls were basically perfect...
@@chemicalfrankie1030 are those the same polls that said there'd be a red wave?
@chemicalfrankie1030 were those the same polls that said there'd be a red wave?
@@chemicalfrankie1030no they overestimated Republicans by quite a bit in general. Except in NY they underestimated … but never super accurate
They've not been "far off" for years. Historically speaking, they're not getting worse. 2016 was actually pretty fine. 2020 was a bit worse, but not worse than 1996, for example. They were good in 2008 and, at state level (but not so much at a presidential national level) they nailed 2012.
In individual cases they may be off (i.e. FLA in 2020, or Michigan primary polls in 2016). But, overall, polls are just fine.
Re: the Holocaust survey...What about brigading? On any question covering Jewish issues, it's easy to imagine anti-Semitic brigading.
To what extent are polls taken within a US state more accurate than a national poll? Would extrapolating the poll results for each state into a national prediction be better? Supposedly looking at the local outcomes can examine better the changes that might be fogged by taking a national poll. The next election could be over a few thousand votes won or lost to get the electoral college vote and understanding where the polling really matters will focus the psephology. I imagine your attention will be ultimately on those key states and what could decide a very acrimonious general election. I hope to see your forensic skills in play and bring into relief those essential states that could swing by a cats whisker of votes. Kind regards, Graham.
State level polling is more accurate because there is no national vote.
Isn't the lizardman constant already a thing?
I mean, it makes complete sense, but it's not a completely new thing, and I'd thought that pollsters would've already thought of that.
Lizardman constant is about 4%; the nuclear sub operators are 12% and 24% of Hispanics, so that's much higher for that kind of poll.
Not worried. 100 people who answer rheir landline, or online polls. Methodology is important
More blood bath lies
Trump is the most honest man in America. He cannot tell a lie. He is faithful to all his wives. And pays all his bills. He is the closest thing we have to the Messiah. Trump 2024.
I was disappointed in polls in 2020 there was supposed to be a blue wave and in 2022 there was supposed to be a red wave. Both were wrong close to the election.
I don’t think voters have collective amnesia so much as a willful ignorance. They’re expressing their dissatisfaction and frustration with Biden by projecting their desires onto an imaginary, idealized version of Trump that has never existed in reality.
Except for Trump’s presidency before C.
We were ALL better off and that’s what they remember.
Biden ran in 2020, to the extent he ran on anything from his basement, on returning "normalcy" to the Presidency. That was his promise. Voters can see that he has utterly and completely failed to deliver on that promise. By almost every objective standard, the country and, indeed, the world, was better off with Trump as President than it is under Biden. The two exceptions I can think of are the record stock market- which, when records were set regularly under Trump, Progressives told us that was a bad thing because it was just 'the evil Rich getting richer'- and unemployment- and we've actually done not much more than replaced the jobs lost during COVID as opposed to actually created new jobs.
@@jenntipis an example of this.
@@Jacaerys1 Yes because the IRS and recent Fed reports are completely false and only your opinion counts🙄🤦♀️
@@Jacaerys1 Yes because all financial reports from the gov are wrong and only your opinion matters. 🙄🤦♀️
I'm from the great state of Ohio I'll be voting blue down ballad....
*Ballot
Sherrod Brown for senate!
We HAVE to. DeWine just endorsed Trump AFTER the bloodbath speech and he is going to campaign for one of the maga senate candidates
Wrong, Dewine did not endorse Trump instead said he would focus on local elections, Also Dewine endorsed the non Maga candidate Matt Dolan, the Maga candidate is Bernie Moreno who Trump endorsed@@Tinasburrito666
You’re part of the problem and not the solution.
Don't worry about your jobs. You are so honest and do such a good job who could read replace you. How could any sane person doubt or even think about replacing you? As to joe don't worry about him for one second. Joe doesn't need the polls or voters either. Remember joe has ballot stuffers, he'll be just fine.
When is the electoral vote projection tool for the 2024 election projected to be up?
Too bad they don't consider the lagging effect of a global pandemic directly. Do any poll-sters ask who they think would handle another pandemic better?
In practically every one of the past 3-4 Presidential elections, I always monitor 538’s little polling average graph, and every single year, the two lines always end up switching places as the election approaches.
I’m just not terribly concerned about the polling when it’s this far out, in an election cycle that’s this unique, with a President who’s facing very unique and unprecedented challenges from literally every angle. I feel like a lot of respondents are just “punishing” Biden right now, but will show up at the polls and either enthusiastically or begrudgingly vote for Biden.
I don’t think we’re headed for another 2016 where disgruntled voters, candidate apathy, election cycle exhaustion and scandal after scandal caused people to stay home, and allowed Trump to squeak by a massively shocking upset win in the electoral college, despite losing to his opponent. I just cannot believe that, collectively, we are *that* stupid, to repeat the exact same mistakes again. I refuse.
I understand where you're coming from, and yet a fair chunk of the country really is that... ideologically skewed, shall we say
MAGA
Very little. That's how worried dems should be. Focus on actual elections.
Yea you should
Sorry, but almost nobody answers unknown numbers on their phones these days, especially young people. Why are you asking people employed by pollsters this question? Why would anyone find their answers useful? If someone can explain, please do.
After trump picks a running mate and weve had another month or two of polls, then i will maybe kind of consider polls. Until then its just a talking point.
The new Ann Selzer poll came out and has Trump +7!!!!
Aaaaaand now i know i dont have to take yall seiously. Even a 5 minute fact check would show you the blood bath comment was trump talking about the automotive industry
My life, my future, was TRASHED under Trump and I lost pretty much everything in 2020.
Under Biden, my life has got back on track, I'm making and saving more money than I've ever been able to, and I have real reasons to count on that continuing.
I get that inflation sucks and the housing market sucks and wages aren't keeping up, but for me, life is better under Biden.
You can't blame your own actions on anyone but yourself. The fact remains that every single metric under Biden is worse. Not just the economy, but everything. More cultural divide. Societal decay on a massive scale. Open borders, which is disastrous on every level. More wars. More covid deaths. Higher crime. Higher taxes. More governmental spending. Literally, everything is worse. I'm not sure what kind of mental gymnastics you'd need to jump through to think Biden is better. He's objectively not.
In terms of agree/disagree polls which offer you to self report your demo data, how are they physically orientated? The vast majority I've ever seen show age brackets youngest to oldest, race listed by commonality of white at the top, and then ethnicity as either Hispanic or Non-Hispanic. If bots or people are filling these out, if all the answers have a standard order of agree then disagree, it's make alot of sense that the top options would be chosen straight down the line resulting in the phenomenon they just described. Polling this far out from the election isn't a good predictor, but it is a good measure of enthusiasm when you look at response rates, especially for polls that take time and effort to complete. Biden's entire campaign is the same as last time against Trump, "Trump is evil, you have no other choice to vote for me." Absent any commentary on the truth of that, it isnt a message that inspires much enthusiasm. I have no data on how much that can bias polls or by what margin, but there is that. Also, the liberal mindset of "Oh, cold calls are still the most representative, it just takes more." is quite suspect. It isn't just that young people are significantly less likely to pick up unknown numbers, they're also significantly more likely to have installed spam blockers on their phones. Question this leaves is, so what type of young person doesn't have a spam blocker, and answers an unknown number and completes a 20 min phone poll. Whelp, it disproportionately won't be lower-middle class or poorer individuals as we have something called jobs so we don't become homeless. It won't be the progressives like me who hate Biden but hate Fascism and our trans-friends/family being murdered more so we'll be voting for him, but aren't gonna waste a nonsense amount of time on a phone call. I'd say those under 30 who answer and complete the calls are those who were successfully indoctrinated into the brain rot of the older generations who answer the phones disproportionately often. Given that the older generation skews Trump, it'd be expected that the younger generations who inheranted the values and behaviors will, for the most part, be reflective of that. I don't think the failure of the Red Wave in '22 proves all polling is trite, but it does show that there is an endemic problem with polling younger generations-dont get it twisted either, it was the increase turnout of younger generations to protect women's rights in '22 that is the primary reason we didn't have a Red Tsunami.
Also, the statement of, "Well the farther out we are, the bigger margin of error." Well, duh. However, we look to polling to make reasonable inferences to the future. The every day American when they see a poll that says Trump Leads Biden, doesn't go and ask, "Oh what was the sample size, demo make-up, method, and projected margin of error." They think, "Trump is winning the race and Biden is losing." Liberals flap their gums about how that means that Americans can't interpret polls and that it's our fault. If you aggregate a set of data, and present it to the public to inform our opinions and beliefs, you can't go as say, well the data we presented to you to cause reasonable inferences isn't supposed to be used that way and it's your fault for doing so." No, it's your fault for being in such an ivory tower that you can't see that practically speaking, the data isn't informative to a wider populous.
If you want to see something that indicates enthusiasm, see the ,"uncommitted" vote movement in the dems primaries. 5%-20% of the votes cast in states were uncommitted. Those aren't Trump voters, they chose to vote in the Dem's primary. They aren't disengaged Dems as they took time out of their day, sometimes time off work or needing to find childcare, to send the statement to Biden, "I'm a Dem-stop supporting genocide." It's not like they are going to switch to voting for the candidate who wants to more actively promote the genocide, rather than tacitly permit it. They're politically active and engaged in the process, and want their candidate Biden to be better.
To sum up, do I think that polling now adays is a very good and reliable metric to use for political races? No. Do I think that it can offer useful insight into the enthusiasm or direction in thought of a party? For the most part yeh. Do I think that the Dems should be worried? Thet should be very worried, but for completely different reasons that what worries they are irrationally dismissing. The youth vote in the "red wave" and the uncommitted vote in the primaries show the Dems that they have a market of voters primed for the taking, as long as they give them something to vote "for" and not just to vote "against" someone else. If Biden were to stick to talking about four things 1.(At the BARE minimum) Calling for an immediate non-conditional or temporarily limited ceasefire and condition US military aid to Israel and the US's permenant veto at the UN in Israel's favor upon doing so so that the world can try to mitigate the budding famine in Gaza set to eradicate way more people then Israeli bombs have done so far. 2. Speak about your Labor wins, partnership, support of unions, and the everyday worker. 3. Say that this election is a referendum on Women's Rights and Freemdoms in this country, state that you support a constitutional ammendment enshrined Roe, and just plaster on the news the disastrous circumstances the dissolution of Roe in Red States has caused. 4. Don't hem and haw about protecting Democracy. Call Trump what he is, a fragile tin-pot dictator who wasn't a competent enough of a Fascist in order to tear down Democracy the first time around so he wants another go at it. (To the leftists and right wingers-No, "Ummmm, actually the US is an oligarchy/ protofascist/Republic/Communist nonsense. This talking point is for the middle aged individuals without any real financial strain who have the luxury of really caring about protecting "Democracy". ). Do those 4, and he'll landslide him. Ain't to blasted complicated.
Galen, stay strong about Princess Kate!! You’re right!
I think there's substantially more "disaprove but will still vote for" bias for Biden than for Trump.
I've picked up a Quinnipeac poll a bit back. I answered disapprove for both.
I would crawl over broken glass nude to vote for Biden again if he's running against Trump.
They didnt ask that question.
Someone is hella from NorCal :D
keep taking those polls...
some of us know, not to answer anything
you are only polling those who allow you to poll them
there is only one poll that matters, and you have no hand in it.
I am in the camp of polling error skewing republican and that as we get closer Biden will pull ahead. Plus, the Biden camp really didnt start campaigning until the state of the union.come May i think we will see him in the lead.
Yeah, I'm a wee bit more optimistic about Biden's chances than a month ago. Posting 3-23-24.
Biden is the incumbent and he did start campaigning in Michigan early this year. The polls won't tighten until October when some scared Democrats come home afraid Trump might win.
This is unprecedented that a challenger has won the nomination so early. Biden has to get out and campaign.
Polls don’t matter they underestimated us in 2022 because we went out and VOTED. let’s do the same this year 🌊
lol polls in 2022 were spot on... just check The Polls Were Historically Accurate In 2022 on 538... 'Despite a loud chorus of naysayers claiming that the polls were either underestimating Democratic support or biased yet again against Republicans, the polls were more accurate in 2022 than in any cycle since at least 1998, with almost no bias toward either party.'
Fjb
Werent the polls basically saying the mid terms would be a bloodbath for dems and it was the opposite? Shouldnt we factor that in?
Polls' response be like "We were TALKING about the AUTO INDUSTRY"
no, 2022 polls were NOT saying that.. as i replied somewhere else, 'Despite a loud chorus of naysayers claiming that the polls were either underestimating Democratic support or biased yet again against Republicans, the polls were more accurate in 2022 than in any cycle since at least 1998, with almost no bias toward either party. (from The Polls Were Historically Accurate In 2022 on 538...)
@@chemicalfrankie1030 democrats picked up seats and they were projected to lose seats….how is that not exactly what I said?
@@jackberling8060 Do you have empirical data? Because there is a factual answer.
@@chemicalfrankie1030 Ok so:
"As we’ve written many times, some degree of polling error is normal. Taken altogether, the polls in our pollster-ratings database have a weighted-average error of 6.0 points since 1998. However, polling in the 2021-22 election cycle had a weighted-average error of just 4.8 points,4 edging out the 2003-04 cycle for the lowest polling error on record."
Then later:
"The second lens we use to gauge polling accuracy is how often polls “called” the election correctly. In other words, did the candidate who led a poll win their race?7 Historically, across all elections analyzed since 1998, polling leaders come out on top 78 percent of the time (again using a weighted average). By this metric, the 2021-22 cycle was the least accurate in recent history."
These are extracts from a 538 article last year explaining the margin of error was the lowest ever (still 4.8%) but the amount of races called for the right party was the worst ever.
The gaul of 538 to be speaking on any polls is a bit rich just sayin🤫
I luv being the underdog. Idc care if eggs are 5bucks if ur taking my rights away!!
Voting BLUE all The way…and all my relatives too! Sooo i am not worried!
Complacency will be the Democrats downfall, I don't how many Democrat friends and coworkers I have talked to who claim "There is nothing to worry about, Biden is going to win." That kind of attitude is a recipe for disaster. Vote and act like you are 10 points down or else you risk losing the election...
Naw, I tell people not to panic because it's useless to get worked up so early if you, personally arent the politician, and if you are, figure it out in private and don't panic, especially publicly...Trust me, they're not complacent, panic is always used against you in propaganda...The morale is very important and polls can break that...
Dems are screwed… and you have Biden to thank.
I can’t follow all this intelligent conversation while Elliott is so distractingly adorable. The skiing/diving metaphor (or whatever it was) was so cute I can barely stand it!
Lost me at bloodbath comment. Come on, dont twist his words, he already has enough bad things to talk about, why lie.
I’m not worried at all. I’m voting for Joe and given Trump’s self sabotage and multiple legal actions, it’s Republicans who should be worried.
Full disclosure: I am a Conservative, and I fervently hope that the polls are correct.
That said, I would tell Biden voters the same thing I told Trump voters in 2020: vote like the polls are correct and your candidate is behind. The only "poll" that really matters is the one cast on Election Day.
I do believe the vast majority of polls are highly accurate (within 1-2%). Pollsters are becoming increasingly more sophisticated and have learned from mistakes of the last several elections. The polling results over the last 2 months have been remarkably consistent, and there have been very few outliers. If the election were held today and assuming there is only a modicum of cheating by the Democrats, then, with the possible exception of Pennsylvania, Trump would sweep all the swing states. Biden has tried to use the following to boost his numbers: abortion, a ranting SOTU address, non-stop name calling of Trump, bloodbathgate, fearmongering, etc. It's not a very positive message, and so far it appears to be an ongoing failure. With his obvious decrepit mental and physical condition, it seems unlikely he can inject any real and sustained energy into his campaign. Biden is getting killed on the border issue, and his floundering about on it is not helping him. He is also has strayed into the weeds on the Israel-Gaza conflict which also is hurting him. Biden's approval rating on the economy is dismal. I don't think lawfare against Trump is going to save the day for him. Like it or not for the Democrats, the feeble Biden will have to go mano a mano with Trump.
When will 538 finally come out their conservative closet and own their right-leaning bias?
I’m a Biden ‘20 voter who is anti Biden. He should definitely be worried
Disheartening...I am scared to death...
Thank the Supreme Court.
@MrJon92as wasn't it a 9-0 decision?🤔
@@joshuaupham5993 I'm not talking about the decision to keep Trump on the ballot, I'm talking about when they decided to hear Trump's immunity claim and not hold oral arguments on it until late April, which kills chances of having a verdict in the Jan. 6 trial before the election. That decision could've been 9-0 as well, but I don't know.
Stop lying.
I'll be voting Blue this November 💙 💙💙
Смешнт дураку что уши на боку.😭😭😭😭
When you hate the results, attack the polls... Sounds like what Trump said in 2020. Maybe.... Just consider... Both are very unpopular but one candidate has a base.
Biden's 3-year average favorability rating is lower than Jimmy Carter, Trump's, if you discount the 2021 poll, is much better than Biden or Carter.
and yet, Crumplingstiltskin is beyond troubled. The motor of the cult is losing its sensors feedbacks and so losing power and torque is beginning to its forcefulness; and its ECU processing is faltering
How did Trump come in dead last in the ranking of all presidents?
@@gingerj.1202 Only Marxist social scientist responded to this bias survey
The 2024 Presidential Greatness Project Expert Survey was conducted online via Qualtrics from November 15 to December 31, 2023. Respondents included current and recent members of the Presidents & Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association 525 respondents were invited to participate, and 154 usable responses were received, yielding a 29.3% response rate.
Show me the methodology for reaching Gen Z / Millenials that is even semi-effective and I'll believe you. Otherwise, these polls are much like the others; the dying gasps of a soon to be lost art.
This whole video about Biden polling and barely any mention of Israel/Gaza is hilarious
I heard a British Royal described as one of the most important people in the world. Unsubscribed.
A major magazine reported that 3 polls were taken and Biden was the winner but they didn't tell you the name of the polls deplorable when you make up stuff, no accountability, I should sue for causing me stress.
Need to do show on corruption on both sides and who is a WEF lackey
I'm shaking in my boots about another Trump presidency. From the polls he is going to win in a landslide. Just like the bloodbath he promised, here comes another natural disaster. He's 100% winning and I'm 100% crying.
Bb is out of context and overblown, every news network, and politician has used the term before.
Be afraid! 😂😂
Posting 3-23-24. It doesn't look very good now, but things can change in seven months, which is when voting starts (taking into account early voting).
What did he do in his first term that traumatized you
Simple: Stop supporting war crimes in Gaza.
Orange Man will support is Israel even more than Sleepy Joe. 💪🏻
The only prayer that Dems have of winning this election, is if they find another candidate. I voted for Biden in 20', I intend to vote for Jill Stein in 24'. I will not vote for Biden again.
Is Jill Stein even running?
@@specialnewb9821 yes. She will be the Green nominee.
Then you are basically voting for Trump.
To vote for someone who hasn’t a chance in hell of winning is insane.
Not so logical
Not worried at all as this crew from this cite always seem to pump up Trump, esp the host. Boy will they be pissed and/or disappointed if Biden wins, LMAO!
Sorry but I have to add this: the hair in your eyes is extremely distracting
It's TEM-poral, not "tem-POR-al". You're journalists, you should know.
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My bank account cannot afford another 4 years of a Biden presidency. He has been inept in everything from Afghanistan, to living costs, and foreign affairs.
Trump leads Biden in all of the battleground states, and I feel fine. 🐼🎧🖤
Even in some states that weren't supposed to be battleground states, like Nevada and Minnesota.
In general, all of you sound pretty intelligent. However, each time any of you mispronounces “temporal” as tem-PÓR-al (instead of correctly saying TÉM-por-al), you sound to me 5% less intelligent.
Watching the justifications for the polls being off (mostly because of the obvious political lean that this content serves) is cringe. Simply put, Biden is the worst presidential candidate since John Kerry and Democrats should be VERY worried.
Biden has actually been quite a good President actually. If we look at objective facts and not our feelings. But people vote based on feelings and Biden has a speech impediment and not the best public speaker... So most people don't look enough to learn the facts of the record of his presidency and instead listen to the talking heads talk about the polls and then form their opinion based on peer pressure since they are too lazy to investigate and think for themselves.
Kerry was a great candidate too. But people got riled up about fake veterans claiming he didn't earn his purple heart. The intelligence of the average american is appalling and we get what we get because of the ignorance of the people too lazy to think for themselves and look past the propaganda.
I was unsure if i was going to vote for Biden but tten i saw him run off stage to make faces at a baby. Im definitely going to vote for him now. Said nobody
Tell me you are leftist hacks without telling me you are leftist hacks
Why didn't the US invest invest 34 billion each year, every year, In Liberia instead of Israel? One of those countries could have had reliable running water and power and the other would not be a rouge nation with nuclear weapons?
MAGA
Since no one else seems to have this perspective in these comments, I’m not voting for Biden in the fall. I’m not going to vote for Trump either, but I can’t vote for a genocidaire.
Me neither, but i am not allowed to vote in US elections. And about the genocidaire that is BiBi.
In fact you are saying you don't care about who becomes president and if Donnie wins you are happy with the genocidaire lover. (BiBi, Putin, and his biggest man crush the dictator of North Korea) I hope you don't complain afterwards.
Biden has said repeatedly you can’t find a stronger ally of Israel than him. If you look at his record, you see there’s no reason to doubt him. The current genocide in Gaza would not be possible if the U.S. turned its back on Israel, as it should. BiBi is no doubt the single person most responsible, but Biden is not far behind.
Really, I’m not dispassionate about this whole thing. I’m driven by moral disgust here, not ambivalence. My greatest fear isn’t Trump winning, I’ve already lived through four years of that, it’s my country’s endless belligerence and sponsorship of genocide continuing unabated. That won’t be affected by which of these politicians win.
Me too. I'm probably voting for Jill Stein.
Remember when you all were wrong about the 2016 election?
Yeah, I’m outtie.