Tight turning is very good but an oversensitive steering might cause problems (like oversteering and going in the scenery). May be old school, but turn and a half is much safer than half that
@@cashandraven2369 Canoo saw a GAAP net loss and comprehensive loss of $117.7 million and $407.5 million for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2022 - and with no products to sell they have naturallyl not brought in any revenue since making their public debut... But like I said, I really want Canoo to succeed/survive.
@@flottenheimer And yet in spite of that, Walmart moved ahead, NASA is moving ahead, the US military has a ton of interest in the platform. IT may be a rocky start but they have all the right backers to push into production.
odd that talking about comfort and convenience and yet anyone has used capacitive buttons know they are harder to use in vehicles especially when moving. A row of phyical buttons would be much better...happy that companies are exploring new forms of vehicle...its cool overall...but some aspects do seem a little over designed.
@@planespeaking The cost of making the same knobs and buttons for twenty years ought to keep the cost down. My dad's 2001 Skoda, mums 2003 Skoda and my 2010 VW Caddy, all had the same stuff. It just works. It doesn't need tweaking every year.
@@johanj3674 You will be VERY disappointed if you want a new VAG vehicle. I know someone who traded hers in for one of the older models with physical controls after 3000 miles as she hated the new UI so much.
@@MrDuncl I love technology as much as any man. But sometimes it just sucks. Like this. Knobs works for a reason. Guess I'm lucky to be poor enough to have to keep my Suzuki Swift petrol until it either dies on me or is outlawed. No electric car for me!
Walmart's purchase of 4500 Canoo EVs for their delivery service is great news for Canoo. That influx of cash will likely get them "over the hump" and into real production. Once that happens and they start producing models for the public, I'll be trading in my truck and getting a Canoo. I've been watching them for years and they one of the few EVs I've really been interested in owning. Really happy to see this episode and see some light at the end of the tunnel for Canoo.
Canoo is one of my favorite startups and it's great to see them finally getting tires on the road. I think they may be the only EV company that is really taking advantage of the packaging advantage of an EV.
Two takeaways for me: There looks to be a lot of wasted cabin space. The visibility up front is great but there's a lot of empty space to facilitate that for the seating that is so far back. That rounded off back end wastes what could be a more useful cargo space. Squaring it off would give an easier load space to configure with more space.
This. Its an amazing looking vehicle, but as a delivery van, there's a lot of wasted space. Traditional vans that we have here like the Toyota HiAce have the engine underneath the driver and a much squarer body for maximum storage.
They could've placed the driver above the front axle (like the old VW micro bus) but that won't do well with today's crash & safety standards. A lot of people got their legs crushed in those old VW vans.
Yeah I'd rather have an enclosed space in front of the driver for a frunk. Seeing the road is cool but I think having that space for storage would be more useful.
Always loved the one-box concept and this is one of the best examples. Hope they do great as delivery trucks, so that the production of public versions may start too.
Love the design of Canoo's Electric Van. "The Lifestyle van is priced starting at $34,750 for the Delivery model and topping out at $49,950 for the Premium model. Canoo does plan to sell their vehicles directly much like Tesla and Rivian are doing now."
I love the minimalist approach taken by canoo to the design. Great to see so much space for the driver, and how that space allows them to give that amazing forward view. That great forward view is safer and also allows for even tighter turns. The other real star in this video however is Rickie. What a smooth, well paced and informative presentation. Looking forward to lots more from Rickie going forward! I also appreciate any episode on fully charged which is not about yet another aspirational private electric car.
This is a Small van! The usable cargo space is smaller than a Nissan NV 200. And smaller than the first generation Ford Transit Connect offered here in the US. The driver capsule is located behind the front wheels. There is roughly 3 to 4 feet of unused space at the front of the van between the bumper and front of the drivers door opening. The existence of that space is probably a crush/impact zone for crash safety. The raked rear door is in efficient because it robs the back of the van of close to 6 to cubic feet of cargo space. This is an intriguing design, but I am dubious about its market penetration and sales prospects. It already has a European van about this size to compete for the European market. Vans of this size seem to have a market there.
I'm so glad to see that Canoo is still chugging along. For a while, it seemed like it was lights out. I would love to purchase their pickup/utility truck, and hope they keep refining that design and make it available to the public. Keep up the great work!
Make sure you buy sunscreen, because all this wanker glass will give you sun cancer.. it's a wank.. you are going to use more water and energy just to keep the glass clean..
@@tony_25or6to4 I believe Canoo is still privately owned so they don’t have public stock options to purchase on an exchange. Maybe the will go public soon if it’s a success. Although Rivian stock is down, it was in a slight recovery so I bought just under $1500 in stock in June when it was at $26.24 and sold it a week or so ago on the 16th when it was $39.26 and made a cool $742.82. It pays to keep an eye on these stocks even when they’re down as you can make a nice payday when they recover even slightly. A little less after fees and i have to check if I have to pay the full 15% capital gains or if it’s less as it’s under a thousand. Im new to investments but I’ve been doing okay for a novice in their 20s. I should say, this is NOT financial advice… Just sharing a story.
This vehicle is based on the Chinese LDV eDeliver 3 with a Canoo designed innovative van body, built in the US. Congratulations this is the best Manufacturing compromise in order to get the vehicle to market quickly and at a good price. Looking forward to variants of the design.
I put a preorder for their truck-knowing that it might never get made but if they do, it will be an awesome mini truck. There’s only the Maverick in the market for that segment. I’m keeping my Tacoma until more EV truck that is not ridiculously pricy come along.
This kind of open interior (as well as expanded views) keeps being promised, but we don’t see it enough in production. Even ICE SUVs seem to make their interiors more claustrophobic than they need to be, and this in an area where EVs can differentiate.
I’m so excited! This is why I love EVs. They open the door to sooo many new and innovative vehicles with new and interesting features. I don’t want normal vehicles anymore.
Love it - front end looks like some kind of Luna or Mars rover from a sci-fi film. More seriously a slightly bigger version as a campervan would be hugely welcomed in Europe. 200 or 250 miles on a charge is enough.. make it competitive (space wise) to a 6m panel van and it would attract a lot of buyers.
one issue with ice vehicles that doesnt get talked about enough is the lethality of not being able to see whats in front of your vehicle. that visibility leads to pedestrian and child deaths. the visibility in this canoo is game-changing
Nice vehicle! Hope it comes to Europe one day. Just a quick reminder: please don't forget to translate all the imperial measures into metric. I've always found this a major plus of fully charged.
This over any soulless minivan. Imagine the road trip potential with a ~100 kWh battery pack, 7 seats, all that space. Hope they succeed and give us a passenger version soon.
@@Bob-qz5yj In the video you see it effectively has a "frunk" with lots of space possible ahead of the driver. This itself matches many current minivans.
@@plumleytube Lol. Stick your nose up your car's exhaust then if it's so wonderful. There are plenty of EVs with over 200k miles on the clock. Go spam another comment section, there are educated people here.
@@Channelnem when they get on top of their commercial orders and then get retail production sorted, changing to RHD should be an absolute doddle. It probably won't happen unless a UK Walmart equivalent places a big order.
Cool to see both of the online shopping giants split their competitions, amazon and rivian, Walmart and canoo. Glad to see the cooler smaller electric car companies getting good support
That is a great van, can see it become very popular for construction work - might want side doors for easy access for large materials but that is about it
I was thinking the same, have of the video is about how efficient it uses space, but my 80's VW T3/T25 has a more efficient use of the front space. Mind you in a crash the canoo will be a lot better.. but some storage up front would not be a bad thing
I don't really like Walmart but on this decision they made a good choice. These vehicles will limit the cost to them on maintenance and make it easier for them to try to become the next Amazon.
I am glad to see Canoo still surviving. After Rivian, Canoo was the other start-up I was hoping to see come to market. I love the Canoo Truck concept and I love the ID Buzz/Canoo Van take on utility vehicle with smaller footprint and larger usable space.
Nice - I wonder what the design decsion was to waste all of that front space to the lower window and massive steering column when a camera would have been a good trade off for a parking assist?
well i mean if you can see the ground in front of you then you dont need assists or sensors because you can literally, like i said, see the ground in front of you
Just bought 50 shares I see the future in that vehicle. The backseat reminds me of a futuristic taxi or uber thinking about everytime you leave an airport you see the lifestyle cannoo vans ready to pick you and company up
4:17 you lost me at capacitive touch controls. I like the design of this vehicle, but i cant have people looking off the road for several seconds to change the AC or turn on defrost
What a compelling vehicle. Would definitely be interested in how the new contracts (Army, NASA, Walmart) have impacted the vehicle design and how that might carry over to consumer models… and when those might go on sale!?
The Canoo is what happens when we finally get the Concept car. And I'm all for it. That cockpit is to die for. Just get in your space ship and glide away.
Outstanding, amazing design. Please bring these to Australia, we need this type of EV on the road everywhere so more people see the change to EV not only is the smart thing to do but also can look cool even in a delivery vehicle. First thing my wife said is even the wheels on that look better than 99% of cars. Such a cool and functional design, well done 👍
Aussie politicians so pro coal mining they’d give a grant to convert it to a steam engine with a fireman as well as driver up front and a coal tender behind it.
Oh M G ! The way you were talking at the beginning I was thinking this thing was only going to have a range of a hundred miles. However when you say 200 to 250 miles, I want to buy one NOW ! Great for outdoor adventure sports gear carrying van and camping trips. Love it !
Love it. I am a big EV fan, and my next vehicle purchase will be a BEV. I just like the technology as well as the convenience of not pumping gas. The up and down of fuel prices has gotten tiresome. Also, the fact that you are supporting unfriendly countries by importing the petroleum that we consume has been a major factor in my decision to go electric. I think that America needs a new revolution when it comes to transportation. Just like the ICE vehicle made horse drawn buggies look old and antiquated, the electric car is doing the same to gas cars.
Thank you for mentioning domestic energy security. Using evs means every dollar spent charging it has over .60c stay in the U.S. economy. Vs petrol fueling sees over .70c of each dollar spent at the pump go outside the U.S. economy. Buy locally built evs, use locally sourced and produced renewable energy=support your local economy&fellow American's. Doesn't get much more patriotic than that. 👍🏻😎
@@roboticvenom1935 By purchasing the fuel or crude oil from other economies, a fraction of all purchases has to go towards said foreign economies. You can't just buy something from abroad and not pay them.
Please see if you can convince them to display at the Fully Charged Live Show. As of now they say they aren't going to be there. Really want to be able to sit in and test drive one if possible.
Love, love, love this van. Functional, smart, and cute as a button. The front canopy reminds me of WWII bomber. What a awesome design! Please, please survive.
I can't believe it actually exists. I didn't believe in Canoo at all, but I loved their concepts. And now that I see it driving around? I really hope they'll succeed with bringing it to the market!
I didn't love Canoo's concepts at all. I think they originally wanted to be a driverless VAAS or shuttle bus? Yawn - wake me up when _anyone_ manages to pull that off. But this iteration seems like exactly what these retailers need.
I was fortunate to get a chance to check one of these out in person. Had no idea what it was when it pulled up at the airport. (I am a corporate pilot). Turns out it was Tony Aquila coming to catch a flight from a day spent on the proving grounds. He invited me to take a look inside and shared some info about it. I own 2 Teslas and would absolutely buy one of these if it were available
Yes, it manages to look both simple yet high-tech at the same time. And the extremely simple form makes it almost looking cute. My biggest concern is the range though. Did i just miss it or was it never mentioned in the video?
Beautiful looking vehicle. But I have many doubts...No frunk? Why did they give priority to visibility than storage space in a delivery vehicle? 🤔 Why is driver seat towards the middle of the van?
Yeah, I like it, and understand the whole visibility concept, but 3 feet of virtually useless space between the driver and that front bumper is a lost opportunity.
a big frunk just means they havent figured out that they are now building EVs rather the ICE vehicles they got done had had this huge space left under the hood they didnt know what else to do with. hadnt realized they just needed to get rid of the hood and replace it with a minivan hood. that said im really curious about how front end crashes go with this vehicle.
It probably doesn't _need_ to be... but the thing is, due to the electric drivetrain, it CAN. I've seen far sillier things done by car companies in the name of style. And if this stylistic choice lets a delivery driver see the curb directly in front of the vehicle as opposed to blocking the view with a giant lump of metal sheets, all the better. Because if you think about it, your question could be reversed. Does a classic car layout with all that stuff in front of the driver _need_ to be like that?
Amazing design. The interior is even more impressive. I want one. Can you order these? They should have it with back seats and all glass roof. This should be a sales mega hit if they make it more family and less business oriented. Absolutely amazing.
I love the look of this but there’s a lot of glass in the front so I’d be interested to see the structure of the cabin and how protected the driver is in the event of a front end collision.
It doesn’t matter with the stupid pickup trucks in the USA, the front grill of one of them you be coming through the windscreen of this or any normal sized car.
@@RichardChambers tbh this thing has so much room in the front, they could take it as a challenge to fill ALL that space with crumple zone and make such a crash survivable. That'd be inspiring.
... which is one of the reasons why the final safety tested production models of these things often end up looking different to the attractive futuristic prototypes (e.g. Arrival van)
Honestly, this was the first company that I saw that really embraced the idea of "we do not have to have any legacy ideas, unless they are GOOD ideas." and ran with it full force.
Very well said. Canoo is the only re-designed true EV. Even Tesla is modified from gas engineer so there is a hole used as front trunk as a result of gas engine removal.
@@freddybell8328 Aptera is way more NICHE than this. Canoo can hit at least 5 markets (I thought about this for at least 15 seconds) "Mum truck" (school run) Delivery Van. Work Van (closed) Work Truck ("pick-up ") "Utility vehicle" (anything from food truck to camper) . Oh, I forgot Taxi. . Aptera? Not so much.
I have had $100 reservation for Cybertruck since November 2019. This is a 6 passenger vehicle. I have had $100 reservation for Canoo since May 2021. This is expected to be 6-8 passenger. I keep an eye on option becoming available to reserve VW ID Buzz. This is expected to be 6-8 passenger. I am also open to any other option that comes along, as long as EV and 6+ passenger. Whichever of these will be available first at a price I can afford is what will be our 2nd EV to replace our 2015 KIA Sedona Minivan. Our 1st EV is Tesla Model 3 and gets driven as primary unless we need more than 5 passengers or cargo too big for it.
OK, it looks cool, but... why is the driver so far back?? I dont get it. Couldnt the driver be 50cm further forward, giving you more load capacity? I dont get it...
I was wondering that too. I thought that they perhaps due to the small size it's classified a certain way in the US and needs to have crumple zone in front in case of an accident. Larger vehicles that are taller are allowed to have the driver closer up front. It's a shame that all of the space is wasted, especially on the delivery vehicles. At the very least allow it to open and store the emergency gear (first aid kit, fire extinguisher, spare tire?, etc) and free up the space in the back from having to store them.
There were a bunch of companies saying they were going to do this 4 years ago. It's nice to see that Canoe actually did it BUT Back-up camera please! 11:45 doesn't look like you could deliver a 70" flat screen with that space, great for groceries and diapers though.
As a delivery driver I will suggest the most important things are how easy it is to get in and out of after all you can be getting in and out every few miles. What is the visibility like to the rear?
1) Look at the picture. Estimate the distance from the drivers head to the (laminated!) screen. Compare that to other vehicles (vans, etc) It's not a problem. . 2) It's a van the visibility will be via "a camera"
Vans and busses dont have "rear visibility" at all. Thats why they have huge wing mirrors and why rear cameras have been a standard feature for years on many vans. One of the first things you learn driving a van is to stop looking at the "rear view" mirror as its useless.
This vehicle's driver visibility is a huge safety factor for drivers being able to see what is immediately in front of them, in tight urban settings - e.g. small pets and children, baby strollers, etc.
Not surprised it’s getting looks and questions. Getting rid of the big engine bay design constraint shows that EVs can take the shape of whatever the task needs.
I realy like this concept. Smaller modular EV's. Price would probably begin around €37.000 in the EU. That would be double the price of the €18.500 Xbus, that is smaller, but also a modular EV. I hope there will be more EV's that bring something different then the endless EV line of salons and SUV's.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Xbus is about 4 meters long, that is not tiny at all. (maybe for USA standards, but those cars are rediculus large= to fit the huge USA McDonald generation.) In comparison, with the best-selling vehicle model in Europe, the Volkswagen Golf. The Xbus is just 20cm shorter and has 15cm less width, but is 50cm higher. Our Smart For Two, is 2.6 meters long and 1.6 meters wide. That is tiny.
Excellent programme!! more Vans more Trucks more Buses these are the things that really will change the conversation everybody uses buses know and know how much Vans and Trucks are used in our society please more content would be brilliant about this side of the electric revolution or should say re-descovery !!well done !!
I have mixed feelings about this. I love the look of it. But the whole concept of Canoo was supposed to be kind of human-centric design. You can see that in the cabin for sure. But for the rear that doesnt seem to translate at all for storage for delivery. And in terms of maximizing room for deliveries, small cab-over designs like Kei trucks are definitely far more superior use of space. With a cab over design you could have far more space with an even shorter vehicle, and a proper square box. 🤷 This almost certainly has better aero than a Kei truck, but does that even matter for last mile urban delivery? You also dont need a window in the bumper of a cab-over design.
I gather this is meant not to replace a van but a minivan. Where you need _some_ cargo space but you're not delivering huge volumes of stuff per trip. Note Walmart is also buying Ford e-Transit vans, which I presume are for their higher-volume errands.
@@ps.2 Yes. I just dont think delivery van was ever something Canoo were considering when they designed it. It is very obviously an afterthought. They DO have a delivery van design and it is more boxy. It just seems like there have to be much cheaper options purpose-designed for delivery. I guess Walmart wants something that just absolutely SCREAMS "electric" even if its not the best fit.
Cab over designs died because their drivers and passengers did in far too large numbers. Kei vans and trucks could never be made to pass US safety standards. If you have a working substitute for crumple zones, you can be a billionaire, but the laws of physics are against you.
@@kylenolan2710 I have to completely disagree with you. Cab over design small and medium trucks are massively popular in the US, not to mention the rest of the world, right this very second. The driver's butt is right over the front axle. The engine is behind the axle. Whatever crash certification needs to be satisfied, they must certainly be met, otherwise these would not be everywhere. One of those built 7/8-scale with the drivetrain and fuel storage completely in the floor and you have the Canoo. Except that horribly-inefficient use of front space. I do agree with your Kei-truck point, but the culprit is that they are so lightly built and under-powered that they can't keep up with US highway traffic.
I DO hope Canoo will be at *Fully Charged Live* so I can talk with them in person about a Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle ♿️ adaptation. They never responded to my emails or social media questions about a WAV Canoo Van. There are currently NO electric WAV vans available in USA. It will come too late for my sister with ALS👩🦼 but I want to be a WAV driver when my caregiving job is over. I want to volunteer for the ALS Association of San Diego. They've helped us A LOT. Please send them donations 🙏
The fly by wire design frontend with so much driver room looks perfect for driving from a wheelchair. Heck it seems to have enough room up there to drive from a HOSPITAL BED!
I love how it looks like it's from a sci-fi movie, I know I'll have fun getting used to that feeling when I see and hopefully own one on the roads, 1st thing I'm gonna do is listen to some futuristic sounding music and pretend I'm the hero once I'm inside.
looks great, but the loading space seems greatly reduced by design / seating position. It won't work for courier services and I think there are better / cheaper small vans for 'very' local deliveries.
Just read your comment before commenting myself. I agree the seating position seems surprisingly far back at the expense of rear cargo space. All I see Is that huge void in front of the driver. Surely there's room for two rows of seating up there. I love the exterior look but the interior needs a rethink if they are serious about using it for cargo
Looks kinda like spots that'd fit a lot of small delivery packages, or whatever else a company uniquely needs on hand quickly 😉. Remember they removed proprietary equipment from the back for this demonstration, perhaps it's also missing equipment in the front.
an interesting van but I can't help thinking that there is a lot of "wasted" space at the front and that drivers with clipboards, snacks, bottles etc are going to miss the dash and cubby holes. Great to see the company making progress but I think that many of the other car/vans will thrash them on cargo space in the same sort of overall length because they've kept to their curvy pill shape.
You could see the "wasted" space in a different perspective. They want a small aerodynamic shape in front of the front axle and not fully straight cut off, probably understandable. They also want a wide driver door a minimal intrusion from the wheel bay, because the driver has to frequently get in and out, also totally reasonable. Both combined results in the open space in front of the driver which isn't really used.
If you want tight turning circle then look no further than the Honda E!!! Rest wheel steering might be a useful bonus too. Can't help but see that big amount of front space as a wasted opportunity to move the cab forward and increase rear space, but still a good looking EV
Although the front view is great, I wonder about road debris hitting the lower window. And wouldn't that forward area be better used for additional storage?
Esteemed Mr. Roy, Nice coverage! Hyper-interesting and expertly presented. You do excellent work! This is the first I have heard of Canoo, so I'm either out of the loop or it is not being reported on, but it looks significant, and I appreciate you reporting on this. It seems Walmart wants to be the new Amazon. The visibility from the driver's seat is astounding, especially low out front! I can't say I'm crazy about a square steering wheel. I don't know who to credit, but it is also very nice to see the American flag decals on the van. GO USA!
I just hope that the glass under the windshield to be cheap to replace, there isn't a lot of bumper there, and flat as it is, a lot os rocks from the road will certainly land there. Nonetheless, I like it a lot.
Looking forward to the final specs/options/timing for the consumer 3-row version. Would be incredible for my family of 5 if Canoo can hit the right range & charging speeds to make this roadtrip-capable. Also, is it possible to open the front-bottom window? Seems like that could be very useful frunk room, especially for long drives where you don't need to see the highway that closely.
Even though I like Canoo and the Fully Charged Show, I have so many questions I hoped would be answered : - Why the huge unused space in the front ? Half the length of the car is for the driver's cockpit. - If that space is meant as crumple-zone, then I'm curious how the steering wheel etc would fold away, or something. - As it is meant for deliveries, why is the roof (of the cargo area) so low ? - Why the bevel at the top-rear corner ? Since the car is not meant for long distance highway driving, I'd think the design should tilt towards more cargo space, instead of better airflow.
Aerodynamics play a key role in this van's benefits and range. much of the design is to this end. the steering colum is fly by wire, so there's really not much to "fold away"
@@TwoBitDaVinci - Thank you for replying Ricky, and answering my two main questions. But I actually should have known the answers already, since you covered both in this episode. Aerodynamics do make a difference, even at lower speeds (and distances). Ik knew Canoo was prioritising efficiency, so that makes sense. When you mentioned the fly-by-wire steering it made me think the steering wheel column will be mainly empty (and probably partly telescopic?), thus less risk. Thanks, and success on the show.
Having been a camper owner in the past, I'd have liked a little less space out front. Because you mention about delivery drivers loving it, but I think they already love their tight front sections which allow sharp turns of the front of the vehicle to get in to awkward parking spots. All that said, this is well nice!
I think the video overstates the size to cargo space area of this compared to existing vehicles. The cargo area isn't any bigger than some other small vans. Looking at electric vans a basic e-nv200(UKs most popular electric van?) it can hold 140cubic ft apparently compared to the Conoos 120 stated in this video. The e-nv200 length x width is also smaller, so the "you could not get more stuff in here in a smaller footprint" claimed in the video even sounds outright incorrect doesn't it? If i read/heard the stats correctly. The heights seem very similar too. The cool thing about this vehicle is the rest of it. If someone wanted this much(actually much more) storage space in just as small of a vehicle then it has existed for many years.
The curved back def means you are losing space compared to a box. The rear interior also seemed to have alot of swoopy plastic panels that seem like a waste of space compared to a box. I really liked the concepts for this vehicle, but it doesnt seem at all brilliant as a delivery vehicle.
We've seen vehicles like this before, where the motor goes underneath the cabin of the vehicle. This is a really common design method with Kei cars, since they have such strict dimension limitations. The big difference is that electric motors are so small, and the ancillary components can be spaced out; Unlike with ICE's where most things have to be bolted onto the engine block. This is how Canoo can make such a spacious cabin.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought "that's gotta be a waste of space" so for the whole video I was waiting to see how to access it. Seems like it really is just a waste of space, which for a delivery van is ridiculous!
@@fatal_case_of_ligma it's accessable from the front via a glove box style opening. But it's good that it's awkward when its open to the foot well there the drives pedals is (see 4:50 in the video) imagine when stuff from the glove box lodges itself under the pedals...
Canoo may be the most American made car you can buy. 96% of all parts are sourced in USA or allied nations. Designed to be affordable by engineering a car that will use just a fraction of the parts as compared to the status quo. Also designed with half the semiconductor chips to protect from cybersecurity. Their other vehicles are so much cooler than the delivery version shown here, but it’s cool to see Canoo out there on the street. Looking forward to these becoming fully autonomous lofts on wheels.
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Tight turning radius is highly undervalued! Eliminating the need for a delivery vehicle performing a 3-point turn is a safety improvement.
Not to mention a galaxy brain move!
A Prius has a very tight turning radius and it is very welcome when you need to perform a U-turn.
Tight turning is very good but an oversensitive steering might cause problems (like oversteering and going in the scenery). May be old school, but turn and a half is much safer than half that
@@ShrekMeBe it's electronic, so it's not that hard to limit steering depending on speed for safety.
@@ShrekMeBe Maybe a speed dependent variable steering ratio or a speed dependent power steering effort would be an improvement.
Man, I really want Canoo to succeed/survive. Love their designs.
buy some shares and spread the word ;-).
@@JackGoorkate done
They have Walmart investing, NASA, and the US army interested. I have no doubt they will make it in the longer term.
@@cashandraven2369 Canoo saw a GAAP net loss and comprehensive loss of $117.7 million and $407.5 million for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2022 - and with no products to sell they have naturallyl not brought in any revenue since making their public debut... But like I said, I really want Canoo to succeed/survive.
@@flottenheimer And yet in spite of that, Walmart moved ahead, NASA is moving ahead, the US military has a ton of interest in the platform. IT may be a rocky start but they have all the right backers to push into production.
odd that talking about comfort and convenience and yet anyone has used capacitive buttons know they are harder to use in vehicles especially when moving. A row of phyical buttons would be much better...happy that companies are exploring new forms of vehicle...its cool overall...but some aspects do seem a little over designed.
Depends on the haptic qualities. Some are very good.
@@planespeaking The cost of making the same knobs and buttons for twenty years ought to keep the cost down. My dad's 2001 Skoda, mums 2003 Skoda and my 2010 VW Caddy, all had the same stuff. It just works. It doesn't need tweaking every year.
For a commercial vehicle the touch controls are an awful design choice. What if the driver is wearing gloves?
@@johanj3674 You will be VERY disappointed if you want a new VAG vehicle. I know someone who traded hers in for one of the older models with physical controls after 3000 miles as she hated the new UI so much.
@@MrDuncl I love technology as much as any man. But sometimes it just sucks. Like this. Knobs works for a reason. Guess I'm lucky to be poor enough to have to keep my Suzuki Swift petrol until it either dies on me or is outlawed. No electric car for me!
Walmart's purchase of 4500 Canoo EVs for their delivery service is great news for Canoo. That influx of cash will likely get them "over the hump" and into real production. Once that happens and they start producing models for the public, I'll be trading in my truck and getting a Canoo. I've been watching them for years and they one of the few EVs I've really been interested in owning. Really happy to see this episode and see some light at the end of the tunnel for Canoo.
Canoo is one of my favorite startups and it's great to see them finally getting tires on the road. I think they may be the only EV company that is really taking advantage of the packaging advantage of an EV.
I really wanna see vanlife taking off in these things. I love the look, and if I was ever gonna live in a van, I'd want something electric.
@@natureloversadventures7335 dude have you ever driven an ev?
@@natureloversadventures7335 you clearly haven't owned an ev
Two takeaways for me:
There looks to be a lot of wasted cabin space. The visibility up front is great but there's a lot of empty space to facilitate that for the seating that is so far back.
That rounded off back end wastes what could be a more useful cargo space. Squaring it off would give an easier load space to configure with more space.
This. Its an amazing looking vehicle, but as a delivery van, there's a lot of wasted space.
Traditional vans that we have here like the Toyota HiAce have the engine underneath the driver and a much squarer body for maximum storage.
Then it will look like the Gadget van
They could've placed the driver above the front axle (like the old VW micro bus) but that won't do well with today's crash & safety standards. A lot of people got their legs crushed in those old VW vans.
My thoughts exactly!
Yeah I'd rather have an enclosed space in front of the driver for a frunk. Seeing the road is cool but I think having that space for storage would be more useful.
It’s cool. One thing that strikes me right away though is safety. Children could be seen very easily with that low front window. Excellent.
You just have to love the visibility the driver has. Really want a passenger version of this, but could also see it making an excellent taxi.
There's the lifestyle model of this. 7 passengers. Supposed to be coming out this year.
Camper van. I'd just love that
wasted space
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@@declantiberiuskelly1263 too small to lay down in.
Rivian and canoo have the right idea working out the inevitable bugs and issues of a new vehicle in a commercial fleet is good for passenger vehicles
Huge fan of Canoo. Thank you for giving well deserved attention to them!
wow nice to see one of my favorite RUclips hosts on another of my favorite show,. congrats great work bro!
Always loved the one-box concept and this is one of the best examples. Hope they do great as delivery trucks, so that the production of public versions may start too.
Love the design of Canoo's Electric Van. "The Lifestyle van is priced starting at $34,750 for the Delivery model and topping out at $49,950 for the Premium model. Canoo does plan to sell their vehicles directly much like Tesla and Rivian are doing now."
I love the minimalist approach taken by canoo to the design. Great to see so much space for the driver, and how that space allows them to give that amazing forward view. That great forward view is safer and also allows for even tighter turns. The other real star in this video however is Rickie. What a smooth, well paced and informative presentation. Looking forward to lots more from Rickie going forward! I also appreciate any episode on fully charged which is not about yet another aspirational private electric car.
Minimalist you say, but they give you like 50 different options/add ons.... if they can actually manufacture this prototype.
Expensive junk within 5 to 8 years.
@@plumleytube like every car ?
@@pan6593 My 1966 Cadillac will probably out live me
@@plumleytube Ohhh.. gotta "hot-take' right here.
This is a Small van! The usable cargo space is smaller than a Nissan NV 200. And smaller than the first generation Ford Transit Connect offered here in the US. The driver capsule is located behind the front wheels. There is roughly 3 to 4 feet of unused space at the front of the van between the bumper and front of the drivers door opening. The existence of that space is probably a crush/impact zone for crash safety. The raked rear door is in efficient because it robs the back of the van of close to 6 to cubic feet of cargo space. This is an intriguing design, but I am dubious about its market penetration and sales prospects. It already has a European van about this size to compete for the European market. Vans of this size seem to have a market there.
I'm so glad to see that Canoo is still chugging along. For a while, it seemed like it was lights out. I would love to purchase their pickup/utility truck, and hope they keep refining that design and make it available to the public. Keep up the great work!
Make sure you buy sunscreen, because all this wanker glass will give you sun cancer.. it's a wank.. you are going to use more water and energy just to keep the glass clean..
Same! Too many promising companies disappear. Good to see they are still going! Want one for recreation at some point.
Pick up some shares while it's cheap. GOEV
No one can afford any cars designed and built in commiefornia
@@tony_25or6to4 I believe Canoo is still privately owned so they don’t have public stock options to purchase on an exchange. Maybe the will go public soon if it’s a success. Although Rivian stock is down, it was in a slight recovery so I bought just under $1500 in stock in June when it was at $26.24 and sold it a week or so ago on the 16th when it was $39.26 and made a cool $742.82. It pays to keep an eye on these stocks even when they’re down as you can make a nice payday when they recover even slightly. A little less after fees and i have to check if I have to pay the full 15% capital gains or if it’s less as it’s under a thousand. Im new to investments but I’ve been doing okay for a novice in their 20s. I should say, this is NOT financial advice… Just sharing a story.
This vehicle is based on the Chinese LDV eDeliver 3 with a Canoo designed innovative van body, built in the US. Congratulations this is the best Manufacturing compromise in order to get the vehicle to market quickly and at a good price. Looking forward to variants of the design.
Would love to own one of these, or even better, the truck version. I hope they can eventually get to the point where they're selling to the public.
Literally any other van gives you the view, but doesn't waste 1m of the vehicle to a big empty hole up front...
I put a preorder for their truck-knowing that it might never get made but if they do, it will be an awesome mini truck. There’s only the Maverick in the market for that segment. I’m keeping my Tacoma until more EV truck that is not ridiculously pricy come along.
@@Danger_mouse makes parking nice
@@-Nick-T So does any conventional van.
I don't get why you would waste 1m of cargo space and sit in the middle of the van 🤷
@@Danger_mouse that was my first reaction, what a huge amount of wasted space in front of the driver
Iconic as the BMW i3! Can't wait to see canoo on German streets. Would definetely buy one.
This kind of open interior (as well as expanded views) keeps being promised, but we don’t see it enough in production. Even ICE SUVs seem to make their interiors more claustrophobic than they need to be, and this in an area where EVs can differentiate.
What a fantastic design! I hope Canoo will make it and find a way to the market in the US and Europe. Thanks Fully Charged!
I’m so excited! This is why I love EVs. They open the door to sooo many new and innovative vehicles with new and interesting features. I don’t want normal vehicles anymore.
Yes. And you get to pay $20,000 in eight years for a new battery pack.
Same. I would love one of these!
@@ronstar7027 no different from paying the same amount for a new engine or transmission.
@@ronstar7027 do you know how many parts can and will fail in ice cars? Also fuel costs more than energy
a car's initial concept is a moving box that carriers cargo/human everywhere.
This would be a great camper van
Fantastic work by Canoo. I wish them all of the best for production and hope they can ramp up deliveries quickly. Great episode, thanks Ricky!
Love it - front end looks like some kind of Luna or Mars rover from a sci-fi film. More seriously a slightly bigger version as a campervan would be hugely welcomed in Europe. 200 or 250 miles on a charge is enough.. make it competitive (space wise) to a 6m panel van and it would attract a lot of buyers.
one issue with ice vehicles that doesnt get talked about enough is the lethality of not being able to see whats in front of your vehicle. that visibility leads to pedestrian and child deaths. the visibility in this canoo is game-changing
Thoroughly impressed, great that Walmart has futuristic thinking, Canoo, you certainly made a hit!
Nice vehicle!
Hope it comes to Europe one day.
Just a quick reminder: please don't forget to translate all the imperial measures into metric. I've always found this a major plus of fully charged.
This over any soulless minivan. Imagine the road trip potential with a ~100 kWh battery pack, 7 seats, all that space. Hope they succeed and give us a passenger version soon.
Unfortunately the money is in the commercial market
It's far too small to work as a minvan, 7 seats are possible, but you get no cargo space
@@Bob-qz5yj In the video you see it effectively has a "frunk" with lots of space possible ahead of the driver. This itself matches many current minivans.
Expensive junk within 5 to 8 years. Wake up. The EV push is a scam and a trick
@@plumleytube Lol. Stick your nose up your car's exhaust then if it's so wonderful. There are plenty of EVs with over 200k miles on the clock. Go spam another comment section, there are educated people here.
Looks straight out of NASA. Cool van for sure
Love the look of this and would love Canoo to produce the 7 seat option for the UK market
There's a people carrier option.
Check the website
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yes he explained in the video about the 7 seat option coming to the market (USA) but will they release a version over in the UK?
Just fugly🤮
@@Channelnem when they get on top of their commercial orders and then get retail production sorted, changing to RHD should be an absolute doddle. It probably won't happen unless a UK Walmart equivalent places a big order.
@@rogerbrand6214 Yeah, since they have a fly-by-wire steering system, a very large portion of the parts would carry over to RHD variant.
Cool to see both of the online shopping giants split their competitions, amazon and rivian, Walmart and canoo. Glad to see the cooler smaller electric car companies getting good support
That is a great van, can see it become very popular for construction work - might want side doors for easy access for large materials but that is about it
6:52 isnt that a side door?
The lack of rear windows and paint job definitely makes it clear which way this vehicle is pointed.
Wow, what an amazing vehicle. I am perplexed by the dash placement and all the vacant space in the front, but otherwise... Wow.
that vacant space can be life safer when they crash, it give more extra distance for the crumple zone before the impact hit the driver...
I was thinking the same, have of the video is about how efficient it uses space, but my 80's VW T3/T25 has a more efficient use of the front space. Mind you in a crash the canoo will be a lot better.. but some storage up front would not be a bad thing
Expensive junk within 5 to 8 years.
@@plumleytube You must be fun at parties
@Negan The Vegan things falling on the brake and pedal controls, that would be a disaster
As a service technician who does residential and commercial HVACR service, this van gets me very excited! I have my deposit in.
I don't really like Walmart but on this decision they made a good choice. These vehicles will limit the cost to them on maintenance and make it easier for them to try to become the next Amazon.
as they should. amazon bought rivians
Until they have to replace batteries.
I am glad to see Canoo still surviving. After Rivian, Canoo was the other start-up I was hoping to see come to market. I love the Canoo Truck concept and I love the ID Buzz/Canoo Van take on utility vehicle with smaller footprint and larger usable space.
My top 3 was Rivian, Canoo and Aptera.
Nice - I wonder what the design decsion was to waste all of that front space to the lower window and massive steering column when a camera would have been a good trade off for a parking assist?
well i mean if you can see the ground in front of you then you dont need assists or sensors because you can literally, like i said, see the ground in front of you
Look on their website. It is an opening frunk. The glass opens down.
@@JamesGood Aha - thank you
Just bought 50 shares I see the future in that vehicle. The backseat reminds me of a futuristic taxi or uber thinking about everytime you leave an airport you see the lifestyle cannoo vans ready to pick you and company up
4:17 you lost me at capacitive touch controls. I like the design of this vehicle, but i cant have people looking off the road for several seconds to change the AC or turn on defrost
Especially for a commercial vehicle! Function over everything.
Unless it has voice control?
@@rogerstarkey5390
**shouting**
VOLUME UP
VOLUME UP
VOLUME UP
Yeah I have serious doubts that the capacitive controls were given the ok by anyone with real boots on the ground, I hope they go.
I actually like that open-style dash. Very different and many advantages to having good visibility lower down.
What a compelling vehicle. Would definitely be interested in how the new contracts (Army, NASA, Walmart) have impacted the vehicle design and how that might carry over to consumer models… and when those might go on sale!?
The Canoo is what happens when we finally get the Concept car. And I'm all for it. That cockpit is to die for. Just get in your space ship and glide away.
If they could make a deal to do vehicle service out of Walmart's service centers, that would be huge for consumer confidence.
Can you imagine if you could buy one through Walmart financing as well?
and Walmart as the exclusive dealerships!!!
Still reckon the New Kombi [Buzz is The Buzz]should have looked more like this!
I especially LOVE the Twin Cab Pickup!!
Outstanding, amazing design. Please bring these to Australia, we need this type of EV on the road everywhere so more people see the change to EV not only is the smart thing to do but also can look cool even in a delivery vehicle. First thing my wife said is even the wheels on that look better than 99% of cars. Such a cool and functional design, well done 👍
"Landcruiser killer"?
Aussie politicians so pro coal mining they’d give a grant to convert it to a steam engine with a fireman as well as driver up front and a coal tender behind it.
Oh M G ! The way you were talking at the beginning I was thinking this thing was only going to have a range of a hundred miles. However when you say 200 to 250 miles, I want to buy one NOW ! Great for outdoor adventure sports gear carrying van and camping trips. Love it !
Love it. I am a big EV fan, and my next vehicle purchase will be a BEV. I just like the technology as well as the convenience of not pumping gas. The up and down of fuel prices has gotten tiresome. Also, the fact that you are supporting unfriendly countries by importing the petroleum that we consume has been a major factor in my decision to go electric. I think that America needs a new revolution when it comes to transportation. Just like the ICE vehicle made horse drawn buggies look old and antiquated, the electric car is doing the same to gas cars.
Thank you for mentioning domestic energy security. Using evs means every dollar spent charging it has over .60c stay in the U.S. economy.
Vs petrol fueling sees over .70c of each dollar spent at the pump go outside the U.S. economy. Buy locally built evs, use locally sourced and produced renewable energy=support your local economy&fellow American's. Doesn't get much more patriotic than that. 👍🏻😎
@@4literv6 how does it got outside the economy, you're clueless.
@@roboticvenom1935 By purchasing the fuel or crude oil from other economies, a fraction of all purchases has to go towards said foreign economies. You can't just buy something from abroad and not pay them.
@@aelux4179 a fraction, Canada and Mexico. We buy from them, it's cheaper. It's better for us.
@@roboticvenom1935 And saudi arabia and russia. And a fraction of something incredibly common adds up to a lot
I need one, the larger mpg version. Perfect for hauling my mtn bikes.
Please see if you can convince them to display at the Fully Charged Live Show. As of now they say they aren't going to be there. Really want to be able to sit in and test drive one if possible.
That's unwise of them not to be there
Love, love, love this van. Functional, smart, and cute as a button. The front canopy reminds me of WWII bomber. What a awesome design! Please, please survive.
I can't believe it actually exists. I didn't believe in Canoo at all, but I loved their concepts. And now that I see it driving around? I really hope they'll succeed with bringing it to the market!
I didn't love Canoo's concepts at all. I think they originally wanted to be a driverless VAAS or shuttle bus? Yawn - wake me up when _anyone_ manages to pull that off. But this iteration seems like exactly what these retailers need.
I was fortunate to get a chance to check one of these out in person. Had no idea what it was when it pulled up at the airport. (I am a corporate pilot). Turns out it was Tony Aquila coming to catch a flight from a day spent on the proving grounds. He invited me to take a look inside and shared some info about it. I own 2 Teslas and would absolutely buy one of these if it were available
This has a modern retro look to it. It’s definitely an attention grabber. I hope they succeed with this really cool looking transportation pod
Yes, it manages to look both simple yet high-tech at the same time.
And the extremely simple form makes it almost looking cute.
My biggest concern is the range though. Did i just miss it or was it never mentioned in the video?
@@sim.frischh9781 He did state it, over 200 miles.
Wow, Ricky, you were such a great host for this video! You brought a great feel and delivery to this video.
Beautiful looking vehicle. But I have many doubts...No frunk? Why did they give priority to visibility than storage space in a delivery vehicle? 🤔 Why is driver seat towards the middle of the van?
Yeah, I like it, and understand the whole visibility concept, but 3 feet of virtually useless space between the driver and that front bumper is a lost opportunity.
a big frunk just means they havent figured out that they are now building EVs rather the ICE vehicles they got done had had this huge space left under the hood they didnt know what else to do with. hadnt realized they just needed to get rid of the hood and replace it with a minivan hood. that said im really curious about how front end crashes go with this vehicle.
So ugly !
I genuinely love this car
That Thing looks great. But does the front design not waste too much space? Does it need to be that spaceship like?
Great concept overall I think.
Probably crash protection?
It probably doesn't _need_ to be... but the thing is, due to the electric drivetrain, it CAN.
I've seen far sillier things done by car companies in the name of style. And if this stylistic choice lets a delivery driver see the curb directly in front of the vehicle as opposed to blocking the view with a giant lump of metal sheets, all the better.
Because if you think about it, your question could be reversed. Does a classic car layout with all that stuff in front of the driver _need_ to be like that?
1/4 of the cars length is kind of useless with this design. Unless looking at your feet when driving is your thing.
Plenty of room to fill up with delivery detritus: old newspapers, crisp bags and bottles of pop.
There’s a video that shows a storage/work box up front. A front center driving position would be interesting too
Amazing design. The interior is even more impressive. I want one. Can you order these?
They should have it with back seats and all glass roof. This should be a sales mega hit if they make it more family and less business oriented.
Absolutely amazing.
I love the look of this but there’s a lot of glass in the front so I’d be interested to see the structure of the cabin and how protected the driver is in the event of a front end collision.
My first thought, exactly. I’m sure they’ve designed it for safety, but it’s not apparent how it’s going to hold up in a frontal impact.
It doesn’t matter with the stupid pickup trucks in the USA, the front grill of one of them you be coming through the windscreen of this or any normal sized car.
Ya, add to that the sun load. I hope its got a powerful AC unit.
@@RichardChambers tbh this thing has so much room in the front, they could take it as a challenge to fill ALL that space with crumple zone and make such a crash survivable. That'd be inspiring.
... which is one of the reasons why the final safety tested production models of these things often end up looking different to the attractive futuristic prototypes (e.g. Arrival van)
Oh wow I remember seeing this a few years ago as a concept, it turned out great, happy to see something different on the roads finally.
Honestly, this was the first company that I saw that really embraced the idea of "we do not have to have any legacy ideas, unless they are GOOD ideas." and ran with it full force.
theres a reason i invested over 100k into them so far
@@3CHONPRODUCTIONS
You were brave!
Looks like you were wise as well!
Very well said. Canoo is the only re-designed true EV. Even Tesla is modified from gas engineer so there is a hole used as front trunk as a result of gas engine removal.
@@Sphinx6x8 hmm? Aptera is way more unique than this.
@@freddybell8328
Aptera is way more NICHE than this.
Canoo can hit at least 5 markets (I thought about this for at least 15 seconds)
"Mum truck" (school run)
Delivery Van.
Work Van (closed)
Work Truck ("pick-up ")
"Utility vehicle" (anything from food truck to camper)
.
Oh, I forgot Taxi.
.
Aptera? Not so much.
I have had $100 reservation for Cybertruck since November 2019. This is a 6 passenger vehicle.
I have had $100 reservation for Canoo since May 2021. This is expected to be 6-8 passenger.
I keep an eye on option becoming available to reserve VW ID Buzz. This is expected to be 6-8 passenger.
I am also open to any other option that comes along, as long as EV and 6+ passenger.
Whichever of these will be available first at a price I can afford is what will be our 2nd EV to replace our 2015 KIA Sedona Minivan. Our 1st EV is Tesla Model 3 and gets driven as primary unless we need more than 5 passengers or cargo too big for it.
Good luck with that !
@@garyjones3142 It is just a matter of time, and I have the patience, but thank you.
OK, it looks cool, but... why is the driver so far back?? I dont get it. Couldnt the driver be 50cm further forward, giving you more load capacity?
I dont get it...
I was wondering that too. I thought that they perhaps due to the small size it's classified a certain way in the US and needs to have crumple zone in front in case of an accident. Larger vehicles that are taller are allowed to have the driver closer up front. It's a shame that all of the space is wasted, especially on the delivery vehicles. At the very least allow it to open and store the emergency gear (first aid kit, fire extinguisher, spare tire?, etc) and free up the space in the back from having to store them.
There were a bunch of companies saying they were going to do this 4 years ago. It's nice to see that Canoe actually did it BUT Back-up camera please! 11:45 doesn't look like you could deliver a 70" flat screen with that space, great for groceries and diapers though.
As a delivery driver I will suggest the most important things are how easy it is to get in and out of after all you can be getting in and out every few miles.
What is the visibility like to the rear?
1) Look at the picture.
Estimate the distance from the drivers head to the (laminated!) screen. Compare that to other vehicles (vans, etc) It's not a problem.
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2) It's a van the visibility will be via "a camera"
Vans and busses dont have "rear visibility" at all. Thats why they have huge wing mirrors and why rear cameras have been a standard feature for years on many vans. One of the first things you learn driving a van is to stop looking at the "rear view" mirror as its useless.
This vehicle's driver visibility is a huge safety factor for drivers being able to see what is immediately in front of them, in tight urban settings - e.g. small pets and children, baby strollers, etc.
I really want the dual motor pickup version of this.
Not surprised it’s getting looks and questions. Getting rid of the big engine bay design constraint shows that EVs can take the shape of whatever the task needs.
I realy like this concept. Smaller modular EV's. Price would probably begin around €37.000 in the EU.
That would be double the price of the €18.500 Xbus, that is smaller, but also a modular EV.
I hope there will be more EV's that bring something different then the endless EV line of salons and SUV's.
The Xbus isn't small.
It's TINY!
@@rogerstarkey5390 Xbus is about 4 meters long, that is not tiny at all.
(maybe for USA standards, but those cars are rediculus large= to fit the huge USA McDonald generation.)
In comparison, with the best-selling vehicle model in Europe, the Volkswagen Golf.
The Xbus is just 20cm shorter and has 15cm less width, but is 50cm higher.
Our Smart For Two, is 2.6 meters long and 1.6 meters wide. That is tiny.
I haven't stepped into a Wal Mart in over 10 years. It's a personal goal.
I really want to see the crash-test of this.
The crunching zone feels big, hope it would perform better than some frunk EVs
Excellent programme!! more Vans more Trucks more Buses these are the things that really will change the conversation everybody uses buses know and know how much Vans and Trucks are used in our society please more content would be brilliant about this side of the electric revolution or should say re-descovery !!well done !!
I have mixed feelings about this. I love the look of it. But the whole concept of Canoo was supposed to be kind of human-centric design. You can see that in the cabin for sure. But for the rear that doesnt seem to translate at all for storage for delivery. And in terms of maximizing room for deliveries, small cab-over designs like Kei trucks are definitely far more superior use of space. With a cab over design you could have far more space with an even shorter vehicle, and a proper square box. 🤷 This almost certainly has better aero than a Kei truck, but does that even matter for last mile urban delivery? You also dont need a window in the bumper of a cab-over design.
I gather this is meant not to replace a van but a minivan. Where you need _some_ cargo space but you're not delivering huge volumes of stuff per trip. Note Walmart is also buying Ford e-Transit vans, which I presume are for their higher-volume errands.
@@ps.2 Yes. I just dont think delivery van was ever something Canoo were considering when they designed it. It is very obviously an afterthought. They DO have a delivery van design and it is more boxy. It just seems like there have to be much cheaper options purpose-designed for delivery. I guess Walmart wants something that just absolutely SCREAMS "electric" even if its not the best fit.
Cab over designs died because their drivers and passengers did in far too large numbers. Kei vans and trucks could never be made to pass US safety standards. If you have a working substitute for crumple zones, you can be a billionaire, but the laws of physics are against you.
@@kylenolan2710 I have to completely disagree with you. Cab over design small and medium trucks are massively popular in the US, not to mention the rest of the world, right this very second. The driver's butt is right over the front axle. The engine is behind the axle. Whatever crash certification needs to be satisfied, they must certainly be met, otherwise these would not be everywhere. One of those built 7/8-scale with the drivetrain and fuel storage completely in the floor and you have the Canoo. Except that horribly-inefficient use of front space. I do agree with your Kei-truck point, but the culprit is that they are so lightly built and under-powered that they can't keep up with US highway traffic.
The Kanoo is certainly a good looking little van!! It’ll be ideal for conversion to a camper!!
I DO hope Canoo will be at *Fully Charged Live* so I can talk with them in person about a Wheelchair Accessible Vehicle ♿️ adaptation. They never responded to my emails or social media questions about a WAV Canoo Van. There are currently NO electric WAV vans available in USA. It will come too late for my sister with ALS👩🦼 but I want to be a WAV driver when my caregiving job is over. I want to volunteer for the ALS Association of San Diego. They've helped us A LOT. Please send them donations 🙏
The fly by wire design frontend with so much driver room looks perfect for driving from a wheelchair. Heck it seems to have enough room up there to drive from a HOSPITAL BED!
I love how it looks like it's from a sci-fi movie, I know I'll have fun getting used to that feeling when I see and hopefully own one on the roads, 1st thing I'm gonna do is listen to some futuristic sounding music and pretend I'm the hero once I'm inside.
looks great, but the loading space seems greatly reduced by design / seating position. It won't work for courier services and I think there are better / cheaper small vans for 'very' local deliveries.
Just read your comment before commenting myself.
I agree the seating position seems surprisingly far back at the expense of rear cargo space. All I see Is that huge void in front of the driver. Surely there's room for two rows of seating up there. I love the exterior look but the interior needs a rethink if they are serious about using it for cargo
Looks kinda like spots that'd fit a lot of small delivery packages, or whatever else a company uniquely needs on hand quickly 😉. Remember they removed proprietary equipment from the back for this demonstration, perhaps it's also missing equipment in the front.
Check out the Nissan E-NV200 although the range seems to be about the same as the Transit.
Suddenly all the vehicles are coming to a shape we used to watch in sci-fi movies in our childhood. The future is here.
That cabin is very cool, but it seems like a lot of wasted space. I'm guessing it's a safety thing, but that's a whole lot of nothing.
Look at the space between the driver and the windscreen in a normal car... Whole lot of wasted space?
Exactly a whole lot of nothing. Extra space - Yes. But you don't use the extra space for anything.
Would be cool to see the front glass open to utilize that frunk space.
@@ALMX5DP That's what I thought it was going to be... But nope, just left empty.
@@simonhenry7867 its a modular platform with multiple configurations.
전기차는 전기차 다워야 한다.!
혁신 적인 디자인이다.
an interesting van but I can't help thinking that there is a lot of "wasted" space at the front and that drivers with clipboards, snacks, bottles etc are going to miss the dash and cubby holes. Great to see the company making progress but I think that many of the other car/vans will thrash them on cargo space in the same sort of overall length because they've kept to their curvy pill shape.
Yeah that big front empty spacae I dont get... But that shape is imho very aero efficiant so that i get. Really important for ev.
You could see the "wasted" space in a different perspective. They want a small aerodynamic shape in front of the front axle and not fully straight cut off, probably understandable. They also want a wide driver door a minimal intrusion from the wheel bay, because the driver has to frequently get in and out, also totally reasonable. Both combined results in the open space in front of the driver which isn't really used.
Everytime I see something like this I think: Mini Campervan. Great job from Canoo.
When are they coming to the UK?? These things are amazing!!
Given that they've not yet delivered a single vehicle anywhere and were warning of impending collapse until the Walmart deal, my guess is never.
If you want tight turning circle then look no further than the Honda E!!! Rest wheel steering might be a useful bonus too. Can't help but see that big amount of front space as a wasted opportunity to move the cab forward and increase rear space, but still a good looking EV
Although the front view is great, I wonder about road debris hitting the lower window. And wouldn't that forward area be better used for additional storage?
Wait till someone has to clean the inside of that glass…
Esteemed Mr. Roy, Nice coverage! Hyper-interesting and expertly presented. You do excellent work! This is the first I have heard of Canoo, so I'm either out of the loop or it is not being reported on, but it looks significant, and I appreciate you reporting on this. It seems Walmart wants to be the new Amazon. The visibility from the driver's seat is astounding, especially low out front! I can't say I'm crazy about a square steering wheel. I don't know who to credit, but it is also very nice to see the American flag decals on the van. GO USA!
I'd choose this over ID Buzz
I would too
Buzz off !
@@garyjones3142 I know right? $60K for an electric version of the "mystery mobile?" ... Where's the love? 😥
I just hope that the glass under the windshield to be cheap to replace, there isn't a lot of bumper there, and flat as it is, a lot os rocks from the road will certainly land there. Nonetheless, I like it a lot.
Looking forward to the final specs/options/timing for the consumer 3-row version. Would be incredible for my family of 5 if Canoo can hit the right range & charging speeds to make this roadtrip-capable.
Also, is it possible to open the front-bottom window? Seems like that could be very useful frunk room, especially for long drives where you don't need to see the highway that closely.
its a giant investment by walmart for cleaning the air. they stepped up . so next time i buy i shop walmart. respect .
Even though I like Canoo and the Fully Charged Show, I have so many questions I hoped would be answered :
- Why the huge unused space in the front ? Half the length of the car is for the driver's cockpit.
- If that space is meant as crumple-zone, then I'm curious how the steering wheel etc would fold away, or something.
- As it is meant for deliveries, why is the roof (of the cargo area) so low ?
- Why the bevel at the top-rear corner ? Since the car is not meant for long distance highway driving, I'd think the design should tilt towards more cargo space, instead of better airflow.
Aerodynamics play a key role in this van's benefits and range. much of the design is to this end. the steering colum is fly by wire, so there's really not much to "fold away"
@@TwoBitDaVinci - Thank you for replying Ricky, and answering my two main questions. But I actually should have known the answers already, since you covered both in this episode. Aerodynamics do make a difference, even at lower speeds (and distances). Ik knew Canoo was prioritising efficiency, so that makes sense. When you mentioned the fly-by-wire steering it made me think the steering wheel column will be mainly empty (and probably partly telescopic?), thus less risk. Thanks, and success on the show.
This was not "meant for deliveries". It was meant for people and is being used/adapted for low volume deliveries.
Having been a camper owner in the past, I'd have liked a little less space out front. Because you mention about delivery drivers loving it, but I think they already love their tight front sections which allow sharp turns of the front of the vehicle to get in to awkward parking spots.
All that said, this is well nice!
I think the video overstates the size to cargo space area of this compared to existing vehicles. The cargo area isn't any bigger than some other small vans. Looking at electric vans a basic e-nv200(UKs most popular electric van?) it can hold 140cubic ft apparently compared to the Conoos 120 stated in this video. The e-nv200 length x width is also smaller, so the "you could not get more stuff in here in a smaller footprint" claimed in the video even sounds outright incorrect doesn't it? If i read/heard the stats correctly. The heights seem very similar too. The cool thing about this vehicle is the rest of it. If someone wanted this much(actually much more) storage space in just as small of a vehicle then it has existed for many years.
The curved back def means you are losing space compared to a box. The rear interior also seemed to have alot of swoopy plastic panels that seem like a waste of space compared to a box. I really liked the concepts for this vehicle, but it doesnt seem at all brilliant as a delivery vehicle.
We've seen vehicles like this before, where the motor goes underneath the cabin of the vehicle. This is a really common design method with Kei cars, since they have such strict dimension limitations. The big difference is that electric motors are so small, and the ancillary components can be spaced out; Unlike with ICE's where most things have to be bolted onto the engine block. This is how Canoo can make such a spacious cabin.
How accessible is the front for storage? or is it just open space only for the view?
big waste of space if so. can't help thinking a camera and screen combo would be just as useful, whilst allowing that space to be used as a frunk.
As soon as I saw the thumbnail I thought "that's gotta be a waste of space" so for the whole video I was waiting to see how to access it.
Seems like it really is just a waste of space, which for a delivery van is ridiculous!
You can see, from their website (the pickup page), that it can open. It's a frunk, door.
@@JamesGood
Wouldn't it be great if people did just a little bit of backup research before posting?
@@fatal_case_of_ligma it's accessable from the front via a glove box style opening.
But it's good that it's awkward when its open to the foot well there the drives pedals is (see 4:50 in the video) imagine when stuff from the glove box lodges itself under the pedals...
Canoo may be the most American made car you can buy. 96% of all parts are sourced in USA or allied nations. Designed to be affordable by engineering a car that will use just a fraction of the parts as compared to the status quo. Also designed with half the semiconductor chips to protect from cybersecurity. Their other vehicles are so much cooler than the delivery version shown here, but it’s cool to see Canoo out there on the street. Looking forward to these becoming fully autonomous lofts on wheels.