-finish Earth Temple -take huge hiatus from playthrough -say it's because he needs to "become more familiar" with the game, despite the fact that he's alreadly 80% through it -finally start playing it again -just as bad and promptly has to look up a guide.
***** This video would exist whether he was being an idiot just for views or he was really this stupid. I've seen this guy since he was first featured on NG, it's clear he's cashing in on the same crap that makes people like PewDiePie famous.
Fatal Temper Gaming yes anyone can critique but when someone like arin knocks a game like oot for having "bad" mechanics, even though it's his own damn fault, no one can take his "critiques" seriously anymore. He complains about there being so much waiting when fighting enemies like wolfos or stalfos even though they're pretty simple to deal with and don't take that long to deal with. A wolfos can be taken down with ONE JUMP ATTACK if you do it at the right time but arin always does the jab when it's exposed and he doesn't wait for it to attack first so he always ends up attacking when it blocks. Same with stalfos you can stun it right after it attacks, and arin has tried it with the hookshot, but he misses most of the time and just completely disregards the deku nuts because he sees them as pointless unless you're trying to be more "technical". And he does the same thing with stalfos like when he attacks a wolfos, he only does the jab and just swings his sword mindlessly even though it's blocking. He talks about how he loves it when a game doesn't tell you much and you have to find out what you're supposed to do, but when it DOES tell him what to do, he always ignores the dialogue and doesn't know what to do and then he completely contradicts himself when he complains about a game not telling him what to do. I could go on but this comment's already longer than it should be.
Everyone kinda is. I mean I've played that game multiple times, I don't like it. :/ It's a good game, I just don't like it (and I'm not very good at it)
I would love if someone took Arin's Sequelitis on Zelda, and spliced it with clips from this. Just to demonstrate the contradiction in his play style and what he says in that video.
@@mniscmoney It is quite honestly unbelievable that these guys respect the games they play even less than him. And on a simple game that is really likeable such as Wind Waker? Wtf dudes
Arin shouldn’t be doing anything he’s doing because it’s just louder, clumsier, and will be subpar compared to literally anyone else who even attempts whatever it is that he does.
Exact reason why Arins Sequalitis should be disregarded since it is blatantly obvious that he 1. Has a huge nostalgia boner for 2d games 2. Is incapable of playing 3d games 3. Blames the games for him being bad.
Über eXe Über comeback mate. He has some good points but without equal criticism to LttP his opinions are invalid. By the way have you ever made a video game before?
The guy who bitched that Ocarina of Time was "dumbing down of Zelda" is now struggling to play through one of the easiest Zelda games. Not only that, it the remake that makes it even easier...
YokusaHHart An average scene with these clods... Game Character: Hey, I think you should go *Here* and use *This Item* [Arin and Dan make a joke that goes on too long and stops being funny instead of listening to the dialogue] Arin: WHAT AM I DOING, WHERE DO I GO!!! Dan: Maybe we should tell more jokes, because we're so le funny! [Arin literally runs round in circles and talks to every other NPC except the important one] Dan: Hold on, instead of listening to the game and solving this for ourselves, lets make more jokes so our comments will be filled with people parroting them. [Jump cut where they obviously use a walkthrough] Arin: [Starts beat boxing and rapping like a 12 year old who just heard who 50 cent was.] Dan: OK, so we need to go *Here* and use *this item*. Arin: WHY DIDN'T THIS GAME TELL US WHAT TO DO!! THIS GAME SUCKS!!! MUH LINK TO THE PAST!! MUH GAMEFEEL [shoves the money he makes into the folds of his 12 chins].
+YokusaHHart TLDR: Arin: "Games shouldn't hold your hand, it's annoying and pointless!" Game: "Go *here* and do *this thing*" Arin: "... _WHERE DO I GO, THERE SHOULD BE A WAYPOINT, ISS BHAD GAEM DESIGIN!_"
There are famous mainstream professional movie critics who have proven themselves to not understand a lot of movies with some dumb reviews. Arin is like that but tenfold.
People like Arin are the reason why the Zelda games have Navi and Fi, and hold your hand every step of the way. They'll refuse to read and/or think, then bitch about the game when they fail.
Rob Brain Sorry, I got a thousand yard stare when I read “the third dimension was intimidating to a lot of people”. I’m just speechless at this. I mean YOU EXIST THE THIRD DIMENSION!!!
@@Orois im also in shock because your comment is almost incoherent lol. they mean in video games, obviously. do you not know that OOT was the first 3D zelda game?
Contrary to what he likes to think and repeat ad nauseum, people don't have an issue with Arin's lack of skill, but his attitude. He doesn't ever get better because he doesn't take criticism well, he's unwilling to read and he's terrible at noticing conveyance when a game offers it. And yet a lot of 13-year olds consider him an "authority" on game design of sorts.
ArGG! I didn't care at all about him messing stuff up with Jon (maybe a little, but barely) because their banter was entertaining. That's the main attraction. But his chemistry with Dan is pretty nill imo. They sound like they're constantly TRYING to be funny, instead of it flowing naturally.
That's the difference between him and Dan. Everyone knows Dan has sat out on a lot of video game development for a decade or two so I feel like people are willing to cut him more slack if he doesn't get something, but even then as the Paper mario playthrough demonstrates he is MUCH more willing to take advice than Arin is
Someone needs to splice cips of the Zelda Sequelitis into this, particularly the segments like "Zelda is formulaic and easy" and the bit about dungeon weapons being obvious.
1:44:50 Remember in Sequelitis how Arin complains about the spinning spike pucks and how he always gets hit by them because he can't see them coming? Guess it doesn't matter whether or not he can see them, he just sucks at timing.
st0pnsw0p He could also always see them when he entered the room in OOT. He just sucks and lied to influence people's opinions who haven't played the game.
1:44:48 "In the original Zelda you could see that shit!" "In A Link to the Past you could see that shit!" "In Wind Waker, ooooooooOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSSS??!!!" ~Egoraptors recent sequelitis video
I know what you mean, but I'm subscribed out of habit. It's hard, having longstanding loyalty and other pointless shit like that. The only good members of the crew these days are Barry and Danny. But it's getting to the point where it's just so damn bland and boring where I'm seriously considering unsubbing. What happened Arin?
@@qwertyuiop2010 Can anyone explain to me what happened to Barry? I heard he doesn't talk to the rest of the old Grumps and Arin and Dan anymore but I never found out what happened
FFH I think you missed the point he was making in the Sequelitis. The section of gameplay between getting the Big Key in ALTTP and travelling to the item chest is still suspenseful, but in a different way as watching a non-interactive cutscene. Of course it's still up to your own personal tastes to help you decide which method you prefer (as Arin basically said himself at the end of the video) but my point is that they're still both perfectly viable methods of conveying tension in a game. Go back to the video and listen to his wording carefully - I think his preference has got more to do with the rule of 'show, don't tell' than his ADHD. He specifically says 'I don't wanna just see Link being excited; I wanna be excited'. I agree that Arin drew quite a few short-sighted conclusions in his analysis, but that definitely wasn't one of 'em.
It's not even the fact he lacks skill that hurts so much watching this, it's: 1. His pride in his inability to solve puzzles. Like he says "I'm stupid ok" and "Bet we're going to get comments about this" but... joking about a flaw doesn't make the flaw go away. If he admitted he struggles with games and didn't yell or blame the game for his difficulty with the puzzles it'd be much more tolerable. It's not the game's fault. 2. The absolute hypocrisy. 3. This is probably a personal thing but i loathe that "sassy" stereotypically gay voice they both pull.
It's too bad Danny rarely ever plays the single-player games on GG, I have a feeling he'd be a lot more competent than Arin. Wind Waker and Shadow the Hedgehog were physically painful to watch. He hasn't played many games since the 90's but I think he'd at least get better at the games he's playing over time.
Dan's a bit weak spirited and bad at modern games, but incompetence is 10X better than Arin's condition and stubborness, atleast with any game involving a basic puzzle.
The one time I'm with them is that part where you have to roll into the Deku Tree. I know I had to look that shit up when I first played this. The clue the game gives you doesn't really help either. Also, I was babysitting a ten year old kid once and we played this game. He loves Nintendo games and he was totally into it, but he didn't have the patience to read directions so he would just mash A whenever there was text on the screen and run around until he got stuck and I had to tell him what to do next. I'm seeing a lot of similarities in playstyle here.
I love the game grumps, but they totally deserved this. Their Wind Waker run was utterly cringeworthy, and the way Arin acts throughout the entire playthrough only confirms him as a total hypocrite in light of his newest Sequelitis.
What gets me the most about this amazing show of skill is that they do the bare minimum required to beat the game. Zero exploration at all in a very exploration heavy game, their sea chart is almost totally blank, they've made no attempt to get heart pieces, and they're STILL at low magic. The whole thing just comes off as a rushed playthrough for a game he clearly doesn't like to get that RUclips money.
rico anderson I'm not asking for a 100% perfect run, but they didn't even look like they were having fun at all. Getting stuck on things a 7 year old would figure out, looking up guides for everything, and ignoring the main thing the game has going for it, exploration.
***** sure they had a "few" hiccups but I think this video was uncalled for in my opinion >.> concidering the grumps have only had 2-3 bad play throughs (sanic adventure, LoZ:WW and battle kid...or atleast towards the end of battle kid...)
Trying to defend this is like a child taking his/her parents to court for them grounding them for stealing candy from a store. You just don't do it. You can call me a fanboy, but this game is piss easy on Normal Mode. Was I expecting 100%? No. Was I expecting compitence? Yes, in fact. From two grown men who are apparently too stupid to see the instructions on the top right corner of the screen. If you can't see that, you've got problems. That aside, their jokes are only slightly better than the infamous DSP, but that doesn't mean a damn. They are still annoying, and quite personally, Arin should've given this playthrough to someone else better at Zelda than him. I don't care if this was just two guys having fun, that does not excuse stupidity. Thank you for tuning in to Dale's Rant Time.
Arin complains that 3D Zelda games became about waiting and don't have the same flow as the 2D ones did, and he blames Z-targeting for that. But come on man, you can't wear those rose-tinted glasses forever. If you play a game that you yourself admit is slower paced, maybe you should get on the game's level instead of trying to play every zelda game the exact same way. Every Zelda game, hell - any game in general can be piss easy if you take the time to play the way the game expects you to instead of trying to play it in a way you think it SHOULD be played. And 3D Zelda games are not worse than the 2D ones for this change in gameplay style, just as how making a game more balanced and fair through fixing its physics does not automatically make it worse than a previous one (Super Castlevania IV versus the first NES game) And on the topic of tutorials, Arin has recently died a couple of times on the tutorial and first couple levels of Mario Galaxy 1, despite obviously having played it before. Games nowadays have these overlong tutorials and have to explain everything because people like him pay very little attention to what's going on around them it's one of the reasons why I miss having Jon around, because he at least was able to call Arin out on his lack of attention while Dan just soaks it in
1:22:45 "You enter a dungeon, halfway through you get an item that helps you through the other half of the dungeon, and then you use that item on the boss to render it hit-able." "Oh I got a slingshot! Maybe I hit some big glowing object with a slingshot. Oh a mirror shield that lets me reflect light at stuff. Maybe the boss is gonna be some dude I gotta reflect light at." -Arin Hanson ...Shut up if you're not even going to follow your own comments.
"I do not think any lesser of someone if they can't figure something out." Neither do I, sometimes something that should be completely obvious just doesn't click and that's fine. But if the reason they can't figure it out is because they're actively refusing to pay attention, and if they then blame the game for being poorly designed ... that's a different story.
**Every 3D Zelda game** Danny: Wow, this is so clever and cool-- Arin: NO IT ISN'T, IT'S STUPID, I HATE IT, AND I WANT TO BE DONE WITH IT. Danny: Oh, this story is- Arin: BLAHLBLAH BLAH SKIPPING EVERYTHING Danny: This side story is neat- Arin: BORING. WHO CARES. MOVING ON! Also Arin: UGH WHY ARE THESE GAMES SO HARD, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO, THIS GAME IS SO TEDIOUS AND BORING. I HATE IT. ARGH!
+rico “the man” anderson Can you name a good playthrough they did? One that isn't from a game thats older than the N64? I honestly wanna know, like this isn't an insult or anything. I'm just struggling to find any appeal to these guys that isn't Mega man or something.
HumanipodV6 Well in my opinion: Sonic 06' (well as good as they could be with a broken game) Super mario galaxy. Pokemon fire red (unfortunately status remains incomplete but they are literally like 5 episodes away from finishing.) Shadow of the colossus (tho I will admit they did have a few episodes were Danny didnt make alot of progress). Punch Out wii (had maybe 1 or 2 episodes where they didnt advance but they beat it pretty fast). They have others but I cant remember them right now, and to keep it fair I didnt mention stuff from there two side-shows "grumpcade" and "steam train".
Well long story short fame. People openly lose their shit on Phil for his incompetence because he doesn't have history or fame (for all I know) for doing anything, whereas Arin was an icon on Newgrounds, and continued to be one on RUclips. This is one of the biggest things I hate on RUclips, just because someone has a bit of fame or history, we can't judge him/her on the same scale as everyone else. You are immune to criticism and no matter what you do it's completely justified (the very rare exception being Naughty Bear).
Because the Game Grumps have senses of humor that aren't equivalent to the first shit I ever took. I'm not defending them, since they still suck ass, but Phil's worse.
What the fuck is with Erin's absolute fascination with the hookshot and leaf. Like, the man outright FORGETS the bow and arrow and boomerang exist because one of those two or three things HAS to be the solution. Hell throwing jars comes to mind before anything else to him.
He gives away his thought process during Majora's Mask. It's because he wants to play the game "his way." He's in the phase where he thinks he should be able to play a game in whatever fashion he wants, not realizing that you have to *master* the basics and the game before you can fuck around with it and come up with something new. He just sees all the silly things people do in games and speedruns and wants to emulate that, or come up with his own shit when he hasn't even mastered the game itself. He doesn't realize the hours of practice these people put into the game, and just assumes it's easy to do. On top of that he assumes that anything can be killed by anything for some stupid reason.
Can you please do This is How you don't play Fire Red" for the GameGrumps, please. Of course when its finish. It's a complete trainwreck of unimagined proportion.
Veranio Fucking THIS. Those videos made me hate arin so much, every time he used that fucking angry/determined/idon'tevenknowhowtodescribeit voice in a fucking battle I wanted to turn my computer off.
It was amazing how two people could spend over an hour searching for bombs to open a cave on Outset Island, being constantly reminded of their task, with a walkthrough in their lap; to still be standing outside the cave entrance with the bombs going "alright, how do we get in?"
I would hate playing video games with Arin, I'm a patient person, but Arin's lack of understanding and incapability to learn simplistic game mechanics would just suck out all the fun of exploring a game and learning about it. Also, Arin's hatred of the cinematic experiences of Zelda just baffles me for someone who enjoys exploration and the point of the previous Zelda games.
tbh, this playthrough wasent even bad. whoever uploaded was kinda bein a D-bag over some fuck ups arin and danny did on a chill playthrough. (then again 90% of the grumps fanbase are kinda assholes because they mistake "playthrough" for "walkthrough" then get pissy the minute one mistake is made.) but its not a big deal to me, I'll support all the grumps, they are hilarious and cool people.
"You have to hold the stop button ... AND hold UP." Oh Arin, I see why you were having so much trouble with this. God forbid the game makes you press two buttons at once to perform an action. Clearly that's something that nobody would think to try.
This video made their playthrough bearable because it points out their shortcomings. Its like watching 6 year old me play the first time, except little kid me actually knew how to read and i beat it quicker than these guys ever could.
My god, Arins views on game design just infuriate me. Especially that "Dont give any hints" bullshit. But this was all covered in the video so I wont go into it. I still love Game Grumps, but my god.
2:22 It's pretentious shit like this that makes me wonder if ANYONE ever considers that they put this stuff in for your first Zelda game. Hell, just your first video game, period. "Yeah, I already know all of this. I've played all the Zelda games." Firstly Arin, you may have, but you may need to read everything again. Secondly, you may have, but not everyone will have.
Late comment but I've realized the greatest art/movies/books/videogames assumes you know nothing about it in the first place. Which is how they become great studies on what to do. There's a nuance to teaching/talking to the masses that are mixed with both the highly intelligent and the completely unaware at the same time.
Convenient how Arin says he only likes Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds, which he made his cohosts play. He could be incompetent on all Zeldas for all we know
When I was 7-8, the hardest part of Wind Waker for me was the Forsaken Fortress I was shit-pants terrified of that place when I first arrived (I was but a mere fuccboi back then) The rest of the game was damn easy for me, a child Why? Because I paid attention to dialogue, put point A to point B to figure out puzzles, and was cautious in battle Oh, Jabun is at the island of my birth? Hmm... that would be Outset, I'd better go quickly Oh, the statues can weigh down this platform? Better think... Link = 1 statue, Goddess Statue = 1 statue... therefore I need 3 statues to weigh this down so I can cross Oh, Darknuts coming to fuck my shit up? Better whip out my sword, stay targeted, and wait for the parry Seriously, if an 8 year old child can do it without a guide, so can an adult I cringed over how stupid they were in situations where the course of action needed was PAINFULLY obvious "WHY CAN'T I ATTACK, I WAS TARGETING" "WHY CAN'T I MAKE THIS JUMP" "WHY DID I FALL" Arin's slowly becoming DSP, it's hardly laughable
Arin says that looking around a room to find a crystal you have to wack or an eye that you have to shoot isn't a puzzle because it isn't hard. Then he spends about ten minutes in a room where that was pretty much the puzzle.
He has also said that waiting for an enemy isn't difficult "It's difficult to mess up" while showing footage of the clam enemy and to quote the Ocarina playthrough "FUCKING CLAM!"
that part with the guy playing dark souls really pisses me off >no dodge rolling out of the way of an enemy attack, >doesn't know how to preform kicks and jump attacks >blames the game
This is like watching 2 stoners who have never played video games or read a book in their lives, try to play a video game and follow basic instructions.
The fact that it takes Lucahjin, someone more casual with games, less than half as much time to beat any game COMEPLETELY BLIND compared to Arin, a self proclaimed critic of video games, speaks so much about Arin. Also what the fuck is half of these conversations?
Fast-forward to now, he's not doing it for Twilight Princess HD either. And of course, he's complaining about having to talk to Midna to switch between Human and Wolf form.
Not gonna lie, it's thanks to Arin that I've ever seen what happens when the timer runs out on Fire Island. I've never seen that cutscene before, and I've played this game so many times! Edit: And that's the first time seeing the cutscene for failing at Ice Island! I never knew those cutscenes even existed! I figured it would just fade to black like when falling down a bottomless pit and reset the timer.
Nah, mostly just Arin. I love Danny, he's a cool guy. But he doesn't seem to know as much about modern games as Jon does since he skipped the N64 era. So unfortunately whenever Arin says something unfathomably retarded/hypocritical, Danny just eats it up without question whereas Jon would at least call him out on it.
"A Piece of Heart? But I want the Swift Sail, I'm not going to try to win this!" ...Unless you're doing a three-heart run, which they clearly aren't doing here, why in the world would you EVER pass up the opportunity to extend your heart meter?! EDIT: WAIT. WAIT. *WAIT.* Are you fucking saying that he forgot how to beat a boss that he JUST GOT DONE BEATING IN THE FORM OF JALHALLA?! Okay, it's one thing to not pay attention to something right in front of you like that fucking button that turns the downward wind gusts off at the beginning of the Wind Temple, but to forget something that you already did recently AND be dumber than a god damn newborn in figuring out how to beat the boss that you JUST GOT DONE BEATING?! HOLY FUCK, Arin, I never realized just HOW MUCH YOU COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ADVENTURE GAMES LIKE ZELDA. I'm sorry for all the caps lock, but shit like this really makes my blood boil, especially since I'm a die-hard Zelda fan myself. This seriously is DSP levels of fucking inept, I swear to God.
Arin most certainly is, but his commonality with DSP isn't in how bad he is, but his inability to learn how to play and how he blames other things rather than acknowledge his ineptitude.
It's because Arin doesn't like being told what to do so he skips parts telling him what to do, but when he gets to a part where he has to figure out what to do, he blames the game for a lack of direction.
This kind of shit is why I unsubbed from them years ago. Jon could navigate 3d space while Danny can't and doesn't even try. And while Arin can, he has no patience which impedes his progress more than if he just paid a sliver of attention. And the "I'm an idiot but this is bs" excuse consistently used in this and Majora is the most aggravating thing. Jon and Arin worked because they both played games, had differing opinions, and would express that. Imagine if Jon were there in place of Danny: less Yes man, more games played between them, less excuse making, more patience from Arin since he doesn't have to play every 3d game.
7:30 No, those graphics aren't improved. Characters models aren't different, the blur goes against the idea behind the cell-shading, and the original game will actually look less dated in a couple of years than this version. 12:05 Ironically, Arin is probably someone like that. 24:48 That's because in earlier Zelda games, it was a Hookshot, not a Grapling Hook.
Honestly this version still looks good No idea why people always have to be like “ uh askually this remaster will look worse than the OG eventually” when its already been years and it still looks good
It's almost impressive how incapable Arin is of thinking he might ever be doing things wrong. Just keep doing the same thing over and over, surely it'll work *this* time
I think the crowning stupidity moment in WW for them was thinking the Firefly was a fucking fairy. Also something thats infuriating is that he always complains when he dies. But wherever theres an opportunity to get a Piece of Heart he doesnt want it.
For those dissing the guy who made this this ..Arin opened himself up when he stuck out his opinion,if he had good opinions and wasn't biased and contradicting in his statements than yeah he wouldn't deserve to get ripped on
Bingo. There's a reason why the majority of their fans are super-obsessed weirdos, and it aint because they're comedy legends or musical prodigies. These guys are proxy friends for hopeless losers the world over.
This isn't even close to them at their worst. It doesn't include all the terrible things they've done outside of Let's Plays that other compilations like this show. But yes, the comments on their videos are infuriating.
this is why i stopped watching gamegrumps and started watching tbfp, they have the same style, in that thry have two commentators talking about random stuff over the video, but they dont do the shit that arin does, and they pay attention to what the fuck is going on in the game
The irony of Egoraptor complaining about hand-holding and long tutorials in games is absolutely enough to drown people.
-finish Earth Temple
-take huge hiatus from playthrough
-say it's because he needs to "become more familiar" with the game, despite the fact that he's alreadly 80% through it
-finally start playing it again
-just as bad and promptly has to look up a guide.
Every time Dan says something nice about the game Arin just mumbles like he doesn't want to agree but has to.
So we can all agree that every single thing he says in Sequelitis now means jack shit, yeah?
His Megaman seemed like he knew he was talking about but his Zelda one right? Yeah.
yes
He's the reason games like the ones he was complaining about exist.
So, because he acts like an idiot for views when playing WW means his opinion of OoT is invalid?
Potpourri
If it were an act, we wouldn't have this video, and we both fucking know that.
***** This video would exist whether he was being an idiot just for views or he was really this stupid.
I've seen this guy since he was first featured on NG, it's clear he's cashing in on the same crap that makes people like PewDiePie famous.
Only Arin could make Wind Waker look like Dark Souls
Ikr? Wind waker is easy as fuck.
Alex Umana Bit irrelevant really
Deathclaw12 DSP makes it look like shit
and at the same time make dark souls look like wind waker
This is the man who felt he was qualified to critique Ocarina of Time.
Facet Half of why I appreciate this video being made.
Anyone can critique ocarina of time since when do u need a qualification
Fatal Temper Gaming yes anyone can critique but when someone like arin knocks a game like oot for having "bad" mechanics, even though it's his own damn fault, no one can take his "critiques" seriously anymore. He complains about there being so much waiting when fighting enemies like wolfos or stalfos even though they're pretty simple to deal with and don't take that long to deal with. A wolfos can be taken down with ONE JUMP ATTACK if you do it at the right time but arin always does the jab when it's exposed and he doesn't wait for it to attack first so he always ends up attacking when it blocks. Same with stalfos you can stun it right after it attacks, and arin has tried it with the hookshot, but he misses most of the time and just completely disregards the deku nuts because he sees them as pointless unless you're trying to be more "technical". And he does the same thing with stalfos like when he attacks a wolfos, he only does the jab and just swings his sword mindlessly even though it's blocking. He talks about how he loves it when a game doesn't tell you much and you have to find out what you're supposed to do, but when it DOES tell him what to do, he always ignores the dialogue and doesn't know what to do and then he completely contradicts himself when he complains about a game not telling him what to do. I could go on but this comment's already longer than it should be.
Everyone kinda is. I mean I've played that game multiple times, I don't like it. :/ It's a good game, I just don't like it (and I'm not very good at it)
Its funny, its 2018, ive seen them play OOT and Majoras.....you will see how right you were
I would love if someone took Arin's Sequelitis on Zelda, and spliced it with clips from this. Just to demonstrate the contradiction in his play style and what he says in that video.
DenkitekiKesshiRune check out the OoT one.
HugoTheIcyFire has you covered
It's pretty sad when DSP managed to figure out most of these puzzles faster.
I think watching DSP is more entertaining to watch in all honesty, and that's saying something.
Some Dude Jesus, yeah, that says A LOT
@@Taigen419 True lol
In all honesty, I have seriously gotten more unironic laughs from Phil than I ever have the Game Grumps.
@@mniscmoney It is quite honestly unbelievable that these guys respect the games they play even less than him. And on a simple game that is really likeable such as Wind Waker? Wtf dudes
Arin is never allowed to criticize 3D Zelda
Ever again
shouldn't be allowed to criticize any games really
Arin shouldn’t be doing anything he’s doing because it’s just louder, clumsier, and will be subpar compared to literally anyone else who even attempts whatever it is that he does.
He's allowed to have an opinion. But it'll always be wrong
The guy who made Sequelitis, everyone.
It explains why he hates 3D Zelda games. He DESPISES waiting and reading dialogue.
Exact reason why Arins Sequalitis should be disregarded since it is blatantly obvious that he 1. Has a huge nostalgia boner for 2d games 2. Is incapable of playing 3d games 3. Blames the games for him being bad.
Über eXe Über comeback mate. He has some good points but without equal criticism to LttP his opinions are invalid. By the way have you ever made a video game before?
Über eXe You should release a closed alpha, and then kickstarter it.
Implying Arin knows crap about game design...
I fully disregard the opinion of a man who fails to realize that HE is the problem with the situation he is calling flawed.
Über eXe him parroting what knowledgeable people say does not make him one of them.
The guy who bitched that Ocarina of Time was "dumbing down of Zelda" is now struggling to play through one of the easiest Zelda games. Not only that, it the remake that makes it even easier...
YokusaHHart An average scene with these clods...
Game Character: Hey, I think you should go *Here* and use *This Item*
[Arin and Dan make a joke that goes on too long and stops being funny instead of listening to the dialogue]
Arin: WHAT AM I DOING, WHERE DO I GO!!!
Dan: Maybe we should tell more jokes, because we're so le funny!
[Arin literally runs round in circles and talks to every other NPC except the important one]
Dan: Hold on, instead of listening to the game and solving this for ourselves, lets make more jokes so our comments will be filled with people parroting them.
[Jump cut where they obviously use a walkthrough]
Arin: [Starts beat boxing and rapping like a 12 year old who just heard who 50 cent was.]
Dan: OK, so we need to go *Here* and use *this item*.
Arin: WHY DIDN'T THIS GAME TELL US WHAT TO DO!! THIS GAME SUCKS!!! MUH LINK TO THE PAST!! MUH GAMEFEEL [shoves the money he makes into the folds of his 12 chins].
+YokusaHHart TLDR:
Arin: "Games shouldn't hold your hand, it's annoying and pointless!"
Game: "Go *here* and do *this thing*"
Arin: "... _WHERE DO I GO, THERE SHOULD BE A WAYPOINT, ISS BHAD GAEM DESIGIN!_"
+YokusaHHart eh, that's kinda incorrect regarding Dan. Dan just sorta takes a backseat to Arin's stupidity.
+ToastyMozart and this is how point marker was born.
And now he's struggling to play through the "dumbing down of Zelda".
And this guy considers himself a game design critic.
There are famous mainstream professional movie critics who have proven themselves to not understand a lot of movies with some dumb reviews. Arin is like that but tenfold.
People like Arin are the reason why the Zelda games have Navi and Fi, and hold your hand every step of the way. They'll refuse to read and/or think, then bitch about the game when they fail.
Rob Brain Sorry, I got a thousand yard stare when I read “the third dimension was intimidating to a lot of people”. I’m just speechless at this. I mean YOU EXIST THE THIRD DIMENSION!!!
Orois favorite thing I’ve read all day lol
@KAIYO shut up you just defending stupidness you troll
@@Orois im also in shock because your comment is almost incoherent lol. they mean in video games, obviously. do you not know that OOT was the first 3D zelda game?
@@bigbadgammagnomeWhile valid, I’m not sure it’s exactly correct when games like Super Mario 64 came before Ocarina of Time.
Contrary to what he likes to think and repeat ad nauseum, people don't have an issue with Arin's lack of skill, but his attitude. He doesn't ever get better because he doesn't take criticism well, he's unwilling to read and he's terrible at noticing conveyance when a game offers it. And yet a lot of 13-year olds consider him an "authority" on game design of sorts.
ArGG! What’s worse is I’ve heard some colleges show sequelitts in game design class
ArGG! I didn't care at all about him messing stuff up with Jon (maybe a little, but barely) because their banter was entertaining. That's the main attraction. But his chemistry with Dan is pretty nill imo. They sound like they're constantly TRYING to be funny, instead of it flowing naturally.
@@kylecampbell565 Then I hope those classes have smart students who can point out everything wrong with it.
AkameGaKillfan777 I’m praying for that
That's the difference between him and Dan.
Everyone knows Dan has sat out on a lot of video game development for a decade or two so I feel like people are willing to cut him more slack if he doesn't get something, but even then as the Paper mario playthrough demonstrates he is MUCH more willing to take advice than Arin is
Someone needs to splice cips of the Zelda Sequelitis into this, particularly the segments like "Zelda is formulaic and easy" and the bit about dungeon weapons being obvious.
I think what Arin meant by a "black glow" is commonly known as a shadow
1:44:50
Remember in Sequelitis how Arin complains about the spinning spike pucks and how he always gets hit by them because he can't see them coming? Guess it doesn't matter whether or not he can see them, he just sucks at timing.
st0pnsw0p He could also always see them when he entered the room in OOT. He just sucks and lied to influence people's opinions who haven't played the game.
In his defense(Surprise) he did say that if there was a point he could take out in his OoT SEQUELITIS, it would be the point about the pucks.
The whole time Danny sounds like an overenthusiastic uncle trying to be supportive of Arin
Ya if Danny would play these games it would fix it alot tbh.
Especially when he raps.
"What did squids do to Miyamoto when he was a child? "
Shot paintballs at him
Complain about Z-Targeting and wonder why they struggle at combat. Yep.
Of course he can't drop things, slide down the rope, or cruise. That requires him to press the shield button.
I think Arin dropped out of high school not because he wasn't into it but because he lacks the capability to learn.
Dude, my little brother is autistic and even he was able to beat Zelda games with less trouble than these guys when we were kids.
+Brie no.20
Autism doesn't make you bad at Zelda games, except maybe if you have an extreme case.
theuncalledfor I never said that autism makes you bad at games.
Brie no.20
You _heavily_ implied it.
theuncalledfor No I didn't. I said that someone could beat a game despite having a disability, not that disability makes you bad at a game.
I like how whenever a dialogue box appears you can hear the frantic tapping caused by his precious ADHD driven self being scared of reading.
1:44:48
"In the original Zelda you could see that shit!"
"In A Link to the Past you could see that shit!"
"In Wind Waker, ooooooooOOOOOOOPPPPPPPPSSSSSS??!!!"
~Egoraptors recent sequelitis video
Now I remember why I unsubscribed from Game Grumps...
I know what you mean, but I'm subscribed out of habit. It's hard, having longstanding loyalty and other pointless shit like that. The only good members of the crew these days are Barry and Danny. But it's getting to the point where it's just so damn bland and boring where I'm seriously considering unsubbing. What happened Arin?
Bolt of Beef Agreed. Except replace Barry with Ross. Barry's just kind of... there now that he's a main grump.
ItsSomeDeadGuy this comment didnt age well...
@@qwertyuiop2010 yeah...
@@qwertyuiop2010 Can anyone explain to me what happened to Barry? I heard he doesn't talk to the rest of the old Grumps and Arin and Dan anymore but I never found out what happened
Also, you don't have the patience to sit through a 5 second cutscene when you open a chest? Seriously?
Egoraptor has ADHD and seems to only understand instant gratification. He doesn't seem to understand or enjoy any aspect of tension in a game.
FFH I think you missed the point he was making in the Sequelitis. The section of gameplay between getting the Big Key in ALTTP and travelling to the item chest is still suspenseful, but in a different way as watching a non-interactive cutscene. Of course it's still up to your own personal tastes to help you decide which method you prefer (as Arin basically said himself at the end of the video) but my point is that they're still both perfectly viable methods of conveying tension in a game. Go back to the video and listen to his wording carefully - I think his preference has got more to do with the rule of 'show, don't tell' than his ADHD. He specifically says 'I don't wanna just see Link being excited; I wanna be excited'.
I agree that Arin drew quite a few short-sighted conclusions in his analysis, but that definitely wasn't one of 'em.
I'm a diehard Zelda fan, and enjoy most games in the series, but I agree that the 5 second chest cutscenes have gotten annoying.
OH NO FIVE SECONDS OF WAITING
FIVE SECONDS OF NOT PRESSING ANYTHING
MY AUTISTIC LITTLE FINGERS CAN’T TAKE IT
@@superextremehappy I have ADHD and I never had a problem sitting through the cutscenes where Link opens treasure chests.
It's not even the fact he lacks skill that hurts so much watching this, it's:
1. His pride in his inability to solve puzzles. Like he says "I'm stupid ok" and "Bet we're going to get comments about this" but... joking about a flaw doesn't make the flaw go away. If he admitted he struggles with games and didn't yell or blame the game for his difficulty with the puzzles it'd be much more tolerable. It's not the game's fault.
2. The absolute hypocrisy.
3. This is probably a personal thing but i loathe that "sassy" stereotypically gay voice they both pull.
It's too bad Danny rarely ever plays the single-player games on GG, I have a feeling he'd be a lot more competent than Arin. Wind Waker and Shadow the Hedgehog were physically painful to watch.
He hasn't played many games since the 90's but I think he'd at least get better at the games he's playing over time.
Dan's a bit weak spirited and bad at modern games, but incompetence is 10X better than Arin's condition and stubborness, atleast with any game involving a basic puzzle.
I feel like danny would learn how to do things faster in this than arin
Remember when Arin said OoT wasn't difficult enough?
The one time I'm with them is that part where you have to roll into the Deku Tree. I know I had to look that shit up when I first played this. The clue the game gives you doesn't really help either.
Also, I was babysitting a ten year old kid once and we played this game. He loves Nintendo games and he was totally into it, but he didn't have the patience to read directions so he would just mash A whenever there was text on the screen and run around until he got stuck and I had to tell him what to do next. I'm seeing a lot of similarities in playstyle here.
I love the game grumps, but they totally deserved this. Their Wind Waker run was utterly cringeworthy, and the way Arin acts throughout the entire playthrough only confirms him as a total hypocrite in light of his newest Sequelitis.
What gets me the most about this amazing show of skill is that they do the bare minimum required to beat the game. Zero exploration at all in a very exploration heavy game, their sea chart is almost totally blank, they've made no attempt to get heart pieces, and they're STILL at low magic. The whole thing just comes off as a rushed playthrough for a game he clearly doesn't like to get that RUclips money.
Indeed... Even I've seen people take their times to even complete the fucking Nintendo Gallery during a playthrough.
geez you act like this was supposed to be a 100% complete walkthrough. all game grumps is, is two dudes playin and havin a good time ffs.
rico anderson
I'm not asking for a 100% perfect run, but they didn't even look like they were having fun at all. Getting stuck on things a 7 year old would figure out, looking up guides for everything, and ignoring the main thing the game has going for it, exploration.
***** sure they had a "few" hiccups but I think this video was uncalled for in my opinion >.> concidering the grumps have only had 2-3 bad play throughs (sanic adventure, LoZ:WW and battle kid...or atleast towards the end of battle kid...)
Trying to defend this is like a child taking his/her parents to court for them grounding them for stealing candy from a store. You just don't do it. You can call me a fanboy, but this game is piss easy on Normal Mode. Was I expecting 100%? No. Was I expecting compitence? Yes, in fact. From two grown men who are apparently too stupid to see the instructions on the top right corner of the screen. If you can't see that, you've got problems. That aside, their jokes are only slightly better than the infamous DSP, but that doesn't mean a damn. They are still annoying, and quite personally, Arin should've given this playthrough to someone else better at Zelda than him. I don't care if this was just two guys having fun, that does not excuse stupidity. Thank you for tuning in to Dale's Rant Time.
I honestly think it would've gone A LOT better had Dan been playing.
Arin complains that 3D Zelda games became about waiting and don't have the same flow as the 2D ones did, and he blames Z-targeting for that.
But come on man, you can't wear those rose-tinted glasses forever. If you play a game that you yourself admit is slower paced, maybe you should get on the game's level instead of trying to play every zelda game the exact same way.
Every Zelda game, hell - any game in general can be piss easy if you take the time to play the way the game expects you to instead of trying to play it in a way you think it SHOULD be played.
And 3D Zelda games are not worse than the 2D ones for this change in gameplay style, just as how making a game more balanced and fair through fixing its physics does not automatically make it worse than a previous one (Super Castlevania IV versus the first NES game)
And on the topic of tutorials, Arin has recently died a couple of times on the tutorial and first couple levels of Mario Galaxy 1, despite obviously having played it before. Games nowadays have these overlong tutorials and have to explain everything because people like him pay very little attention to what's going on around them
it's one of the reasons why I miss having Jon around, because he at least was able to call Arin out on his lack of attention while Dan just soaks it in
wait, this isn't dsp?
Maybe his psyche split in two, as it is now 2 idiots playing.
Goblintom
DSP's child.
Xx420_NoScoPeZ_420xX MLG That's so possible yes, but wait, that means he can reproduce... OH SHIT!
Goblintom
MOM DIDNT TELL ME I COULD GET A CHILD! LIFE IS BUGGED
Xx420_NoScoPeZ_420xX MLG xD
Seems Arin didn’t see the box’s warning “basic reading ability is required to fully enjoy this game
1:22:45
"You enter a dungeon, halfway through you get an item that helps you through the other half of the dungeon, and then you use that item on the boss to render it hit-able."
"Oh I got a slingshot! Maybe I hit some big glowing object with a slingshot. Oh a mirror shield that lets me reflect light at stuff. Maybe the boss is gonna be some dude I gotta reflect light at."
-Arin Hanson
...Shut up if you're not even going to follow your own comments.
Oh wow, that discussion about "figure it out for yourself" is beyond ironic.
"I do not think any lesser of someone if they can't figure something out."
Neither do I, sometimes something that should be completely obvious just doesn't click and that's fine. But if the reason they can't figure it out is because they're actively refusing to pay attention, and if they then blame the game for being poorly designed ... that's a different story.
Arin valuing the process of figuring things out is like a blind person having a favorite color.
From the creator of Zelda Sequilitis...
There is more editing done by the uploader of this video (adding text and comments to the screen) than I think Kevin has ever done.
Derek Mann that's because Kevin knows that no amount of editing will save arin.
Can someone please make a 3 hour megacut of this and the new Sequelitis?
Oh man, I remember the good old days when “the new Sequelitis” was a truthful phrase.
It's crazy how much Arin can sound like DSP at times.
**Every 3D Zelda game**
Danny: Wow, this is so clever and cool--
Arin: NO IT ISN'T, IT'S STUPID, I HATE IT, AND I WANT TO BE DONE WITH IT.
Danny: Oh, this story is-
Arin: BLAHLBLAH BLAH SKIPPING EVERYTHING
Danny: This side story is neat-
Arin: BORING. WHO CARES. MOVING ON!
Also Arin: UGH WHY ARE THESE GAMES SO HARD, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO, THIS GAME IS SO TEDIOUS AND BORING. I HATE IT. ARGH!
Remember back when a lot of people said Egoraptor was the superior Grump and JonTron was shit?
I bet those people are regretting what they said now.
ThatOne Anon Jon is the best grump, but even dan is better at the show than arin. It saddens me
ThatOne Anon I still like Danny a bit more than I liked Jon. But I feel like Arin got even worse.
wow, you are all 1 big angry circle jerk over 1 bad playthrough arin did like 2 years ago aren't you?
+rico “the man” anderson Can you name a good playthrough they did? One that isn't from a game thats older than the N64? I honestly wanna know, like this isn't an insult or anything. I'm just struggling to find any appeal to these guys that isn't Mega man or something.
HumanipodV6
Well in my opinion:
Sonic 06' (well as good as they could be with a broken game)
Super mario galaxy.
Pokemon fire red (unfortunately status remains incomplete but they are literally like 5 episodes away from finishing.)
Shadow of the colossus (tho I will admit they did have a few episodes were Danny didnt make alot of progress).
Punch Out wii (had maybe 1 or 2 episodes where they didnt advance but they beat it pretty fast).
They have others but I cant remember them right now, and to keep it fair I didnt mention stuff from there two side-shows "grumpcade" and "steam train".
So why does the Game Grumps get a pass when they do the same things Phil does in his playthroughs?
BECAUSE SCREAMING IS FUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Omnia Vanitas I know right? Probably because they're popular & maybe cuz of Jon Tron (god they are annoying and ain't even that funny)
Well long story short fame. People openly lose their shit on Phil for his incompetence because he doesn't have history or fame (for all I know) for doing anything, whereas Arin was an icon on Newgrounds, and continued to be one on RUclips.
This is one of the biggest things I hate on RUclips, just because someone has a bit of fame or history, we can't judge him/her on the same scale as everyone else. You are immune to criticism and no matter what you do it's completely justified (the very rare exception being Naughty Bear).
Berry Bruiser I agree to this 100%!! God I hate this site sometimes lol
Because the Game Grumps have senses of humor that aren't equivalent to the first shit I ever took.
I'm not defending them, since they still suck ass, but Phil's worse.
What the fuck is with Erin's absolute fascination with the hookshot and leaf.
Like, the man outright FORGETS the bow and arrow and boomerang exist because one of those two or three things HAS to be the solution.
Hell throwing jars comes to mind before anything else to him.
He gives away his thought process during Majora's Mask. It's because he wants to play the game "his way." He's in the phase where he thinks he should be able to play a game in whatever fashion he wants, not realizing that you have to *master* the basics and the game before you can fuck around with it and come up with something new.
He just sees all the silly things people do in games and speedruns and wants to emulate that, or come up with his own shit when he hasn't even mastered the game itself. He doesn't realize the hours of practice these people put into the game, and just assumes it's easy to do. On top of that he assumes that anything can be killed by anything for some stupid reason.
Complains about games hand-holding you, uses a walkthrough for Wind Waker which is the easiest zelda game ever made.
I always thought spirit tracks and phantom hourglass were the easiest.
I started uploading this on monday night
how was I supposed to know they were gonna play shadow the hedgehog?
Someone's gotta do a "This Is How You Don't" on that.
HIP CRIME
The entire game is a "This Is How You Don't"
Can you please do This is How you don't play Fire Red" for the GameGrumps, please. Of course when its finish. It's a complete trainwreck of unimagined proportion.
Veranio Yeah that playthrough was a disaster.
Veranio Fucking THIS. Those videos made me hate arin so much, every time he used that fucking angry/determined/idon'tevenknowhowtodescribeit voice in a fucking battle I wanted to turn my computer off.
"You truly do not care."
>Goes on a two episode rant about "hate mail"
It was amazing how two people could spend over an hour searching for bombs to open a cave on Outset Island, being constantly reminded of their task, with a walkthrough in their lap; to still be standing outside the cave entrance with the bombs going "alright, how do we get in?"
I would hate playing video games with Arin, I'm a patient person, but Arin's lack of understanding and incapability to learn simplistic game mechanics would just suck out all the fun of exploring a game and learning about it. Also, Arin's hatred of the cinematic experiences of Zelda just baffles me for someone who enjoys exploration and the point of the previous Zelda games.
Skyward Sword be like: Wassup now bruh, you need some instructions?
Shalnark Kun players like Grumps and DSP are the reason Skyward Sword is the way it is
holy shit you made me laugh
And then they played Skyward Sword and needed more instruction.
So... These are the "hilarious" Game Grumps I've heard so much about.
I'm also glad to see that these TIHYDP videos aren't just limited to DSP.
Usually it does because of his incompetence, but I guess if a LP beyond Phil's that is shitty enough, may there be a TIHYDP video of it.
tbh, this playthrough wasent even bad. whoever uploaded was kinda bein a D-bag over some fuck ups arin and danny did on a chill playthrough. (then again 90% of the grumps fanbase are kinda assholes because they mistake "playthrough" for "walkthrough" then get pissy the minute one mistake is made.) but its not a big deal to me, I'll support all the grumps, they are hilarious and cool people.
"You have to hold the stop button ... AND hold UP."
Oh Arin, I see why you were having so much trouble with this. God forbid the game makes you press two buttons at once to perform an action. Clearly that's something that nobody would think to try.
The people who make these videos are real saints
So this isn't limited to just DSP huh? GameGrumps too.
never should have been
Yeah it should’ve lol
@@demsterclippy4252 salty boi
This video made their playthrough bearable because it points out their shortcomings.
Its like watching 6 year old me play the first time, except little kid me actually knew how to read and i beat it quicker than these guys ever could.
Arin: Zelda games hold your hand too much!
Also Arin: How do I do the jump?
How do I know to attack a boss with an item I have just recently found, despite that being a game design formula that I've acknowledged in the past.
How do I not die from these enemy attacks?
My god, Arins views on game design just infuriate me. Especially that "Dont give any hints" bullshit.
But this was all covered in the video so I wont go into it.
I still love Game Grumps, but my god.
"This is how you DON'T play Super Mario 64: Game Grumps Edition"
plz
Please
Search for it
The only difference between Arin and DSP's playthroughs of this game is that DSP never died in it.
If he loves finding stuff out then mabye he could find the drop button in the top right
Holy crap, they're annoying. I'm sorry to anyone who likes Game Grumps, but *wow*...
Honestly its mostly just Arin. Like Dan can make stupid jokes but he knows when to stop. Arin however keeps the joke going longer than needed
I was only subscribed for steam train or videos that didn't have Arin....then I realized how unfunny and annoying he was and left.
So... are you willing to make an OOT video if that playthrough also sucks? And let's face it, it probably will.
+Alan Smithee Well.... It's not looking to good on the 'well-played' front, but maybe we'll get a video out of it!
"Somewhere out there Darksydephil is shaking his head."
it did
it really did
aside from the intrepid
2:22 It's pretentious shit like this that makes me wonder if ANYONE ever considers that they put this stuff in for your first Zelda game. Hell, just your first video game, period.
"Yeah, I already know all of this. I've played all the Zelda games."
Firstly Arin, you may have, but you may need to read everything again. Secondly, you may have, but not everyone will have.
Late comment but I've realized the greatest art/movies/books/videogames assumes you know nothing about it in the first place. Which is how they become great studies on what to do. There's a nuance to teaching/talking to the masses that are mixed with both the highly intelligent and the completely unaware at the same time.
Convenient how Arin says he only likes Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds, which he made his cohosts play. He could be incompetent on all Zeldas for all we know
And now Link's Awakening
@@AkameGaKillfan777 ah really? i stopped watching over a year ago *facepalm*
@@kendeecorn Well it was Dan that actually played it, and he beat it.
At least SOMEONE on the channel cares about finishing games.
When I was 7-8, the hardest part of Wind Waker for me was the Forsaken Fortress
I was shit-pants terrified of that place when I first arrived (I was but a mere fuccboi back then)
The rest of the game was damn easy for me, a child
Why? Because I paid attention to dialogue, put point A to point B to figure out puzzles, and was cautious in battle
Oh, Jabun is at the island of my birth? Hmm... that would be Outset, I'd better go quickly
Oh, the statues can weigh down this platform? Better think... Link = 1 statue, Goddess Statue = 1 statue... therefore I need 3 statues to weigh this down so I can cross
Oh, Darknuts coming to fuck my shit up? Better whip out my sword, stay targeted, and wait for the parry
Seriously, if an 8 year old child can do it without a guide, so can an adult
I cringed over how stupid they were in situations where the course of action needed was PAINFULLY obvious
"WHY CAN'T I ATTACK, I WAS TARGETING" "WHY CAN'T I MAKE THIS JUMP" "WHY DID I FALL"
Arin's slowly becoming DSP, it's hardly laughable
Arin says that looking around a room to find a crystal you have to wack or an eye that you have to shoot isn't a puzzle because it isn't hard. Then he spends about ten minutes in a room where that was pretty much the puzzle.
He has also said that waiting for an enemy isn't difficult "It's difficult to mess up" while showing footage of the clam enemy and to quote the Ocarina playthrough "FUCKING CLAM!"
Lu that too
It's taking a lot to process that this video is almost a decade old
that part with the guy playing dark souls really pisses me off
>no dodge rolling out of the way of an enemy attack,
>doesn't know how to preform kicks and jump attacks
>blames the game
Thaaaaat is DarkSydePhil, and that sort of thing is what he's known for.
The game zooms in on Valoo’s Tail before you even start the fight
This is like watching 2 stoners who have never played video games or read a book in their lives, try to play a video game and follow basic instructions.
One of them literally is
The fact that it takes Lucahjin, someone more casual with games, less than half as much time to beat any game COMEPLETELY BLIND compared to Arin, a self proclaimed critic of video games, speaks so much about Arin. Also what the fuck is half of these conversations?
When I watched Arin bumble around the boss battle with Gohma, I became convinced that Arin doesn't actually know how to video game.
I just realized they're not using the gamepad as the controller. You know... the ideal and 100% better way to play the game.
Fast-forward to now, he's not doing it for Twilight Princess HD either. And of course, he's complaining about having to talk to Midna to switch between Human and Wolf form.
42:47 It's just like when DSP wouldn't stop using the whip in Bayonetta.
Given what we know about Dan's long time habit of pumping and dumping, the conversation at 40:00 is kinda hilarious. XD
Not gonna lie, it's thanks to Arin that I've ever seen what happens when the timer runs out on Fire Island. I've never seen that cutscene before, and I've played this game so many times!
Edit: And that's the first time seeing the cutscene for failing at Ice Island! I never knew those cutscenes even existed! I figured it would just fade to black like when falling down a bottomless pit and reset the timer.
Game Grumps really has gone downhill after Jon left.
I thought it went downhill way before Jon left.
gameplay-wise, yes. Comedy, a little better actually
Nah, mostly just Arin.
I love Danny, he's a cool guy.
But he doesn't seem to know as much about modern games as Jon does since he skipped the N64 era.
So unfortunately whenever Arin says something unfathomably retarded/hypocritical, Danny just eats it up without question whereas Jon would at least call him out on it.
*****
You know what, you've got a point.
Game Grumps was horrible since day 1 with mega man and stuff.
"A Piece of Heart? But I want the Swift Sail, I'm not going to try to win this!"
...Unless you're doing a three-heart run, which they clearly aren't doing here, why in the world would you EVER pass up the opportunity to extend your heart meter?!
EDIT: WAIT. WAIT. *WAIT.*
Are you fucking saying that he forgot how to beat a boss that he JUST GOT DONE BEATING IN THE FORM OF JALHALLA?!
Okay, it's one thing to not pay attention to something right in front of you like that fucking button that turns the downward wind gusts off at the beginning of the Wind Temple, but to forget something that you already did recently AND be dumber than a god damn newborn in figuring out how to beat the boss that you JUST GOT DONE BEATING?! HOLY FUCK, Arin, I never realized just HOW MUCH YOU COULDN'T CARE LESS ABOUT ADVENTURE GAMES LIKE ZELDA.
I'm sorry for all the caps lock, but shit like this really makes my blood boil, especially since I'm a die-hard Zelda fan myself. This seriously is DSP levels of fucking inept, I swear to God.
They are actually worse than DSP.
I think Arin is terrible, but he isn't that bad.
+Dank Meme Time Machine
>terrible
>isn't that bad
Pick one already.
Arin most certainly is, but his commonality with DSP isn't in how bad he is, but his inability to learn how to play and how he blames other things rather than acknowledge his ineptitude.
We really need more game grump ones, so many awful playthroughs on par with dipshitphil.
It's amazing to me that when this game came out I was 10 years old and beat it easily but two grown men can't do the most basic shit in this game.
It's because they're too arrogant, lazy, and/or stupid to read.
It's because Arin doesn't like being told what to do so he skips parts telling him what to do, but when he gets to a part where he has to figure out what to do, he blames the game for a lack of direction.
"PUT THE THING DOWN!"
*top right corner says "Drop"*
"MOVE, BOAT!"
*top right corner says "Cruise"*
"STOP SWINGING!"
*top right corner says "Stop"*
God, the Dragon Roost Island part, it was so shit, I can't believe I actually hanged in there and watched everything to the end
This kind of shit is why I unsubbed from them years ago. Jon could navigate 3d space while Danny can't and doesn't even try. And while Arin can, he has no patience which impedes his progress more than if he just paid a sliver of attention. And the "I'm an idiot but this is bs" excuse consistently used in this and Majora is the most aggravating thing.
Jon and Arin worked because they both played games, had differing opinions, and would express that. Imagine if Jon were there in place of Danny: less Yes man, more games played between them, less excuse making, more patience from Arin since he doesn't have to play every 3d game.
7:30 No, those graphics aren't improved. Characters models aren't different, the blur goes against the idea behind the cell-shading, and the original game will actually look less dated in a couple of years than this version.
12:05 Ironically, Arin is probably someone like that.
24:48 That's because in earlier Zelda games, it was a Hookshot, not a Grapling Hook.
Honestly this version still looks good
No idea why people always have to be like “ uh askually this remaster will look worse than the OG eventually” when its already been years and it still looks good
It's almost impressive how incapable Arin is of thinking he might ever be doing things wrong. Just keep doing the same thing over and over, surely it'll work *this* time
HE JUST SAID THAT THE ELIXIR SOUP IS USELESS
I DON'T EVEN LIKE ZELDA AND I KNOW THAT'S GOOD SHIT
2 hours into this video, still has not gotten one island chart.
I think the crowning stupidity moment in WW for them was thinking the Firefly was a fucking fairy.
Also something thats infuriating is that he always complains when he dies. But wherever theres an opportunity to get a Piece of Heart he doesnt want it.
comment: "HE FORGOT THE ROPE MECHANICS"
Dude he never learned the rope mechanics. He skipped that tutorial.
For those dissing the guy who made this this ..Arin opened himself up when he stuck out his opinion,if he had good opinions and wasn't biased and contradicting in his statements than yeah he wouldn't deserve to get ripped on
So people watch this shit unironically and enjoy it?
Is gamegrumps just a friend simulator or something ?
Bingo. There's a reason why the majority of their fans are super-obsessed weirdos, and it aint because they're comedy legends or musical prodigies. These guys are proxy friends for hopeless losers the world over.
This isn't even close to them at their worst. It doesn't include all the terrible things they've done outside of Let's Plays that other compilations like this show.
But yes, the comments on their videos are infuriating.
this is why i stopped watching gamegrumps and started watching tbfp, they have the same style, in that thry have two commentators talking about random stuff over the video, but they dont do the shit that arin does, and they pay attention to what the fuck is going on in the game
Arin Hanson: tries every solution, except the one that works
The bigger sin in this video isn't even how bad he plays it's how unfunny they were