The short cocktail version of the Zippyy is the LS-32 clone. The longer version of the Zippyy is equivalent in length to an LS-32 joystick with a shaft extender installed.
The Zippyy base is definitely an LS-32 clone. I've fit LS-32 substrates (the original Panasonic microswitches soldered onto a PCB board) onto the Zippyy stack and sealed them with an LS-32 base cover. You can't do that with hardware unless it's an exact clone! You can fit the post-2017 LS-32 substrates onto the Zippyy, too, but you'd have to buy the new LS-32 base plate because the old pre-2017 (LS-32) base plate won't align properly with the new substrate. The main difference between the Zippyy base plate and the LS-32 base plate (on the LS-32-01 5-prong adapter model) are these semi-circular metal tabs on the outside of the baseplate. This is not an issue for 0.175 fastener-style microswitches but an unmodded Zippyy baseplate won't fit properly over the soldered microswitch substrate. If you shave those semicircular tabs off and make the sides flat, the Zippyy baseplate will probably fit over the pre-2017 LS-32 substrate otherwise it's just better to swap baseplates with a broken LS-32. Again, the Zippyy baseplate would have to be changed for the post-2017 LS-32 baseplate if you choose to use the new LS-32 substrate with the Omron microswitches. The screws between the near-identical designs have different pitch so they're not cross-compatible; you have to use what comes with the Zippyy base to piece the base together AND screw on the mounting plates. The rectangular/flat gate on the Zippyy is identical to the LS-32's SE/RE Flat Mounting Plate. Same dimensions, same screw holes and mounting positions. Everything else that screws onto the LS-32 (restrictor gates, actuator, spring holder, probably the LS-32 pivot, and defintely the Mounting Plates) goes on the Zippyy perfectly. If you swap out all the shaft parts and the micros with the Seimitsu parts, the Zippyy will basically be an LS-32. Many JLF clones are the same with respect to the JLF including the Hori Hayabusa which is based around the JLF shaft (the Hayabusa pivot is better, IMHO) but plugs into an utterly different base. What's inferior on the Zippyy are the microswitches -- the stock Zippyy switches are crap and fail quickly -- and the spring. I have 2 Zippyy's I can't use now because the micros failed. I really don't want to buy more micros from the same manufacturer that fit defective parts on what I bought in the first place! You have to switch out the spring holder for the LS-32 spring holder if you want to use an LS-32 spring with the Zippyy shaft; the LS-32 spring does not fit on the Zippyy spring holder. You really can't use the Zippyy as-is with the LS-32 micros because the Zippyy actuator is thicker and the Zippyy spring has a different tension; it feels "off" is the best description. I don't like it! Most of the Zippyy stock parts have to be replaced with Seimitsu parts to make the Zippyy feel like an LS-32. Maybe you CAN keep the Zippyy pivot and it'd be fine... They sell EVERYTHING in the United States except the stupid LS-32 actuator!!! You either have to cannibalize an existing LS-32 or buy that part from Japan or Germany (the only place outside of Japan I've seen carry LS-32 actuators is in Germany). Guess you could ask Focus Attack if they can get the part; they're the best place to shop to replace broken joystick parts right now in the States. Part of why an LS-40 feels different than an LS-32 is that the actuator is different, it has a smaller activation zone, and the spring is compressed tighter than the LS-32. Stock LS-40 has a tighter tension than the stock LS-32. Other than the spring and the microswitches, there's very little on the LS-40 that's actually identical to the LS-32! I think one area where the LS-40 is IS better than the LS-32 is the pivot; LS-40 pivot is utterly different but doesn't have the issues of feeling like it gets stuck with "gunk" (dirty grease; likely more a tension issue with the spring tension on the LS-32 if you mod that like I do) or pops the pivot. I've never had a pivot pop on the LS-40. Pivot pops still happen for me on the LS-32 once in a blue moon but it's not often.
I want to build a replica tapper arcade cab. Could i use these sticks with the 2-way restrictor plate for the beer tap controls? (up and down instead of left and right)
Zippyy joysticks are crap because the microswitches are shabby! The microswitches will fail well within a year. I had one Zippyy's microswitches go bad after a few weeks! You want to buy a pro-level joystick/premium arcade parts with better Panasonic or Omron microswitches. The OFFICIAL LS-32-01 joystick from Seimitsu is FAR better than this cheap, knock-off clone with crappy microswitches. The microswitches in an LS-32 might last up to 20 years with moderate use! You can sneeze on the microswitches of a Zippyy lever and they'll break next week!
Use an E-clip to replace the C-clip. They use C-clips to secure the shafts on LS-32 joystick levers which the Zippyy joystick is a clone of. You can buy 3/8 or 5/16 inch E-clips at your local hardware store, Lowes, or Home Depot. This does the trick of keeping the lever assembly together AND has the advantage of being reusable. I've removed E-clips from LS-32 and Zippyy joystick stacks 5-8 times and I've never had to replace the E-clips (I use 3/8" E-clips but the 5/16" size will work, too). I had 2 instances where I DID have to replace an E-clip but that was because I bent one of out shape (only happened once in 11 years!) and another E-clip popped off because of spring compression force. I eventually found that E-clip! Even if you DO manage to get the C-clip back on, a few removals from the joystick shaft ruins the metal of the C-clip. it just doesn't keep after 2 removals max even with the right tool to replace it on the lever shaft.
Anyway i will answer for you. The zippy is a clone of the high end sanwa's and Seimitsu sticks. As far as i know the others mentioned dont have the levers but don't quote me, just do a search, they are a far superior stick than the zipps. Just do a search my friend
@@menacegtr The Zippy feels nothing like sanwa. Esp the longshaft. Have you ever used one? Because I have both a sanwa stick and a zippy and they absalutely nothing alike, both in feel, appearence and build.
@@menacegtr The Zippyy cocktail joystick (short shaft) base is a clone of the Seimitsu LS-32. You can interchange the shaft parts between the two joystick and they fit exactly. The only differences fitwise are that the Zippyy screws have different pitches and fit the Zippyy base specifically AND the Zippyy metal shaft is a fraction of a millimeter shorter than the LS-32 shaft! Also, the base plastic of the Zippyy bootleg joystick is stamped in silver ink lettering with the "ZIPPYY" name. You can upgrade a Zippyy to LS-32 level quality by substituting all the shaft parts below the pivot with Seimitsu shaft parts (spring, spring holder, actuator) AND replacing the Zippyy microswitches with Panasonic or Omron substrates (or loose microswitches of those 2 brands) meant for the LS-32. With the baseplate screwed on, an upgraded Zippyy will be equivalent to an LS-32 then. The question is -- WHY BOTHER for most people?!? it's more expensive to buy all those LS-32 parts and upgrade the Zippyy than it is to buy an LS-32 in the first place!!!! Goes without saying, a stock Zippyy joystick lever is a POS. It's only worth anything AFTER it's been upgraded. JLF clones are ALSO POS because the microswitches break very easily on those like they do for the Zippyy! Spend the extra $10-$15 and get a joystick with microswitches that will last a decade or more!
The Zippyy is an LS-32 clone. It is NOT a Sanwa JLF or LS-40 clone. The Zippyy body and shaft are copies of the LS-32. What is different are the pivot, spring holder, the spring, and the actuator. You can slip on LS-32 shaft parts (the pivot, spring holder, spring, and actuator) and they fit perfectly. You can fit the same microswitches the LS-32 uses onto the Zippyy base. You have to reuse the Zippyy screws with the Zippyy base because the plastic is engineered to accept screws that are different than what the LS-32 uses. The mounting plates are interchangeable between the LS-32 and Zippyy. What IS different are the microswitches (different spec than the Omron/Panasonic microswitches the LS-32 uses), actuator, spring holder, and spring. Because of the different spring and actuator, the Zippyy feels different even if you install LS-32 microswitches on the Zippyy base. At minimum, you'd have to replace the spring holder, spring, and actuator to LS-32 components to get the same feel as the LS-32. Because of the cost of replacing those parts, it's actually cheaper to buy an LS-32 to begin with than to upgrade a Zippyy into an LS-32! I know all these things because I've bought examples of both the LS-32 and Zippyy. The LS-32 is the better joystick lever to buy because of the microswitches and actuator. The stock Zippyy is a fairly decent performing joystick but the cheaper-quality microswitches wear out much quicker on the Zippyy. It's expensive to upgrade the Zippyy.
Oh, I recently discovered the metal shafts are NOT identical to the LS-32. The Zippyy stock shaft is a fraction of a millimeter SHORTER than the LS-32 shaft! The shafts are swappable between the LS-32 and Zippyy bases. In fact, I swapped an LS-32 shaft with an upgraded Zippyy base's shaft because I didn't want to cut down the plastic shaft cover I installed on that upgraded Zippyy from an LS-32 it displaced! (All my LS-32s and Zippyys have plastic shaft covers that are modded Sanwa JLF shaft covers.) That's the only problem I've had with the Zippyy shaft otherwise. You can't tell the difference performance-wise between metal shafts that are less than 1mm difference in length! I have played with LS-32s that had extensions installed and I DIDN'T like that but those extensions add nearly 1/4" extra length to the shaft. It felt awkward! I've experimented with the Seimitsu LS-32 pivot in an upgraded Zippyy base and I honestly do NOT see a difference in handling from the Zippyy pivot. The Zippyy microswitches ARE shit but everything else (base, metal shaft, pivot) I saved has worked out fine. Nothing else is falling apart like the microswitches did. Even if you buy a Zippyy and HATE it, you might keep it just for parts to support any LS-32s you do buy later or trade for.
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The short cocktail version of the Zippyy is the LS-32 clone.
The longer version of the Zippyy is equivalent in length to an LS-32 joystick with a shaft extender installed.
The Zippyy base is definitely an LS-32 clone. I've fit LS-32 substrates (the original Panasonic microswitches soldered onto a PCB board) onto the Zippyy stack and sealed them with an LS-32 base cover. You can't do that with hardware unless it's an exact clone! You can fit the post-2017 LS-32 substrates onto the Zippyy, too, but you'd have to buy the new LS-32 base plate because the old pre-2017 (LS-32) base plate won't align properly with the new substrate.
The main difference between the Zippyy base plate and the LS-32 base plate (on the LS-32-01 5-prong adapter model) are these semi-circular metal tabs on the outside of the baseplate. This is not an issue for 0.175 fastener-style microswitches but an unmodded Zippyy baseplate won't fit properly over the soldered microswitch substrate. If you shave those semicircular tabs off and make the sides flat, the Zippyy baseplate will probably fit over the pre-2017 LS-32 substrate otherwise it's just better to swap baseplates with a broken LS-32. Again, the Zippyy baseplate would have to be changed for the post-2017 LS-32 baseplate if you choose to use the new LS-32 substrate with the Omron microswitches.
The screws between the near-identical designs have different pitch so they're not cross-compatible; you have to use what comes with the Zippyy base to piece the base together AND screw on the mounting plates. The rectangular/flat gate on the Zippyy is identical to the LS-32's SE/RE Flat Mounting Plate. Same dimensions, same screw holes and mounting positions. Everything else that screws onto the LS-32 (restrictor gates, actuator, spring holder, probably the LS-32 pivot, and defintely the Mounting Plates) goes on the Zippyy perfectly. If you swap out all the shaft parts and the micros with the Seimitsu parts, the Zippyy will basically be an LS-32.
Many JLF clones are the same with respect to the JLF including the Hori Hayabusa which is based around the JLF shaft (the Hayabusa pivot is better, IMHO) but plugs into an utterly different base.
What's inferior on the Zippyy are the microswitches -- the stock Zippyy switches are crap and fail quickly -- and the spring. I have 2 Zippyy's I can't use now because the micros failed. I really don't want to buy more micros from the same manufacturer that fit defective parts on what I bought in the first place! You have to switch out the spring holder for the LS-32 spring holder if you want to use an LS-32 spring with the Zippyy shaft; the LS-32 spring does not fit on the Zippyy spring holder. You really can't use the Zippyy as-is with the LS-32 micros because the Zippyy actuator is thicker and the Zippyy spring has a different tension; it feels "off" is the best description. I don't like it! Most of the Zippyy stock parts have to be replaced with Seimitsu parts to make the Zippyy feel like an LS-32. Maybe you CAN keep the Zippyy pivot and it'd be fine...
They sell EVERYTHING in the United States except the stupid LS-32 actuator!!! You either have to cannibalize an existing LS-32 or buy that part from Japan or Germany (the only place outside of Japan I've seen carry LS-32 actuators is in Germany). Guess you could ask Focus Attack if they can get the part; they're the best place to shop to replace broken joystick parts right now in the States.
Part of why an LS-40 feels different than an LS-32 is that the actuator is different, it has a smaller activation zone, and the spring is compressed tighter than the LS-32. Stock LS-40 has a tighter tension than the stock LS-32. Other than the spring and the microswitches, there's very little on the LS-40 that's actually identical to the LS-32! I think one area where the LS-40 is IS better than the LS-32 is the pivot; LS-40 pivot is utterly different but doesn't have the issues of feeling like it gets stuck with "gunk" (dirty grease; likely more a tension issue with the spring tension on the LS-32 if you mod that like I do) or pops the pivot. I've never had a pivot pop on the LS-40. Pivot pops still happen for me on the LS-32 once in a blue moon but it's not often.
I want to build a replica tapper arcade cab. Could i use these sticks with the 2-way restrictor plate for the beer tap controls? (up and down instead of left and right)
This is more a video on how it is assembled than a review.
Zippyy joysticks are crap because the microswitches are shabby!
The microswitches will fail well within a year.
I had one Zippyy's microswitches go bad after a few weeks!
You want to buy a pro-level joystick/premium arcade parts with better Panasonic or Omron microswitches.
The OFFICIAL LS-32-01 joystick from Seimitsu is FAR better than this cheap, knock-off clone with crappy microswitches.
The microswitches in an LS-32 might last up to 20 years with moderate use! You can sneeze on the microswitches of a Zippyy lever and they'll break next week!
A 'C' Clip came off the end of the shaft of a Zippy, it's impossible to get back on. Any suggestions?
Do it with someone who knows blacksmithing and metals, replace the part and shipping would be the same as buying a new lever
Use an E-clip to replace the C-clip.
They use C-clips to secure the shafts on LS-32 joystick levers which the Zippyy joystick is a clone of.
You can buy 3/8 or 5/16 inch E-clips at your local hardware store, Lowes, or Home Depot. This does the trick of keeping the lever assembly together AND has the advantage of being reusable. I've removed E-clips from LS-32 and Zippyy joystick stacks 5-8 times and I've never had to replace the E-clips (I use 3/8" E-clips but the 5/16" size will work, too). I had 2 instances where I DID have to replace an E-clip but that was because I bent one of out shape (only happened once in 11 years!) and another E-clip popped off because of spring compression force. I eventually found that E-clip!
Even if you DO manage to get the C-clip back on, a few removals from the joystick shaft ruins the metal of the C-clip. it just doesn't keep after 2 removals max even with the right tool to replace it on the lever shaft.
Are there any Zippyy sticks that use non-levered switches, like the ones used in Competition or Eurojoy sticks?
He is probably still finding out for you, shouldn't be too long now
Anyway i will answer for you. The zippy is a clone of the high end sanwa's and Seimitsu sticks. As far as i know the others mentioned dont have the levers but don't quote me, just do a search, they are a far superior stick than the zipps. Just do a search my friend
@@menacegtr The Zippy feels nothing like sanwa. Esp the longshaft.
Have you ever used one? Because I have both a sanwa stick and a zippy and they absalutely nothing alike, both in feel, appearence and build.
@@menacegtr The Zippyy cocktail joystick (short shaft) base is a clone of the Seimitsu LS-32.
You can interchange the shaft parts between the two joystick and they fit exactly. The only differences fitwise are that the Zippyy screws have different pitches and fit the Zippyy base specifically AND the Zippyy metal shaft is a fraction of a millimeter shorter than the LS-32 shaft! Also, the base plastic of the Zippyy bootleg joystick is stamped in silver ink lettering with the "ZIPPYY" name.
You can upgrade a Zippyy to LS-32 level quality by substituting all the shaft parts below the pivot with Seimitsu shaft parts (spring, spring holder, actuator) AND replacing the Zippyy microswitches with Panasonic or Omron substrates (or loose microswitches of those 2 brands) meant for the LS-32. With the baseplate screwed on, an upgraded Zippyy will be equivalent to an LS-32 then.
The question is -- WHY BOTHER for most people?!? it's more expensive to buy all those LS-32 parts and upgrade the Zippyy than it is to buy an LS-32 in the first place!!!!
Goes without saying, a stock Zippyy joystick lever is a POS. It's only worth anything AFTER it's been upgraded.
JLF clones are ALSO POS because the microswitches break very easily on those like they do for the Zippyy!
Spend the extra $10-$15 and get a joystick with microswitches that will last a decade or more!
Thank you
is this somewhat close to the seimitsu sticks??
The Zippyy is an LS-32 clone. It is NOT a Sanwa JLF or LS-40 clone.
The Zippyy body and shaft are copies of the LS-32. What is different are the pivot, spring holder, the spring, and the actuator. You can slip on LS-32 shaft parts (the pivot, spring holder, spring, and actuator) and they fit perfectly.
You can fit the same microswitches the LS-32 uses onto the Zippyy base. You have to reuse the Zippyy screws with the Zippyy base because the plastic is engineered to accept screws that are different than what the LS-32 uses. The mounting plates are interchangeable between the LS-32 and Zippyy.
What IS different are the microswitches (different spec than the Omron/Panasonic microswitches the LS-32 uses), actuator, spring holder, and spring. Because of the different spring and actuator, the Zippyy feels different even if you install LS-32 microswitches on the Zippyy base. At minimum, you'd have to replace the spring holder, spring, and actuator to LS-32 components to get the same feel as the LS-32. Because of the cost of replacing those parts, it's actually cheaper to buy an LS-32 to begin with than to upgrade a Zippyy into an LS-32!
I know all these things because I've bought examples of both the LS-32 and Zippyy. The LS-32 is the better joystick lever to buy because of the microswitches and actuator. The stock Zippyy is a fairly decent performing joystick but the cheaper-quality microswitches wear out much quicker on the Zippyy. It's expensive to upgrade the Zippyy.
Oh, I recently discovered the metal shafts are NOT identical to the LS-32.
The Zippyy stock shaft is a fraction of a millimeter SHORTER than the LS-32 shaft!
The shafts are swappable between the LS-32 and Zippyy bases.
In fact, I swapped an LS-32 shaft with an upgraded Zippyy base's shaft because I didn't want to cut down the plastic shaft cover I installed on that upgraded Zippyy from an LS-32 it displaced! (All my LS-32s and Zippyys have plastic shaft covers that are modded Sanwa JLF shaft covers.)
That's the only problem I've had with the Zippyy shaft otherwise.
You can't tell the difference performance-wise between metal shafts that are less than 1mm difference in length! I have played with LS-32s that had extensions installed and I DIDN'T like that but those extensions add nearly 1/4" extra length to the shaft. It felt awkward!
I've experimented with the Seimitsu LS-32 pivot in an upgraded Zippyy base and I honestly do NOT see a difference in handling from the Zippyy pivot.
The Zippyy microswitches ARE shit but everything else (base, metal shaft, pivot) I saved has worked out fine. Nothing else is falling apart like the microswitches did.
Even if you buy a Zippyy and HATE it, you might keep it just for parts to support any LS-32s you do buy later or trade for.