Spin-Clean Made My Records Sound WORSE?
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2023
- Don't make the same mistake I made!
A PSA about an issue you may run into if you don't properly clean your Spin Clean record brushes.
In this video, I give some tips for how Spin-Clean users can get the best sound from their vinyl for years to come! 
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Title of this video needs revising, as it gives the impression that spin clean should be avoided, and is damaging ....
Did the title make you click on the video? I will not subscribe to channels if they do clickbait.
It’s a clickbait title. It’s trying to give that impression so you open the video.
@@hkraytaiSure, but many people won’t take the time to watch it, so it could be dissuading more than it’s helping. It’s a fair point.
Just discovered you thanks to the holy algorithms. Subbed and like! 👍✔️
Absolutely love my SpinClean ss well. I made a tongue in check about transforming mine into a ultrasonic some time ago and it became my most viewed vid...by a mile! Lol! You make a great point about the brushes. They are the primary component and contact for the cleaning. Good stuff. Cheers! 🤘🎶🤘
I know that video of yours, it was hilarious! Thanks for the sub!
I've owned a SpinClean for several years now, and fortunately I haven't had that problem pop up. When I'm done cleaning records (I let them pile up like you do until I have enough for a "cleaning session"), I run the brushes under the tap and squeeze the water out of them, each one two or three times to really flush out any residue, then I leave them sitting out to air-dry for a day or two. I'm on the second pair of brushes (bought the "deluxe" kit) and will probably need to get new brushes soon, but I've definitely gotten my mileage out of them. Great video - you've earned a subscribe from me! :)
Thanks!!!
See, I needed you to remind me to get my Spin Clean “Clean”, thanks for the video man ✌🏼🎶
Hi and thanks for your review.
I've used Spin Clean for at least 7 years and while it is not perfect it is much better than simply cleaning with a surface cleaning brush plus a bottle of fluid that you pet on the brush.
One aspect I found out was that for records that have a build up of dust particles deeply embedded in the record grooves is to play the Spin clean cleaned records while still marginally moist from the Spin Clean rotation. This is after they have been wiped down with the Spin Clean cloth wipers and placed in a drying rack. Make sure there are no droplets of water still on the surface and it could be about 15-30 minutes on the drying rack. This playing a not-completely dry record can bring up lots of tiny (almost microscopic) white spots on the record surface (make sure you examine under strong lighting). Next give the record another run through on the Spin Clean and repeat playing before record is completely dry. By this repeat wash and play process, I have been able to enjoy playing records that were unpleasant to listen to previously.
I have been using the Spin Clean for over 10 years with fantastic results. I usually pre-treat and go five turns in each direction, and then clean in smaller batches (since one "capful" of their fluid is good for 50 records at three spins each way, not five). However, I recently had an issue after buying new brushes. After cleaning records with my new brushes, I found my stylus kept getting all clogged up like mid-side during playback! Granted, I use a MicroLine so it digs up everything at the bottom, but this was never an issue before. At first I was worried the stylus was carving the records, but after playing a (cheap but) reasonably clean record I had definitely not cleaned with the new brushes, there was nothing on the stylus. It was only the records I had just cleaned with the new brushes doing this. (And no, I never play styrene records with my MicroLine.) I had to end up putting the old brushes (which I kept) back in and giving each record 10 turns in each direction, and this seemed to clear them up. It definitely appears that the new brushes had some factory grime on them. I will clean the new ones and see if they can be usable. Unfortunately I waited too long after receiving them to actually use them, so I can't try to return them. The moral of the story, make sure your new Spin Clean brushes are not worse than your old ones!
For folks just viewing this. Everything he stated is now in the user manual.
Rinse brushes after use, wipe album dry, use distill water for best results, don't use soap, use a record cleaning washing solution. Thanks for sharing video.
not "now in the manual", it's been there for at least 10 years. Probably for ever
Who doesn't use soap ? Who buys 20$ record solution
I’ve used one of these for several years. I clean and rinse the brushes fairly often. The solution that is used with the spin clean is basically a flocculant that makes any dirt or dust settle to the bottom.
Interesting! I've noticed that the bottom of my Spin Clean never seems to get fully clean (and the grooves are impossible to reach with a brush) so makes total sense. Thanks for the info :)
I used a spin clean for a couple years. I just used a drop of dish detergent. It floated the gunk out of the grooves really well. A real bargain compared to a nitty gritty LP vac. I did the batch clean thing too.
Great advice to replace the brushes periodically. Even if they don't get gunked up, the fibers on the velvet wear down, and it can't clean into the grooves as well. I also got a HumminGuru ultrasonic cleaner, which got my albums sounding even better. I use the Spin-Clean for used records that have junk/finger prints, then follow that up with the ultrasonic cleaner. It makes a huge difference in sound quality.
I have an album with what appears to be a quarter size spot of oily residue on it. I cleaned it with my Spin Clean but it didn’t remove the film. Do you any suggestion for removing it safely? I don’t want to damage it so I have been reluctant to experiment cleaning it any further.
Thanks for the tip. I just ordered replacement brushes.
Great video on an interesting topic. Thanks!
I haven’t used Spin Clean but I have found that the Nosti anti stat works for me every time !
Thanks, what liquid cleaner do you use with it?
That was so helpful, thanks.
I use the _VinylBug_ vacuum record cleaner for my main cleaning, and the Spin Clean for a distilled water rinse _only_ . Then the record goes back to the VinylBug to be dried completely with the drying mesh, and this has proved to be a great system for me, even though it's time consuming.
Here's experience...
I use reverse-osmosis water in the Spinclean, and it "goes bad" (feels slimy) after 4-6 hours (avg 20-25, 5 spins each direction), regardless of how many (or how dirty the) records I clean.
I also use a 3D-printed wetvac attachment system called Squeakyclean to dry, and I rack them to air dry overnight.
Some records WILL need a second or third cleaning no matter what method you use, even ultrasonic.
It's also good to pre-clean extra-dirty records with your preferred water and a cotton pad just before Spincleaning them.
I got scared to death reading the title to this video.I just got the Spinclean last week and did 20 records.I was really impressed with the results.Good tip about keeping an eye on the brushes.
I apologize for the click bait title, but hope my tip helps you in the future. The Spin Clean is great and happy you have had a good experience so far!
I don’t think Spin Clean would like this title.
So what I do is use the Vinyl Styl cleaning machine. I like that it has a clamp that covers the label to spin the record instead of rollers and uses goat hair brushes. I use it with the Spin Clean solution though. I feel im getting the best out of both products that way.
How many times do you change the brushes
The noise you hear is static. I use two. Wet the record with 3 spins one way then the other. Place record on a towel and with a home made solution of 9/1 iso and distilled water with a drop of wshin liquid I cleanse it vigorously with a velvet brush. I then place in to the second spin clean and 5 slow rotations both way. Dry and spin. I've found at least 4 plays per side and some anti stat gunning really helps post clean.
The Spin Clean is my “go to” way to clean my records. I pre wash first then I put them through the Spin Clean . Depending on how dirty your records are it is recommended to use new water after 20-50 records
How do you prewash? Like wet bush? Ive kind of gotten lazy and just now only do Spin Clean but swap the water after 10-20 depending on how dirty the water is!
@@howtovinyl I make my own record washing fluid . Consisting of distilled water, the highest percentage of alcohol you can get in a store think I use 90% and a small amount of dishwasher rinse aid. I spray it on the record using a specific brush when dry it’ll scratch and ruin your records. But when wet it does an amazing job. Wipe dry then use the Spin Clean . Your Spin Clean fluid will last longer and you’ll be able to wash more records with it
@@fortherecord8241 I'm looking at buying a spinclean now and as I was watching video I figured that would make the most sense. With each record you clean, the water is dirtier. so why not get rid of all the surface particles with a standard cleaning method and reserver the spin clean for the deeper dirt.
Side note: My discwasher uses the same "brush" that was installed on it when I bought it in 1976. Still works great.
FWIW, I just use a flat paint pad to "deep clean" really dirty records. I rinse them at the kitchen sink, lay them on a towel, and squirt some Dawn on the paint pad and scrub 'em down good. The brush "rides" the grooves just like a stylus. I then rinse and air dry. I cannot say enough about the results. I've literally cleaned "mostly unplayed" records that were completely submerged in basement floods DECADES earlier, "glued in bricks" of records and their jackets and they sound brand new. Dead quiet. Seriously. FWIW, a few were so caked that I had to clean them twice. i.e. they still had some "brown coloring" from caked on dirt after the first scrubbing.
It’s doing good for me and if I get a really soiled record, stained and/or mildewed, I’ll first use a mix of distilled water and white vinegar.
I found that my Record Doc was, is cheaper over the long haul. Dont have to replace the brushs as often and the replacement pad are a lot less expensive for the Record Doc. And the the vacuum just dose better job.
I never had any issues with my spin clean. The only difference is I run my records over my disc doctor vacuum after the bath then a quick wipe with a cloth. Sometimes I'll use the solution and others just plain ol distilled water.
Haven’t used this Christmas present yet but it seems on a dry run records are squeezed so tight by brushes I can barely turn them. I’m hoping with liquid they actually can be turned.
Try putting about 30 - 50 thinner LPs through first. 120 gm vinyl will spin with ease. There are many albums from back in the day that were quite flimsy. Do about a cleaning session of 20 and you'll be amazed at how much debris accumulates at the bottom. I use a dual anti static cleaner from Canada. 1 qt 32 oz bottle for $ 35. The best smokin' deal on a cleaner anywhere, and it works like a charm.
I have the same device. Used it and haven't been able to detect any sonic improvement. Mind you, all my records are at least NM, so it might work when removing heavy soiling but not when you attempt to minimize certain crackles and pops on otherwise clean records.
Thanks for the tip. I have a similar device it’s the big fudge. It looks exactly the same just black. But I must say I have invested in an ultrasonic. I found a really good one for under $200 actually… $165, and I will never be without it. I use my big fudge for pre-washing and rinsing. I also let my records air dry, and I use a small fan. They do sound amazing when you clean them you can’t deny that, anyway that works for you. Thanks again.
Dude! What ultrasonic was that cheap and also good? I've seen a few cheaper ones but was afraid to pull the trigger on a purchase!
@@howtovinyl Hi. It’s the Vevor ultrasonic cleaner on Amazon. I got the non digital to save $, and I feel less chance for complications later on just a simpler device. It comes with the record attachment and everything check it out. I love it!
I'm going to check it out! Thanks for the tip :)
@@howtovinyl I’m sure you probably know, but you can find a couple of videos on RUclips that might help you make up your mind.
I bought replacement brushes (Spin-Clean brand) and they were so thick, I could not even fit the record between them. I've been forced to use one new and one old.
I just bought one and I have a similar problem. I can turn them but I’m almost flipping over the whole unit.
I love mine. Its great
After dry the disc, you need to pass it for the needle once (so needle get the dust). After thah, you clean the needle, and just then the cleaning is complete....
I mean to play the record once (faster in speed if you want, is not necesary to hear it). After that you'll get a clean record
Agreed! Lots of people don't seem to want to hear that (they say it damages the needle - which is not true) but its how I expect to get any last bits of residue off
I only clean 10 - 15 records at a time, I find the water gets pretty dirty looking if I do more. What’s the point trying to wash records in dirty water. I change my brushes every 200 - 300 records as well. Great cheap way of getting records sounding their best. A buddy has a $1,500 high end cleaning system, after we compared them he agreed his system didn’t get them any cleaner. 😎
I now won't buy a record unless I've heard it first and I have to love it. I've got rid of all the records I don't listen to.
I´d go with a disco-antistat cleaner simply because it works out of the box and its cheaper.
My biggest problem was the stock cleaning liquid. I make my own now and does the job.
Interesting! I'm curious what you use to make that solution please?
@@MisterElement 3/4 demineralised distilled water, 1/4 alcohol and a few drops Kodak Flo 200. The latter one is to break the surface tension of the fluid, and you only need literally a drop or two.
I'm confused what caused your records to sound worse. Like, what actually happened to your records using older brushes? I'd guess scratches, but that can't be resurrected.
It appeared to be gunk (mold, dirt, debris, etc., caused by old brushes that weren't dried or cleaned properly) that was built up in the brushes then was transferred from the brushes into the grooves when I ran the records through the Spin-Clean.
@@howtovinyl Gotcha. Glad you figured that out and thanks for the warning!
It actually sounds better if you don't dry it. Playing it wet is a known thing.
"i'm a customer for life!" proceeds to use a shitty ckickbait title that could lead others to think the spin clean sucks
You should always Ul;trasonic clean your vinyls
A bath of dirt!
Yes and so is the Knosti too. All cleaners you use the water with liquid several times, is a bath in dirty liquid.
This is what happens when you are not equipped with many brain cells. I've been using Spin clean for years and have NOT worn out the brushes yet.
I always wash them after each use and let them completely dry before putting it away. Of course any padded item like these brushes could hold moisture and mold if you don't use common sense. The only thing I could add to how wonderful spin clean is, I got a second tank that I use just for the distilled water rinse. I never understood leaving any of the cleaning fluid to dry on the record. Since I've been rinsing, absolutely flawless results. Use your head, don't use this guys insufficient thought process.. Anybody can make a stupid video, it takes a person with common sense to get good results. And that title! 🤡
Waste of money - all you need is a plastic washing-up bowl, some warm water with washing-up liquid in it & a clean sponge. Works perfectly.
Tap water? Are you crazy?
@@pablorivascaamano2184 I don't know what is wrong with the tap water where you live but the tap water here leaves my records beautifully clean & at very little cost.
@@rosiemason-rk4cm tap water = minerals
@@pablorivascaamano2184 I have been using tap water to wash my records for at least 20 years & have noticed NO sign of damage. Is it the tap water in your area even safe to drink? If you wouldn't wash your records with it then I most certainly wouldn't drink it!!
Tap water varies depending on many factors, but absorbed minerals are key. If you live in a granite rock area = very soft water, little minerals . I live on chalk down land, groundwater extracted from chalk aquifers. Some of this water fell circa 1000 years ago and has permeated through chalk = hard water full of minerals. I clean my shower screen every day.
You have 1500 records but had to scrimp and save to buy something for $100? I’m sorry you lost your high paying job. 😮
I love the Spin Clean. It overall works great but the newer brushes are thicker than the ones I got years ago. This is not a problem with older, thinner records but it tends to cause an abrasion with the newer 180 or 200 gram records . It's like a stripe where the record is placed between the brushes. It does not appear to be audible but it is an annoying cosmetic problem. I would like to see Spin Clean offer 2 thicknesses of brushes to accommodate different size records.
The company did say that the brushes are improved from years ago and recommend that you use older, thinner records to start off with then once the brushes are broken in , then clean your newer 180 gram records.