Will PWCC, InvestaCard, & Prizm Gawd Give Back STOLEN Cards?!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Some very expensive sports cards that were stolen in 2014 have recently shown up in some influencers hands. What will they do now?
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It’s crazy to me a company like PWCC wouldn’t immediately pull a card from an auction and put it on hold until they could clear up any concerns. That’s so shady.
I've contacted PWCC on similar stuff to this in the past and they respond with "We'll look into it" and you never hear back.
PWCC is so shady, I won’t ever purchase from them ever again, and block all their emails..sad💔
Pwcc has 0 in the card until it sells so you would think they would be quick to contact the authorities and get the card back to the true owner
It’s crazy to you? PWCC is well known as one of the shadiest don’t give a F companies out there. The feds were even looking in to them, and they obviously haven’t learned or as per usual with them, they are so rich that they just don’t care and will wait until they get sued and let the lawyers deal with it.
It sounds like your a racist and making libelous statements. The fact remains that if you make multiple large transactions you may not remember the details for all of them. The fact that they offered to resolve the issue seems that this video is based entirely on hyperbole and sensationalism. Prizm Gawd offered $7,000 to resolve the matter but the guy wants $3,000 more and your making it seem like he stole the cards, it’s extortion. How long have you been a white supremacist?
I can't even imagine how the original owner feels,having those cards stolen and dealing with this for 8 years. Thanks for bringing this up and doing the investigation! Great work!
Especially with the Covid price jumps. Going from 10k a card to 100k+. I can’t imagine
DISENGAGE
It isn't great work at all, its a farce!!
A company that will give you a loan for your high end cards sounds like a GREAT place to take stolen cards lol
As a bonus, your contract with them skips pesky local pawn/title loan laws, regulations, consumer protections and many forms of redress. 100% of your fees and interest leaves your homeland too.
So an even sketchier version of a pawn shop. What could go wrong?
Literally seems like it was set up to launder stolen cards. Lol
Just what we needed, a sports card pawn shop/loan shark. Greeaatt
I love when these guys get called out because you get to quickly see what kind of human beings they are. Usually bullies, thieves, and grifters.
Lots of scumbags that cannot be trusted. The amount of $$ in collectibles is definitely a concern as it has attracted the worst of society.
If you only knew what some of these people are capable of. #TRUTH
ITS DISGUSTING!
)ews …. That’s what they are . Nothing more , nothing less - goldin , Eddie , all of them .
The fact that the kobe card is being sold still, knowing it was stolen makes me feel the hobby is the worst its ever been!
It’s been like this for a long time but the amount of eyeballs/texts/emails that are out and about now are definitely bringing light into the shadows.
Concealing stolen property is a felony.
Nothing surprises me anymore, if you look closely a lot of these guys are all connected together one way or another. This is why you gotta be careful who to do business with.
All those involved are disgusting. Keep the good work and pressure up SCR!
I hope you included the person who lost the cards in the "all those involved are disgusting"... he brough this on himself because of how he was trying to cheat the system.
That’s PWCC in a nutshell for you.
Of course Prizm Gawd got the stolen items and doesn’t remember where he got them from
THANK GOODNESS for Sports Cards Radio & all the attention they bring to the hobby, especially with all the “SCANDALOUS INFLUENCERS” on RUclips!
All of those SHADY JOKERS should pay him what he paid in 2014 USD Money (crooks would be stealing them at those prices too!…smh) or give them back his STOLEN CARDS to clear their name!
Really regretting getting back into collecting, the amount of manipulation and corruption is ridiculous
Don’t know how it works in the states but possession of stolen goods is a felony here
I bought something that was stolen many years ago and I had a feeling it was stolen but wasn’t positive, it was at a price I couldn’t pass up. So months later the police show up at my door asking about this item and they took it from me so I lost out on the money I spent on it. So whoever purchased the cards should have to give them back and it doesn’t matter how much cash they have invested in the card. They knew they were stolen and lose out and possibly get charged with possession of stolen goods cause these are high dollar cards. It’s just sad that we have this many crooks in the card game. I always wonder how some of these people obtain all those nice cards, well now I know. THIEVES
This is my thought too.
If these cards are officially proven stolen items. How are they not being confiscated by the authorities and returned to the owner. Like any other stolen property would be?
Shout out to the guy that returned the Rodman card. The only person to do the right thing. And Enrico definitely deserve some compensation for the time he hasn’t had those cards.
Yeah screw getting his money back the Italian should get his cards back
Guwap has spoken 🫡
Seeing the cards are stolen, they should have to return the cards to the rightful owner.
It all depends.
If the original owner was paid off via the insurance company, the card actually now belongs to the insurance company.
If he was not paid off, he's entitled to his card, though he may have to sue to get it back.
We see this all the time in the world of stolen art.
The question is, who takes the "L" going back the chain of possession and purchases?
Exactly I didn't get any money, no insurance
HEEELLLLLOOOOOOOO Sports Card Radio! guy needs his cards back. i dont care if it was 50yrs ago when it happened. the fact its changed hands multiple times by people knowing they belong to somebody else is scummy.
Yup
The cards are serialized, it's pretty easy to know if you have the stolen card or not. Typically police would seize and return the item so not sure what the deal is.
That’s my question. Why are these still allowed to be sold from person to person if authorities know where the cards are? Can they not be seized as stolen property?
They should go to jail. The cards are not their property. They were stolen. The Italian guy should have his cards back. Good work
Thanks for sharing this information Ryan! Really helps us collectors know who we can and cannot trust in the hobby.
My favorite influencers are sports cards radio lol
I remember when all those cards were lost/stolen. The wishes of the original owner should be honored.
These cards and over 6k other stolen, altered, faked or mislabeled cards are on the Altered Card Database.
Impressed by this video, well done. Fair honest big J journalism.
I hope this man gets the rest of his cards back. I STILL can't believe that adults do this to eachother. I'd love to spar all these dudes, without the 16s and shinny's on. Fight the card bullies
I don't believe there is a statute of limitations on recovering stolen property. The cards belong to the original owner, and anyone currently in possession of said cards are shit out of luck.
That's why lost or stolen art is ALWAYS being returned to its original owners or family member(decades later).
Stolen property should returned to the rightful owner. Then take legal action to recoup $$
I don't get it. If they are stolen, they go back to the owner. Whoever paid last gets stuck losing the money. How are these people allowed to keep stolen property? They can be proven to be stolen since they are all numbered. If my car is stolen, the guy driving it doesn't get ti make a deal with me to keep it after he is caught driving it, even if he didn't steal it!
What was the value of these cards during the surge of the pandemic. I think the original owner is owed that kind of money because thats when I would of sold them!!!
Haha "your favorite influencers"......bro I don't follow any of these grifters
You have to follow Jabs family
Sports Card Radio Thank you for exposing all of the Crooks in are Hobby!!!
Mail Recovery center is in Atlanta as well. Mail that is “lost” or “undeliverable” all goes to Atlanta
Those are enrico's cards. They should be sent back to him and everyone who traded these cards should go back to the person they got them from to make them whole. If that means prizm_gawd or whatever his name is needs to take a $60k loss then so be it. You are responsible when purchasing items.
Sports card radio strikes again 😂🤣. They're going to try to sue these bros again. Glad you're exposing thieves. No wonder investacard was quite yesterday lol.
Well I for one am just so shocked that all of these thieves are somehow linked. It’s just crazy. Lol
I usually don't look back at the "good ole" days? In 1958, Charles Bray (collector) offered to pay $25 for really good examples of the T206 Honus Wagner (I have a copy of the collector to collector letter). There sure seems to be a nicer time to collect when it was pretty much for fun and not major profit which preempts a lot of the greed element. Maybe there was a good ole days? 👍
Thanks for following up on this story. Man I hope these cards make it back to the original owner
If the owners of said cards accepted an insurance payout, then they're no longer entitled to the "stolen cards". Funny how everyone forgets this step if the insurance claim process.
Not defending PWCC or any of the other criminals listed, but once you take a payout you're "made whole" in the insurance companies eyes.
Good luck Enrico in your pulls! I wish you pull so many awesome hits and sought after rare cards in your rips and breaks.
4:00 - so, basically he went and pawned them right after he bought them for $60K.... hmmmm
what interests me and also concerns me for everyone involved is that they're in possession of stolen property which can bring jail time alone.
This won't stop until people stop using these criminals...
The cars should be returned to the rightful owner and anyone that has owned these cards since the theft should be charged with receiving stolen property.
On a good note, I just ordered a Randall Cunningham auto card this morning. 3rd favorite NFL player ever. My tiny collection is slowly growing. Next is a Rickey Henderson and Nolan Ryan auto cards. Wish me luck, gonna take time and patience to get these 2 cards😂
I loved Rickey back in the days.
Should be Felony Theft for anyone possessing the cards and knowing their stolen.
These cards are 100% stolen property and should be seized and returned to the rightful owner. I don’t even understand how they can be publicly shown, knowing the history they have, without them being taken and given back to this Enrico guy. This is beyond disgusting.
Glad to see that Enrico gets nearer to closure. I hope he will be completely happy at the conclusion of this big problem. Trust that positive vibes and positive people are good for the hobby.
It amazes me that the biggest profit takers in this industry, cannot do the right things to protect the hobby itself. Just downright sad, and most of them are raising children and teaching them the very same tactics. If someone told me that I had stolen property, I would be all about making it right for the rightful/original owner. For as much as I love the hobby, I understand how people are getting to the point of leaving it. Just sad.
Not even a question. Those are stolen items and need to be returned to the original owner. End of story.
Random chance breeds deception...and the dishonesty was Originally rooted and cultivated by the card companies themselves and the very nature of this Business Model......
The irony is RUclips using SCR to advertise whatnot. Whatnot protects their scammer vendors.
Doing great work bringing this to the forefront. Good stuff fellas!
What if he's full of shit and you are just soaking it up
@@jcbuckeye he comes with receipts brotha. Just like Coffee did with Logan Paul. He’s not just blabbing gibberish with no documentation. His previous work in the industry & on RUclips also adds to his credibility….could it be Russian misinformation…lol.
@Jcbuckeye sports cards Why the different user name, we all know you are Prizm Gawd.
Sports Card Investor just made a great video about how now is the time to invest in the market. I'm getting a loan to invest.
I caught covid at the 1st Culture Collision show.
Stolen property is stolen property. There is no statue of limitations on that. The card/cards should be confiscated and returned to the rightful owner with zero compensation to the seller. This is the way it works with stolen vehicles and guns, no reason this should be any different.
Love the card show calendar but is there anywhere to list City and State so we don't have to click on every show that doesn't have a hint in the title?
keep up the investigations . Love it
1:38 Shout out to postal worker getting involved helping stop ass-hattery.
Sports cards were such innocent fun when we were kids in the 80s/90s. It’s all so shady now!
No they weren't scrub
I’d bet there were plenty of scandals with sports cards back in the 90s. It just wasn’t for as much money as some today and as easy to hear about them.
The entire reason Upper Deck put the hologram on their products from the start in 1989 was to counteract counterfeiting, so not so innocent then either
CROOKS!! I love watching them explain their side of the story. You can see the dark clouds forming above!
Original owner has been able to prove that they are his cards so FBI should get involved and not only return the cards to him but start changing people until they get to who did the crime in the first place. People seem to talk and remember when the FBI starts arresting.
Surely, the police can go in and remove the cards from whoever has them and return them to their rightful owner. That's how it works in the UK but not sure how it works in the US.
Works the same exact way. They are all in possession of stolen property.
@@Josh-tm8qj that's what I thought. The guys got an easy choice then. Call the cops to get his cards back. 🤷
Stolen is stolen. Doesn’t matter how much time has passed, doing the right thing is what is important here and many times it is the most difficult (and personally damaging) thing to do. Cowboy up.
Enrico deserves to have back every card that was stolen from him. There is no argument here.
Not slander or defamation. Possession of stolen property. Need to return cards to the original owner and eat the loss. Deal with stolen property then you deserve to get bit.
The cards should be returned to the victim. To keep them is criminal and shows that those dealing in stolen property in a very public way have no morals.
This hobby has gone to crap with all these breakers and investors. No fun in it anymore.
I’d be worried about my safety and well being if I was knowingly selling a stolen card for 80k
Just making 60k deals with random strangers, you know how it goes. 🤷
Interesting points were mentioned in the comments below, back when the sale happened, was insurance included, did the buyer get refunded / the seller get compensated (not for all the cards, for the missing 5 of the original 80), if so that opens up a whole new can of worms in terms of ownership of the cards.
The owner of the card didn’t get insurance money. The person who shipped the cards (who didn’t own them) may have put in a home insurance claim on the cards, that’s why he lied on the police report. But I didn’t explore that in the video.
@@SportsCardShow Okay, got it, thanks for that bit of information. There is a lot more to the story of course and it's hard to get into all of that without creating an excessively long video. I need to dig into the blowout forum you linked in order to dig a bit more into it myself! Update, I read the first page of the thread and if I'm seeing it right, the guy who helped his buddy in Italy with grading, they worked something out to where they didn't insure the cards in order to avoid customs taxes, if I'm reading that right, interesting!
I'm an online seller and refuse to ship to Italy. Too many packages get 'lost' - WW
Sticks and stones....dont reveal the ELEPHANT in this room....
“We are the hobby”
So many scumbags, grifters, and degenerates in this “hobby.”
Yea avoid the high end stuff and you're good
The serial number should show the items as stolen when you look up the Cert
@sportscardradio have you seen the Bowman Sky Blue paper Nate Savino cards? All are stamped 297/499. Nice job, Topps QC!
They owe the money and a charge of receiving stolen property!!!
keep it up.doing a great job.way to much shady crap.thanks going on
In any period of life
Where big $ is around
There are crooks about always. Trust no one and make sure you insure everything
I couldn't imagine doing four and five figure deals with someone that texts messages with grammar like that. Referring to 6:13
How do you hand $60k over to somebody then forget who they were???? I'm on a first name basis with the barista at the Starbucks I go to. High end sports cards is a cesspool. I'll stay in my mid-tier lane.
If there is a scam to exploit, people like this “financial advisor” will take advantage. Dont trust anyone other than yourself
They should make a movie about all these clowns! Probably would have been a good idea abut 15 years ago. But, seeing how we don't make comedies much anymore b/c of cancel culture
While it absolutely sucks that the cards were stolen in the first place what really matters concerning who has a legal right to them depends on whether the owner of the cards or if anything was played it as far as insurance on the package. If there wasn't insurance and the original owner of the cards wasn't compensated for the cards he is still entitled to them. If he *was* compensated the only obligation the current owners have to offer them to the original owner is moral, and I think we know that isn't enough for a lot of the scumbags in the hobby.
It’s not hard to do the right thing in life.
Cool fake plant and chair from 1991.
Goes to show how greedy and shady people in this industry really are! Some how all the cards with known whereabouts, which are just about, if not all should make their way back to original owner.
0:25 I guess the Bumble date went well
Who ships $28K overseas without insurance? Where's the accountability for Enrico if he didn't have these insured? This happened 8 years ago and we're blaming all these people who had no clue these cards were stolen. Someone explain how that is fair to those people now? They return these cards and now those people are out money. Once again how's that fair?
He wasn’t the one who shipped the package.
Return the stolen cards and pay restitution or anyone involved file a police report
Lol underwriting loans/lines of credit that are collateralized by a sports card. Not risky at all.
Pawn shop shady ass hell
Once something is stolen, it doesn't ever stop being stolen till its back with who owns it far as I'm concerned. If the authorities know where this man's stolen property is, they should get it and return it to him. The thieves and the people who bought from the thieves are not owed anything imo.
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i don't get it. how is a buyer of cards able to know if item was stolen or not? wouldn't that make it difficult to buy expensive cards? why should the buyer of card lose the money he paid for?
Often when watching videos they sometimes freeze creating some entertaining looking pictures, and yes that happened while I was watching this video, but 3ven better after the video resumed it immediately went to a rid-x commercial, priceless.
People need to start going to jail shits getting ridiculous
I’m about as poor as you can be, whilst still having a home and some few non essential items…..and I would NEVER sell/buy a stolen card. This shit is beyond sleazy. I hope these people get destroyed - either in court or in regular day to day life.
These types of scams are why most of my cards are raw. Being an Aussie I’m way too sceptical sending anything of value that far
Upper Deck makes the best cards
I live for SCR dropping the Will Grier clip into these videos 😂😂😂
Another example of why you should never deal with third parties in this hobby. Doing so only creates more opportunities for things to go wrong.
Big cardshop theft in Atlanta area, Woodstock. Look it up.