Another abandoned train, south of Lambertvile, along Canal
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Along Delaware Canal, I was out walking today when I came upon another abandoned train. This poor guy is in rough shape. All of the seats have been pulled out, it has graffiti on the exterior and interior and there's rubbish scattered around. I love coming across these types of finds while out on a walk. If you have similar finds, please post a video response.
Here's the exact location in Google Maps:
tinyurl.com/3o5xau
A railroad coach has 18 windows, a house has 30 or more, so more windows means more airflow!
The images remind me when I first read the book series, "The Boxcar Children".
I'm sorry for the nasty comments directed towards Cockroack2008 Iivardo, But nice video. The coach you stand in, is of Central Railroad of New Jersey, or CNJ for short, Heritage. It's primary use was to transport commuters from Suburbs to cities. Most cars are in shape like so today.
Hope this Helps. :)
thats odd, looks like it was in operation a few years ago, and maybe NS or CSX left it there when they bought conrail, but still cool find, i wonder is a 70ton , or 100ton hopper
amazing
hi i live near cleveland ohio i was wnadering if you knew of any places where there are abandonedtrains
Well thinking of scrapping a historical pice of railroad equipment is not the thing to be thinking.
But if you want to scrap any railroad old caol cars, go to Leesport,PA. on the Reading & Northern Penny's branch. they have about 50 old cars just sitting there waitting for the scrappers torch.
Good luck.
Len.
@SpeedMjam Its a song :D
my video response is an old old abandon train tunnel in Penticton BC Canada there are 3 of them... will get more video soon... also i know of about 4 abandon Houses around i will get vid of soon one of which has an old garage with a car from the 20's or early thirtys in it ... very creepy also one has several graves in the back yard
Its the Belvidere Division of the PRR, originally the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from 1851. Freight service continued until the line's final days in 1978, when Conrail abandoned about half of the line between Milford and Trenton. The Bel-Del's Kent Yard in Phillipsburg, N.J. and Coalport Yard, which was adjacent to Route 1, were both destroyed near the end of the '70s. So sad to see commerce rise and fall and have history fade away.
The most despicable event to happen was in 1979 and 1980, when Conrail began removing the tracks between Milford and Lambertville and from this exact point to Trenton. Where that truck is parked in the beginning; its actually parked on the former Right-of-Way of the old Bel-Del. The hopper car was put there as a bumper after its breaking broke during service at Traprock Industries quarry above Lambertville. The coach was put there in the late '80s.
Penn Central, a major money pit disaster, filed for bankruptcy in 1970, the same year Black River & Western purchased the Flemington Branch. Penn Central operated the Belvidere Division from 1968 to 1976, when Conrail, a government created company, tookover Penn Central and other bankrupt northeast railroads. Lastly, between 1976 and 1978, the last trains traveled between Trenton and Belvidere. Conrail abandoned south of a town called Milford through Lambertville to Trenton that year.
I know 90% of what this once heavily active rail-line is about. Between 1851 and 1855, it was built as the Belvidere-Delaware Railroad from Trenton through here north to a town in Warren County, N.J. called Belvidere. Between 1871 and 1968, the Pennsylvania Railroad operated it as their Belvidere Division, along with a shorter branch line to Flemington called the Flemington Branch. PRR merged with New York Central to become Penn Central in 1968.
The CNJ coach was not Conrail property, it was and still is owned by the Black River & Western Railroad, which owns the tracks from Lambertville northeast to Flemington. The hopper car however was obviously owned by Conrail. The only other cars in Lambertville that were Conrail property are the two boxcars on the disconnected sidetracks behind Lambertville station, which is now a restaurant.
I truly believe these coaches instead of being abandoned like they are should be given to FEMA to convert to emergancy housing they could be converted and stored securely until need then taken by rail to places devastated by natural disasters such as cyclones then offered to families who have had there homes damaged or destroyed once the homes are repaired they coaches are returned to FEMA and stored to next time
@becky334
That depends on what part of Sweden one was brought up in. Up north people are generally very calm and some would say friendly. In the big cities (especially Stockholm) people are far more stressed and show little considerations for each other, but they are also more straight to the point.
I agree you are a nice girl. That would be my first impression. I mostly raised myself since my parents disagreed on most things so I had myself as the rolemodel growing up.
@becky334
lol. Well I am pretty much the same, though I tend to be typically Swedish neutral at first (and Swedes aren't known to get easily worked up), but beyond a certain limit I will defend myself and other innocent people. People who think they know me before they even exchange a single sentence with me I have very little patience with and I'll let them know it. I don't like being misunderstood but mostly I think it's not my fault but others who assume too much. "tough cookie", like that
@becky334
Clever girl.
You take no crap from noone. I admire that quality in people, too many are too worried what others will think of them and hence transform themselves into personalities that are artificial and far from their true selves.
You are a stable personality and seem to know yourself. All respect from my side. Keep being you, that's your biggest fortune in life.
Btw, thanks for respecting my integrity.
@SegoRailroadModels I am okay & nonviolent. It is CountVonBoco who seems to exhibit bipolar violent disorder. He needs to take his medications, sit down, relax & watch an urban graffiti artist dress up this old wrecked out passenger coach. Then send of to a scrap yard & watch as it is cut apart into pieces. Then watch as those pieces are melted in a foundry. It will improve his life!
It is not at my expense! I will not pay a dime to store any old useless junk iron like this.
But what I will do, is pay you to tow it to my scrap yard where I will cut it up into pieces which fit into the crucible of either a blast or induction furnace.
Then we take the melt and make them into new products like stainless steel sinks for restaurants, key stock, bar stock, anchor chain links, trench plate, corrugated mud barrier iron, construction rebar, manhole covers, or steel wall studs!
Steam locomotives & old junk coach cars need to be recycled. This means cutting them up, melting them down and using the materials to make new products.
If these are so important to have historically restored, you need to get the money & group together to make it happen.
Storing them for your own interests will not occur at my cost. It is for you to pay.
And if you can't, it is time to junk it out, cut it up & melt it down!
History should be found between the pages of a history book. Preserving this junk iron, pot metal and garbage is a very expensive (an unnecessary) endeavor.
Cutting up metal junk into pieces small enough to fit through the opening of a blast furnace crucible. If the iron is high enough grade, then placing them into the melt of an induction furnace is a better place for this junk.
The materials can be used to make new products.
It is how I make my living! Junk them out, cut them up, melt them!
History belongs between the pages of a history book!
HIstorical pieces of railroad equipment belong in new products. Getting them into the scrap yard is the first step, then the crew parts it up, junks it out, and torches cut it up into pieces to fit into the crucible of a blast furnace. When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products.
Junk them all out including the 50 cars from Leesport, PA & this wreck in Lambertville, NJ.
Junk steam locomotives!
typicaly Conrail Fashion, they abandoned that line, ripped up the tracks and left the hopper and the Coach, I'm sure eventually the Railroad society in Phillipsburg would be interested in buying more property from the old Bel-Del line out there to extend their Scenic Train Rides, currently they run out to Milford NJ where the tracks end but I'm sure they plan to add the remaining track bed and even restore at least the hopper car and add it to their collection of rolling stock
The next time you go to these trains, look on the side of the cars for a small panited black square, because in it it'll have numbers. One will say BLT with 2 numbers, which will be the build date of that car. Example: BLT 9/ 56 means built in September 1956. When you find that out, please put on here their build dates for historical interest.
I like trains too. I like what they are, what they do, and how they developed.
It is just that preserving this junk and denying the materials for use in new products is wrong.
I also enjoy old railroad equipment, steam locomotives and their tenders for the fun of cutting them apart and sending them to the smelter.
It is how I make my living!
Also true! The one thing about burning a railroad coach over a house, despite the fact that the house may have 30 windows, which can let in air, the railroad coach, has air space directly under it!
This is perfect for the hottest fire which can be made! The coach and car in this video would burn quickly, hot and completely!
Flame on!
@McLarenMercedes okay i see i'am not cracking info about someone just by asking me no you will have to tie me up then i might talk i also have a hard inside when needed. Swedes are kinda resverd to others. i'am rasied that way to but i'am as i said before a nice girl.
@McLarenMercedes i'am a tough cookie but i have the heart on the right place. You bet you're boots on i'll keep beeing myself and i know about integrity to others it's the way i am. I give you my respect back. I might seem harsh but i'am not it's just the outside. you're very welcome.
@McLarenMercedes yeah becca is common in sweden but also becky. I see i won't revieal you're name on here in respect for you're integrety. Beckaroni hehe that was a new one nice i've been called all kinds of stuff in high school. but i take no crap from noone.
@becky334
well I know this Becca in the States, although I actually call her Becks, her friends call her Beckster, Becky even Beckaroni (she's of Italian descent).
I think Becka is most common in Sweden.
My name is the same as the new prince of Sweden, the one princess Victoria married.
If it is all metal, it won't burn. The truth is, in old railroad coaches, before ordinances and building codes were so ridgid, there is plenty of flamables in the coach to burn hot. It just needs a good ignition source. A flamable liquid will find where those materials are and assist!
hey i was looking on google maps and i found out that the new hope and ivryland railroad museum is just a few blocks west, i dont know if you know that but if you go there and report what you found, they might be able to restore the cars
@McLarenMercedes yeah that's true i live in the south part of sweden and people here are friendly but stressed with in turn gives at least in my town crazy cylists theryre like kambinicazi pilots i tell ya. Yes i am a nice girl i try to be at least.
@McLarenMercedes i guess my mind was played a trick on me and no that is not my humor it is wierd but not that wierd sence of humor at all. it was scary anyhow i didn't expect something to fall on top of me and pin me to the floor
This is a Central of New jersey CNJ coach, probably not abandoned. many small railroads take a long time to restore their equipment, it may also be just a spare parts car. extras like this are often just parked somewhere conveinient or out of the way.
That's a pretty big leap buddy!! I think when or if they ever put something like this in a museum, some spraypaint is the least of their worries. RECYCLE IT.
I FULLY agree. I am just someone who has always liked/loved Trains, Railroads, etc. BUT
Steel is 100% Recycleable
Like Cockroach says:
"When melted, the materials are poured, forged, hammered & shaped into new products"
I am here to stay. I don't need to play with myself and I have nothing better to do with my time in between scrapping jobs.
I am not wasting time, I am looking for more "opportunities" to scrap and cut up!
Owned by the Black River and Western, I think this is one of the cars they are restoring right now. It should be on their main page under projects.
Very cool find. I stayed in Lambertville a few years ago and never realized had I walked about another 900 ft or so down the canal trail that I would have seen this on the other side of the canal.
Very interesting video. Thanks for posting. I may be repeating what someone else has said in a comment, but that passenger coach is an old commuter coach. Could it be off the old Central of New Jersey?
@McLarenMercedes lol i'vent been called becka since high school nice. Thank you mclaren i was tierd and alone that night so i was thinking about everything i've been told before leaving the tent.
Because today's "Abandoned garbage" is tomorrow's museum piece. It's really not much different than if someone had gone and vandalized a lost Native American city or an Egyptian tomb
@livardo If you find an abandond Steam Engine somewhere, please tell me where you found it, I've always wanted to go inside an abandond train, (EXPECIALLY A STEAM LOCOMOTIVE'S CAB)
@McLarenMercedes what do you know about what i found that night in that barn? I know what i saw the flashlight was pointing right at the body i did forgott my camera that night to
There are several old coaches/caboose rotting away at the Boonton, NJ, station. There are two cabooses and a coach at the Newfoundland, NJ, station, but those are NOT abandoned.
why dont you go find out which railroaafter wardd owns it! go buy it and restore it! and see if afterward anyone would buy or make it into a moveable cabit for youself!
@SpeedMjam Dunno.An old one XD.Nothing like you see today.Theres a tree growing threw it.PS theres other abandoned military stuff there from circa WII I think.
@SpeedMjam Dunno.An old one XD.Nothing like you see today.Theres a tree growing thre it.PS theres other abandoned military stuff there from circa WII I think.
@livardo. You bet i screamed and after getting lose from the body i took off running all the way home leaving my bike behind about a klometer from the house.
it is sad to see what the trains go to this,i saying that at the begining of the 20th centrey,the trains rulled! know this not even abell to pay to scrap a car...
These trains sit right next to the Lambertville sewage facility. The smell is overpowering. I can almost smell it right through the screen as I watch this.
@SpeedMjam Its on federal property i.e. no one alowed on site,but no one is there to protecte it.Btw that comment was 2 years ago.Lol.I still typed nooby.
i truly wonder if the railroads know about all thier rolling stock. seems funny how equipment like this could be left so long and not moved or scrapped
It's an old Central Railroad of New Jersey commuter car that was probably used as an inspection car by Conrail when the line was still in service. An unusual find, as the Delavare & Raritan Canal Line had been operated by the Pennsylvania Railraod. It's southern section below Trenton to Camden is still active with CSX Freight overnight and the RiverLINE light rail line all other times. The old Trenton freight yard is now State Route 129 with the two outermost tracks kept for the RiverLINE.
This is so cool! I wish we could come a cross ghost trains like this in our area!(Kingston Ontario).
As CountVon Boco suggested,I believe this car's primary use was for commuters. If you notice the curved border near the ceiling that runs the length of the car. This is where advertisements were placed. Similar to buses today.
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Check out the description of the video. Click "more info" to see a URL to take you to a Google Maps page which shows you exactly where it is. If I remember correctly, there was some type of chemicals factory nearby. The train wasn't exactly along the marked path that goes along the canal. Check the map.
you bet. I screamed like never before. After getting lose from the body i took off running all the way home about 1 km away from the house
the hopper is intact, now only if Conrail could find this location
unfourtounately the coach is unrestorable ASBESTOS, and other hazardous things like mold are growing inside it.
You should contact conrail and tell them about your find
IMMEDIETLY!
But old railroad coaches are more fun to burn! The air gets in under them, which feeds the fire. Railroad coaches burn extremely hot!
should have shown the viewer what else was around the area. I could see well maintained buildings and trees. What was there?
Speaking from the perspective of an urban explorer (not that I'm much of one, mind you)... I have to say I'm more thrilled about finding these old, abandoned vehicles than the historical aspect of it.
abandoned train is mutch more peaceful than what i found my accident in sweden for about 14 years ago in an abandoned barn
a shame really, that is a piece of history rusting away. it should be restored and saved for future generations to enjoy.
You might even make parts for new rail cars out of it... as far as that goes, there might even be some parts (wheels etc) reusable or salable as is, if not too heavily rusted.
All the rail equipment is own by the Black River and Western Railroad. and they know its there.
Len.
i dont have video camera but its in tracy city tenessee if you want to see it.theres all kinds aramy junk lying around
Thats the most truth ive heard in a single sentence! Wait, mobile homes have air space underneath as well as many windows too. But what if the coach cars are mostly metal?
That's a perfect place for graffiti! why get so upset about someone writing on abandoned garbage?
relly wish i could find stuff like this, i'm a big fan of abandoned shit, it's got such a meloncholy vibe to it
i found a dead man in barn hanging in a rope as i was trying to get out of the way the body fell on top of me.
DUDE! YOU SHOULD TOTALLY REFURBISH THE PASSENGER CAR! MAYBE YOU COULD GET IT REGISTERED BY AMTRAK AND MAKE IT YOUR OWN PRIVATE CAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The description of the video (top right corner, click "more info") has a tinyurl link that will take you to the exact location. It's in Lambertville, NJ.
Ahh, history seen by exploring wrecks and abandonments of the past, LOVE IT!
We need to keep people like cockroach from destroying the past! =)
thats the cars when they made the frame of the set from steal and the set with wood and put cusions on them
You pay for the restoration! Then you will understand why it has been abandon and scheduled to be scrapped!
sorry about the posts livardo i didn't mean to offend you still great video i can't find that in sweden.
@Cockroach2008 Okay okay okay okay... everybody calm down. No need to get violent here.
@tommyv2468 If you'd take a look at my profile and my country you'd probably understand that it wasn't meant thaaaaat serious.... :D
@dragclan2000 in sweden somewhere i can't remember the exact location. But it was deep in the woods
Don't ya just love the Black River and Western for leaving those historic rail cars to rust and rot?
good videos in my town they had an old depot and and old box car but then one day people came and scraped it man i was upset
I have been looking for a place near me, where there is an abandoned train. I can't find it, but you got lucky and found one
I found this on Googe Maps - pretty easy find actually from the help of the video... thanks!!
looks lke that passenger car was sent for scrap and left there to rott.... what a shame....
@tommyv2468 nice that you respond...
But would love to see a video of that...
Which type of tank was it?! :)
You are probably right about that. Perhaps it would be better to say these poor guys have been "neglected" :)
Places like this are fantastic to practice spray painting.
I see some nice practice throwup tags...beauty.
@becky334
Ok, Becky (or Becka, whichever you prefer). I'll take your word for it. :)
DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY THE GREEN ONE IS WORTH ?? YHST'D AN OLD PASSENGER CAR PROLLY 10 15 K EASY
... and although I would be interested about hearing how they got there, I can always go to a museum.
@tommyv2468 Okay. So I'll just walk over and have a look.... :DDD
Believe me, I'd love to.... :(
Thanks.. post more if you have them. I lived in Vancouver for 18 years and I still call it home.
You should have set a fire in that old coach car and burned it to the ground!
i just see of dollars worth of scrap ,lots of scrap and lots of dollars!!!!!!
sweet, a conrail hopper in lambertville, shows the line operated not more than 30 years ago.
the passenger car would make a great little coffe shop....w/a LOT of work.
Why do they just leave them there? Aren't they worth money in scrap metal?
Ah.. I believe that. I thought it was all the crap from the Canada Geese hanging around.