I was very skeptical about the 0x129 fix. I have an MSI Z790-a pro and 13th Gen 13600k. I was getting dangerous temps running cinebench r23. After the bios update and activating XMP, keeping intel profile, I actually noticed my idle voltage went from 1.2v to 0.9v. And the cinebench temp form CPU maxed at 90c. I DID lose about 500 it's on cinebench, but the CPU is definitely more stable. I almost undervolted but at an avg of 1.150v and min of 0.752v I think undervolting would probably crash the PC. So TLDR; CPU is working better with minimal performance loss (minor loss)
drop the Offset voltage to -0.150 , you will get much better core voltages and low temps as well boost the performance , reaching 100c means its getting very high core voltages on cores
You have to disable CEP and SEP in bios settings if you haven’t already. Also since it’s a 13900K it’s in Intels spec where you can set the iccmax to 400A
It does look to lose performance but this is all the result of thermal throttling to the CPU. It is NOT over heating! It is just scales down the clocks to prevent exceeding 100C and this has an impact on the benchmark score. According to intel, the purpose of the latest microcore releases is to fix CEP (Current Excursion Protection) feature and limit the voltage requests of the CPUs to a maximum of 1.55V. The rest of the BIOS settings is what actually causing the high temps and low benchmark scores. We kind of got punished here for showing no trust to intel. Not all chips are equal, but for the ones that are really bad performers, instead of RMA them, we end up having the rest of the chips chopped-off so the panic that some fearmongers spread for their own reasons, to be compensated. Now the only way to get the performance back, is to tweak the BIOS settings which shouldn't be a problem at first place. Systems with no adequate cooling and fine tuned BIOS settings, were under-performing silently since 12th gen but nobody was seem to care about because everybody knew. Whoever didn't know, was the one that wouldn't care anyway. Good job every "tech-news" reporter for instead of educating their audience, chose to spread the fear and uncertainty. As for us hardware enthusiasts, I m afraid, we see maybe the last CPU generation that is even remotely fun to fiddle with.
I appreciated your Video showing us how to update BIOS. Yet videos on this needs to be addressed properly. Ask any Motherboard and or Processor manufacturers technician directly, what their recommendations are, either by Phone call, email, or chat session using their expertise. Here are the recommendations proposed by many motherboard manufacturers #1 disable XMP first as part of any motherboard BIOS update, allowing for a failsafe update, #2 always update in increments, never update BIOS to the latest version and #3 never use BETA versions, doing this will void motherboard warrantees, BETA's are always (use at your own risk) experimental quick fixes for testing unproven results and, could or will lead too Motherboard and or any processor returns void of warrantee, as stated under written manufacturers warrantees. Until this gets resolved either switch your processors out using one that will work without voiding your warrantees. Or wait for a BIOS update that isn't a Beta BIOS update. Also, updated BIOS needs to be reset by experienced people knowing what will need to be reset. Just updating motherboard BIOS will most likely interfere with a PC's current configuration unless you know what you are doing. Furthermore a complete wipe of a Hard drive SSD or M.2 should be done, "Not a Reset" Resetting Windows operating System only reinstalls drivers and firmware from the past installation. You must disable "One Drive", use your original Windows Product Key or by writing it down and use it again after a complete reinstall of Windows. this will insure all new driers and firmware will be installed. My background is a basic PC technician. I don't write code, make programs or discuss what will be next. I simply do updates when needed or service PC's. And have been at it since IBM 8086 and 8088 motherboards. I just turned 70, love gaming and still enjoy building my own rigs. I also have an ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero with an Intel Core i7 13700K that I will downgrade to a Core i9 12900K, rather than wait for INTEL to fix because frankly INTEL never has fixed their mistakes and never will. They just move on hoping we will forget it!
Im getting similar results of performance loss on a 13700k. 29k-30k pre update and now its about 26k. For me it says its power limited and max P core frequencies are about 4.4-4.5. So im losing like 1 ghz on the high end all core. Not sure if this is normal.
@@Shmoxx. Does that mean that I don't have to download anything if your laptop has an intel 13th and 14th generation? Are you sure there aren't any reported issues related to this?
im on the gigabyte elite ax with 13700k, it drops clocks down, volts are 1.35 and power is still 253,p cores are 4.9-5 and ecores are 3.9-4, insted of 5.3 and 4.2, it loses 2000 points on cinebench r23, its a gigabyte thing, since they started the intel default setting, mines on performance, nothing else touched , dont know why or where the limit is, is there a fix?
just curious, is it posible that ' Windows ' will include these update (for 13th and 14th gen) soon ? I hope Microsoft will give us a hand with this one.
I know but it’s time to learn . Trust me I know cause I went thru it . I read the intel document . I learnt bios setting to a small degree but enough to understand what is what I don’t overclock But I posted my setting above
FYI I test warzone , fivem with heavy mods , cyberpunk and have zero crashes or thermal throttling with low temp. Sure performance has a small impact but you’re still at p core performance . Basically what u found it is the 2 cores that go to 6ghz creates thermal throttling and instability . Basic words here. So I just manually locked my p-cores
"The new BIOS includes Intel microcode 0x129 and adjusts the factory default settings. "for the non-K processors". It literally tells you this on Asus website, I don't know about any other motherboard websites.
I limited turbo boost on the cpu by about 1.5 GHz, do you think this will prevent the issue? I would undervolt but Lenovo’s latest bios update removed the ability to.
Sorry guys I’m a noob when it comes to pc but after your bios it was at 1.49v? I thought that was bad? Before the update it was 0.9ish. The voltage of the cpu before the bios update at start at the video around 4:58 vs 10:16.
the reasons for that change is voltage is most likely cuz he had undervolt setting on and when he updated it over run that setting to its default voltage and yest that voltage may be high but for an i9 its actual normal acording to intel "Typically, the maximum Voltage Range for Processor Operating Mode is 1.72V. Your i9-13900k running at 1.412V"
Are laptop processors also experiencing elevated voltage issues? I have an i5-13420H with max TDP of 45W. Should I be concerned about a microcode update?
Is cinebench causing the thermal throttling? Is that detrimental to the cpu. What if I use my computer for cpu rendering of still scenes in corona render for 3ds max. Shoud I wait a week for a newer update. Thanks
How do I find out what Motherboard I have? When I ordered my PC they made some last second change to it. All I know is that it's not the mainboard it says in the invoice and the communication was a bit confusing.
Your bios should tell you what motherboard you have. Press the "del" key repeatedly after turning on your computer and then study the bios screen for information about your motherboard. Hope this helps.
You know you can avoid the issue without the microcode right? Anyone with a chip that hasn't degraded yet can change a few settings in the bios. People that changed these settings on day one don't even need a "fix". For customers with chips that can't be fixed, they'll get a new chip. So whether this microcode is a fix or not, is irrelevant. I just bought a 13700k, and have no intentions of even applying it. I might still, but I have no intentions to.
@@DingleBerryschnappsI have been using a fixed vcore for 13900k between 1.25-1.30 since day one pretty much.Do I still need to update the bios to the new microcode you think?
@@pm110978yes. You can still run same voltage but 6ghz voltage requests are lower. I have no performance loss with new Intel defaults/extreme. Set back to 320 pl1pl2 and core at 1.265v. Close to 40k cinebench
@@realrichbunny Intel has been caught refusing valid RMA's, wrongfully claiming Microcenter and Amazon-purchased CPUs are "not genuine" and threatening to destroy any CPU's they receive that they deem "not genuine", with absolutely no recourse for the buyer. Do NOT trust Intel RMA. They are in cost-cutting mode and they are fucking A LOT of people.
@@tempestblaze6051 It's the same architecture without the excessive voltage request. without this code the current was unlimited, now it's Intel POR and I never have to be concerned about it being a problem or not...
@@Bass.Player voltage requests are the one which are killing cpus. The code has been released and it is performing worst than expected. The idle temps are high for some reason. And the VDD volatages are going above critical limit set by intel.. limit is 1.300 voltage nowthey are going above 1.500 voltage.
@@Bass.Player i also have i5 13500 i also tested R23/R2024 and my VID max was 1.354 and max temps were 75 degrees. I hope it stays that way i don't this CPU to die.. intel has not even extended the warranty on i5 13500s..i purchased my new PC in 2023 after 2015 and i love it.. it is so good than my older potato.. and now i am afraid it can die any second.. i just hope it does not have the "oxidation" probelm which other 13th and 14th gen CPUs are suffering from they say that they are slowly dying inside due to manufacturing mistakes which resulted in oxidation. Hope uour CPU also survive bro
Im running the 14900k and now getting the the blue screen of death and already tried reformatting and a new install thinking that would of fix the problem so I don’t know if its to late for me also I haven’t tried the new bios update yes i will try this today and let you guys know if it worked for me or already screwed.
If you are experiencing a blue screen, it is because your chip is already damaged. The BIOS update is for those who have not yet experienced a blue screen
Why bother buying an unlocked cpu to overclock when you are gimped! 😊. And did you know you can just hold down the delete key to get into the bios? 😂. Try it.😊
I have a Z790- C MOBO, 14700KF cpu. I am a newb, so bear with me. I am updating today to 0x129. My CPU gets very hot when playing. Will this help with the temps? I’m talking 80s in Cuberpunk and if I play 4k with even moderate ray tracing it can spike to 90/100c. Any help would be HUGELY APPRECIATED!!!
Just stick with the under-volt gen microcode 0x129 sucks (It cusses thermal throttling). My vid never goes higher than 1.429v under full load. Getting 4004 in Cinebench R23 no thermal throttling. I am using 14900k.
Brother, you are leaving too much performance behind. take my settings and you are safe only for Gigabyte Intel Default Disable Pervdrive: Optimize Enhanced Multi Core Disable XMP1 Adaptive Vcore Offset -0.095 or higher if it works A400 or lower if you need Loadline High AC and DC :45 to 55 IA VR Config Enable IA VR Voltage Limit 1400 TVB Enable CEP Enable (If score low set AC DC Higher) Intel 1.55V max shit performance My settings Better performance and only 1.4V max If you want you can also switch to 1.3v but you will lose performance
It depends on silicone lottery, doesn't it? I have a 14900K and haven't installed new uefi/microcode yet, but I have it undervolted -0.1V, it never exceeds 1.31V and still boosts to max clock, because its a good bin.
@@Joh_Lam Yes, but you have to remember that not everyone can run a stable under voltage of 0.1v, so with IA VR Voltage Limit it doesn't matter and everyone can stay under 1.4v or 1.3v. and most of the time you only have the high voltage in single core workloads
@@onlinegaming4826 Yeah, you are absolutely right. I know this from my own experience. My first 14900k despite undervolting efforts did go to 1.5V+ and it died after 3 months. It had slight stability issues right from the beginning though. The voltage limit is fine, but I am also thinking that maybe during binning of some of the first batches Intel may have made relatively bad silicone become i9, because yield was bad. But that is just me speculating. Anyway, got very quick RMA and the new 14900K is just way better. Big difference from 1.5V to 1.3V.
@@Joh_Lam Yes, it's great if you have such a great 9I. If it's that good, you can set IA VR Volatge Limit of 1.4 and you won't even notice anything and you're safe ;) And do some benchmarks, you will surely have a very high score Cinebench 23 and 15 also good test for stability especially R15
I do not really understand why some people still think some micro-code fix anything ?? Just simple lock Your cores, lock your voltage and You are done. Video like this make more damage then micro-code itself.Just make video about manual OC/UV and will be better.My opinion.
The microcode changes how much power the CPU will deliver to a core when it is boosting a single core or duel cores, that's why the microcode fixes this issue with only a minor effect on performance. But if you already disabled single core boosting from the start, then you shouldn't have any issues.
updating to the latest microcode is useless and doesn't get rid of degradation. It just slows it down. My tuned and heavily undervolted 14700K scores 35,700 with a $50 aio
Something doesn't look right at all here....on your previous bios and microcode version everything looked like it was idling sweet, namely, 0.984 volts and a temperature of 38.0c. The new bios and microcode update have your volts at 1.491 and temperature at 44.0c. This is insane. I think you have borked your cpu performance and temperature has improved by exactly zero. If your 13th or 14th gen i9 is performing well I'd stay away from these updates until further information arises and clarifies the situation because at the moment it's as clear as mud. Your logic is deficient. Some i9 13th and 14th gen cpus were degrading, and therefore, you conclude, ALL 13th and 14th gen i9 cpus are degrading. This is clearly not the case. You may as well argue some humans are 6ft tall, so therefore ALL humans are 6ft tall.
I think you need a better cooler, something is still not right with your system or your Processor has already been damaged. I have a 13900KS (was lucky and had no issues) and I can run CineBench R23 and get like a 36K+ score and no thermal throttling at all. Also my temps stay in the high 70's to low 80's when running the test in gaming I stay in the low 70's with an occasional spike here and there but never past 85c. I do have a CORSAIR H170i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 420mm AIO however and an MSI MEG ACE Z790 MB and have the cooling tuning set to the new intel default which keeps the PL1 and PL2 at 253W. I could probably push it higher and get a better result but I'm one of those hey if it's working and does what I want it to do then don't mess with it type of guys. I'm also not one of those that has to get every ounce of Ghz out of my CPU. I'm more than satisfied with what I get. I hope your chip has not already been damaged, but I would look further into why your getting those temps and thermal throttling. Good Luck.
same I got a 14900k and its set to 253 watts , CineBench at get about 83-93 degrees max after 5 min. before the CPU used to hit 100c in just a few seconds after the patch and CPU bracket its much cooler , and when I used to sure the web I used to get high temps not anymore
AMd not better look at zen 5, schedule issues, not booting, memory issues, weird software behavior etc. hello beta testers again, if you buy it you buy problems at the same time.
Nah it works . Be patient . If your still thermal throttling behind this point lock p-cores . Check my setting above that needs changing after the update . If still your having issues send it for RMA AS your cup officially degraded
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Does this mean we can go back to "normal" BIOS settings from down-clocked fail-safe ones?
fr, mine has been under-voltaged for about a year and a half just protecting against the damn heat issues
What settings do you recommend with the new bios on your 13900k?
ill stick with offset undervolt for now
I was very skeptical about the 0x129 fix. I have an MSI Z790-a pro and 13th Gen 13600k. I was getting dangerous temps running cinebench r23. After the bios update and activating XMP, keeping intel profile, I actually noticed my idle voltage went from 1.2v to 0.9v. And the cinebench temp form CPU maxed at 90c. I DID lose about 500 it's on cinebench, but the CPU is definitely more stable. I almost undervolted but at an avg of 1.150v and min of 0.752v I think undervolting would probably crash the PC. So TLDR; CPU is working better with minimal performance loss (minor loss)
I have a i5 13600k too would you mind telling me what was your default stock voltage was .thank you
@Satoru-Kai In bios prior to microcode update I was reading 1.286v after 0.982v
13600k here... I'm getting 0.9 sometimes 1.31 v on idle , and I haven't updated the bios yet. Think I'm gonna do it just to be safe.
Sure……..but you didn’t get what you paid for………so…….how does that make you feel.
Set Svid to + 0.0500 and lock p-cores it’s the 2 beauty cores that starts going crazy . No more crashes after this
drop the Offset voltage to -0.150 , you will get much better core voltages and low temps as well boost the performance , reaching 100c means its getting very high core voltages on cores
You have to disable CEP and SEP in bios settings if you haven’t already. Also since it’s a 13900K it’s in Intels spec where you can set the iccmax to 400A
why disable disable CEP and SEP? you mean IA CEP and SA CEP right???
It does look to lose performance but this is all the result of thermal throttling to the CPU. It is NOT over heating! It is just scales down the clocks to prevent exceeding 100C and this has an impact on the benchmark score. According to intel, the purpose of the latest microcore releases is to fix CEP (Current Excursion Protection) feature and limit the voltage requests of the CPUs to a maximum of 1.55V. The rest of the BIOS settings is what actually causing the high temps and low benchmark scores. We kind of got punished here for showing no trust to intel. Not all chips are equal, but for the ones that are really bad performers, instead of RMA them, we end up having the rest of the chips chopped-off so the panic that some fearmongers spread for their own reasons, to be compensated. Now the only way to get the performance back, is to tweak the BIOS settings which shouldn't be a problem at first place. Systems with no adequate cooling and fine tuned BIOS settings, were under-performing silently since 12th gen but nobody was seem to care about because everybody knew. Whoever didn't know, was the one that wouldn't care anyway. Good job every "tech-news" reporter for instead of educating their audience, chose to spread the fear and uncertainty. As for us hardware enthusiasts, I m afraid, we see maybe the last CPU generation that is even remotely fun to fiddle with.
You're da BOSS! Thanks
I appreciated your Video showing us how to update BIOS. Yet videos on this needs to be addressed properly. Ask any Motherboard and or Processor manufacturers technician directly, what their recommendations are, either by Phone call, email, or chat session using their expertise.
Here are the recommendations proposed by many motherboard manufacturers #1 disable XMP first as part of any motherboard BIOS update, allowing for a failsafe update, #2 always update in increments, never update BIOS to the latest version and #3 never use BETA versions, doing this will void motherboard warrantees, BETA's are always (use at your own risk) experimental quick fixes for testing unproven results and, could or will lead too Motherboard and or any processor returns void of warrantee, as stated under written manufacturers warrantees. Until this gets resolved either switch your processors out using one that will work without voiding your warrantees. Or wait for a BIOS update that isn't a Beta BIOS update.
Also, updated BIOS needs to be reset by experienced people knowing what will need to be reset. Just updating motherboard BIOS will most likely interfere with a PC's current configuration unless you know what you are doing. Furthermore a complete wipe of a Hard drive SSD or M.2 should be done, "Not a Reset" Resetting Windows operating System only reinstalls drivers and firmware from the past installation. You must disable "One Drive", use your original Windows Product Key or by writing it down and use it again after a complete reinstall of Windows. this will insure all new driers and firmware will be installed. My background is a basic PC technician. I don't write code, make programs or discuss what will be next. I simply do updates when needed or service PC's. And have been at it since IBM 8086 and 8088 motherboards. I just turned 70, love gaming and still enjoy building my own rigs. I also have an ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero with an Intel Core i7 13700K that I will downgrade to a Core i9 12900K, rather than wait for INTEL to fix because frankly INTEL never has fixed their mistakes and never will. They just move on hoping we will forget it!
Im getting similar results of performance loss on a 13700k. 29k-30k pre update and now its about 26k. For me it says its power limited and max P core frequencies are about 4.4-4.5. So im losing like 1 ghz on the high end all core. Not sure if this is normal.
Hi, does this video apply to laptop users that have a 13th and 14th generation processors as well?
I believe intel said it's just the desktop chips, but they also any 13th 14th gen that draw 65w or more
@@Shmoxx. Does that mean that I don't have to download anything if your laptop has an intel 13th and 14th generation? Are you sure there aren't any reported issues related to this?
im on the gigabyte elite ax with 13700k, it drops clocks down, volts are 1.35 and power is still 253,p cores are 4.9-5 and ecores are 3.9-4, insted of 5.3 and 4.2, it loses 2000 points on cinebench r23, its a gigabyte thing, since they started the intel default setting, mines on performance, nothing else touched , dont know why or where the limit is, is there a fix?
just curious, is it posible that ' Windows ' will include these update (for 13th and 14th gen) soon ? I hope Microsoft will give us a hand with this one.
I think windows won't be able to update the microcode as it's in the bios level, only the motherboard can do so.
Спасибо большое за подробный гайд! А потеря FPS в играх сильно упадет после обновления кода?
Thank you.
Very unfair to users who have no idea how to do anything in bios. Brutal Intel!!!
I know but it’s time to learn . Trust me I know cause I went thru it . I read the intel document . I learnt bios setting to a small degree but enough to understand what is what
I don’t overclock
But I posted my setting above
FYI I test warzone , fivem with heavy mods , cyberpunk and have zero crashes or thermal throttling with low temp. Sure performance has a small impact but you’re still at p core performance .
Basically what u found it is the 2 cores that go to 6ghz creates thermal throttling and instability . Basic words here. So I just manually locked my p-cores
"The new BIOS includes Intel microcode 0x129 and adjusts the factory default settings. "for the non-K processors".
It literally tells you this on Asus website, I don't know about any other motherboard websites.
I limited turbo boost on the cpu by about 1.5 GHz, do you think this will prevent the issue? I would undervolt but Lenovo’s latest bios update removed the ability to.
Sorry guys I’m a noob when it comes to pc but after your bios it was at 1.49v? I thought that was bad? Before the update it was 0.9ish. The voltage of the cpu before the bios update at start at the video around 4:58 vs 10:16.
Your right, all above 1.4 is bad for cpu. Dont trust this guy
the reasons for that change is voltage is most likely cuz he had undervolt setting on and when he updated it over run that setting to its default voltage and yest that voltage may be high but for an i9 its actual normal acording to intel "Typically, the maximum Voltage Range for Processor Operating Mode is 1.72V. Your i9-13900k running at 1.412V"
I see. Should I undervolt as well? I have the i7 147090f
@@victor_ylap if u have temps high sure
Are laptop processors also experiencing elevated voltage issues? I have an i5-13420H with max TDP of 45W. Should I be concerned about a microcode update?
No. Laptops have been reported as safe.
@@OrfeasDourvas Ohhh, thanks for the info😮💨
Hi, I have 13600k and get the microcode updated, what should I do next ? should I undervolt or something ?
Is cinebench causing the thermal throttling? Is that detrimental to the cpu. What if I use my computer for cpu rendering of still scenes in corona render for 3ds max. Shoud I wait a week for a newer update. Thanks
What about for laptop? I haven 't experienced any issues yet but I really don't want to.
bro the problem is just for desktop pc's. chill out
how about 14th gen hx series processors???
I second this specific request,
Especial for Intel 14th gen Mobile Laptop CPUs, where is the micro code for that?
Hx not affected . Read intel document for you chipset . Or just RMA
How do I find out what Motherboard I have? When I ordered my PC they made some last second change to it. All I know is that it's not the mainboard it says in the invoice and the communication was a bit confusing.
Your bios should tell you what motherboard you have. Press the "del" key repeatedly after turning on your computer and then study the bios screen for information about your motherboard. Hope this helps.
@@AKITM Yes thank you. It says in the BIOS Screen what model I have. Much appreciated.
It’s NOT a fix; it’s barely a band-aid!
You know you can avoid the issue without the microcode right? Anyone with a chip that hasn't degraded yet can change a few settings in the bios. People that changed these settings on day one don't even need a "fix".
For customers with chips that can't be fixed, they'll get a new chip.
So whether this microcode is a fix or not, is irrelevant. I just bought a 13700k, and have no intentions of even applying it. I might still, but I have no intentions to.
@@DingleBerryschnappsI have been using a fixed vcore for 13900k between 1.25-1.30 since day one pretty much.Do I still need to update the bios to the new microcode you think?
@@pm110978yes. You can still run same voltage but 6ghz voltage requests are lower. I have no performance loss with new Intel defaults/extreme. Set back to 320 pl1pl2 and core at 1.265v. Close to 40k cinebench
Works like a charm for me on rog strix wifi 2
its seems around 50% were affected so yours might not be defective@pm110978
10:15 .....this sh t needs an exorcist !!! Devil I cast you out OF THIS PC !!!
Who said there is no risk or damage over time? Did you have it over time..? Because Intel said so...?
you now have 5 years of warranty. if your chip is crashing now rma it.
@@realrichbunny Intel has been caught refusing valid RMA's, wrongfully claiming Microcenter and Amazon-purchased CPUs are "not genuine" and threatening to destroy any CPU's they receive that they deem "not genuine", with absolutely no recourse for the buyer.
Do NOT trust Intel RMA. They are in cost-cutting mode and they are fucking A LOT of people.
No performance loss on 12th gen with this bios. You must enable Intel POR to get the Inter power limitation for your CPU.
Why do you even care to update bios for 12th gen they are not having any probelm at all
@@tempestblaze6051 It's the same architecture without the excessive voltage request. without this code the current was unlimited, now it's Intel POR and I never have to be concerned about it being a problem or not...
@@Bass.Player voltage requests are the one which are killing cpus. The code has been released and it is performing worst than expected. The idle temps are high for some reason. And the VDD volatages are going above critical limit set by intel.. limit is 1.300 voltage nowthey are going above 1.500 voltage.
@@tempestblaze6051 Absolutely not seeing this on my set up. R23 is exactly the same, temps are the same.
@@Bass.Player i also have i5 13500 i also tested R23/R2024 and my VID max was 1.354 and max temps were 75 degrees. I hope it stays that way i don't this CPU to die.. intel has not even extended the warranty on i5 13500s..i purchased my new PC in 2023 after 2015 and i love it.. it is so good than my older potato.. and now i am afraid it can die any second.. i just hope it does not have the "oxidation" probelm which other 13th and 14th gen CPUs are suffering from they say that they are slowly dying inside due to manufacturing mistakes which resulted in oxidation. Hope uour CPU also survive bro
You would get a higher score with better cooling. My package temp never went above 88c score R23 41495
even after the micro code updated?
Fuck the 13 and 14 series. I just went back to the 12900K. Getting a refund for my 14900KS.
12th gen i9 still the beast
dude i think to buy 12900kf .I just wonder is it really worth it nowdays ?
just happyi never got rid my cpu or upgrade@@Nyxon10
@@Nyxon10 better than 13 and 14th gen
13900k is 25 -45fps faster than 12900k
Anything happened since ? I lost the will to live ... 😂
Im running the 14900k and now getting the the blue screen of death and already tried reformatting and a new install thinking that would of fix the problem so I don’t know if its to late for me also I haven’t tried the new bios update yes i will try this today and let you guys know if it worked for me or already screwed.
If you are experiencing a blue screen, it is because your chip is already damaged. The BIOS update is for those who have not yet experienced a blue screen
You need to tune it buddy. Its not plug and play.
RMA that thing
Why bother buying an unlocked cpu to overclock when you are gimped! 😊. And did you know you can just hold down the delete key to get into the bios? 😂. Try it.😊
I have a Z790- C MOBO, 14700KF cpu. I am a newb, so bear with me.
I am updating today to 0x129.
My CPU gets very hot when playing. Will this help with the temps? I’m talking 80s in Cuberpunk and if I play 4k with even moderate ray tracing it can spike to 90/100c.
Any help would be HUGELY APPRECIATED!!!
Checking my settings posted here you won’t have a problem
Make sure to set your p cores and amps as to your cpu
Just stick with the under-volt gen microcode 0x129 sucks (It cusses thermal throttling). My vid never goes higher than 1.429v under full load. Getting 4004 in Cinebench R23 no thermal throttling. I am using 14900k.
cpu voltage near 1.5 volts, still much too high
Read my settings they are much better
I bought the 13700k, shall I return it and get the 12700k ?
Brother, you are leaving too much performance behind. take my settings and you are safe
only for Gigabyte
Intel Default Disable
Pervdrive: Optimize
Enhanced Multi Core Disable
XMP1
Adaptive Vcore
Offset -0.095 or higher if it works
A400 or lower if you need
Loadline High
AC and DC :45 to 55
IA VR Config Enable
IA VR Voltage Limit 1400
TVB Enable
CEP Enable (If score low set AC DC Higher)
Intel 1.55V max shit performance
My settings Better performance and only 1.4V max
If you want you can also switch to 1.3v but you will lose performance
It depends on silicone lottery, doesn't it? I have a 14900K and haven't installed new uefi/microcode yet, but I have it undervolted -0.1V, it never exceeds 1.31V and still boosts to max clock, because its a good bin.
@@Joh_Lam Yes, but you have to remember that not everyone can run a stable under voltage of 0.1v, so with IA VR Voltage Limit it doesn't matter and everyone can stay under 1.4v or 1.3v. and most of the time you only have the high voltage in single core workloads
@@Joh_Lam and it would be a very very good chip if it had 1.3v at 6Mhz underload. Most are at 1.5v or 1.6 V and that is simply too much
@@onlinegaming4826 Yeah, you are absolutely right. I know this from my own experience. My first 14900k despite undervolting efforts did go to 1.5V+ and it died after 3 months. It had slight stability issues right from the beginning though. The voltage limit is fine, but I am also thinking that maybe during binning of some of the first batches Intel may have made relatively bad silicone become i9, because yield was bad. But that is just me speculating. Anyway, got very quick RMA and the new 14900K is just way better. Big difference from 1.5V to 1.3V.
@@Joh_Lam Yes, it's great if you have such a great 9I. If it's that good, you can set IA VR Volatge Limit of 1.4 and you won't even notice anything and you're safe ;)
And do some benchmarks, you will surely have a very high score Cinebench 23 and 15 also good test for stability especially R15
I do not really understand why some people still think some micro-code fix anything ?? Just simple lock Your cores, lock your voltage and You are done. Video like this make more damage then micro-code itself.Just make video about manual OC/UV and will be better.My opinion.
The microcode changes how much power the CPU will deliver to a core when it is boosting a single core or duel cores, that's why the microcode fixes this issue with only a minor effect on performance.
But if you already disabled single core boosting from the start, then you shouldn't have any issues.
they ruin all
Damnn… updating it made my shit worse now my fans are spazzing
yes cause it resets your bios. you’ll have to redo custom fan curves in the bios
Not a fix at all realy is it?
Is this last bois update from intel
updating to the latest microcode is useless and doesn't get rid of degradation. It just slows it down. My tuned and heavily undervolted 14700K scores 35,700 with a $50 aio
downclock the cpu simple and stop your wineing
Something doesn't look right at all here....on your previous bios and microcode version everything looked like it was idling sweet, namely, 0.984 volts and a temperature of 38.0c. The new bios and microcode update have your volts at 1.491 and temperature at 44.0c. This is insane.
I think you have borked your cpu performance and temperature has improved by exactly zero. If your 13th or 14th gen i9 is performing well I'd stay away from these updates until further information arises and clarifies the situation because at the moment it's as clear as mud.
Your logic is deficient. Some i9 13th and 14th gen cpus were degrading, and therefore, you conclude, ALL 13th and 14th gen i9 cpus are degrading. This is clearly not the case. You may as well argue some humans are 6ft tall, so therefore ALL humans are 6ft tall.
all cpus are affected by this
Yeah……….not a fix………a placebo at best. The CPU is flawed. I’m not performing the update. I’ll wait till it dies and RMA IT.
Turns out it is shit
His guide wasn’t optimized . Ive posted setting for the layman. I haven’t had any heating or crash or any other issues
I think you need a better cooler, something is still not right with your system or your Processor has already been damaged. I have a 13900KS (was lucky and had no issues) and I can run CineBench R23 and get like a 36K+ score and no thermal throttling at all. Also my temps stay in the high 70's to low 80's when running the test in gaming I stay in the low 70's with an occasional spike here and there but never past 85c. I do have a CORSAIR H170i ELITE CAPELLIX XT 420mm AIO however and an MSI MEG ACE Z790 MB and have the cooling tuning set to the new intel default which keeps the PL1 and PL2 at 253W. I could probably push it higher and get a better result but I'm one of those hey if it's working and does what I want it to do then don't mess with it type of guys. I'm also not one of those that has to get every ounce of Ghz out of my CPU. I'm more than satisfied with what I get. I hope your chip has not already been damaged, but I would look further into why your getting those temps and thermal throttling. Good Luck.
same I got a 14900k and its set to 253 watts , CineBench at get about 83-93 degrees max after 5 min. before the CPU used to hit 100c in just a few seconds after the patch and CPU bracket its much cooler , and when I used to sure the web I used to get high temps not anymore
what mhz do you have your cpu lock to?
AMd not better look at zen 5, schedule issues, not booting, memory issues, weird software behavior etc. hello beta testers again, if you buy it you buy problems at the same time.
Dead CPU, RMA as soon as possible. this bios doesn't solve anything
Nah it works . Be patient . If your still thermal throttling behind this point lock p-cores . Check my setting above that needs changing after the update . If still your having issues send it for RMA AS your cup officially degraded