Is the 2023 Dodge Hornet R/T a new performance SUV worth the PRICE?
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- Опубликовано: 21 мар 2023
- FIRST DRIVE: The Hornet R/T is all new from Dodge and brings AWD performance. On the outside you will see a unique Hornet hood with functional heat extractors, 2in wheels, Brembo Brakes and dual outlet exhaust. On the inside you will be greeted by performance leather. Alcantara seats, 12in digital gauge cluster and 10.25in infotainment screen. Under the hood is a 1.3L turbocharged inline-4 pared with an electric motor and e-axle mated to a 6-speed automatic transmission. Is the 2023 Dodge Hornet R/T a new performance SUV worth the PRICE?
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$52000!They are out of their mind.
LOL That seems to be the consensus.
@ E Meyer Completely out of their mind! 😳
Durability ???????
dont worry with high interest rates they will be going for 40
@@alexguolo5872 $15k off and 0% int will be required to move these. Most of these will probably be going to an airport rental lot.
52 large for that? A rebadged Alfo Romeo? No sir.
I've said it before, I'll say it again: Joe and Lori are the best in the biz. Constantly on their grind, making great content that's informative and entertaining. Thank you both for what you do!
I feel your pain David!
I like how they do different trims of cars and not just the highest trim.
Super car blondie does a good job and looks better in a wet t shirt.
@@everettcross7210 she looks like a grandma on age already😂
Over 70k Canadian + tax + warranty + interest ... Things pushing 95k after all said and done 🤡
the disappointment in your eyes when you were driving it LMAO
Dodge is a dead brand walking in 9 months. Blame Stellantis, they want to use a heritage US nameplate to push their tiny European products.
Joe was doing his best to be professional 😂
You know me well Derek.
@@RaitisRides The smile melted off your face about 3 seconds into that powershot launch. I could see you doing the 52k math the whole time you were driving.
Looks like he was almost crying at one point ahahaha
Looks good, but $52k sounds a little crazy. I don’t know how they get that much power out of a tiny 4 cylinder.
Just a suggestion…..when you mention torque numbers, I’m always wondering at what rpm you get that……usually when engine is screaming. Lol Thanks Joe and Lori !
52 is beyond insane for a tiny crossover that can’t outrun Odyssey minivans.
Not being able to outrun a Minivan is crazy 😂😂
It's combined horsepower with the ev. It's nowhere close to those numbers in reality
The torque actually comes in lower because of the two electric motors.
@@RaitisRides makes sense 👍
Even though the 1.3 makes more power, I feel like the 3.6L hybrid would've been a better platform for this vehicle if dodge really needed a car with a hybrid engine. A small 1.3L doesn't really scream "R/T" in my opinion.
That is a very good point!
The 1.3 doesn't make more power. It only does so with the electric motors. Honestly I'm confused why they wouldn't just give it the GT's motor with the Electric motors and actually make a good car.
It's the torque.
This sucks.
@@VanquishedAgain Power is power...doesn't matter how or where it comes from. It also has a shitload more torque which is what actually gets you up to speed, not HP.
They can't offer it in the GT at the $30,000 price tag. That drivetrain has to be pretty expensive right now which is why it's on the R/T and the R/T is so much more expensive. Hopefully as time goes on the tech will get cheaper and they can offer a GT hybrid option.
A million subs…..so close! Y’all have worked your butts off for this! Thanks for the excellent content!!
Thanks for taking the time to say that and for having our backs!
Yeaaaaah, as cool as this CUV looks, $52k is waaaaay too crazy of a price point for what your getting, especially when its hp is less than 300 and it’s competition has more features for less the price. Dodge is gonna miss out with this one.
Thanks for letting me share this one.
Man, there’s a lot of competition at 52g’s.
Big names for sure!
Definitely someone smarter who done their research more would buy a Lexus or BMW SUV over this car.
@@YaretziaGarcia yup, i’d pick an NX any day over this
@@YaretziaGarcia Lexus over a bmw, because of reliability
You are at the door of EVs with that price and those things are faster than this. it isnt even that premium so the Germans, Koreans, and Japanese are going look to me more appealing. Honestly a really tough sell.
Basically a Dodge Dart converted to a CUV.
Exactly what I said in the other Hornet video. I have a feeling its going to flop like the Dart because it seems like they haven't learned anything.
@@Darkvirgo88xx So true, this was the time for Dodge to bring a new design team, seems like they stuck in 2010. Look at this thing, Charger, Durango, they all look like 20 years old. Dodge is only brand that manages to look 5 year old standing new at the dealership.
And we all know what happened to the dart,,,
@@Darkvirgo88xx this is a surrender. This is Dodge giving up the fight against our government. Unfortunately Dodge will be gone in a year or two. Nobody wants this overpriced thing
28% Apr at those Buy here pay here lots!
For 52k I'd much rather get Durango Rt😂 I feel this will go as well as Dart did unfortunately
I doubt you could find a well equipped Durango RT for that price. But. Kona N, fully loaded Edge ST, Mazda CX30 are all (much) cheaper or the same price as this (the edge). The Edge ST also comes with a free track experience that includes hotel and dinner.
It very well may happen.
@Enjoying my Life yea that's about what you can if you can find a dealer with an RT in stock (hardly ever stock them since people don't want to pay the premium). But that's still more than 52k.
@Enjoying my Life almost 60K for an R/T that’s ridiculous bro but hey if it makes u happy to crank it up in the morning then enjoy yourself
Good luck at 52k for that trim. I actually like what they're trying to do but not at that price point.
Yeah it is going to price themselves right out of the segment.
Exactly. 52K?!
And I'll love it 😂😂 let them prices drop like an anchor
@@Macc504 Exactly why I purchased my Giulia lmaoooo
@@e46_nole ugh I wanted one so bad as well 😂 good purchase
Thanks for bring this one - awesome review as we have come to expect.
Good review Joe! The RT is better looking than the GT especially in that red color. However, at 52K they’ll have trouble selling this IMO. With today’s inflated pricing, it seems they should have started under 40K with the RT, let’s say $39,999 and kept the top end at around $45K. No way I’d touch a top end RT over 50K with the many choices in the market. And since it’s a “tweeter” they’re going to compete at the sub and compact levels. Cheers!
These will $15k off before negotiating.
52 MSRP? ....NAH bro. Thanks for the info Raiti but hard pass for me!
Can you imagine paying that for a tiny, rebadged CUV that can’t outrun Japanese minivans. Sad.
I know that feeling!
Great couple of Hornet reviews! You and Lori set the bar for all other RUclips vehicle channels! I don't hate the R/T, it looks the part, but $52k? I paid $45k for my AWD Durango GT. I think the sweet spot for this model is the GT. I'm in the market for something later this year, so I will give this a look.
You got a good deal my wife got a Durango v6 with the black package no GT for like 48 k a year ago
The shift to electric vehicles is the exact reason why I bought a 2021 Challenger T/A 392.
It feels like the dodge demon 170 is the avengers endgame of dodge so everything coming after it feels like marvel movies currently also, I do like the Hornet as an Alfa Romeo, not a dodge
Exactly, Dodge as a Muscle brand is deader than dead, and that’s with the fact they have NO products.
That is a great way to put it!
@@Thurmanatr16 Heck look at Chrysler they have nothing its a wonder they are still around.
As performance as an Odyssey minivan and small like a golf cart. Hard pass, especially at the price.
You are not alone in that thought!
I think it's very good value comparing to the Macan.
@@clearcut6818No, it’s not a good value.
Ill say it again- Asheville! I cant believe it! Im so happy you get can get to enjoy/film some of our roads (not round abouts lol)
The hardest working man in auto reviews.
I appreciate you taking the time to say that!
@@RaitisRides I appreciate the content. I don't know of anyone else that delivers near daily reviews.
Sounds like these engines will be exploding over time.
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Ka-boom
I still can’t get over the fact the Mazda CX-30 Turbo does 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and this Hornet in both trims can’t exceed that? You can get one for the price of the base Hornet (although the CX-30 styling is worse).
You are one of my favorite car reviewers on the Tube, when I want to know something about car models I look for your reviews, you and wifey keep them cominng, great job.
52k? Lol it’s not April 1st yet
You are freaking hilarious!
Go Raiti! Another fun upload! 😎
Thank Albert for letting me share it with you!
Looks cool. Probably reliability nightmare
1.3 producing 290hp. Doesn't sound promising😂
You may be right!
Doesn’t look promising as far as reliability lol
I know its a rebadged Alfa, but I gotta say I do like that this car has the agressive look since it always has been a dodge thing. thanks for this Review Joe
Greetings Joe and Lori from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video looking forward to seeing this crossover here 😮😊
I appreciate you watching from up north Stephen.
Thanks for bring this one - awesome review as we have come to expect. You and Lori are the best on RUclips👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Now, to the vehicle…$50k for a daily grocery getter??? Nah…I would opt for the AR Tonale at that price.
Dodge does need this vehicle (as they needed the K car) and I hope it does well as there is a lot of competition in this segment!
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I love it Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the great work real talk true and I love the video lot real true 👍
Welcome to my beautiful home town Rattis Rides. It's awesome that yall did the press launch here
As an Asheville native, I love seeing these videos from that part of the country! While 52K is a tough pill, the back seat headroom, HP, are great when comparing to others in the class. Nice video!
I absolutely love this area of the country!
I'd rather take the Kona N over this
Trust me so would I!
For the 17k price difference, absolutely.
Don't worry... When Dodge goes under, we will bail them out.
Excellent road. Love the twisties.
Maybe you need a road trip with the CTR back there
You are the best...! all the info we need
@ Raiti's Rides the Tail of the Dragon is one epic drive especially in the fall season!
I love the tail of the dragon!
This is a neat vehicle yes I'm not that thrilled about it but the Hornet should be a performance car in my opinion. The color is very tasteful, the interior is pretty decent with the stitching and looks roomy for its size. Thank you Lori for your hard work as always and Joe with the on throttle action!
Thanks for your great thoughts on this one Bryan!
Awesome video! Lucky I get to make that same drive everyday
Thanks Raiti...
I agree w/ ur suggestions on several parts of where Dodge could have really put a "sting" /stamp on the competition...Like the spoiler + key remote could be just the "HORNET" BADGE on one side & the Dodge symbol on the other side + gear shift n area.(all carbon fiber perhaps.. + the engine cover.. definitely, all carbon fiber + gas pedal (all of the same indeed)..for all the $$$ Dodge could have put all competition "on NOTICE" but they slacked off in certain areas..
can't wait for the next review!!! 🤗
"wonderful job Lori" keep it coming.
Dodge has lost their minds 52k. They can charge for the scat-packs, hell cats, and the Cummins. But these mini suv's are priced to sit.
Awesome video Sir. I said it on the last couple videos, these prices are TGH in the words of Flossy Carter.
That’s more than half of $100k is how I look at it.
You are so very right with that.
People are always complaining about price. $52k is the all in price here. Most people will buy the GT at a lower starting price and many of those won't click every box. The average price will be more like $40k.
No one cares about the price anymore. They will just finance this over 84 months and pay 18 grand in interest. But hey, at least the payment will be under $600!! (Sarcasm)
I've been waiting for this. Thanks, Joe .
I like that you said MSRP and the one you have specd. Good review
Should have kept it in the 40s for this particular model. At 52k im looking at Supras and Scatpacks
Exactly right, esp low mileage 2018-2020 scats that are all over the used car pages.
Good call on that.
This is so very true!
@@Thurmanatr16 you can get a brand new base (bad interior) Scat for 52k.
I love the food shoutouts, making me hungry 🤣
Thanks for letting me share it all with you!
I’d go with the Model Y Performance at $49k with a 3.5 second 0 to 60.
If it’s not a Ram, or a muscle car, it’s something about Dodge that screams I will not last long 😕
I think you may be right!
The GT will be the volume selling vehicle...270hp and 289lb ft of torque....AWD with a beautiful interior for around $35-$36,000....
Yup.
I really wish they would have gone with the manual hand break. I really miss that and im not a huge fan of the electric e-brake.
Great review & reviewer with tons of charisma!
It looks pretty good in red, I like the blue and orange too.
Joe, this car is nice! I love the dodge logo on the front too
I am glad that you are digging this one.
We're going from the demon 170 to this?!
Paging Porsche, we need a gt2 rs, immediately!
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Tell me about it!
Ironically, around 10:00 mark, during your drive by shots, it sounded like a bee 🐝 😅👌👌👌💪💯
Good video Man
52k? These would probably sell if they were 40k max
Doesn’t look like you were too thrilled with the on throttle performance lol 😅
Great video .
Just Leased one. Love it so far! 😄
Ist worth the money ldont think so for compact SUV from Dodge I'll go stinger gt 2 for this kind of money even do it's not SUV .
That would be really a great way to go!
They don't make the Stinger gt anymore
I feel like dodge doesn’t know what to do with engines/performance if it isn’t a Hemi…
I think you may be right!
This is good stuff!
Dude you’re so close to my city of Charlotte!!! That’s so dope. Hate this car 😆😆 love Raiti’s Ride
It is a small world! Thanks for being so supportive!
im glad to see liquid death getting some deserved attention
It's good stuff for sure!
So right around 52k…. Other cars that around around this price is Hyundai Palisade Calligraphy, Kia Telluride X-Pro, and Tlx type S…. Just to name a few.. I get that it’s more expensive because of the electric motor but still.. it’s ridiculously priced compared to what you can get for the same price.
Things are getting crazy for sure!
The honda Prologue is around the 40k mark as well.
im not gonna spend my hard earn money on a 1.3L turbo i4. As usual, Joe and Lori you guys are awesome👌🏼 Keep ‘em coming🎬🎥✨
my dumb ass was like "Hornet R/T ??? how the f*ck did they put a 5.7 in there" and then i heard "1.3 liter engine...." 💀
Just curious, lets say the battery is empty on Monday and you don't have time to charge it at a lot until the end of the week, you would just drive it like a normal car until the end of the week and it will be fine?
Will it still have AWD if you deplete the battery? Do you lose AWD if it needs to charge?
It's simple. I see Joe, I press like.
Honestly I think 52k is a bit much, I think 45k should have been the fully loaded price. I don't really like it but I am also not in the market for an SUV. Great video nonetheless, big thumbs up from me for another great upload.
Thanks for tuning in and letting me share it all with you!
Yeah 52K is egregious… 45K TOPS.
45 is way too much. I purchased a brand new charger scat pack for 40 in 2019, and I mean brand new It had 4 miles on it. I was the only man to drive it. This thing should be 32,000 if that maybe more like 30,000.
Nice color
Yeah, Hot Tamale lives up to it's name.
Great stuff Joe! I’d love to see the GT. I don’t need a plugin. The problem for me is that Stellantis Group is eating their own. Who would want a Stelvio now with the garbage infotainment system? Thanks for bringing it to us.
$52,000! That's a lot money considering the drivetrain complication, the weight, reliability record of Dodge/Alfa and not quite looking like an upscale 52 grand vehicle. As one example, for that same price you can get a Genesis GV70 2.0T AWD with the Advanced package. A little less weight, less complicated drivetrain, better 8 speed automatic, a more upscale fit, finish and looks IMO, a bit larger inside with a better warranty. The few mpg's and 10ths of second gained in the Hornet just doesn't outweigh the many advantages of the Genesis. The Hornet does seem a little more sporty but how often is someone going to drive their car at the limit? For 5 grand less the Hornet could be a winner.
Cool car but 52k is tough. You could easily get a Q5 for that for example
Would be interesting to see a addition of a sunroof and consideration of making a SRT4 version.
Now we are talking!
Wait. It doesn't have a sunroof?
The GT Plus has sunroof according to the online configurator. Not sure why Dodge would send the top trim tester without sunroof.
It'll have a GHL version if it sales well.
@Vanquished he's driving a tester model the ones at the dealership will have or if ordered be able to add a sunroof.
This car is right up there with the AMC PACER X, and the Chevy Citation X11. I'm impressed that it can tow 2000lbs, but it can probably only do it for 15 miles,. I'm not sure of the practicality of it. It also appears to have plenty of headroom for the folks who enjoy driving and wearing a fedora simultaneously. The engineers have outdone themselves. Fantastic. The exhaust sound leaves me absolutely speechless. It is like a mixture of hissing and gurgling. I might buy one of these when they get released, but for $50,000 I could buy 7000 exciting 100% electric toasters from Target or 20 electric bicycles. I'm not sure what would be the best purchase, but I predict the Hornet will depreciate faster than the toasters or bikes.
Wow...the Citation X11. Dang.
I forgot about that one!!! 😂
Joe is it me or is it a dead ringer for a Alfa Romero Tonale? Great review ! Wait what, no zonk on the rear wiper? You doin ok Joe? Cheers Kirk
No it is not you Kirk!
Great review as always, Joe. I've been wanting a Dodge Durango, but after I saw the Hornet GT review, I have been debating between the two. Between the two Hornets, it's the GT for me. Probably in that blue color, although the Red looks really good! I wonder how much difference you felt between that RT and the GT. If this message finds you, please comment and let me know if the handling was that much of a noticeable difference. Thanks!
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Great Job filming Lori and I hope I spelled your name correctly. Best real vehicle reviews on RUclips! My best.
You would actually buy this turd?
@@OnePride313 The GT model,,, yep I sure would. Let me guess. You wouldn't. Lol. Yeah the GT in Blue hell yeah I would and may. Either the GT Hornet or a GT Durango. I like the performance that the Hornet has. I think you got it wrong my man. Not everyone has the same ideal you have. Try and cheer up. It will help your choice of words in the English vocab. I'm certain though I'm not the only one that thinks the Hornet to perform as well as it looks. I just prefer the Non EV GT and that's why I asked Joe if the GT gasoline Hornet non EV had similar performance. Stay positive brother.
@@TheDiveWatcher the hornet looks like shit and a 1.3 baby 4 cylinder punishing that much power will be doomed to a short life span and will live in the shop. I hope you buy one for that 50+ thousand garbage not will be worth like 15 k in 2 years.
@@TheDiveWatcher people like you ruin the car market buying crap like this for 50k.
@lets go pistons !!
Can you name a better looking cuv in the segment? I'll be waiting awhile cuz there isn't anything better looking. Wait a year, pick it up for 40k and you have a great dailey driver.
I can't for go for that 🎵......No can do
I am right there with you!
Joe,
I believe that’s a Alfa Romeo Tonale
Hornet is sitting on a Alfa Romeo platform and probably built in Italy
I have to say it does look pretty cool
It's shameful how these car manufacturers continue to rebadge models. Especially after the 2009 car bailouts, where they promised to "straighten" out their branding strategy.
Great review as usual, but i really don't get what Stellantis is doing. The hornet is the Alpha Romeo Tonale with a different skin and the prices are about a10k difference depending on the model. So is this like the reverse of what Honda does with Acura and Toyota with Lexus. A budget version of the luxury line, if so its really stupid, or I'm just mad because they stop making Chargers and Challengers for this crap.😭
You are on the mark, exactly correct, Dodge is going to be Alfa US unfortunately.
They seem to be really confused.
52k lol!!! That’s insane money this is a 45k vehicle at best wow
I agree with you 100%
@@RaitisRides thank you my pAisan buddy how are you doing
What trims are hybrid? Is it just the R/T or all the trims?
Does the Hornet have an option for a hitch in order to add a bike rack or a small trailer?
Car prices have gone insane. Way out of my price range.
For $52k I’d rather have a BMW X1 🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
I can totally understand where you are coming from.
It’s a small Italian CUV with a Charger front end. You can get a larger AWD 2.0 Escape weighing 600 lbs. less with almost the same 0-60 numbers and save thousands. I’ll put 50k towards a Passport or something with real cargo space.
Does it come with ventilated seats like the Alfa Romeo Tonale is supposed to have?
Yes but not with the performance seats.
Just imagine if this was a supercharged 6.2L V8 😳😳
Yeah right! LOL
1.3 L engine sounds really tinny for 280hp turbo. How long do you think that would last?
That is the million dollar question!
Half of it is probably coming from the electric motors.
the 1,3 L engine alone does not produce 280 hp, rather 177hp. With the assistance of the electric motor then you have around 288 horsepower. Mr Raiti"s should know better or maybe he himself is not aware of that. Anyway, i have had in the past a few turbo engines from Chrysler ( 2,2 l ) and never had any issue with those, I even modified one with cold intake filter, headers, intercooler, exhaust and with all the added power, my little 2,2 L never experienced any single issue, very reliable. So again the 1.3L engine alone does not develop 280 horsepower. Never believe without verifying what these people evaluating cars say. A few times they are completely wrong with their numbers and specifications
Can’t wait for you to do the review on the “GLH”
Neither can I!
Word to the media, there's more to being a car guy than just a set car keys and a driver's license.
Dodge lost their mind with the price. 52k can buy me a 2018 hellcat that’s probably not clapped out
It's a PHEV
@@clearcut6818 just another reason not to buy it
The interior is on point. Drivability day to day is very good. I think many people will like it
I don’t have any friends either 😂❤. Like the style of this Hornet 🐝
I like this suv joe the price point is eeehhhhhhh for me at least,but thank you for this Raiti’s rides!😊 can’t wait for the media of the gmc hummer ev suv tomorrow!
It is kind of nuts!
R/T a little pricey. I want to really see what the GLH Package offers. I would either buy GT Plus or GLH.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective on this one.
@@RaitisRides Have you heard anything on GLH Model. Can’t really find much on it.
I don’t mind it at all, looks good to me.
I am glad that you are digging this one.
@@RaitisRides Yessir thank you.
I love the style of the Hornet. Joe, do they make a totally non electric base (affordable) model?
Yes they do, just ordered mine. It’s 38k after the add ons
@@scottsheeron1214 ...NICE !!
I watch a lot of RUclips and I’m more floored about the amount of ads in this video. Like damn!