unplugging a running SSD, then quickly re-plugging it back in!
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"Don't unplug your ssd"
Well there goes my weekend plans out the window
Ik same😢😢😢😭😭😭
I did that when I was bored and windows corrupted
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Try to enable Hot-Plug in the BIOS for the specific SATA Port the SSD is connected to. But be aware, not all Mainboards / SATA Controllers have support for Hout-Plug
No, sorry for a BOOT Drive this is aways a moronic thing to do. Your boot drive is constantly reading and writing and yanking the SSD is never good for the drive. Corruptions is likely and cold make it unbootable.
@@michaelcloutier2225 of course it's a bad thing to do with a boot drive. That's why he only uses a non production / test system for these experiments
@@michaelcloutier2225 NGL I think you're the most moronic one here for thinking that others are going to do this
@hollownexus9316 well, you haven't seen what crazy stuff I do while bored. One time destroyed a hard-drive to the point where you couldn't even boot off a usb
Won't work. Removing the OS the drive is on is always a bad idea, regardless if Hotplug is on or not. Hotplug is for secondary drives or "storage drives".
It is most likely due to initialisation from the bios.
When you unplug the SSD, it disappears from the view of the computer. But when you plug it back in, since it hasn't been initialised by the bios, the computer still can't see it so it behaves as if it was still unplugged.
At least that's what I think is going on here
There are hotswappable ones but they usually aren't used by the OS.
@250CC The noise HDDs make when you cut the power is the arm resetting and the platters slowing down, HDDs have a sort of emergency brake built in when the power cuts, so the platters don't get damaged by the arm
I suspect it is because of the drives. When you plug in a drive the os reads the mbr or gpt to find out what the partition are and where they start and where they end. Each partition has a uuid identiting it. Windows is almost not expecting the drive to suddenly disappear so it may be mounting the drive as a letter other than c causing it to crash.
Interesting it may not be an issue in linux because you can assign a partition uuid to a mount point so it would always get mounted in the right place.
I thought I was the only one who noticed that!
So basically, this would only happen to OS/Boot drives. Secondary storage should be fine, right?
@@Vladiator Yes. Because it is plugged into USB (most of the time), means that it is hot-swappable.
When I attempted this a few years ago it actually mounted the drive as a different drive and made the sound xD
could be a hot swappable drive
That only works if the motherboard supports hotswap
The background music tho
Looking at my GBA in the corner
Nostalgia fr
Instructions unclear, I accidentally unplugged my life support
Try using a HDD, I’ve accidentally unplugged the main HDD on a computer while working on it and immediately plugged it back in within like 1-2s and it never crashed and acted like nothing even happened
It must be an enterprise hdd
She was to slow to relise it had been unpligged
Boy aren't you just show us our biggest nightmare
@@drushed7387 prob was
How long ago was this with what operating system?
I once tried this with an HDD. Unplugged it, left it for like a minute, of course nothing worked but it didn’t crash, then replugged it and it just worked fine, no reboot, no crashes.
Unplugging and plugging back in will never work. Once you plug it back in any requests to access the data in the SSD will be invalid since a new mapping is needed between the data that is read into the ram and the data that is in the SSD. What might end up happening is blocks like instructions that were previously read into your memory will be read back in again and executed which means you will do something like load the OS again.
unless it's hot swap, but that ain't working for end-user desktops for the main disk
Nonsense explanation. Real reason is that the device drivers in that consumer OS refuse to reinitialize the SATA protocol and associate the rebooted drive with the existing device object, thus triggering a kernel panic when the cache needs to talk to the drive again.
Dude the music is an old school throwback vibe
By specifications, SATA disk's must support hot plugging. However, it is up to the BIOS and the OS on how to handle a suddenly removed disk, and doing so may result in data loss (i.e. those still not written to disk due to caching). It is obviously impossible to remove a system disk without causing a BSOD - Windows is keep reading data or DLLs from it.
You need to turn on hotplug SATA in the motherboard bios to do this safely. Still removing the OS drive for even a second will likely always cause crashes.
If I'm incorrect the reason why is cuz when it gets unplugged it gets unmounted from your system but plugging it back in doesn't Mount it automatically because the system has no way to handle it seeing as it's mounting system was stored on the hard drive.
I’ve hotplugged SATA drives before. Granted, they weren’t my current boot drive and I did power them down so they were completely safe to remove and I was able to connect a different drive without any problem.
I also run Linux on my main machine. Not sure if this would make a difference but I think it might because Linux handles devices differently
I imagine it’s like letting air into a water line, it might not break immediately but once that gap reaches the thing that needs there to not be a gap, it gives out.
I almost fell out of my bed when I saw him putting the SSD onto the motherboard, I mean it touched the PCB😬
Ah men this music heard after years, so peaceful
*Thank you. This worked for me. I thought my Samsung 4TB was done for since nothing was showing up even after plugging it in and trying different cables. But somehow this worked.*
Adds a whole new meaning to the term hot swap. lol
On Linux it does work, it freezes when you unplug it but when you plug it back it works perfectly
you can do that on Unix systems usually, as long as you remount the SSD after you plug it back in (just run mount -a)
makes sense, it has to reinitialize which only happens at boot
I hope you have hotplug enabled in bios I mean you could really damage shit without it on or at least I think you could. I also turn Hotplug on so I can swap drives around while in Windows.
I did the same experiment 20 years ago with mechanical discs.
Yes, a lot of free time back then... 😋
If you place Window$ on a USB it actually is able to remount its C drive if you un- and replug the drive, it only locks up when needing new data and unfreezes as soon as access to the storage has been restored.
I'm currently working on a way for Linux to be able to do that too.
Windows To Go?
"Moral of the story: don't unplug your SSD at all"
Me: Understood.
My laptop: Unplug the SSD? Ok *unplugs it itself*
Littletown music got me nostalgic
The problem is file handles, basically the way in which a program maintains access to a file, i can't really tell you deeper than that because i don't really understand it that much
That litterloot town remix is fire.
if you put your boot partition on a different drive (i dont know if you can do this on windows, but you can on linux) and you replug your main drive with the root partition, it might work better than having both of those partitions in the same drive. but i don't have a spare computer to test this on.
It is a known I/O error that Windows has. After repluging in the ssd, a large number of jobs that are being held on I/O will receive partial or null data. This will often include os integral reads and will almost 100% of the time cause a crash. I may be wrong about this but if your operating system is on a separate drive you are possibly able to pull an ssd out in the way shown but I couldn't find anything to confirm or deny this as far as POSIX compliment operating systems go. The more you know :)
What you are planning to do is what we call hot swapping, some motherboards and all server related hardware can do hotswapping (though some you need to enable it in the bios)
This reminds me of the ps2, for those of you who don't know on the ps2 if you pressed the eject disc tray button and took out the disc mid game you could still play the game and it wouldn't crash at all idk why this happened but I did this once for some random reason
this is also safe to do, it wont damage your pc unless you dont have hot swap sata
My own 16 bit os would still work cus it loads everything in ram, my game loads all textures at start, sad that the game is not made for the OS, would be funny unplugging the drive and still run
i remember once taking out my hdd from my hp ProBook 6360b in 2017 and it did not blue screen but instead just signed out and then when I plugged my hdd back in it took like 10 mins but it came back to life and it worked as fine
Did you enable hot swapping in bio
I was so lost into the background music I had to re-watch the thing to realise it was about SSDs.
It's kind of like cartridge tilting back in the N64 days. But with the GameCube you could take out the desk and play a whole level up until the next part of it loaded sometimes too at least an animal crossing.
You need to enable sata hot plug in the bios for that to work
"Wow! WOW! What useful information guys! Just dont unplug your SSD your fucking redart" - Drew Allan Freeman
Honestly, if someone unplugged my SSD and replugged the same one I thought was still plugged in, I'd probably crash as well 😂
I love Linux for this. I've unplugged SSD multiple times, didn't restart it, and used it for a few hours
Without explanation is not right, it's left.
Try to put the computer in sleep, unplug the ssd, put in another one with the same data, then turn it back on. I tried that when I had one hard drive and the other had slightly more data but had a corrupted boot entry and for some reason I could use the computer for 5 min before it froze.
this may a factor
DRAMless PCIE SSDs can use the system's RAM to for cache.
SATA dosent have this feature, even for the DRAMless ones.
it probably won't crash the PC if the data is cached in RAM
but if the SSD has any form of caching, this can cause the BSOD during data access.
This is just my guess
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The problem is that it's a serial protocol and you're interrupting it in the middle of some byte being sent at an undeterminable position. The data it gets back is totally and completely incomprehensible as a result, no matter what the drive sends back, because the serial clocks are out of sync.
Iirc some Mainboards allow for hot swappable storage that should in theory fix the issue. Else if you just add a harddrive it won't be recognized by the system and, as we've seen, crash.
Enable hotswap on the sata ports then you can use it after a FAST replug
Thanks my curiosity has been answered
Try setting it up as a Windows To Go drive. They are much more resiliant to crashes from accidental unplugging.
The fact that it is SATA instead of USB may cause problems tho.
there is a thing called sata hotplug. That should work except maybe for the system drive
Ngl this guys has the same things I always wondered ty for doing rare things
I could tell it would crash regardless simply because I've seen from previous videos that plugging in the SSD while the PC is running will result in it not being registered by the computer.
I’ll keep this in mind while I’m messing with my open laptop while playing Minecraft
AHCI is making the OS dismount the drive when you unplug it. It will be fine is it were not the system drive.
*asus hot plug gang*
"hold on, let me plug in my other SSD"
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I'm using linux and I can unplug my hdd/ssd, get a cup of coffee, then plug it in and everything will work as it worked before unpluging.
I love studying computer engineering because I know exactly why this happens.
Try it with device manager opened and refresh device after you replug the ssd
yes
So this is basically what happens with my new laptop, they put thermal pads that were too big under the m.2 when it already had a heatsink and just the small amount of time I've used it, the heat has warped it and made it unstable.
Note that linux will keep functioning, due to a feature called "hot swapping" and linux being simpler with their filesystem, it can recover of its own. If it will, no one knows.
Hotswapping is supported and present in both modern Linux and Windows kernels with bios/uefi. To enable it it’s a bios option, not necessarily operating system specific.
@@King-Julien I wont recommend using it though, too much can go wrong ngl
I think it could work on some MSI motherboards because they have an option to hot swap SATA devices (so it acts like a USB)
You can do something similar with mountvol c: /d and it won't bsod but that doesn't solve anything
Probably the SSD tries to send his info to the motherboard making Windows go in a crysis, maybe with a hdd It can work
It would be less likely to crash if it didn't have the page file enabled on that drive or disabled completely. It basically kicked virtual memory when disconnected resulting in memory corruption.
You need to enable sata hotplug in bios first
someone's playing a game of life and death with that 120GB SSD...
Bro chopped off and reattached the PCs Testicles ☠️
This guy's out here just experimenting with people's intrusive thoughts.
If you have fast enough laptop and ssd in laptop, when you unplug it you replug it in and it will work just fine
But change your SSDs SATA port to hot plug in and it might not crash at all
@mryeester
first off that looks like a dell optiplex
windows crashed because the drive was lost and because windows always has files open and active (for example: log files that get written to or the virtual memory). These open files are called handles and the amount open can be found in task manager. Due to the expectation that the C drive (the host drive by which the OS lives on) would not be removed during use the OS doesnt know how to handle what just happened and cannot figure out how to continue with only what it has on ram as it doesnt know how to work with the drive again.
I don't think that's why
peripherals need to be reinitialized
I don't know if Windows keeps the features for that resident in memory or tries to load it from a file, if it's the second it'll fail
I unplug my SSD all the time with no problems!
...after safely disconnecting the USB dock it's in 😂
Sorta reminds me of the old Stop N’ Swap from the old BK days
no matter how much ram you put into a computer
windows will always do something on the drive, in this case most likely the page file.
Dont do that, if your device not prepared as pluggable and not disconnected from operation system. I destoyed my first hdd,same case, but accidentally. It was 600 mb seagate.
Sata isnt “plug and play” interface… thats why
enable hotswap in bios , but i think since it's the boot drive it's not intended for this use.
Guys it only effects ssd, hdd is completely fine, trust me
you can run without bluescreen, jest unplug the SATA and plug it. working normal :)
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It can be probably mitigated by using hot-swap feature of the motheboard, hdd and os(each, apart from hdd, should be enabled separately)
Nerd
What if you try to write data to it, but unplug it while it's running? Or plug in another SSD after you unplug the first?
Oh thank you u was just gonna unpung my ssd from my running pc
When a drive is unplugged, all descriptors are invalidated and the data link itself is severed. When you replug the drive, literally nothing useful happens, as the data link has to be re-trained on system initialization and OS has to establish new descriptors on its load.
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my computer crashes just at the same millisecond when i disconnect the data cable lol
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Lol, try it on the 1.5 tb ram iMac pro
i was playing need for speed underground for almost 20 mins without an ssd with 16gb ram
With the multiple external discs i have used that occasionally disconnect(i have had that happen WAYY TOO MANY times) and i know all too well that,nope replugging won't do shit to stop it crashing
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I unplugged the ssd from laptop. Same error I got and now windows has started but windows is software running ver slow and laptop hangs many times.I don't have hdd in my laptop, only ssd is there. Can you please help me to resolve it