YES FINALLY someone who hasn’t fallen for the Shauna Shipman propaganda and actually understands Jackie. I’m literally in the TRENCHES trying to defend my girl in the Yellowjackets subreddit.
people forget that you can like Shauna and find her interesting while also knowing that she didn't communicate with Jackie enough prior and treated her badly in that fight scene.
Jackie, for all she loves to believe she's capable of reading Shauna's mind, is not a mind reader. Shauna's own inability to share her emotions leds to frustration and eventually anger and resentment, so she directs all of it at Jackie, because for Shauna it is easier to pin the fault on Jackie, than having to confront the fact that shes created a version of her (homoerotic) best friend that justifies said feelings of anger, instead of realising this is a case of bad communication. Being a good writer does not necessarily makes you a good communicator, Shauna!!!!
Maybe it's because I'm 40 watching yellowjackets but I feel like a lot of you are too young or weren't born in the 90s to understand Ben's character and story. First, Ben did take charge of a lot of things in season one, he was the one to teach them hunting and how to take apart an animal. He literally countered Travis sexism on multiple accounts. You couldn't be openly gay in the 90s, Ben would've gotten fired and made a pariah! Y'all aren't understanding that he was upset over his leg because that effects how he would be viewed in both the LGBT community and the world he's still closeted in. He could have also been an athlete and soccer player too. The reason the scene with Paul is important is because he didn't have to make the trip and was thinking about coming out even if it meant ending his school career. Also being a health teacher in the 90s didn't mean you'd know anything about giving birth. A lot of schools didn't have trained professionals (like nurses etc) teaching that class until the 2000s..so yeah I didn't think a gay man would've been any help, especially if he is also going thru mental issues.
I didn’t read all of this lol, but as soon as I saw you were defending him I likes the comment. Because I think the Yellowjackets get excused for things that Ben gets hated for. Like you cannot tell me adult Shauna would take charge in a pregnancy situation like in the teen timeline.
I was born 2002 and I completely understood his struggle. And I know how little we learn about health care in school. Like I live in Germany and I think we are more progressive than 90s America but like it's not like Birth is a big topic in health class. I really love all the characters because they are so fascinating but I hope Ben will make it out alive. He is the only sane person left
I think coach Ben is a very complex character, I do agree that he is an adult man, but he was out numbered, and also his depression increased, what was he supposed to do in the wilderness with one leg, and also cannibalistic teenage girls? He was just supposed to tell them to stop? They’d ice him out just like they did Jackie or kill him, I know they aren’t mature, but are you telling yourself that you as a grown person with ONE leg, actively try an intervene against 15+ girls who are athletic and have adapted to murder?
@@carat_light bro returns from the wilderness and spends the rest of his life struggling with ptsd and addiction before accidentally killing himself. posterchild of 'it never gets better'
We try to give Coach Ben some grace, I mean dude witnessed the soccer team he coaches eat someone 😭he just wants to be home with his man. We definitely see how Jackie is misunderstood, she was chosen as team captain for a reason, though arguably Taissa is better suited for that role. But Jackie’s ability to keep the team united is her strong suit. She knows how to lighten the mood even while stranded in the wilderness. Teen Taissa is elite and a badass! Misty is unhinged in every timeline, but gotta love Christina Ricci’s portrayal!!
Ben is abetter person than Travis. Travis doesnt care his dad is missing, his brother is suffering, slut shames Nat... and you sorry for him? While Ben was ostracized by the group since the night Jackie slept outside, and when they realize they need him, he's obligated to do something? I'm sorry for Ben.
There’s this thing that Shauna does sooo many times even as a grown up she throws a pity party by mentioning her traumas or having a side character do that for her… but like no if you’re gonna do horrible things you bet your ass it’s gonna be held against you. I need the Jackie supporters to stand up
So glad somebody actually understands half of the characters. Way too many people were way too quick to hate on Jackie when really it was all just a lack of communication. Can’t wait for season 3. Definitely subbing so i can come back!
god I know right Jackie was genuinely one of the best characters. shauna hater till the day i die fr, she was such a shitty friend and then proceeded to whine throughout like MA'AM ATLEAST DO EVIL WELL
Im so sick and tired of the Ben slander. Like if you don’t like him you are blinded by the main characters. Because he was in the same situation the girls were. He had no experience with pregnancy. He was just a coach and they stuck him in a random position, like schools normally do. There was no way for him to help, and if that is your only problem with him it’s insane to want him to die. All of the girls in the show have MANY flaws and we are all so quick to forgive them. I just don’t see a valid reason to hate Ben…
dawg the problem isn’t that ben didn’t know what to do its that he left the TEENAGE GIRLS with even LESS experience than him to handle the traumatic situation instead of standing tf up. no one in that cabin had any experience, they were all young and horrified, and the ONLY adult there chose to stick his head in the sand. FUCK HIM for leaving them to deal with that. they all had to face it, they all stayed to support their friend, which you seem to forget. a bunch of teenage girls could go what a grown ass man was too scared to face. i mean seriously.
@@whispers342The grown ass man was starving and had to watch his students tear up the body of their teammate like animals. He also lost his leg which is extremely traumatic and normally comes with phantom pain because the victims are not able to cope with the loss of their leg. He tried to be the reasonable person but they did not respect him anymore as an authority. He also was sexually assaulted by one of his students and literally poisoned by her just because he did not give her the attention and love she wanted. Also they just straight up let a child drown so they can eat his flesh. Bro is an adult and teacher but literally no life experience can prepare you for this shit.
@ the teenage girls were starving. van got mauled by wolves, tai has a horrifying sleepwalking disorder that she doesn’t understand. lottie is dealing with unmedicated schizophrenia. shauna is GIVING BIRTH. i really don’t see how ben going through something traumatic is anything less than the girls individual struggles who DID stay and DID help. they ASKED for his help, begged for it, for his “authority” in that situation and he turned it down. EVERYONE in that room suffered immense trauma, but they stayed, what is ben’s excuse? i mean seriously? what world are you living in where what ben went through is any worse than what everyone else had going on? so he had to watch them eat jackie,tai unwillingly ATE jackie in her fugue state, and she stayed! come on also javi died after this situation so idk what that has to do with him not helping shauna
@whispers342 I never said that what he experienced was worse than the others. But he was always an outsider of the group and in this moment when they needed him on the brink of starvation due to missing out on feasting on Jackie. He was mentally not even there and dissociating extremely. The point is to show how like Jackie Ben also became an outsider and distanced himself from the group and their cult like behaviors. Literally nothing would've even changed if he would've "helped". He had zero knowledge like the rest of the girls LIKE HE SAID. They were very aggressive towards him before it like Mari just saying that he ate their food and that judging him for not participating in eating Jackie. Literally compared to the others he did nothing wrong to get this extreme hate. Like you said everyone is suffering and everyone is behaving in the way they are capable of. But since the group was starting to become a cult everyone who was different was seen as a problem (Jacke refusing to say blessing during her final meal). Also just because he is grown up doesn't mean anything in a crisis because nobody is prepared for this. Without him they never would've learned to hunt. And I think him being an adult actually was more of a problem because he knows how fucked up this whole mess is and he can not easily just loose his morality and society norms.
The only moment with Jackie for “mean girl” is when adding drama to travis and Natalie but that pretty much it that doesn’t make her a full mean girl tho
Also she literally wasn't doing it on purpose. She did not know that Natalie lied to Travis and wanted to compliment him for being more decent than the guys she hooked up with and had a bad experience with. I am sure she didn't even know that the one was Travis' Bully
@@Eclipses915 Yeah I really don't understand where this "Mean Girl" narrative is coming from? She literally complimented everyone in the first episode and they were earnest components from her
@@Isabelle-hv6nyok but did she truly compliment everyone? She compliments everyone BUT Shawna. She first says all the things wrong with Shawna and the “compliment” she gives her is really about herself. What Shawna brings to her life in relation to Jackie. Everyone else gets a straight compliment about what makes them great but Shawna’s only value to Jackie as a person is what she brings to Jackie’s life. It is still all about Jackie.
Teen and Adult Misty are both elite employees to me. She is batshit insane and does so many psycho things so I get why you put her in “why do you do the things you do” but like. I’m sorry she is so fun to watch. Literally my favourite character. MVP of every episode to see what scheme she’s gonna come up with next.
AH I love the longer videos, your explanations of the characters are soooo good and your voice is so calming to me. Can't wait for more videos with season 3 coming out :)
I never understood snyone who hates Jackie or think of her as a mean girl. The main mean girls are Van, Ty, Shauna, Lottie. Why is Jackie not a mean girl? #1 Jackie offered the last food she had to shauna. #2 shes considerate she remembered to bring Shauna medicine for the flight. #3 she gave her a beautiful gold necklace. Most of all any friend who is willing to starve themselves out to feed you is a friend that will give you their life.
how are van and lottie mean girls though? van was rightfully upset at jackie because she left her to die, and then jackie got upset bc they wanted to use her skincare product as a disinfectant. and i love jackie a lot more than van, but you'd be upset at jackie too if you were her.
Totally agree with you on Misty. Teenage Misty annoys the shit out of me, but I love adult Misty. Yes, she's a sociopath, but the way she fully embraces it is hilarious.
That's a really good point with Jackie because she didn't have any sort of concept of who she was! Like even their coach was trying to put her in a leadership role & it's like girl you don't have to be that if you don't want too!
Making the bottom category "I hope you pull the queen card" is hilarious lol. I've never seen you on tiktok, but now I need to go watch your other videos. Happy this one randomly came up on my feed
I’m an ardent believer that if Misty was popular, she’d probably still be the same, just more polished. I imagine something like Elle Fanning in The Girl from Plainville.
Way too many people are falling into the trap of favoring the leads because they are the leads. Tai broke her teammates leg so they would win a soccer game. Shauna was sleeping with her best friends boyfriend, and Lottie absolutely knew the influence she began to have on them after the crash. None of them would have made it thus far without the help and knowledge of Coach Ben. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Was he out shaking his titties at the moon in the name of The Wilderness and eating the team? No, that was your elite group. They all made mistakes. But everyone seems to dismiss the ladies simply because the writers gave them other likable traits.
I don't think Jackie was the worst I think her and Shauna both have their issues, but I definitely get some mean girl vibes from Jackie. She literally slutshamed Nat when they didn't have food even though that was equally Travis's fault and then she went and got with him
tbh shauna did some crappy things, and shes def not my favorite character, but i dont think i could ever hate her, no matter how annoying she gets. im def a Jackie lover for life
This made me say “the kids are gonna be alright” like an absolute cringer. Godly tier list, every single thing you said was incredibly based and well-articulated.
SHE'S INNOCENT KAITLYN ITS NOT HER FAULT. NAT DIED PROTECTING HER BECAUSE SHE SAW SO MUCH OF HER YOUNGER SELF IN LISA PLEEEEASE KAITLYN. (I swear idc that much)
I like Walter, but only through Misty. I like their relationship and I’m excited to see where it goes, even though I don’t really trust him yet either.
Jackie lost me when she wanted to leave Van to die without a thought. Then was going to say that the sanitizer or whatever was hers..."hey, that's mine" she was obviously about to say before realizing it was Van suggesting it. While coach Scott was bleeding out. Shauna is all kinds of messed up too, but Jackie is a pretty shit person.
my hottest take will forever be that misty is misunderstood and is so sweet. she just wants friends that value her. she does everything for them in hopes to earn their love but all they do is talk shit about her and call her crazy. the only one who didn’t do this (usually)was natalie. i think this is why she valued natalie the most out of any of the other girls. in the present timeline that is
I love Jackie AND I love Shauna, just like you. I think liking one shouldn't negate the other. They are both complexe characters and that's why they are so interesting. But to me, the argument that nobody forced Shauna to live in the shadows of Jackie also applies to Jackie. Nobody forced Jackie to sleep outside. Jackie told Shauna to go outside, she said no, you should go yourself if you can't be in my company and that's just what Jackie did. She went out by herself. Nobody forced her. Like nobody forced Shauna to not communicate her feelings to her best friend. Was Jackie feeling welcome in the cabin? Nope. I wouldn't either, but nobody forced her. Did Shauna felt that her opinion didn't matter when being with Jackie? Yes. But nobody forced her to bottle up her feelings. I just love that show and I love the cast. I also think that Ben deserves better. I put him in Respect. That guy lost his leg, got poisoned twice by Misty. Witness all the girls eating Jackie. Tried to be the voice of reason. Tought them how to survive (hunt). Made sure Travis and Nat were safe. I think he is a great character. Not my favourite, be still great. I do love François Arnaud (Paul) as an actor, but his character was indeed hogging the minutes, I agree.
HEAVY agree with ben going into “i hope you draw the queen card” that is a little boy in an adult man’s body and i’ve seen enough of those in real life
I was wondering why you only had 10k views bc this is a very popular show and rankings are fun but then you started ranking and then you started to explaining and I just had to pause and exit
I hope Akilah is the last survivor to survive the wilderness but at the same time I’d also like time to see how they would take her out. I’m sure I’d be very sad or gruesome :3
They said that the rules are that one can submit to being killed or run in the hunt... I think if she would draw the queen card she wouldn't choose to run 😢
i LOVED jackie in the beginning but when she was getting messy with Travis and nat I couldn’t defend her anymore. Honestly it was just kinda funny to see them talking about what normal teenagers back home were doing in the beginning of the episode, then having a basic teenage cat fight by the end lol
You seem to be low on the empathy scale high on the psycopathy scale ..a boy was murdered sacrficed and eaten ...id call that evil you by pass that for someones ..joke ...young people are in trouble you are so lost in your own bubble of sycophantic worship of the lastest trends or in this case drama ..when your barely know life and have no psychological training...wow
I dont think Jackie is a mean girl, but I find it hard to find a moment where she didnt act in self interest. She's also a kid so im not going to make any crazy character statements about her beyond thinking she's not the greatest person. I think she's pretty nice to misty tho
THANK you for putting ben at that ranking I’m so sick of the ben defenders. the man taught health class and did nothing to help shauna while she was giving birth 😭😭 and I get he lost his leg and that’s awful but he made almost no attempt to take on a leadership role even though he was the only adult there. I feel like his death would be so much more interesting for the plot and the girls’ character arcs than anything else they could do with his character (like somehow letting him survive and introducing him into the adult tl which would make NO sense)
We don't know if he taught Health Class or just was the Substitute? Also it was the 90s so like there is not a lot you learn about Birth and pregnancies in like society as a general. Also the whole time he tried to be the voice of reason and nobody listened to him. Thanks to him they learned how to hunt and survive.
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YES FINALLY someone who hasn’t fallen for the Shauna Shipman propaganda and actually understands Jackie. I’m literally in the TRENCHES trying to defend my girl in the Yellowjackets subreddit.
people forget that you can like Shauna and find her interesting while also knowing that she didn't communicate with Jackie enough prior and treated her badly in that fight scene.
I HATE Shauna she was never a good person not even precrash
They could never make me hate her
i had no idea anyone thought jackie was a mean girl!! guess im on the right side of the fandom, thank god 😭
Jackie isn't a mean girl, but ghost Jackie is because Shauna is punishing herself by imagening that
Teen Nat deserved better. She's literally the least insane of them all
Jackie, for all she loves to believe she's capable of reading Shauna's mind, is not a mind reader. Shauna's own inability to share her emotions leds to frustration and eventually anger and resentment, so she directs all of it at Jackie, because for Shauna it is easier to pin the fault on Jackie, than having to confront the fact that shes created a version of her (homoerotic) best friend that justifies said feelings of anger, instead of realising this is a case of bad communication. Being a good writer does not necessarily makes you a good communicator, Shauna!!!!
Maybe it's because I'm 40 watching yellowjackets but I feel like a lot of you are too young or weren't born in the 90s to understand Ben's character and story.
First, Ben did take charge of a lot of things in season one, he was the one to teach them hunting and how to take apart an animal. He literally countered Travis sexism on multiple accounts.
You couldn't be openly gay in the 90s, Ben would've gotten fired and made a pariah! Y'all aren't understanding that he was upset over his leg because that effects how he would be viewed in both the LGBT community and the world he's still closeted in. He could have also been an athlete and soccer player too. The reason the scene with Paul is important is because he didn't have to make the trip and was thinking about coming out even if it meant ending his school career. Also being a health teacher in the 90s didn't mean you'd know anything about giving birth. A lot of schools didn't have trained professionals (like nurses etc) teaching that class until the 2000s..so yeah I didn't think a gay man would've been any help, especially if he is also going thru mental issues.
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I didn’t read all of this lol, but as soon as I saw you were defending him I likes the comment. Because I think the Yellowjackets get excused for things that Ben gets hated for. Like you cannot tell me adult Shauna would take charge in a pregnancy situation like in the teen timeline.
I really like Ben
I was born 2002 and I completely understood his struggle. And I know how little we learn about health care in school. Like I live in Germany and I think we are more progressive than 90s America but like it's not like Birth is a big topic in health class.
I really love all the characters because they are so fascinating but I hope Ben will make it out alive. He is the only sane person left
Yesssss I love Ben down, all the girls seem to forget that without him, they wouldn’t know shit about finding food or butchering
Random but it made me so sad seeing Jackie the only one with no adult counterpart in the top tier she rlly deserved better
I think coach Ben is a very complex character, I do agree that he is an adult man, but he was out numbered, and also his depression increased, what was he supposed to do in the wilderness with one leg, and also cannibalistic teenage girls? He was just supposed to tell them to stop? They’d ice him out just like they did Jackie or kill him, I know they aren’t mature, but are you telling yourself that you as a grown person with ONE leg, actively try an intervene against 15+ girls who are athletic and have adapted to murder?
Teen Natalie not being an elite is CRIMINAL!! she is actually my only elite character!
"sorry that happened to you" is *the* travis martinez category ijbol
like damn, his dad died, his brother died and they ate him, he got sa'd, almost killed and his gf almost got eaten too. crazy ass resume🙏😭
@@carat_light bro returns from the wilderness and spends the rest of his life struggling with ptsd and addiction before accidentally killing himself. posterchild of 'it never gets better'
Ben at the bottom but Travis in sorry that happened to you is crazy
Putting Ben that low is absolutely insane
We try to give Coach Ben some grace, I mean dude witnessed the soccer team he coaches eat someone 😭he just wants to be home with his man. We definitely see how Jackie is misunderstood, she was chosen as team captain for a reason, though arguably Taissa is better suited for that role. But Jackie’s ability to keep the team united is her strong suit. She knows how to lighten the mood even while stranded in the wilderness. Teen Taissa is elite and a badass! Misty is unhinged in every timeline, but gotta love Christina Ricci’s portrayal!!
NAHHHHHH, Ben deserves the “sorry that happened to you” tier for sure.
Putting teen Taissa above teen Natalie...oh bestie
jackie gets so mischaracterized sometimes it's like people are watching a completely different show 😭
Ben is abetter person than Travis. Travis doesnt care his dad is missing, his brother is suffering, slut shames Nat... and you sorry for him? While Ben was ostracized by the group since the night Jackie slept outside, and when they realize they need him, he's obligated to do something? I'm sorry for Ben.
travis was sexually assualted by the girls, his dad died, his brother died and he had to eat him.. he did go through shit
i do also feel sorry for ben tho, i dont hate him
There’s this thing that Shauna does sooo many times even as a grown up she throws a pity party by mentioning her traumas or having a side character do that for her… but like no if you’re gonna do horrible things you bet your ass it’s gonna be held against you. I need the Jackie supporters to stand up
Low key I think Shauna is a psychopath who is incapable of love but... I am a hater.... I love her family a lot and I think they deserve better :(
She is but it makes perfect sense of what happened to her in the wilds.
I wanted Lara Lee to live longer tbh, I feel she could've bought an interesting dynamic / point of view in alot of the scenes 😭😭
So happy to see you here on RUclips, I love hearing your thoughts and you have such a calming voice
Aw thank you!
I genuinely think Shauna is the only one that is deep inside NOT A GOOD PERSON
Yea but misty is on thing ice
I never realized this before but I think mostly enjoy the older versions more?
They come with pre-installed trauma which makes them more fun/unhinged!
So glad somebody actually understands half of the characters. Way too many people were way too quick to hate on Jackie when really it was all just a lack of communication. Can’t wait for season 3.
Definitely subbing so i can come back!
this was such a good video I love your voice and how well you understand all the characters
i agree with most of this but coach ben needs higher up he didn’t do anything wrong
Fr why they hate him so much😭
@slimshadyylk i’ve learned pretty quick they hate any of the men/boys on the show
Ben is probably going to die but I’d love a flash forward to see him older and somehow still in the woods
@@jonnyisdaboss yeah probably and i prefer all the other females over ben but i still don’t hate him
@@alexisjohnson7839 i dont understand why like i already saw ppl even hating on Javi like ??
god I know right Jackie was genuinely one of the best characters. shauna hater till the day i die fr, she was such a shitty friend and then proceeded to whine throughout like MA'AM ATLEAST DO EVIL WELL
Im so sick and tired of the Ben slander. Like if you don’t like him you are blinded by the main characters. Because he was in the same situation the girls were. He had no experience with pregnancy. He was just a coach and they stuck him in a random position, like schools normally do. There was no way for him to help, and if that is your only problem with him it’s insane to want him to die. All of the girls in the show have MANY flaws and we are all so quick to forgive them. I just don’t see a valid reason to hate Ben…
dawg the problem isn’t that ben didn’t know what to do its that he left the TEENAGE GIRLS with even LESS experience than him to handle the traumatic situation instead of standing tf up. no one in that cabin had any experience, they were all young and horrified, and the ONLY adult there chose to stick his head in the sand. FUCK HIM for leaving them to deal with that. they all had to face it, they all stayed to support their friend, which you seem to forget. a bunch of teenage girls could go what a grown ass man was too scared to face. i mean seriously.
@@whispers342The grown ass man was starving and had to watch his students tear up the body of their teammate like animals. He also lost his leg which is extremely traumatic and normally comes with phantom pain because the victims are not able to cope with the loss of their leg. He tried to be the reasonable person but they did not respect him anymore as an authority. He also was sexually assaulted by one of his students and literally poisoned by her just because he did not give her the attention and love she wanted.
Also they just straight up let a child drown so they can eat his flesh.
Bro is an adult and teacher but literally no life experience can prepare you for this shit.
@ the teenage girls were starving. van got mauled by wolves, tai has a horrifying sleepwalking disorder that she doesn’t understand. lottie is dealing with unmedicated schizophrenia. shauna is GIVING BIRTH. i really don’t see how ben going through something traumatic is anything less than the girls individual struggles who DID stay and DID help. they ASKED for his help, begged for it, for his “authority” in that situation and he turned it down. EVERYONE in that room suffered immense trauma, but they stayed, what is ben’s excuse? i mean seriously? what world are you living in where what ben went through is any worse than what everyone else had going on? so he had to watch them eat jackie,tai unwillingly ATE jackie in her fugue state, and she stayed! come on
also javi died after this situation so idk what that has to do with him not helping shauna
@@whispers342 omg get over it
@whispers342 I never said that what he experienced was worse than the others. But he was always an outsider of the group and in this moment when they needed him on the brink of starvation due to missing out on feasting on Jackie. He was mentally not even there and dissociating extremely.
The point is to show how like Jackie Ben also became an outsider and distanced himself from the group and their cult like behaviors. Literally nothing would've even changed if he would've "helped". He had zero knowledge like the rest of the girls LIKE HE SAID. They were very aggressive towards him before it like Mari just saying that he ate their food and that judging him for not participating in eating Jackie.
Literally compared to the others he did nothing wrong to get this extreme hate. Like you said everyone is suffering and everyone is behaving in the way they are capable of. But since the group was starting to become a cult everyone who was different was seen as a problem (Jacke refusing to say blessing during her final meal).
Also just because he is grown up doesn't mean anything in a crisis because nobody is prepared for this. Without him they never would've learned to hunt. And I think him being an adult actually was more of a problem because he knows how fucked up this whole mess is and he can not easily just loose his morality and society norms.
Ben hate is so forced 💀🐛
ily for putting jackie on top
Loved the ranking. Can't wait for season 3 and seeing your content 😊
Thank you!!!
The only moment with Jackie for “mean girl” is when adding drama to travis and Natalie but that pretty much it that doesn’t make her a full mean girl tho
Also she literally wasn't doing it on purpose. She did not know that Natalie lied to Travis and wanted to compliment him for being more decent than the guys she hooked up with and had a bad experience with.
I am sure she didn't even know that the one was Travis' Bully
@ i know that was saying that doesn’t count for that reason she starts some of the drama but it’s not her fault
@@Eclipses915 Yeah I really don't understand where this "Mean Girl" narrative is coming from? She literally complimented everyone in the first episode and they were earnest components from her
@@Isabelle-hv6ny she slut shames the everliving hell out of nat for almost 0 reason I dont think its completely unfounded
@@Isabelle-hv6nyok but did she truly compliment everyone? She compliments everyone BUT Shawna. She first says all the things wrong with Shawna and the “compliment” she gives her is really about herself. What Shawna brings to her life in relation to Jackie. Everyone else gets a straight compliment about what makes them great but Shawna’s only value to Jackie as a person is what she brings to Jackie’s life. It is still all about Jackie.
I'm so happy I found your RUclips page!!! ❤❤
Teen and Adult Misty are both elite employees to me. She is batshit insane and does so many psycho things so I get why you put her in “why do you do the things you do” but like. I’m sorry she is so fun to watch. Literally my favourite character. MVP of every episode to see what scheme she’s gonna come up with next.
AH I love the longer videos, your explanations of the characters are soooo good and your voice is so calming to me. Can't wait for more videos with season 3 coming out :)
I never understood snyone who hates Jackie or think of her as a mean girl. The main mean girls are Van, Ty, Shauna, Lottie.
Why is Jackie not a mean girl?
#1 Jackie offered the last food she had to shauna.
#2 shes considerate she remembered to bring Shauna medicine for the flight.
#3 she gave her a beautiful gold necklace.
Most of all any friend who is willing to starve themselves out to feed you is a friend that will give you their life.
how are van and lottie mean girls though? van was rightfully upset at jackie because she left her to die, and then jackie got upset bc they wanted to use her skincare product as a disinfectant. and i love jackie a lot more than van, but you'd be upset at jackie too if you were her.
Totally agree with you on Misty. Teenage Misty annoys the shit out of me, but I love adult Misty. Yes, she's a sociopath, but the way she fully embraces it is hilarious.
That's a really good point with Jackie because she didn't have any sort of concept of who she was! Like even their coach was trying to put her in a leadership role & it's like girl you don't have to be that if you don't want too!
Making the bottom category "I hope you pull the queen card" is hilarious lol. I've never seen you on tiktok, but now I need to go watch your other videos. Happy this one randomly came up on my feed
This video
Just left me feeling like you are probably really mean in real
Life.
istg she seems like the most obnoxious and mean person
I stopped watching the show for 5 months because Jackie died I was soo mad
I agree with pretty much everything except Nat being in tears are being shed, for me I think she should be in elite employees.
I’m an ardent believer that if Misty was popular, she’d probably still be the same, just more polished. I imagine something like Elle Fanning in The Girl from Plainville.
Hi. Love your assessment, intuition and understanding of the participants. TY for such a detailed and thorough presentation 🤍🌈
Thank you so much!
i am a victim of shauna shipmans propaganda
omg hi queen i love your tiktoks so glad i found you here
Mari wasn’t a mean girl she was a follower and absolutely annoying
9:27 LOVE JACKIE AND SHAUNA SO MUCH IDC WHAT U SAY
Way too many people are falling into the trap of favoring the leads because they are the leads. Tai broke her teammates leg so they would win a soccer game. Shauna was sleeping with her best friends boyfriend, and Lottie absolutely knew the influence she began to have on them after the crash. None of them would have made it thus far without the help and knowledge of Coach Ben. Did he make mistakes? Absolutely. Was he out shaking his titties at the moon in the name of The Wilderness and eating the team? No, that was your elite group. They all made mistakes. But everyone seems to dismiss the ladies simply because the writers gave them other likable traits.
subscribed so fast girl this is the content i live for
I don't think Jackie was the worst I think her and Shauna both have their issues, but I definitely get some mean girl vibes from Jackie. She literally slutshamed Nat when they didn't have food even though that was equally Travis's fault and then she went and got with him
Love this
cant waitt for season 3
YES 100% WITH JACKIE
tbh shauna did some crappy things, and shes def not my favorite character, but i dont think i could ever hate her, no matter how annoying she gets. im def a Jackie lover for life
This made me say “the kids are gonna be alright” like an absolute cringer. Godly tier list, every single thing you said was incredibly based and well-articulated.
diva you are funny asf!!! i loveee your tik toks and your yt channel is already a hit for me
Popping off just in time for season 3!
Misty, nat and tai are my top3😊
thank you so much for not bashing shauna. i love her so much even though shes messy ❤
Van at the top, Mari Lower sorry. She doesn’t do anything but stir the pot… literally ! She instigates fights when they should be working together.
Also hell no, Shauna hate club forever.
@@alexisbeattie595i hate shauna too in both timeslines
Adult misty is elite
So super normal about the side characters of the adult timeline (Skipped to the adult timeline to see where you ranked my girl Lisa)
SHE'S INNOCENT KAITLYN ITS NOT HER FAULT. NAT DIED PROTECTING HER BECAUSE SHE SAW SO MUCH OF HER YOUNGER SELF IN LISA PLEEEEASE KAITLYN. (I swear idc that much)
Everyone be quiet my show is on :)))
thank you for brining this to RUclips! You rock!
Hahah thanks for the support!
I like Walter, but only through Misty. I like their relationship and I’m excited to see where it goes, even though I don’t really trust him yet either.
I can't wait to see this season... Akilah 🎉
Jackie lost me when she wanted to leave Van to die without a thought. Then was going to say that the sanitizer or whatever was hers..."hey, that's mine" she was obviously about to say before realizing it was Van suggesting it. While coach Scott was bleeding out. Shauna is all kinds of messed up too, but Jackie is a pretty shit person.
Taissa Turner is so underrated. She is literally a queen.
i am both a victim of shauna shipmans propaganda & under jackie’s spell so idc i love everyone
my hottest take will forever be that misty is misunderstood and is so sweet. she just wants friends that value her. she does everything for them in hopes to earn their love but all they do is talk shit about her and call her crazy. the only one who didn’t do this (usually)was natalie. i think this is why she valued natalie the most out of any of the other girls. in the present timeline that is
Yeah trying to drug and assault her coach is just her being sweet 😍
the way i saw a clip of this on my tiktok, and it is now the first thing on my youtube explore page. The algorithm’s are doing wonders for you
I love Jackie AND I love Shauna, just like you. I think liking one shouldn't negate the other. They are both complexe characters and that's why they are so interesting.
But to me, the argument that nobody forced Shauna to live in the shadows of Jackie also applies to Jackie. Nobody forced Jackie to sleep outside. Jackie told Shauna to go outside, she said no, you should go yourself if you can't be in my company and that's just what Jackie did. She went out by herself. Nobody forced her. Like nobody forced Shauna to not communicate her feelings to her best friend. Was Jackie feeling welcome in the cabin? Nope. I wouldn't either, but nobody forced her. Did Shauna felt that her opinion didn't matter when being with Jackie? Yes. But nobody forced her to bottle up her feelings.
I just love that show and I love the cast.
I also think that Ben deserves better. I put him in Respect. That guy lost his leg, got poisoned twice by Misty. Witness all the girls eating Jackie. Tried to be the voice of reason. Tought them how to survive (hunt). Made sure Travis and Nat were safe. I think he is a great character. Not my favourite, be still great.
I do love François Arnaud (Paul) as an actor, but his character was indeed hogging the minutes, I agree.
I love mari sm 😂
im sorry but i love walter
Oh my god wake up Kaitlyn posted on RUclips!
Bro I’m so happy someone else doesn’t like how to actress portrayed adult nat like I love the actress but I don’t like her portrayal of nat
Misty is my fave lol
Omg another Mari Truther!! I love a mean girl that’s funny
why does ben have shooters in these comments omg
i am a jessica roberts #1 fan!!
this is so fun omg
HEAVY agree with ben going into “i hope you draw the queen card” that is a little boy in an adult man’s body and i’ve seen enough of those in real life
Bro is onto nothing 🙏💀
@@greencheekconurestan5316 and on something…
He literally did nothing wrong?
I was wondering why you only had 10k views bc this is a very popular show and rankings are fun but then you started ranking and then you started to explaining and I just had to pause and exit
I hope Akilah is the last survivor to survive the wilderness but at the same time I’d also like time to see how they would take her out. I’m sure I’d be very sad or gruesome :3
They said that the rules are that one can submit to being killed or run in the hunt... I think if she would draw the queen card she wouldn't choose to run 😢
Ben had a fully developed frontal cortex. Sorry, sir that gives you an advantage
jackie is like... a concept of a good character lol
Oh I’m SUBBED now
Van and Misty way too high
i LOVED jackie in the beginning but when she was getting messy with Travis and nat I couldn’t defend her anymore. Honestly it was just kinda funny to see them talking about what normal teenagers back home were doing in the beginning of the episode, then having a basic teenage cat fight by the end lol
Jackie just did not want to die a virgin and there is like one option there. So I don't blame her xD
@ she coulda admitted her 🏳️🌈feelings🏳️🌈 to shauna but I digress
i love that ben was the only one in the bottom tier for like the whole video
Walter is an elite employee bffr
You seem to be low on the empathy scale high on the psycopathy scale ..a boy was murdered sacrficed and eaten ...id call that evil you by pass that for someones ..joke ...young people are in trouble you are so lost in your own bubble of sycophantic worship of the lastest trends or in this case drama ..when your barely know life and have no psychological training...wow
Where is Jonas from Dark????
i love mari
I dont think Jackie is a mean girl, but I find it hard to find a moment where she didnt act in self interest. She's also a kid so im not going to make any crazy character statements about her beyond thinking she's not the greatest person. I think she's pretty nice to misty tho
Here me out yall, Pit Girl happens in the adult timeline and it’s Callie😢
(Manifesting this so Mari doesn’t die🙏)
Mari,Gen and Crystal the iconic mean girls
crystal isnt mean?
@acailoves nah I see Mari like Regina vibes Gen as Gretchen anf Krystal is more a Karen vibes
@EmanuelHagberg-o8j mari and gen dont even like crystal 😭
@@acailoves EXACTLY
THANK you for putting ben at that ranking I’m so sick of the ben defenders. the man taught health class and did nothing to help shauna while she was giving birth 😭😭 and I get he lost his leg and that’s awful but he made almost no attempt to take on a leadership role even though he was the only adult there. I feel like his death would be so much more interesting for the plot and the girls’ character arcs than anything else they could do with his character (like somehow letting him survive and introducing him into the adult tl which would make NO sense)
We don't know if he taught Health Class or just was the Substitute?
Also it was the 90s so like there is not a lot you learn about Birth and pregnancies in like society as a general. Also the whole time he tried to be the voice of reason and nobody listened to him.
Thanks to him they learned how to hunt and survive.