I think in the context of the show, “The Wilderness” exists as a metaphor for human nature that many people refuse to claim. In modern civilization, we have developed rules and standards of living, but when you trip all of that away, we are still animals at our core. We as humans like to think we are above nature, rather than a part of it. And nature is indifferent, it has no morals, it’s neither good nor evil. It just does whatever is necessary to continue forward. Therefore, so do we. All of this to say, there could be some sort of supernatural presence in the woods. But I don’t think it has possessed them. I think it’s more likely that they latched on to the entity so they would have something to blame rather than confronting their own nature. Nothing forced them to let Jackie and Javi die. Those deaths were solely the result of their own decisions. And yet the group tells themselves “The Wilderness chose” them. Because in a way, they’re right. Only “The Wilderness” is the girls’ own nature.
this is such a good read of the situation! it makes a lot of sense with shauna's line about how there's no difference if it was the wilderness or them who did those stuff
I love this idea, it's one of my favorite themes in the show. This perfectly describes the pull I have towards the series being psychological; I love the exploration of human behavior and how being in nature and being stripped to a their core instincts can change a person. And you're right, the girls act like it's the wilderness's fault that they did that to Jackie and Javi, but they're really just scared of who they truly are and what they're willing to do to survive. Nature doesn't choose, things just naturally happen, and to survive, you have to adapt to that. They're just not used to that behaving so primally because they've been so conditioned by their normal lives in society. They're not able to hide anymore.
19:50 Something to consider!!! Lottie’s visions came to her on the last day she took her medication. Her medication would STILL be in effect for at least 24 hours, when she would need her next pill (the NEXT morning). So, she was still medicated when the visions came to her.
The mind is a powerful thing - if she believed she had no meds in her system that could be enough to trigger an episode EDIT: especially when you add in the extreme mental, emotional and physical stress she's been in
@ Agree with you 100%! That’s what is so intriguing about this show. It really gives a lot of potential supporting evidence on both sides for the supernatural vs. trauma conversation I can definitely see it being either or, or a combination of both, due to everything they show and HOW they show it (especially with the patterns of trauma)
Also it depends heavily on the antipsychotic but depending on how long Lottie had been taking her medication and the dosage, the effects could have lingered on her system for days to decreasing effect.
In my class right now we’re talking about how societies when they’re going through hard times they look for spirituality as a scapegoat, and I find that really interesting with Lotties cult
i honestly hope that they never confirm or deny whether it’s supernatural or just seen through the damaged psyches of the girls because that’s something i find so compelling about the show. i like that it’s left up to interpretation
Loved this, I’ve been waiting for some long form Yellowjackets content! One thing, Leonard isn’t what caught on fire. On Reddit, someone looked in to how the type of plane Laura Lee tried to fly is built, and it’s more likely that there was a fuel line underneath the seats that started the fire. I believe Leonard being engulfed in flames first was simply just for shock factor or as symbolism for the death of innocence/hope in that moment.
24:51 Thank you for posting this. I never knew what Lottie said in French. It’s really intriguing! He could be the Wilderness or Cabin Daddy. Meager means simple…like the offerings were too simple, not good enough.
i saw some theories that cabin daddy killed his family in sacrifice to the wilderness and that's the blood dripping mari hears and they see in the cabin!! i'm interested to see what they'll make of it in season 3
@ Me too. I thought that would be the extra episode that was teased with Jason Ritter in it…but no. The showrunners said that was a lot like the Shining, Cabin Daddy and his family…so yes Mari probably saw their blood…we might never know though.
I watched with subtitles and the French was translated for me so I knew what lottie was saying mostly she was saying, he wants to spill blood, he wants blood, we must spill blood, and future lottie said the same with the beehives she said “Il veut du sang” which is “he wants blood.”
great analysis! i def think misty is a serial killer; i feel like the show hints at this in multiple areas (her job early on gave “angel of death” vibes, the way she cleaned up shauna’s bf’s murdered, etc) but also some of those things (esp the “angel of death” vibes) could have been a bit subtle if english is not your first language, so i think it’s great you picked up on it! (also i watched s1 in like a day just before s2 came out, idk how you watched both in one day, amazing 🥰)
i think there were definitely a few details i missed because english isnt my first language so thank you for letting me know!! yeah i didn't have any sleep i couldn't stop watching lol!!
@ There was a podcast where a man who was a pilot said that the black box is only useful if it falls into the ocean and couldn’t be found easy where the plane crashed. I think it was Antler Queens.
quase comentei em ingles mas a diva é brasileiraaa! o algoritmo arrasou com essa recomendação!! estou chocada que não tem milhares de visualizações! a qualidade do video está impecável! (e a thai virando crente kakkakak gritei)
omg muito obrigada!! amei que o youtube finalmente fez seu trabalho e recomendou meu vídeo e ainda pra vários brasileiros SJSJSJSJS muito obrigada mesmo!! fico feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo
I think it's always going to be kept ambiguous and that's kinda what makes the show so interesting! There are definitely parts that lean supernatural but it's always with a sliver of deniability. They can't escape the wild necessarily because of the supernatural but because of the trauma that stuck with them
I can’t speak for all language classes in the U.S., but I took ASL in high school and it was complete immersion. We learned 20 words a week usually as part of a themed unit like introductions, daily routine, or medical. As part of the medical unit we learned terms like injury, pain, and blood. It is totally possible that she learned that word in school.
yeah i think you're right, i also think i remember learning the word blood while learning about body parts in english class? so again there's definitely a chance she's learnt it in school. thank you for commenting your perspective!!
I started extremely opposed to supernatural anything. But as time passes the idea of them being in some sort of otherworldly limbo with a cabin sort of fascinates me.
I think in terms of Lottie speaking French, while I don't go to school in the US, the sentences used are plausible for a highschool student to construct. Jackie is in the same french class as her and was able to translate a good bit of it so I doubt it was completely out of the realm of something Lottie could know. There could be other factors too like how Lottie is richer compared to the rest of the girls and could probably have extra tutors or something and pretends to be as bad at french as Jackie to not stick out. Or maybe she just memorised a specific set of vocab words better than Jackie. Or she may have really been possessed since she is more intuitive and easier to commune with than the others from a supernatural standpoint. It's all subjective. I'm personally fine with the show going either way on the supernatural or not debate. I'll love whatever they decide lol.
i think these points all make sense, i didn't point out any ways lottie could have known french because i wanted to stick with exactly they said about her french skills, but again your ideas as of why she would be able to say those things make a lot of sense! i'm super interested to see where they'll take the supernatural/rational thing going forward too
You have such a fun personality!! What a great video! Very insightful and well thought out. The supernatural vs rational debate is one of my favourite parts of yellowjackets. I don't prefer one over the other, I really like not knowing the answer and finding clues for both arguments. I agree about season 2. I still LOVED it but I'm hoping season 3 is more cohesive. I'm praying they do something interesting with Walter to justify his existence because he feels like a waste of screentime to me. Adult Misty was so fun in season 1 and a big part of that was her playing off of Nat (and Jessica Roberts) as a sort of odd couple.
thank you so much!! i also hope season 3 will be more cohesive and that walter's existence will be more justified. i like his dynamic with misty ok but his existence for now has felt pretty forced
I loved this! You got my subscription. This is the first time watching your channel, and I love how you explained things and your personality is awesome! I really like your theory on Misty being a serial killer. I never thought about it from that angle, but boy does it make sense!
been thinking about this so much! personally i think i’d prefer if it turns out to not be supernatural and that these things are all due to trauma/human nature/primal urges etc i think that would be so cool but i’m excited to see what they do w it either way!!
yeah you're right!! i think i meant in the teen timeline no one calls her charlotte but they do in her present time cult 😭 again thank you for letting me know!! ♡
i’ve already left a comment on this video but i feel it is my duty to explain the concept of “dibs”. calling dibs is basically claiming something you don’t already have. if there was a pizza with only one slice left, and you were all the way across the room, you can shout out “dibs” and even if someone else gets there first, that slice of pizza is yours. natalie didn’t literally “call dibs” on travis, but since everyone knew she liked him, a good friend would treat it like she had “claimed” him and wouldn’t pursue anything with him even after they had broken up.
4:41 Shauna is my favourite character aswell because she seems pretty ruthless and I feel like we’re gon see that happening more next season and if you’ve seen the s3 trailer it looks like she is going to take control of the group 10:55 I also think akilah has become the doctor of the group so it’d be critical if she died aswell although misty seems to also be taking up that role so maybe not, the theories that the main characters with roles for the group won’t die makes sense like Shauna is the butcher she’s needed and alive, same as the hunters Nat and travis very important and alive, misty possibly the groups medic, alive, Lottie the “prophet” Alive and then van and tai im not sure what there roles are in the group tbh maybe there the belief voices like van is full Lottie beliefs and tai is complete opposite it’s all logical so not sure but they’re alive and then Mari or akilah one of which will survive but I have a feeling it’ll be akilah because like I said she has also taken on the medic role when it came to van and Shauna. Mari doesn’t seem to have any role so I dont know why she’d survive other than maybe her role is the cook since she does cook all the food, but that’s not that hard to do. Misty, Van, tai or even Lottie can cook the food it’s not a specific skill only Mari has so she’s really not that needed 35:05 speaking of dark tai I saw a theory which makes sense to me someone said that “dark tai” is actually the real tai who’s trying to guide this version of her because she’s trapped somehow that’s why “dark tai” (real tai) always loves van and trusts her so much and eats the bodies to keep her alive plus in the future “dark tai” (real tai) makes the other tai go back to van because she needs her I honestly think it makes sense that the “awake tai” we see is actually dark tai who just has the most control in the wilderness whilst the real tai is now trapped and can only “come out” when she’s “asleep” or when it’s a traumatic moment. (This is just a theory the first 2 are what I think will happen and this last one is just an idea lol I think it’s probably not going to be true like the tai we see probably is the real tai but this theory I saw makes sense so you never know) 1:14:01 calls on dibs basically means claimed so Jackie was basically saying Natalie can’t claim him it doesn’t matter
i unfortunately don't think akilah will live 😭 giving her a baby nephew was such an easy way to make us sad about her potential death lol and yeah there's misty who's also assuming the role of medic, so unfortunately i don't think we have much time with akilah left
@ I actually think pit girl will be gen because I saw some bts pictures and it was of the pit girl mannequin and they gave her bangs (a fringe) and the mannequin looked very similar to gen more than Mari, I also am not attached to Mari her character doesn’t make me feel anyway towards her lol I think if the girls ate her it would be better lol since she brings nothing special
canadian 90s/2000s kid here, calling dibs is like saying 'its mine' but it's like unarguable. if you call dibs it's treated as like sacred amongst other kids who used dibs. just the way the kids would claim stuff, I think this highlights how young they really are in the show (on top of dating it in the 90s)
This is a great video, thank you for articulating your points so well! It's clear that you are very intelligent and think a lot about your interests. I get the same way when I get fixed on something. Thanks for the video
i'm a simple girl i see someone talk about yellowjackets for over an hour and i must click.. a lovely video in anticipation of s3 :] also loveee to see a shauna enjoyer #ShipmanApologistForLife
I think the show is actually still playing with the idea of whether or not Lottie is TRULY sick. While she is doing things like having conversations with no one and visions, these aren’t inherently schizophrenia conditions, rather repeated visions of the same thing or audial hallucinations are. She sees different things constantly, therefore she truly can’t have schizophrenia
you're right! although van calls lottie schizophrenic, we don't necessarily have to take that as the ultimate truth and there's still some room for ambiguity
@ to me it feels like yet again the group prescribing blame to her, Misty says she’s the reason they start eating people, The Exposition didn’t go well and Lottie knew therefore she is put into higher power, Lottie doesn’t need a gun compared to Nat. The group have such a misinterpreted view of Lottie as a Jesus figure they can both be saved by but also put their internal blame on, not just the wilderness.
I was finally able to convince my gf to watch it it me! She was apprehensive because of the gore and overall theme but she did come to the decision on her own. After I talked her ears off for weeks about it she was interested enough and now she's obsessed too LOL
i took german in a US middle and high school. by german 2, the second full year of the class, we weren’t allowed to speak english at all in class by the second half of the school year. at the beginning of that year we were expected to at least try to say everything we wanted to say in german with few exceptions. i don’t think it’s a stretch to think that lottie learned words like blood in class, given that jackie, who was in the same class, was able to translate what lottie was saying.
you're right lol jackie understands a bit too! so they probably learnt it in class. thank you for the perspective!! (also it seems to be pretty efficient to do a full immersion class, i don't think i had those in my foregin language [english and spanish] classes in school - maybe that's why i don't remember any spanish at all lol)
calling dibs means like claiming that thing or person as yours. it’s normally used if two people are interested in the same thing, one person will say “i call dibs” and it means they claim that thing first. It’s used claim the front seat of a car and to claim the first chance to flirt with an attractive person. kinda confusing now that i think about it haha.
Part of me hopes that it isn't supernatural; I think it's more interesting for their characters if it's just a study on how people behave without civilization. I know other media has done that before but I like what they're doing with this show and I don't want it to get lost in an extra complicated supernatural plot. I think making it too supernatural makes me not take the show as seriously; I like the ambiguous nature of some of the scenes but I'd be dissapointed if they took it fully supernatural. Middle ground teetering towards psychological is perfect in my opinion.
i agree! but i like this ambiguity the show is keeping. one of my best friends is a psych student and i love hearing her thoughts about the show through the rational viewpoint. i'm interested to see where they'll take things though
new subscriber here! i agree with the part about lottie speaking french but i think the show leaves it open to theories all the time if it's all supernatural or not (the duality u mentioned), which is entertaining for the audience. i personally prefer the non supernatural theory, either by collective hallucination or contaminated water (this would explain the sick animals too) but the whole taissa arc is very bizarre! and i think the reason why misty misses her time in the wilderness is because that was when she felt most needed, most useful - but i got intrigued about the serial killer theory! not so related but i'm adept of the theory that van set the cabin on fire and i think the show will relate her to fire more, after she almost burned to death twice! the trailer for the new season shows a match in the reflection of her eyes somewhere that looks like a house soooo... eu não sei porque escrevi esse comentário todo em inglês mas ótimo vídeo! ‧˚ ( • ﻌ • )
i hadn't heard the contamined water theory but it also makes a lot of sense! and you're right about misty too. when it comes to van burning down the cabin, i find this super interesting and i like all the fire stuff relating to her so i just find this idea kind of fascinating. i'd love to see this subversion of expectation since we are all thinking coach scott was the one who did it. omg e eu respondi o comentário todo em inglês haha muito obrigada!!
About the word “maigre” (I forget the spelling tbh), I definitely learned that word in high school French. Like you mentioned about Portuguese, maigre can mean physically thin in French, but I also learned it can mean thin as in frail or weak. It’s a much more common word in French than the word “meager” in English. A more accurate translation in Lottie’s dialogue would be “the gifts were too weak”. As someone who took high school French over a decade ago, I feel pretty confident that someone who was currently taking senior level French classes would be able to put those sentences together. That said I’m pro-supernatural interpretations and I do think she was possessed in that scene lol
thank you for the insight! i was wondering about the sentences because they are in different verbal tenses, so i didn't know if she would have studied enough to know how to put them together that way
Agree alot with your sentiment about season 2. I think the most interesting character going into s3 re: belief or disbelief in the supernatural or lottie's cult in general will be shauna
I love that you did this video (hi I'm new here) I'm not team supernatural or team natural, I'm team "how could it be supernaturally explained, can it be naturally explained?" I also question the fact I love Shauna and I also think it's because ML was one of my big crushes.. My question is, what was it that made you crush on Melanie Lynsky and was it Heavenly Creatures? Cause same. Thanks for this. 💜
I also want to add, because it's the Yellowjackets hill I will die on. Jeff didn't send the postcards, and I'll explain why. When Shauna confronts him about the blackmail, he says something like "I thought Taissa, maybe Nat" in reference to getting money out of Shaunas friends. He doesn't mention Misty and Misty, Nat and Taissa received postcards. Jeff sent the texts, Jeff didn't send the postcards.
thank you so much for the comment! i like your perspective on the situation, my friend who's also recently watched yellowjackets was interesting it through a similar lens. my crush on melanie lynskey began with ever after 1998 actually! then it grew with other stuff i watched that she acted in. i totally understand yours beginning with heavenly creatures (same for kate winslet)
US language classes are not very rigorous, most high schools will have you take 2 courses to satisfy graduation requirements. Some students go on and take more challenging classes that could give you a great foundation, and end up being able to write a basic 5 paragraph essay in the foreign language or speak conversationally given the practice. Most people i know educated in the US will always say " i took french/spanish in high school, but i don’t remember much " then spout out a random sentence/phrase in a terrible accent
yeah i see a lot of people saying they took certain languages classes and then not really knowing much so that's why i was curious to see if there was a way for lottie to have actually learnt that
Hi! Such a great video :) you mentioned that you aren’t/weren’t sure what “call dibs” means so I thought I could help. To call dibs on something means to claim something as yours. Most commonly it’s used by children to get the best seat or toy ect. But you can call dibs on anything you may want
Great vid, I'm team supernatural, but the show runners said they'll keep that debate ambiguous 🤷♂️ I feel like the wilderness brought me to this chan 🙂 because I've been listening to Rosinha de Valenco & Sylvia Telles- Consolacao, Samba Torto 🇧🇷
just so u know "calling dibs" is kind of like claiming something or someone for yourself before anyone else does. so nat "called dibs" on travis by sort of dating him.
Rorschach is pronounced "roar shock". It's that psychological test where the guy shows you a blob on a page and you tell him if it looks like a butterfly or two bears high fiving.
Actually the reason Jackie sleeps with Travis is because she wants to prove to Shauna what she did with Jeff was wrong and also wants to be on the same page as Shauna who has already lost her virginity. I believe she was also a realist and did know they were not going to be saved anytime soon.
Do we know where their flight was originally heading? Cause I wanna know why they were in my country lol. Unless they were flying to Alaska it seems strange the plane crashed in Canada for a US NATIONAL tournament. I'm just curious about that
i think they mention, or i read somewhere, that the plane ended up flying way more towards the north than it should have (?) they were going from new jersey to seattle
Just starting the video and love it already. We do see ppl call Lottie Charlotte but its only pll from her cult in present timeline. Edit: Aah vc é brasileiraa kkk A Misty concerteza é serial killer, eu acho q algo que me deu mt certeza disso é a conversa dela com o walter antes dela ir pro culto da lottie. Mas tem mts sinais pra n ser. Eu acho que ela ia matar o cara q saiu com ela no primeiro ep se a Natalie n tivesse aparecido.
verdade!! tem muitas cenas que literalmente só dá pra explicar com a misty sendo serial killer e isso do nome da lottie foi mania minha de fugir do roteiro porque eu tinha escrito que ninguém chama ela de charlotte na timeline de 1996 mas minha cabeça me fez dizer na série toda 😭😭😭 o tonguisse
Lmao @ the French numbers part. They're normal from 0-69, but then it gets crazy. It goes sixty nine, sixty ten (70), sixty eleven (71),...[72-78], sixty nineteen(79), four twenty(80), four twenty one(81), four twenty two(82),....[83-88], four twenty nine(89), four twenty ten(90), four twenty eleven(91),....[92-98], four twenty nineteen(99), hundred. Its so wild. Also you were right the second time: ici rhymes with "see see". And etaient is pronounced the same GOD FORSAKEN WAY as Eté, etais and etait! 😡 I can speak French but i can no longer write in French to save my life because you pronounce everything the same way but spell it differently. É = like Hey, okay, may, gay Ai = the same Ais = the same lmao Ait = the same ugh Aient = the same, okay fuck that 😑
yeah you have to do math to say the numbers???? no thank you (to be fair i also struggled with some numbers in english, like "12 hundred". why not say "1 thousand and 2 hundred"??? [i mean i understand why lol but it was difficult for me to learn]) also i don't know why i pronnounced ici like it was italian out of nowhere
close enough, welcome back Laura Leigh
funny as hell 😭
Lololol best comment. 😂
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I think in the context of the show, “The Wilderness” exists as a metaphor for human nature that many people refuse to claim. In modern civilization, we have developed rules and standards of living, but when you trip all of that away, we are still animals at our core. We as humans like to think we are above nature, rather than a part of it. And nature is indifferent, it has no morals, it’s neither good nor evil. It just does whatever is necessary to continue forward. Therefore, so do we.
All of this to say, there could be some sort of supernatural presence in the woods. But I don’t think it has possessed them. I think it’s more likely that they latched on to the entity so they would have something to blame rather than confronting their own nature.
Nothing forced them to let Jackie and Javi die. Those deaths were solely the result of their own decisions. And yet the group tells themselves “The Wilderness chose” them. Because in a way, they’re right. Only “The Wilderness” is the girls’ own nature.
this is such a good read of the situation! it makes a lot of sense with shauna's line about how there's no difference if it was the wilderness or them who did those stuff
This is a great way to put it wow
I love this idea, it's one of my favorite themes in the show. This perfectly describes the pull I have towards the series being psychological; I love the exploration of human behavior and how being in nature and being stripped to a their core instincts can change a person. And you're right, the girls act like it's the wilderness's fault that they did that to Jackie and Javi, but they're really just scared of who they truly are and what they're willing to do to survive. Nature doesn't choose, things just naturally happen, and to survive, you have to adapt to that. They're just not used to that behaving so primally because they've been so conditioned by their normal lives in society. They're not able to hide anymore.
“Jackie aka Snackie” i am giggling on the clock
19:50 Something to consider!!! Lottie’s visions came to her on the last day she took her medication. Her medication would STILL be in effect for at least 24 hours, when she would need her next pill (the NEXT morning). So, she was still medicated when the visions came to her.
The mind is a powerful thing - if she believed she had no meds in her system that could be enough to trigger an episode
EDIT: especially when you add in the extreme mental, emotional and physical stress she's been in
@ Agree with you 100%! That’s what is so intriguing about this show. It really gives a lot of potential supporting evidence on both sides for the supernatural vs. trauma conversation
I can definitely see it being either or, or a combination of both, due to everything they show and HOW they show it (especially with the patterns of trauma)
oh wow i hadn't even realized that but you're right!
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Also it depends heavily on the antipsychotic but depending on how long Lottie had been taking her medication and the dosage, the effects could have lingered on her system for days to decreasing effect.
In my class right now we’re talking about how societies when they’re going through hard times they look for spirituality as a scapegoat, and I find that really interesting with Lotties cult
I've been waiting for more youtubers to make yellowjackets content so thank you for answering my prayers
i honestly hope that they never confirm or deny whether it’s supernatural or just seen through the damaged psyches of the girls because that’s something i find so compelling about the show. i like that it’s left up to interpretation
i also love this aspect! definitely one of the most compelling ones and it opens room for so much discussion
Loved this, I’ve been waiting for some long form Yellowjackets content! One thing, Leonard isn’t what caught on fire. On Reddit, someone looked in to how the type of plane Laura Lee tried to fly is built, and it’s more likely that there was a fuel line underneath the seats that started the fire. I believe Leonard being engulfed in flames first was simply just for shock factor or as symbolism for the death of innocence/hope in that moment.
thank you for letting me know!! it makes sense considering laura lee's death was meant to represent their loss of innocence and hope in general
Bless up, I just finished the entire series in the span of 2 days and i need to consume theories now until the next season
we are all suffering from yellowjackets brain now i think
24:51 Thank you for posting this. I never knew what Lottie said in French. It’s really intriguing! He could be the Wilderness or Cabin Daddy. Meager means simple…like the offerings were too simple, not good enough.
i saw some theories that cabin daddy killed his family in sacrifice to the wilderness and that's the blood dripping mari hears and they see in the cabin!! i'm interested to see what they'll make of it in season 3
@ Me too. I thought that would be the extra episode that was teased with Jason Ritter in it…but no. The showrunners said that was a lot like the Shining, Cabin Daddy and his family…so yes Mari probably saw their blood…we might never know though.
I watched with subtitles and the French was translated for me so I knew what lottie was saying mostly she was saying, he wants to spill blood, he wants blood, we must spill blood, and future lottie said the same with the beehives she said “Il veut du sang” which is “he wants blood.”
@ Wow, my subtitles don’t translate all the French like yours.
Chuu at the beginning is absolutely gold, amazing videooo
thank you!! stan chuu 🙏🏻
great analysis! i def think misty is a serial killer; i feel like the show hints at this in multiple areas (her job early on gave “angel of death” vibes, the way she cleaned up shauna’s bf’s murdered, etc) but also some of those things (esp the “angel of death” vibes) could have been a bit subtle if english is not your first language, so i think it’s great you picked up on it! (also i watched s1 in like a day just before s2 came out, idk how you watched both in one day, amazing 🥰)
i think there were definitely a few details i missed because english isnt my first language so thank you for letting me know!! yeah i didn't have any sleep i couldn't stop watching lol!!
@@edgeofthesea Technically, she’s killed multiple people…even if it was two by accident.
@wildmarjoramdieselpunk6396 what about that thing from the plane that she broke, was it the cause of the delayed rescue?
@@jojoojojojvocê tem sotaque de brasileira, adivinhei?
@ There was a podcast where a man who was a pilot said that the black box is only useful if it falls into the ocean and couldn’t be found easy where the plane crashed. I think it was Antler Queens.
French here ! You did a pretty good job with the French parts!
thank you!! i was afraid i was absolutely destroying the language lol
definitivamente quero ouvir suas teorias sobre a terceira temporada quando lançar!! amei o vídeo
estarei fazendo vídeo então!! obrigada amg ♡
I really want there to be a supernatural element but I'm almost positive it will all end up being more grounded.
i personally think its going to be left up for interpretation
quase comentei em ingles mas a diva é brasileiraaa! o algoritmo arrasou com essa recomendação!! estou chocada que não tem milhares de visualizações! a qualidade do video está impecável! (e a thai virando crente kakkakak gritei)
omg muito obrigada!! amei que o youtube finalmente fez seu trabalho e recomendou meu vídeo e ainda pra vários brasileiros SJSJSJSJS muito obrigada mesmo!! fico feliz que tenha gostado do vídeo
I think it's always going to be kept ambiguous and that's kinda what makes the show so interesting! There are definitely parts that lean supernatural but it's always with a sliver of deniability. They can't escape the wild necessarily because of the supernatural but because of the trauma that stuck with them
i totally agree! the whole point is the ambiguity
I can’t speak for all language classes in the U.S., but I took ASL in high school and it was complete immersion. We learned 20 words a week usually as part of a themed unit like introductions, daily routine, or medical. As part of the medical unit we learned terms like injury, pain, and blood. It is totally possible that she learned that word in school.
yeah i think you're right, i also think i remember learning the word blood while learning about body parts in english class? so again there's definitely a chance she's learnt it in school. thank you for commenting your perspective!!
I started extremely opposed to supernatural anything. But as time passes the idea of them being in some sort of otherworldly limbo with a cabin sort of fascinates me.
laura lee seeing leonard burning is a vision i think
Thank you for this you’re voice and aesthetic is perfect, I want more deep dives on Yellowjackets so bad I want to obsess over our snack packs
help i thought the tv was a bulletin board😭😭
it was the goal lol i didn't have a bulletin board so i had to improvse 😭
I think in terms of Lottie speaking French, while I don't go to school in the US, the sentences used are plausible for a highschool student to construct. Jackie is in the same french class as her and was able to translate a good bit of it so I doubt it was completely out of the realm of something Lottie could know. There could be other factors too like how Lottie is richer compared to the rest of the girls and could probably have extra tutors or something and pretends to be as bad at french as Jackie to not stick out. Or maybe she just memorised a specific set of vocab words better than Jackie. Or she may have really been possessed since she is more intuitive and easier to commune with than the others from a supernatural standpoint. It's all subjective. I'm personally fine with the show going either way on the supernatural or not debate. I'll love whatever they decide lol.
i think these points all make sense, i didn't point out any ways lottie could have known french because i wanted to stick with exactly they said about her french skills, but again your ideas as of why she would be able to say those things make a lot of sense! i'm super interested to see where they'll take the supernatural/rational thing going forward too
Honestly these girlies did not deserve Jackie. Loved your video! And your voice is so cute love listening to you talk 😊
thank you so much! and yes poor jackie lol the only generally sane person in the group... (i also find her death so tragic
I appreciate the commitment to speaking french while not knowing how to speak french
im commiting to the bit 🙏🏻
You have such a fun personality!! What a great video! Very insightful and well thought out. The supernatural vs rational debate is one of my favourite parts of yellowjackets. I don't prefer one over the other, I really like not knowing the answer and finding clues for both arguments.
I agree about season 2. I still LOVED it but I'm hoping season 3 is more cohesive. I'm praying they do something interesting with Walter to justify his existence because he feels like a waste of screentime to me. Adult Misty was so fun in season 1 and a big part of that was her playing off of Nat (and Jessica Roberts) as a sort of odd couple.
thank you so much!! i also hope season 3 will be more cohesive and that walter's existence will be more justified. i like his dynamic with misty ok but his existence for now has felt pretty forced
LOVE THE MISTY SERIAL KILLER THEORY
i think im still team ‘it wasnt real but it was real to them’
I never subscribe to people but you have a delightful energy and great quality content. I can’t believe you don’t have more subs !! Keep it up
oh wow what a nice comment thank you so much!!
This girl is so awkward its actually endearing
I loved this! You got my subscription. This is the first time watching your channel, and I love how you explained things and your personality is awesome!
I really like your theory on Misty being a serial killer. I never thought about it from that angle, but boy does it make sense!
thank you so much! im glad you liked the video!! ♡♡
im glad my serial killer misty theory made sense as well!!
been thinking about this so much! personally i think i’d prefer if it turns out to not be supernatural and that these things are all due to trauma/human nature/primal urges etc i think that would be so cool but i’m excited to see what they do w it either way!!
8:00 actually Lisa calls her charlotte along with the rest of her cult followers
yeah you're right!! i think i meant in the teen timeline no one calls her charlotte but they do in her present time cult 😭 again thank you for letting me know!! ♡
@@jojoojojoj ok ur right haha I see what you mean!
my youtube knows me so well im so locked in
i’ve already left a comment on this video but i feel it is my duty to explain the concept of “dibs”. calling dibs is basically claiming something you don’t already have. if there was a pizza with only one slice left, and you were all the way across the room, you can shout out “dibs” and even if someone else gets there first, that slice of pizza is yours. natalie didn’t literally “call dibs” on travis, but since everyone knew she liked him, a good friend would treat it like she had “claimed” him and wouldn’t pursue anything with him even after they had broken up.
the immediate chuu meme insert. i'm hooked.
we love chuu in this household
stan loona!
4:41 Shauna is my favourite character aswell because she seems pretty ruthless and I feel like we’re gon see that happening more next season and if you’ve seen the s3 trailer it looks like she is going to take control of the group
10:55 I also think akilah has become the doctor of the group so it’d be critical if she died aswell although misty seems to also be taking up that role so maybe not, the theories that the main characters with roles for the group won’t die makes sense like Shauna is the butcher she’s needed and alive, same as the hunters Nat and travis very important and alive, misty possibly the groups medic, alive, Lottie the “prophet” Alive and then van and tai im not sure what there roles are in the group tbh maybe there the belief voices like van is full Lottie beliefs and tai is complete opposite it’s all logical so not sure but they’re alive and then Mari or akilah one of which will survive but I have a feeling it’ll be akilah because like I said she has also taken on the medic role when it came to van and Shauna. Mari doesn’t seem to have any role so I dont know why she’d survive other than maybe her role is the cook since she does cook all the food, but that’s not that hard to do. Misty, Van, tai or even Lottie can cook the food it’s not a specific skill only Mari has so she’s really not that needed
35:05 speaking of dark tai I saw a theory which makes sense to me someone said that “dark tai” is actually the real tai who’s trying to guide this version of her because she’s trapped somehow that’s why “dark tai” (real tai) always loves van and trusts her so much and eats the bodies to keep her alive plus in the future “dark tai” (real tai) makes the other tai go back to van because she needs her I honestly think it makes sense that the “awake tai” we see is actually dark tai who just has the most control in the wilderness whilst the real tai is now trapped and can only “come out” when she’s “asleep” or when it’s a traumatic moment. (This is just a theory the first 2 are what I think will happen and this last one is just an idea lol I think it’s probably not going to be true like the tai we see probably is the real tai but this theory I saw makes sense so you never know)
1:14:01 calls on dibs basically means claimed so Jackie was basically saying Natalie can’t claim him it doesn’t matter
i unfortunately don't think akilah will live 😭 giving her a baby nephew was such an easy way to make us sad about her potential death lol and yeah there's misty who's also assuming the role of medic, so unfortunately i don't think we have much time with akilah left
@ I actually think pit girl will be gen because I saw some bts pictures and it was of the pit girl mannequin and they gave her bangs (a fringe) and the mannequin looked very similar to gen more than Mari, I also am not attached to Mari her character doesn’t make me feel anyway towards her lol I think if the girls ate her it would be better lol since she brings nothing special
To apaixonada! Seu inglês é muito bom e os seus vídeos também 🥺💕 com certeza vou maratonar 😁
amg muito muito obrigada 🥺💞💞 espero que você goste dos meus outros vídeos!! ♡
Criminal that I'm the first comment ngl 🥲👍 great video x
thank you so much!! ♡
canadian 90s/2000s kid here, calling dibs is like saying 'its mine' but it's like unarguable. if you call dibs it's treated as like sacred amongst other kids who used dibs. just the way the kids would claim stuff, I think this highlights how young they really are in the show (on top of dating it in the 90s)
This is a great video, thank you for articulating your points so well! It's clear that you are very intelligent and think a lot about your interests. I get the same way when I get fixed on something.
Thanks for the video
thank you so much for such a nice comment!!
i'm a simple girl i see someone talk about yellowjackets for over an hour and i must click.. a lovely video in anticipation of s3 :] also loveee to see a shauna enjoyer #ShipmanApologistForLife
yes forever a shauna shipman apologist!!
honestly part of me thinks we're never going to get a concrete answer
I think the show is actually still playing with the idea of whether or not Lottie is TRULY sick. While she is doing things like having conversations with no one and visions, these aren’t inherently schizophrenia conditions, rather repeated visions of the same thing or audial hallucinations are. She sees different things constantly, therefore she truly can’t have schizophrenia
you're right! although van calls lottie schizophrenic, we don't necessarily have to take that as the ultimate truth and there's still some room for ambiguity
@ to me it feels like yet again the group prescribing blame to her, Misty says she’s the reason they start eating people, The Exposition didn’t go well and Lottie knew therefore she is put into higher power, Lottie doesn’t need a gun compared to Nat. The group have such a misinterpreted view of Lottie as a Jesus figure they can both be saved by but also put their internal blame on, not just the wilderness.
I was finally able to convince my gf to watch it it me! She was apprehensive because of the gore and overall theme but she did come to the decision on her own. After I talked her ears off for weeks about it she was interested enough and now she's obsessed too LOL
im glad you're spreading the word of yellowjackets 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 soon we'll have everyone obsessed!!
finalmente alguém do Brasil falando sobre yellowjackets !!
yellowjackets vai tomar conta do país !!!!!!!!!!
i took german in a US middle and high school. by german 2, the second full year of the class, we weren’t allowed to speak english at all in class by the second half of the school year. at the beginning of that year we were expected to at least try to say everything we wanted to say in german with few exceptions. i don’t think it’s a stretch to think that lottie learned words like blood in class, given that jackie, who was in the same class, was able to translate what lottie was saying.
you're right lol jackie understands a bit too! so they probably learnt it in class. thank you for the perspective!! (also it seems to be pretty efficient to do a full immersion class, i don't think i had those in my foregin language [english and spanish] classes in school - maybe that's why i don't remember any spanish at all lol)
calling dibs means like claiming that thing or person as yours. it’s normally used if two people are interested in the same thing, one person will say “i call dibs” and it means they claim that thing first. It’s used claim the front seat of a car and to claim the first chance to flirt with an attractive person. kinda confusing now that i think about it haha.
thank you for the explanation and for the examples too!!
Part of me hopes that it isn't supernatural; I think it's more interesting for their characters if it's just a study on how people behave without civilization. I know other media has done that before but I like what they're doing with this show and I don't want it to get lost in an extra complicated supernatural plot. I think making it too supernatural makes me not take the show as seriously; I like the ambiguous nature of some of the scenes but I'd be dissapointed if they took it fully supernatural. Middle ground teetering towards psychological is perfect in my opinion.
i agree! but i like this ambiguity the show is keeping. one of my best friends is a psych student and i love hearing her thoughts about the show through the rational viewpoint. i'm interested to see where they'll take things though
new subscriber here! i agree with the part about lottie speaking french but i think the show leaves it open to theories all the time if it's all supernatural or not (the duality u mentioned), which is entertaining for the audience. i personally prefer the non supernatural theory, either by collective hallucination or contaminated water (this would explain the sick animals too) but the whole taissa arc is very bizarre!
and i think the reason why misty misses her time in the wilderness is because that was when she felt most needed, most useful - but i got intrigued about the serial killer theory!
not so related but i'm adept of the theory that van set the cabin on fire and i think the show will relate her to fire more, after she almost burned to death twice! the trailer for the new season shows a match in the reflection of her eyes somewhere that looks like a house soooo...
eu não sei porque escrevi esse comentário todo em inglês mas ótimo vídeo! ‧˚ ( • ﻌ • )
i hadn't heard the contamined water theory but it also makes a lot of sense! and you're right about misty too. when it comes to van burning down the cabin, i find this super interesting and i like all the fire stuff relating to her so i just find this idea kind of fascinating. i'd love to see this subversion of expectation since we are all thinking coach scott was the one who did it.
omg e eu respondi o comentário todo em inglês haha muito obrigada!!
About the word “maigre” (I forget the spelling tbh), I definitely learned that word in high school French. Like you mentioned about Portuguese, maigre can mean physically thin in French, but I also learned it can mean thin as in frail or weak. It’s a much more common word in French than the word “meager” in English. A more accurate translation in Lottie’s dialogue would be “the gifts were too weak”. As someone who took high school French over a decade ago, I feel pretty confident that someone who was currently taking senior level French classes would be able to put those sentences together.
That said I’m pro-supernatural interpretations and I do think she was possessed in that scene lol
thank you for the insight! i was wondering about the sentences because they are in different verbal tenses, so i didn't know if she would have studied enough to know how to put them together that way
Agree alot with your sentiment about season 2. I think the most interesting character going into s3 re: belief or disbelief in the supernatural or lottie's cult in general will be shauna
shauna is a fascinating character in general, i'm interested to see where they'll take her in season 3
This was a great deep dive
thank you!! ♡
I love that you did this video (hi I'm new here)
I'm not team supernatural or team natural, I'm team "how could it be supernaturally explained, can it be naturally explained?"
I also question the fact I love Shauna and I also think it's because ML was one of my big crushes..
My question is, what was it that made you crush on Melanie Lynsky and was it Heavenly Creatures? Cause same.
Thanks for this. 💜
I also want to add, because it's the Yellowjackets hill I will die on.
Jeff didn't send the postcards, and I'll explain why.
When Shauna confronts him about the blackmail, he says something like "I thought Taissa, maybe Nat" in reference to getting money out of Shaunas friends. He doesn't mention Misty and Misty, Nat and Taissa received postcards.
Jeff sent the texts, Jeff didn't send the postcards.
thank you so much for the comment! i like your perspective on the situation, my friend who's also recently watched yellowjackets was interesting it through a similar lens. my crush on melanie lynskey began with ever after 1998 actually! then it grew with other stuff i watched that she acted in. i totally understand yours beginning with heavenly creatures (same for kate winslet)
and yeah you're completely right! im super excited to see who actually sent the postcards, i hope we get some clues in season 3
@@jojoojojojdefinitely also Kate Winslet 😁💜
US language classes are not very rigorous, most high schools will have you take 2 courses to satisfy graduation requirements. Some students go on and take more challenging classes that could give you a great foundation, and end up being able to write a basic 5 paragraph essay in the foreign language or speak conversationally given the practice. Most people i know educated in the US will always say " i took french/spanish in high school, but i don’t remember much " then spout out a random sentence/phrase in a terrible accent
yeah i see a lot of people saying they took certain languages classes and then not really knowing much so that's why i was curious to see if there was a way for lottie to have actually learnt that
“Snackie” is diabolical 💀💀💀
Hi! Such a great video :) you mentioned that you aren’t/weren’t sure what “call dibs” means so I thought I could help. To call dibs on something means to claim something as yours. Most commonly it’s used by children to get the best seat or toy ect. But you can call dibs on anything you may want
thank you so much!! i still hadn't looked it up and your explanation was really good!!
it’s so cute 25:48 when you’re saying sorry for allegedly speaking bad french 🤭
yaaaay yellow jackets on main
Great vid, I'm team supernatural, but the show runners said they'll keep that debate ambiguous 🤷♂️
I feel like the wilderness brought me to this chan 🙂 because I've been listening to Rosinha de Valenco & Sylvia Telles- Consolacao, Samba Torto 🇧🇷
Lottie and Laura Lee are my favourite ship. Love Lottielee lol
letting my sister know she's not alone lol
just so u know "calling dibs" is kind of like claiming something or someone for yourself before anyone else does. so nat "called dibs" on travis by sort of dating him.
before i continue watching this vid im native and my mom said that she thinks the white moose was a spirit and i think so too
wait you're brazilian? hiiii
sou sim oiii
you’re literally the daughter of laura lee and billie eilish. also i’m portuguese too but from portugal
i don't see it at all but i'll take it as a compliment because i find them both very beautiful hahaha
Rorschach is pronounced "roar shock". It's that psychological test where the guy shows you a blob on a page and you tell him if it looks like a butterfly or two bears high fiving.
i looked it up what it was before recording but i forgot to look up the pronnunciation lol
@jojoojojoj your video was great and your English is fantastic!
Actually the reason Jackie sleeps with Travis is because she wants to prove to Shauna what she did with Jeff was wrong and also wants to be on the same page as Shauna who has already lost her virginity. I believe she was also a realist and did know they were not going to be saved anytime soon.
yeah i oversimplified her motivations a lot in that sentence lol
Do we know where their flight was originally heading? Cause I wanna know why they were in my country lol. Unless they were flying to Alaska it seems strange the plane crashed in Canada for a US NATIONAL tournament.
I'm just curious about that
i think they mention, or i read somewhere, that the plane ended up flying way more towards the north than it should have (?) they were going from new jersey to seattle
You lowkey could be max verstappens sibling (this is a complement he is very attractive)
yeah i see the resemblance in the white of the eye /s (thank you though!!
@@jojoojojojLMAOOOOOOOO also loved the video!!! Im so excited for season 3 and looking forward to your follow up video!!
Just starting the video and love it already. We do see ppl call Lottie Charlotte but its only pll from her cult in present timeline.
Edit: Aah vc é brasileiraa kkk
A Misty concerteza é serial killer, eu acho q algo que me deu mt certeza disso é a conversa dela com o walter antes dela ir pro culto da lottie. Mas tem mts sinais pra n ser. Eu acho que ela ia matar o cara q saiu com ela no primeiro ep se a Natalie n tivesse aparecido.
verdade!! tem muitas cenas que literalmente só dá pra explicar com a misty sendo serial killer
e isso do nome da lottie foi mania minha de fugir do roteiro porque eu tinha escrito que ninguém chama ela de charlotte na timeline de 1996 mas minha cabeça me fez dizer na série toda 😭😭😭 o tonguisse
I also love shauna and misty even though I shouldn't misty is my baby girl 😭💗
yellowjackets isn't a show about our favorite good people after all, it's about our favorite cannibals lol
@@jojoojojoj you're so right 😂
Lmao @ the French numbers part. They're normal from 0-69, but then it gets crazy.
It goes sixty nine, sixty ten (70), sixty eleven (71),...[72-78], sixty nineteen(79), four twenty(80), four twenty one(81), four twenty two(82),....[83-88], four twenty nine(89), four twenty ten(90), four twenty eleven(91),....[92-98], four twenty nineteen(99), hundred.
Its so wild.
Also you were right the second time: ici rhymes with "see see".
And etaient is pronounced the same GOD FORSAKEN WAY as Eté, etais and etait! 😡
I can speak French but i can no longer write in French to save my life because you pronounce everything the same way but spell it differently.
É = like Hey, okay, may, gay
Ai = the same
Ais = the same lmao
Ait = the same ugh
Aient = the same, okay fuck that 😑
yeah you have to do math to say the numbers???? no thank you (to be fair i also struggled with some numbers in english, like "12 hundred". why not say "1 thousand and 2 hundred"??? [i mean i understand why lol but it was difficult for me to learn])
also i don't know why i pronnounced ici like it was italian out of nowhere
Meu Deus, ela é brasileira😮
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brasil campeão do mundo!!!!🥳
eu amo
Can I watch this video without knowing anything about yellowjackets? Because I will!
se tu visse o vídeo tu ia saber que sim
@@jojoojojoj estou no minuto 2 amor tenha calma
perdão te xinguei e tu me chamou de amor...
@@jojoojojoj nossa dinâmica é meio que essa mesma, a gente fica invertendo os papéis!
51:20 encouraging? egging on? inciting? acho q algo assim
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girly pop, all you had to do was say you were home alone for four days straight and you have a follower.