How to Play Street Dice: Street Craps
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
- How to Play Street Dice: Street Craps is a great way to play the game of craps. No need for the casino, table, or fancy layout, just some cash and a set of dice. There are a lot of similarities between street craps and casino craps. The dice game basically revolves around the familiar pass & don't pass bets that is found in casino craps.
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When you brought up fair side bets, that's where your video really starts to shine and set itself apart from all the other guides. Really helpful tips about the dice odds and payouts!
Yeah, but not really how street dice is played. Fair is not part of game ha
@@ColorUp idk who he been shooting with but I shot dice on the corner and in jail. What he's talking is gonna get him beat up and robbed
if yu think abt it if yu is in the streets they aint no fair.. money is money yo
Yea but that ain’t gon work on the streets
This is where the hustlin is done. Those who know take advantage of side bet odds.
No tutorial on street games is complete without covering
1. Cheaters-and how to spot them
2. Cheats-what are the most common ones in each type of game, what are the potentially most costly ones
3. Personal safety-detecting potential for violence and danger signs you're about to get robbed.
4. Law-street games are illegal everywhere, but enforcement of laws vary from location to location and also based on the dollar amount being gambled. A friendly game between friends is one thing, but you're in a different league entirely when you're playing with (and against) strangers who are very likely degenerates, con artists, violent criminals, or all of the above.
How do you spot cheaters
Great questions, would you like to elaborate on them?
@@averagejoe17769 most obvious would probably be spoofing numbers, moving fast. like at 2:39 he called a 7 when it was 6
Hahaha you nailed it. 😆
4: That describes most of the marine corps
Warning: When playing this game with others make sure to pack your heat with you cause some a dem don't play fair
Craps games get robbed every day B
😆 right. I'm one of them. Either I'll rob yo azz after the game when you leave or I 'll do it in front of everyone at the dice game.
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@@field31 Funny thing is I straight up believe you.
@@field31 😂😂
We used to play this for many years - I finally built a nice craps table just for this game. It was so much fun! We had 10 to 12 people playing, there were hundreds of dollars flowing!
this only shows 2 person play , how does the betting work with a group ?
@@numbat0072 GREAT question!!!!!
@@numbat0072 2 people play as normal but any person can take a side bet you can have loads of side bets going at once it's just hard to keep track of
That's how I got started. Playing on the corner of my sister's apartment at the age of 17
Started age 7
I came out of the womb rolling and then I rolled my dice 🎲
@@lilll5155 dang bro you're a hustler
You must be an outstanding person. Cheers!
This casino and online card games only w the homies and shit I count my
Money and slots lottos and betting is whole other solo strategy
keep adding more street craps videos please. Speaking to both casino and street players is great for the whole community to learn and play.
Not sure what else to cover about the street, plus I just don’t have the experience to share properly
@@ColorUp I would say invite some people to play that have the experience so it could give more insight or perspective on play.
I think he pretty much nailed everything there was lol @@onewaystreet79
It’s great to teach people how to hang out, drink malt liquor on the corner, or park and play dice? How? Lol…
It’s hells dangerous, and you might loose your life for a few bucks that some crack head used to snort or shoot crap.
@@user-bm5ih8qs4q I feel bad for how hard you tried there.
I learned this from a man named Leonard Washington. And he don't get buck naked for nobody.
And if you want his roll you gone have to shoot em
I prefer Ashy Larry
Where is he from?
I heard he from none of yo damn business
@@ddsmitty1 He’s from the WISH A MF WOODS it’s a small friendly retirement town
Continuing to play it over many rounds to demonstrate how it works in practice was a great teaching strategy. I think you've done this before, heh.
That is how I learned to play craps!! I played street craps when I was in the Army and I learned to play the seven and carried it on until now!! I am overall a "Darksider" when I play!!
whats a darksider?
@MrJRamos-ei2xv A "dark sider" is one that bets against the shooter. In other words a "dark sider" bets that the seven will show up before the point will.
You made it so simple, now I know how to play!👍🏾
You may be the next statistic, congrats!
Long time ago while drilling oil well in TX the rig was down a while. The roughnecks had a craps game where everybody anted up. 7 or 11 won and craps resulted in a lost turn. The dice passed to the left. A player had 2 chances to hit the point but could "chance it" one time w another ante. Rules changed constantly as we voted and the rule was written on a blackboard. Say the rule was that if a 4 rolled (not the point) the dude to the right had to put another ante in. The 5, dude on the left and so on. The pot got huge fast as there were about 10 men playing.
your missing the cardboard box lol. keep up the great content!
I love this! I have always wondered how it was played. Game on!
Now you know, Yay! now go to your local ghetto, find your local drug dealer and challenge him to a game!
In order to calculate the combined odds of winning or losing on the first roll and in the point rounds, we'll need to break it down a bit. Let's start with the odds on the first roll:
Winning on the first roll (rolling a 7 or 11): 8/36 = 2/9 ≈ 22.22%.
Losing on the first roll (rolling a 2, 3, or 12): 4/36 = 1/9 ≈ 11.11%.
The remaining chance (66.67%) is that the shooter rolls a point number (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10). If this happens, the game continues, and the shooter will keep rolling until they roll their point again (a win) or roll a 7 (a loss).
Here are the probabilities of winning or losing during the point rounds, based on what the point is:
For points of 4 or 10, there are 3 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations (for a 7). This gives a win probability of 3/9 = 1/3 ≈ 33.33% and a loss probability of 2/3 ≈ 66.67%.
For points of 5 or 9, there are 4 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations. This gives a win probability of 4/10 = 40% and a loss probability of 60%.
For points of 6 or 8, there are 5 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations. This gives a win probability of 5/11 ≈ 45.45% and a loss probability of 55.55%.
Now, we need to adjust these probabilities based on the likelihood of each point being rolled:
The shooter rolls a 4 or 10: 6/36 = 1/6 of the time.
The shooter rolls a 5 or 9: 8/36 = 2/9 of the time.
The shooter rolls a 6 or 8: 10/36 = 5/18 of the time.
So, combining these:
The probability of winning after the first roll is 22.22% + (1/6 * 33.33%) + (2/9 * 40%) + (5/18 * 45.45%) ≈ 49.29%.
The probability of losing after the first roll is 11.11% + (1/6 * 66.67%) + (2/9 * 60%) + (5/18 * 55.55%) ≈ 50.71%.
So in a game of street craps, the shooter has roughly a 49.29% chance of winning and a 50.71% chance of losing over the course of the game, starting with the first roll and including any necessary point rounds.
this deserves more likes and comments. this is the real game here
Bringing me back to my High School days. Great video Jeremy!
Great channel
Thanks for showing this. My grandpa used to play street craps in the alleys of NYC
Very cool!
Did he ever get robbed?
Didn't hear about him getting robbed. Haha He only played the 6 & 8. As kids they got gambling money at the train stations finding change people dropped reaching in their pockets. Some of it was in hard to reach places like floor drains or vents. Apparently they used a stick with bubble gum on the end to get more $$$
Thanks for this video, I remember looking street craps up a few years ago and the videos weren't good. This was an excellent tutorial.
Awesome job on talking about the odds with side bets. Most people don't talk about that
"Ashy Larry, Marcy Projects, Marcy son what"
"I bought my momma a car, I spent the rest on PCP" - Grits n Gravy
"You want this roll, ******, then you have to shoot me."
"Ok."
*B a n g*
“And just like that, the game gets robbed”
“I gotta say I saw this coming from a mile away. Thats why I hid my car keys up my ass”
“I stole this money out my girls purse. She thinks i’m taking out the trash.”
@@JasonNH"Loves his mama, loves PCP". That quote from grits is my fav Chappelle show line, probably.
“7em! 7em! 7em!” (Eddie Griffin Vc
“You are the got damn devil” (Dave Chappelle Vc) 🤣😂🤣😂
Found this channel awhile back. I live a lil north of denver. And it has inspired me to play and actually come up and win a lot of money in Blackhawk. I was never the gambling type. But color up made me look at it all from a totally different viewpoint.
Good stuff
You might be one of the only smarts in the comments, this content hot soccer moms pulling up to the game (right before they’re carjacked).
Side betting both numbers:
Crap number for 4 and 10 is 7
Crap numbers for 5 and 9 is 7, 11
Crap numbers for 6 and 8 is 2, 3, 12, 7
The dice have odds but they do what they wanna do. I've seen niggas eat betting 10 or 4
Thanx !
IMPORTANT: Play with people you trust!!
this right before takeoff died damn
counts for every game where real money is involved
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@@moneymakindot3056 💀
Most people should just go to the boat
Heh I'm not a big gamer, but I like anything involving applied math, and there is a ton of applied math when it comes to dice games. Or any game of chance. But I'm a fan of dice. You've got the geometry of the dice themselves, especially non-cubic dice. They tend to have very interesting shapes, mathematically. Then there's the obvious statistics. Especially if you're using 2 dice. A lot of people don't think that it's easier to roll a 7 than a 2. That sorta thing. I've always enjoyed engineering, especially electronics more. So I've never been big into statistics, but I think I've just found a practical way for me to get into statistics. I guess I've learned a little bit about statistics, like about the properties of what makes a sequence random. Which it turns out are the complete opposite of what we think it is. There are lots of great videos explaining this.
My fav episode of the wire is when Prez teaches the class about percentages and uses dice as a learning method 🤣. Then Randy takes a whole dice game down with the method he learned.✊🏿
And btw I just farted
I used to play a game similar to that when we were kids. we called it Silo.
Spelt Cee-lo
Real good stuff. The book 'Scarne on Dice' goes into this stuff in great detail.
Never pick the dice up first, when you just won. Get yo money
My dad would play this with me as a kid with monopoly money. His rule was if he hit the point then he wins and if he rolls a 7 then I lose. This makes more sense.
I always kinda wondered(and still do) how do they (in movies anyway..) have like 8-10 people gathered around, and appear to be all tossing money around like a real craps table… but theres like, no way to keep track of what anyone is betting on…. How can this many people be “playing” the game..?
Also after a point is established the bet doubles. Thats what they mean by 1 and 1 more, 10 and 10 more. 10 to establish the point and 10 after the point. Makes a $40 main. There are always 2 people in the main. The shooter and the fade. After losing the shooter becomes the fade and the fade rotate out the main while the next in line becomes the shooter.
a good side bet should have more action, we would always take sister numbers, like you get the 6 for $5, and I'll take the 8 for $5. If the point or big red is hit before with number we double the side bet. play goes like that til the side bet is resolved. A larger side bet is uptown against downtown. If you want bigger swings side bets can go to hardway combinations or 2/12.
Cool, if I ever get into a hood situation I'll know how to play lol.
Lmao 😂
This man gonna get you beat up and robbed, trust me
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Y I’m here yo
That brick 🧱 in the perfect spot lol
I can see it now... in every casino across the US there's gonna be a replica of Color Up's chimney and carpet as the new table game called "Street craps." The progressive for the jackpot bonus is already growing!
LOL!!!
Right!
im terrible lol i've been rolling up to parties with a pair of dice in my pocket for years. fun game
Played many times tailgating in between cornhole games (with wagers of course). Great degen times!
I just got a role in our local run of “Guys and Dolls” as “Big Jule”. I figured I should actually learn to play craps. Thanks for the info.
Break a leg!
Kool video. I grew up playing street craps with my lunch money. No win, no eat. We used to play side bets too. Example. If the shooters point was 4, the shooter would say, “I take Joe-10 for $5.00 or whatever amount (4&10) and another player would say, “I give you Joe-10” & then the bet is made. The shooter gets the 4 & 10 to win & the fader gets only the 7 to win. Then if the shooters point is 5 or 9, then the shooter would ask to take 5 & 9 or another player would say, “I give 5-9. Here the shooter gets the 5 & 9 to win and the fader gets only the 7 & 11 to win. Same thing if the point was 6 or 8. The shooter or person taking 6-8 gets the 6 & 8 to win & the fader gets the 7, the 11, & all the craps to win. All these bets were even money. Thatʻs how I learned craps growing up on Oʻahu. We played at the Bus stop, in the school bathrooms, or at a friends house. I never learned LV style craps until 1991 when I was 19yrs old at the Cal. I used my Uncleʻs old I.D. My 1st trip to LV I only used to play the big 6-8 because I felt as if this had better odds compared to how we played craps back home because you only lost with the 7 instead of the 7, the 11, & all the craps. No casinos in Oʻahu only Chicken fights where they have crap games but its played like street craps style like I mentioned above & not like how it is in LV.
yeah, thats how a lot of side bets are played, and its a really bad deal for the guy with 7. The 4 and 10 vs the 7 is a fair even money bet though. as both have 6 combos to win.
Cheeepono. One day bulleh
Damn offset...yall weren't even playing correctly.
Rest in peace Takeoff.... It's unfortunate you didn't get a chance at another Christmas.
You’re not fooling me Mr Joe Rogan 😂great video 🎲 ❤️🏆
I remember the first time I had 20 in my pocket and put it on, came out with 220 in my pocket feeling like a g.. hell yea
I was taught to pitch in south philly. Wow.. on the 1st.
They had street craps in Vegas in the summer
I sent him the world series of dice video
I watched a couple other videos about the basics and you explain it to them. At least for me anyways. Thank you
The best tutorial video of Street Craps. Thank you very much!
Glad you liked it!
@@ColorUp Dear sir, reviewing your excellent video of Street Dice, I´ve got some questions that I´d like you to help me:
* Of course you`re right: I watched other videos of street dice games and it´s very common to hear people betting "paired" side bets (10-4, 9-5 and 6-8). Due to the fact that except from 10-4 against 7 should be the only fair bet...Is there a way to "balance" the other ones (6-8 and 9-5)?.
* When you recommend to bet single numbers (and not to bet "paired" ones) in 6:18 when you bet a side bet (10) after the point (9)...I thought it was called a "come bet" and also thought the bet was 1-1 (10$ vs 10$ as an example). Am I correct?
Thanks in advance.
Daniel Rama del Castillo you balance the bets, by betting true odds money, but not typically done in street dice, and they just play 1:1. As far as the example you stated, it would not be a come bet in the traditional came because you don’t get the benefit of the 7/11 winner on the “come out” roll for that new number.
@@ColorUp Thank you very much for your help! Now I get it.
Dude don’t play with strangers.
i was gona say, how do you compete with bullets? i just read danny wynns comment, and its true, when you start winning "on the streets" one bullets ends a winning streak!
Bro I actually understand now I'm 40 n never have. Nice explanation on the side bets too I never knew that
RIP TakeOff
I always wondered what this game was about because I'm from Jacksonville Florida and I have always seen this at backyard cookouts/BBQs. Its a group of men with dice and cash and cigars, all gathered around eachother getting real rowdy. 😆 I've never seen any females play this game.
Thanks color up, im going to go up behind my local gas staion now and ask the local dice players who is trying to catch the fade ya feel me
I think it's awesome that you think people shooting street craps are concerned with making bets even. Hahahahaha! Keep up the great videos man. High quality stuff.
There are still some really big "street dice" games where the math is still king, and no one is the chump you are implying.
Hi. I really like your videos. I've been looking at videos on how to play craps. I really like your videos. Someone showed me how to play street craps. I think they do the double numbers to equal a one to one odd. For example if you bet on the six-eight (six and eight) You loose with seven, eleven, and three. If you bet the five-nine you loose with 7 and 11. If you bet the four-ten you loose with the seven or seven and two. Anyways, not sure if I'm correct, but it makes sense this way. Anyways, thank you so much for your videos, because I always wanted to learn how to play in a casino. Now I do, but still need some work. LOL
Street craps, rules vary everywhere
A Bronx tale anyone?...
Frankie coffee cake no good. I don't want his face looking at that face when he's throwing my dice!
@@byronlee8745 throw him in the bathroom..
Maybe it's different in every city, but the streets I'm from we don't play by the "Come Out" rules while waiting on a point if it lands on 7 or 11 the shooter get paid, or if it lands on 2, 3, or 12 the opponent gets paid.
Are rules are much simpler. Roll the dice wait on your point ( 2, 3 , 7, 11, 12 are not points), when you get your point, keep rolling till you hit, if it lands on 7 you crap out. Simple
How do bets work when there are multiple players? If everyone bets against the shooter and the shooter losses where does the money come from? Does he have to place more money down? Do the winners split the pot? Or do they get back what the put down? Please explain this confuses me.
Im here beause a that show the first 48 need, somone was killed over playing dice didnt know what it was, now i do thanks
2-1 bets when rolling two dice are numbers 4-5-6 or 8-9-10.
3-1 bets are rolling numbers 3-4-5 or 9-10-11.
Look at the probability chart, and divide number 36.
I might be jumping the gun, I haven't finished the video. But you also got side bets like 6/8 on either a 6 or 8 and many others like hard and soft. It's really up to your imagination or if your op wants to challenge your point, steak, etc... I spent a lot of years incarcerated playing spades, craps, cee lo, blackjack... You name it.
Color up is called Tilli, to whom shoots first and it the one with the highest number
Best explanation on YT.
Please make a video on how to play Cee Lo I like the way you explain things and theirs hardly any videos on Cee Lo 🎲🎲🎲
Just now seeing this. Great & informative video bro, THANKS!
Down here in Mississippi we each take one dice and who ever roll the highest get the roll
you forgot the last part... game gets ROBBED and POLICE show up.
It was fun getting kicked out of the 5th grade for playing craps . Thanks for a cool video.
Who here tryna understand the game after the Migos incident
Somebody was cheating
We used to play this in school all the time and mad fights broke out
Yep, the rules are not well defined. So lots of room for disagreement
I remember concrete gave the best bounce with the dice or hardwood floor. I wouldn't recommend carpet casue the dice can get stuck in the gap and not give a clear number and that can start a fight. And i remember a rule if both dice didnt bounce off the wall its an automatic loss. Not sure if thats a real rule or just in my neighborhood
Big L -- Casualties Of A Dice Game.
Also keep the tool tucked tight cause the game always gets robbed
I get the general idea but how bout when we have multiple players like 5 6 players
Its only a game of 2 or 3 people can't be Any more then that it gets to confusing
And why did you lose on that 7 in the last roll?
cause the point was 9, if it would’ve been the come out roll than yeah he would’ve won.
Cool. Thanks I've never played craps. Thanks so much looks like fun.
"to make that an even money bet, that's not a good deal"... I'd say it depends which side you're betting 😂
So funny.
I was just wondering how you play dice on the corner.
I even called it street dice not knowing it was called street dice when I looked it up.
Thanks for this educational video on playing Street dice.
in ontario canada, in the 2000's,at high school, we played 7/11 u ...hit it then another person gets to roll to match. if not they are out. doubles go again....3 doubles in a row your out...except snake eyes your out with one roll of those. so your just basically waiting for a 7 or 11 and for no one to match. could have like 3-4 players playing 5 each.
This really how u roll dice ina hood but ppl side bet 6 & 8 you can win the money off more than the 7…you can win off a 2 or 3 too
Oh my god i love that intro
So on the come out, a roll of 2, 3, and 12 lose, just like in casino craps.
But does the shooter keep the dice like in casino craps? They haven't sevened out yet, so I'm assuming yes?
Was hoping to see a 2, 3, or 12 rolled in the video on the come out roll. Didn't see one rolled, unless I missed it.
Also, question on side bets. Couldn't an equal side bet (1 to 1) be like "I'll take 5 and 6, you take 8 and 9," or even "I'll take 6 and 8, you take 3, 7, and 11"? Just so long as the odds of the rolls being made are even, you should be able to make it a 1 to 1 bet. Maybe I'm over complicating it though?
Interesting video! Might just start playing this with friends at parties after the pandemic is over.
This is one of the only craps video that I 💯 agree with 😂
Every bet he mentions, with or against the shooter, and side bets on the numbers with fair odds, is a great bet!
As long as everyone gets the same number of turns as shooter, this game is a completely FAIR game for every player, which is NOT true of craps (or any other game) in the casino, where every bet has a "house edge".
Yep, fair game
For the main bet (not the side bets), doesn't the don't player have the mathematical advantage? If I'm understanding it right, the main bet has the exact same rules as the passline bet on a regular craps table, which has a 1.41% disadvantage.
So if the don't player wins on the 12 (instead of pushes on the 12), doesn't this mean that they're basically the same as the house?
It obviously doesn't matter in the short run, and most people who play street dice probably don't care about the exact odds.
But it seems like if you played it this way for a long time and bet more when you weren't the shooter, you'd be more likely to come out ahead.
In order to calculate the combined odds of winning or losing on the first roll and in the point rounds, we'll need to break it down a bit. Let's start with the odds on the first roll:
Winning on the first roll (rolling a 7 or 11): 8/36 = 2/9 ≈ 22.22%.
Losing on the first roll (rolling a 2, 3, or 12): 4/36 = 1/9 ≈ 11.11%.
The remaining chance (66.67%) is that the shooter rolls a point number (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, or 10). If this happens, the game continues, and the shooter will keep rolling until they roll their point again (a win) or roll a 7 (a loss).
Here are the probabilities of winning or losing during the point rounds, based on what the point is:
For points of 4 or 10, there are 3 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations (for a 7). This gives a win probability of 3/9 = 1/3 ≈ 33.33% and a loss probability of 2/3 ≈ 66.67%.
For points of 5 or 9, there are 4 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations. This gives a win probability of 4/10 = 40% and a loss probability of 60%.
For points of 6 or 8, there are 5 winning combinations and 6 losing combinations. This gives a win probability of 5/11 ≈ 45.45% and a loss probability of 55.55%.
Now, we need to adjust these probabilities based on the likelihood of each point being rolled:
The shooter rolls a 4 or 10: 6/36 = 1/6 of the time.
The shooter rolls a 5 or 9: 8/36 = 2/9 of the time.
The shooter rolls a 6 or 8: 10/36 = 5/18 of the time.
So, combining these:
The probability of winning after the first roll is 22.22% + (1/6 * 33.33%) + (2/9 * 40%) + (5/18 * 45.45%) ≈ 49.29%.
The probability of losing after the first roll is 11.11% + (1/6 * 66.67%) + (2/9 * 60%) + (5/18 * 55.55%) ≈ 50.71%.
So in a game of street craps, the shooter has roughly a 49.29% chance of winning and a 50.71% chance of losing over the course of the game, starting with the first roll and including any necessary point rounds.
Love this comment. Was wondering about the math
Let's say the point is 9, and players make a side bet on the 4. The shooter rolls a 9. Does that mean the shooter wins the main pot but the side bet pot is still active? What if they make another pot and the shooter rolls a 7 on the come out roll? Does the shooter win the pot and the side bet because the 7 came out before the 4? Or are side bets off during the second come out roll?
Thank you for your video time to go finesse some people
Ya I get it on the side bets but noones gona remember the chart of how many ways u can roll a number
Both dice have to touch the wall out of your hand shooting outta the cup everything counts!! And you anti half nd bet half after a point is established
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In street craps can only one player play against the shooter? And how do you decide who gets to bet when there are multiple people in the group?
So you're more likely to win the come-out roll (winning the money), but you are often FAR more likely to lose rolls after that... (losing the money).
The thing is, you only get 1 shot at rolling the 7 with the come-out roll (the most likely number you'll roll by far, compared to the 11 or whatever). Then if you miss it, which you will, most of the time... you then gotta try and roll some other number that could be way shittier than a 7, and the other person gets to win the money with a 7.
BUT, since you keep rolling until one of the 2 numbers comes up, it's exceedingly more likely that you lose your money. Like every time the shooter lost the money here, as they statistically should.
The math just doesn't seem to make sense here... you get 1 chance to roll a 7, but they get endless chances after that (ignoring the other numbers for the moment, I'm bad at statistics).
Seems like the strat is to put out as little money as possible each time as the shooter, and hope the other guys puts out a lot of money as the shooter, and wait for him to lose more than you lose (which statistically would happen). Why would the shooter put out a load of money...
Then the side bets are just straight up equal probability betting... which is at least far more incentive to put money down. I can see why side bets are a thing. Also makes the money move quicker, rather than rolling all day. I wouldn't dabble in side bets though. I'd rather stick to the part of the game where I have much higher odds than my opponent.
Wait I missed something entirely. So you only lose the dice if you 7-out. Meaning you roll a 7 in the second half, losing the money. Otherwise you remain the shooter, over and over again (winning or losing the money in the first half). Which, doesn't seem to "fix" anything.. it would make it worse, since the shooter has it worse, so you want to get out of that as soon as you can. Seemingly.
Also the annoying complicating unequal odds craps numbers for the side-bets didn't show up here. Like, apparently:
Crap number for 4 and 10 is 7
Crap numbers for 5 and 9 is 7, 11
Crap numbers for 6 and 8 is 2, 3, 12, 7
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I think I'd change it to likkkkke:
The first half is the same (where the shooter has double the odds of winning, though it's only 1 round).
Then with the second half, you have your point number (which you hope is close to 7 in value). The other person needs you to roll a 7, for them to win the money.
But, there's only 3 rolls, to either win the bet with your own number, or for for no numbers to come up, or to lose via the other person winning with a 7. Which takes 6 rolls on average, so that's a reasonable 50% chance to have the shooter lose their own bet, WHICH is just talking about 7s and ignoring the probability of the shooter rolling their point-number (I'm bad at statistics lol).
So if no numbers are rolled (you survive), and then you as the shooter get the money that you had bet.
Maybe 4 rolls would make it more even, which is ideal. You want people to only bet a little bit of money at a time.
Yea 4 rolls. Since the shooter can win via the other player not rolling a 7, AND they can also win via rolling their point-number (which could be good or shit). So 4 rolls probably makes that even enough (plus the shooter gets 1 crack at taking the money in the first half, with better odds than the opponent).
It's likely far easier to roll a 7 in 4 turns, compared to the shit (probably) the shooter rolled earlier (their point-number).
Can also do side bets the same way. 4-10, 5-9, 6-8 (they just stay in play like usual).
Side bets can get silly though, and the odds aren't even. I think a good idea would be to have the same 3 pairings, say you do a 5-9, you then get to pick which number you are (say the 5), and the other person in the bet is then the 9. Whoever's side bet number out of 5 or 9 comes up first, gets the side bet money. Much more simple than some other ways, and the odds are the even.
That would be faster paced (not rolling all day, or almost forced to have a million side bets going), more exciting and tense... whilst keeping the same numbers and stuff as the original game.
So the first half is the same, double the odds for one roll for the shooter. Then in the second half, you see if you can make it out of the 4-roll pressure cooker alive with the money (or maybe if you rolled something decent, you might win the money before the 4 rolls are done).
I think there is enough incentive to then bet money, but not TOO much incentive.
Gonna have to experiment with it.
Too long to read, but you're getting it wrong. It's about a 50-50 chance of shooter winning or losing. To be exact, there is actually a tiny advantage of 1.41% for betting against the shooter.
But if you're concluding that there's a huge difference, then you're doing it wrong.
You're right that the shooter has the advantage on the come out roll, but he has an equal disadvantage on the point round so it evens up almost exactly.
I have done the calculation myself and come up with the same result of 1.41%, which is quoted on countless craps websites. Look up Pass Line House Edge.
Since the Pass Line is a little tricky to evaluate on a gut level, almost every craps player has the wrong idea about it and doesn't take full advantage of its low house edge.
I've tried to convince people that if they think Pass is a bad bet, then they should also think Don't Pass is a good bet. But that logic never gets through, and they insist on avoiding both Pass and Don't Pass. 🤷
Another thing that I can't convince people about is the Come bet. Most players hate the Come bet even worse than the Pass bet. My response is (1) how can you hate one more than the other? They are exactly the same. And (2) if you hate the Come bet, why don't you love the Don't Come. Same result... it doesn't get through.
how y’all write so damn much no one reading that
@@tzadiko - I didn't see your response over a year ago, and now when I read what I typed and what you typed, it all just sounds like absolute gibberish, I'm sorry lol. I'm sure I would have had an interesting response of some sort when I knew anything about craps. From memory craps was completely fucked as far as the odds go, so I wish I could just enter that previous mind-space I had lol.
@@southparkx1459 - My longer comments are primarily for myself to organise my thoughts. I am very surprised that someone responded lol (which does go against your statement in this case, plus a few likes).
I don't have that expectation and I don't care if literally anyone reads what I type, that's generally not why I'm typing.
you are correct... at least the way its explained in this video, its very bad to be the shooter, statistically
So what if u shoot a 11 after the come out round ? Then does that same rule apply too taking what’s inn the pot ? Or is that only for the come out round ???
OK, so question do you keep rolling infinitely until you win or lose or how many times do you roll before you win or lose?
I got lost at the side bet part. Who's taking the 7? The shooter or the other player?
We're playing a game and I'm shooting trying to hit the point, I say "I'm going to side bet 4" I put in $5 and you take me up on bet (you're taking the 7 in this bet) and throw in $10. Basically on a side bet, if your placing it on a number, you're hoping for that number, anybody taking you up on the bet would be taking the 7
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I’ve never played dice like that. So the way to win is whoever gets a higher number? Because the dice I know. The first roller has to hit his point.
Cee-lo is a three diced game. Big money game
Is it the same rules?
@@angusmarch1066 not exactly. There are winning combinations of dice. So if you roll a 4,5,6 you win automatically. 1,2,3 is an automatic loss. Your point is the number "not" in a pair. So if you roll 6,6, 4, your point is 4. If I roll 1,1, 6, I win. My point would be 6.
@@gprime3702 ah right. So when collecting the pot, how do you divide up the money so that everyone who won gets to make a profit if there are multiple players.
@@angusmarch1066 if I'm not mistaken, there's only 1 winner. Money gets added to the pot like poker. Games can become quite expensive fairly quickly. Ceelo is mainly an east coast game. I've played it on an app, never in person.
I got stucked in these expensive dice chocking the walls. :)
Good video what if they are weighted
Great videos! Congrats!