*OMG!* Over 30 years ago, I was DJing at a big sports/dance bar in a posh hotel in Tampa. On Sundays, they had a casino night. I loved this, because while most people watched the NFL games, the rest played the casino games, and nobody was trying to dance. So, I could throw on mix tapes I'd made, and go and gamble with the fun money. The manager was cool about it, I just wasn't allowed to win anything at the end of the night when they counted up everyone's chips to see who'd won the most. The prizes were like t-shirts and bottles of champagne. This is where and when I first learned how to play casino games. I played Blackjack mostly, but when those tables filled up, I wandered over to the Craps table and the dealer was cool enough to start teaching me the game. He also taught me either this system, or one nearly identical, and I have *_always_* been trying to remember it. The only part I could remember was that you were basically betting against yourself using the don't come bets, and playing both pass/don't pass to on the come out. But, I couldn't remember the rest! Quite often, I could turn my $10k chit into $25k or more, and of course, _dreamed_ of doing it on a real table someday (I never have). Since I've been watching your channel, I've dreamed of coming there, describing this system to Daddy-Dave, and seeing if he knew what it was and could show me again! This is *SO* cool that you showed this today! The stuff I have learned here, _especially_ about Roulette, has given me a running dream of coming to Vegas and not only meeting all of you guys in person but trying some of your strategies on real tables. I can't tell you how much joy and escape you have given me over the last few years as I took care of my Mom in her end days, along with all the nightmares of covid It was the hardest thing I've ever endured. The escape you brought me was something I looked forward to every day, and it helped me more than you will ever know. Thanks, you guys.
If and when you ever DO find yourself pulling into Vegas, do this: take every dollar you have left and put it all on Banker at Baccarat on the FIRST HAND after you sit down. You will win. But only if you bet it all.
@@blake_lively_matters6553 🤔 Hmmm ... not sure how you could possibly predict what seems like a 50/50 chance. As for betting it all on the first hand? Sounds like suicide to me. Let us all know how that works out for ya, won't you?
@@briarfox637 you get comps based on how much money and how long you play. They call this rating your play. So much money per hour gambling gets you so much money for free play, hotel rooms, food, tickets to shows, etc. 👍
You can lose. You absolutely can lose. On your 7:30 mark in time on the video: the bullfrog loses $30. Shooter comes out with Point of 8 and then immediately comes back and rolls the 8 - your down $30 on your $25 increments through the DC. I typically play a $1k on the DC having to lay $1,200 on the Dont Pass. A bullfrog can hurt you and when you look at it from a money management viewpoint; it is not worth the risk.
It Always Amuses me that on all the craps channels people seem very concerned with making the Dealer happy. Unless the dealer is bankrolling me and covering my losses the dealers happiness is Not my Goal. Dealers get Paid to Deal, if it's the minimum wage argument all i can say is "get a better job". I am Never Rude nor do I do things that are questionable such as past posting etc . While I do tip, I dislike the idea that I OWE a tip just for playing and winning. Just my personal thing. But ROLL ON !
I read a book on craps years ago by a "pro" craps player. Really he was just an older guy who spent his life in casino's. He knew how to get comps and use strategy to keep playing rather than win big. The system he used in that book was very similar to this one.
@@filippofinazzi4647 - No, but the book 'Scarne On Dice' should be required reading for anyone walking up to a Craps table with real money. He breaks everything down into bite sized bits and explains the exact math behind every bet. You can always tell who at the table has read it, and who has not. (those who haven't tend to yell 'All the Hard Ways').
I really don't know if this system works or not but I will say that this guy is a legit craps dealer. He is defintely has the craps dealer vibe down (especially the humor and mannerisms). He's the real deal. It's not for me. It's usually 2 am at the Cortez on Fremont many cocktails into my evening. The last thing my brain would be able to handle is calculating the lay odds on the DP numbers. Lol!
Daddy David has famously dealt craps for a long time, starting with quarter games with crazy action so your instincts are absolutely spot on! He’s so fun
I wished this video was a little bit longer so there would be more scenarios that could come into play. First off when they had at least three DC bets on three point numbers and they also placed $15 on 4 & 10, $20 on 5 & 9, and $24 on 6 & 8 (not shown in the video) my question is what do you do when let's say the dice rolls on a point twice again? Say i.e. 4 gets rolled before 7 out, this means that the $25 from the DC is lost but you would win $27 for the 4 being rolled (profit of $2). Now my question is do you make another DC bet of $25 to get anywhere between 2 to 3 total DC bets at any given point to get maximized return or don't rebet the DC? Now my second question is at any given moment when you're up a little from this strategy is would it make sense to press on any of the bets at all? And my last question is to protect the Pass/Don't Pass Line bet, it would be smart to bet a hard 12 as a hedge, say like a $1 minimum 12 crap bet to win $30 back to cover the possible $15 loss if a 12 gets rolled on the come out. Any other little things we should know?
In addition to the add on, I have thought seriously of ways to tweak this strategy even further. For example, after the come out roll when a point is established, you would bet on the DC with $25. Now it would make sense to cover that DC as a hedge with a C&E bet of $10 which means when the second roll happens to be an 11 then it covers the $25 with a 3:1 payout for $30. When he says you cannot lose at 7:30 that's incorrect. That's where the hedge of playing C&E would make sense to cover the initial first DC bet.
@@theadvantageplayer7777 I would rather put $2 on the (15:1)YO & forget the $5 (7:1) C&E bet. The DC bet loses when a YO is rolled, But makes $ when a Craps is rolled. I guess the C&E would be okay if You are looking for more action.
Eliminate the eye rolls and lack of comp value by just betting the pass line and then come on each roll. Then proceed with the DCs and hope you make your point. It's really 6 of one and half a dozen of the other only simpler. Also, you can increase your bets when you find a loss.
I used to play something like this, but then they changed the machine craps game(My casinos don't have live craps) and they programmed the machine so you cannot bet like that with a DC and a Place Or Buy bet. I had notified the floor manager that something was wrong with the machine and they basically told me the machine is right and any dealer would tell you that you cannot bet like this. Sad as it worked faily well for me.
I"m confused, this only works if you hit a 7 (a bit later on) or don't hit the point. If you hit the point, your pass bet won't make up for your Don't loss. So if you have a 6 or 8 point, you have a good chance of losing it seems.
You will lose your ASS playing this system. Trust me. $200 dollars in minutes. $1500 in an hour. Craps is fun with the combos and Dice thing. The hardest game to make money. Have to bet big and cover a few numbers. 7 comes out your wiped out.
Rather than annoying the dealers just put a couple bets out there for them. Most people at the table won’t be so even a minimal bet will get their help.
@@angeloftimelessdispair5473 No, they are not there to make you lose. You ARE going to lose. But if you get lucky, you’ll give them some tip money. I’ve had dealers remind me to back up my Pass Line with odds. Or they’ll advise me of the “proper” bet so when I win, I get the full bet and don’t short myself. For example, the proper bet is 6 on 6 and 8. If you bet 7 and win you don’t win anything more than if you bet 6.
@@samiam619 They literally get paid, to see you lose money. Which is why if they even think you might have been counting cards. You get the boot real hard.
@@angeloftimelessdispair5473 Majority of dealers make minimum wage hourly. They make 90% of their income based on tips, so why would they want you to lose? You're more likely to tip if you win so wanting you to lose doesn't make sense. Most dealers also don't care if you're counting cards. That's not their job, their job is to deal smooth accurate game. Their supervisors job is to catch card counters. The dealer might hint at the supervisor if you're not tipping while counting cards though.
For anyone interested look up the 3 point blender strategy. Almost exactly the same. You don't lose with a 7 and only profit when u hit the points. U do lose on a 7/11 on the dont pass/come.
Def play this on a short game… always get a hot shooter and will hit their point quickly and hence lose you DC odds bet… then you would have to win 3-4x back to back to break back even
Do you know any digital [bubble craps] or Arena craps that will accept an opening wager with Pass and Don't Pass simultaneously? I was just at GVR and they would not allow the bet.
At 5:53 and at 6:06 'shooter' rolled Ace/deuce twice with a Six in between. If he had continued with Don't Come bets , he would have picked an additional FIFTY DOLLARS. Yes? Or did I miss something? On the Color Up, Shooter made TWENTY FIVE BUCKS in twelve minutes. That extrapolates to ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE BUCKS an hour. I'm going to work on my FIFTY DOLLAR PASS/DON'T PASS cheat sheet.
This would be great for bubble craps. No dealers or other players that are all going to hate you at a regular table. Can just sit there and grind out small wins all day. You could probably minimize losses by betting the 12 for a dollar on come out. And hopping the point when you're at risk there.
Yeah, why not try that and let me know how it works out, since every bet you place has a negative expectation. (and don't give me the odds nonsense, as we both know you cannot place an odds bet unless you have a bet with a negative expectation to put it next to or behind.)
you could put a dollar on the 12 to hedge the come out roll, but it would just move the casino advantage over to the point seven where you would make 1 dollar less in profit.
When the button is off, a pass or don't pass line can be played (after that a point will pay pass line, 7 will pay don't pass, before point is made, don't pass wins 2,3 loses on 7,11 and push on 12, Pass Line wins 7,11 loses on 2,3,12. The payouts on 4,5,6,8,9,10 are more from out side to middle (4,10 pays 2 to1 because they are more rare to roll where 5,9 pays 3 to 2 and 6,8 pays 6 for 5 because they are a more common roll) It's exact opposite if you are betting for the 7. You can bet on numbers any time you want, you don't have to play the pass or don't pass. You can pull your bet's anytime, except if you played the pass line or played the Come bet. Don't pass and Don't come can be removed anytime you want, but you have the best odds if you go that route and should never remove them. Prop bet's are one time bets that you can bet anytime you want, field is a one time bet anytime you want, and hardway bets you can bet anytime you want, those will sit there until a 7 rolls out, or you hit the hardway and win, lose if the dice combination equals to the hardway bet (2,2 hardway bet 1,3 would make you lose the 2,2 because it's also equals the 4) It's easy once you see the structure of the game.
It's easy to understand once you realize that the dealer places each player's bets according to where they are standing around the table. You don't really need to know anything about the bets in the center of the table because they are all high house percentage bets and should be avoided anyway. Other than that, there is only the Pass Line, Don't Pass, Come and Don't Come (which are the exact same as Pass and Don't Pass, except they are not on the first roll, or 'Comeout' roll), then there are the box numbers (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10), which can be 'placed'. The 4 and 10 should be 'bought' though, which means that you pay 5% of your bet in order to ensure that you get paid the true odds of two to one, should the number hit. That's why this video sucks (one of the reasons) - the host tells the bettor to place $15 on the 4 and ten after they are rolled. If, then, that number were to hit, the 15 would only be paid at 9 to 5, instead of true odds of 10 to 5 (or two to one). By betting $20 instead of 15, you can then pay another dollar (5%) and get paid $40 when it hits. Odds bets are optional and casinos vary in how many multiples of your original bet are allowed to be bet as odds. Some places go as high as 100x. Others keep it low at 5x, and others still lower at what is known as 3-4-5, meaning if the point is 4 or 10, you can bet 3x odds; 5 or 9, 4x, and 6 or 8, 5x. I'm sure you understood every word of this rambling explanation. Coffee does this to me, damned instant, I made it too strong.
if you hit the point you loose your lay behind the dont. You cant do the double coverage since your dont and line are 15. If you had 25 line and dont you could effectivly do the same hedge you do with the DC and place bets though.
@@4rah46 use your first DC inbehind as insurance to start making continuous DC bets. Not needing the odds. When all numbers are covered you now have ATM machine
He is saying don’t place the number of the first dc in the behind. For instance on the last shooter He established the point of 10 Next roll he covers the DC with the $50 odds 5 is rolled Now take the odds down and don’t place the 5. If 7 hits at this point, it’s a straight push. The 5 in the behind covers the DC. Now you can you can place the new DCs in the behind. But it’s a trade off If you roll the 5 you lose the 25, if you place the 5 and do the odds on the don’t pass and roll a 10 you lose $50 There is always risk. Vince is saying risk less. TRADE OFF
The Do/Don't get's you to where you can cover the Don't Come. In this case only the 11 will take you out of the DC. If a 7 rolls while in the DC and you don't have a Don't Pass bet, it works against the strategy. The end result is 3 don't any number out of the DC, and then playing against the place bets. In this case you want to play the Do/Don't
Hey David. Great video. You guys always do an awesome job and I love watching your videos. I'm coming to Vegas in September and hope to swing by CQ. Question about something you said at minute mark 7:39: "You can only lose 5 dollars." Can you explain that? It seems to me that if the point hits you lose the whole DP odds bet so you actually lise $30. Am I not understanding something? Thanks!
I was playing craps at the Plaza just playing the inside 5-9 looking for a few hits before I start going up a unit. And I was getting weird looks, the first dealer was alright but he just kept informing me that the bets are off on the come out roll, I'm like thanks I know. maybe he thought I didn't hear him or something but the 2nd guy had a real attitude with me so much so that I asked him personally to calm down and that it's going to be just fine we're having fun. I'm not sure what his deal was because I never really had any big rolls where im pressing up and taking down a lot. Maybe just a bad day? But when I cashed out the pitboss stared me down too I won like a whole $43 dollars total or something lol I'm like ??? alright I feel like I'm not wanted in this game at all.
This is A question kind of off the subject I was at my local casino and a group of guys were cashing out a lot of chips from playing craps when was over $50,000 just wondering if they have to pay taxes on that I know you have to pay taxes if you get $1200 on a slot machine
If you cash out anything over 10,000 in chips, you will pay taxes on it in a 24 hour.... So you need to wait till the next day or you can go to a different casino in the same day and exchange chips in and Cash another 10k out that way
Unfortunately, all bets made are a separate event. That means you can’t insure any bet. Each bet either wins or loses. Placing outside numbers gives the house a huge advantage. The farther out you go the worse the odds.
Hey David, You will lose in this system when the dice does not cooperate. I played this and the bone roller made the point 6 and 8 back to back couple of times with lay odds of $30 on DP and DC with $25. FYI: When table makes lot of 6 & 8 , you will lose a lot.
Dice is plural, it means more than one die, so the correct statement would be: 'Hey David, you will lose in this system when the dice do not cooperate. You would know this if you were not a Mongoloid.
whenever the DC bet moves to a box number, he's making a slightly smaller place bet on that number, so you're protected when you roll the same number twice and rolling a lot of 6's and 8's (or any other box number) won't hurt you. you can take down the Lay Odds on DP after the DC has moved to a box number, because you no longer need that Odds bet.
Daddy David once said he got out on craps. Meaning that he was pressing or even power pressing some guy on a monster roll and made I think like $20 - $25k and hasn’t played since. That is what you play for! This ain’t that! Lol ✌️
If you mean odds, you would lay $30 in odds to win $25. If you mean place bet hedge after the DC point moves to the 6/8, $24 place bet which would win $28
When you have a DC bet and an 11 is rolled? There's the exposure. I guess a $2 C&E bet would hedge it (and eventually add up) but I can see a stick man getting very tired of me and a pit boss sending me off to the buffet to get rid of me.
Only one system- cannot lose ….. only one system is guaranteed win. Yes - positivity absolutely guaranteed MONEY - the casino has the system. Craps is fun game. In the long run everybody loses 😢except the casino.
The longer you play, the more likely you will lose... which is why for the life of me I do not understand why casinos are so afraid of $5 craps. I play with a $200 bankroll. That's all I can afford. at a $15 table, If I seven out without hitting anything, I'm leaving the table. If I hit a lot of numbers before I seven out, I'm leaving the table. Lose/lose situation for the casino. I stay WAY longer at $5 tables.
@@randallbowman2930 - For the same reason you state, I always wonder why casinos have maximum limits at their tables. For every crowd of people who come in and nickel and dime them for small wins, there will be some whale who comes in and loses 10 in a row and makes up for all the small losses. Or 12 in a row, or however many in a row it takes to break him. Even Bill Gates.
@@blake_lively_matters6553 The house needs to be able to cover potential losses. I don't think that is very complex. But your point about whales is valid. Whales throw away more than enough money to cover the casual gambler walking away with a whopping extra hundred bucks...
@@randallbowman2930 - Or a whopping extra 50. I used to have a blast with two grand, starting at one end of the AC Boardwalk and going to the other, stopping at each casino and winning $50. I forget how or why it ended, I was doing great, then woke up at home, broke.
You use $15 on the 10, $20 on the 9, what do you use on the 8 & 6? Dont come Wlhat is the amount you use when a point is made for all numbers? Make it simple for me please.
ya everywhere I've seen they block most of the hedge bets on the bubble craps. And if you play the don't pass alone then after a point is established it also won't let you make a place or buy bet on that point # either. But what it does let you do is when the don't come bet travels to a # you can buy/place that #. So for that part of this strat, you just wait for a point to get established and then run the DC bets and then keep covering them with buys on the 4,5,9,10 and place on the 6,8. This strat is sorta headed into the territory of how I play. I start with all across bets and run continuous DC bets. do a progression, up a unit on loss and after a winning session regress units or if back in profit then reset back to 1 unit again. the beauty of this is normally after a few loss rounds you catch a decent 5+ roll session and if it covers most of the numbers and gets some repeaters, especially 4 & 10 then your right back into or near profit and with this strat when you reach that point you do not regress the bets mid session, heck no all that beauty setup is already in play that's what you play it for, especially on electronic tables where you can increment by $1 that's the time to start pressing all of the buy & place bets by like $1 to $3 on each hit, absolutely awesome setup when you get on a banger of a roll.
@@UnknownScorpion I’m going to Vegas soon and was hoping to play this on bubble craps. Can you explain your strategy a little more? So $5 across ($6 on 6 & 8) what would be your DC bet amount on the continuous bets?
@@matthewclippard8680 I usually start off with other strategies and when I'm ready to regress them after some hits sometimes I switch to this continuous dc style. you just buy/place the same $ amount across the 6 box numbers and when a point is set, include the dc bet for that same amount. when your already in profit and doing this, as the numbers hit, bump up the buy or place bet by $1 or whatever your like so on a repeater they get a bit more and on red the bet is mostly covered. Your in good shape when 3+ are covered especially with 4 & 10. sometimes I get this progression up high and I'll include the horn high on the 11 and the same bet in the field, then whatever the horn and field add up to, make sure all the 5,6,8 are gonna win double the horn and field loss. you get on a banger roll like this with $25's to $50's on the bets and you'll see some wild swings in profit / deficit. keep control and know when to walk, if your revenge betting to make up losses stop & cash out it's time to take a break. Here's another one, I just got home from playing this and doubled the bankroll. start with $6 each / 36 across and power press. you treat the 4 & 10 as a pair and treat the 5,6,8,9 as a set. when 4 or 10 hit, press them $3 each. when inside hits, press the 4 inside bets $3 each. Keep pressing until new high bankroll is reached and reset the bets back to the base again. if red shows within the 1st 3 presses, I'll repeat bet, otherwise if bets were pressed higher than 3 times just start over at $6's again, cuz you gotta keep protecting that bankroll, you can't keep fighting for new bankroll high if you keep pressing away and repeating them after a loss that's a bankroll killer. good luck!
Note of contention, the small box with the 2 of you distracts from the main portion of the scree. See this a lot more lately on several channels. Ya'll are talkin' quickly and trying to follow 2 screens just becomes confusing. Otherwise nice video.
explain how you can overcome a 1.5% house advantage? Let's see your mathematical proof. Craps is a game of independent trials; the payoff structure by the house guarantees them this approximate advantage (as an average), so how does one buy shoes for $10 a pair, sell them for 9.98 and make a profit?
It is flawed to say that you can't lose. If the point comes back to back.. you lose. Also, always take percentage gain and not numbers gain. 10% is 10 % so you can start with 6000 to win 600. 10,000 to win 1000. Why limit it to 600 to win 60. It doesnt make sense if you feel you cant lose.
To avoid losing on the point being made while you lay the DP, can’t you just bet odds on the pass line? Then take them down when you’re done with laying the DP? As I type it, guess you can’t cause the risk of the 7. The lay covers the DC, so you’d lose the odds. Never mind.
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I knew a guy who developed a very similar craps strategy. He's broke and deals poker in Tunica.
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Over 30 years ago, I was DJing at a big sports/dance bar in a posh hotel in Tampa. On Sundays, they had a casino night. I loved this, because while most people watched the NFL games, the rest played the casino games, and nobody was trying to dance. So, I could throw on mix tapes I'd made, and go and gamble with the fun money. The manager was cool about it, I just wasn't allowed to win anything at the end of the night when they counted up everyone's chips to see who'd won the most. The prizes were like t-shirts and bottles of champagne.
This is where and when I first learned how to play casino games. I played Blackjack mostly, but when those tables filled up, I wandered over to the Craps table and the dealer was cool enough to start teaching me the game. He also taught me either this system, or one nearly identical, and I have *_always_* been trying to remember it. The only part I could remember was that you were basically betting against yourself using the don't come bets, and playing both pass/don't pass to on the come out. But, I couldn't remember the rest! Quite often, I could turn my $10k chit into $25k or more, and of course, _dreamed_ of doing it on a real table someday (I never have).
Since I've been watching your channel, I've dreamed of coming there, describing this system to Daddy-Dave, and seeing if he knew what it was and could show me again! This is *SO* cool that you showed this today! The stuff I have learned here, _especially_ about Roulette, has given me a running dream of coming to Vegas and not only meeting all of you guys in person but trying some of your strategies on real tables. I can't tell you how much joy and escape you have given me over the last few years as I took care of my Mom in her end days, along with all the nightmares of covid It was the hardest thing I've ever endured. The escape you brought me was something I looked forward to every day, and it helped me more than you will ever know.
Thanks, you guys.
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If and when you ever DO find yourself pulling into Vegas, do this: take every dollar you have left and put it all on Banker at Baccarat on the FIRST HAND after you sit down. You will win. But only if you bet it all.
@@blake_lively_matters6553 🤔 Hmmm ... not sure how you could possibly predict what seems like a 50/50 chance. As for betting it all on the first hand? Sounds like suicide to me. Let us all know how that works out for ya, won't you?
I love this! Especially because you can use it at a 15 dollar table!
Looks like a great system for the wife and I to play. One playing dark and one playing light. This way we both get rated 💸
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Not a lot of wives who shoot craps with their husbands out there.
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What does that mean to get rated?
@@briarfox637 you get comps based on how much money and how long you play. They call this rating your play. So much money per hour gambling gets you so much money for free play, hotel rooms, food, tickets to shows, etc. 👍
You can lose. You absolutely can lose. On your 7:30 mark in time on the video: the bullfrog loses $30. Shooter comes out with Point of 8 and then immediately comes back and rolls the 8 - your down $30 on your $25 increments through the DC. I typically play a $1k on the DC having to lay $1,200 on the Dont Pass. A bullfrog can hurt you and when you look at it from a money management viewpoint; it is not worth the risk.
It Always Amuses me that on all the craps channels people seem very concerned with making the Dealer happy. Unless the dealer is bankrolling me and covering my losses the dealers happiness is Not my Goal. Dealers get Paid to Deal, if it's the minimum wage argument all i can say is "get a better job". I am Never Rude nor do I do things that are questionable such as past posting etc . While I do tip, I dislike the idea that I OWE a tip just for playing and winning. Just my personal thing. But ROLL ON !
Exactly!!!
Have you ever been cheated by a Craps dealer?
I read a book on craps years ago by a "pro" craps player. Really he was just an older guy who spent his life in casino's. He knew how to get comps and use strategy to keep playing rather than win big. The system he used in that book was very similar to this one.
Do you remember the name of the book? Seems like a fun read
@@filippofinazzi4647 It was Beat the Craps out of the Casinos. I believe it came out in 1991. It's a good book.
@@2buxaslice Thanks
@@filippofinazzi4647 - No, but the book 'Scarne On Dice' should be required reading for anyone walking up to a Craps table with real money. He breaks everything down into bite sized bits and explains the exact math behind every bet. You can always tell who at the table has read it, and who has not. (those who haven't tend to yell 'All the Hard Ways').
@@filippofinazzi4647 The author is John Patrick
I really don't know if this system works or not but I will say that this guy is a legit craps dealer. He is defintely has the craps dealer vibe down (especially the humor and mannerisms). He's the real deal.
It's not for me. It's usually 2 am at the Cortez on Fremont many cocktails into my evening. The last thing my brain would be able to handle is calculating the lay odds on the DP numbers. Lol!
Daddy David has famously dealt craps for a long time, starting with quarter games with crazy action so your instincts are absolutely spot on! He’s so fun
Wow I love this system I can’t wait to try it!!! Thank you.
I like it, but I would like to play Black Chips, that will raise the blood pressure a bit
I wished this video was a little bit longer so there would be more scenarios that could come into play. First off when they had at least three DC bets on three point numbers and they also placed $15 on 4 & 10, $20 on 5 & 9, and $24 on 6 & 8 (not shown in the video) my question is what do you do when let's say the dice rolls on a point twice again? Say i.e. 4 gets rolled before 7 out, this means that the $25 from the DC is lost but you would win $27 for the 4 being rolled (profit of $2). Now my question is do you make another DC bet of $25 to get anywhere between 2 to 3 total DC bets at any given point to get maximized return or don't rebet the DC? Now my second question is at any given moment when you're up a little from this strategy is would it make sense to press on any of the bets at all? And my last question is to protect the Pass/Don't Pass Line bet, it would be smart to bet a hard 12 as a hedge, say like a $1 minimum 12 crap bet to win $30 back to cover the possible $15 loss if a 12 gets rolled on the come out. Any other little things we should know?
In addition to the add on, I have thought seriously of ways to tweak this strategy even further. For example, after the come out roll when a point is established, you would bet on the DC with $25. Now it would make sense to cover that DC as a hedge with a C&E bet of $10 which means when the second roll happens to be an 11 then it covers the $25 with a 3:1 payout for $30. When he says you cannot lose at 7:30 that's incorrect. That's where the hedge of playing C&E would make sense to cover the initial first DC bet.
Last question is simple, how do you adjust your strategy to a hot point shooter?
@@theadvantageplayer7777 I would rather put $2 on the (15:1)YO & forget the $5 (7:1) C&E bet. The DC bet loses when a YO is rolled, But makes $ when a Craps is rolled. I guess the C&E would be okay if You are looking for more action.
Agreed. So many factors come into play. Dice placements, setting dice, distractions like big tit waitresses. Dealers. All that plays a factor.
You helped me...thx....but once i have 3 dc 5 6 8 and my DP odd is off....can i lose?...what are the ways to lose in this system...thx again
This works with a larger bankroll. Start with $300 bets. Big profits!!
Eliminate the eye rolls and lack of comp value by just betting the pass line and then come on each roll.
Then proceed with the DCs and hope you make your point.
It's really 6 of one and half a dozen of the other only simpler.
Also, you can increase your bets when you find a loss.
You don't find the loss, the loss finds you. In fact, it's looking for you the moment you walk in the door!
@@blake_lively_matters6553 Yes, it's all about the game, BL.
This is the best system I've ever seen to not lose money
I used to play something like this, but then they changed the machine craps game(My casinos don't have live craps) and they programmed the machine so you cannot bet like that with a DC and a Place Or Buy bet. I had notified the floor manager that something was wrong with the machine and they basically told me the machine is right and any dealer would tell you that you cannot bet like this. Sad as it worked faily well for me.
The pimp for the rings right at the end is funny
Nice system
I"m confused, this only works if you hit a 7 (a bit later on) or don't hit the point. If you hit the point, your pass bet won't make up for your Don't loss. So if you have a 6 or 8 point, you have a good chance of losing it seems.
To make the complete 'hedge bet' y'all would need to take odds on the passline also.
You will lose your ASS playing this system. Trust me. $200 dollars in minutes. $1500 in an hour. Craps is fun with the combos and Dice thing. The hardest game to make money. Have to bet big and cover a few numbers. 7 comes out your wiped out.
Rather than annoying the dealers just put a couple bets out there for them. Most people at the table won’t be so even a minimal bet will get their help.
This is a perfect low roller, table minimum for the random shooters around the table. You get the dice back & you can then play your own best $$ maker
How do I do this on a $10 table?
"the dealer already hates you"... FACTS!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Isnt that part of their job, to try to make you lose?
Phuck the dealers!!! Play however you want. Or just bring someone with you to play the don't or pass. Very simple!!!
@@angeloftimelessdispair5473 No, they are not there to make you lose. You ARE going to lose. But if you get lucky, you’ll give them some tip money. I’ve had dealers remind me to back up my Pass Line with odds. Or they’ll advise me of the “proper” bet so when I win, I get the full bet and don’t short myself. For example, the proper bet is 6 on 6 and 8. If you bet 7 and win you don’t win anything more than if you bet 6.
@@samiam619 They literally get paid, to see you lose money. Which is why if they even think you might have been counting cards. You get the boot real hard.
@@angeloftimelessdispair5473 Majority of dealers make minimum wage hourly. They make 90% of their income based on tips, so why would they want you to lose? You're more likely to tip if you win so wanting you to lose doesn't make sense. Most dealers also don't care if you're counting cards. That's not their job, their job is to deal smooth accurate game. Their supervisors job is to catch card counters. The dealer might hint at the supervisor if you're not tipping while counting cards though.
For anyone interested look up the 3 point blender strategy. Almost exactly the same. You don't lose with a 7 and only profit when u hit the points. U do lose on a 7/11 on the dont pass/come.
Press's 3 point blender
Def play this on a short game… always get a hot shooter and will hit their point quickly and hence lose you DC odds bet… then you would have to win 3-4x back to back to break back even
Can you show the increments for a higher level Bet on this?
Ahh I’ll try it. But when the hot hand shows it be time to bet the tanch
Very, very close to the Patrick System… been reading his book and like the idea of this play.
If you bet $25 on the don't come bar and it goes behind the six or eight how much do you place bet in front of the six or eight
$24. That way, 7-out = +$1; 6 (or 8) = +$3.
clear as mudd
Do you know any digital [bubble craps] or Arena craps that will accept an opening wager with Pass and Don't Pass simultaneously? I was just at GVR and they would not allow the bet.
Then bring a partner with you and one bet Pass and the other Don't Pass.
bet field n come bets ! with $$$ management sense
question, on a come out roll you can have place bets working but can you have a DC working on a come out roll?
DC bets from previous rolls automatically are working. A DC bet cannot be placed until a point has been established after a comeout roll.
Holes are 12 on come out. 11 with the dc and point as he said.
String of 7s will wipe out the DC bets.
@@nicklubrino2606 - There are no such things as DC bets in a string of 7's.
@@blake_lively_matters6553 Yeah, you’re right.
would love to see this video done at a $100 Table
pit boss just shakin his head at ya the whole time
At 5:53 and at 6:06 'shooter' rolled Ace/deuce twice with a Six in between. If he had continued with Don't Come bets , he would have picked an additional FIFTY DOLLARS. Yes? Or did I miss something?
On the Color Up, Shooter made TWENTY FIVE BUCKS in twelve minutes. That extrapolates to ONE HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE BUCKS an hour.
I'm going to work on my FIFTY DOLLAR PASS/DON'T PASS cheat sheet.
If you are gonna win no matter what playing the field and hard ways could make it more fin
Whats the catch? Hitting the point with a DC ON?
Hitting the Point with DP odds, or rolling an eleven on the DC come-out would hurt
And the 11 with a DC
Good bubble craps strat to spend all day on.
Will bubble craps let you play the pass and don't?
@@YarnellCrew Not any machines that I've played
@@YarnellCrew No
@@YarnellCrew the ones I have played do. Haven’t ran into any that don’t, yet.
U can play on two diff screens n play both pass n don't
Im guessing this wont work on digital bubble craps…I seem to recall they don’t let you bet both pass and dont.
Do casinos let you play both pass and DP?
Anyway, the system makes sense if you're just looking to get a small profit every day.
They do. Although I've heard of some casino out of Vegas not let you - Dennis
@@CasinoQuest I see you with the Roronoa Zoro earings.
@@vazzed Aye! Glad someone recognized them - Dennis
Lol the Dealers refer to this as a Switzerland. Neutral.
No casino don't
How about 6 and 8 how much the lay?
What headset does David have on?
This would be great for bubble craps. No dealers or other players that are all going to hate you at a regular table. Can just sit there and grind out small wins all day. You could probably minimize losses by betting the 12 for a dollar on come out. And hopping the point when you're at risk there.
Yeah, why not try that and let me know how it works out, since every bet you place has a negative expectation. (and don't give me the odds nonsense, as we both know you cannot place an odds bet unless you have a bet with a negative expectation to put it next to or behind.)
@@blake_lively_matters6553it's OK if you don't understand casino math. Almost nobody does.
Could u do dollar on the 12 to hedge
you could put a dollar on the 12 to hedge the come out roll, but it would just move the casino advantage over to the point seven where you would make 1 dollar less in profit.
If 4-50 bucks and 5- 45 bucks how much the 6 ?
It amazes me how anyone can understand this game.
When the button is off, a pass or don't pass line can be played (after that a point will pay pass line, 7 will pay don't pass, before point is made, don't pass wins 2,3 loses on 7,11 and push on 12, Pass Line wins 7,11 loses on 2,3,12.
The payouts on 4,5,6,8,9,10 are more from out side to middle (4,10 pays 2 to1 because they are more rare to roll where 5,9 pays 3 to 2 and 6,8 pays 6 for 5 because they are a more common roll) It's exact opposite if you are betting for the 7. You can bet on numbers any time you want, you don't have to play the pass or don't pass. You can pull your bet's anytime, except if you played the pass line or played the Come bet. Don't pass and Don't come can be removed anytime you want, but you have the best odds if you go that route and should never remove them. Prop bet's are one time bets that you can bet anytime you want, field is a one time bet anytime you want, and hardway bets you can bet anytime you want, those will sit there until a 7 rolls out, or you hit the hardway and win, lose if the dice combination equals to the hardway bet (2,2 hardway bet 1,3 would make you lose the 2,2 because it's also equals the 4)
It's easy once you see the structure of the game.
It's easy to understand once you realize that the dealer places each player's bets according to where they are standing around the table. You don't really need to know anything about the bets in the center of the table because they are all high house percentage bets and should be avoided anyway. Other than that, there is only the Pass Line, Don't Pass, Come and Don't Come (which are the exact same as Pass and Don't Pass, except they are not on the first roll, or 'Comeout' roll), then there are the box numbers (4, 5, 6, 8, 9, and 10), which can be 'placed'. The 4 and 10 should be 'bought' though, which means that you pay 5% of your bet in order to ensure that you get paid the true odds of two to one, should the number hit. That's why this video sucks (one of the reasons) - the host tells the bettor to place $15 on the 4 and ten after they are rolled. If, then, that number were to hit, the 15 would only be paid at 9 to 5, instead of true odds of 10 to 5 (or two to one). By betting $20 instead of 15, you can then pay another dollar (5%) and get paid $40 when it hits. Odds bets are optional and casinos vary in how many multiples of your original bet are allowed to be bet as odds. Some places go as high as 100x. Others keep it low at 5x, and others still lower at what is known as 3-4-5, meaning if the point is 4 or 10, you can bet 3x odds; 5 or 9, 4x, and 6 or 8, 5x. I'm sure you understood every word of this rambling explanation. Coffee does this to me, damned instant, I made it too strong.
Can you do this at a $5 or $10 table
Did Dennis' head grow or did his earring shrink?
The system is interesting, but agree that it seems boring to play.
just like betting 30 straight ups on roullette. Super slow and grindy. Gets pretty boring if you dont have people to talk to.
I am trying to understand is if you hit the point will odds at still down on the don’t you loose
if you hit the point you loose your lay behind the dont. You cant do the double coverage since your dont and line are 15. If you had 25 line and dont you could effectivly do the same hedge you do with the DC and place bets though.
Tip: you don’t need DP odds to protect your DC bet when you establish a single DC inbehind
Hey Vince, you talking about Hopping the 7's? Or is there a better way to protect on a DC come-out?
@@4rah46 use your first DC inbehind as insurance to start making continuous DC bets. Not needing the odds. When all numbers are covered you now have ATM machine
You are the OG of this grind.
Wouldn't work because they're placing the number under the DC
He is saying don’t place the number of the first dc in the behind.
For instance on the last shooter
He established the point of 10
Next roll he covers the DC with the $50 odds
5 is rolled
Now take the odds down and don’t place the 5.
If 7 hits at this point, it’s a straight push.
The 5 in the behind covers the DC.
Now you can you can place the new DCs in the behind.
But it’s a trade off
If you roll the 5 you lose the 25, if you place the 5 and do the odds on the don’t pass and roll a 10 you lose $50
There is always risk. Vince is saying risk less.
TRADE OFF
Could you play this without the do/don't bets and just use the DC and the place bets?
sure as long as your not the shooter
The Do/Don't get's you to where you can cover the Don't Come. In this case only the 11 will take you out of the DC. If a 7 rolls while in the DC and you don't have a Don't Pass bet, it works against the strategy. The end result is 3 don't any number out of the DC, and then playing against the place bets. In this case you want to play the Do/Don't
The reason dealers HATE this system is because people who play it cannot win big and have no excitement to toke the dealers.
Dealers hate this system because it’s confusing for them.
@@nicklubrino2606 - Not true.
some casinos force you to play one way or the other not both line bets. are their any casinos in LV that would prohibit the do'y Don't on the line ?
I play a similar system when I go to Vegas. Haven't found a casino in Vegas yet that won't let you play the do'y Don't.
@@dbcooper9475 Thanks
Bring a friend. One plays dark side the other plays light side
A grinder system, but will certainly keep you from losing big time. Cheers!
Hey David. Great video. You guys always do an awesome job and I love watching your videos. I'm coming to Vegas in September and hope to swing by CQ. Question about something you said at minute mark 7:39: "You can only lose 5 dollars." Can you explain that? It seems to me that if the point hits you lose the whole DP odds bet so you actually lise $30. Am I not understanding something? Thanks!
Love that tip and it’s good not for the young
I was playing craps at the Plaza just playing the inside 5-9 looking for a few hits before I start going up a unit. And I was getting weird looks, the first dealer was alright but he just kept informing me that the bets are off on the come out roll, I'm like thanks I know. maybe he thought I didn't hear him or something but the 2nd guy had a real attitude with me so much so that I asked him personally to calm down and that it's going to be just fine we're having fun. I'm not sure what his deal was because I never really had any big rolls where im pressing up and taking down a lot. Maybe just a bad day? But when I cashed out the pitboss stared me down too I won like a whole $43 dollars total or something lol I'm like ??? alright I feel like I'm not wanted in this game at all.
I had a dealer complain once that he had a bad back and didn't like having to bend forward to pick up chips on such small bets.
This is A question kind of off the subject I was at my local casino and a group of guys were cashing out a lot of chips from playing craps when was over $50,000 just wondering if they have to pay taxes on that I know you have to pay taxes if you get $1200 on a slot machine
If you cash out anything over 10,000 in chips, you will pay taxes on it in a 24 hour.... So you need to wait till the next day or you can go to a different casino in the same day and exchange chips in and Cash another 10k out that way
On a $5 table I just do the single unit pass line and $32 across while keeping up the DCs behind. Not a fan of it but it's fine I guess
some casinos wont let you play both the pass and dont pass. so how does that work out
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Unfortunately, all bets made are a separate event. That means you can’t insure any bet. Each bet either wins or loses. Placing outside numbers gives the house a huge advantage. The farther out you go the worse the odds.
Hey David, You will lose in this system when the dice does not cooperate. I played this and the bone roller made the point 6 and 8 back to back couple of times with lay odds of $30 on DP and DC with $25. FYI: When table makes lot of 6 & 8 , you will lose a lot.
Dice is plural, it means more than one die, so the correct statement would be: 'Hey David, you will lose in this system when the dice do not cooperate. You would know this if you were not a Mongoloid.
whenever the DC bet moves to a box number, he's making a slightly smaller place bet on that number, so you're protected when you roll the same number twice and rolling a lot of 6's and 8's (or any other box number) won't hurt you. you can take down the Lay Odds on DP after the DC has moved to a box number, because you no longer need that Odds bet.
All 3 casinos I go to won’t let you bet come and DC with a same bet. One has to be more than the other, another casino one has to be $10 more.
CEG or someone help me!!!!!
The place bet is 5/9=$20 4/10=$15..what would 6/8 be?
24
Daddy David once said he got out on craps. Meaning that he was pressing or even power pressing some guy on a monster roll and made I think like $20 - $25k and hasn’t played since. That is what you play for! This ain’t that! Lol ✌️
How much would you lay on the 6,8 ?
If you mean odds, you would lay $30 in odds to win $25. If you mean place bet hedge after the DC point moves to the 6/8, $24 place bet which would win $28
30
When you have a DC bet and an 11 is rolled? There's the exposure. I guess a $2 C&E bet would hedge it (and eventually add up) but I can see a stick man getting very tired of me and a pit boss sending me off to the buffet to get rid of me.
Only one system- cannot lose ….. only one system is guaranteed win.
Yes - positivity absolutely guaranteed MONEY - the casino has the system.
Craps is fun game. In the long run everybody loses 😢except the casino.
The longer you play, the more likely you will lose... which is why for the life of me I do not understand why casinos are so afraid of $5 craps. I play with a $200 bankroll. That's all I can afford. at a $15 table, If I seven out without hitting anything, I'm leaving the table. If I hit a lot of numbers before I seven out, I'm leaving the table. Lose/lose situation for the casino. I stay WAY longer at $5 tables.
@@randallbowman2930 - For the same reason you state, I always wonder why casinos have maximum limits at their tables. For every crowd of people who come in and nickel and dime them for small wins, there will be some whale who comes in and loses 10 in a row and makes up for all the small losses. Or 12 in a row, or however many in a row it takes to break him. Even Bill Gates.
@@blake_lively_matters6553
The house needs to be able to cover potential losses. I don't think that is very complex.
But your point about whales is valid. Whales throw away more than enough money to cover the casual gambler walking away with a whopping extra hundred bucks...
@@randallbowman2930 - Or a whopping extra 50. I used to have a blast with two grand, starting at one end of the AC Boardwalk and going to the other, stopping at each casino and winning $50. I forget how or why it ended, I was doing great, then woke up at home, broke.
The hole is to hit a point instantly. I'm interested!
tht earring... jeezus
Great video guys
Lol I was a dealer for fifteen years and I rarely saw players try this system
You use $15 on the 10, $20 on the 9, what do you use on the 8 & 6? Dont come Wlhat is the amount you use when a point is made for all numbers? Make it simple for me please.
The bubble craps game I play on will not let you place both a pass and don't pass bet.
ya everywhere I've seen they block most of the hedge bets on the bubble craps. And if you play the don't pass alone then after a point is established it also won't let you make a place or buy bet on that point # either. But what it does let you do is when the don't come bet travels to a # you can buy/place that #. So for that part of this strat, you just wait for a point to get established and then run the DC bets and then keep covering them with buys on the 4,5,9,10 and place on the 6,8. This strat is sorta headed into the territory of how I play. I start with all across bets and run continuous DC bets. do a progression, up a unit on loss and after a winning session regress units or if back in profit then reset back to 1 unit again. the beauty of this is normally after a few loss rounds you catch a decent 5+ roll session and if it covers most of the numbers and gets some repeaters, especially 4 & 10 then your right back into or near profit and with this strat when you reach that point you do not regress the bets mid session, heck no all that beauty setup is already in play that's what you play it for, especially on electronic tables where you can increment by $1 that's the time to start pressing all of the buy & place bets by like $1 to $3 on each hit, absolutely awesome setup when you get on a banger of a roll.
@@UnknownScorpion I’m going to Vegas soon and was hoping to play this on bubble craps. Can you explain your strategy a little more? So $5 across ($6 on 6 & 8) what would be your DC bet amount on the continuous bets?
@@matthewclippard8680 I usually start off with other strategies and when I'm ready to regress them after some hits sometimes I switch to this continuous dc style. you just buy/place the same $ amount across the 6 box numbers and when a point is set, include the dc bet for that same amount. when your already in profit and doing this, as the numbers hit, bump up the buy or place bet by $1 or whatever your like so on a repeater they get a bit more and on red the bet is mostly covered. Your in good shape when 3+ are covered especially with 4 & 10. sometimes I get this progression up high and I'll include the horn high on the 11 and the same bet in the field, then whatever the horn and field add up to, make sure all the 5,6,8 are gonna win double the horn and field loss. you get on a banger roll like this with $25's to $50's on the bets and you'll see some wild swings in profit / deficit. keep control and know when to walk, if your revenge betting to make up losses stop & cash out it's time to take a break. Here's another one, I just got home from playing this and doubled the bankroll. start with $6 each / 36 across and power press. you treat the 4 & 10 as a pair and treat the 5,6,8,9 as a set. when 4 or 10 hit, press them $3 each. when inside hits, press the 4 inside bets $3 each. Keep pressing until new high bankroll is reached and reset the bets back to the base again. if red shows within the 1st 3 presses, I'll repeat bet, otherwise if bets were pressed higher than 3 times just start over at $6's again, cuz you gotta keep protecting that bankroll, you can't keep fighting for new bankroll high if you keep pressing away and repeating them after a loss that's a bankroll killer. good luck!
So can you lose or not? I don’t understand craps
Can you do this video over.
after tipping the dealer you break even after two hours at the table. nice
Go full tilt on the hard ten
correct me if I'm wrong, you can still lose when you on DC and you roll 11.
He not even catching the how many behinds can you work is that as general rule😭😭😂😂😂😂😂😂it went right over his head
I did not know that Mark Normand's dad was a Vegas craps dealer!
What if you did a 30 Don't pass with a 15 Pass and add 15 Odds on your Pass after the point?
LOOOOL you two are hilarious LOOL
lol, the first roll where he doesn't have a quarter on the DC a 3 comes up.
My casino doesn't allow me to bet the pass and dint pass at the same time
What the truck is dint pass?
Note of contention, the small box with the 2 of you distracts from the main portion of the scree. See this a lot more lately on several channels.
Ya'll are talkin' quickly and trying to follow 2 screens just becomes confusing. Otherwise nice video.
This system is an absolute EGGPLANT.
explain how you can overcome a 1.5% house advantage? Let's see your mathematical proof. Craps is a game of independent trials; the payoff structure by the house guarantees them this approximate advantage (as an average), so how does one buy shoes for $10 a pair, sell them for 9.98 and make a profit?
I’d throw $2 on the yo to cover the DC from the 11. Hitting the point would be the worst thing other than that
On the 4 or 10 you will only win 2 bucks if the point is hit if play a 2 yo you now will only break even
this sistem dont work online, because they limit the lay down money in the dont pass line
I wish bubble craps allowed this type of strategy it won't let you bet on both sides pass and don't
When I listen close to this video. I can hear the painful moans of every craps dealer in the US. lol
CAN ANYBODY FIGURE THIS OUT?
S = 1
T = 6
A = 2
B = 4
C = 5
D = 3
HOW DOES B = 3 & D = 4 AFFECT DICE ROLLS?
I do not understand the question.
Why this cant be same strategy working the come bet
After filming, they went off to keno to unwind. 😁
It is flawed to say that you can't lose. If the point comes back to back.. you lose. Also, always take percentage gain and not numbers gain. 10% is 10 % so you can start with 6000 to win 600. 10,000 to win 1000. Why limit it to 600 to win 60. It doesnt make sense if you feel you cant lose.
Back to back to back 7s will wipe out the DC bets and a yo 11.
Time is money
To avoid losing on the point being made while you lay the DP, can’t you just bet odds on the pass line? Then take them down when you’re done with laying the DP? As I type it, guess you can’t cause the risk of the 7. The lay covers the DC, so you’d lose the odds. Never mind.
Will all casinos "ZERO" you out playing this?
Thank you,
If your DC moves to the six or eight how much do you put on the place bet
$24. So the 24 would win 28, 25 DC would lose, profit of $3
@unholychaos7489 what do you put on the DP to hedge if point if 6/8