MTA defends new fare gates in subways despite people 'piggybacking' through | NBC New York

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  • Опубликовано: 19 янв 2025

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  • @ArgenisBalbuenaCordovaAj
    @ArgenisBalbuenaCordovaAj Год назад +619

    That buzzer gate is not going to do shit

    • @RantRantJoe
      @RantRantJoe Год назад +69

      You're damn right. People even smile in front of cameras doing it..

    • @Zero11_ss
      @Zero11_ss Год назад +1

      Only good gate is the vertical old iron ones on some subway stations. The rest of these designs are made by morons.

    • @DutchKing
      @DutchKing Год назад +35

      it'll make the company who supplies them some money, the guy who works for the state prob gets some kickback money.

    • @MsBadBody
      @MsBadBody Год назад +3

      Nope

    • @miles8718
      @miles8718 Год назад +19

      The only thing it'll do is make it more annoying to be around when the buzzer is going off all the time. You already see that on the Metro in DC.

  • @Marco-uj9bp
    @Marco-uj9bp Год назад +338

    It's already obvious that the new fare gates DO NOT curb fare evasion. If they did, why do there need to be 3 uniformed police officers standing around watching the gates? Officers should be patrolling the platforms and train carts for the people openly smoking, assaulting/pushing people, etc.

    • @Lumpia_In_Texas
      @Lumpia_In_Texas Год назад

      Lol democrat s hole

    • @therobpratt
      @therobpratt Год назад

      Also, NYC spent $150 million on police to catch fare evaders that added up to $104,000 in fares. Ridiculous. Make it free for everybody and tax the rich occupying those insane skyscrapers on billionaires row.

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад

      The Police have been handcuffed and made out to be public enemy number one ☝️ by the politicians that the voters of NYC continue to elect into office.

    • @JalaalElasmar
      @JalaalElasmar Год назад +6

      It’s a test. It’s not a final thing yet

    • @OgdenM
      @OgdenM Год назад +2

      These new gates probably didn't increase the fare evasion at all. The width has NOTHING to do with why people are able to get through them. If it did, people would be going in side to side... just think about it.

  • @cdchannel
    @cdchannel Год назад +1165

    It's even easier for multiple people to go through than the old ones.

    • @bernieschiff5919
      @bernieschiff5919 Год назад +51

      A poor design, high school kids can still jump over it. Gates allow multiple entries, as shown here. Sliding bars or high impact resistant glass panels could be used. A smaller version of the rotating door as used in hospitals might work but would probably restrict capacity in rush hour. Add an additional split upper bar to the existing turnstiles to stop jumpers, that might be a lower cost solution.

    • @MrVariant
      @MrVariant Год назад +18

      ​@@bernieschiff5919classic American free rider problem 😂

    • @NycBeauty
      @NycBeauty Год назад +43

      Terrible design. Who approved of this ? SMH

    • @cooIcat6778
      @cooIcat6778 Год назад +14

      black individuals@@NycBeauty

    • @GaryFalcon-rs5uy
      @GaryFalcon-rs5uy Год назад

      Evry nite in my dreams, I see you.....I FEEL YOU

  • @7catsmom959
    @7catsmom959 Год назад +233

    These type of gates are very common in European undergrounds and they don't seem to have this problem. The issue is really the dishonesty of the riders.

    • @TrickyPasta
      @TrickyPasta Год назад +21

      diversity of the african persuasion

    • @toddspangler6669
      @toddspangler6669 Год назад +96

      ​@@TrickyPastaThe one they showed of people rushing through clearly had 3 white people.

    • @brandonmaster7901
      @brandonmaster7901 Год назад

      ​@toddspangler6669 bruh you don't wanna get into NYC crime statistics by race, you'll soon find whites are not the problem.

    • @gb21556
      @gb21556 Год назад

      Saw good amount of white people running through the gate . keep you hate to yourself !
      @@TrickyPasta

    • @fernvill
      @fernvill Год назад +28

      I saw it happening in Milan and Paris when I visited in December

  • @hullygullys
    @hullygullys Год назад +255

    It is difficult for me not to believe this is deliberate mismanagement at this point.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      To Hull Gullys: I agree. Certain corruption is camouflaged, covering confused and consternated citizens' eyes with wool.

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 Год назад +3

      its a pilot program, and mta says they see it being reduced by 20% right now. Stop hating

    • @ianianianianian5
      @ianianianianian5 Год назад

      Indeed

    • @yourmothersass5137
      @yourmothersass5137 Год назад +1

      There's politics involved , of course is deliberate

    • @uria702
      @uria702 11 месяцев назад

      Bingo. They want more fare evasion not less.

  • @amdl270
    @amdl270 Год назад +333

    The pushing is a safety issue. It gives room for people especially elderly, injured, and disabled to fall or twist their ankle. It also gives room for pickpocketing

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад +1

      Dear Amd 270: Yes: You'll see the strategy of this light-hearted situational skit taught by the *innocent upstanding* -- played out in full by today's *hard-core* generation players.

    • @shortsweetness876
      @shortsweetness876 Год назад

      You're absolutely right!!

    • @Nuttyirishman85
      @Nuttyirishman85 Год назад

      They should probably stay home in the first place.

    • @Nuttyirishman85
      @Nuttyirishman85 Год назад

      @@JacobTheThinker There are vans to pick them up, they just need to call.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад +1

      @@Nuttyirishman85: ... And negate their earnings -- the purpose of their outside venture in the first place.

  • @amamuffin
    @amamuffin Год назад +704

    This isn’t about evasion at all. It’s about a contractor buddy charging hundreds of millions to install these things. This is how they make money. The fare evasion is just a front /facade

    • @smrk2452
      @smrk2452 Год назад +13

      Interesting 🤔

    • @SexyUndisputed2All
      @SexyUndisputed2All Год назад

      I've been saying for years even before these new shits were announced
      These machines have lobbies who love paying off the mta types worldwide. Like it's cheap to pull out and install these new gates, all paid for by out tax money while mta execs get "donations" from the manufacturers of these gates

    • @redsox1935
      @redsox1935 Год назад +14

      It’s not a facade. Look at what they are doing in Manhattan with the congestion pricing. They most certainly are connected to fare evasion.

    • @mark1nyc
      @mark1nyc Год назад +7

      Bingo

    • @mcgritty8842
      @mcgritty8842 Год назад +35

      @@redsox1935don’t be foolish. We all know there’s bigger things at play, except for you

  • @gerardlo9473
    @gerardlo9473 Год назад +175

    Worked several construction sites for the MTA and the amount of wasted money is unbelievable. And they don't care because it's not their money. Think about it if somebody just kept giving you money everyday would you care about conserving any of it? Mismanagement across the board.

    • @istaycatchingfish2552
      @istaycatchingfish2552 Год назад +4

      You worked a construction site for the MTA doing what? As a contractor?

    • @kitaromiller2018
      @kitaromiller2018 Год назад

      ​@@istaycatchingfish2552 You Know that MTA is also a real estate agency, so they have contractors 😊.

    • @fabianortiz1712
      @fabianortiz1712 Год назад +1

      Prevailing wage and union jobs, the best jobs and biggest waste of tax payers money

    • @aheat3036
      @aheat3036 Год назад +7

      That’s what the fare evaders keep saying but that has nothing to do with the million$ upon million$ lost from fare evasion!… These thieves also commit other crimes once they jump the turnstiles!… They must be stopped!

    • @imarod78
      @imarod78 Год назад +1

      The old ones worked better

  • @kennethtimm1392
    @kennethtimm1392 Год назад +140

    The MTA doesn't care. It's not their money, and they just figure they'll charge the public to make up the difference for their bloated pensions through raising taxes or congestion pricing.

    • @livingtale5314
      @livingtale5314 Год назад +5

      Raise fare.

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад +6

      MTA = Money Thrown Away or More Trouble Ahead.

    • @livingtale5314
      @livingtale5314 Год назад +3

      @@dapperdonny4051 somebody is making good $ at MTA. Tax payers just pay.

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад

      @@livingtale5314 Nothing you or I can do about it.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      @@dapperdonny4051 : ... And if we try -- we fart!

  • @ryangalvatron4451
    @ryangalvatron4451 Год назад +81

    It's as if these were designed to make fare evasion a lot easier.

    • @niger1272
      @niger1272 Год назад

      All this is already paid for before the blue print

    • @joelrobert4053
      @joelrobert4053 Год назад

      This looks similar to wmata new gates in dc

  • @NeverDieSolus
    @NeverDieSolus Год назад +80

    MTA isnt too bright if they thought this was stoppin fare evading

    • @lojosol
      @lojosol Год назад

      you arent too bright if you think this is the end all product. its a test, they are testing.

    • @jesseozmen9835
      @jesseozmen9835 Год назад

      @@lojosol It’s almost like not enforcing the law emboldens people to break those laws.... how much money did they spend on this? where you dropped on your head?

    • @melindaalvarez263
      @melindaalvarez263 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@lojosolThe MTA isn't that bright with this new system if people are able to scurry through without paying

    • @WweThemes120
      @WweThemes120 28 дней назад

      @@lojosol Lmao how much money you think this test cost the taxpayers? But alright if you okay losing more money.

  • @johnshen1918
    @johnshen1918 Год назад +56

    In other countries like Japan and Taiwan, you have to swipe to get into the gate and swipe to get out of the gate. If you did not swipe in, you would not be able to swipe out and the alarm goes off. The ticketing agents are watching all gates. That's how they catch you for fare evasion.

    • @genez2157
      @genez2157 Год назад +7

      In other countries the barriers don't go to the ceiling, it's like 4 feet tall and the bars run horizontal. Most people don't climb over them. The citizens just don't do that. If they do the barriers that shirt here we will be doomed.

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад

      Countries like Japan and Taiwan don’t have the societal problems that America has. They do have some of our problems, but not to the degree that America has. What is the demographic make up of Taiwan? Predominantly or all Chinese. What is the demographic makeup of Japan? 98% Japanese. The Japanese are very protective of their homeland. America is NOT. The Japanese are taught from a young age, you must do what is right for Japan. They are not taught to be individual thinkers. The nail that sticks out gets hammered! If a Japanese person sticks out they get isolated from the rest of society. I have visited Japan 5 times. My best friend is Japanese. Fare evasion and shoplifting are just unheard of. Even if a person who is born outside Japan to Japanese parents, that person isn’t really considered Japanese if they were not born in Japan. And if that someone is half Japanese and half another race, even if born in Japan, they are not considered Japanese. It’s impossible to compare a country Japan to the United States, because our cultures and our behavior patterns are completely opposite, like night and day.

    • @thedopplereffect00
      @thedopplereffect00 Год назад +7

      They don't have a high percentage of petty criminals in those countries

    • @THE_DRUMCAPELLA_10.0
      @THE_DRUMCAPELLA_10.0 Год назад +3

      Is the alarm goes off nobody is gonna care

    • @johnshen1918
      @johnshen1918 Год назад

      @@THE_DRUMCAPELLA_10.0 The gate does not open when the alarm goes off and you cannot jump over the gate because it is too tall. Otherwise, you can choose not to exit the subway station if you don't wanna pay.

  • @dr.woozie7500
    @dr.woozie7500 Год назад +407

    The MTA will do everything but improve the subway system itself… 😂

    • @whatsittoyou5801
      @whatsittoyou5801 Год назад +13

      You do know MTA is 24hr system. Passenger's would go mad bonkers if it stop running a certain time like DC,Georgia, and countless other states😮

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN Год назад

      They only now started to clean again aw cute until they stop again and eric adams ain't getting them homeless something and they nutty people checked and clean so us tax payers can suffer and tourist get hassled by bums day in day out!
      And then if they come at us side ways we "can't give them hands mainly cause most them dirty but some legal bs or whatever cause eric adams don't care about us nor does our employer i'm sick and tired sure we all are!

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Год назад +34

      ​​@@whatsittoyou5801 It stopped running 24h during the pandemic and no one went bonkers.

    • @istaycatchingfish2552
      @istaycatchingfish2552 Год назад

      ​@@duckmercy11It ran continuously...

    • @k.b2457
      @k.b2457 Год назад +5

      @@duckmercy11 because no one was expected to go anywhere. also I don't recall it stopping at all...

  • @frankiecrocker
    @frankiecrocker Год назад +184

    Chief accessibility officer saying "we're learning. . ." ,is the most damning statement of incompetence you can hear from someone who is probably making a high six figure salary, if not more. You don't spend $750 million dollars for a frickin learning experience. These gates should never had passed the eye test, common sense tells you that they're ineffective at preventing fare evasion. The MTA is more concerned about how other countries are doing it instead of them using logic for what works best here.
    Correction, the gates cost roughly $700, 000 installed at the Suptin Blvd station.

    • @tommymiddlefinger1283
      @tommymiddlefinger1283 Год назад +9

      $700,000.

    • @GerogeChan
      @GerogeChan Год назад

      They're more concerned with money than lives

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Год назад +6

      And they aren't some new design but just one that is used elsewhere, except that since the subway doesn't have zones they have to be reversible for exit unlike for example in London where there are separate banks of in and out gates.

    • @sarbrevni
      @sarbrevni Год назад

      translation: chief stupidity officer

    • @Mica-rv5eg
      @Mica-rv5eg Год назад +1

      Absolutely right 👍

  • @stevep7713
    @stevep7713 Год назад +185

    This senior advisor needs to be fired immediately

    • @indigo991
      @indigo991 Год назад +8

      Hahaha I just said this!

    • @cooloosername
      @cooloosername Год назад +7

      That'd be silly. The MTA is the largest transit agency in the United States and it is important for them to experiment with new technologies before they deploy them system-wide. If the data shows that these new fare gates increase the amount of paying customers (contrary to the tone of this report), then they may pay for themselves and help the system recover.

    • @jordancarson
      @jordancarson Год назад +1

      Simpsons: “You’re fired.” “And for good cause!”

    • @ritepaxkpuchipaxk1076
      @ritepaxkpuchipaxk1076 Год назад +4

      Nyc is not NYC no more

    • @wiltbloococo
      @wiltbloococo Год назад +6

      @@cooloosernameyou’re the only sane person here. The video and comments totally ignored that their data shows this increased payments.

  • @JohnSmith-vf3vl
    @JohnSmith-vf3vl Год назад +51

    So a green light and a buzzer sound is gonna make people not go through?

  • @signupstuff
    @signupstuff Год назад +44

    A buzzer for piggy backing is useless unless there's someone there to enforce. It's like the gates we have now. There's a buzzer that goes off. Does it stop anyone?

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад +1

      Dear Signup Stuff: I agree. Even the recidivists would be riding free during the catch-and-release respite like rats returning to the scene many times before the trial dates not sniffed.

    • @drac124
      @drac124 Год назад

      Yes but create a job for a security guard? Are you insane? Its all about removing jobs and automation of shit.

  • @Hitori15
    @Hitori15 Год назад +72

    I mean, this is more than just the MTA's issue, it's about a culture and society issue. There's this pervasive idea that as long as people don't get caught, they can do whatever they want and exploit everything and others to maximize their own gain. It's a lack of moral foundation that gives them pause when considering whether they should be doing something or not.
    The MTA system, and how they're handling upgrading everything, may be lacking, but so are the people who evade paying their fare just because they believe they can.

    • @elandraqueller5731
      @elandraqueller5731 Год назад +5

      Even if they get caught, what's the consequence?

    • @missrese868
      @missrese868 Год назад +9

      Agreed.. its a lack in morality. You're an adult.. you know u shouldn't do that but do it anyway so i feel like what's gonna stop this, heavy penslty the extreme jail time and the amt of time u spen in jail increases by 24hrs each time u get caught doing it

    • @missrese868
      @missrese868 Год назад

      I say first offense $200 fine. After that jail. ​@@elandraqueller5731

    • @bruakumfd2845
      @bruakumfd2845 Год назад +5

      i think if people could see their money at work they would gladly pay.

    • @raresborcea
      @raresborcea Год назад +9

      So true, I would feel ashamed to be seen doing that. Few weeks ago, I experienced in my country a similar type of gate staying open for a good few more seconds than it should after the previous customer. I could have just crossed but I preferred to pay. This money is used to pay salaries and improve the travel quality for everyone.

  • @queenbee4350
    @queenbee4350 Год назад +86

    I thought it was just the kids not paying. There were a whole lotta grown folks fare evading in this video.

    • @joseywales148
      @joseywales148 Год назад

      NYC is a ghetto city- and then add the 5 million illegals in the city… it’s a third world trash dump

    • @ThePoliticalBulldog
      @ThePoliticalBulldog Год назад +15

      try being poor

    • @clackman622
      @clackman622 Год назад +7

      im good@@ThePoliticalBulldog

    • @whatsittoyou5801
      @whatsittoyou5801 Год назад +17

      ​@ThePoliticalBulldog your funny, it's not only the poor it's EVERYONE

    • @ambivertical
      @ambivertical Год назад +14

      Theyre kids in grown bodies.

  • @williamscoufaras7045
    @williamscoufaras7045 Год назад +54

    I knew this was gonna be a problem and not work. In Boston, they have very similar fare control gates and fare evasion for the MBTA has also been a BIG problem lately. This is exactly what happens there. So what if more people with luggage are paying? Their goal originally was to eliminate it and clearly that’s not happening. What a waste of money.

    • @yaush_
      @yaush_ Год назад

      T gates are better though because they slide open and there’s a buzzer if multiple go through

    • @FirstnameLastname-xq4rp
      @FirstnameLastname-xq4rp Год назад

      Wait, you're supposed to pay to ride the T?

    • @williamscoufaras7045
      @williamscoufaras7045 Год назад

      @@FirstnameLastname-xq4rp yes. It’s like any other Public transit system lol!

    • @williamscoufaras7045
      @williamscoufaras7045 11 месяцев назад

      @@yaush_ but there are still a ton of people who are still able to evade the fare. Plus a buzzer isn’t gonna do shit if you ask me bc they’ll just ignore it. They’ll be like “yeah, whatever.”

  • @sjgrall
    @sjgrall Год назад +77

    I watched people push and force the similar new ones in DC open to avoid paying. The buzzer option won’t matter; I hear it literally back to back in DC, and there’s little enforcement. It appears from my limited use of the DC system that far more people fare evade than actually pay.

    • @sjgrall
      @sjgrall Год назад +4

      @Mr.DeStylez I think only those giant jail-like turnstiles will ultimately stop fare evaders.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Год назад +4

      @@sjgrall They are far slower than various turnstile/gate systems and take up more room too, so there would have to be five times more room to put them than the current gates. They are also very poor at turning around for exiting, and would also require multiple exit gates for emergencies.

    • @sjgrall
      @sjgrall Год назад +2

      @@emjayay Indeed, and therein lies the challenge. A "pick your poison" moment.

    • @MarkEmerAndersonII
      @MarkEmerAndersonII Год назад

      @@emjayay Also, their accessibility is a nightmare, so you have to have one of the wheelchair gate doors, which are very easy to leave open.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x Год назад

      @@sjgrall I would be greatly surprised if these literally have no effect on fare evasion. Before, you could just jump the gate. Now you have to wait for someone to pay. Therefore it must reduce it to some degree.

  • @ThyReturner
    @ThyReturner Год назад +1

    The city saved us 600 million. Thank you.

  • @mamacindyrogofsky495
    @mamacindyrogofsky495 Год назад +54

    Isn't this what everyone was always doing with old gates? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @alexisgem3923
      @alexisgem3923 Год назад +7

      Yes 🤣🤣🤣

    • @QUINKLEY
      @QUINKLEY Год назад +1

      No, they can't only one per turnstile not>5.

    • @ThAtZkOoLbEaNz
      @ThAtZkOoLbEaNz Год назад

      I live across from the supthin the monitors they have take a while to close so yea very easy for ppl to go through with one person paying

    • @vicvic2081
      @vicvic2081 Год назад

      You clearly not live in nyc

    • @cecec9403
      @cecec9403 Год назад

      Well at least ppl won't get struck fighting with the turnstile 😂 sorry not gonna work

  • @blueraptor9497
    @blueraptor9497 Год назад +77

    Meanwhile in Japan they don’t even have doors at ticket gates and ppl still pay the fare 😂

    • @EricaEchos
      @EricaEchos Год назад +39

      Because honor matters to the Japanese. It's cultural, and parents teach it to their children. Crime is a great source of shame for a Japanese person.

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx Год назад +24

      They do have ticket gate doors, it's just that the gate defaults to being open. The gate will close if you try to pass without a ticket. If you're in Japan or have plans to go there just try it. The gate will quickly close and an alarm is sounded.

    • @blueraptor9497
      @blueraptor9497 Год назад +7

      @@bltzcstrnx haha public shame at its best in Japan 😂 I think I’m good

    • @5445jedi
      @5445jedi Год назад +7

      @@blueraptor9497if you don’t break the law or act like an animal, then you have nothing to worry about.

    • @nickpatella1525
      @nickpatella1525 Год назад +6

      A sound plays if you go through without paying, and they actually have someone on duty to stop you

  • @njdriving
    @njdriving Год назад +49

    If you read the report, they're putting a good amount of blame on the almost 1 million school kids that uses the system that do not pay all the time.

    • @dr.woozie7500
      @dr.woozie7500 Год назад +39

      NYC school kids aren’t paying regardless, they are given free student Metrocards. A lot of them don’t even bother swiping them and just jump to save time, especially when school gets out.

    • @acestarone
      @acestarone Год назад +7

      @@dr.woozie7500jumping to save time is a cool excuse lol 😂

    • @shreddersaurusrex323
      @shreddersaurusrex323 Год назад +9

      Don’t forget about MTA employees who get free cards.

    • @Otter-Destruction
      @Otter-Destruction Год назад +19

      @@dr.woozie7500 they dont jump to save time, they jump to not use up the limited rides they have.

    • @mattkennedy6115
      @mattkennedy6115 Год назад +8

      @@shreddersaurusrex323you expect them to pay?

  • @abevaquero3532
    @abevaquero3532 2 месяца назад +1

    These people's needs to be arrested for not paying their fares it's ridiculous

  • @weekenderfam7965
    @weekenderfam7965 Год назад +67

    they need double gates, only one person can get through before the next gate opens

    • @XAVE325
      @XAVE325 Год назад +17

      You'll end up spending just as much as fare evasion having to maintain double the gates throughout the entire city, plus the congestion would get so much worse

    • @lukelou9008
      @lukelou9008 Год назад

      That’s actually a pretty smart idea. One to let you in then closes, then the second to open to let you out, but you forget one thing , fat people.

    • @CAIN_STAR
      @CAIN_STAR Год назад

      That's time consuming.

    • @lukelou9008
      @lukelou9008 Год назад +3

      @@CAIN_STAR yes, but money saving

    • @robrandolph9463
      @robrandolph9463 Год назад +8

      They need Rudy back.

  • @srry198
    @srry198 Год назад +28

    At least they’re making fare evasion accessible to everyone 😂

  • @jackcollazo
    @jackcollazo Год назад +53

    The best I've seen were those metal gated revolving doors that would prevent this kind of piggy backing though it would be difficult for people with strollers and baggages. I don't think there is a solution to please everyone.

    • @dr.woozie7500
      @dr.woozie7500 Год назад +24

      Those are death traps though. If they aren’t greased properly they’ll stop turning and it’s easy for a robber to hold one end of the revolving gate and mug someone stuck inside.

    • @jackcollazo
      @jackcollazo Год назад +3

      @@dr.woozie7500 that's a good point. Oh well, then there's no solution at all.

    • @clays32
      @clays32 Год назад +5

      I've seen taller versions of this gate in London subways that might prevent that

    • @acestarone
      @acestarone Год назад

      I don’t use the new turnstiles nor exit through the emergency exit to exit. I don’t people piggy backing or getting too close to me.

    • @clackman622
      @clackman622 Год назад

      good idea...@@dr.woozie7500

  • @UltimatePokeGamer7
    @UltimatePokeGamer7 Год назад +5

    They need to implement the airport passport system into subways. The system opens one gate, provides access and opens the next one in front. It probably delays the passenger by 10-20s longer but it works.

    • @DeadSalamander
      @DeadSalamander Год назад +1

      Could never handle the throughput requirements of a public metro system (I work in the field).

  • @elandraqueller5731
    @elandraqueller5731 Год назад +14

    They should do like in Europe - you have to scan going in and out. And if a transit cop checks your ticket on the train and finds out you haven't scanned in, you're escorted off the train at the next stop and to the nearest gate. They can also adjust the timing on the gates to close more quickly. I'd also be petty and go through slowly to stymie anyone behind me.

    • @jonathandpg6115
      @jonathandpg6115 Год назад +2

      yes scanning in and out should be mandatory

    • @MarkEmerAndersonII
      @MarkEmerAndersonII Год назад

      They have that in DC and they use it to charge you more based on length of trip and people still jump the turnstile. I'd prefer to keep our "nickel fare"

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      Dear Elandraqueller: 5731, Your method would work more efficiently in Europe. In the United States, law enforcement is playing merry-go-round with the catch-and-release judicial system.
      The trivial frottage (sexy rub up) -- and violent foot-in-mouth fury by the perps plotting to pound peaceful people.

    • @Финскийза6месяцев
      @Финскийза6месяцев Год назад +2

      why is this needed? They don’t pay for travel, only those people who have little money, why make life difficult for the poor? we are Americans, we respect everyone.

    • @MarkEmerAndersonII
      @MarkEmerAndersonII Год назад +2

      @@Финскийза6месяцев Honestly, mass transit should just be free.

  • @dl4399
    @dl4399 Год назад +1

    It is not the gate. The problem is there is no enforcement. Make the fare evaders paid the fine on the spot and if they can’t take them to jail.

  • @patrickh9937
    @patrickh9937 Год назад +54

    This is the kind of incompetence that congestion pricing is paying for.

  • @wst5278
    @wst5278 Год назад +1

    a 2 gate system may solve this problem but slows down clearing crowds. Basically the first gate opens automatically when you approach then closes behind you, then you scan your card so that the 2nd gate opens.

  • @raulsierra1981
    @raulsierra1981 Год назад +9

    It's a money pit. "They" had already promised contractors millions. They knew in advanced it would fail. Follow The Money!!!!!

  • @bobbachelor5930
    @bobbachelor5930 Год назад +18

    Fare evasion will double with these new gates.

    • @itslikethesamebutdifferent8020
      @itslikethesamebutdifferent8020 Год назад +1

      Now that you mention it, i’m all for the MTA installing these same gates all across the city.

    • @xxMiCkEyPRx
      @xxMiCkEyPRx Год назад +2

      Double???? You mean Triple! 😅

    • @ianloeb1672
      @ianloeb1672 Год назад

      Triple? From the looks of things I would say Sextouple

  • @r160aexpress5
    @r160aexpress5 Год назад +11

    MTA sighing right now knowing their plan didn't work against fare evasion

  • @am74343
    @am74343 Год назад +43

    That's why the gates should open TOWARDS you and not AWAY from you. And they should close more quickly. And if people think there's a safety issue, then the Supervisor in charge of that platform should be able to press the PANIC button to allow passengers to escape in case of emergency.

    • @joermnyc
      @joermnyc Год назад +1

      The gates do open both ways, watch the lady with the box again.

    • @DaveFlash
      @DaveFlash Год назад +6

      ​@@joermnyc because there the sensor thinks there is someone exiting from the other side as it'a a disabled access gate from that side.

    • @ninjagirl226
      @ninjagirl226 Год назад +3

      It’s a safety risk to open towards you and not away from you.

    • @SonGokuSann
      @SonGokuSann Год назад

      ​@@joermnycshe thick

  • @nfn4
    @nfn4 Год назад +7

    When theivery becomes part of a society, no subway gate will stop such practice. The MTA is suffering from fare beaters the same as retailers are losing money to shop lifters.

  • @itsnotme07
    @itsnotme07 Год назад +1

    These guys need to see what the BART guys have installed in their West Oakland, CA station. 7 foot high gates, that are NOT going to be pushed and no way do 4-5 people get in off one payment.

  • @DDELE7
    @DDELE7 Год назад +5

    The doors should be taller and a second set should be installed so that minimizes piggybacking

  • @jamess.9743
    @jamess.9743 Год назад +2

    remember the Guiliani years where fare evasion meant an overnight or ovee weekend at central bookings? pepperidge farm remembers.

  • @hazelady5068
    @hazelady5068 Год назад +55

    MTA needs to be free period

    • @Vamo_Alla
      @Vamo_Alla Год назад +12

      Well, free for those who pay 💰 taxes…I agree 👍🏼

    • @Theinspirationalrogue
      @Theinspirationalrogue Год назад +4

      Right? That’s the only solution

    • @jamesstpatrick8493
      @jamesstpatrick8493 Год назад +1

      Free for those under 50k yes

    • @seth_deegan
      @seth_deegan Год назад +7

      They'd save so much in operating costs maintaining their fare system if they made it free. However, it would mean taxpayers would be subsidizing non-taxpayers like tourists... But then again does that matter when 98%+ of riders are taxpayers? Probably not. Someone should do a study...

    • @johnsamoilis6379
      @johnsamoilis6379 Год назад +2

      Then have Rockland, Orange, Nassau, Suffolk, Westchester, and Putnam counties leave the MTA tax zone then. I dont need to pay for your subway fare and get nothing back in return.

  • @realdeal139
    @realdeal139 Год назад +1

    Who sold the Mta that bill of goods? They need to held accountable! Total garbage

  • @Jnoel608
    @Jnoel608 Год назад +4

    It’s impossible to please all customers while stopping fare evasion. The only thing that stopped fare evasion in the past was the sentiment around it and the fact that cops used to issue fines.
    The fare evasion really ramped up once cops stopped issuing tickets and also the price of fares went up. So it was the perfect storm for people who were fed up paying high transit fares and the fact that the trains at certain stations are late and done come very often. Along with that fact that you can’t avoid the homeless and mentally ill people on the subway. No one wants to continue to pay more and more money for that.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x Год назад

      "It’s impossible to please all customers while stopping fare evasion."
      Agree. This should help a lot, though.
      " Along with that fact that you can’t avoid the homeless and mentally ill people on the subway."
      And reducing fare evasion helps with this also

  • @AngeloWhitehead
    @AngeloWhitehead Год назад +1

    They need to make public transportation free

  • @gchsbus
    @gchsbus Год назад +6

    In the UK, which I am not from but visited often, they have non-law enforcement fare inspectors watching the cameras and on the other side of the fare gates with radios. In busy stations, they will have 20 to 30 of them. They are waiting to stop you and ask for ID and give you a ticket. If you run, the police are close by and give chase and the person gets caught and receives a royal beat down because the British Police don't play. I'd love to know how anyone is getting through these fare gates without paying in NYC and allowed to go on their merry way.

    • @Luckywave268
      @Luckywave268 Год назад

      NY isn't a police state like the UK...

    • @gchsbus
      @gchsbus Год назад +1

      @@Luckywave268 Holding accountable people who break the law does not make a particular placee a police state.

    • @Luckywave268
      @Luckywave268 Год назад +1

      @@gchsbus UK gotta camera on you when you fart.

    • @mjb48219
      @mjb48219 Год назад

      Do we really want unarmed attendants confronting people in NYC. Unfortunately that could be very dangerous in the US.

    • @gchsbus
      @gchsbus Год назад

      @@mjb48219 Why would we arm them? They arw not police or security guards. Is the parking authority armex? No and they write tickets and tow cars all day, right in front of angry people.

  • @vee9743
    @vee9743 Год назад +2

    As someone who comes from a place where this style of gate is the norm, trying to solve fare evasion with gates is futile. You can't realistically have gates that open long enough for a person to get through, but that doesn't allow people to sneak behind them. The solution to fare dodging is definitely not in the ticket gates

    • @Observer-p7u
      @Observer-p7u 5 месяцев назад

      Like with so many issues, attempting to solve it by targeting symptoms never work...

  • @tobeytransport2802
    @tobeytransport2802 Год назад +11

    In London you have to tap to exit. If you didn’t tap on the way in it charges you a higher fare... the risk of this might stop people tailgating, especially if they realise that at their exit station there might be officers who are watching them, and they’ll either have to tap and pay a higher charge or tailgate and risk a fine. They can also make it so the gates won’t allow people to leave at all and require people to have their fare inspected if they aren’t let out. This would also stop people like the lady with the cardboard box. I’ve never been to the US but here in the UK there are signs everywhere on public transport warning you of high fines (£40-100) if you don’t pay, and criminal prosecution if it’s a planned scheme to evade fares.

    • @wintersun398
      @wintersun398 Год назад +1

      absolutely. Don’t they have fines for not having a valid ticket? Just charge $200 for not having a valid ticket and people will learn fast

    • @yaush_
      @yaush_ Год назад

      @@wintersun398fines for not having a ticket doesn’t really exist in the us. On 99% of trains (that aren’t Amtrak) if you don’t have a ticket the conductor will just charge you the same price as a ticket. It’s just like a regular fare if you get caught. This is at least in the northeast.

    • @DaveFlash
      @DaveFlash Год назад

      and that's another thing, in europe this is a criminal offence, meaning police can and will arrest you, and you could get a criminal record, while in america it's only a misdemeanor and not a criminal act. that needs to change as well. and that's up to the politcians.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      Dear Tobey Transport 2802: Ex-pat here: UK-to-US. Learning the positives of the United States, visiting sights, scenery and seeing situations and specific targets with your support system is fine -- But reside and work deep down in the grass roots with dubious Americans (and *half-arsed U.S. influenced* foreign people) in certain cities, you'd wish to be a temporary tourist -- soon to return.
      The State's sapiens are different: The psychology and system is weird.

  • @mystockroom
    @mystockroom Год назад +1

    Those gates made it easy to avoid the fare. What idi^t thought of that idea. And the buzzer sounding means nothing.

  • @Zero11_ss
    @Zero11_ss Год назад +8

    The gate design is stupid and changing these out is just another mta grift. Wonder whose buddy got the contract for these. They will soon say they have no money and raise fares again.

    • @stevemuzak8526
      @stevemuzak8526 Год назад +1

      And even more people will stop paying for fare.

    • @Zero11_ss
      @Zero11_ss Год назад +3

      @@stevemuzak8526 when I see people everyday who dont pay- and they rush and take all the seats on the bus, why should I pay? Its really turning into that kind of situation now.

    • @stevep7713
      @stevep7713 Год назад

      The unions who are all about to be out of work because of the crash in commercial real state definitely getting those jobs.

  • @Ryan-he2qz
    @Ryan-he2qz Год назад +4

    They should police everyshift watching those gates. 24 hrs a day non stop with the cameras recording their face their movements. Any multiple attempt will be arrested .

  • @Shinycelebi
    @Shinycelebi Год назад +9

    The design of the gates can be modified with bigger panels, but whoever installed these needs to adjust the door censor to close faster as seen on other gates of similar design. The MTA has to stop going for the low ball offer at this point.

    • @onetwo-dr8hl
      @onetwo-dr8hl Год назад +6

      You mean dangerously fast? Smells like a lawsuit already 😂

    • @Shinycelebi
      @Shinycelebi Год назад +1

      @onetwo-dr8hl I mean we could always do what Japan does and keep our gates open. Anybody who doesn't pay the gates slam closed.

    • @juicyfruit6311
      @juicyfruit6311 Год назад +2

      ​@@ShinycelebiWith civilized riders, passengers all pay. However, some clown might rush the gate and claim injury. Plenty of lawyers salivating for a nice payout.

  • @watchgagootz
    @watchgagootz Год назад +6

    They paid $700,000 to loose more than $700,000.

  • @eb7027
    @eb7027 Год назад +8

    The old non innovative way worked and we need to go back to it. Floor to ceiling single person revolving doors in and out. If you have a stroller or big luggage (a small part of the ridership) you have the gate person open and close it for you after you pay.this had always been worked before all these so called new cool looking fair evasion garbage gates. People you just watched 7 people go behind one paying customer😡😡and the MTA innovation groups says…”yeah this is what we want”🙄🙄🙄

  • @patgnz3690
    @patgnz3690 Год назад +16

    🤔I never really skip paying but this shii is easier 💀✌️ thanks MTA😂

  • @Firerose101
    @Firerose101 Год назад

    Make it a two gate system. First one opens, enough room for one. First gate closes, second one opens

  • @JayJay-cw3cg
    @JayJay-cw3cg Год назад +14

    LAUGHING JOKE HAHAHAHA the MTA is so disconnected from the system they do not use but are in charge of

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN Год назад

      Yea they ain't know fair evasion is part of being a new yorker is thee most out of touch thing i heard all year!

  • @karatearmchairhistorian9825
    @karatearmchairhistorian9825 Год назад +16

    The real problem is that many people in NYC feel that it is fheir right to evade fares and if they have to pay for the subway that somehow makes them less "street smart". I personally seen people make fun of a person who would rather go through the turstile and pay rather then use the exit door which was held by someone as 20 or so people walked in.

    • @unabashed
      @unabashed Год назад +4

      You're talking about kids or the pre-frontal lobe development crowd. Others are just poor and can't justify the expense when they have gas and electricity to worry about.

    • @leonelfernandez9487
      @leonelfernandez9487 Год назад +6

      You're not from NYC are you?

    • @istaycatchingfish2552
      @istaycatchingfish2552 Год назад

      ​@unabashed How are you worried about gas and paying the fare either drive or don't people pretend the fare is outrageous and it's not 😂

    • @karatearmchairhistorian9825
      @karatearmchairhistorian9825 Год назад +2

      @@leonelfernandez9487 Live in Brooklyn, work in Manhattan, been taking the subway every day for 30 years. Funny thing, once in a Midtown bar I found a wallet on the floor under my barstool and handed it to the bartender who later gave it to the guy who lost it, and when the bartender told him to thank me, since I was the one who found it, I heard the same comment from others at the bar: "you're not form New York, are you?" I still am perplexed by it whenever I hear it.

    • @leonelfernandez9487
      @leonelfernandez9487 Год назад

      @karatearmchairhistorian9825 that's cool and all but are you from New York were you born or raised here

  • @raymondlee8351
    @raymondlee8351 Год назад +8

    It's all come down to people's back ground and education. If your parents don't teach you what's right thing, what's wrong thing to do. Then the law have to step in . Put them away to jail for day or two. See how much things will turn around. Law and order for sure.

    • @omaranthony3703
      @omaranthony3703 Год назад +1

      The police don’t care I hopped in front of the police yesterday. In a lot of New Yorkers mind the mta is free it’s been that way for years they just gotta accept that

    • @bmccarthy3333
      @bmccarthy3333 Год назад +3

      Poor folks cheat on subway fare, rich folks cheat on taxes...all "fare"😂

    • @Luckywave268
      @Luckywave268 Год назад

      Corrupt leaders.... people just following their example. No one cares anymore because our leaders haven't cared for decades.

    • @bltzcstrnx
      @bltzcstrnx Год назад +1

      I don't think so, my country doesn't really have a good reputation with education, yet people pay for public transportation here. The key, at least here where I live, is either security guard or transit employee guarding each entry point.

  • @KrustySnax
    @KrustySnax Год назад +1

    Should be free it’s basically just a moving trap house.

  • @LiftedGround
    @LiftedGround Год назад +4

    Just arrest the people skipping the fairs. If they have money for Jordan’s they can afford the fare. If you dont punish people will not care.

  • @ragweedmakesmesneeze
    @ragweedmakesmesneeze Год назад +1

    Wait so, despite the "epidemic" of fare evasion, the paid fares are up 20% at this station where the new gates are being tested? It sounds like fare evasion isn't actually a problem.

  • @patsfactz3169
    @patsfactz3169 Год назад +2

    they really think a buzzer is going to stop ppl from jumping lmaoo

    • @fijah
      @fijah Год назад

      same thing in dc lol

  • @AlphaCoWolf
    @AlphaCoWolf 6 месяцев назад +1

    Asia don't even have this problem.

  • @aceboogisback9946
    @aceboogisback9946 Год назад +19

    The problem is that they're trying to use contemporary tech to solve a cultural issue. This doesn't happen as frequently in places like China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Germany, Singapore, etc because there's a nationwide emphasis placed on discipline, respect for authority, and ethics.

    • @Dagune
      @Dagune Год назад

      You gotta use technology and enforcement to change behavior and culture

    • @duckmercy11
      @duckmercy11 Год назад

      Wrong. In all those countries fare evasion is way more likely to lead to jail time, so it's the draconian laws not "the culture." In Japan you can't even leave the system without putting in a ticket because the fare is distance-based, so it's impossible to evade. Tired of you racist clowns putting asians on a pedestal.

    • @omariorou1339
      @omariorou1339 Год назад +2

      False. They do this in those countries too especially Germany lol in germany it’s cultural!

    • @aceboogisback9946
      @aceboogisback9946 Год назад

      @@omariorou1339 I respectfully disagree. Some cities in Germany don't even use fare gates at all, like Berlin. You just validate the ticket in a machine.

    • @omariorou1339
      @omariorou1339 Год назад

      @@aceboogisback9946 and yet ppl still commit crime there. The gangs kids have exploded in Germany

  • @frankhaddock6226
    @frankhaddock6226 Год назад +12

    100k fare invaders in 2023 150mil in overtime for NYPD to stop fare invaders make that make since 😂

  • @theotheleo6830
    @theotheleo6830 Год назад +20

    It's very telling that the official didn't foresee this. After all, piggybacking is not an uncommon method of gaining illicit access. Also, the gate with a buzzer won't do any good if no police are around to apprehend the evaders. The constant buzzing will just be another annoyance. Instead, they should randomly check passengers for proof of payment and issue large fines for evaders.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Год назад +5

      The German/Austrian solution, and no fare gates needed anywhere. But those are relatively high compliance societies - people follow the rules.

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад +3

      @@emjayay Just like in Japan

    • @DancingDeity
      @DancingDeity Год назад

      @@emjayaya lot of people in those systems don’t pay for fare. Sometimes they get caught sometimes they don’t.

    • @sharravee2054
      @sharravee2054 Год назад +1

      If you pay with your card, how can they tell that you paid? What would be the proof of payment?

    • @dapperdonny4051
      @dapperdonny4051 Год назад +1

      @@sharravee2054 The system in antiquated and hopefully with the OMNY electronic fare card proof of payment would be easier

  • @desmondmiles5042
    @desmondmiles5042 Год назад +2

    boston already has this and it doesnt work

  • @carolharris2401
    @carolharris2401 Год назад +7

    The mta is poorly managed. They keep raising the price due to fare evasion shortfall which just lead to more fare evasion. I pay $ 132 for unlimted monthly card. Thats ridiculously expensive for a system that has millions of riders daily. The sheer volume of people going through the system daily should have been enough if the fare was reasonably price. But the cost keep going up and up. They are subsidize and yet the fair keeps climbing so of course people are going to evade the fares. 132 per month, couple that with what you have to pay for rent and other bills. Then we have idiot mayor talking about getting people back in the office when having a remote job save you on transportation. Hell if I find a remote job that saves $132 per month. I woild jump at it. These people live in their ivory tower. They have no clue the struggles that ordinary folks go through to make ends meet. They were suppose to make some of the buses free. Have they done that? Hell no!. All they do is come up with these grand costly schemes to save a buck without giving straphangers anything but higher cost. Heres an idea how about they make the subways free on Sundays or after 10 pm. See if that works to recuperate some of that money. Hell how about half price on weekends. They dont want to fix this. They just want to justify raising the price to combat their poor mismanagement

  • @kevins6114
    @kevins6114 Год назад +3

    In Porto, Portugal, attendants regularly come through the Metro cars to tap everyone’s cards to see if they were validated when entering the stations. If you don’t have a valid tap, you’re issued a fine of €95. Why couldn’t this be done in NYC, or DC (having problems with fare evasion there too).

    • @enthusiastisch1922
      @enthusiastisch1922 Год назад +2

      Porto is so cheap like Lisbon, it’s literally 40 euros a calendar month for the whole metropolitan area, I don’t understand why anyone would not get that since it’s very affordable.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      Dear Kevins 6114: Dig and dredge up dastardly deeds done in NYC on RUclips or social media. You'll find the judicial system is playing catch-and-release with even violent offenders.
      The badge of law enforcement is often disrespected by the public who are saved by the police, procure hassles of a thankless job -- let alone attendants "authority" scoffed and mocked, having any impact.

    • @drac124
      @drac124 Год назад +1

      Because that is equal creating jobs and that is 100% corporate offensive.

    • @eddyvideostar
      @eddyvideostar Год назад

      @@drac124: Please retype.

  • @skrmacs4815
    @skrmacs4815 Год назад +7

    he is the adviser. no wonder its a debacle

  • @ak478900
    @ak478900 Год назад

    Why don’t they make it a two door gate system, you basically open the 1st door, it closes and you remain between two doors then the 2nd door open and so on

  • @Milon-st6bx
    @Milon-st6bx Год назад +4

    Jamaica center last stop of E and J trains all most 50 % people don't pay even though cops watching the gate .

    • @starventure
      @starventure Год назад

      Cops don't want to roll the dice and end up in a hospital or the morgue for a measly $2.90 loss to the MTA. Fares make zero sense.

    • @istaycatchingfish2552
      @istaycatchingfish2552 Год назад

      What are the police going to do force people to pay? Write them tickets they won't pay? Arrest them? Why would police risk their jobs over fare evasion the second someone resists 50 phones come out to record everything I don't blame the police it's the scumbags up top who don't back the police...

  • @kevink3688
    @kevink3688 Год назад

    Parents with strollers: "I love it!"
    Fare evaders: "I love it too!!! "♥

  • @patrickwoo1747
    @patrickwoo1747 Год назад +14

    No one should pay any fee for a unclean condition in a train system like this

    • @pjcasale
      @pjcasale Год назад

      Most of the trains I ride on are relatively clean, so I don’t know what you are talking about.

  • @ChakatNightspark
    @ChakatNightspark Год назад +1

    what about Double Gate system. spread them apart abit more. enough where a person can go thur with suit case and maybe a child. First Gate opens you go thur, 2nd Gate is still closed, 1st Gate Closes behind you, Stopping anyone else from following right behind you. Then 2nd Gate Opens up.

  • @TheRailwayDrone
    @TheRailwayDrone Год назад +3

    This is always going to happen. I am in London as we speak and some kid piggybacked off me on gates that are pretty much the same as those. It's not just the U.S.

    • @drac124
      @drac124 Год назад +3

      Paris here, and its the same. The gates close extremely fast, makes no difference, they force the gates, jump, run, its wild.

  • @posthocprior
    @posthocprior Год назад +2

    If you know you’ve lost $630 million, then you can approximate how much needs to be spent on officers at stations to enforce paying a fare. For instance, if $1 million is lost at station y, then you start by spending $100k on part time officers to patrol during the busiest hours. In other words, the more that is spent on officers, the less that is lost. And you continue to spend on officers until you start to see a flat lining of riders paying fares.

  • @THETONESHOW
    @THETONESHOW Год назад +64

    These new gates are great MTA now a whole group of people can ride for free 🤡

  • @victorroa9442
    @victorroa9442 Год назад

    As a born & raised New Yorker, fare evasion won’t go away until they fix the ancient infrastructure that is the subway system in NYC.. or at least start small and make sure the trains can run without constant delays day by day. NYPD has police precincts at some train station yet people still get harassed, assaulted, pushed in front of trains on the daily… at least you were a paying customer before you became the victim of a crime.

  • @prageeth4855
    @prageeth4855 Год назад +3

    Chief accessibility officer still has a job? Isn’t this common sense to check someone could piggyback on an already opened gate with this design before spending $$$$ and now again requires police to monitor this? Unbelievable

  • @TellyMan200
    @TellyMan200 Год назад

    so strange, as as one who lived in london, the tube (Underground) had these gates for years and also uk british rail had it. finally nyc getting it. progress late but progress at least

  • @ducksauce001
    @ducksauce001 Год назад +3

    These gates are not unique. There are variations of this in train stations all over the world. It's about educating people and enforcing rules. People should be held responsible for breaking rules.

    • @WillLMC96
      @WillLMC96 Год назад +3

      Of course, these gates have been used in London since at least the mid 90s. There is no fare evasion issue there at all but Europeans are a lot higher class of people than New Yorkers & Americans, they wouldn’t even think to evade the fare.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Год назад

      @@WillLMC96 London' gates only go in one direction with separate gates for exiting because of fare zones. They do move really fast, making a fwap sound each time.

    • @WillLMC96
      @WillLMC96 10 месяцев назад

      @breadandcircuses8127 Europeans are more civilized, you don't see as many crazies or violent criminals as you do compared to in America.

  • @schunka1051
    @schunka1051 Год назад +1

    just do it the same as in many places in Europe and make it beep when two people go through after only one ticket was detected??? it's not that difficult new york

  • @Glowsaphinebaker
    @Glowsaphinebaker Год назад +12

    Good for them, let the mta open their books so we can see what they’re doing with their money always raising the fares but not raising folks pay…hop the turnstiles yall

    • @istaycatchingfish2552
      @istaycatchingfish2552 Год назад

      MTA workers just got 10% over the next 3 years 😂 "Not raising pay"...

  • @chorlauheung4920
    @chorlauheung4920 Год назад +1

    Electrical shocks at the gates work better.

  • @tmmsplace
    @tmmsplace Год назад +18

    The original system of turnstiles and ticket collectors was impenetrable. Then the MTA took over, the industrial revolution came and automation ruined the whole thing. Now, the public infrastructure has no money, bad ideas and a user base that doesn't appreciate or respect it

    • @miles8718
      @miles8718 Год назад +12

      The industrial revolution came wayyyy before the MTA my guy. And the MTA not having money or people who appreciate it is because of decades of underfunding and budget cuts for public transportation and infrastructure.

    • @cliffpadilla5871
      @cliffpadilla5871 Год назад +3

      We used to slide underneath the original turnstiles.

    • @emjayay
      @emjayay Год назад

      @@cliffpadilla5871 You could practically walk under the flat wooden ones. There's one at the Transit Museum. The spinning angled bars on turnstiles after that were obviously to fix that problem.

  • @cathynewyork7918
    @cathynewyork7918 Год назад +2

    ??? A buzzer sounds, in that second gate option? Does MTA really think a buzzer will deter fare invaders ??? LOL.

  • @Kinsanity
    @Kinsanity Год назад +2

    Why are we paying into this corrupt system who just spent $2billions on just a few new trains?

    • @M4TTYN
      @M4TTYN Год назад +1

      Trains we won't see till like 2046? and only for homeless to call those home too oh goodie! and still no safety measures on stations also? why can all else outside the US do it easily but America seems to can't or "it's too expensive" or as usual take their sweet ass time with it!

    • @dex7145
      @dex7145 Год назад

      Delays and unsanitary conditions every day, it’s clear they ain’t doing sh*t with the fare

  • @Markjenson1894
    @Markjenson1894 Год назад +1

    Great --- so now its easier for ppl to fare evade. Good job, MTA, on INCREASING the number of assholes that ride our subway system, not decrease.....

  • @Batony
    @Batony Год назад +4

    Without enforcement, this is useless.

  • @hothotheat3000
    @hothotheat3000 Год назад +1

    Thanks for the free rides!

  • @091IDGAF
    @091IDGAF Год назад +8

    Just make public transportation...FREE

    • @gilw.733
      @gilw.733 Год назад +8

      Well nothing is technically free. Maintenance has to be done, the employees have to get paid, etc.... If by "free" you mean raise taxes to avoid having to purchase rides, then sure if you don't mind it coming out of your paycheck.

    • @zerodepth
      @zerodepth Год назад +3

      @@gilw.733this guy can't even afford a $3 fare so I doubt he's getting much of a paycheck

    • @mastahkush2398
      @mastahkush2398 Год назад

      ⁠@@zerodepth$3 for 1 ride $6 for two, $12 for 4, $30 for 10 and it keeps on adding up. If you’re ok with getting taxed and/or pay for fare that’s fine. Not everyone is settling for this shit if nothing gets done in our country. They waste money on guns, “upgrade MTA”, invade other countries, give us shitty foods and force us to get vaccinated. You’re crazy if you accept all this from our government.

    • @zerodepth
      @zerodepth Год назад +2

      @@mastahkush2398 tell me you're a brokie with out telling me you're a brokie

    • @mastahkush2398
      @mastahkush2398 Год назад

      @@zerodepth Tell me you’re a sucka without telling me you’re a sucka

  • @samfisher4414
    @samfisher4414 Год назад +2

    Been questioning how the MTA is still in business for many years

  • @dvijay461
    @dvijay461 Год назад

    Things are too expensive in this city and the service keeps going down. From homeless in the trains harassing you to mentally unstable people to packed trains, etc. That’s why people don’t want to pay the corrupt MTA.

  • @josephsmyth3281
    @josephsmyth3281 Год назад +5

    This is why they've implemented congestive pricing so that people will not have to pay their fair share to ride the MTA but charge people to drive in New York City and additionally people will have to pay higher prices for all goods and services in the city to subsidize Fair Invaders

  • @JUGGERNAUT____
    @JUGGERNAUT____ Год назад

    That woman saying "i love it, i love it," like i imagine a hostage under duress would

  • @mejus161
    @mejus161 Год назад +3

    Arrest these people

  • @rubykid15
    @rubykid15 Год назад +2

    As someone from NYC, they don't truly care to solve fair evasion. It's a pervasive issue both on the trains and the buses. The only true solution at this point is to tax NYC residents and make it free.