I just think it’s so funny that like the comic relief character the character that is like treated like they’re stupid and like the goofy one is like the most successful like the richest out of all of them that is the best ending for that character
@@brittoncain5090 It is wierd, for some reason, any time someone writes a gender swap story, they accidentally make the character(s) that swap gender way happier and content as the opposite gender.
@@herowither12354 If they make Max post-op trans just to get around casting Jake T Austin to bring the character Max back, it would be pretty fucked up since it Jake clearly wants to come back and they got all the other actors back already, but it would be kind of funny if they went that specific route.
The only potential problem I see with this is that if you do the math, I’m pretty sure Justin had his oldest son only a few years after the original show ended (unless there is a time skip I am unaware of). Which means he must have broken up with Juliet and met his wife pretty soon after it ended, when he and Juliet would still have appeared similar in age.
I think it’s kind of Occam’s razor honestly, he broke up with her when he got fired from wiztech because he was quitting the wizard world even though he still had powers.
Hi - an older Wizards fan here. I am 28 years old. I am only just pregnant with my first child and can confirm that my daughter is, in fact, not old enough to watch this yet
ikr?? my sister was also an older fan, she just turned 29 and not only is she still childless, all of her friends are as well. they even had to retroactively age justin up for it to remotely make sense for him to have elementary school aged children lmao
The lack of a third space in this show is noticeable. If they aren’t in that damn house they’re at school. Where’s the sandwich shop equivalent? Moving the central setting to a suburb on Staten Island feels so constricting when compared to how much was happening in the restaurant.
I feel like they'd maybe want to avoid Wiz Tech being the main focus because of how similar it is to Harry Potter. I know they actually had to worry about not making those original handful of Wiztech episodes too similar to Harry Potter to avoid getting in legal trouble. I just feel like they'd want to (A) Avoid getting in trouble for the similarities and (B) Avoid being too similar to another story for creative reasons
Until the show states otherwise, my headcanon is that Juliet died in the Unicorn incident at WizTech, and Justin feels like a failure for not being able to stop it - being fired sucks, but the real issue is that someone died because of him. Or Juliet became a unicorn and he feels bad about that. Could go either way with this franchise.
@growingupwithdisney Alex might not know the full story. It could be a cover-up. Wouldn't be the first time the Wizarding World's authority was corrupt or obtrusive.
Regarding the "You can't have powers if you marry a mortal" rule, I feel like it's possible that the rules of the Wizard World have changed since the events of the original series. Maybe even by Alex.
Bailee Madison (played Maxine) has repeatedly expressed her interest to return for the revival, and if they really want to avoid Jake T Austin, they have the opportunity to do the *funniest* thing
Disney just needs to be on board with the trans subtext that would be read into even if it wasn’t intended in the writing. They’ve been playing a lot safe with this.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie Regardless of the subtext or lack there of BACK THEN, their point is that if Max were to return now as Maxine, while being a billionaire with no access to magic, that would make it a fully intentional choice to become a woman again, no possibility of explaining it as another accident
@@RealogOnlyBrodie there was but not really as a trans girl, rather the opposite. a boy was forced into a girls body and hated it the whole time and REALLY wanted to be a boy (again). regardless of intent, the subtext was there. the other person is also right, with no magical explanation, there's not really a *reason* for max to be a girl now without transitioning. both are perfectly fine by me but even if there wasnt and isnt an intent for it to be at least vaguely trans-allegory-adjacent, its still there so theyll have to grapple with that if max is brought back as maxine easiest fix is if they just do some weird magical copy thing, maybe max split himself in two (or asked to be split in two) and is living the high life as a billionare sandwich-eer and had the more silly, reckless parts of himself split off into maxine.
I love how positively delighted Keyan is by all the plotholes in the new Wizards series; it's always refreshing when a youtube critic is able to talk about the flaws of a piece of media in a positive light, without taking the really minor issues too seriously. Getting genuinely irrationally mad about continuity errors and inconsistencies is out, gleefully poking at the seams and rough edges of the things you enjoy is in.
Keyan so clearly loves talking about these goofy-ass kids shows, which I think makes for a way more fun and engaging video than one where the reviewer in question is tearing into something they hate. I’ve strongly tried to avoid that because there’s just way too much negativity online. And I agree with him wholeheartedly about this show, it’s so freaking charming, the kids are all excellent, honestly my only gripe is that we don’t get to see more of Alex and Justin together, because they were always the best part of the original series and it’s so fun to see them together again. But obviously, Selena Gomez is busy with that other show.
@@SunnylandProds and yet it has plotholes and plotholes are major issues (protip: if you have to defend something by saying it's ok that it's bad or has issues because it's a kids schow or not supposed to be good and so on, then you are not intellectually capable enough to have a disccussion about it and should not embarrass yourself in front of other people like that)
@@Soapy-chan Even something where they pay way more attention to continuity like Phineas and Ferb or The Ghost and Molly McGee is bound to have some inconsistencies and plotholes because of the way episodic TV shows are written and produced. That doesn’t make it bad or mean that they didn’t care. Besides, you’re really gonna make a big deal about that with Wizards of all shows? The original show’s logic was messy as hell. That’s honestly part of the fun of this show’s universe is that it makes no damn sense and they make shit up as they go along. Keyan, OP and I are basically over here saying: this is fun! I love this thing! And you’re like: NO, YOU’RE WRONG, YOU SHOULD HATE THIS.
I high-key really like Justin's story I don't find the powers still being there too confusing as it wasn't a family wizard thing, but I think a major incident leading to him leaving wiz tech makes sense. He's a burned out gifted kid who's like 1 consistent trait beyond being smart is that he is STRESSED, especially when it comes to big disasters
I thought about the "wizard genes skipping a generation" idea, maybe that's what Wiztech is for! Jerry could homeschool his kids with their wizard training because they were all around each other with the sub shop. Other post-wizard parents who married mortals may not have that luxury thus sending their kids to Wiztech.
But it makes their laws make even less sense, they want to keep magic hidden from the mortal world but many of them have mortals in their families or living in the magical world as well, they forbid wizards from marrying mortals but what if said mortal is from a wizard family?
I don’t know why they didn’t just hand wave away his kids being mortal because of him losing the competition and was then given crumbs powers so he no longer has access to the Russo family wizard link and thus could not pass the wizard gene on but ultimately still has powers due to it being crumbs or something
I kind of love the vibe of the girl kid lead. She seems like she grew up in the magical world and therefore inherently knows a lot more about magic, instead of learning magic in the mortal world like Alex and Justin did. I think that is her best differentiating factor from Alex. Jerry being the smartest wizard but having basically no backstory about growing up a wizard beyond it ruining his family was a real lost opportunity. In Wizards of Waverly place we all were learning magic with Alex and Justin, but it's cool to see a baseline culture they didn't get in main girl whose name I still haven't remembered.
it would also explain some of the wizard traditions she talks about in the show that were never mentioned before. yes the kids were wizards in the original but they grew up in the real world not the magical world so they wouldn’t know how they celebrate halloween for instance!
I love that “from the clips I’ve seen so far” that adult Alex just seems eternally wine tipsy with how she slurs her speech. She’s literally just still her and that makes me happy
no cause i haven't seen the show but throughout this whole video all i could think about was how CUTE all of billie's hairstyles were!!! i love when you're watching a show and you can just tell the hair and makeup department were having the time of their lives 😭😭
I actually find it endlessly funny that Justin ends up with someone who looks like and is a lot in personality like Harper but is explicitly not Harper. I feel like it keeps his arc but with implications that he did kinda like her without realizing it, its just that they were not at the same timeline to end up with each other in that way. Idk I just think its really funny and kind of sweet even tho yeah he was never hinted at liking her back. I like the idea that they don't get together and he never actively likes her, but subconsciously liked her personality after all. Like, I never saw them together in the original, I just like how this idea makes it weird and layered in my opinion. I'd love to see how Harper and Giada would interact, and if they'd make any jokes about how Harper used to like him or how they're similar. I hope that she doesn't regress into being full on obsessed with him, but that still some funny jokes/dynamics arise from those things.
Maybe Justin tried to have a relationship with Harper but she didn’t want it anymore because she was really over him and was happy with Zeke (maybe they got married), it would be funny to see Giada a little paranoid that Harper could still like Justin but then when she shows up she is very chill and everything is platonic between them
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 yessss thats what I'm saying! :))))) silly stuff that would be funny but also not too overboard as to revert their arcs. I think even like, Harper lightheartedly joking about having liked him could work. And like you said something where Giada is worried but that its not really an issue but still would be a great way for plot shenanigans. There's so much potential here!!!!!! :D
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 I like that idea too like maybe they almost had a thing between the end of the show & the reboot but Harper was happy with Zeke and then Justin at her amicably move on and maybe even that make their platonic friendship bond feeling stronger.
i think the explanation for the seemingly new holiday traditions is that billie was raised 100% in the wizard world vs in the OG show the kids were raised in the human world with mostly human traditions
Jerry grew up as a wizard, ditto for Kelbo and Megan. Unless Teresa told Jerry no wizard traditions there’s no way Jerry wouldn’t have brought it up. It feels like the kind of thing Kelbo would try rope the kids into, perhaps Jerry not being happy.
@@jbcatz5 i feel like jerry would avoid wizard traditions as to not freak out Teresa or make her feel left out but yeah it def is something kelbo would mention but for my own satisfaction im gonna pretend like he forgot lol
@@jbcatz5Jerry, Megan, and Kelso still grew up in the mortal world though. We know that because of the episode where they time travelled to the 1950s and saw Jerry’a grandfather owning the Waverly Sun Station. It’s fun to imagine that there’s different culture with Wizard kids who only grew up in the Wizard world compared to Wizard kids who grew up in the Mortal world.
Maybe the reason the lore is so wild and contradictory is because the magic the wizards use is just altering the fabric of time and reality so stuff just kinda pops into existence and disappears while being woven into history
I feel like it would have been an easier explanation that because Justins powers are not the same ones he had from birth but instead were granted to him so they wouldn't pass on through genetics.
@@luckas221a I guess the grandmaster or previous grandmasters get their own rules. Grandmasters powers don’t get passed down because that would imply an absolute wizard monarchy which we know it’s more of a representation of the American government
I like to think its genetics. The original family were half wizards. When the new family is a quarter, so they probably just dont have that goat blood in them yet. Whats probably happening is that their powers will come to them later then usual instead of not at all. Saving that moment for the end of season 1, so they can make more of an impact for the next upcoming season.
Every time a recorded audience cheers at someone the adults knows, I always love to think about the ACTUAL target audience’s reaction. “Huh? Why are we cheering? Are we supposed to know who this guy is? Did he win an Oscar or something?” In the case of the pilot, I thought “oh, he’s the dad? There’s this other show I was watching and no one cheered when the main characters’ parents walked in the room in the first episode.” And it makes me remember all those times it happened when I was a kid like Dolly Parton’s first appearance on Hannah Montana.
it’s giving that time that the guest star on Hannah Montana was Rob Reiner and Disney channel tried very very hard to get my twelve-year-old-girl ass excited about it
That's actually what many people experienced with Girls meets world! I believe some of this kids now are confused (even though there is higher possibly they saw wizards since it's one of the biggest shows, quite resent and they like to bring back older shows from time to time)
I actually don’t have a problem with Justin’s kids mimicking Alex, Max, and himself? Jerry and his siblings match Alex, Max, and Justin so it does make sense.
Justin’s kids powers are explained in the original series. In the episode called Doll House in the original series, Alex reveals to Haper that she did not know she was a wizard when she was 5, and if she did she would have shrunk herself down and played in the doll house. Also in the first episode, Max gets his first wand and a few episodes later he gets his full powers and has to wear a funny hat to control them. This means that Max had just gotten his powers a few weeks before the series began, Since Max was around the age of 12 in the first season, its safe to assume that Roman will be getting his powers soon.
funny thing Giada was technically mentioned in the OG series as someone Alex said was in Justin league the one who works at the craft shop with a head shaped like a rain drop.
i was waiting for this! - i was also confused when people were like giada should've just been harper like no, they were never love interest, it was always a crush played for jokes,and by the end of that show, they acted more like siblings than anything else. if harper was to come back, which i could see happen, i see her as relating to billie as someone who was taken in by the russos, and also, cuz she had a chill relationship with justin when she wasn't crushing on him, i do see them as being friends in adult life. but its one of those adult friendships where you never see each other bc you're both too busy, but when you see each other, it's like old times. - i was also confused when they introduced all these cool layers about who knows what in the pilot but then immediately did away with it. i get why, but i would've liked to have a bit more of it. - also i think there is no way the kids don't have magic. i know they said that one line, but they have to develop some kind of magic at some point, surely
a good plotpoint could actually be only one of them getting their powers (or one of them gets it sooner than the other, maybe the younger one) and they bond with their new adopted sister more, causing a rift between the kids and also maybe with justin. then obviously everything resolves because magic shouldnt be everything or something (i forget the kids names lol)
I love Wizards Beyond Waverly Place it's just like the original. The jokes are funny, the plots are cute, and the low-budget special effects are hilarious. I am thoroughly enjoying it.
I watched about 10 minutes of this episode and I just couldn’t do it. I was not having a good time with this but I congratulate anyone who did. You are stronger than I am.
The child actors in this show are so hard to watch… the acting is so stiff and clunky. The acting in the original Wizards so great compared to this crop. I feel bad saying it but the acting by Billy’s character makes this unwatchable
Modern Disney channel acting is sooo stiff, I don’t think it’s not nostalgia because I can watch other things like Andi Mack that I didn’t grow up watching have acting that feels natural. It’s just seems harder for them to write scripts that don’t sound like exposition dumps
On the "created by Todd J. Greenwald" thing, there might be some legal requirement to credit him as the creator even if he has little to no involvement in this spin-off. Henry Danger's spin-off, Danger Force, credits Dan Schneider and Dana Olsen, who created Henry Danger as the series creators, despite neither being involved with Danger Force. I'd assume the same rules apply here.
I mean typically the norm is to do "based on the series (or characters) created by (guy who created original thing)" and then a "developed by (guys who would normally be given the creator credit if it wasn't an adaptive work)". And this show does still have the "developed by" credit. The only real logic I can see to using the "created by" credit here is that it's legally considered the same show instead of a spin-off. The reasoning behind this not being a new show I assume is not completely consistent, similar to how the WAG gave the writers of the original RoboCop a shared "written by" credit of the 2014 reboot with the actual writer of the movie instead of the normal "Based on Characters Created By", even though that movie has a (in my opinion) different plot and an objectively different script that should bare minimum deny them a "Screenplay By" credit if not "Story By".
I'm not neccesarily upset at the direction this show took, but as a continuation focusing on Justin, I would've loved to see him as headmaster of WizTech or even just following in his dad's footsteps and preparing his kids for the family wizard competition.
I think that Roman and Milo could have powers but it’ll probably come when they’re thirteen or when puberty hits because remember the episode where Max got his full powers when he was thirteen or when puberty hit. I’m thinking when puberty hits for Roman, he’s going to have powers. Plus they said it CAN skip a generation so it’s a possibility that it didn’t
I think the "it can skip generations" line was probably just a retcon because they didn't want to focus on Roman and Milo having powers. Which is fine, that's a good direction for the show to take, but it is still a retcon.
14:00 Yeah, they definitely did... in their defense, though Jerry, Megan, and Kelbo Russo were also made to be very similar to Justin, Alex, and Max Russo. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's meant to parallel each generation
@@purelysmetalnightcore nah, david was throwing shade first in that interview quiz clip, bro should have just not mentioned anything kept his comments to himself
@@debo-starv "I can't believe one of these people is here" is such a weird comment to get worked up about though. Honestly if I were Dan, I'd be feeling the same way - why would someone at Disney but a porn star in that list that they then showed to kids? I think it was more a dig towards the person who made that list, which is valid.
@@purelysmetalnightcoreYeah, you can't publically make porn as your career and then be upset that squeaky clean Disney Channel doesn't want to associate with you lol.
32:30 i think some people said it would be the return of evil alex. I hope the dark figure is Gorag, just because he was a ridiculous villian who is the main villian of wizards and it would honestly make me laugh if they decide to bring him back.
My guess for why Justin still has his powers is because he was given “Full Wizardry” before meeting Giada. But this is flimsy as Alex lost her powers after becoming family wizard in the sequel movie, so this is really a teetering reason, ready to fall.
It's something i was a little worried about but you put it more clearly and it makes it very apparent that David Henrie has a lot of biases that's influencing this show and he's gotten this position because he's still the closest from the original with Selena Gomez. In the original show the one episode i really didn't like was the episode where Justin screws up Alex's award acceptance speech at school because she pranked him only for her to be ostracised by the entire school and outside one little moment where he tries to distract people, justin really does not see how badly him messing up Alex's reputation was and how much it affected her, and justin also doesn't suffer any consequence from that, and learning later on it's one of the few episodes where David Henrie wrote it himself, it just feels like an unfortunate addage that David while he does have the passion to bring the show back it feels very much like his own rendition of the previous show and later on it can really suffer that if certain things or people don't happen because real life david henrie doesn't like it. I myself have been enjoying the show and i think it's really fun despite there being a lot of annoyances. The kids are really great and it's nice to see the adults being a bit more involved this time around and i am intrigued on where this show is heading.
While the new kids are similar to the old cast there are some differences. Alex used magic to get out of doing work and to do schemes. Billie uses magic for fun and never thinks before she does spells. Roman is more laid back than Justin. Max was dumb but Milo is more of a wild card who is go with the flow than stupid.
At least from the clips you've shown here, Selena's acting has gotten a lot better. Like, she's able to make these sorts of hard-hitting stilted disney lines work well.
I feel like so many people hate the show for not being some grand plot focusing on the coolest most intense and deep parts of the original with a focus on adults and maturity etc. But its not that, and it was never going to be that. It's a return to form, and it's FUN. And yeah, theres flaws with it (especially dealing with continuity from the original). Also hot take but I didn't think the child actors were bad, I thought they did a pretty good job actually.
If they want to bring Max back, but not bring Jake back, they could always find Maxine’s actress and make some comment about Max deciding to try something new somehow. I dunno if that makes sense, but it sounds fancy,
Since max is a rich billionaire now, Maxine could just be how he goes out in public to avoid unwanted attention from the media, especially when visiting his family. Kinda like a reverse Shakira/ kelbo situation.
Considering there was an undercurrent of monster discrimination in the OG show they could have had Juliet recast and made a show about Justin or Alex's half monster/half wizard children. That way they could have done something different with the premise, addressed wizard world problems and still maintained plotlines from the original.
And to think, at the same time that Selena Gomez is involved with an acclaimed comedy series with industry legends Martin Short and Steve Martin, she's also doing this show. Funny how these things occasionally work out.
I've been defending those guys this whole time because Kyle Norty got me into Best Friends Whenever and now I think that show was underrated. But I feel like this show has the same issue as Raven's Home, mainly the fifth season, where they're struggling to make the entire plot make sense. For one example, breaking up Justin and Juliet like how they broke up Raven and Devon. At least with the latter, you could argue they still love each other and maybe they couldn't handle a long distance relationship with their jobs. IDK.
Its probably because Selena Gomez was into the idea and she has enough clout to make it happen. Plus there was seemingly enough fan outcry to make it worth it for them.
26:02 I love how the camera changes angels but the background doesn't change, they didn't even bother to have the editor move the background slightly to make it look different from a different angle, there is two glowing dots on the mid-left side that just stay in place as the camera switches between the actors.
Imagine if instead of bringin back normal max they bring up that girl that played max for like a season Edit: seeing the comments I have to say one thing "GUARDS! TRANS THEIR GENDER!" We getting Maxine
I AGREE 100% on your point about Selena Gomez, David Henrie gearing this show toward himself, and having only people he likes coming back. Jennifer Stone makes the most sense to come back, and having Harper married to Justin, since we don't have Juliet/Bridgit. I know Harper got over her feelings in season 3..but they can retcon that just like everything else, or just explain Justin grew feelings for her and she supported him after being fired or something. I think David and Jennifer's poor relationship is why he has a new wife in this series. I don't see those two being paired up for this show, because they don't seem to like each other. I see why, they both seem controlling and stubborn, but unfortunately things are in David's favor due to his close relationship with Selena Gomez
@@growingupwithdisney I can’t be the only one here who doesn’t see any chemistry between Justin and Harper in the original series, especially since she clearly got over him. I always saw Justin with Juliet or a mortal based on how his parents story goes. Since history is supposed to repeat itself. Even if David and Jen were best friends I don’t think he’d write her in the show as his wife because nobody actually wants that to happen.
@ I don’t see chemistry either, but it’d be kinda funny to think about how that happened. Disney Channel parents don’t need chemistry, they just need to be fun characters with a funny dynamic. They could’ve wrote Justin and Harper that way. The thought didn’t occur to me though until my sister brought it up, I see why David or anyone in the show probably didn’t think of it The person I personally REALLY wanted in this new series was Max/Jake T Austin. I feel like his dynamic with Justin would’ve been great to see. And seeing how he’s a different kind of authority figure over the kids, and having him be contrasted with Justin’s way of teaching/being. Since we don’t have Alex as a main character, Max seems like the best alternative to me, and they can build their sibling dynamic. Plus the show needs a third place, it could’ve been the Waverly Sub-station with Max as a main character too
Todd J. Greenwald gets the "Created by" credit because of creating the original show. They did the same thing on Raven's Home (created by the same duo as this show) giving Michael Poryes & Susan Sherman a "Created by" credit. Also Suite Life on Deck did the same thing. I think Cory in the House is the only sequel show Disney has done that just did a "Characters Created by" credit instead In a Deadline article, it was revealed during their visit, that he was in attendance and gave his approval: "Greenwald gave just about the best stamp of approval he could’ve when, as the scene got going, he broke out into a grin, chuckling as the jokes flew around. That, everyone agrees, was a moment of great satisfaction." One of the developers of the show, Scott Thomas also said this in response to that "We’re sort of step parents, meeting the dad for the first time and going, ‘Hey, we are raising your kids. I hope we’re doing a good job,. But he couldn’t have been nicer. He couldn’t have been more gracious. We really appreciate that…It was very rewarding when we got through the cold open and he was laughing.”
Yapping as in "quit yapping", "the friends were happily yapping" "stop yer' yapping" etc. etc. has been used for ages, usually negative/neutral. And I considered it as slightly antiquated. However I've noticed it become more popular and used as a positive on tiktok/RUclips. Instead of "lemme chat to you guys" it's become "lemme yap to you guys" and comments like "I could listen to you yap all day" or "post more I need more of you yapping about x". To me it's felt like a fun resurgence of the slang 😊
this was such a delightful video to watch lol the way you're so clearly enthusiastic about it got ME excited about the same things as you even though i'm nowhere near as much of a hardcore fan
So happy to see you finally cover this! I binged the first ten episodes a few weeks ago and it felt so fun to watch. Hope we don't have to wait too long for the rest of Season 1 to come out!
The only thing I remember from Pair of Kings is there was an entire episode built around a little kid, treating him like the most special character ever. I don’t know if he won a contest or was part of a make a wish foundation, but you could tell it wasn’t a regular episode.
my issue with the show is that it seems too aged down? like i didn’t necessarily expect it to go the icarly route and stay with it’s initial audience, but i did think they’d shoot for the same audience as the original show did, preteens and teens. but the revival seems like its for older kids and preteens. Like how Justin and Alex were in high-school, meanwhile Billie and Roman go to middle school. And even some of the plots, while reminiscent of the old wizards, feel more childish than before. I initially thought it made a bit of sense, since Max didn’t have powers at the start of the show either/just got them ? so in theory, it would be like a puberty type thing. Meaning they could make Billie older/an early bloomer, and explain why Justin isn’t teaching the kids, because they don’t have powers yet. They could even frame it as “we dont know if we will have powers.” It would also help further explain Justin’s powers, bc I rationalized it as -winning the wizard competition meant you carried the “wizard gene.” Jerry married a mortal, and lost his powers, but bc he was the wizard competition winner, he carried the gene to his children. (I believe that is how the show explicitly explained why they have magic and Jerry doesnt) So following that logic, Alex kept the wizard gene. Justin’s powers came from a “gift” from Crums, therefore he didnt lose it by falling in love with a mortal (something we can suspend disbelief for as being genetically related, like your magic rejecting the commitment of marriage to a mortal, and getting wiped out by it. But still being a carrier of it, even if you no longer have the “symptoms” yourself.) This is a good set up for both giving the kids magic down the line, and not doing that. Because Justin and by extension the audience wouldn’t know if the gifted powers Justin has could be passed down, since they aren’t genetically his. But the “skip a generation” doesn’t seem promising, and I think the show structure would work better with slightly older characters. And its not even a casting issue, Selena was about 14/15 when filming the first season, so I don’t think they need to look older necessarily. Though it really feels like no one is catering to the pre-teen to teen audience. A show that kids 10-15 could watch while both relating to it, and viewing the “older” characters as role models. Shows for those transition from preteen to pre adult. Everything (especially the reboots) seem to cater really hard either to the child to preteen demographic, or the 16+ demographic, with no space for the in between. which is crazy when disney and nick used to have almost a dozen at a time
I felt this too. Is there just not a market for teenager-oriented television anymore? I could buy that. If that is the case I imagine most of them are either graduating to more adult-oriented shows or just injecting video essays directly into their eyesockets. The setting and cast of the revival feels so limited compared to the original.
So far it’s been better then the last season of the og show. It also feels like there’s some actual high stakes. I remember so many times in the old show they act like they were in such a tight bind when they really weren’t.
I watched this as a kid and loved it I’m 26 now and still love it, I can’t wait to watch this renewal, Selena is such a great actor. I hope her and mason are still together
Sadly, with the current climate, where most shows get like 10 episodes and get cancelled after first or second season, shows cannot really afford to keep this kind of plots for multiple episodes, and in effect, everything is rushed and exmplain, to not leave lose ends in case show would get cancelled after one season
Calling it now, if this show goes on Roman and Milo have their "latent wizard abilities" unlock or some other macguffin to give them powers too by like season 3. Or even 2 with how fast paced the show seems already.
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I bet this is what the alt right wanted. And Dave Fintoli the ringleader of the fandom menace convinced Disney to greenlit this.
My left ear really enjoyed that RayCon ad.
28 years olds do have 5 years old children
Might be the best ad-read I've ever seen holy shit
Good on zakes actor, i mean he is hot.
I love that canonically max is like the richest out of all of them. I love that for him.
I just think it’s so funny that like the comic relief character the character that is like treated like they’re stupid and like the goofy one is like the most successful like the richest out of all of them that is the best ending for that character
@@elenaporras3145 The best ending for Max would be Billionaire MaxINE. She seemed really happy as a girl.
@@herowither12354I'm ngl, this is weird lol
@@brittoncain5090 It is wierd, for some reason, any time someone writes a gender swap story, they accidentally make the character(s) that swap gender way happier and content as the opposite gender.
@@herowither12354 If they make Max post-op trans just to get around casting Jake T Austin to bring the character Max back, it would be pretty fucked up since it Jake clearly wants to come back and they got all the other actors back already, but it would be kind of funny if they went that specific route.
Best in-universe explanation I can think of for Juliet is that Justin aged into an adult and she remained a teenager.
This one actually makes the most sense, cause she was like hundreds of years old already anyway.
The only potential problem I see with this is that if you do the math, I’m pretty sure Justin had his oldest son only a few years after the original show ended (unless there is a time skip I am unaware of). Which means he must have broken up with Juliet and met his wife pretty soon after it ended, when he and Juliet would still have appeared similar in age.
In my opinion, they ate her
@@Quinhala11 That is also a possibility.
I think it’s kind of Occam’s razor honestly, he broke up with her when he got fired from wiztech because he was quitting the wizard world even though he still had powers.
Hi - an older Wizards fan here. I am 28 years old. I am only just pregnant with my first child and can confirm that my daughter is, in fact, not old enough to watch this yet
ikr?? my sister was also an older fan, she just turned 29 and not only is she still childless, all of her friends are as well. they even had to retroactively age justin up for it to remotely make sense for him to have elementary school aged children lmao
@@catazoe7535I mean, tbf, my mom had 6 kids by the time she turned 31, and had kids in elementary school by 25
Im 27 with a 4 and 5 year old and can also confirm they’re still too young for it too 😂
I'm 20 (almost 21) and grew up with Wizards so...yeah no kids here lmao
I'm 27 and about to have my first next week, which definitely makes her not old enough to watch lol
The lack of a third space in this show is noticeable. If they aren’t in that damn house they’re at school. Where’s the sandwich shop equivalent? Moving the central setting to a suburb on Staten Island feels so constricting when compared to how much was happening in the restaurant.
I agree completely, they have too many rooms in the house
staten island but theyre interchangeable anyway
I think it’s because they’re implying no one goes out anymore.
Helped that the sandwich shop was so open too. There was allot of space and it prevented the settings from feeling too cramped.
It would be fun if their uncle opened up a sandwich branch in their suburb.
A sequel set at Wiz Tech with Justin as headmaster and his kids as students……it was right there……
Yeah but then they loose the whole wizards in the human world aspect…
I feel like they'd maybe want to avoid Wiz Tech being the main focus because of how similar it is to Harry Potter. I know they actually had to worry about not making those original handful of Wiztech episodes too similar to Harry Potter to avoid getting in legal trouble. I just feel like they'd want to (A) Avoid getting in trouble for the similarities and (B) Avoid being too similar to another story for creative reasons
@@Lydia-dd9bo Now they namedropped it - so they know it exists, at least.
Ok girl meets world I see you
Yeah I would’ve liked that even more
Until the show states otherwise, my headcanon is that Juliet died in the Unicorn incident at WizTech, and Justin feels like a failure for not being able to stop it - being fired sucks, but the real issue is that someone died because of him. Or Juliet became a unicorn and he feels bad about that. Could go either way with this franchise.
I believe Juliet had something to do with the Unicorn incident
but Alex was laughing about the incident, it wouldn't be funny AT ALL if Juliet passed during that
@growingupwithdisney Alex might not know the full story. It could be a cover-up. Wouldn't be the first time the Wizarding World's authority was corrupt or obtrusive.
Juliet became that unicorn and rampaged Wiztech.
That’s depressing
4:10 dude there was an entire episode for alex's quinceañera she 100% had a birthday ep
Yep
Bro fell off /sarcasm
he isnt a living breathing disney wikipedia and actually gets this wrongs sometimes??? What the F-
well shit
i was gonna comment this too!😊
Regarding the "You can't have powers if you marry a mortal" rule, I feel like it's possible that the rules of the Wizard World have changed since the events of the original series. Maybe even by Alex.
Through grassroots political campaigning?
Or a fire spell in the Hall Of Records?
I’d like to imagine Alex also help to abolish the Family Wizard thing, being the change and reform needed from the inside.
@@MmmMmph1968 both, she tried the first one and that didn't work so time for fire. 😂
Bailee Madison (played Maxine) has repeatedly expressed her interest to return for the revival, and if they really want to avoid Jake T Austin, they have the opportunity to do the *funniest* thing
Plus David Henrie and Bailee worked together in 2020 and he directed a movie for her so they seem to like eachother
Disney just needs to be on board with the trans subtext that would be read into even if it wasn’t intended in the writing. They’ve been playing a lot safe with this.
@@jbcatz5 there isn’t really any trans subtext in that storyline tbh. It was a weird choice that worked because of the context of the show.
@@RealogOnlyBrodie Regardless of the subtext or lack there of BACK THEN, their point is that if Max were to return now as Maxine, while being a billionaire with no access to magic, that would make it a fully intentional choice to become a woman again, no possibility of explaining it as another accident
@@RealogOnlyBrodie there was but not really as a trans girl, rather the opposite. a boy was forced into a girls body and hated it the whole time and REALLY wanted to be a boy (again). regardless of intent, the subtext was there.
the other person is also right, with no magical explanation, there's not really a *reason* for max to be a girl now without transitioning. both are perfectly fine by me but even if there wasnt and isnt an intent for it to be at least vaguely trans-allegory-adjacent, its still there so theyll have to grapple with that if max is brought back as maxine
easiest fix is if they just do some weird magical copy thing, maybe max split himself in two (or asked to be split in two) and is living the high life as a billionare sandwich-eer and had the more silly, reckless parts of himself split off into maxine.
I love how positively delighted Keyan is by all the plotholes in the new Wizards series; it's always refreshing when a youtube critic is able to talk about the flaws of a piece of media in a positive light, without taking the really minor issues too seriously. Getting genuinely irrationally mad about continuity errors and inconsistencies is out, gleefully poking at the seams and rough edges of the things you enjoy is in.
Keyan so clearly loves talking about these goofy-ass kids shows, which I think makes for a way more fun and engaging video than one where the reviewer in question is tearing into something they hate. I’ve strongly tried to avoid that because there’s just way too much negativity online.
And I agree with him wholeheartedly about this show, it’s so freaking charming, the kids are all excellent, honestly my only gripe is that we don’t get to see more of Alex and Justin together, because they were always the best part of the original series and it’s so fun to see them together again. But obviously, Selena Gomez is busy with that other show.
the plotholes arent minor issues though
@@Soapy-chan it’s a friggin Disney Channel sitcom
@@SunnylandProds and yet it has plotholes and plotholes are major issues
(protip: if you have to defend something by saying it's ok that it's bad or has issues because it's a kids schow or not supposed to be good and so on, then you are not intellectually capable enough to have a disccussion about it and should not embarrass yourself in front of other people like that)
@@Soapy-chan Even something where they pay way more attention to continuity like Phineas and Ferb or The Ghost and Molly McGee is bound to have some inconsistencies and plotholes because of the way episodic TV shows are written and produced. That doesn’t make it bad or mean that they didn’t care.
Besides, you’re really gonna make a big deal about that with Wizards of all shows? The original show’s logic was messy as hell. That’s honestly part of the fun of this show’s universe is that it makes no damn sense and they make shit up as they go along.
Keyan, OP and I are basically over here saying: this is fun! I love this thing! And you’re like: NO, YOU’RE WRONG, YOU SHOULD HATE THIS.
I high-key really like Justin's story
I don't find the powers still being there too confusing as it wasn't a family wizard thing, but I think a major incident leading to him leaving wiz tech makes sense. He's a burned out gifted kid who's like 1 consistent trait beyond being smart is that he is STRESSED, especially when it comes to big disasters
I thought about the "wizard genes skipping a generation" idea, maybe that's what Wiztech is for! Jerry could homeschool his kids with their wizard training because they were all around each other with the sub shop. Other post-wizard parents who married mortals may not have that luxury thus sending their kids to Wiztech.
I actually love this!!!
that was my thought too!!
I feel like this explanation is to smart for the show ngl. Great theory tho!
But it makes their laws make even less sense, they want to keep magic hidden from the mortal world but many of them have mortals in their families or living in the magical world as well, they forbid wizards from marrying mortals but what if said mortal is from a wizard family?
I don’t know why they didn’t just hand wave away his kids being mortal because of him losing the competition and was then given crumbs powers so he no longer has access to the Russo family wizard link and thus could not pass the wizard gene on but ultimately still has powers due to it being crumbs or something
I kind of love the vibe of the girl kid lead. She seems like she grew up in the magical world and therefore inherently knows a lot more about magic, instead of learning magic in the mortal world like Alex and Justin did. I think that is her best differentiating factor from Alex. Jerry being the smartest wizard but having basically no backstory about growing up a wizard beyond it ruining his family was a real lost opportunity. In Wizards of Waverly place we all were learning magic with Alex and Justin, but it's cool to see a baseline culture they didn't get in main girl whose name I still haven't remembered.
Billy
@luckas221a thank you 😂
The only problem is that how openly she reveals magic. Revealing magic to mortals is a BIG no no in the Wizard World
it would also explain some of the wizard traditions she talks about in the show that were never mentioned before. yes the kids were wizards in the original but they grew up in the real world not the magical world so they wouldn’t know how they celebrate halloween for instance!
I love that “from the clips I’ve seen so far” that adult Alex just seems eternally wine tipsy with how she slurs her speech. She’s literally just still her and that makes me happy
IMO the monster thing is clearly a "You created it, so only YOU can get rid of it!" type of situation
my favorite thing about this show is the amount of creative styles done to billies box braids!! its giving me so much inspiration for hairstyles😍😍😍
no cause i haven't seen the show but throughout this whole video all i could think about was how CUTE all of billie's hairstyles were!!! i love when you're watching a show and you can just tell the hair and makeup department were having the time of their lives 😭😭
@@clover2309the hair department is probably only there for her😹
I actually find it endlessly funny that Justin ends up with someone who looks like and is a lot in personality like Harper but is explicitly not Harper. I feel like it keeps his arc but with implications that he did kinda like her without realizing it, its just that they were not at the same timeline to end up with each other in that way. Idk I just think its really funny and kind of sweet even tho yeah he was never hinted at liking her back. I like the idea that they don't get together and he never actively likes her, but subconsciously liked her personality after all. Like, I never saw them together in the original, I just like how this idea makes it weird and layered in my opinion. I'd love to see how Harper and Giada would interact, and if they'd make any jokes about how Harper used to like him or how they're similar. I hope that she doesn't regress into being full on obsessed with him, but that still some funny jokes/dynamics arise from those things.
Yeah, it's like Jungian or some shit
id love to see harpers character come back!!
Maybe Justin tried to have a relationship with Harper but she didn’t want it anymore because she was really over him and was happy with Zeke (maybe they got married), it would be funny to see Giada a little paranoid that Harper could still like Justin but then when she shows up she is very chill and everything is platonic between them
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 yessss thats what I'm saying! :))))) silly stuff that would be funny but also not too overboard as to revert their arcs. I think even like, Harper lightheartedly joking about having liked him could work. And like you said something where Giada is worried but that its not really an issue but still would be a great way for plot shenanigans. There's so much potential here!!!!!! :D
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 I like that idea too like maybe they almost had a thing between the end of the show & the reboot but Harper was happy with Zeke and then Justin at her amicably move on and maybe even that make their platonic friendship bond feeling stronger.
i think the explanation for the seemingly new holiday traditions is that billie was raised 100% in the wizard world vs in the OG show the kids were raised in the human world with mostly human traditions
Jerry grew up as a wizard, ditto for Kelbo and Megan. Unless Teresa told Jerry no wizard traditions there’s no way Jerry wouldn’t have brought it up. It feels like the kind of thing Kelbo would try rope the kids into, perhaps Jerry not being happy.
@@jbcatz5 i feel like jerry would avoid wizard traditions as to not freak out Teresa or make her feel left out but yeah it def is something kelbo would mention but for my own satisfaction im gonna pretend like he forgot lol
@@jbcatz5Jerry, Megan, and Kelso still grew up in the mortal world though. We know that because of the episode where they time travelled to the 1950s and saw Jerry’a grandfather owning the Waverly Sun Station. It’s fun to imagine that there’s different culture with Wizard kids who only grew up in the Wizard world compared to Wizard kids who grew up in the Mortal world.
Maybe the reason the lore is so wild and contradictory is because the magic the wizards use is just altering the fabric of time and reality so stuff just kinda pops into existence and disappears while being woven into history
Thank you, yes.
Yeah ill accept that into my worldview
I feel like it would have been an easier explanation that because Justins powers are not the same ones he had from birth but instead were granted to him so they wouldn't pass on through genetics.
but Jerry didn’t even have any powers and he still passed them on
@@luckas221a I guess the grandmaster or previous grandmasters get their own rules. Grandmasters powers don’t get passed down because that would imply an absolute wizard monarchy which we know it’s more of a representation of the American government
I like to think its genetics. The original family were half wizards. When the new family is a quarter, so they probably just dont have that goat blood in them yet.
Whats probably happening is that their powers will come to them later then usual instead of not at all. Saving that moment for the end of season 1, so they can make more of an impact for the next upcoming season.
@trystenbelanger5275 this and then it could be yet another mirror to the OG show having the competition looming for the rest of the reboot
nothing could've prepared me for the fact that kai cenat did a good luck charlie reunion stream
It’s actually really wholesome to see the cast is still passionate about the universe and the characters
it's too bad only one actor gets their way though
@@growingupwithdisneytypically how it goes with man babies in hollywood
Every time a recorded audience cheers at someone the adults knows, I always love to think about the ACTUAL target audience’s reaction. “Huh? Why are we cheering? Are we supposed to know who this guy is? Did he win an Oscar or something?” In the case of the pilot, I thought “oh, he’s the dad? There’s this other show I was watching and no one cheered when the main characters’ parents walked in the room in the first episode.” And it makes me remember all those times it happened when I was a kid like Dolly Parton’s first appearance on Hannah Montana.
it’s giving that time that the guest star on Hannah Montana was Rob Reiner and Disney channel tried very very hard to get my twelve-year-old-girl ass excited about it
You copy and pasted this comment from anothet video.
It’s hilarious.
That's actually what many people experienced with Girls meets world! I believe some of this kids now are confused (even though there is higher possibly they saw wizards since it's one of the biggest shows, quite resent and they like to bring back older shows from time to time)
@@olakeska7908that happened to me, i am 23 and watched girl meets world without knowing its a reboot 😂 i was a bit confused ngl
39:54 Missed a huge opportunity to say 'everything is not as it seems.'
I actually don’t have a problem with Justin’s kids mimicking Alex, Max, and himself? Jerry and his siblings match Alex, Max, and Justin so it does make sense.
Justin’s kids powers are explained in the original series. In the episode called Doll House in the original series, Alex reveals to Haper that she did not know she was a wizard when she was 5, and if she did she would have shrunk herself down and played in the doll house. Also in the first episode, Max gets his first wand and a few episodes later he gets his full powers and has to wear a funny hat to control them. This means that Max had just gotten his powers a few weeks before the series began, Since Max was around the age of 12 in the first season, its safe to assume that Roman will be getting his powers soon.
funny thing Giada was technically mentioned in the OG series as someone Alex said was in Justin league the one who works at the craft shop with a head shaped like a rain drop.
What episode? If you know 🎉
@sadkidsaesthetic7253 I'll double check and get back to you
@@sadkidsaesthetic7253 Season 4 episode 8 Dancing with Angels but it was just the way Alex was saying it so I was just mishearing I think
I’m with Dan Benson on this one. Who could say no to that elephant trunk
Also, not shocked David Henrie passed shame onto a sex worker, dude is a conservative pastor...
@TheViera13 What is wrong that? You act like being a "conservative pastor" is a bad thing. Why is that?
@@TheViera13 Which means he should not pass judgment, especially for no reason. Whats he doing promoting witchcraft anyways?
i was waiting for this!
- i was also confused when people were like giada should've just been harper like no, they were never love interest, it was always a crush played for jokes,and by the end of that show, they acted more like siblings than anything else. if harper was to come back, which i could see happen, i see her as relating to billie as someone who was taken in by the russos, and also, cuz she had a chill relationship with justin when she wasn't crushing on him, i do see them as being friends in adult life. but its one of those adult friendships where you never see each other bc you're both too busy, but when you see each other, it's like old times.
- i was also confused when they introduced all these cool layers about who knows what in the pilot but then immediately did away with it. i get why, but i would've liked to have a bit more of it.
- also i think there is no way the kids don't have magic. i know they said that one line, but they have to develop some kind of magic at some point, surely
a good plotpoint could actually be only one of them getting their powers (or one of them gets it sooner than the other, maybe the younger one) and they bond with their new adopted sister more, causing a rift between the kids and also maybe with justin. then obviously everything resolves because magic shouldnt be everything or something
(i forget the kids names lol)
@@coatimundi69 yeah i thought so too
My favorite part of the show is when Justin says “It’s Justin Time!” And Justin’s all over the place.
I'm more of a Justout guy, personally
still?
My favorite part of the video is when I open the comments and the first one I see is creative, clever, funny, original, and insightful.
@@Quinhala11 Trueeee, my comment definitely is
That's why they call him 🅱️ustin
I love Wizards Beyond Waverly Place it's just like the original. The jokes are funny, the plots are cute, and the low-budget special effects are hilarious. I am thoroughly enjoying it.
I watched about 10 minutes of this episode and I just couldn’t do it. I was not having a good time with this but I congratulate anyone who did. You are stronger than I am.
The child actors in this show are so hard to watch… the acting is so stiff and clunky. The acting in the original Wizards so great compared to this crop. I feel bad saying it but the acting by Billy’s character makes this unwatchable
@@MashaRistova I thought she was good, the stand-out to me is the youngest boy Milo/Max
Modern Disney channel acting is sooo stiff, I don’t think it’s not nostalgia because I can watch other things like Andi Mack that I didn’t grow up watching have acting that feels natural. It’s just seems harder for them to write scripts that don’t sound like exposition dumps
@@MashaRistovai agree!!
On the "created by Todd J. Greenwald" thing, there might be some legal requirement to credit him as the creator even if he has little to no involvement in this spin-off. Henry Danger's spin-off, Danger Force, credits Dan Schneider and Dana Olsen, who created Henry Danger as the series creators, despite neither being involved with Danger Force. I'd assume the same rules apply here.
I mean typically the norm is to do "based on the series (or characters) created by (guy who created original thing)" and then a "developed by (guys who would normally be given the creator credit if it wasn't an adaptive work)". And this show does still have the "developed by" credit. The only real logic I can see to using the "created by" credit here is that it's legally considered the same show instead of a spin-off.
The reasoning behind this not being a new show I assume is not completely consistent, similar to how the WAG gave the writers of the original RoboCop a shared "written by" credit of the 2014 reboot with the actual writer of the movie instead of the normal "Based on Characters Created By", even though that movie has a (in my opinion) different plot and an objectively different script that should bare minimum deny them a "Screenplay By" credit if not "Story By".
I love the creative ways some shows try to disguse the show creator if they turn out to be asshole, like dimming the name down so it's barely visible
I'm not neccesarily upset at the direction this show took, but as a continuation focusing on Justin, I would've loved to see him as headmaster of WizTech or even just following in his dad's footsteps and preparing his kids for the family wizard competition.
2 videos in the same month? The power of Wizards of Waverly Place
I think that Roman and Milo could have powers but it’ll probably come when they’re thirteen or when puberty hits because remember the episode where Max got his full powers when he was thirteen or when puberty hit. I’m thinking when puberty hits for Roman, he’s going to have powers. Plus they said it CAN skip a generation so it’s a possibility that it didn’t
I think the "it can skip generations" line was probably just a retcon because they didn't want to focus on Roman and Milo having powers. Which is fine, that's a good direction for the show to take, but it is still a retcon.
4:39 max is now a billionaire, you guys know what we gotta do... we gotta eat him
In my opinion, they ate him.
In a submarine sandwich, yum
... wait no I forgot billionaires dont like submarines anymore
would.
@@debo-starv IN MY OPINION, THE SUBS WERE EATEN
Good luck eating his brains. His dad says he has a thick skull
You know if David wanted to be really petty, he could bring back Rachel Dratch who was Future Harper in season 2 to play “Present Harper”.
God, my ears tingled when you revealed that there are 5 Selena Gomez lookalikes in the wizard verse. Idk why my Asperger’s loves stuff like that haha
4:13 Alex did have her birthday celebrated with the quince nera episode
Crap! You’re right.
@@KeyanCarlilethis episode is becoming your nemesis
Correct quince in Spanish is fifteen the same way as Jews has Bat Mitzvahs in which Gal Gadot’s eldest daughter had
@@KeyanCarlile
Wasn’t there was one that Alex fought an Evil Clone of Herself.
And Milo appeared in the original series as max’s conscious so the ages of Justin and Alex is lore breaking .
Alex has the quinceañera episode for her birthday episode! Max is the only one never getting a birthday episode.
14:00 Yeah, they definitely did... in their defense, though Jerry, Megan, and Kelbo Russo were also made to be very similar to Justin, Alex, and Max Russo. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it's meant to parallel each generation
David Henrie blocking Dan Benson might be a contender for the Top 10 Anime Betrayals list.
Dan instigated it with that Tweet.
@@purelysmetalnightcore nah, david was throwing shade first in that interview quiz clip, bro should have just not mentioned anything kept his comments to himself
@@debo-starv "I can't believe one of these people is here" is such a weird comment to get worked up about though. Honestly if I were Dan, I'd be feeling the same way - why would someone at Disney but a porn star in that list that they then showed to kids? I think it was more a dig towards the person who made that list, which is valid.
@@purelysmetalnightcoreYeah, you can't publically make porn as your career and then be upset that squeaky clean Disney Channel doesn't want to associate with you lol.
@purelysmetalnightcore I agree. Dan Benson had to know when he became a porn star that he would never appear on a children's show again
32:30 i think some people said it would be the return of evil alex. I hope the dark figure is Gorag, just because he was a ridiculous villian who is the main villian of wizards and it would honestly make me laugh if they decide to bring him back.
I’m still so proud of that podcast for being so wholesome and genuine.
The cast had some very good times
My guess for why Justin still has his powers is because he was given “Full Wizardry” before meeting Giada. But this is flimsy as Alex lost her powers after becoming family wizard in the sequel movie, so this is really a teetering reason, ready to fall.
It's something i was a little worried about but you put it more clearly and it makes it very apparent that David Henrie has a lot of biases that's influencing this show and he's gotten this position because he's still the closest from the original with Selena Gomez.
In the original show the one episode i really didn't like was the episode where Justin screws up Alex's award acceptance speech at school because she pranked him only for her to be ostracised by the entire school and outside one little moment where he tries to distract people, justin really does not see how badly him messing up Alex's reputation was and how much it affected her, and justin also doesn't suffer any consequence from that, and learning later on it's one of the few episodes where David Henrie wrote it himself, it just feels like an unfortunate addage that David while he does have the passion to bring the show back it feels very much like his own rendition of the previous show and later on it can really suffer that if certain things or people don't happen because real life david henrie doesn't like it.
I myself have been enjoying the show and i think it's really fun despite there being a lot of annoyances. The kids are really great and it's nice to see the adults being a bit more involved this time around and i am intrigued on where this show is heading.
That Mono-Audio ad read for raycon is both genius and pure evil I hate/love it
Went to Dan's account, can confirm that it is bigger than you'd expect.
pretty sure hes sucked his own... trunk too.
It's always the lanky nerdy ones that are into aliens...
I am missing the context here and don't plan to finish this video so I will just be forever horrified
It's because this is basically a rebootquel, a reboot disguised as a sequel
While the new kids are similar to the old cast there are some differences. Alex used magic to get out of doing work and to do schemes. Billie uses magic for fun and never thinks before she does spells. Roman is more laid back than Justin. Max was dumb but Milo is more of a wild card who is go with the flow than stupid.
Justin had a HUGE ego, Roman is more laid back
@@growingupwithdisney Maybe you're right now taht I think about it.
Disney, we can't show this series to kids we can't afford to have😭
22:37 I WAS FOLDING LAUNDRY AND FELL TO THE FLOOR LAUGHING WHEN I HEARD THIS
LMFAOOO
Oh boy, here i go! Watching a full Raycon Earbuds ad, because the skit slaps. Guess i have two channels that i dont skip ad reads now
At least from the clips you've shown here, Selena's acting has gotten a lot better. Like, she's able to make these sorts of hard-hitting stilted disney lines work well.
No way I just finished ur Zack and Cody video and you ALREADY posted something new. Ur on a generational run rn I can’t lie
I feel like so many people hate the show for not being some grand plot focusing on the coolest most intense and deep parts of the original with a focus on adults and maturity etc. But its not that, and it was never going to be that. It's a return to form, and it's FUN. And yeah, theres flaws with it (especially dealing with continuity from the original). Also hot take but I didn't think the child actors were bad, I thought they did a pretty good job actually.
I only care about it so Keyan can make videos of it, Im not watching it.
It's so funny seeing childhood actors growing up in ways you don't expect because you associate them with child-friendly media
That reaction at 17:54 was amazing, I got genuinely happy for you 😭
If they want to bring Max back, but not bring Jake back, they could always find Maxine’s actress and make some comment about Max deciding to try something new somehow.
I dunno if that makes sense, but it sounds fancy,
Trans Billionaire Max. Perfect.
@@herowither12354 reference shakira uncle, wizard sex changes are apparently easy.
Since max is a rich billionaire now, Maxine could just be how he goes out in public to avoid unwanted attention from the media, especially when visiting his family.
Kinda like a reverse Shakira/ kelbo situation.
@@jlwiseman98 Nah, Max is trans.
Jake said he was returning though
Bearded Keyan is OP. The beard is so powerful that I sat through the entire ad without skipping. I’m under its powers. Help me!
Considering there was an undercurrent of monster discrimination in the OG show they could have had Juliet recast and made a show about Justin or Alex's half monster/half wizard children. That way they could have done something different with the premise, addressed wizard world problems and still maintained plotlines from the original.
Love the idea but I doubt Disney would allocate a budget for monsters every episode
And to think, at the same time that Selena Gomez is involved with an acclaimed comedy series with industry legends Martin Short and Steve Martin, she's also doing this show. Funny how these things occasionally work out.
god bless you Keyan and thank you for another bountiful meal
Jed Elinoff and Scott Thomas made their own original sitcom Best Friends Whenever before they rebooted That’s So Raven and Wizards
I love that show.
I've been defending those guys this whole time because Kyle Norty got me into Best Friends Whenever and now I think that show was underrated. But I feel like this show has the same issue as Raven's Home, mainly the fifth season, where they're struggling to make the entire plot make sense. For one example, breaking up Justin and Juliet like how they broke up Raven and Devon. At least with the latter, you could argue they still love each other and maybe they couldn't handle a long distance relationship with their jobs. IDK.
Revivals to Disney channel shows feel pretty rare, so It’s sort of interesting this one was able to happen
Its probably because Selena Gomez was into the idea and she has enough clout to make it happen. Plus there was seemingly enough fan outcry to make it worth it for them.
Ravens home and girl meets world are both fairly recent. This falls more in line with their modern trends tbh. Also Phineas and Ferb is coming back
Proud Family also had a revival
@@sonickhable well technically boy meets world wasn’t a Disney channel show and a spin-off would’ve honesty had a better fit on free-form/abc tbh
They only gave up on the Lizzie McGuire revival because the iCarly direction wasn’t something Disney felt comfortable with.
17:54 this happy squeal caught me so off-guard and I love it so much
26:02 I love how the camera changes angels but the background doesn't change, they didn't even bother to have the editor move the background slightly to make it look different from a different angle, there is two glowing dots on the mid-left side that just stay in place as the camera switches between the actors.
only Alex Russo would clone an entire person and send them through four years of college completely in secret
Imagine if instead of bringin back normal max they bring up that girl that played max for like a season
Edit: seeing the comments I have to say one thing "GUARDS! TRANS THEIR GENDER!" We getting Maxine
What if they bring both back?
I support them. Max(ine) is canonically trans now, that's perfect.
@@AeonKnigh432 you get it!!
YESSSS
Canon trans Max Russo is really what we need in 2024
I'm really glad to hear that the show is good so far!
I AGREE 100% on your point about Selena Gomez, David Henrie gearing this show toward himself, and having only people he likes coming back. Jennifer Stone makes the most sense to come back, and having Harper married to Justin, since we don't have Juliet/Bridgit. I know Harper got over her feelings in season 3..but they can retcon that just like everything else, or just explain Justin grew feelings for her and she supported him after being fired or something. I think David and Jennifer's poor relationship is why he has a new wife in this series. I don't see those two being paired up for this show, because they don't seem to like each other. I see why, they both seem controlling and stubborn, but unfortunately things are in David's favor due to his close relationship with Selena Gomez
@@growingupwithdisney I can’t be the only one here who doesn’t see any chemistry between Justin and Harper in the original series, especially since she clearly got over him. I always saw Justin with Juliet or a mortal based on how his parents story goes. Since history is supposed to repeat itself. Even if David and Jen were best friends I don’t think he’d write her in the show as his wife because nobody actually wants that to happen.
@ I don’t see chemistry either, but it’d be kinda funny to think about how that happened. Disney Channel parents don’t need chemistry, they just need to be fun characters with a funny dynamic. They could’ve wrote Justin and Harper that way. The thought didn’t occur to me though until my sister brought it up, I see why David or anyone in the show probably didn’t think of it
The person I personally REALLY wanted in this new series was Max/Jake T Austin. I feel like his dynamic with Justin would’ve been great to see. And seeing how he’s a different kind of authority figure over the kids, and having him be contrasted with Justin’s way of teaching/being. Since we don’t have Alex as a main character, Max seems like the best alternative to me, and they can build their sibling dynamic. Plus the show needs a third place, it could’ve been the Waverly Sub-station with Max as a main character too
dan bensons cool asf he worked at beyond the summit for awhile after wizards (they used to put on esports events)
6:17 the way I spat out my drink
idk if it's cause jerry is shaped like my dad but he literally warms my heart so much i just want to hug him
29:29 Also it reminds me of when Max slept out on the terrace in a giant pumpkin and was covered in giant pumpkin guts and seeds
Todd J. Greenwald gets the "Created by" credit because of creating the original show. They did the same thing on Raven's Home (created by the same duo as this show) giving Michael Poryes & Susan Sherman a "Created by" credit. Also Suite Life on Deck did the same thing. I think Cory in the House is the only sequel show Disney has done that just did a "Characters Created by" credit instead
In a Deadline article, it was revealed during their visit, that he was in attendance and gave his approval:
"Greenwald gave just about the best stamp of approval he could’ve when, as the scene got going, he broke out into a grin, chuckling as the jokes flew around. That, everyone agrees, was a moment of great satisfaction."
One of the developers of the show, Scott Thomas also said this in response to that "We’re sort of step parents, meeting the dad for the first time and going, ‘Hey, we are raising your kids. I hope we’re doing a good job,. But he couldn’t have been nicer. He couldn’t have been more gracious. We really appreciate that…It was very rewarding when we got through the cold open and he was laughing.”
Pair of Kings was another one of my favs I can’t wait for your video on that going to resub to the Patreon next week
10:00 Not gonna lie, you're rocking the beard.
Also, seeing you geek out over them FINALLY giving the sets the love they deserved got me smiling.
I love how so far it's just as much of a fever dream as the original
32:22 "Yapping" was a slang way before this day-of-age, it was literally used in Billy and Mandy
What else could it be slang for? I’ve been hearing it for years
Yapping as in "quit yapping", "the friends were happily yapping" "stop yer' yapping" etc. etc. has been used for ages, usually negative/neutral. And I considered it as slightly antiquated.
However I've noticed it become more popular and used as a positive on tiktok/RUclips. Instead of "lemme chat to you guys" it's become "lemme yap to you guys" and comments like "I could listen to you yap all day" or "post more I need more of you yapping about x". To me it's felt like a fun resurgence of the slang 😊
@@Rosebom oh
this was such a delightful video to watch lol the way you're so clearly enthusiastic about it got ME excited about the same things as you even though i'm nowhere near as much of a hardcore fan
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!
Is still crazy how Bridgit Mendler went from an actress to a CEO of a space company she co-founded.
I think the fact that the people who refuse to publicly get involved in drama with past cast members are in charge of the new show is a good sign lol
So happy to see you finally cover this! I binged the first ten episodes a few weeks ago and it felt so fun to watch. Hope we don't have to wait too long for the rest of Season 1 to come out!
25:20 He just looks so happy to be back, bless this man
THANK YOU KEYAN !!!!! I LOVE everything you make so bad you're incredibly talented and funny and I show all my friends your videos
The only thing I remember from Pair of Kings is there was an entire episode built around a little kid, treating him like the most special character ever. I don’t know if he won a contest or was part of a make a wish foundation, but you could tell it wasn’t a regular episode.
Wait, wasn’t the kid played by Leo from Lab Rats? And wasn’t the whole point of the episode that he was an annoying little shit?
The beef was crazy💀
my issue with the show is that it seems too aged down? like i didn’t necessarily expect it to go the icarly route and stay with it’s initial audience, but i did think they’d shoot for the same audience as the original show did, preteens and teens. but the revival seems like its for older kids and preteens. Like how Justin and Alex were in high-school, meanwhile Billie and Roman go to middle school. And even some of the plots, while reminiscent of the old wizards, feel more childish than before.
I initially thought it made a bit of sense, since Max didn’t have powers at the start of the show either/just got them ? so in theory, it would be like a puberty type thing. Meaning they could make Billie older/an early bloomer, and explain why Justin isn’t teaching the kids, because they don’t have powers yet.
They could even frame it as “we dont know if we will have powers.”
It would also help further explain Justin’s powers, bc I rationalized it as -winning the wizard competition meant you carried the “wizard gene.” Jerry married a mortal, and lost his powers, but bc he was the wizard competition winner, he carried the gene to his children. (I believe that is how the show explicitly explained why they have magic and Jerry doesnt)
So following that logic, Alex kept the wizard gene. Justin’s powers came from a “gift” from Crums, therefore he didnt lose it by falling in love with a mortal (something we can suspend disbelief for as being genetically related, like your magic rejecting the commitment of marriage to a mortal, and getting wiped out by it. But still being a carrier of it, even if you no longer have the “symptoms” yourself.)
This is a good set up for both giving the kids magic down the line, and not doing that. Because Justin and by extension the audience wouldn’t know if the gifted powers Justin has could be passed down, since they aren’t genetically his.
But the “skip a generation” doesn’t seem promising, and I think the show structure would work better with slightly older characters.
And its not even a casting issue, Selena was about 14/15 when filming the first season, so I don’t think they need to look older necessarily.
Though it really feels like no one is catering to the pre-teen to teen audience. A show that kids 10-15 could watch while both relating to it, and viewing the “older” characters as role models. Shows for those transition from preteen to pre adult. Everything (especially the reboots) seem to cater really hard either to the child to preteen demographic, or the 16+ demographic, with no space for the in between.
which is crazy when disney and nick used to have almost a dozen at a time
I felt this too. Is there just not a market for teenager-oriented television anymore? I could buy that. If that is the case I imagine most of them are either graduating to more adult-oriented shows or just injecting video essays directly into their eyesockets. The setting and cast of the revival feels so limited compared to the original.
Thank You for this Keyan.
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The save me trump reference at 10:08 actually made me lose it that's one of my favorite memes 😭
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So far it’s been better then the last season of the og show. It also feels like there’s some actual high stakes. I remember so many times in the old show they act like they were in such a tight bind when they really weren’t.
I watched this as a kid and loved it I’m 26 now and still love it, I can’t wait to watch this renewal, Selena is such a great actor. I hope her and mason are still together
Sadly, with the current climate, where most shows get like 10 episodes and get cancelled after first or second season, shows cannot really afford to keep this kind of plots for multiple episodes, and in effect, everything is rushed and exmplain, to not leave lose ends in case show would get cancelled after one season
This seasons got 21 episodes!! And already broke a record for most watched kids show on Disney Plus so hopefully it’ll go strong
Calling it now, if this show goes on Roman and Milo have their "latent wizard abilities" unlock or some other macguffin to give them powers too by like season 3. Or even 2 with how fast paced the show seems already.
The kids knowing the zeke lore taking me out