I can just imagine how that meeting went. "Hohoho! Well, chaps, here's a spiffing wheeze! Let's name our company the East India Company, to stick it to those Dutch rotters, then we'll put 'Honourable' in front of it so all the fools will think we're nice people, and all the chaps and chappesses that can manage the complex process of thought will get bally well steamed, wot wot!"
honorable is in the name because by those times imperialism was a good thing and a company encouraging imperialism was likely gonna get pretty popular during those days.
Jesse Pinkman: So Britain why did you get into the drug business? UK: After my fight with America I realized I couldn't live forever so I decided to make some extra money to keep Scotland and Wales to be well off when I'm gone...
Perhaps, but you can't deny they brought in money and resources that helped kick-start the industrial revolution, and it was territory they took in India that became the most valuable provinces of the Empire. Even the opium wars gave a much needed boost to the economy. I'm not saying they weren't crappy but most of the most powerful nations owe their position to some form of crappiness.
I... Don't know if it's a great example of a company damaging the nation it's FROM, but they caused a hell of a lot of damage to a lot of other countries.
the east India company was more a sovereign state acting as a protectorate of the British monarchy than a private company chartered out of britain. So ya private corporations make more successful governments than actual governments. LIBERTARIAN INTERPRETATION FOR THE WIN!!!
This is actually great, being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese. The way that extra credits explains both sides is deeply fascinating and I'm genuinely interested to learn more.
I'm Chinese, not necessarily from China, it's a common mistake. I meant it in the sense where grandparents/ parents tell you of your ancestral background. By the way, where did you hear that from? While it is true that China's government is very sensitive about it's media, it's open borders policy has led it to be the world's second largest economy. And their standards of regulation is dropping, movies such as V for vendetta for one was shown on public television and Disneyland was just opened in Shanghai.
+LoZ Collector With all due respect. "Communist" (if you go there capitalistic ideals are much more prevelant) China isn't what you watch in Cold War cartoons
"being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese" I mean... this is still true.
As a Chinese, i can tell you that tea is just that addicting. I can't even imagine anyone wanting to drink beer or wine but tea, oh man i could drink 10-20 cups without stopping. This addiction goes both ways.
@Long schlong Oof, my parents are Indian so I have a lot of experience on farms, I am also hiding here because of a certain dislike in my anti-social house.
Awesome that you posted this! I just began reading about reading about China's Century of Humiliation a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for making it easier.
I love these videos because they work as either a radio show, in the background of Warframe or some other high intensity, low planning game, or as a wonderful presentation.
Given the context, I guess the meaning was more "even the East India Company, which contribution to the national treasure was honorable, etc...". Because morally speaking, yeah, not a lot of honor to be found there.
Two Empires, both alike in dignity, In fair Ocean, where we lay our scene, From ancient trade rules break to new mutiny, Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean. From forth the fatal loins of these two foes A pair of star-cross'd traders take their life; Whose misadventured piteous overthrows....
He's paraphrasing Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet for those wondering. "Two households, both alike in dignity in fair Verona, where we lay our scene, from ancient grudge break to new mutiny-uncivil blood makes civil hands unclean From forth the fatal loins of these two foes, a pair of star-crossed lovers take their life-whose misadventured, piteous overthrow doth with their death bury their parents’strife. The fearful passage of their death-marked love in the continuance of their parents’ rage - that nought but children’s end could remove- is now the two hours’ traffic of our stage. The which, if you with patient ears attend, what they shall miss, our toil will strive tomend….”
If tea came from Europe, that'd be a great idea. Though if tea did come from Europe, it would have been Britain instead of Napoleonic France that tried to conquer most of Europe. While China would have been left to do its own thing. So the world would look rather different.
***** Oh wow, not having dictatorial control of vassal states and instead having to share power with other nations as equals, how on earth will you cope? And you call the other members of the EU whiners...
How is it any different. The Americans are currently fighting a war for control of the Opium market. And doing a pretty good job at it, every year opium production hits a new record high. And the U.S. has a near monopoly on transportation out of Asia.
I doubt thats much of an incentive to the americans. Opiums easy to grow. Hell the old lady down the road from me used to have opium poppies in her garden until one of the local junkies worked it out and raided her garden. Tasmania in australia has the capacity to spin up opium production enough to cover the worlds needs, if needed, and its not the only legitimate opium producer either. If the US is taking control of opium in afghanistan, its primarily to stop farmers selling it to the taliban who use it to fund their wars in pashtun regions of afghanistan and pakistan. The profits would not justify the military expenses. Now oil and rare metals on the other hand. That shits big money.
Ok, I love extra history because is opened me up to learning. After years of watching this channel and many others I’ve been able to run the field in class debates using my historical knowledge to show why other people’s ideas might be good or absolutely suck. It’s crazy to me that you can learn all this stuff for free. I hope this channel stays alive for a long long time.
It sure is the name, but they also shortened the name of the Emperor of China to "Emperor" instead of saying his full name with titles. But honestly I think Poes law applies here, I'm pretty sure that they thought that the 'honorable' East Indian Company was so obviously not honorable that people would get they just used the full name in a sarcastic way... =)
they forgot to say that macartney visit the qianlong emperor on the emperors birthday which fueled the confusion, and that the Portuguese were already exporting opium into China
Pretty much, it's crazy that such a specific thing spread, but I guess it was a flavored drink that wasn't alcohol or juice. Juices didn't hold for super long and they were kinda expensive, alcohols disadvantages are self-explanatory. This is actually around the time that all of the social institutions surrounding tea started to establish themselves, tea time, being able to offer tea to guests. It's very strange, in hindsight.
I am sure they had all sorts of herbal "tea," but it's just not the same. That's what we Americans did during the revolutionary war when we were unable to drink tea.
Tea has antiseptic properties. It contributed a huge amount to the Industrial Revolution by enabling masses of people to move into the cities to work, by reducing water-borne diseases.
@@crook7493Not really. If you are caught using it, the government will send you rehabs (prison) until you are clean. If you are caught selling it, no matter how much you have, you will be sentenced for years, but death penalty is not a common ending
Sure thing, guv'nah. I'd love a cuppa. Would you like a couple of delicious crumpets or some of the fineness Batterberg cake in the whole of Hampshire?
Not just tanks. Every grunt usually buys a jetboil/gas cooker to boil water for any form of brew, be it tea or otherwise. It's essential in every commonwealth army, where it is a matter of morale! (They said that about shaving in the field, but fuck that, that's a waste of perfectly potable water). Especially in defensive exercises/dug in positions where we'll often dig a brew shelf in our pits to hide the light generated by gas cookers. Allegedly, in Malaya, Commonwealth officers would mandate an hour long tea break in a platoon harbour multiple times per day for "morale"... Meanwhile dipshit 1 pip in typical newbie officer fashion has gotten the platoon lost again and is trying to do some navigation checks in that hour. Good way of hiding mistakes and improving morale at the same time, in addition to being in a strong defensive position in the jungle where if someone interrupts your tea break with a contact, you're going to have a whole pile of angry Brits, Aussies and Kiwis ready to rip shit and bust because you ruined chill time. Also, all the packs would be co-located in a common location easily, so after a contact, you could load up and fuck off from the place you've figured out was your actual grid.
I remembered this lesson from one of my history of China classes back in university. What I remembered was that the British thought, "Okay, the Chinese got stuff that we really want but there's nothing that we have that they want...hey, wait! Let's get them addicted to drugs! That will totally solve our trading problem!" Great video, you guys! Love your lessons!
@@violetta698 Nope, 'The Honourable East India Company' was one of their official names. It's quite a tradition to attach ridiculous adjectives to titles in the British history / establishment. All the City of London guilds are called 'The Worshipful Company of Weavers' or whatever, and still today members of parliament still have to refer to one another as 'The Honourable Gentleman / Lady' rather than using their actual names. It's so pompous.
Its pretty embarrassing how helpless China was during this compared to how overconfident they were going into it. At the start of the Opium wars they saw themselves as the undisputed strongest nation on Earth, but had no idea how much stronger of a threat the British Empire was.
It’s one reason they are so armed today. The Chinese during the 1950s onwards are paranoid that this would repeat again and have the whole country humiliated, so the armed forces and economy are ramped up to what we see today.
The Qing had a chance. The governor of Canton saw war was coming and fortified the city, which was why the British skipped the port. Messages were sent to other port cities warning of the incoming British, but the local governors ignored it basically saying 'not my problem'. When the British started attacking and it was obvious the Qing forces were outmatched, the Emperor was indecisive and tried to draw the war out longer which only caused more indemities from the British.
I think the same is happening to the US now. America views itself as the undisputed champion of the world, but right now it doesn't seem like they're winning against China right now.
Nice to see a First Opium War Series. I included it as part of my history capstone paper, and its rather fascinating how much intricate interaction occurred to bring it about. Perhaps the most interesting part of it for me was the entire Pearl River Delta black market system which the British (and later American) traders broke into through shallow draft steam ships.
I am so glad you are doing this part of history! I found it utterly fascinating when I learned about it. Its a major part of what would lead to the fall of the Chinese dynasty and send it on the path that its on today. Not many in the West (including British citizens) know about this part of their colonial history, so thank you.
Please do a video on Queen Min/Empress Myeongseong of Korea? The way she tried to make changes but continually struggled against people of power around her is just one of many things that makes her life so interesting (and frustrating.)
Minor might be stretching it a bit, but if you consider how circuitous the route to China was (not to mention it involves moving through two continents already, three if you count the fact that England is pretty much at the north end of Europe and therefore they would have to go past most of seabound Europe as well), and then compare that to the comparatively straight line crossing the Atlantic involved, it actually is relatively minor distance wise.
"Wouldn't it be nice if we couldn't blown across the Atlantic when we sailed to China?" "How do you suggest we do that?" "Well...you know how windmills worked? Maybe if ships had propellers that were powered by internal windmills." "Where would you get the wind?" "Well, if there was a giant kettle belowdecks, the steam from it could turn the windmill." "Have you been adding whiskey to your tea again?" "...Maybe."
@杨健 invaded Tibet, though. Even your average person knows there's a difference in being ethnic Tibetans or Chin imported Tibetans. 55 recognised ethnicities within China. So a lot of people within China aren't Chinese.
@@teviottilehurst : Qing dynasty. You bringed up PRC which was set in different time. Before, China didn't invade any country but was bullied by 5 countries.
Luís Filipe Andrade - China is the result of foreign invasion. Mongols, Manchus, & yes, Tibetans were all once INVADERS to China. They invaded, they occupied, they fell out of power, they stayed, and now, they become part of China. They helped China's expansion. China, strictly speaking, the Han Chinese, are pretty docile a group of ppl. Pretty much all the invasions you thought about were done in non-Han Chinese dominance periods. China's land mass was at the peak during the Qing Dynasty, which was ruled by the Manchus & where native Han Chinese were regarded as 2nd class citizens. & it's the same treatment during the Mongol's rulings. Don't use a general term to tarnish all Chinese, esp if you wanna talk about history. The time the Great Wall of China starts construction is the time China finishes expansion. China doesn't want or need anything else, no Tibet, no Mongol, no other tribal regions, much less overseas. It's those tribes lusting & lurking over China's wealth that they decided to invade China, just like the English & the French, you get that? And they get what they deserve: become part of China. Honestly, just how twisted and evil are you to say China invaded those areas?? Are you French? Maybe that explains why you want to drag China down to your level: to make yourself feel less guilty about what you did to China. You French were worse than the Brits, & less successful worldwide... well, maybe Spain & Portugal were doing worse than France, but whatever. China never sent any officials overseas to dictate other countries, never forced their way in with guns & cannons, never forced other nations to convert into her religion, learn her language, & all these make a whole world's difference. Now, don't be evil & don't be a moron.
+Extra Credits I'm really surprised you guys are painting the British so favorably. The handling of the opium war by the british was some pretty villainous stuff. There are few times in history where the bad guys can be so easily spotted, but this is one of those times. Love your stuff and keep at it!!
China in this case is a cautionary tale of being too conservative and too isolationist. As FDR once said about isolationism: "Obviously a defense policy built on that is merely to invite future attack."
i think that initially, china had the right to restrict trade, the british couldve gone without the tea, or even traded for the seeds and knowhow to farm it, stopped trading with china, and just started mass-farming tea in india or something, to be honest, i think the brits are at fault in this one because being so aggressive to a nation that just wants to be left alone is pretty ridiculous.
@@yibojing3345 capitalism hasn't unfairly, distributed the wealth. Ever since the fall of the USSR, the poverty went from 1/4 people to 1/20. Capitalism helps grow a middle and upper class, which is way better than just lower, and upper class. Capitalism creates competition which causes innovations.
@@RavenFlight413 yes they had a right to do so, and I respect that I really do. but the reason they did so because they wanted to hold on to power. If they opened up they could've industrialized and traded. and not have had a hundred years of embarrassment. They could've been able to not be a back water for 200 years. They could've been better, but the elite was afraid to lose power.
TNT Summers the war wasn’t about “free trade”, that’s a phrase shoved down your throat and misleading. THEY WERE STILL SELLING SILK TEA AND OTHER PRODUCTS. they just made it illegal to sell opium (heroin). And British invaded and enslaved a nation to make profit off killing them Don’t make it heroic just cuz there British and this video clip should t be your only source of info
Napoleon III in 1860: "I'd be interested if I wasn't so worried about another revolution happening". In the end, he did one though (much to the disgust of the trade unionists, who sought blanket protectionism for ALL French industry).
I reallyyyyy wish you guys would put your playlist in the description boxes 🤦🏻♀️ LOL. I’m a social studies teacher and I like to give kids access to your videos on some of the topics we cover incase they want to take a deeper dive into the material. Sometimes I use them to make Ed puzzles for review as well! You guys are awesome and thank you!!
Throwing something out there that I really hope you guys read - when the stories of interactions between European empires and Asian countries get told, they are very, very often told solely from the European perspective, and the Asian perspective is erased or seen as an unimportant subnarrative. This contributes to Orientalist issues, API erasure, and other forms of anti-Asian racism. Simply put, when our stories are not told, we are rendered invisible and it's harder to see us as people, see our cultures as human, or see our lives as important. The Opium War was incredibly important to my people's history, and the Chinese perspective is just as important as the British one. If you're going to touch on this important piece of history, please, please, please make a point of telling both sides.
@@combativeThinker Why dont i past judgement on and ENTIRE dynasty in hindsight sitting on my couch justifying the colonization of a civilizational state in order to feed your tea addiction. Grow you own damn tea. You have the same mindset as the ppl back then.
@@Reformed_Zuko Why would I care about the British doing gunboat diplomacy on the Chinese when if the shoe was on the other foot, they would of done the same? Lol.
@@jerm70 If you look at history🌍 for 3/4 of the last 3000 years, China was at the peak of civilization. Yet China didnt go around the world just for material gains. Chinese civ see all races as people, and selling drugs to kids is wrong no matter what background youre from
Nerds Forever I wouldn't call it a drug war, or at least, not on our side. From the Chinese side, it was certainly a drug war, but if Pablo Escobar had the backing of a superpower.
This conflict is an excellent case study for Protectionism vs Free Trade and how the pendulum should in my view at least never swing to far in either direction or conflict will eventually become inevitable
I once saw a British-produced documentary on the Opium Wars that went something like "Ah, we wanted to sell other European goods to China, but noooo, they DEMANDED(!) we give them Opium and nothing else, and went to war to get it!" Sorta freaked me out. You Brits in the comments don't honestly think you had the moral high ground, right?
Unfortunately, as with any nation there are people here in the UK who refuse to accept that the British Empire was anything more than a beacon of civilisation and freedom from barbarism (Which to an extent it was, but by being pretty shitty itself at times) and even view talking about negative aspects of the Empire as the height of unpatriotic behaviour.
The Macartney mission was in retrospect a missed opportunity for China. Had the Qing Emperor and the ruling establishment been able to negotiate a trade agreement on more or less equal footing with the British and perhaps other Europeans. Maybe the Opium Wars could've have been avoided, and more importantly, China could've eased its isolationism and integrated into the modern world under more favorable circumstances. Instead, the closed mindedness of the ruling elite caused China to fall ever behind from Europe and it suffered more than a century of humiliation. Of course, the internal politics in China was ever so complicated and for it to adopt and learn from the West was going to be major challenge, possibly leading to end of Manchu rule, something that the Qing elite was not going to tolerate. In dealing with China's relations with the West in 19th century, the Qing rulers were at many times more afraid of losing power and control at home than conceding trade agreement or territories to Europeans. In their minds, the threat of Han majority rising up and regaining power was always more threatening than any treaty the West would impose. Had the ruling dynasty been Han instead of Manchu, I think China could have dealt with contact with West better. Of course, in this scenario China would most likely lose control over Tibet, Sinkiang, parts of Inner Mongolia and Manchuria coming into the modern era.
Arthur Yu Yes, I agree, but Lord Macartney never brought anything useful to the Chinese like Industrialized machines and you can't really blame the imperial court here, since it looked a tribute mission instead of a deal.
It would have made a big difference if Macartney just brought back some Chinese dignitaries to Britain so they could see it for themselves. Going straight to demanding territorial concessions was just bad deal making
Contrast this with the American mission to Japan in 1851 under Commodore Mathew Perry. Japan accepted the American demands (which were far more humiliating than the British terms with the Chinese), rapidly modernized and became a mighty Imperial Power in less than half a century.
@@chandruae well, perry showed up with gunboats in tow, whereas the british showed up with gifts and nothing else. pretty sure gunboats are more convincing
According to the statistics shown in the clip, the annual net worth of the tea trade in Britain was around 25 billion pounds in today's money. Gives you a little perspective.
this all sounds silly now, but image today if all of the worlds coffee bean production was in one country, and that country put the same restrictions on trade as the Chinese did here, there would be armies on their beaches before you could even make a cup of coffee
I had this exact same conversation when the South Seas company episodes were being released, with some fool who thought it was offensive to call them that. It's literally their name.
Where did this speaker go? Genuinely he told everything so much better, with a very sophisticated look, and didnt try to make clearly obvious humor twice per video...
From a history nerd to a fellow history nerd, I know you have already done one on China but can you please do a video on their ancient history? Specifically during the warring States era as described in the Chinese classic "romance of the three kingdoms"? It's their version of Shakespeare, basically a game of thrones with eunuchs killing kings and sons slaying fathers, some badass warrior called Lu Bu and a hero called Lin Biao and his sidekick Guan Yu who as the God of war is still revered by many in China to this day even though he was a real historical figure. The book is also all based upon one of the first ever unifications of the modern Chinese state. It's absolutely fascinating although I've been reading on it for a few months I still cannot wrap my head around it and think one of your videos would be perfect to explain it in a fun way.
'Honourable' East India Company... Honourable - my foot... Edit : I thought it was impossible for me to hate the British Empire more after reading about the Freedom struggle of India, this video disproved it...
Honestly I love the fact that the book is right-side bound. The level of accuracy to the little details is why I love this channel.
Lol
Did he put any cite?
Well, when they showed what Britain lost in North America, they included Canada, so not super accurate
I almost admire that the East India Company had the nerve to put "Honourable" in their name.
Seriously, they were cartoonishly evil.
In 1599 they were.
I can just imagine how that meeting went.
"Hohoho! Well, chaps, here's a spiffing wheeze! Let's name our company the East India Company, to stick it to those Dutch rotters, then we'll put 'Honourable' in front of it so all the fools will think we're nice people, and all the chaps and chappesses that can manage the complex process of thought will get bally well steamed, wot wot!"
honorable is in the name because by those times imperialism was a good thing and a company encouraging imperialism was likely gonna get pretty popular during those days.
Eh?
I’m British and this sounds 100% like something we would do for tea
you already did, twice
@Jacques Le Goudie the most successful pirates then huh
Just wait until you’d hear about the history of nutmeg
sgtrpcommand Too funny. Thanks.
@@scottydu81 expand on the history of nutmeg
I didn't have enough money to buy tea, so I started selling drugs to chinese kids... -_British Empire 2016_
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Andro A hahahaha
British empire 1840
Andro A this was a year ago but you made my day
I love my Tea!
"When goods can't cross borders, armies will."
And in this case goods will come with them
@@sheldon-cooper
Yeah but you cant not force a country to sell you tea.
When drugs can't cross borders narco state armies will cross
* America entered the chat *
Mom: What did your learn today?
Me:An English stereotype started a war!
Igstar 1 year later and ur still correct
@@ian7019 More like 200 years later.
@@bigj1905 more like 400 years
Space colonisation
Yeah they do that a lot.
Breaking British.
Jesse Pinkman: So Britain why did you get into the drug business?
UK: After my fight with America I realized I couldn't live forever so I decided to make some extra money to keep Scotland and Wales to be well off when I'm gone...
@Aqil Ahmad U.K: So I started a war with China over tea
All Hail the King of Britain
@@Brandonhayhew All hail the working man
Breaking Brits
East India Trading Company is a prime example of why large corporations corrupt governments and do more damage to a nation in their own self interest.
Perhaps, but you can't deny they brought in money and resources that helped kick-start the industrial revolution, and it was territory they took in India that became the most valuable provinces of the Empire. Even the opium wars gave a much needed boost to the economy.
I'm not saying they weren't crappy but most of the most powerful nations owe their position to some form of crappiness.
If anything it's more of an example of the failure of Government intervention into businesses but sure.
At the expense of every other culture they interacted with, but yes, it was a definite boon for the British Empire.
I... Don't know if it's a great example of a company damaging the nation it's FROM, but they caused a hell of a lot of damage to a lot of other countries.
the east India company was more a sovereign state acting as a protectorate of the British monarchy than a private company chartered out of britain. So ya private corporations make more successful governments than actual governments.
LIBERTARIAN INTERPRETATION FOR THE WIN!!!
18th century: OMG THIS WAS MADE IN CHINA HOW MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!
Now days: why is everything made in China??
XD relatable Im from HK and we rely on China for the goods
@@Bxll_Bxll I HK goods also called made in China?
Two years later and it's now. China is unfair because of the trade deficit we created by willingly importing thier goods.
@@Bxll_Bxll Hong Kong is part of China
@@Lucky-qd6nh depends on who you ask but the other countries call them China but we are somewhat independent
This is actually great, being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese. The way that extra credits explains both sides is deeply fascinating and I'm genuinely interested to learn more.
I'm Chinese, not necessarily from China, it's a common mistake. I meant it in the sense where grandparents/ parents tell you of your ancestral background. By the way, where did you hear that from? While it is true that China's government is very sensitive about it's media, it's open borders policy has led it to be the world's second largest economy. And their standards of regulation is dropping, movies such as V for vendetta for one was shown on public television and Disneyland was just opened in Shanghai.
+LoZ Collector With all due respect. "Communist" (if you go there capitalistic ideals are much more prevelant) China isn't what you watch in Cold War cartoons
"being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese"
I mean... this is still true.
Yeah, your ancestors weren't as innocent as you thought.
I’m Irish myself, but I’ve always been fascinated by China. These videos really opened my eyes on this concealed country
As a Chinese, i can tell you that tea is just that addicting. I can't even imagine anyone wanting to drink beer or wine but tea, oh man i could drink 10-20 cups without stopping. This addiction goes both ways.
Tea is actually mildly euphoric.
Us Taiwanese love tea aswell
Started drinking tea ☕️ in college. Five years later, and I CAN’T STOP!
@JadeWarrior You've incurred the wrath of Britain, prepare to be robbed of your land and exiled.
@Long schlong Oof, my parents are Indian so I have a lot of experience on farms, I am also hiding here because of a certain dislike in my anti-social house.
“The sun never sets on the British Empire, because God doesn’t trust the British in the dark.”
OMG. This is priceless 😂😂
Sashi tharoor
That's awesome
This is science
Yes
And then the British learned just how profitable drug dealing could be...
Brits did Breaking Bad 200 years before it's cool.
The Brits began selling drugs to fund their tea addiction.
"Say my name."
"You're King George the Third"
"You're goddamn right I am."
+nemesismkiii
What do you think had been going on with tea all this time? Addiction sells.
Wait, wouldn't George say: "You're goddamn left I am."
:P
The stage gets set for the first Opium War, as trade between China and Britain grows tense.
Cant wait second part :^D
me to!
Awesome that you posted this! I just began reading about reading about China's Century of Humiliation a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for making it easier.
It say you comment 21 hours ago.
small change I would make to the introduction the British did not lose the hole content only the usa cannada was still very much British ruled
For someone who is half Chinese and half English this was a very interesting war.
I bet I can’t help but wonder about similar cases like America Mexican with all that baggage
Internal conflict. :)
imagine if china accepted the knick knacks from england, they avoid awful war, got tons of english science stuff
@@angelabby2379 yup but unfortunately China had gotten used to being king of the world and in the end such complacency would cost them dearly
@Führer des Benutzers crawling in my *C R A W L* the edge
Never, EVER get between the British and their tea!
Thanks for the tip, Mr. Bean.
+Julius Caesar Your salads and codes are great.
Your calendar sucked, though, so we got rid of it. Nothing personal.
Franz Luggin You try making an closer accurate calender when all you have in the world for astrology is looking at the sandwich your own eyes.
Hey, I don't blame you. You tried.
It's okay.
Really.
I love these videos because they work as either a radio show, in the background of Warframe or some other high intensity, low planning game, or as a wonderful presentation.
“Honorable east India company” was everything BUT honorable!
Given the context, I guess the meaning was more "even the East India Company, which contribution to the national treasure was honorable, etc...". Because morally speaking, yeah, not a lot of honor to be found there.
Two Empires, both alike in dignity,
In fair Ocean, where we lay our scene,
From ancient trade rules break to new mutiny,
Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
A pair of star-cross'd traders take their life;
Whose misadventured piteous overthrows....
Bravo! Encore!
"Fatal loins"
*immature giggle*
He's paraphrasing Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet for those wondering.
"Two households, both alike in dignity in fair Verona, where we lay our scene, from ancient
grudge break to new mutiny-uncivil blood makes civil hands unclean
From forth the fatal loins of these two foes, a pair of star-crossed lovers
take their life-whose misadventured, piteous overthrow doth with their death bury their parents’strife.
The fearful passage of their death-marked love in the continuance of their parents’ rage
- that nought but children’s end could remove-
is now the two hours’ traffic of our stage.
The which, if you with patient ears attend, what they shall miss, our toil will strive tomend….”
*parody
Wolfhaven *parodying ... by paraphrasing.
Now we know how to keep the UK in the EU. Block their tea trade if they withdraw
When you see the rest of this you'll realise why trying to block our tea trade is a really bad idea.
If tea came from Europe, that'd be a great idea.
Though if tea did come from Europe, it would have been Britain instead of Napoleonic France that tried to conquer most of Europe. While China would have been left to do its own thing. So the world would look rather different.
So they'll suffer from... withdrawl symptoms? >_>
Geddit?
... I'll get my coat.
***** Oh wow, not having dictatorial control of vassal states and instead having to share power with other nations as equals, how on earth will you cope? And you call the other members of the EU whiners...
good idea...
So Britain basically had a...
Drinking problem?
No
*Perhap*
*Well yes but actually no*
We just really really really really really really really like tea like a lot *ALL THE TEA*
So yeah
@@lisatapp5785 You Brits need to calm down taking all of the tea of the world🍵
The War on Drugs? More like The War For Drugs!
What a different time we live in...
How is it any different. The Americans are currently fighting a war for control of the Opium market. And doing a pretty good job at it, every year opium production hits a new record high. And the U.S. has a near monopoly on transportation out of Asia.
+GhostInTheShell29
It's different now because we hide our imperialism a little better.
I doubt thats much of an incentive to the americans. Opiums easy to grow. Hell the old lady down the road from me used to have opium poppies in her garden until one of the local junkies worked it out and raided her garden. Tasmania in australia has the capacity to spin up opium production enough to cover the worlds needs, if needed, and its not the only legitimate opium producer either. If the US is taking control of opium in afghanistan, its primarily to stop farmers selling it to the taliban who use it to fund their wars in pashtun regions of afghanistan and pakistan. The profits would not justify the military expenses. Now oil and rare metals on the other hand. That shits big money.
not that good like 90% of the dictatorships on south america were OBVIOUSLY incentivied by the US
yeah, well, we the people ain't gittin' none of it....
We may cross oceans and divide continents, but so help us God, we are going to get our tea, and make a giant stack of cash on the way.
*sips tea*
*spits tea in everyones face*
can't you just drink Camomile tea???
+Gilgamesch von Uruk like some kind of pauper!?!
Ander Malaby
Nooo, I just think it tastes better
Ok, I love extra history because is opened me up to learning. After years of watching this channel and many others I’ve been able to run the field in class debates using my historical knowledge to show why other people’s ideas might be good or absolutely suck. It’s crazy to me that you can learn all this stuff for free. I hope this channel stays alive for a long long time.
"We put drugs in our tea to add flavour."
-from a legit British person
Ask Germans How they got to Paris that fast in ww2.
3:35 'Honorable East India Company.' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! That's a good one Dan!
I must agree the company was one of the worst companies to exist.
Honourable is part of the name, not a descriptor
It's the freaking NAME!
It sure is the name, but they also shortened the name of the Emperor of China to "Emperor" instead of saying his full name with titles.
But honestly I think Poes law applies here, I'm pretty sure that they thought that the 'honorable' East Indian Company was so obviously not honorable that people would get they just used the full name in a sarcastic way... =)
I am sure the script was written by James. This is usually how he expresses his twisted and lovable sense of humor.
So, the cause in a nutshell:
"We don't think we should be bound by the laws of the country we're working in!"
Smitty Werben Jaeger man Jensen yes
So sounds like a former colony right?
Yeah basically, they just wanted to force China open
they forgot to say that macartney visit the qianlong emperor on the emperors birthday which fueled the confusion, and that the Portuguese were already exporting opium into China
So the British Empire had a crippling addiction to tea?
Pretty much, it's crazy that such a specific thing spread, but I guess it was a flavored drink that wasn't alcohol or juice. Juices didn't hold for super long and they were kinda expensive, alcohols disadvantages are self-explanatory. This is actually around the time that all of the social institutions surrounding tea started to establish themselves, tea time, being able to offer tea to guests. It's very strange, in hindsight.
Which it retains to this day...
YOU HAVE AN ADDICTION TO TEA
-2 STRENGTH
-1 CHARISMA
-3 LUCK
-2 PERCEPTION
USE ADDICTOL TO CURE YOUR ADDICTION
I am sure they had all sorts of herbal "tea," but it's just not the same. That's what we Americans did during the revolutionary war when we were unable to drink tea.
Tea has antiseptic properties. It contributed a huge amount to the Industrial Revolution by enabling masses of people to move into the cities to work, by reducing water-borne diseases.
“Britain threw a hisyyfit and made them open five cities and give them an island” Bill Wurtz
Got it, That's why china bans drugs so deadly.
...
truth.
and why they hates the west and why HKers are confused
this war is probably why China gives the death penalty to people found with weed. A bit extra innit
@@crook7493Not really. If you are caught using it, the government will send you rehabs (prison) until you are clean. If you are caught selling it, no matter how much you have, you will be sentenced for years, but death penalty is not a common ending
The entire British empire was built on cups of tea.
And if you think us Brits are going to war without one, mate, you're much mistaken.
Sure thing, guv'nah. I'd love a cuppa.
Would you like a couple of delicious crumpets or some of the fineness Batterberg cake in the whole of Hampshire?
Considering your tanks are all equipped with boiling vessels, that's hardly surprising. Not that I'm complaining or anything. It's a genius idea.
Not just tanks. Every grunt usually buys a jetboil/gas cooker to boil water for any form of brew, be it tea or otherwise. It's essential in every commonwealth army, where it is a matter of morale! (They said that about shaving in the field, but fuck that, that's a waste of perfectly potable water). Especially in defensive exercises/dug in positions where we'll often dig a brew shelf in our pits to hide the light generated by gas cookers.
Allegedly, in Malaya, Commonwealth officers would mandate an hour long tea break in a platoon harbour multiple times per day for "morale"... Meanwhile dipshit 1 pip in typical newbie officer fashion has gotten the platoon lost again and is trying to do some navigation checks in that hour. Good way of hiding mistakes and improving morale at the same time, in addition to being in a strong defensive position in the jungle where if someone interrupts your tea break with a contact, you're going to have a whole pile of angry Brits, Aussies and Kiwis ready to rip shit and bust because you ruined chill time. Also, all the packs would be co-located in a common location easily, so after a contact, you could load up and fuck off from the place you've figured out was your actual grid.
Lol
Coffee, my dear, is for breaks. Tea is for when important decisions and actions are to be made.
Britain: Spends almost all it’s money on tea.
China: THE SOURCE THAT EXISTS.
I remembered this lesson from one of my history of China classes back in university. What I remembered was that the British thought, "Okay, the Chinese got stuff that we really want but there's nothing that we have that they want...hey, wait! Let's get them addicted to drugs! That will totally solve our trading problem!" Great video, you guys! Love your lessons!
5:23 on ---- That has got to be the biggest diplomatic FAIL I have ever heard.
Then again, I'm not versed in history, or worldwide news.
Late saying that, but... if you still have not heard of Zimmermann telegram yet do look it up.
from the emperor letteer "Consider, moreover, that England is not the only barbarian land which wishes to establish"
You had one Job. Open the ports. Get the tea. Damn your pride.
And so Narcopolitics.
"Honorable" East India Company!?
Same reaction lol I'm guessing that was sarcasm
@@violetta698 Nope, 'The Honourable East India Company' was one of their official names. It's quite a tradition to attach ridiculous adjectives to titles in the British history / establishment. All the City of London guilds are called 'The Worshipful Company of Weavers' or whatever, and still today members of parliament still have to refer to one another as 'The Honourable Gentleman / Lady' rather than using their actual names. It's so pompous.
@@Fredreegz They are named Great Britain after all... jesus the self praise
@@Reformed_Zuko The narcissism extends sooooo deep.
Not if Pirates of the Caribbean has taught me anything! :P
this is the first mini series of extra history that I'm watching from the day the first episode on
Have fun!
well, me too! usually im on marathon
You get to wait a week now :)
Me to!
...i also...
You had me hooked when you mentioned tea. O_O
+Romulus Numa but true tea is funking amasing
I NEED MORE!!
Did somebody say tea?
he had me hooked when he said opium
oooooooooh it's Walpole!
Its pretty embarrassing how helpless China was during this compared to how overconfident they were going into it. At the start of the Opium wars they saw themselves as the undisputed strongest nation on Earth, but had no idea how much stronger of a threat the British Empire was.
It’s one reason they are so armed today. The Chinese during the 1950s onwards are paranoid that this would repeat again and have the whole country humiliated, so the armed forces and economy are ramped up to what we see today.
To think how many empires rise and fall. Look at the UK now.
The Qing had a chance. The governor of Canton saw war was coming and fortified the city, which was why the British skipped the port. Messages were sent to other port cities warning of the incoming British, but the local governors ignored it basically saying 'not my problem'. When the British started attacking and it was obvious the Qing forces were outmatched, the Emperor was indecisive and tried to draw the war out longer which only caused more indemities from the British.
After Interacting with only Asian countries for so long, you would see that the Qing Dynasty views herself as a Superior.
I think the same is happening to the US now. America views itself as the undisputed champion of the world, but right now it doesn't seem like they're winning against China right now.
Hey, they still had us Canadians!
Who?
(jk)
+AndyG94 North North Dakota
LOL!
Shots fired!
in all seriousness all the Canadian Territories were good for was (impractical) Lumber and Fur trapping
You mean acres of snow?
Nice to see a First Opium War Series. I included it as part of my history capstone paper, and its rather fascinating how much intricate interaction occurred to bring it about. Perhaps the most interesting part of it for me was the entire Pearl River Delta black market system which the British (and later American) traders broke into through shallow draft steam ships.
6:00 “My dad can beat up your dad” in a nutshell.
Well, if the British were out of money, why didn't they just try and get into the stock market?
Wait...
The detour are done by Walpole!
Did someone summon me?
dedication XD
Walpole! It was you all along!
Lunictd Woop, woop, woop, woop!
I am so glad you are doing this part of history! I found it utterly fascinating when I learned about it. Its a major part of what would lead to the fall of the Chinese dynasty and send it on the path that its on today. Not many in the West (including British citizens) know about this part of their colonial history, so thank you.
Please do a video on Queen Min/Empress Myeongseong of Korea? The way she tried to make changes but continually struggled against people of power around her is just one of many things that makes her life so interesting (and frustrating.)
A "minor" detour...
To another frigging continent xD
Why let minor detours to another continents in a way of sailing to the other side of the Earth.
Yeah, they might as well kept going west.
Minor might be stretching it a bit, but if you consider how circuitous the route to China was (not to mention it involves moving through two continents already, three if you count the fact that England is pretty much at the north end of Europe and therefore they would have to go past most of seabound Europe as well), and then compare that to the comparatively straight line crossing the Atlantic involved, it actually is relatively minor distance wise.
Maybe they just wanted to see the Carnivaaaaal!
"Wouldn't it be nice if we couldn't blown across the Atlantic when we sailed to China?"
"How do you suggest we do that?"
"Well...you know how windmills worked? Maybe if ships had propellers that were powered by internal windmills."
"Where would you get the wind?"
"Well, if there was a giant kettle belowdecks, the steam from it could turn the windmill."
"Have you been adding whiskey to your tea again?"
"...Maybe."
Then someone discovered that the Chinese liked drugs... it was Walpole.
Sure, let's go with that.
Ohai, Walpole. How are you doing?
+Robert Walpole +Sir Robert Walpole So who suggested the "Chinese likes drugs!" thing?
They're multiplying!
Whoever, whatever, whenever, wherever, there's always Walpole.
Portugal: Did somebody say spices?
Great Britain: Did somebody say tea?
US: Did somebody say oil?
Spain: Did somebody say gold?
Pretentious British Imperialists and Pretentious Chinese Imperialists?
Yep, that'll end well.
They're both Imperialists, one was just more advanced at the time.
@杨健 invaded Tibet, though. Even your average person knows there's a difference in being ethnic Tibetans or Chin imported Tibetans.
55 recognised ethnicities within China. So a lot of people within China aren't Chinese.
always does :D
@@teviottilehurst : Qing dynasty. You bringed up PRC which was set in different time. Before, China didn't invade any country but was bullied by 5 countries.
Luís Filipe Andrade - China is the result of foreign invasion. Mongols, Manchus, & yes, Tibetans were all once INVADERS to China. They invaded, they occupied, they fell out of power, they stayed, and now, they become part of China. They helped China's expansion. China, strictly speaking, the Han Chinese, are pretty docile a group of ppl. Pretty much all the invasions you thought about were done in non-Han Chinese dominance periods. China's land mass was at the peak during the Qing Dynasty, which was ruled by the Manchus & where native Han Chinese were regarded as 2nd class citizens. & it's the same treatment during the Mongol's rulings. Don't use a general term to tarnish all Chinese, esp if you wanna talk about history. The time the Great Wall of China starts construction is the time China finishes expansion. China doesn't want or need anything else, no Tibet, no Mongol, no other tribal regions, much less overseas. It's those tribes lusting & lurking over China's wealth that they decided to invade China, just like the English & the French, you get that? And they get what they deserve: become part of China. Honestly, just how twisted and evil are you to say China invaded those areas?? Are you French? Maybe that explains why you want to drag China down to your level: to make yourself feel less guilty about what you did to China. You French were worse than the Brits, & less successful worldwide... well, maybe Spain & Portugal were doing worse than France, but whatever. China never sent any officials overseas to dictate other countries, never forced their way in with guns & cannons, never forced other nations to convert into her religion, learn her language, & all these make a whole world's difference. Now, don't be evil & don't be a moron.
I love how everyone thinks ~ they're ~ the civilized ones XD
That's where the fun begin *yoo*
5:26 oh i just love how this bit was made
“I HAVE THE BETTER MONARCH”
“NO I HAVE THE BETTER MONARCH”
+Extra Credits I'm really surprised you guys are painting the British so favorably. The handling of the opium war by the british was some pretty villainous stuff. There are few times in history where the bad guys can be so easily spotted, but this is one of those times. Love your stuff and keep at it!!
China in this case is a cautionary tale of being too conservative and too isolationist. As FDR once said about isolationism: "Obviously a defense policy built on that is merely to invite future attack."
Now after a globalization whose benefits has been unevenly distributed due to capitalism instead of itself, many people are going backward. Sad.
i think that initially, china had the right to restrict trade, the british couldve gone without the tea, or even traded for the seeds and knowhow to farm it, stopped trading with china, and just started mass-farming tea in india or something, to be honest, i think the brits are at fault in this one because being so aggressive to a nation that just wants to be left alone is pretty ridiculous.
@@yibojing3345 capitalism hasn't unfairly, distributed the wealth. Ever since the fall of the USSR, the poverty went from 1/4 people to 1/20. Capitalism helps grow a middle and upper class, which is way better than just lower, and upper class. Capitalism creates competition which causes innovations.
@@RavenFlight413 yes they had a right to do so, and I respect that I really do. but the reason they did so because they wanted to hold on to power. If they opened up they could've industrialized and traded. and not have had a hundred years of embarrassment. They could've been able to not be a back water for 200 years. They could've been better, but the elite was afraid to lose power.
TNT Summers the war wasn’t about “free trade”, that’s a phrase shoved down your throat and misleading. THEY WERE STILL SELLING SILK TEA AND OTHER PRODUCTS. they just made it illegal to sell opium (heroin). And British invaded and enslaved a nation to make profit off killing them
Don’t make it heroic just cuz there British and this video clip should t be your only source of info
And this is how I learned how the American revolution tied directly into the opium wars. This channel is BEYOND amazing.
British Person: Look at all this opium we can smoke!
2nd Brit: But... But that tea doe...
WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A TRADE AGREEMENT WITH ENGLAND
With BRITAIN 🇬🇧
J 19 it’s a reference to civilization 5 you cretin
R/wooosh
Melvin Arfwedson r/Ihavereddit
Napoleon III in 1860: "I'd be interested if I wasn't so worried about another revolution happening". In the end, he did one though (much to the disgust of the trade unionists, who sought blanket protectionism for ALL French industry).
Love that video! Partly it is so funny meanwhile actual historical facts are presented. I´ll definitely continue with the other ones. thx :)
My history teacher glossed over so much. Thanks for being in detail.
I was dying of laughter with the meeting between George McCartney and the Emperor. XD
I reallyyyyy wish you guys would put your playlist in the description boxes 🤦🏻♀️ LOL. I’m a social studies teacher and I like to give kids access to your videos on some of the topics we cover incase they want to take a deeper dive into the material. Sometimes I use them to make Ed puzzles for review as well! You guys are awesome and thank you!!
Throwing something out there that I really hope you guys read - when the stories of interactions between European empires and Asian countries get told, they are very, very often told solely from the European perspective, and the Asian perspective is erased or seen as an unimportant subnarrative. This contributes to Orientalist issues, API erasure, and other forms of anti-Asian racism. Simply put, when our stories are not told, we are rendered invisible and it's harder to see us as people, see our cultures as human, or see our lives as important.
The Opium War was incredibly important to my people's history, and the Chinese perspective is just as important as the British one. If you're going to touch on this important piece of history, please, please, please make a point of telling both sides.
Cool story. The Qing were arrogant fools and got what they deserved.
Thank you!
@@combativeThinker Why dont i past judgement on and ENTIRE dynasty in hindsight sitting on my couch justifying the colonization of a civilizational state in order to feed your tea addiction.
Grow you own damn tea. You have the same mindset as the ppl back then.
@@Reformed_Zuko Why would I care about the British doing gunboat diplomacy on the Chinese when if the shoe was on the other foot, they would of done the same? Lol.
@@jerm70 If you look at history🌍 for 3/4 of the last 3000 years, China was at the peak of civilization. Yet China didnt go around the world just for material gains. Chinese civ see all races as people, and selling drugs to kids is wrong no matter what background youre from
I know this story so this should be good to see.
I know the version that includes a dragon air force and a British Prince of China, does that count?
Yeah, can't wait to hear how ExtraHistory tells the story
People: “Nooo,you can’t just sell drugs legally!” British Empire: “Hahah opium goes to China.”
*OPIUM GO BOOM*
So this whole thing started because Britain wanted to enable its massive Tea habit... Damn. That's incredible.
~sips Tea~
Oh boy. This story. Yeah the Brits don't talk about it much these days.
gee I wonder why we don't talk about starting the worst drug war of all time
What do you mean by talk about it?
Nerds Forever I wouldn't call it a drug war, or at least, not on our side. From the Chinese side, it was certainly a drug war, but if Pablo Escobar had the backing of a superpower.
well we were invading a nation to basically sell heroine that's pretty much a drug war
Nerds Forever what I mean is, a drug war is a war ON drugs, not a war to SELL drugs.
This is the first video I saw of you guys, my history teacher showed us this series when we were learning about China in the 18th and 18th century.
Already know that I will love the songs in this, the outro was amazing. The theme looks preety interesting too.
Heh, the art in Extra History keeps getting funnier and funnier. (Can you guys put the "instant trouble mix" thing at 5:18 on a tee shirt next?)
So a tea addiction caused chaos to unfold 😂 i love history
Fuck yeah. Selling drugs to buy tea is in my blood
It seems common decency never had any effect on the British Empire.
implying the chinese were nice people
get your liberal arts degree out of here
haha lol
nicer than the british at that time
the British were hardly bad in this episode?
Mabasei i dont want to redeem it, survival of the fittest you pansyass
This conflict is an excellent case study for Protectionism vs Free Trade and how the pendulum should in my view at least never swing to far in either direction or conflict will eventually become inevitable
I once saw a British-produced documentary on the Opium Wars that went something like "Ah, we wanted to sell other European goods to China, but noooo, they DEMANDED(!) we give them Opium and nothing else, and went to war to get it!" Sorta freaked me out. You Brits in the comments don't honestly think you had the moral high ground, right?
I'm pretty sure only idiots believe anyone has the moral high ground in war
Unfortunately, as with any nation there are people here in the UK who refuse to accept that the British Empire was anything more than a beacon of civilisation and freedom from barbarism (Which to an extent it was, but by being pretty shitty itself at times) and even view talking about negative aspects of the Empire as the height of unpatriotic behaviour.
You took the words right out my mouth. I was half way through saying something to the degree of "Moral highground in war? The very notion is... Bah!"
"Hubris is the death kings."
That pretty much sums up China during the 19th and early 20th centuries.
Conservatives in the US can be the same way. It appears we have the same curse. ;)
The Macartney mission was in retrospect a missed opportunity for China. Had the Qing Emperor and the ruling establishment been able to negotiate a trade agreement on more or less equal footing with the British and perhaps other Europeans. Maybe the Opium Wars could've have been avoided, and more importantly, China could've eased its isolationism and integrated into the modern world under more favorable circumstances. Instead, the closed mindedness of the ruling elite caused China to fall ever behind from Europe and it suffered more than a century of humiliation. Of course, the internal politics in China was ever so complicated and for it to adopt and learn from the West was going to be major challenge, possibly leading to end of Manchu rule, something that the Qing elite was not going to tolerate. In dealing with China's relations with the West in 19th century, the Qing rulers were at many times more afraid of losing power and control at home than conceding trade agreement or territories to Europeans. In their minds, the threat of Han majority rising up and regaining power was always more threatening than any treaty the West would impose. Had the ruling dynasty been Han instead of Manchu, I think China could have dealt with contact with West better. Of course, in this scenario China would most likely lose control over Tibet, Sinkiang, parts of Inner Mongolia and Manchuria coming into the modern era.
Arthur Yu Yes, I agree, but Lord Macartney never brought anything useful to the Chinese like Industrialized machines and you can't really blame the imperial court here, since it looked a tribute mission instead of a deal.
It would have made a big difference if Macartney just brought back some Chinese dignitaries to Britain so they could see it for themselves. Going straight to demanding territorial concessions was just bad deal making
Contrast this with the American mission to Japan in 1851 under Commodore Mathew Perry. Japan accepted the American demands (which were far more humiliating than the British terms with the Chinese), rapidly modernized and became a mighty Imperial Power in less than half a century.
@@chandruae well, perry showed up with gunboats in tow, whereas the british showed up with gifts and nothing else. pretty sure gunboats are more convincing
Well the problem is that China refused to see any nation in the world as an equal to themselves.
ExtraCredits is one of the best.
you ever get that, sinking feeling like you know something terrible is going to happen?
every time when I think about brexxit or donald trump...
I love this strange concept of "spoiling" centuries (sometimes even millennia) old history, brought about by extra history.
***** I put it this way because of "spoilers"
I've got a bad feeling about this...
i find it very interesting that the russian revolution happened in 1917 and the next election is in 2017
Mmmm. Tea.
I second the motion.
+Jake Pillsbury I third
Thirded.
+Zachary Damascus but late
*sips tea*
I love the facial expressions of these characters!
Fighting for tea. Wow, thats the most british thing ever.
how about fighting over tea at a football game
how about genuinely forgetting for a half a second that you weren't talking about American Football, that's the most American thing ever
.
Give
Me
That
Tea
According to the statistics shown in the clip, the annual net worth of the tea trade in Britain was around 25 billion pounds in today's money. Gives you a little perspective.
this all sounds silly now, but image today if all of the worlds coffee bean production was in one country, and that country put the same restrictions on trade as the Chinese did here, there would be armies on their beaches before you could even make a cup of coffee
My mother and grandmother strongly disagree, they would probably lead the first assault x'D
Yeah imagine as well today Brits selling a load of drugs and a biggest cartel on earth today. Must be crazy, right?
Britain: **Struggling to open trade**
China: Haha!
Britain: Aha! OPIUM!
China: *O h n o*
LoL, "Honorable" East India Company
That's literally the name the Company gave itself, which is both shocking and hilarious
To be fair to the Brits, ALL of the East India Companies were gross. Just look at the history of the Dutch Company
I'd say the dutch were worse, killed off entire islands to preserve the nutmeg monopoly.
like gamestops game publisher called "gametrust"
I had this exact same conversation when the South Seas company episodes were being released, with some fool who thought it was offensive to call them that.
It's literally their name.
Damn Walpole
Screwing with things since 1792
Where did this speaker go? Genuinely he told everything so much better, with a very sophisticated look, and didnt try to make clearly obvious humor twice per video...
From a history nerd to a fellow history nerd, I know you have already done one on China but can you please do a video on their ancient history? Specifically during the warring States era as described in the Chinese classic "romance of the three kingdoms"? It's their version of Shakespeare, basically a game of thrones with eunuchs killing kings and sons slaying fathers, some badass warrior called Lu Bu and a hero called Lin Biao and his sidekick Guan Yu who as the God of war is still revered by many in China to this day even though he was a real historical figure. The book is also all based upon one of the first ever unifications of the modern Chinese state. It's absolutely fascinating although I've been reading on it for a few months I still cannot wrap my head around it and think one of your videos would be perfect to explain it in a fun way.
I like how he calls the British East India Company "honourable".
I like what you did there contrasting Britain and China, as well as the King and Emperor :)
"Caution: Contains snark," is going to go on my letters from now on.
so basically to pay for the British addiction of tea, they got the Chinese on to an addiction of their own.
and addiction for a addiction xD
I always drink tea while watching this .
ooooooh that got REALLY sad right at the end
"honorable" east india company
bless your soul good sir who made this video i have to do an essay on this and all i’ve found is sketchy articles and this doesnt seem as sketchy!
Hello stranger watching in or after 2019 , I hope you have a nice day
'Honourable' East India Company... Honourable - my foot...
Edit : I thought it was impossible for me to hate the British Empire more after reading about the Freedom struggle of India, this video disproved it...
Love the detail of the book binding! Good job.
The Macartney embassy was good at first but got a little sappy in its later years.
I prefer the Laennon embassy.
What's wrong with silly love songs?
One of my all time favorite bass lines.
True.
Been waiting for such a joke :')
2:39 ah yes the classic, if they aren’t fallowing the rules make the rules even stricter, works every time.
People need to learn this history!
I want to see that full letter in the Lies episode.