First Opium War - Trade Deficits and the Macartney Embassy - Extra History - Part 1

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  • 📜 The First Opium War - Part 1 - Extra History
    In 1792, Great Britain had just come out of an expensive war that cost them their control over many of their colonies in North America. Other wars had also cost them their access to the silver mines of South America, which had been helping fund so much of their trade with the Qing Dynasty of China. European traders all wanted greater access to China, but the Emperor was wary of letting outsiders too far into his country and kept them all penned up at the port of Canton, which was strictly regulated by the Hong business group. A flourishing blackmarket trade grew, but Britain wanted more. One trader, acting on his own initiative, grew bold enough to approach Beijing and attempt to get a hearing over his trade grievances, but the Chinese considered this a huge breach of protocol and an offense to the Emperor. Britain had to do something, however: they imported over 10 million pounds of tea each year, equal to 10% of the government's annual spending, and the fact that China did not have anywhere near as great an interest in British products meant that they were running an enormous trade deficit they could no longer sustain. The Crown appointed an official envoy, Earl George Macartney, with orders to end the Canton system, establish an embassy, and acquire rights to an island that would be under British control in the same way that the Portuguese controlled Macao. The mission failed spectacularly. Although Macartney got permission to sail north and meet the Qianlong Emperor in his summer palace at Jehol, he refused to perform the traditional kowtow which was required upon meeting the Emperor. He presented gifts from the British court, but the Chinese interpreted these gifts as tribute, not trade enticements, and decided they had no need for nor interest in what he offered. Since he failed to get them to agree to any of his three requests, Britain wanted to find another way to address the trade imbalance with China. Soon, this would lead them to start bringing in opium.
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Комментарии • 3,4 тыс.

  • @Vicioussama
    @Vicioussama 8 лет назад +301

    East India Trading Company is a prime example of why large corporations corrupt governments and do more damage to a nation in their own self interest.

    • @Balsiefen
      @Balsiefen 8 лет назад +43

      Perhaps, but you can't deny they brought in money and resources that helped kick-start the industrial revolution, and it was territory they took in India that became the most valuable provinces of the Empire. Even the opium wars gave a much needed boost to the economy.
      I'm not saying they weren't crappy but most of the most powerful nations owe their position to some form of crappiness.

    • @Jenniferentrance
      @Jenniferentrance 8 лет назад +10

      If anything it's more of an example of the failure of Government intervention into businesses but sure.

    • @scaryfaced1
      @scaryfaced1 8 лет назад +26

      At the expense of every other culture they interacted with, but yes, it was a definite boon for the British Empire.

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 8 лет назад +29

      I... Don't know if it's a great example of a company damaging the nation it's FROM, but they caused a hell of a lot of damage to a lot of other countries.

    • @guentherhunter
      @guentherhunter 8 лет назад +16

      the east India company was more a sovereign state acting as a protectorate of the British monarchy than a private company chartered out of britain. So ya private corporations make more successful governments than actual governments.
      LIBERTARIAN INTERPRETATION FOR THE WIN!!!

  • @johnstuart1338
    @johnstuart1338 3 года назад +4243

    “The sun never sets on the British Empire, because God doesn’t trust the British in the dark.”

  • @jamboronite
    @jamboronite 5 лет назад +2052

    Mom: What did your learn today?
    Me:An English stereotype started a war!

    • @ian7019
      @ian7019 4 года назад +22

      Igstar 1 year later and ur still correct

    • @bigj1905
      @bigj1905 3 года назад +9

      @@ian7019 More like 200 years later.

    • @TheBluePhoenix008
      @TheBluePhoenix008 3 года назад +5

      @@bigj1905 more like 400 years

    • @Anne_q555
      @Anne_q555 2 года назад +2

      Space colonisation

    • @Detahramet
      @Detahramet 2 года назад +1

      Yeah they do that a lot.

  • @ninjaneko3113
    @ninjaneko3113 5 лет назад +531

    18th century: OMG THIS WAS MADE IN CHINA HOW MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!
    Now days: why is everything made in China??

    • @Bxll_Bxll
      @Bxll_Bxll 3 года назад +27

      XD relatable Im from HK and we rely on China for the goods

    • @jackyhe3192
      @jackyhe3192 3 года назад +13

      @@Bxll_Bxll I HK goods also called made in China?

    • @meoff7602
      @meoff7602 2 года назад

      Two years later and it's now. China is unfair because of the trade deficit we created by willingly importing thier goods.

    • @Lucky-qd6nh
      @Lucky-qd6nh 2 года назад

      @@Bxll_Bxll Hong Kong is part of China

    • @Bxll_Bxll
      @Bxll_Bxll 2 года назад +4

      @@Lucky-qd6nh depends on who you ask but the other countries call them China but we are somewhat independent

  • @Sylocat
    @Sylocat 8 лет назад +790

    I almost admire that the East India Company had the nerve to put "Honourable" in their name.

    • @Sylocat
      @Sylocat 8 лет назад +189

      Seriously, they were cartoonishly evil.

    • @VCYT
      @VCYT 8 лет назад +4

      In 1599 they were.

    • @Beowulf_DW
      @Beowulf_DW 8 лет назад +71

      I can just imagine how that meeting went.
      "Hohoho! Well, chaps, here's a spiffing wheeze! Let's name our company the East India Company, to stick it to those Dutch rotters, then we'll put 'Honourable' in front of it so all the fools will think we're nice people, and all the chaps and chappesses that can manage the complex process of thought will get bally well steamed, wot wot!"

    • @infamousempire8302
      @infamousempire8302 8 лет назад +18

      honorable is in the name because by those times imperialism was a good thing and a company encouraging imperialism was likely gonna get pretty popular during those days.

    • @tcpgblizzard
      @tcpgblizzard 8 лет назад +2

      Eh?

  • @andro7862
    @andro7862 8 лет назад +5751

    I didn't have enough money to buy tea, so I started selling drugs to chinese kids... -_British Empire 2016_

  • @jordananderson2728
    @jordananderson2728 5 лет назад +166

    Honestly I love the fact that the book is right-side bound. The level of accuracy to the little details is why I love this channel.

  • @sgtrpcommand3778
    @sgtrpcommand3778 5 лет назад +2795

    I’m British and this sounds 100% like something we would do for tea

    • @luska5522
      @luska5522 4 года назад +205

      you already did, twice

    • @jimzimmer2048
      @jimzimmer2048 4 года назад +24

      @Jacques Le Goudie the most successful pirates then huh

    • @scottydu81
      @scottydu81 4 года назад +28

      Just wait until you’d hear about the history of nutmeg

    • @sparx180
      @sparx180 3 года назад +4

      sgtrpcommand Too funny. Thanks.

    • @kamronspencer4910
      @kamronspencer4910 3 года назад +8

      @@scottydu81 expand on the history of nutmeg

  • @NemesisMKIII
    @NemesisMKIII 8 лет назад +2850

    And then the British learned just how profitable drug dealing could be...

    • @WM01129
      @WM01129 8 лет назад +308

      Brits did Breaking Bad 200 years before it's cool.

    • @CollinBuckman
      @CollinBuckman 8 лет назад +285

      The Brits began selling drugs to fund their tea addiction.

    • @FNGLHR
      @FNGLHR 8 лет назад +227

      "Say my name."
      "You're King George the Third"
      "You're goddamn right I am."

    • @CheCheDaWaff
      @CheCheDaWaff 8 лет назад +13

      +nemesismkiii
      What do you think had been going on with tea all this time? Addiction sells.

    • @1503nemanja
      @1503nemanja 8 лет назад +9

      Wait, wouldn't George say: "You're goddamn left I am."
      :P

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 6 лет назад +2293

    Breaking British.

    • @reddyforlenny9389
      @reddyforlenny9389 6 лет назад +147

      Jesse Pinkman: So Britain why did you get into the drug business?
      UK: After my fight with America I realized I couldn't live forever so I decided to make some extra money to keep Scotland and Wales to be well off when I'm gone...

    • @frenchsoldier8485
      @frenchsoldier8485 4 года назад +18

      @Aqil Ahmad U.K: So I started a war with China over tea

    • @Brandonhayhew
      @Brandonhayhew 4 года назад +6

      All Hail the King of Britain

    • @frenchsoldier8485
      @frenchsoldier8485 4 года назад +2

      @@Brandonhayhew All hail the working man

    • @quack2390
      @quack2390 4 года назад +7

      Breaking Brits

  • @lawsharland7278
    @lawsharland7278 6 лет назад +873

    For someone who is half Chinese and half English this was a very interesting war.

    • @Starwarsdude8221991
      @Starwarsdude8221991 4 года назад +26

      I bet I can’t help but wonder about similar cases like America Mexican with all that baggage

    • @midimusicforever
      @midimusicforever 4 года назад +15

      Internal conflict. :)

    • @angelabby2379
      @angelabby2379 4 года назад +16

      imagine if china accepted the knick knacks from england, they avoid awful war, got tons of english science stuff

    • @lawsharland7278
      @lawsharland7278 4 года назад +36

      @@angelabby2379 yup but unfortunately China had gotten used to being king of the world and in the end such complacency would cost them dearly

    • @mannhouse8014
      @mannhouse8014 3 года назад +1

      @Führer des Benutzers crawling in my *C R A W L* the edge

  • @lordjunal7470
    @lordjunal7470 4 года назад +34

    “Honorable east India company” was everything BUT honorable!

    • @arthurbuannic9888
      @arthurbuannic9888 4 года назад +3

      Given the context, I guess the meaning was more "even the East India Company, which contribution to the national treasure was honorable, etc...". Because morally speaking, yeah, not a lot of honor to be found there.

  • @judgeholden6761
    @judgeholden6761 8 лет назад +952

    "When goods can't cross borders, armies will."

    • @sheldon-cooper
      @sheldon-cooper 5 лет назад +8

      And in this case goods will come with them

    • @hineraable
      @hineraable 4 года назад +19

      @@sheldon-cooper
      Yeah but you cant not force a country to sell you tea.

    • @LLMood
      @LLMood 4 года назад +1

      When drugs can't cross borders narco state armies will cross

    • @Fredreegz
      @Fredreegz 4 года назад +3

      * America entered the chat *

  • @CollinBuckman
    @CollinBuckman 8 лет назад +175

    So the British Empire had a crippling addiction to tea?

    • @SaberToothPortilla
      @SaberToothPortilla 8 лет назад +36

      Pretty much, it's crazy that such a specific thing spread, but I guess it was a flavored drink that wasn't alcohol or juice. Juices didn't hold for super long and they were kinda expensive, alcohols disadvantages are self-explanatory. This is actually around the time that all of the social institutions surrounding tea started to establish themselves, tea time, being able to offer tea to guests. It's very strange, in hindsight.

    • @DjangoAsura
      @DjangoAsura 8 лет назад +9

      Which it retains to this day...

    • @legionfighter6789
      @legionfighter6789 8 лет назад +22

      YOU HAVE AN ADDICTION TO TEA
      -2 STRENGTH
      -1 CHARISMA
      -3 LUCK
      -2 PERCEPTION
      USE ADDICTOL TO CURE YOUR ADDICTION

    • @liem11
      @liem11 8 лет назад +1

      I am sure they had all sorts of herbal "tea," but it's just not the same. That's what we Americans did during the revolutionary war when we were unable to drink tea.

    • @hugepedlar
      @hugepedlar 8 лет назад +6

      Tea has antiseptic properties. It contributed a huge amount to the Industrial Revolution by enabling masses of people to move into the cities to work, by reducing water-borne diseases.

  • @PersianMapper
    @PersianMapper 5 лет назад +735

    So Britain basically had a...
    Drinking problem?

  • @abhaychavda3354
    @abhaychavda3354 5 лет назад +276

    "Honorable" East India Company!?

    • @violetta698
      @violetta698 4 года назад +23

      Same reaction lol I'm guessing that was sarcasm

    • @Fredreegz
      @Fredreegz 4 года назад +86

      @@violetta698 Nope, 'The Honourable East India Company' was one of their official names. It's quite a tradition to attach ridiculous adjectives to titles in the British history / establishment. All the City of London guilds are called 'The Worshipful Company of Weavers' or whatever, and still today members of parliament still have to refer to one another as 'The Honourable Gentleman / Lady' rather than using their actual names. It's so pompous.

    • @r3fus32d13
      @r3fus32d13 4 года назад +42

      @@Fredreegz They are named Great Britain after all... jesus the self praise

    • @lolnoorly
      @lolnoorly 4 года назад +28

      @@r3fus32d13 The narcissism extends sooooo deep.

    • @JainaSoloB312
      @JainaSoloB312 4 года назад +3

      Not if Pirates of the Caribbean has taught me anything! :P

  • @althesian9741
    @althesian9741 8 лет назад +871

    As a Chinese, i can tell you that tea is just that addicting. I can't even imagine anyone wanting to drink beer or wine but tea, oh man i could drink 10-20 cups without stopping. This addiction goes both ways.

    • @IAmTheStig32
      @IAmTheStig32 5 лет назад +56

      Tea is actually mildly euphoric.

    • @azelfdaboi5265
      @azelfdaboi5265 5 лет назад +34

      Us Taiwanese love tea aswell

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum 5 лет назад +44

      Started drinking tea ☕️ in college. Five years later, and I CAN’T STOP!

    • @DrSmollest
      @DrSmollest 5 лет назад +16

      @JadeWarrior You've incurred the wrath of Britain, prepare to be robbed of your land and exiled.

    • @DrSmollest
      @DrSmollest 5 лет назад +7

      @Long schlong Oof, my parents are Indian so I have a lot of experience on farms, I am also hiding here because of a certain dislike in my anti-social house.

  • @AndyG94
    @AndyG94 8 лет назад +703

    Two Empires, both alike in dignity,
    In fair Ocean, where we lay our scene,
    From ancient trade rules break to new mutiny,
    Where civil blood makes civil hands unclean.
    From forth the fatal loins of these two foes
    A pair of star-cross'd traders take their life;
    Whose misadventured piteous overthrows....

    • @PinWriter
      @PinWriter 8 лет назад +41

      Bravo! Encore!

    • @Thedude3rd
      @Thedude3rd 8 лет назад +66

      "Fatal loins"
      *immature giggle*

    • @rhemorigher
      @rhemorigher 8 лет назад +52

      He's paraphrasing Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet for those wondering.
      "Two households, both alike in dignity in fair Verona, where we lay our scene, from ancient
      grudge break to new mutiny-uncivil blood makes civil hands unclean
      From forth the fatal loins of these two foes, a pair of star-crossed lovers
      take their life-whose misadventured, piteous overthrow doth with their death bury their parents’strife.
      The fearful passage of their death-marked love in the continuance of their parents’ rage
      - that nought but children’s end could remove-
      is now the two hours’ traffic of our stage.
      The which, if you with patient ears attend, what they shall miss, our toil will strive tomend….”

    • @kassiekitsune189
      @kassiekitsune189 8 лет назад +6

      *parody

    • @rhemorigher
      @rhemorigher 8 лет назад +8

      Wolfhaven *parodying ... by paraphrasing.

  • @smittywerbenjaegermanjense7376
    @smittywerbenjaegermanjense7376 5 лет назад +118

    So, the cause in a nutshell:
    "We don't think we should be bound by the laws of the country we're working in!"

  • @Ducks892
    @Ducks892 4 года назад +21

    Britain: Spends almost all it’s money on tea.
    China: THE SOURCE THAT EXISTS.

  • @bobjones4762
    @bobjones4762 8 лет назад +1432

    This is actually great, being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese. The way that extra credits explains both sides is deeply fascinating and I'm genuinely interested to learn more.

    • @bobjones4762
      @bobjones4762 8 лет назад +136

      I'm Chinese, not necessarily from China, it's a common mistake. I meant it in the sense where grandparents/ parents tell you of your ancestral background. By the way, where did you hear that from? While it is true that China's government is very sensitive about it's media, it's open borders policy has led it to be the world's second largest economy. And their standards of regulation is dropping, movies such as V for vendetta for one was shown on public television and Disneyland was just opened in Shanghai.

    • @frankhill4358
      @frankhill4358 7 лет назад +58

      +LoZ Collector With all due respect. "Communist" (if you go there capitalistic ideals are much more prevelant) China isn't what you watch in Cold War cartoons

    • @jerkchicken_expertlyseasoned
      @jerkchicken_expertlyseasoned 6 лет назад +243

      "being Chinese I've always learnt how the opium wars were started by malicious traders from Europe who wanted nothing more than profit at the expense of hardworking Chinese"
      I mean... this is still true.

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker 5 лет назад +9

      Yeah, your ancestors weren't as innocent as you thought.

    • @flyingfishie401
      @flyingfishie401 5 лет назад +12

      I’m Irish myself, but I’ve always been fascinated by China. These videos really opened my eyes on this concealed country

  • @extrahistory
    @extrahistory  8 лет назад +607

    The stage gets set for the first Opium War, as trade between China and Britain grows tense.

    • @janipuranen7906
      @janipuranen7906 8 лет назад +1

      Cant wait second part :^D

    • @ThatGuy-bx9fs
      @ThatGuy-bx9fs 8 лет назад +2

      me to!

    • @VaqueroCoyote
      @VaqueroCoyote 8 лет назад

      Awesome that you posted this! I just began reading about reading about China's Century of Humiliation a couple of weeks ago. Thanks for making it easier.

    • @randomstuff063
      @randomstuff063 8 лет назад +1

      It say you comment 21 hours ago.

    • @anthonyyates9003
      @anthonyyates9003 8 лет назад +5

      small change I would make to the introduction the British did not lose the hole content only the usa cannada was still very much British ruled

  • @hockeyislife2
    @hockeyislife2 4 года назад +89

    “Britain threw a hisyyfit and made them open five cities and give them an island” Bill Wurtz

  • @lloydbautista2055
    @lloydbautista2055 6 лет назад +371

    Its pretty embarrassing how helpless China was during this compared to how overconfident they were going into it. At the start of the Opium wars they saw themselves as the undisputed strongest nation on Earth, but had no idea how much stronger of a threat the British Empire was.

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 6 лет назад +161

      It’s one reason they are so armed today. The Chinese during the 1950s onwards are paranoid that this would repeat again and have the whole country humiliated, so the armed forces and economy are ramped up to what we see today.

    • @Edeinawc
      @Edeinawc 5 лет назад +63

      To think how many empires rise and fall. Look at the UK now.

    • @taoliu3949
      @taoliu3949 5 лет назад +39

      The Qing had a chance. The governor of Canton saw war was coming and fortified the city, which was why the British skipped the port. Messages were sent to other port cities warning of the incoming British, but the local governors ignored it basically saying 'not my problem'. When the British started attacking and it was obvious the Qing forces were outmatched, the Emperor was indecisive and tried to draw the war out longer which only caused more indemities from the British.

    • @alexanderp.r7570
      @alexanderp.r7570 5 лет назад +15

      After Interacting with only Asian countries for so long, you would see that the Qing Dynasty views herself as a Superior.

    • @kckdude913
      @kckdude913 5 лет назад +36

      I think the same is happening to the US now. America views itself as the undisputed champion of the world, but right now it doesn't seem like they're winning against China right now.

  • @CazTheGamerGuy
    @CazTheGamerGuy 8 лет назад +557

    The War on Drugs? More like The War For Drugs!
    What a different time we live in...

    • @GhostInTheShell29
      @GhostInTheShell29 8 лет назад +5

      How is it any different. The Americans are currently fighting a war for control of the Opium market. And doing a pretty good job at it, every year opium production hits a new record high. And the U.S. has a near monopoly on transportation out of Asia.

    • @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
      @PristianoPenaldoSUIIII 8 лет назад +34

      +GhostInTheShell29
      It's different now because we hide our imperialism a little better.

    • @shayneoneill1506
      @shayneoneill1506 8 лет назад +7

      I doubt thats much of an incentive to the americans. Opiums easy to grow. Hell the old lady down the road from me used to have opium poppies in her garden until one of the local junkies worked it out and raided her garden. Tasmania in australia has the capacity to spin up opium production enough to cover the worlds needs, if needed, and its not the only legitimate opium producer either. If the US is taking control of opium in afghanistan, its primarily to stop farmers selling it to the taliban who use it to fund their wars in pashtun regions of afghanistan and pakistan. The profits would not justify the military expenses. Now oil and rare metals on the other hand. That shits big money.

    • @pliniomelo6295
      @pliniomelo6295 8 лет назад +1

      not that good like 90% of the dictatorships on south america were OBVIOUSLY incentivied by the US

    • @gregmiller9710
      @gregmiller9710 8 лет назад

      yeah, well, we the people ain't gittin' none of it....

  • @seancreedon4399
    @seancreedon4399 8 лет назад +1258

    Never, EVER get between the British and their tea!

    • @1Dyermaker
      @1Dyermaker 8 лет назад +48

      Thanks for the tip, Mr. Bean.

    • @abitraryedits9355
      @abitraryedits9355 8 лет назад +13

      +Julius Caesar Your salads and codes are great.

    • @franzluggin398
      @franzluggin398 8 лет назад +4

      Your calendar sucked, though, so we got rid of it. Nothing personal.

    • @1Dyermaker
      @1Dyermaker 8 лет назад +7

      Franz Luggin You try making an closer accurate calender when all you have in the world for astrology is looking at the sandwich your own eyes.

    • @franzluggin398
      @franzluggin398 8 лет назад +5

      Hey, I don't blame you. You tried.
      It's okay.
      Really.

  • @RanOutOfSpac
    @RanOutOfSpac 3 года назад +15

    6:00 “My dad can beat up your dad” in a nutshell.

  • @famweefood7073
    @famweefood7073 2 года назад +18

    Ok, I love extra history because is opened me up to learning. After years of watching this channel and many others I’ve been able to run the field in class debates using my historical knowledge to show why other people’s ideas might be good or absolutely suck. It’s crazy to me that you can learn all this stuff for free. I hope this channel stays alive for a long long time.

  • @cyancat5451
    @cyancat5451 8 лет назад +753

    Now we know how to keep the UK in the EU. Block their tea trade if they withdraw

    • @Electric999999
      @Electric999999 8 лет назад +131

      When you see the rest of this you'll realise why trying to block our tea trade is a really bad idea.

    • @alangriffith9453
      @alangriffith9453 8 лет назад +49

      If tea came from Europe, that'd be a great idea.
      Though if tea did come from Europe, it would have been Britain instead of Napoleonic France that tried to conquer most of Europe. While China would have been left to do its own thing. So the world would look rather different.

    • @mistformsquirrel
      @mistformsquirrel 8 лет назад +32

      So they'll suffer from... withdrawl symptoms? >_>
      Geddit?
      ... I'll get my coat.

    • @leviadragon99
      @leviadragon99 8 лет назад +19

      ***** Oh wow, not having dictatorial control of vassal states and instead having to share power with other nations as equals, how on earth will you cope? And you call the other members of the EU whiners...

    • @watayukikimihyra7132
      @watayukikimihyra7132 8 лет назад

      good idea...

  • @somedragonbastard
    @somedragonbastard 7 лет назад +64

    ...
    I swear, Britain itself is the one perpetuating this tea stereotype...

  • @HanaOtep
    @HanaOtep 4 года назад +3

    Love that video! Partly it is so funny meanwhile actual historical facts are presented. I´ll definitely continue with the other ones. thx :)

  • @liftfork
    @liftfork 5 лет назад

    This is the first video I saw of you guys, my history teacher showed us this series when we were learning about China in the 18th and 18th century.

  • @KennyHazy97
    @KennyHazy97 8 лет назад +926

    We may cross oceans and divide continents, but so help us God, we are going to get our tea, and make a giant stack of cash on the way.

  • @chloebarnes6167
    @chloebarnes6167 7 лет назад +90

    "We put drugs in our tea to add flavour."
    -from a legit British person

  • @ericachambers256
    @ericachambers256 3 года назад +1

    I reallyyyyy wish you guys would put your playlist in the description boxes 🤦🏻‍♀️ LOL. I’m a social studies teacher and I like to give kids access to your videos on some of the topics we cover incase they want to take a deeper dive into the material. Sometimes I use them to make Ed puzzles for review as well! You guys are awesome and thank you!!

  • @thelastoutcast9266
    @thelastoutcast9266 4 года назад +15

    People: “Nooo,you can’t just sell drugs legally!” British Empire: “Hahah opium goes to China.”

  • @KK-804
    @KK-804 6 лет назад +217

    Got it, That's why china bans drugs so deadly.

    • @colonelkk
      @colonelkk 4 года назад +1

      ...

    • @czsun4349
      @czsun4349 3 года назад +3

      truth.

    • @susan4212
      @susan4212 3 года назад +1

      and why they hates the west and why HKers are confused

    • @crook7493
      @crook7493 3 года назад

      this war is probably why China gives the death penalty to people found with weed. A bit extra innit

  • @RomanImperialXII
    @RomanImperialXII 8 лет назад +289

    A "minor" detour...
    To another frigging continent xD

    • @MrDUneven
      @MrDUneven 8 лет назад +56

      Why let minor detours to another continents in a way of sailing to the other side of the Earth.

    • @finnelhumano6096
      @finnelhumano6096 8 лет назад +2

      Yeah, they might as well kept going west.

    • @ACommonHero2
      @ACommonHero2 8 лет назад +4

      Minor might be stretching it a bit, but if you consider how circuitous the route to China was (not to mention it involves moving through two continents already, three if you count the fact that England is pretty much at the north end of Europe and therefore they would have to go past most of seabound Europe as well), and then compare that to the comparatively straight line crossing the Atlantic involved, it actually is relatively minor distance wise.

    • @1503nemanja
      @1503nemanja 8 лет назад +6

      Maybe they just wanted to see the Carnivaaaaal!

    • @timothymclean
      @timothymclean 8 лет назад +37

      "Wouldn't it be nice if we couldn't blown across the Atlantic when we sailed to China?"
      "How do you suggest we do that?"
      "Well...you know how windmills worked? Maybe if ships had propellers that were powered by internal windmills."
      "Where would you get the wind?"
      "Well, if there was a giant kettle belowdecks, the steam from it could turn the windmill."
      "Have you been adding whiskey to your tea again?"
      "...Maybe."

  • @kadycooley6479
    @kadycooley6479 6 лет назад +1

    Love the detail of the book binding! Good job.

  • @Jefrings
    @Jefrings 6 лет назад +3

    Portugal: Did somebody say spices?
    Great Britain: Did somebody say tea?
    US: Did somebody say oil?
    Spain: Did somebody say gold?

  • @midnightwolfwarrior
    @midnightwolfwarrior 7 лет назад +62

    I love these videos because they work as either a radio show, in the background of Warframe or some other high intensity, low planning game, or as a wonderful presentation.

  • @seahawk124
    @seahawk124 8 лет назад +736

    The entire British empire was built on cups of tea.
    And if you think us Brits are going to war without one, mate, you're much mistaken.

    • @seahawk124
      @seahawk124 8 лет назад +39

      Sure thing, guv'nah. I'd love a cuppa.
      Would you like a couple of delicious crumpets or some of the fineness Batterberg cake in the whole of Hampshire?

    • @TimmyCutts22
      @TimmyCutts22 8 лет назад +38

      Considering your tanks are all equipped with boiling vessels, that's hardly surprising. Not that I'm complaining or anything. It's a genius idea.

    • @Nucl3arDude
      @Nucl3arDude 8 лет назад +24

      Not just tanks. Every grunt usually buys a jetboil/gas cooker to boil water for any form of brew, be it tea or otherwise. It's essential in every commonwealth army, where it is a matter of morale! (They said that about shaving in the field, but fuck that, that's a waste of perfectly potable water). Especially in defensive exercises/dug in positions where we'll often dig a brew shelf in our pits to hide the light generated by gas cookers.
      Allegedly, in Malaya, Commonwealth officers would mandate an hour long tea break in a platoon harbour multiple times per day for "morale"... Meanwhile dipshit 1 pip in typical newbie officer fashion has gotten the platoon lost again and is trying to do some navigation checks in that hour. Good way of hiding mistakes and improving morale at the same time, in addition to being in a strong defensive position in the jungle where if someone interrupts your tea break with a contact, you're going to have a whole pile of angry Brits, Aussies and Kiwis ready to rip shit and bust because you ruined chill time. Also, all the packs would be co-located in a common location easily, so after a contact, you could load up and fuck off from the place you've figured out was your actual grid.

    • @jpcabrera6021
      @jpcabrera6021 8 лет назад

      Lol

    • @seahawk124
      @seahawk124 8 лет назад +36

      Coffee, my dear, is for breaks. Tea is for when important decisions and actions are to be made.

  • @rogerhazen3664
    @rogerhazen3664 5 лет назад

    i love love love this channel. thank you for it, Extra Credits

  • @user-hb4zz4gh5e
    @user-hb4zz4gh5e 4 года назад +4

    Please do a video on Queen Min/Empress Myeongseong of Korea? The way she tried to make changes but continually struggled against people of power around her is just one of many things that makes her life so interesting (and frustrating.)

  • @voxhominem
    @voxhominem 7 лет назад +58

    they forgot to say that macartney visit the qianlong emperor on the emperors birthday which fueled the confusion, and that the Portuguese were already exporting opium into China

  • @grfrjiglstan
    @grfrjiglstan 8 лет назад +344

    Well, if the British were out of money, why didn't they just try and get into the stock market?
    Wait...

    • @WM01129
      @WM01129 8 лет назад +68

      The detour are done by Walpole!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 8 лет назад +120

      Did someone summon me?

    • @koala_8027
      @koala_8027 8 лет назад +1

      dedication XD

    • @Lunictd
      @Lunictd 8 лет назад +16

      Walpole! It was you all along!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 8 лет назад +23

      Lunictd Woop, woop, woop, woop!

  • @Dreamer-kf2pn
    @Dreamer-kf2pn 2 года назад

    And this is how I learned how the American revolution tied directly into the opium wars. This channel is BEYOND amazing.

  • @iankobe
    @iankobe 5 лет назад

    Thank you so much for making these T.T

  • @williamheayn3760
    @williamheayn3760 8 лет назад +431

    Hey, they still had us Canadians!

    • @AndyG94
      @AndyG94 8 лет назад +89

      Who?
      (jk)

    • @Vanalovan
      @Vanalovan 8 лет назад +107

      +AndyG94 North North Dakota

    • @SunnyZ
      @SunnyZ 8 лет назад +2

      LOL!
      Shots fired!

    • @kazmark_gl8652
      @kazmark_gl8652 8 лет назад +30

      in all seriousness all the Canadian Territories were good for was (impractical) Lumber and Fur trapping

    • @srvaudiau
      @srvaudiau 8 лет назад +6

      You mean acres of snow?

  • @jaypillsbury843
    @jaypillsbury843 8 лет назад +330

    You had me hooked when you mentioned tea. O_O

    • @ed4pints
      @ed4pints 8 лет назад +1

      +Romulus Numa but true tea is funking amasing

    • @Kobrag90
      @Kobrag90 8 лет назад +1

      I NEED MORE!!

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 8 лет назад +16

      Did somebody say tea?

    • @NOG9003
      @NOG9003 8 лет назад +5

      he had me hooked when he said opium

    • @MrCaptainStuff
      @MrCaptainStuff 8 лет назад +2

      oooooooooh it's Walpole!

  • @JohnDoe-qk7vm
    @JohnDoe-qk7vm 6 лет назад

    I really like these videos. Keep up the good work.

  • @rukiasbankaii
    @rukiasbankaii 6 лет назад

    This is amazng! Everythings is super accurate! And i love the cartoons ^___^ thank u dude you're awesome!

  • @KendrixTermina
    @KendrixTermina 7 лет назад +44

    I love how everyone thinks ~ they're ~ the civilized ones XD

  • @AgentClank
    @AgentClank 8 лет назад +95

    WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN A TRADE AGREEMENT WITH ENGLAND

    • @Valencetheshireman927
      @Valencetheshireman927 4 года назад +1

      With BRITAIN 🇬🇧

    • @tacoblude8208
      @tacoblude8208 4 года назад +2

      J 19 it’s a reference to civilization 5 you cretin

    • @melvinarfwedson3494
      @melvinarfwedson3494 4 года назад

      R/wooosh

    • @tacoblude8208
      @tacoblude8208 4 года назад +1

      Melvin Arfwedson r/Ihavereddit

    • @thunderbird1921
      @thunderbird1921 3 года назад

      Napoleon III in 1860: "I'd be interested if I wasn't so worried about another revolution happening". In the end, he did one though (much to the disgust of the trade unionists, who sought blanket protectionism for ALL French industry).

  • @nerfshooter4216
    @nerfshooter4216 3 года назад +6

    Britain: **Struggling to open trade**
    China: Haha!
    Britain: Aha! OPIUM!
    China: *O h n o*

  • @closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0
    @closetglobe.IRGUN.NW0 Год назад +9

    The carti wars

  • @jordanloux3883
    @jordanloux3883 8 лет назад +239

    3:35 'Honorable East India Company.' HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA! That's a good one Dan!

    • @speedy01247
      @speedy01247 8 лет назад +55

      I must agree the company was one of the worst companies to exist.

    • @alexarnold8461
      @alexarnold8461 8 лет назад +120

      Honourable is part of the name, not a descriptor

    • @Hjernespreng
      @Hjernespreng 8 лет назад +40

      It's the freaking NAME!

    • @samuelfeder9764
      @samuelfeder9764 8 лет назад +39

      It sure is the name, but they also shortened the name of the Emperor of China to "Emperor" instead of saying his full name with titles.
      But honestly I think Poes law applies here, I'm pretty sure that they thought that the 'honorable' East Indian Company was so obviously not honorable that people would get they just used the full name in a sarcastic way... =)

    • @ImranAhmad-rz5oz
      @ImranAhmad-rz5oz 8 лет назад +9

      I am sure the script was written by James. This is usually how he expresses his twisted and lovable sense of humor.

  • @gabrielsinnott329
    @gabrielsinnott329 8 лет назад +35

    British Person: Look at all this opium we can smoke!
    2nd Brit: But... But that tea doe...

  • @ozdecakemaster1923
    @ozdecakemaster1923 5 лет назад +1

    THANK YOU SO MUCH,God bless you my man

  • @hanaw4613
    @hanaw4613 5 лет назад

    I love these episodes, they have lots of info

  • @whitedragon1204
    @whitedragon1204 8 лет назад +46

    I know this story so this should be good to see.

    • @AzhreiVep
      @AzhreiVep 8 лет назад +12

      I know the version that includes a dragon air force and a British Prince of China, does that count?

    • @HAHA4625
      @HAHA4625 8 лет назад +1

      Yeah, can't wait to hear how ExtraHistory tells the story

  • @vidyaorszag
    @vidyaorszag 8 лет назад +649

    Pretentious British Imperialists and Pretentious Chinese Imperialists?
    Yep, that'll end well.

    • @cheezcarrot9633
      @cheezcarrot9633 5 лет назад +108

      They're both Imperialists, one was just more advanced at the time.

    • @teviottilehurst
      @teviottilehurst 5 лет назад +51

      @杨健 invaded Tibet, though. Even your average person knows there's a difference in being ethnic Tibetans or Chin imported Tibetans.
      55 recognised ethnicities within China. So a lot of people within China aren't Chinese.

    • @AnimeShinigami13
      @AnimeShinigami13 5 лет назад +3

      always does :D

    • @spikebaltar5071
      @spikebaltar5071 5 лет назад +17

      @@teviottilehurst : Qing dynasty. You bringed up PRC which was set in different time. Before, China didn't invade any country but was bullied by 5 countries.

    • @YTofuable
      @YTofuable 5 лет назад +21

      Luís Filipe Andrade - China is the result of foreign invasion. Mongols, Manchus, & yes, Tibetans were all once INVADERS to China. They invaded, they occupied, they fell out of power, they stayed, and now, they become part of China. They helped China's expansion. China, strictly speaking, the Han Chinese, are pretty docile a group of ppl. Pretty much all the invasions you thought about were done in non-Han Chinese dominance periods. China's land mass was at the peak during the Qing Dynasty, which was ruled by the Manchus & where native Han Chinese were regarded as 2nd class citizens. & it's the same treatment during the Mongol's rulings. Don't use a general term to tarnish all Chinese, esp if you wanna talk about history. The time the Great Wall of China starts construction is the time China finishes expansion. China doesn't want or need anything else, no Tibet, no Mongol, no other tribal regions, much less overseas. It's those tribes lusting & lurking over China's wealth that they decided to invade China, just like the English & the French, you get that? And they get what they deserve: become part of China. Honestly, just how twisted and evil are you to say China invaded those areas?? Are you French? Maybe that explains why you want to drag China down to your level: to make yourself feel less guilty about what you did to China. You French were worse than the Brits, & less successful worldwide... well, maybe Spain & Portugal were doing worse than France, but whatever. China never sent any officials overseas to dictate other countries, never forced their way in with guns & cannons, never forced other nations to convert into her religion, learn her language, & all these make a whole world's difference. Now, don't be evil & don't be a moron.

  • @ROM3O_
    @ROM3O_ 6 месяцев назад +6

    Where’s Ken Carson and Carti????

  • @Chucktage
    @Chucktage 6 лет назад +2

    I love the facial expressions of these characters!

  • @EnvoyOfTheBlackAbyss
    @EnvoyOfTheBlackAbyss 8 лет назад +85

    5:23 on ---- That has got to be the biggest diplomatic FAIL I have ever heard.
    Then again, I'm not versed in history, or worldwide news.

    • @konstantinkarandashev558
      @konstantinkarandashev558 5 лет назад +2

      Late saying that, but... if you still have not heard of Zimmermann telegram yet do look it up.

    • @Mitaka.Kotsuka
      @Mitaka.Kotsuka 4 года назад +2

      from the emperor letteer "Consider, moreover, that England is not the only barbarian land which wishes to establish"

    • @BonifacioMarioJrPena
      @BonifacioMarioJrPena 4 года назад +3

      You had one Job. Open the ports. Get the tea. Damn your pride.
      And so Narcopolitics.

  • @Neuroticmancer
    @Neuroticmancer 8 лет назад +84

    Fuck yeah. Selling drugs to buy tea is in my blood

  • @susannguyen9371
    @susannguyen9371 2 года назад

    5:26 oh i just love how this bit was made
    “I HAVE THE BETTER MONARCH”
    “NO I HAVE THE BETTER MONARCH”

  • @randonceccoli8428
    @randonceccoli8428 4 года назад

    Awesome story, awesome video. Well done sir!

  • @rin_etoware_2989
    @rin_etoware_2989 8 лет назад +1958

    Then someone discovered that the Chinese liked drugs... it was Walpole.

    • @sirrobertwalpole913
      @sirrobertwalpole913 8 лет назад +166

      Sure, let's go with that.

    • @robertwalpole360
      @robertwalpole360 8 лет назад +114

      Ohai, Walpole. How are you doing?

    • @rin_etoware_2989
      @rin_etoware_2989 8 лет назад +11

      +Robert Walpole +Sir Robert Walpole So who suggested the "Chinese likes drugs!" thing?

    • @CriticbyMidnight
      @CriticbyMidnight 8 лет назад +29

      They're multiplying!

    • @FinMertons
      @FinMertons 8 лет назад +11

      Whoever, whatever, whenever, wherever, there's always Walpole.

  • @eoinharrington2692
    @eoinharrington2692 8 лет назад +41

    this is the first mini series of extra history that I'm watching from the day the first episode on

  • @alyssaduran1268
    @alyssaduran1268 3 года назад

    bless your soul good sir who made this video i have to do an essay on this and all i’ve found is sketchy articles and this doesnt seem as sketchy!

  • @shoaibshaikh9847
    @shoaibshaikh9847 5 лет назад +6

    I like how he calls the British East India Company "honourable".

  • @wratched
    @wratched 8 лет назад +81

    Oh boy. This story. Yeah the Brits don't talk about it much these days.

    • @nerdsforever4852
      @nerdsforever4852 8 лет назад +24

      gee I wonder why we don't talk about starting the worst drug war of all time

    • @CornishCreamtea07
      @CornishCreamtea07 8 лет назад +1

      What do you mean by talk about it?

    • @wratched
      @wratched 8 лет назад +7

      Nerds Forever I wouldn't call it a drug war, or at least, not on our side. From the Chinese side, it was certainly a drug war, but if Pablo Escobar had the backing of a superpower.

    • @nerdsforever4852
      @nerdsforever4852 8 лет назад +23

      well we were invading a nation to basically sell heroine that's pretty much a drug war

    • @wratched
      @wratched 8 лет назад +3

      Nerds Forever what I mean is, a drug war is a war ON drugs, not a war to SELL drugs.

  • @KTChamberlain
    @KTChamberlain 7 лет назад +353

    China in this case is a cautionary tale of being too conservative and too isolationist. As FDR once said about isolationism: "Obviously a defense policy built on that is merely to invite future attack."

    • @yibojing3345
      @yibojing3345 6 лет назад +7

      Now after a globalization whose benefits has been unevenly distributed due to capitalism instead of itself, many people are going backward. Sad.

    • @Reivehn
      @Reivehn 6 лет назад +104

      i think that initially, china had the right to restrict trade, the british couldve gone without the tea, or even traded for the seeds and knowhow to farm it, stopped trading with china, and just started mass-farming tea in india or something, to be honest, i think the brits are at fault in this one because being so aggressive to a nation that just wants to be left alone is pretty ridiculous.

    • @tntsummers926
      @tntsummers926 5 лет назад +24

      @@yibojing3345 capitalism hasn't unfairly, distributed the wealth. Ever since the fall of the USSR, the poverty went from 1/4 people to 1/20. Capitalism helps grow a middle and upper class, which is way better than just lower, and upper class. Capitalism creates competition which causes innovations.

    • @tntsummers926
      @tntsummers926 5 лет назад +16

      @@Reivehn yes they had a right to do so, and I respect that I really do. but the reason they did so because they wanted to hold on to power. If they opened up they could've industrialized and traded. and not have had a hundred years of embarrassment. They could've been able to not be a back water for 200 years. They could've been better, but the elite was afraid to lose power.

    • @robertdavis2998
      @robertdavis2998 5 лет назад +44

      TNT Summers the war wasn’t about “free trade”, that’s a phrase shoved down your throat and misleading. THEY WERE STILL SELLING SILK TEA AND OTHER PRODUCTS. they just made it illegal to sell opium (heroin). And British invaded and enslaved a nation to make profit off killing them
      Don’t make it heroic just cuz there British and this video clip should t be your only source of info

  • @ThatFanBoyGuy
    @ThatFanBoyGuy 6 лет назад

    I like what you did there contrasting Britain and China, as well as the King and Emperor :)

  • @Lord_Foxy13
    @Lord_Foxy13 4 года назад +1

    This conflict is an excellent case study for Protectionism vs Free Trade and how the pendulum should in my view at least never swing to far in either direction or conflict will eventually become inevitable

  • @Galistarwater
    @Galistarwater 6 лет назад +9

    I remembered this lesson from one of my history of China classes back in university. What I remembered was that the British thought, "Okay, the Chinese got stuff that we really want but there's nothing that we have that they want...hey, wait! Let's get them addicted to drugs! That will totally solve our trading problem!" Great video, you guys! Love your lessons!

  • @JustinWoo
    @JustinWoo 8 лет назад +87

    Throwing something out there that I really hope you guys read - when the stories of interactions between European empires and Asian countries get told, they are very, very often told solely from the European perspective, and the Asian perspective is erased or seen as an unimportant subnarrative. This contributes to Orientalist issues, API erasure, and other forms of anti-Asian racism. Simply put, when our stories are not told, we are rendered invisible and it's harder to see us as people, see our cultures as human, or see our lives as important.
    The Opium War was incredibly important to my people's history, and the Chinese perspective is just as important as the British one. If you're going to touch on this important piece of history, please, please, please make a point of telling both sides.

    • @combativeThinker
      @combativeThinker 5 лет назад +16

      Cool story. The Qing were arrogant fools and got what they deserved.

    • @elishaso
      @elishaso 4 года назад +1

      Thank you!

    • @r3fus32d13
      @r3fus32d13 4 года назад +29

      @@combativeThinker Why dont i past judgement on and ENTIRE dynasty in hindsight sitting on my couch justifying the colonization of a civilizational state in order to feed your tea addiction.
      Grow you own damn tea. You have the same mindset as the ppl back then.

    • @jerm70
      @jerm70 4 года назад +2

      @@r3fus32d13 Why would I care about the British doing gunboat diplomacy on the Chinese when if the shoe was on the other foot, they would of done the same? Lol.

    • @r3fus32d13
      @r3fus32d13 4 года назад +16

      @@jerm70 If you look at history🌍 for 3/4 of the last 3000 years, China was at the peak of civilization. Yet China didnt go around the world just for material gains. Chinese civ see all races as people, and selling drugs to kids is wrong no matter what background youre from

  • @The2000alec
    @The2000alec 5 лет назад +3

    Hi, I'm writing a history paper on the first opium war, and I found your videos extremely helpful. However, I was wondering if it would be possible for you to share the sources from where your information came from. Thank You!

  • @davinbudimanhalim2963
    @davinbudimanhalim2963 4 года назад +1

    Picture perfect tea pouring 03:14

  • @avidficreader5040
    @avidficreader5040 8 лет назад +9

    Nice to see a First Opium War Series. I included it as part of my history capstone paper, and its rather fascinating how much intricate interaction occurred to bring it about. Perhaps the most interesting part of it for me was the entire Pearl River Delta black market system which the British (and later American) traders broke into through shallow draft steam ships.

  • @LeoMidori
    @LeoMidori 8 лет назад +8

    I was dying of laughter with the meeting between George McCartney and the Emperor. XD

  • @monsteratwork1196
    @monsteratwork1196 6 лет назад

    amazing work guys

  • @degenerate3288
    @degenerate3288 6 лет назад +6

    Damn Walpole
    Screwing with things since 1792

  • @charcoalgordon2801
    @charcoalgordon2801 8 лет назад +4

    +Extra Credits I'm really surprised you guys are painting the British so favorably. The handling of the opium war by the british was some pretty villainous stuff. There are few times in history where the bad guys can be so easily spotted, but this is one of those times. Love your stuff and keep at it!!

  • @MariaNicolae
    @MariaNicolae 8 лет назад +15

    My history teacher glossed over so much. Thanks for being in detail.

  • @jimmyc.491
    @jimmyc.491 6 лет назад

    Watching this video for the first time. I can't help but wonder if this series is going to be my cup of tea.
    Oh yes, I just did.

  • @andrewhawkins8616
    @andrewhawkins8616 5 лет назад +4

    "Caution: Contains snark," is going to go on my letters from now on.

  • @spaceonisorceress4406
    @spaceonisorceress4406 8 лет назад +12

    So this whole thing started because Britain wanted to enable its massive Tea habit... Damn. That's incredible.
    ~sips Tea~

  • @oneofmanyjames-es1643
    @oneofmanyjames-es1643 8 лет назад +30

    Mmmm. Tea.

  • @korouiromcha8211
    @korouiromcha8211 5 лет назад

    ExtraCredits is one of the best.

  • @conagherdenson2194
    @conagherdenson2194 6 лет назад

    I just wandered into finding this one, I have never seen it before, merry Christmas to me

  • @SuperThatguy12
    @SuperThatguy12 8 лет назад +46

    I am so glad you are doing this part of history! I found it utterly fascinating when I learned about it. Its a major part of what would lead to the fall of the Chinese dynasty and send it on the path that its on today. Not many in the West (including British citizens) know about this part of their colonial history, so thank you.

  • @groynin
    @groynin 8 лет назад +5

    Already know that I will love the songs in this, the outro was amazing. The theme looks preety interesting too.

  • @golon7878
    @golon7878 6 лет назад

    Great story telling!

  • @lina18ns
    @lina18ns 5 месяцев назад +1

    So a tea addiction caused chaos to unfold 😂 i love history

  • @UseZapCannon
    @UseZapCannon 8 лет назад +236

    I once saw a British-produced documentary on the Opium Wars that went something like "Ah, we wanted to sell other European goods to China, but noooo, they DEMANDED(!) we give them Opium and nothing else, and went to war to get it!" Sorta freaked me out. You Brits in the comments don't honestly think you had the moral high ground, right?

    • @patrickobrien8301
      @patrickobrien8301 8 лет назад +111

      I'm pretty sure only idiots believe anyone has the moral high ground in war

    • @Draczar
      @Draczar 8 лет назад +54

      Unfortunately, as with any nation there are people here in the UK who refuse to accept that the British Empire was anything more than a beacon of civilisation and freedom from barbarism (Which to an extent it was, but by being pretty shitty itself at times) and even view talking about negative aspects of the Empire as the height of unpatriotic behaviour.

    • @Bluemilk92
      @Bluemilk92 8 лет назад +13

      You took the words right out my mouth. I was half way through saying something to the degree of "Moral highground in war? The very notion is... Bah!"

    • @sirrobertwalpole913
      @sirrobertwalpole913 8 лет назад +22

      "Hubris is the death kings."
      That pretty much sums up China during the 19th and early 20th centuries.

    • @NEWTBROS
      @NEWTBROS 8 лет назад +12

      Conservatives in the US can be the same way. It appears we have the same curse. ;)

  • @dragonkingofthestars
    @dragonkingofthestars 8 лет назад +23

    you ever get that, sinking feeling like you know something terrible is going to happen?

    • @Methren1
      @Methren1 8 лет назад +5

      every time when I think about brexxit or donald trump...

    • @crispybacon4240
      @crispybacon4240 8 лет назад +2

      I love this strange concept of "spoiling" centuries (sometimes even millennia) old history, brought about by extra history.

    • @Methren1
      @Methren1 8 лет назад

      ***** I put it this way because of "spoilers"

    • @araknidude
      @araknidude 8 лет назад +1

      I've got a bad feeling about this...

    • @chrisd4169
      @chrisd4169 8 лет назад

      i find it very interesting that the russian revolution happened in 1917 and the next election is in 2017

  • @chingading957
    @chingading957 3 года назад

    This is a great series

  • @AvioftheSand
    @AvioftheSand 5 лет назад

    I liked the Actraiser theme at the beginning. Reminds me of playing the SNES xD