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Regarding Ukraine, I hope you could do a one off episode about something the country’s history. I know these get a while to be made, it’s nice for people to support Ukraine in ways we can. Putin has claimed in his speeches that Ukraine has no history, and while the country isn’t like Poland or Finland with more separate history from Russia it’s not true that Ukraine has no history.
Great video, but I am a little disappointed that you did not say a strong political statement and did not hit hard on politicians who use health care only as a tool to gain or retain power. You only said that some myths are spread by politicians. You should have said directly that some extremist people invent and propagate medical myths to keep women subservient to men.
@@luisandrade2254 yeah but committing fraud is usually punished because you scam money or something. Like someone selling fake medicine or pretending to be a lawyer.
I think she was extraordinarily lucky that the infection didn’t kill her, given how many times she had exposed herself to pathogens, especially in an age before antibiotics and aseptic surgery. Regarding the quackery and misinformation, I’m feeling less and less surprised nowadays.
This is one of the stories where I really want a verbatim transcript of the conversation with a magistrate that must have taken place, along the lines of ''Well, we arrested her... Now what am I supposed to charge her with?''.
This is horrifying, if she was put up to it by someone this sounds like it was SA at least if not torture, and if she was doing it to herself poor Mary had some serious mental health issues that could not be addressed at the time
Yes, it was sa, her husband and MIL forced her into doing it then MIL and husband profited by selling tickets to creepy rich men to watch her birth these decaying animals her husband forced into her.
Random person: “So what’s the most traumatizing thing that’s happened to you?” Mary: “Oh. My mother-in-law shoved rabbit parts up my boo-ha to get back at some doctors.”
Really! It's pretty hard to shove anything in there. Ask any man. I think her mother was trying to help her daughter to get over the trauma, however ham-handedly.
I know this was supposed to be more of a "silly" episode, but given how damaging medical misinformation is, specifically with regards to pregnancy and women's bodies, I think a history of gynecology series (or something similar) would be very enlightening.
Coincidentally, Bram Stoker's brother was at the forefront of gynecological surgery at his time. Granted they still believed that hysterectomies could "cure" women of mental-unwellness, his practices should be taken with a grain of salt.
A RUclips channel especially one as deceiving and childish like this is not a place to get medical info talk to a doctor or follow real doctors online like Dr Mike
Throwing her in jail for 3 months seems like a bad decision, what she did was weird but she did prove that a lot of "medical professionals" at the time was just quacks. I am not sure if that was what she wanted to prove or if she just was a bit odd but neither of those things have ever been illegal (even if she probably would have been burned as a witch if she did this 100 years earlier). I am glad the judge let her go.
@@SetzerII That is true but they usually had some kind of reason throwing people in jail and showing up dead rabbits into your private parts might be the oddest reason to arrest someone I ever heard.
I didn't see any proof they were quacks. Science marches on maybe they had pretty cutting-edge theories with some evidence. It doesn't mean more concrete evidence won't come later and disprove an idea.
Maternal imprintation theory is one of those weird false but also kind of true in a weird way thing. Stress absolutely causes miscarriages, and being able to observe that would have strengthened the seemingly variacity of the theory. There's also preliminary research in many areas indicating that there are several traits that are determined not by genetics, but by interuterine enviroment. And we absolutely know about substances where consuming them during pregnancy will harm the fetus.
18th and 19th century magicians joined in lampooning this strange event by producing rabbits from empty boxes, their pockets and eventually from borrowed top hats. They continue producing bunnies because they are small, docile animals and easily fed and trained. (The bunnies, not the magicians)
I learned about this from an episode WTF 101. In that same episode, they covered Gregor MacGregor and the Poyais Scheme and George Psalmanazar's fictional Formosa. I highly encourage y'all to cover these in future episodes.
I know their theory are utterly ridiculous and impossible. But what if they just born an anthropomorphic seriously legit? I don't wherever science can prove itself now. Don't worry that just what if.
greedy, corrupt, and deceitful seems like politics of all ages, even those which are formed immediately after deposing regimes for being greedy, corrupt, and deceitful, (if not the intent of the founders, but for their naivety and a number of bad actors taking advantage of said naivety)
All right, now cover the Infantorium that was in Coney Island for like 40 years and showcased premature babies being cared for by technology that at the time seemed not just weird but (for some reason) unethical but that ended up being the stuff we used today. Also cared for by a team of nurses with better job perks than nurses have *today* -- and all this at no cost to the parents, because the spectacle provided enough income to run the place without bilking poor people desperate to save their doomed infants.
@@mckayleepugmire9947 Ideally, but they still sponsored a syphilis episode. Besides, one of the points of checkups is to get them to adulthood, and too many teen girls grow up almost as ignorant about their bodies as the men in this story.
Those beliefs are not so far off in my culture. One of our local news programs will often feature stories about strange pregnancies. Take the case of the baby born with one eye. When the mothers are asked about the cause of these pregnancies, their reasons will often be linked to maternal impression theory. Baby with one eye? Lady ate a lot of pineapples. (Turns out she was married to her second cousin). No one can blame them for these beliefs since they live in the rural parts of the country. They also cannot afford for medical care.
I think it's because this one is so narrow in focus and locks onto the life of this one woman and the media frenzy surrounding her. That's weirdly a lot more relatable because we only have one person to track, rather than an entire group like during epidemics and plagues.
Just hoping they don't go full Sam O'Nella and cover Tararre. History is long enough that there are all sorts of horrific tales that are completely and certifiably true.
@@BeaglzRok1 I don't think they will to be honest. They leave a pretty long gap in between topics like this and I've always thought that was deliberate. Plus I think the Patreon votes on topics anyway so it's likely a bit viewer-curated too.
I noticed the pictures of hair and heartburn when discussing pregnancy folktales, and that one’s actually probably true! There was at least one study done that showed a significant number of women who had heartburn during pregnancy (like, 85% or something like that) had children with hair, and the women who didn’t have heartburn usually had bald babies! The researchers think it’s because the hormones responsible for hair growth also happen to relax the muscles around the top of your stomach (whatever that sphincter is called), allowing stomach acid to go back up to it esophagus and cause heartburn! I looked it up when I was pregnant with my son because I had the WORST, CONSTANT heartburn. He was born with SO MUCH HAIR for a blonde baby. I can believe it’s true!
Not sure how to explain this without using forbidden words but Rabbits were also known as Coneys, also spelled Cunny. In the same way as the word Beaver is used, that word led to the word c*** and a longer c-word combining the word for rabbit with the latin word for tongue. So the dirty jokes were just writing themselves for the London press.
The closing commentary reminds me of when a lawmaker here in Idaho commented that doctors could have women swallow camera pills for gynecological exams.
It’s around 4 AM for me. Yall didn’t lie, the most horifying stuff gets recommend rn. First the reminder of what The Blue Whale challenge was, now this?! I’m scared :>
"She longed for rabbit...meat" No one of those esteemed doctors ever took the chimera option? They almost look like they don't know about the birds and the bees.
Reminds me how people in New Jersey believed the story of Mother Leeds giving birth to the Jersey Devil just because they didn’t know much about gynecology
As a bunny mama, I approve of this episode! If course I didn't personally give birth to Elvis, though I know when he was born (3/7/2017) and have watched rabbits give birth before--including stillborn bunnies, so sad.
I feel like this episode was chosen due to the new bans on abortions that states are passing, which if my theory is true then props to EC for doing so.
I watched the whole video through, and I still have no idea why. Also, how would you like to be the daughter she had after? Imagine the legacy she'd have to carry.
When the miscarriage was mentioned, I kind of knew it was probably a case of psychosis. Miscarriage and stillbirth are such severely traumatic situations, more than we realize, especially if you want to expand your family. I wonder if the mother-in-law thing was probably just a way of feeling less embarrassed about it, because coping methods can be very.. odd and unsafe, like this.
There are many symptoms of mental disorder. Inserting foreign objects, or faking pregnancies are among them. While conjecture, it is always interesting to see how human psychology responded to mind disorders throughout history.
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Regarding Ukraine, I hope you could do a one off episode about something the country’s history. I know these get a while to be made, it’s nice for people to support Ukraine in ways we can. Putin has claimed in his speeches that Ukraine has no history, and while the country isn’t like Poland or Finland with more separate history from Russia it’s not true that Ukraine has no history.
@@Mar1aHass4n if I understand correctly, a video can be uploaded in advance, but officially launch days later.
Great video, but I am a little disappointed that you did not say a strong political statement and did not hit hard on politicians who use health care only as a tool to gain or retain power. You only said that some myths are spread by politicians. You should have said directly that some extremist people invent and propagate medical myths to keep women subservient to men.
Not only surviving the infection, but still able to have actual human children. Talk about resilient...now THAT is the medical miracle here.
Yep
@@amy9424It truly was unexpectedly happy ending to this gruesome story.
I hate your profile so much i thought that was a bug on my screen😂
@@Cane4092 SAME LOL
"It's not illegal to pretend to give birth to rabbits"
Going to let that roll over in my mind for the rest of the day
Step 1: give birth to rabbit
******
Step 3: PROFIT!!!
I'm pretty sure fraud is illegal
@@luisandrade2254 yeah but committing fraud is usually punished because you scam money or something. Like someone selling fake medicine or pretending to be a lawyer.
Remember licking door knobs is illegal on other planets
Buying rabbits to viciously decapitate them is illegal though.
I think she was extraordinarily lucky that the infection didn’t kill her, given how many times she had exposed herself to pathogens, especially in an age before antibiotics and aseptic surgery. Regarding the quackery and misinformation, I’m feeling less and less surprised nowadays.
As we know that the woman's womb has a lot of anti bacteria and germ killers, or cell killers.
Some can have more and have difficult getting pregnant.
@@Vertutame That explains how she was able to have a kid only a year afterwars
This is one of the stories where I really want a verbatim transcript of the conversation with a magistrate that must have taken place, along the lines of ''Well, we arrested her... Now what am I supposed to charge her with?''.
Early gynecology: “Here there be dragons.”
disturbingly accurate
@@SavageGreywolf yea 😳
Scp
Hic sunt dracones
Now I remembered a sad story
This is horrifying, if she was put up to it by someone this sounds like it was SA at least if not torture, and if she was doing it to herself poor Mary had some serious mental health issues that could not be addressed at the time
Yes, it was sa, her husband and MIL forced her into doing it then MIL and husband profited by selling tickets to creepy rich men to watch her birth these decaying animals her husband forced into her.
In Sweden we kind of had the same story. A woman claimed that she birthed prophetic eggs. She painted them and did what Mary did.
The lengths some people will go for attention.
Easter would never be the same after that.
That sounds way easier and safer.
wouldn’t- wouldn’t they break??
Name?
Random person: “So what’s the most traumatizing thing that’s happened to you?”
Mary: “Oh. My mother-in-law shoved rabbit parts up my boo-ha to get back at some doctors.”
Really!
It's pretty hard to shove anything in there. Ask any man.
I think her mother was trying to help her daughter to get over the trauma, however ham-handedly.
@ginnyjollykidd Are you kidding me.
"the woman that gave birt hto rabbits"
"south east england..."
sounds about right
Haha 🤣
Is the term "Normal for Norfolk" still a thing?
Wow. Surprised extra credits would touch this place in history lol
Imagine being a member of her family and hearing this 🤢
@@anthonyostolaza8074 This is Jeff -> 🐰
Jeff heard about this story and now his species is being ridiculed about *HIM* having time with Toft.
IkR?!?
Seems pretty timely to me.
I know this was supposed to be more of a "silly" episode, but given how damaging medical misinformation is, specifically with regards to pregnancy and women's bodies, I think a history of gynecology series (or something similar) would be very enlightening.
Coincidentally, Bram Stoker's brother was at the forefront of gynecological surgery at his time. Granted they still believed that hysterectomies could "cure" women of mental-unwellness, his practices should be taken with a grain of salt.
I completely agree. I find that subject fascinating and it's sad how it's undertalked.
A RUclips channel especially one as deceiving and childish like this is not a place to get medical info talk to a doctor or follow real doctors online like Dr Mike
@@luisandrade2254 It's not medical info, it's about the history of medicine.
Also depressing
Throwing her in jail for 3 months seems like a bad decision, what she did was weird but she did prove that a lot of "medical professionals" at the time was just quacks. I am not sure if that was what she wanted to prove or if she just was a bit odd but neither of those things have ever been illegal (even if she probably would have been burned as a witch if she did this 100 years earlier).
I am glad the judge let her go.
It's a relatively new thing to have a charge ready. Tossing someone in without bail and going from there isn't unusual for the time, if I recall.
@@SetzerII That is true but they usually had some kind of reason throwing people in jail and showing up dead rabbits into your private parts might be the oddest reason to arrest someone I ever heard.
I didn't see any proof they were quacks. Science marches on maybe they had pretty cutting-edge theories with some evidence. It doesn't mean more concrete evidence won't come later and disprove an idea.
Maternal imprintation theory is one of those weird false but also kind of true in a weird way thing. Stress absolutely causes miscarriages, and being able to observe that would have strengthened the seemingly variacity of the theory. There's also preliminary research in many areas indicating that there are several traits that are determined not by genetics, but by interuterine enviroment. And we absolutely know about substances where consuming them during pregnancy will harm the fetus.
Also epigenetics.
It's also the best explanation for why babies resemble their fathers until you discover genetics.
18th and 19th century magicians joined in lampooning this strange event by producing rabbits from empty boxes, their pockets and eventually from borrowed top hats. They continue producing bunnies because they are small, docile animals and easily fed and trained. (The bunnies, not the magicians)
so there when magicain pulling rabbits out of an hat come from! thank you
So that's why people pull rabbits out of hats for a magic trick. Geez, I did NOT expect that origin story.
and now you know the other half of the story.
I guess Mary was a trend setter
Can confirm. Do not try to domesticate magicians.
I learned about this from an episode WTF 101. In that same episode, they covered Gregor MacGregor and the Poyais Scheme and George Psalmanazar's fictional Formosa. I highly encourage y'all to cover these in future episodes.
Me too! I loved that show
Hope for season 2
That's like 3 episodes of the dollop right there!
Same
I know their theory are utterly ridiculous and impossible. But what if they just born an anthropomorphic seriously legit? I don't wherever science can prove itself now. Don't worry that just what if.
Mary Toft: *gives birth to rabbits*
Restaurants: Rabbit special cancelled. You get goose basted with sherry instead.
I'm glad Mary got something of a happy ending, seems like a messy and sad situation all around. Shoving animal parts up into your body over and over.
"Mother of Rabbits" doesn't quite have the same ring as "Mother of Dragons".
Unless it was the Killer Rabbit of Caerrbannog!
Walpole fact: The case was cited by Robert Walpole's opponents as symbolising the age, which they perceived as greedy, corrupt and deceitful.
greedy, corrupt, and deceitful seems like politics of all ages, even those which are formed immediately after deposing regimes for being greedy, corrupt, and deceitful, (if not the intent of the founders, but for their naivety and a number of bad actors taking advantage of said naivety)
All right, now cover the Infantorium that was in Coney Island for like 40 years and showcased premature babies being cared for by technology that at the time seemed not just weird but (for some reason) unethical but that ended up being the stuff we used today.
Also cared for by a team of nurses with better job perks than nurses have *today* -- and all this at no cost to the parents, because the spectacle provided enough income to run the place without bilking poor people desperate to save their doomed infants.
thats pretty nifty haha
I'm disappointed that this episode is not sponsored by the Child and Teen Checkups Program of Minnesota.
Ideally, most patients eligible for Child and Teen Checkups aren't giving birth
@@mckayleepugmire9947 Ideally, but they still sponsored a syphilis episode. Besides, one of the points of checkups is to get them to adulthood, and too many teen girls grow up almost as ignorant about their bodies as the men in this story.
@@erraticonteuse Fair.
My mind has no idea how to feel after watching this. I'm glad Mary got a happy ending in the long run, though. Great video as always!
Never did I ever think I would get to see Trevor Noah in any of the episodes of this channel... yet there he is.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And an 18th century Trevor Noah at that!
And still unable to tell an actual joke that isn't just naked antiwhitism.
@@foristrothbert568 You must be a sad person.
@@foristrothbert568 Like what do you even mean, man?
Those beliefs are not so far off in my culture. One of our local news programs will often feature stories about strange pregnancies. Take the case of the baby born with one eye. When the mothers are asked about the cause of these pregnancies, their reasons will often be linked to maternal impression theory. Baby with one eye? Lady ate a lot of pineapples. (Turns out she was married to her second cousin). No one can blame them for these beliefs since they live in the rural parts of the country. They also cannot afford for medical care.
I think this was the most horrifying EC video i have watched. Yes, i'm counting the videos about plagues and epidemies too.
It's certainly in competition with the dentistry videos.
I think it's because this one is so narrow in focus and locks onto the life of this one woman and the media frenzy surrounding her. That's weirdly a lot more relatable because we only have one person to track, rather than an entire group like during epidemics and plagues.
Just hoping they don't go full Sam O'Nella and cover Tararre. History is long enough that there are all sorts of horrific tales that are completely and certifiably true.
@@BeaglzRok1 I don't think they will to be honest. They leave a pretty long gap in between topics like this and I've always thought that was deliberate. Plus I think the Patreon votes on topics anyway so it's likely a bit viewer-curated too.
This and the Pellagra one too
I noticed the pictures of hair and heartburn when discussing pregnancy folktales, and that one’s actually probably true! There was at least one study done that showed a significant number of women who had heartburn during pregnancy (like, 85% or something like that) had children with hair, and the women who didn’t have heartburn usually had bald babies! The researchers think it’s because the hormones responsible for hair growth also happen to relax the muscles around the top of your stomach (whatever that sphincter is called), allowing stomach acid to go back up to it esophagus and cause heartburn! I looked it up when I was pregnant with my son because I had the WORST, CONSTANT heartburn. He was born with SO MUCH HAIR for a blonde baby. I can believe it’s true!
Not gonna lie, the start of this sounds like some kind of horror story
She just wanted to gain money as a freak celebrity. Like Octomom.
Not sure how to explain this without using forbidden words but Rabbits were also known as Coneys, also spelled Cunny. In the same way as the word Beaver is used, that word led to the word c*** and a longer c-word combining the word for rabbit with the latin word for tongue. So the dirty jokes were just writing themselves for the London press.
Is that where the word comes from. Interesting. Information I did not know I needed.
The closing commentary reminds me of when a lawmaker here in Idaho commented that doctors could have women swallow camera pills for gynecological exams.
Let me guess... their degree was in Law?...
This channel has been my favorite and has made history my favorite subject😍 thank you!!
"Mary went home and a year later, gave birth to a baby girl." So .... Did she name the girl... Bunny? 😁😁😁
Fun fact: Stuart Little is supposed to be a sooterkin!
Yeah, they changed him to a mouse in the movie because it would be cuter...and just had him be adopted by a human family from an orphanage.
I guess you could say:
She had a bun in the oven! (Ok I'll stop now)
Sir I'm going to need you to leave the premises
@@jcl4370 I guess you are hopping mad
YEAHHH!
This way a very "hare" tale.
It's actually pretty funny. But please stop.
It’s around 4 AM for me. Yall didn’t lie, the most horifying stuff gets recommend rn. First the reminder of what The Blue Whale challenge was, now this?! I’m scared :>
"She longed for rabbit...meat"
No one of those esteemed doctors ever took the chimera option?
They almost look like they don't know about the birds and the bees.
(insert donkey kong staring at you meme here)
The world has made me dirty
Well it’s not like THAT would be possible either.
That was, without question, one of the WILDEST THINGS I have ever heard.
"The world of Mary Toft may not be as far in the rear view of history as we'd like to think it is."
June 2022: "Yeah... about that..."
This is one of the weirdest story I've ever heard in my 20 years experience of living
But the DENTIST Episode gets censored??!? Insanity.
the truth is stranger than fiction no one could have come up with this so thanks for educating us once again
I forget how i found out about this. A horror game, a creepypasta, idk. But like. Its def a story you dont forget
This must be the craziest episode ever
Thank you for the video.
Thank you for unapologetically covering stuff like this
This is going to put me on a watch list
LMBO
Yes. As my dad once said, "It's not illegal to be stupid."
Grandma told me this is how my aunts, uncles, and parents were born
This story is insane
Indeed; April 1 would have been a better release date.
5:30 never thought I see a version. Of Noah Daily show in extra credits
Loved the reference to Trevor Noah! Also that some modern pregnancy myths come from lawmakers. Lawd have mercy on us!
OMG I didnt know you were covering this story. Its not what I was looking for but its just what I need.
2:45 yah, sounds closer to extra mythology
Never thought we would cover this subject😂
Reminds me how people in New Jersey believed the story of Mother Leeds giving birth to the Jersey Devil just because they didn’t know much about gynecology
Imagine this being your wife
"Mary! Who have you been sleeping with?"
5:27 wait! Is that Trevor Noah!? 🤔
The Extra History art style with blue eyes is kinda cursed, actually
If she would pull THAT kind of stunt for attention back in the day, I wonder what kind of crazy things she'd do today to get people to notice her.
People are weird, they... do... things...
True dat
@Leo the Anglo-Filipino I’m seeing you everywhere I go
As a bunny mama, I approve of this episode! If course I didn't personally give birth to Elvis, though I know when he was born (3/7/2017) and have watched rabbits give birth before--including stillborn bunnies, so sad.
I was literally just reading about her in Madison's biography.
i learned about this from sawbones! its also titled "the woman who gave birth to rabbits"
I feel like this episode was chosen due to the new bans on abortions that states are passing, which if my theory is true then props to EC for doing so.
I really shouldn't have watched this while eating
Maybe this is why rabbits were of the menu in the restaurants.
Not exactly what I thought I'd listen to when I woke up today...
Love this episode of the dollop!
I love the WTF 101 bit on her.
Miscarriages are very traumatic. And we should respect those who have had them. Let us be kind.
I’d be interested in seeing a collab between these guys and Mama Doctor Jones all of the sudden…
I watched the whole video through, and I still have no idea why.
Also, how would you like to be the daughter she had after? Imagine the legacy she'd have to carry.
Coming to cinemas this autumn: Mary Toft - Womb Trader!
how do you join the extra credit team? i love all these vids
When the miscarriage was mentioned, I kind of knew it was probably a case of psychosis. Miscarriage and stillbirth are such severely traumatic situations, more than we realize, especially if you want to expand your family. I wonder if the mother-in-law thing was probably just a way of feeling less embarrassed about it, because coping methods can be very.. odd and unsafe, like this.
How on earth did I just realize they had 1 eye brow
Hey finally a perfect representation of what my dreams are like
Serious missed opportunity to post this on Easter 😂
There are many symptoms of mental disorder. Inserting foreign objects, or faking pregnancies are among them. While conjecture, it is always interesting to see how human psychology responded to mind disorders throughout history.
*Me at that 5 minute mark* NO. She was NOT butchering rabbits and shoving them up her snatch. SHE. WAS. NOT.
I learnt about this story in a more literal form in a Mr Increndible Uncanny
her giving birth to those wabbits is, uh, intentional
They put them inside her actual uterus?! How do you not die from massive infection? 😮
Cowboy shock... Sounds like a good anime with a nice game adaptation...
Sounds.... Painful 😬
O o f
PANR has tuned in.
Shame we never got a JG Ballard novel about this.
Thank you....
3:59 yeah, definitely that
What a very interesting intro
In parts? Oh god...she was shoving them up there wasn't she?
......so I thought I Was ready to whatever was gone happen...
BUT what the ..... I dont know did I just hear....
I'm gone have nightmares over this
It's sad to think that see was put into this peer pressure
I couldn't hear the proper noun after the dutch black mice. Does anyone know the spelling of that? Want to search a bit more about it.
I have many questions and they all are... How and WHY
this was the best video choice for fries and beer
I heard about this story from the RUclipsr, “Casual Geographic.”
What the hell ?! Dude, why do we need to know that? We will have nightmares at night!
Could ya'll do swiss history please
I could expect this as a tabloid from Florida.
So happy this somehow had a good ending
"the world of Mary Toft may not be as far in the rear view of history as we'd like to think it is." Understatement of the century.