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The Cheeseburger saved her life because as the Chef said he’d not desired to cook for anyone in a long time, but in his home she saw that he used to cook burgers for a fast food place and he was happy. Her asking him to make it for her rekindled some of that joy he once felt before, essentially, bringing back his passion even for a brief moment.
I didn't expect y'all to watch this film. Triangle of Sadness, The Menu, Knives Out: Glass Onion, and The White Lotus were released in 2022 and featured stories about rich people, on boats, in exotic locations, engaging in hedonistic pleasures, and then contending with death.
Death was on the menu and Margot sent his food back, then requested a cheese burger, which is something that isn't on the menu. Margot also reminded him of his love for cooking, even for just a short moment.
I love that Margot is a Final Girl who survives not simply because she "outsmarts" the killer, but more because she figures out what Chef really wants (to feel the joy of cooking a simple meal for an appreciative customer) and then gives that to him. She is, after all, in a profession that's all about giving people what they secretly want. And because of her giving that gift, Chef is willing to play along and let her go as a way of thanking her. :)
THANK YOU! Steven was enjoying his thought of a juicy ass cheeseburger with cheddar while the chef was savoring that lost pure feeling, his gift from Margot/Erin.
I believe Margot might still die. They talk about the dry aged beef being lethal if aged just one day longer. Odd thing to include since there’s no beef on the menu. The only beef consumed is Margot’s burger
@@andyh7777 I'm pretty sure they are just doing the usual tour to not arouse suspicions at that time, and just have a fully stocked kitchen for future service even though it's the last night. After all, lamb wasn't on The Menu, but it was still available for Tyler's BS... Also, pretty sure that heavily dry aged wouldn't have that traditional juicy flavor and texture she asked for.
There's something really sinister about Tyler showing up to the dinner knowing people would die, but still thinking he was the exception out of everyone, but it's also cathartic knowing Margo was the real standout.
Oh see, I don't think he assumed he was the exception at all. I think he knew that he would die along with everyone else, but because he's such a psychotic fanboy he was actually FINE with that fact - so long as he got to taste Chef's food and be part of such an "exclusive" experience. That also explains why he was savoring every dish, every word, and every moment: because he was viewing the whole evening as his final perfect night on earth.
I love that you can watch the movie a second time and pick up on lots of details that you miss on the first watch. Like when Tyler is telling Erin what to do throughout the movie, even starting by telling her not to smoke, you realize she is obeying his requests because it is part of her job and not because they are in a relationship like you thought they were on the first viewing.
My favourite one is when the fraud bros are like "We'll have this place closed by the morning" and Elsa says "Oh no, that won't be necessary." That is SUCH a weird way to respond to that kind of threat... unless you already know what's going to happen to the restaurant by the end of the meal, lol.
And how when Elsa first checks everyone in and Tyler pauses after saying "this is Miss" when introducing Margot because he probably didn't get her last name
Fun fact: On the Dead Meat podcast, they mentioned that Daniel Radcliffe was supposed to play the actor character, and he was going to play himself. He had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts, so Jon Leguizamo stepped in instead. (Who did a great job anyways, but unfortunately he didn't play himself.)
it seems there's way more than that tho, every plate is also an statement (yeah that might sound like Tyler but it's true), that's why the movie breaks down into courses. it talks about art, toxicity, social classes, making a show out of tragedies and art coming from it, pretentious and narcissist people.
As a service worker myself, I second this comment. after 7 years of working back-to-back service jobs, I now hate customers and have fantasized about making "The Mess" more times than I've got fingers or toes to count on. and the kicker, Every time I've told my bosses that I wanted to "make the mess" they have fired me for it.
It took me a couple of rewatches to realise that the female sous chef stabbed the chef in the thigh with scissors, which is exactly what he said he did to his dad, signifying that he eventually realised he became his father; a person who abuses his power.
The only picture of chef smiling (actually grinning with joy) was his employee of the month photo so Margo knew that was when he actually enjoyed cooking and I get it; I remember working at a diner as a seventeen year old when you worked your shift and everyone enjoyed what you made and then you went out after your shift and hung out with your friends and it was fun. No food critics, foodies, money guys who want to change your food just a good time and camaraderie with the staff. Back when life was simple. So when I see chef cook his cheeseburger with care and enthusiasm I know exactly how he feels 😊
she also outsmarts him with the "food to go" bit, but you can clearly see the chef knows she's doing this, but he lets her, I think he almost admires that sh'es figured out a way to escape
Yeah he gives her a way out by maintaining the relationship between the chef and a satisfied customer that genuinely appreciates the food he's prepared. No pretension, deconstruction of the dish, hypercritical observation or fawning just:"now that's a cheeseburger". The best he's probably felt cooking in a long time
I just realized Margot gets bread, by ordering a cheeseburger. But Margot, unlike the others, is a common man, due to her socio-economic status. So not only did she get something simple like a cheeseburger, she got it on a bun.
Tyler's Bullshit is one of the best scenes of 2022. So satisfyingly hard to watch. Also burst out laughing in the theater when he told Leguizamo why he was dying. What a brilliant film.
Thats the perfect way to put isn’t it, “Satisfyingly hard to watch”. Cause it makes you feel so BAD for him and yet you also feel he wholly deserves it. I think i might’ve only felt this emotion less than a handful of times, its difficult to evoke
@@zombiesingularity agreed, it wasn’t just that she reminded him of where he fell in love with cooking but that she wasn’t supposed to be there in the first place and she too was a member of the service industry.
The best thing about Slowik's statement bread is that it comes back around when Margot orders a cheeseburger. It symbolically differentiated Margot as a commoner (who Slowik said bread is meant for), and he allowed her to leave because she ultimately is not a part of the elitist snobs who devour his art with no appreciation.
She survives because she finally gave him back his joy: the art of making someone happy, and the suspense he got from hoping she loved it. Also, he knew she was not intended to be in that dinner party and didn't "deserve" to be there.
I love how Nikki picked at the VERY BEGINNING what the movie was really shining a light on. Just the pretentious foodie culture, and satirizing the hell out of it.
As someone who has worked in restaurants from fine dining to corporate chains I loved this movie. It was a great take on how you will do “anything” in the kitchen so The Menu is the best it can be. Love how this took it to a culty extreme willing to die for it!
Seriously with always saying yes chef, no chef, sorry chef. It's interesting how many different perspectives there are for the audience depending if you've worked in a restaurant or in customer service or not
There's a behind the scenes making of The Menu that shows how impressive this film really is. From the fact that many of the staff are actual professional cooks and the consultant they brought in to do the food visuals is a high rated chef.
As someone who has had the good fortune of traveling to Italy over a dozen times (on business), Olive Garden is barely food, let alone Italian food 😂🤣😂🤣
@kev121 that's kinda what makes me hate that fancy food of weddings or restaurants. I remember many I've gone where they presented a whole lot of food with combinations that weren't really tasty, just to look good, i barely finished those plates, but my favorite was when i was 13 and sat in the kids table, and we had chicken nuggets and fries
The most horrific part of the movie is when they said the people would be getting NO bread! I actually said out loud...NOOOOOOO! I love bread so much. I am with Steven, I could eat bread every day.
It comes back to chef quoting Dr King 'freedom is never voluntary given by the oppressor it must be demanded.' She demanded a burger and by asking 'to take it to go' she in a way demanded her freedom and that's why I think he let her go
Not only did she play the chefs feelings & get him to enjoy cooking a meal again (he knew exactly what she was doing) but she gave him a storyline that allowed her to live that he could accept. So well acted.
She was the only one there who wasn’t part of the snobby demographic that ruined cooking for him….he actually got to enjoy cooking something one last time….letting her go was a sign of gratitude
Just wanna point out the humor in Anya Taylor-Joy, an actress with big, gorgeous eyes, saying the line, "I think my eyes were a little bigger than my stomach."
I loved the exchange between Chef and the actor's plus one. You were privileged enough to have your schooling at Brown paid without needing student loans, you're dying. I can't be angry with him. The service industry, especially when dealing with unappreciative and self-entitled A-holes, drains your soul. I 100% understand why he did it. I personally could never take a life much less a room full of them, but I get it.
Not only did she come from a rich background and while getting into one of the best schools, making more money than most ever would but STILL chose to steal from her boss like a common thief. Like REALLY! Talk about the AUDACITY! At first, I thought that it was kind of harsh but looked at it again and understood what Chef was saying.
@@rodgill9376 EXACTLY....when she confessed to stealing I was like OOOP then when it turned out she was ALREADY LOADED i was like "OH HELLLL NAH"....greed is a sickness truly
The only picture that Chef was happy in was when he was cooking burgers at the diner as a young man. Margot saw this and used it to make him feel the joy of cooking again. Because of this kindness she gave to him he let her live.
Death was on the menu and Margot sent his food back, then requested a cheese burger, which is something that isn't on the menu. Margot also reminded him of his love for cooking, even for just a short moment.
He was smiling when he made the burger, she made him feel the joy of cooking again, they probably missed that detail because of all the talking they did during that scene...
@@NikkiStevenReact That's my favourite kind! When Margot said "A real cheese burger. Not some fancy deconstructed avant bullshit." I actually yelled "YES!!!" out loud. She is my HERO. 👏👏👏👏🥳
While not as horrible as some of the others, Slowik chose the actor because he'd lost his passion for his art and was just phoning it in like him. The actor's assistant was chosen because of her privilege (Ivy League school with no student loans, mother getting her a cushy corporate job, etc.) and entitlement (she was stealing money). They were both complicit "takers" contributing in some way to Slowik's disillusionment with his work and life.
@@ragtimeraver agree about both of them but also the actor knew the movie would be bad and didn’t care. To some people that money and time is precious.
@@ragtimeraver …money and time being that of the movie goer but yea, to add to what you said about his passion, it really fits into the theme of class entitlement and being a taker.
I like that they made sure to include some people like that so the audience wouldn't be able to forget that Chef Slowik is a murderer who has lost his damned mind. It's easy to look at the finance bros committing fraud and the freaky old man who hired Margo before and Tyler who hired Margo knowing she would die, and think maybe they deserve this. I think the absurdity of the chef being like "I'm killing you for taking a part in a bad movie" is a good reminder that no, actually, the chef is not doing the "right thing" here. He may have happened to target some shitty people, but his motivations are still 100% psychotic.
It actually is a comment on why Slovik is a monster in all senses, He's the entitled artist who thinks his art is so great he gets to pass judgement on others art, He views the bad actors art as unappealing and therefore worthy of death. But the thing is art is subjective.
Fun Fact: Some fancy restaurants refuse to provide a To go bag since taking the food to go in a “doggy bag” is below them. Restaurant employee (with contempt) “We are an upscale restaurant and do not have doggy bags or allow guests to take food to go." Me: “Since I paid for the food I will decide what to do with it and I'll put the leftovers in my purse if you don't give me a To go box...“ Long story short they brought me to go box. So when Margot ordered the cheeseburger and also asked for the food to go I cheered because those symbols of being a common person helped show she was not like the other guests! 😎🎉
I love how much of a satire it is to Influencer culture. The relationship a content creator has with its public, sponsors, and so forth. It was such a great movie and I agree about the tensión building and building. Lol, it makes sense once you get to the end of the menu. Glad ya’ll reacted to this. Love it!
The cheeseburger scene was basically like Ratatouille except the chef was reminded of his past when happy by cooking instead of eating. Because Erin made him feel that way, he decided she could live.
What I loved about this movie is that doesn't fit easily into a genre. It is suspense, black comedy, horror, all rolled into one. It wasn't what I expected, but it was one of my favorite movies of 2022.
The main thing was that Chef tells "Margot" that he lost the joy of cooking, which he devoted his life to. He told her how he had stopped enjoying serving people. He also makes it clear he had planned everything out to take his revenge on the people who destroyed the thing he cared about. Margot, of course, was not supposed to be there. When he made her the cheeseburger, he actually was happy to cook something that made another person happy. You can see the genuine happiness... the love he has for cooking as he makes it and serves it. This is why he lets her go.
As a food service worker it was nice too see the guest be put in their place. Its wild how rude people are when the relationship is "server" and the one being "served"
As somebody who never worked in food service, I'Ve always proposed that every food service worker should be allowed to punch one (1) customer per week for mental health.
One thing I truly love about this film is that the Chef isn't some "I'm superior and you must all suffer" kind of villain. He holds himself as guilty as well. They all must die. Ralph Fiennes is such a damn good actor. The simple pleasure and joy in his face making that Cheeseburger is so real. Also, that burger looks fucking delicious. This movie is wild, and just so damn good for how off it keeps throwing you. It is very Midsommar feeling. The message about keeping the love for what you do, not losing yourself to other's demands... it's surprisingly deep underneath the anxiety ridden bizzare nature of it all. He let Margot go because she was a giver. She gave him the gift of enjoying making food for someone again. She saw the photo of him working a burger stand in his house. And she dared him to make a normal plain cheeseburger. And it brought the smile back. The joy. She paid for it, without expecting it to be comped (critics). She thanked him. She gets to live. In fairness, it was only her that could do this. He didn't know where to put her, with the takers or the givers, and she wasn't part of the original plan, so when she proved to be a giver, he let her go.
My friends and I are grad students who could only attend school through student loans, we all laughed so hard at the "What school did you go to?" "Brown" "Student loans?" "..no" "I'm sorry, you're dying" bit
I always feel happy watch THE turning point for the course which is The Mess. But also Tyler constantly disrespecting Margot and her intelligence bc she's hired, urks me everytime. Left hand slap ready to go.
I like the message of the movie. No matter how fancy you (think you) are, there is always some joy to be found in basic things: a cheeseburger, a blockbuster movie, an adventure novel, a catchy song. And every creator worth their fame knows this: sometimes you just want to do something that's simply enjoyable, without pretense, without overthinking every detail, without obnoxious criticism. Enjoy the little things, no more, no less. Granted, in this case the one providing the metaphor still is a sociopathic murderer, but the overall moral stands.
one question that popped into my head after watching this.... ....what was the crime of _the other girl?_ the one that broke up with Tyler. because, everyone invited to this dinner was guilty of something, and the tortillas were telling them that to their faces. but Margo/Erin wasn't supposed to be here! what did she get?
I enjoyed places like Olive Garden and Applebee's when I was little. But it's just hard for me to take seriously as an adult, because I know it's basically microwaved food. No judgement for people who legit like it, but I just can't do it anymore.
There are movies you watch and enjoy, and then movies that take up a permanent residence in your head. This one is in my head like The Matrix and A New Hope
Understandable why chef would release Erin (Margot); he first saw her as a kindred spirit (a provider) and then she asked him to make something that made him feel happy once upon a time, a regular well-made cheeseburger. It breathed life into him even for just that moment so to thank her for letting him experience it one last time, he granted her freedom. PS: After watching the film, I got hungry so I ordered a burger with all the works and extra pickles 😂
This was the most surprising movie of 2022 for me. A lot of movies are weird just for the sake of being weird. This one was weird in a good way. Very unique. Great reaction y'all
I’m so glad you guys reacted to this. This is my favorite movie of the year. It’s such a good breakdown of culture and the process of art in general. Each course is a different part of that process. The angel investors holding artists captive financially, the fact that artists think they need to create out of a place of pain and trauma (thigh story), the broken artist that gets engulfed by his work (The Mess), the people who think they can do the artists’ job better than them but don’t have the ability (Tyler). And I think it works the other way too. Artists become way too sensitive when critiqued poorly. Look, I know I feel and may look like Tyler from the movie with this very pretentious analysis but I think it was done on purpose and I find beauty in that
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Margot lived (in my opinion) because she firstly, wasn't part of the original plan. She was n outlier. On top of that she was able to connect a bit with chef as both were "Service workers" and lastly, she was able to request a dish that brought that spark back in Chef. Something he liked to cook and serve.
So I actually attended a somewhat similar dinner (prix fix with a lot of the food grown by restaurant staff and things like that, but obviously not $1250 a person or with a chef that had lost his damn mind, lol). It was actually SUPER worth. My husband and I went away for our anniversary and spent a weekend in this little cottage resort owned and run by two chefs. They held a dinner every night, like... $50 a person or something, but only available to people who were staying at the resort. It had a set menu, but you could tell them about your food preferences or dietary restrictions and they'd just make sure the menu worked within those limitations. It was kinda similar to Hawthorne in that the resort had a greenhouse on the property where they grew most of the vegetables they used, and there was a little local farm next door where they got their eggs and dairy products. A lot of the meats were locally caught fish. The chefs came out as each course was served (I think there were three or four?) to talk a little about the dish, what was in it, who caught the fish, stuff like that. The differences were mostly in that it wasn't on an island, it was only 3 courses instead of however many this has, and the "we produce it locally" aspect wasn't as intense - like, yes, they grew all the veggies in the greenhouse, but they weren't raising their own cows and they bought their staples like flour and sugar. That and they served us actual food instead of concepts, lol. Anyway, it was exactly as fun and awesome as you'd think, and I highly, highly, highly recommend doing something like that. It was probably the best food I've had in my whole life.
I love that you all bought in early, while increasingly feeling the ominous intensity. My wife and I watched. Our reactions were inline with yours. Thoroughly enjoyed.
Many years ago I had a super fancy meal in London very much like this one, and yes it cost a LOT - over a thousand pounds. It was amazing flavors and textures and presentation, and I'm glad I did it one time. But it's not my kinda thing. There are definitely people who go to these restaurants to say they went as a brag, not to enjoy the food. With all of that said, I went to see this movie in the theater a few weeks ago knowing nothing about it. I thought it was an absolute blast. Brilliantly done, and the tension does ramp up and up without losing sight of the satire. Excellent.
When Steven said how he wouldn't do well here because he'd be the one to ask for a replacement, as someone who already saw this movie I said "asking for a replacement would probably save your life, man". 🤣🤣🤣 It was like ordering that cheeseburger was what got the chef to calm down some because it brought him back to a time where he was truly happy and still enjoyed cooking. She had to have picked that up from seeing that younger picture of him cooking a burger and seeing the genuine smile on his face. And she was the only one to stand her ground, put up a fight, and call out just how cold and loveless the food he was serving was. And so he spared her, while the others died not just because they've done bad things but because they DIDN'T fight back like she did. They didn't even have the guts to voice their real opinions of the chef's cooking like she did. She came from a place of service, having to work and fight in order to make it. While the others were mostly spineless worms who used people or abused whatever power they had, and probably had things handed to them for a long time making them helpless in such a crazy situation. The cold part is that even the chef said they could've made it had they all put up a fight, but only one guest there seemed to have any fight in them. And that's the one who got away.
She saw he won an award when he was young for best burger and there is a picture of him smiling. She asked for the cheeseburger to give him what he desperately wants, to cook something with the love that got him into cooking and have that love appreciated by someone. That’s why he let her go.
She saw the photo in his home of his very first job serving cheeseburgers. This is what began his culinary career and it brought him back to that feeling of first serving someone. This whole movie was more about fine dining and a statement on the “givers” and “takers” in life. That the givers will never get the fulfillment they deserve the more they succeed because people take more and more from you and are never satisfied.
the movie was just beautiful made... and the food was really "Chef's Table" quality.. They made the whole setup like something was off from the start but you didnt really know what.. The suspense just builds and builds and I loved how Margot decided to fight back at the end and use the Chef's love of cooking when he first started as a way to get out of the situation by appealing to him to get a To Go.. There would not have been any other way to get out of her predicament
Nice to see you guys react to this; I saw it a few weeks ago it was probably my 2nd favorite movie of the year, after Everything, Everywhere, All At Once
I love this movie it’s shows how the highest end has become about trying to please those who can’t be pleased, the customer doesn’t get a satisfactory meal & the chefs get no joy from cooking it. The cheeseburger represents him wanting to cook for someone again, he finally rediscovers his love at the end & let’s her live. You see everything wrong with the industry yet at the end both chef & customer get what they want
If you notice at the chef house, margot saw a picture of younger chef cooking a burger, it was his happiest days before he became famous and had to keep fillling up ppl's demand. And that's what she gave to him at the end, his happiest day and best dish without all those artificial looking food, just a simple delish burger.
This film is ORIGINAL, originality, something which is sadly missing from even the most lauded Hollywood efforts is abundant here! I love this film! By the way, my favorite food is a cheeseburger!
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The Cheeseburger saved her life because as the Chef said he’d not desired to cook for anyone in a long time, but in his home she saw that he used to cook burgers for a fast food place and he was happy. Her asking him to make it for her rekindled some of that joy he once felt before, essentially, bringing back his passion even for a brief moment.
I didn't expect y'all to watch this film. Triangle of Sadness, The Menu, Knives Out: Glass Onion, and The White Lotus were released in 2022 and featured stories about rich people, on boats, in exotic locations, engaging in hedonistic pleasures, and then contending with death.
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Death was on the menu and Margot sent his food back, then requested a cheese burger, which is something that isn't on the menu.
Margot also reminded him of his love for cooking, even for just a short moment.
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I love that Margot is a Final Girl who survives not simply because she "outsmarts" the killer, but more because she figures out what Chef really wants (to feel the joy of cooking a simple meal for an appreciative customer) and then gives that to him. She is, after all, in a profession that's all about giving people what they secretly want. And because of her giving that gift, Chef is willing to play along and let her go as a way of thanking her. :)
THANK YOU! Steven was enjoying his thought of a juicy ass cheeseburger with cheddar while the chef was savoring that lost pure feeling, his gift from Margot/Erin.
@@TheMaskedChef7 The Director explicitly said that Margot/Erin survived.
This is pretty much how I interpreted the entire exchange between Margot & Chef's characters at the conclusion of the film.
I believe Margot might still die.
They talk about the dry aged beef being lethal if aged just one day longer. Odd thing to include since there’s no beef on the menu. The only beef consumed is Margot’s burger
@@andyh7777 I'm pretty sure they are just doing the usual tour to not arouse suspicions at that time, and just have a fully stocked kitchen for future service even though it's the last night.
After all, lamb wasn't on The Menu, but it was still available for Tyler's BS...
Also, pretty sure that heavily dry aged wouldn't have that traditional juicy flavor and texture she asked for.
There's something really sinister about Tyler showing up to the dinner knowing people would die, but still thinking he was the exception out of everyone, but it's also cathartic knowing Margo was the real standout.
& him representing Gluttony with a slight greed.
Oh see, I don't think he assumed he was the exception at all. I think he knew that he would die along with everyone else, but because he's such a psychotic fanboy he was actually FINE with that fact - so long as he got to taste Chef's food and be part of such an "exclusive" experience. That also explains why he was savoring every dish, every word, and every moment: because he was viewing the whole evening as his final perfect night on earth.
I don’t think cathartic is the right word.
@@dlweiss And then when he was driven to suicide?…
I dont think he tought he was the exception, i think he is just dumb
I love that you can watch the movie a second time and pick up on lots of details that you miss on the first watch. Like when Tyler is telling Erin what to do throughout the movie, even starting by telling her not to smoke, you realize she is obeying his requests because it is part of her job and not because they are in a relationship like you thought they were on the first viewing.
This! I watched it a second time just now and there's so many things that you miss the first time.
My favourite one is when the fraud bros are like "We'll have this place closed by the morning" and Elsa says "Oh no, that won't be necessary." That is SUCH a weird way to respond to that kind of threat... unless you already know what's going to happen to the restaurant by the end of the meal, lol.
And how when Elsa first checks everyone in and Tyler pauses after saying "this is Miss" when introducing Margot because he probably didn't get her last name
So she was like the girlfriend experience kind of a thing?
@@29subhra yess because she is a sex worker and was payed to act like his gf
Fun fact: On the Dead Meat podcast, they mentioned that Daniel Radcliffe was supposed to play the actor character, and he was going to play himself. He had to drop out due to scheduling conflicts, so Jon Leguizamo stepped in instead. (Who did a great job anyways, but unfortunately he didn't play himself.)
"Harry Potter, enjoy your meal, I call it Avada Kedavra."
That would’ve been so fucking good 😭😭
He would have been too nice and appealing if he played himself
Couldn’t get Harry so they got Voldemort instead
Dam that would have been epic.
The film is an allegory for the toxic relationship between service workers and customers. Basically, it means... be nicer to the staff.
it seems there's way more than that tho, every plate is also an statement (yeah that might sound like Tyler but it's true), that's why the movie breaks down into courses. it talks about art, toxicity, social classes, making a show out of tragedies and art coming from it, pretentious and narcissist people.
I think it goes a little deeper than just being nicer
You just summarized Midsommar, same allegory
As a service worker myself, I second this comment. after 7 years of working back-to-back service jobs, I now hate customers and have fantasized about making "The Mess" more times than I've got fingers or toes to count on. and the kicker, Every time I've told my bosses that I wanted to "make the mess" they have fired me for it.
what are you talking about dude, they're all suicidal murdereous psychopaths.
It took me a couple of rewatches to realise that the female sous chef stabbed the chef in the thigh with scissors, which is exactly what he said he did to his dad, signifying that he eventually realised he became his father; a person who abuses his power.
And Erin also stabbed Elsa in the throat, as chef said he should have stabbed his father
@@lynall-zi9yj HOLY FUCKKK
@@ashlabelle omg! You connected that for me - i love it!
The only picture of chef smiling (actually grinning with joy) was his employee of the month photo so Margo knew that was when he actually enjoyed cooking and I get it; I remember working at a diner as a seventeen year old when you worked your shift and everyone enjoyed what you made and then you went out after your shift and hung out with your friends and it was fun. No food critics, foodies, money guys who want to change your food just a good time and camaraderie with the staff. Back when life was simple. So when I see chef cook his cheeseburger with care and enthusiasm I know exactly how he feels 😊
she also outsmarts him with the "food to go" bit, but you can clearly see the chef knows she's doing this, but he lets her, I think he almost admires that sh'es figured out a way to escape
Yeah he gives her a way out by maintaining the relationship between the chef and a satisfied customer that genuinely appreciates the food he's prepared. No pretension, deconstruction of the dish, hypercritical observation or fawning just:"now that's a cheeseburger". The best he's probably felt cooking in a long time
"Being a critic would ruin the fun of eating for me".
I might be wrong but I do believe that was one of the points the movie was making.
I just realized Margot gets bread, by ordering a cheeseburger. But Margot, unlike the others, is a common man, due to her socio-economic status. So not only did she get something simple like a cheeseburger, she got it on a bun.
Erin*
@@virgildimitrion7658they call her Margot in the movie after she reveals her name, nobody at all cares.
There's a deleted scene where all the women get bread.
That's what Tyler's eating when Chef confronts him about why he's here.
Tyler's Bullshit is one of the best scenes of 2022. So satisfyingly hard to watch. Also burst out laughing in the theater when he told Leguizamo why he was dying. What a brilliant film.
Gather around. Perhaps this is a new form of dicing to which we have not been privy
@@17thknight we have been woefully ignorant 😂😂 that cracked me up
Thats the perfect way to put isn’t it, “Satisfyingly hard to watch”. Cause it makes you feel so BAD for him and yet you also feel he wholly deserves it. I think i might’ve only felt this emotion less than a handful of times, its difficult to evoke
Its crazy, he couldah just made a fried-egg or something.
She was the first person that actually made him feel something in the kitchen again. She took him back to his roots. So he let her live
I heard someone else give another great explanation: "no substitutions".
@Always Blue Probably on purpose, to test if she would use the radio.
@@zombiesingularity agreed, it wasn’t just that she reminded him of where he fell in love with cooking but that she wasn’t supposed to be there in the first place and she too was a member of the service industry.
"I'm gonna have this place closed by the morning do you understand?"
"No, that won't be necessary."
Yeah, it really wont.
The breadless bread plate really cracked me up 😂
That plate filled me with so much rage 😂😂😂
The best thing about Slowik's statement bread is that it comes back around when Margot orders a cheeseburger. It symbolically differentiated Margot as a commoner (who Slowik said bread is meant for), and he allowed her to leave because she ultimately is not a part of the elitist snobs who devour his art with no appreciation.
That course is the moment you know things are starting to go sideways. And it's darkly hilarious. :)
@@d.eliiii I mean as a bread lover i can see why he do it to the guest but still it ticks me .
Lol it was like a slap to the face
She survives because she finally gave him back his joy: the art of making someone happy, and the suspense he got from hoping she loved it. Also, he knew she was not intended to be in that dinner party and didn't "deserve" to be there.
I love how Nikki picked at the VERY BEGINNING what the movie was really shining a light on. Just the pretentious foodie culture, and satirizing the hell out of it.
As someone who has worked in restaurants from fine dining to corporate chains I loved this movie. It was a great take on how you will do “anything” in the kitchen so The Menu is the best it can be. Love how this took it to a culty extreme willing to die for it!
Seriously with always saying yes chef, no chef, sorry chef. It's interesting how many different perspectives there are for the audience depending if you've worked in a restaurant or in customer service or not
There's a behind the scenes making of The Menu that shows how impressive this film really is. From the fact that many of the staff are actual professional cooks and the consultant they brought in to do the food visuals is a high rated chef.
As someone who has had the good fortune of traveling to Italy over a dozen times (on business), Olive Garden is barely food, let alone Italian food 😂🤣😂🤣
@@kev121 I’d take a real Italian trattoria over most of the the “finest” Italian restaurants here in the USA as the chefs now are rarely Italian.
@kev121 that's kinda what makes me hate that fancy food of weddings or restaurants.
I remember many I've gone where they presented a whole lot of food with combinations that weren't really tasty, just to look good, i barely finished those plates, but my favorite was when i was 13 and sat in the kids table, and we had chicken nuggets and fries
Hilarious that Hello Fresh sponsors THIS reaction video 🤣
The most horrific part of the movie is when they said the people would be getting NO bread! I actually said out loud...NOOOOOOO! I love bread so much. I am with Steven, I could eat bread every day.
It comes back to chef quoting Dr King 'freedom is never voluntary given by the oppressor it must be demanded.' She demanded a burger and by asking 'to take it to go' she in a way demanded her freedom and that's why I think he let her go
Not only did she play the chefs feelings & get him to enjoy cooking a meal again (he knew exactly what she was doing) but she gave him a storyline that allowed her to live that he could accept. So well acted.
She was the only one there who wasn’t part of the snobby demographic that ruined cooking for him….he actually got to enjoy cooking something one last time….letting her go was a sign of gratitude
Just wanna point out the humor in Anya Taylor-Joy, an actress with big, gorgeous eyes, saying the line, "I think my eyes were a little bigger than my stomach."
I loved the exchange between Chef and the actor's plus one. You were privileged enough to have your schooling at Brown paid without needing student loans, you're dying. I can't be angry with him. The service industry, especially when dealing with unappreciative and self-entitled A-holes, drains your soul. I 100% understand why he did it. I personally could never take a life much less a room full of them, but I get it.
That line made me laugh so goddamn hard.
@@phousefilms same 😂
Not only did she come from a rich background and while getting into one of the best schools, making more money than most ever would but STILL chose to steal from her boss like a common thief. Like REALLY! Talk about the AUDACITY! At first, I thought that it was kind of harsh but looked at it again and understood what Chef was saying.
@@rodgill9376 EXACTLY....when she confessed to stealing I was like OOOP then when it turned out she was ALREADY LOADED i was like "OH HELLLL NAH"....greed is a sickness truly
The only picture that Chef was happy in was when he was cooking burgers at the diner as a young man. Margot saw this and used it to make him feel the joy of cooking again. Because of this kindness she gave to him he let her live.
Death was on the menu and Margot sent his food back, then requested a cheese burger, which is something that isn't on the menu.
Margot also reminded him of his love for cooking, even for just a short moment.
she also wasn't on the menu which likely helped her case
@@NikkiStevenReact It absolutely did.
He was smiling when he made the burger, she made him feel the joy of cooking again, they probably missed that detail because of all the talking they did during that scene...
She got to live because she wasn’t pretentious and she had the chef cook something he actually enjoyed.
“I want to travel the world and eat everyone’s cheeseburger.” Steven. Life goals…
I'm a simple dude, ha!!
@@NikkiStevenReact
It’s highlighted on my bucket list! Right there with ya!
@@NikkiStevenReact That's my favourite kind! When Margot said "A real cheese burger. Not some fancy deconstructed avant bullshit." I actually yelled "YES!!!" out loud. She is my HERO.
👏👏👏👏🥳
This film totally caught me by surprise. It was very entertaining
Erin (aka Margot) WAS the woman with the husband on the tortilla. It looked like she had blond hair in the picture.
I love how there’s all these horrible people and then there’s a bad actor and a girl who didn’t use student loans lol
While not as horrible as some of the others, Slowik chose the actor because he'd lost his passion for his art and was just phoning it in like him. The actor's assistant was chosen because of her privilege (Ivy League school with no student loans, mother getting her a cushy corporate job, etc.) and entitlement (she was stealing money). They were both complicit "takers" contributing in some way to Slowik's disillusionment with his work and life.
@@ragtimeraver agree about both of them but also the actor knew the movie would be bad and didn’t care. To some people that money and time is precious.
@@ragtimeraver …money and time being that of the movie goer but yea, to add to what you said about his passion, it really fits into the theme of class entitlement and being a taker.
I like that they made sure to include some people like that so the audience wouldn't be able to forget that Chef Slowik is a murderer who has lost his damned mind. It's easy to look at the finance bros committing fraud and the freaky old man who hired Margo before and Tyler who hired Margo knowing she would die, and think maybe they deserve this. I think the absurdity of the chef being like "I'm killing you for taking a part in a bad movie" is a good reminder that no, actually, the chef is not doing the "right thing" here. He may have happened to target some shitty people, but his motivations are still 100% psychotic.
It actually is a comment on why Slovik is a monster in all senses,
He's the entitled artist who thinks his art is so great he gets to pass judgement on others art,
He views the bad actors art as unappealing and therefore worthy of death.
But the thing is art is subjective.
Fun Fact: Some fancy restaurants refuse to provide a To go bag since taking the food to go in a “doggy bag” is below them.
Restaurant employee (with contempt) “We are an upscale restaurant and do not have doggy bags or allow guests to take food to go."
Me: “Since I paid for the food I will decide what to do with it and I'll put the leftovers in my purse if you don't give me a To go box...“
Long story short they brought me to go box. So when Margot ordered the cheeseburger and also asked for the food to go I cheered because those symbols of being a common person helped show she was not like the other guests! 😎🎉
I love how much of a satire it is to Influencer culture. The relationship a content creator has with its public, sponsors, and so forth. It was such a great movie and I agree about the tensión building and building. Lol, it makes sense once you get to the end of the menu. Glad ya’ll reacted to this. Love it!
The cheeseburger scene was basically like Ratatouille except the chef was reminded of his past when happy by cooking instead of eating. Because Erin made him feel that way, he decided she could live.
What I loved about this movie is that doesn't fit easily into a genre. It is suspense, black comedy, horror, all rolled into one. It wasn't what I expected, but it was one of my favorite movies of 2022.
The main thing was that Chef tells "Margot" that he lost the joy of cooking, which he devoted his life to. He told her how he had stopped enjoying serving people. He also makes it clear he had planned everything out to take his revenge on the people who destroyed the thing he cared about. Margot, of course, was not supposed to be there. When he made her the cheeseburger, he actually was happy to cook something that made another person happy. You can see the genuine happiness... the love he has for cooking as he makes it and serves it. This is why he lets her go.
As a food service worker it was nice too see the guest be put in their place. Its wild how rude people are when the relationship is "server" and the one being "served"
As somebody who never worked in food service, I'Ve always proposed that every food service worker should be allowed to punch one (1) customer per week for mental health.
Ok so they deserve to get burned as marshmallows ? Crazy
@@frfras7 google "hyperbole" and come back to us once you understood the concept, thank you.
@@frfras7 calm down karen
@@frfras7 I bet you threaten to not tip your server when you eat out.
Compliments to the chef working on the food behind the scenes.
One thing I truly love about this film is that the Chef isn't some "I'm superior and you must all suffer" kind of villain. He holds himself as guilty as well. They all must die. Ralph Fiennes is such a damn good actor. The simple pleasure and joy in his face making that Cheeseburger is so real. Also, that burger looks fucking delicious. This movie is wild, and just so damn good for how off it keeps throwing you. It is very Midsommar feeling. The message about keeping the love for what you do, not losing yourself to other's demands... it's surprisingly deep underneath the anxiety ridden bizzare nature of it all.
He let Margot go because she was a giver. She gave him the gift of enjoying making food for someone again. She saw the photo of him working a burger stand in his house. And she dared him to make a normal plain cheeseburger. And it brought the smile back. The joy. She paid for it, without expecting it to be comped (critics). She thanked him. She gets to live. In fairness, it was only her that could do this. He didn't know where to put her, with the takers or the givers, and she wasn't part of the original plan, so when she proved to be a giver, he let her go.
My friends and I are grad students who could only attend school through student loans, we all laughed so hard at the "What school did you go to?" "Brown" "Student loans?" "..no" "I'm sorry, you're dying" bit
I love all of this movie but that student loan line was the greatest.
Right! Lol. I'm glad I have student loans then. (Not in real life though)
I always feel happy watch THE turning point for the course which is The Mess.
But also Tyler constantly disrespecting Margot and her intelligence bc she's hired, urks me everytime. Left hand slap ready to go.
I love how the chef even got Steven to pay attention when he claps😂😂😂. So glad you guys did this movie. I dare you to watch THE BAY.
They need to watch the movie Old
@@jean-pierre5221 very good movie! It moved a little slow but it was fun!
FACTS!
@@tamikobogad6306 bruh, Old was utterly atrocious 😂😂😂
@@jean-pierre5221 ...did you just fucking SNAP at us?? Old is terrible! =P
I like the message of the movie. No matter how fancy you (think you) are, there is always some joy to be found in basic things: a cheeseburger, a blockbuster movie, an adventure novel, a catchy song. And every creator worth their fame knows this: sometimes you just want to do something that's simply enjoyable, without pretense, without overthinking every detail, without obnoxious criticism. Enjoy the little things, no more, no less.
Granted, in this case the one providing the metaphor still is a sociopathic murderer, but the overall moral stands.
the murderer also was a pretentious prick. it was pretenception
I feel like Hannibal Lecter would vibe with this guy 😂
Or Voldemort!😜
one question that popped into my head after watching this....
....what was the crime of _the other girl?_ the one that broke up with Tyler.
because, everyone invited to this dinner was guilty of something, and the tortillas were telling them that to their faces.
but Margo/Erin wasn't supposed to be here! what did she get?
Not gonna lie, Olive Garden has always been one of my favorite spots. That fettuccine Alfredo hits every.single.time.
I enjoyed places like Olive Garden and Applebee's when I was little. But it's just hard for me to take seriously as an adult, because I know it's basically microwaved food. No judgement for people who legit like it, but I just can't do it anymore.
@@rabd3721 tastes great to me and I guess that’s really what it comes down to
You either really like it or you don’t
@@KDEEZYBABY That's fair
Yes! The OG hits. Leave the cheese brick with me lol.
Olive Garden still has the best Alfredo sauce I’ve ever tasted. A plate of that and the soft breadsticks…. Chef’s Kiss!
Why did Elsa think Erin would replace her and tried to kill her when she knew they would all die anyways that night?
There are movies you watch and enjoy, and then movies that take up a permanent residence in your head. This one is in my head like The Matrix and A New Hope
Shocking movie in the best way possible
I’m a chef. I haven’t laughed this hard in so long! Thank you so much
The smile on Ralph Fiennes as her request for a cheeseburger sinks in is so good.
Understandable why chef would release Erin (Margot); he first saw her as a kindred spirit (a provider) and then she asked him to make something that made him feel happy once upon a time, a regular well-made cheeseburger. It breathed life into him even for just that moment so to thank her for letting him experience it one last time, he granted her freedom.
PS: After watching the film, I got hungry so I ordered a burger with all the works and extra pickles 😂
As a Jeremy who works in a restaurant, I make THE MESS meal every ear for my birthday now.
This was the most surprising movie of 2022 for me. A lot of movies are weird just for the sake of being weird. This one was weird in a good way. Very unique. Great reaction y'all
I’m so glad you guys reacted to this. This is my favorite movie of the year. It’s such a good breakdown of culture and the process of art in general. Each course is a different part of that process. The angel investors holding artists captive financially, the fact that artists think they need to create out of a place of pain and trauma (thigh story), the broken artist that gets engulfed by his work (The Mess), the people who think they can do the artists’ job better than them but don’t have the ability (Tyler). And I think it works the other way too. Artists become way too sensitive when critiqued poorly. Look, I know I feel and may look like Tyler from the movie with this very pretentious analysis but I think it was done on purpose and I find beauty in that
One of my favorite movies of 2022! Such a great experience to watch!!
Steven's "This is so insane counter": 26 times.
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*One of my top movies from 2022. Absolutely glorious.*
A little surprised you guys didn’t recognize the food critic is Helen from Ozark
she looked very different
my second favorite film of 2022. amazing film. ralph feinnes gives one of the best performances of the year
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I *LOVE* that you, like I, went into this knowing absolutely nothing. That's the way to watch every movie.
“ And the worst part is I’m still fucking hungry “
every $$$$$ star restaurant I've treated myself to in my LIFE!!!!!!
I think a lot of ppl do not understand this movie , I loved this movie , excellent acting
I absolutely adored this movie it was one of the best I've seen in a long time and really left me thinking about it for days! :)
same. very good and funny.
Margot lived (in my opinion) because she firstly, wasn't part of the original plan. She was n outlier. On top of that she was able to connect a bit with chef as both were "Service workers" and lastly, she was able to request a dish that brought that spark back in Chef. Something he liked to cook and serve.
Ralph Fiennes absolutely stole the show, you could tell he was having a good time in this movie
Watched this movie last week and thought it was amazing. It will stay with you for days
As will the craving for that 🍔!
The way he drags the knife to cut the finger off made me wince so hard.
Preach brother! Grew up in a Calabrian household…Olive Garden was for my momo friends. No one cooks like nonna!
So I actually attended a somewhat similar dinner (prix fix with a lot of the food grown by restaurant staff and things like that, but obviously not $1250 a person or with a chef that had lost his damn mind, lol). It was actually SUPER worth. My husband and I went away for our anniversary and spent a weekend in this little cottage resort owned and run by two chefs. They held a dinner every night, like... $50 a person or something, but only available to people who were staying at the resort. It had a set menu, but you could tell them about your food preferences or dietary restrictions and they'd just make sure the menu worked within those limitations.
It was kinda similar to Hawthorne in that the resort had a greenhouse on the property where they grew most of the vegetables they used, and there was a little local farm next door where they got their eggs and dairy products. A lot of the meats were locally caught fish. The chefs came out as each course was served (I think there were three or four?) to talk a little about the dish, what was in it, who caught the fish, stuff like that. The differences were mostly in that it wasn't on an island, it was only 3 courses instead of however many this has, and the "we produce it locally" aspect wasn't as intense - like, yes, they grew all the veggies in the greenhouse, but they weren't raising their own cows and they bought their staples like flour and sugar. That and they served us actual food instead of concepts, lol.
Anyway, it was exactly as fun and awesome as you'd think, and I highly, highly, highly recommend doing something like that. It was probably the best food I've had in my whole life.
I watched it about a week ago with no expectations because I didn’t really know what it was about. I enjoyed it!
Fun fact, during the cheeseburger scene, it legit made all the actors hungry for a burger so John Leguizamo order Five Guys for the entire crew.
I love that you all bought in early, while increasingly feeling the ominous intensity. My wife and I watched. Our reactions were inline with yours. Thoroughly enjoyed.
I can't stop loving how original this film is.
YES!!! We watched this last night, and once I picked my jaw off the floor I started looking for people who have reacted to this one.
The movie really says a lot about modern society, it’s brilliant.
Many years ago I had a super fancy meal in London very much like this one, and yes it cost a LOT - over a thousand pounds.
It was amazing flavors and textures and presentation, and I'm glad I did it one time.
But it's not my kinda thing.
There are definitely people who go to these restaurants to say they went as a brag, not to enjoy the food.
With all of that said, I went to see this movie in the theater a few weeks ago knowing nothing about it. I thought it was an absolute blast. Brilliantly done, and the tension does ramp up and up without losing sight of the satire. Excellent.
The first time I saw this in theaters, I went in basically blind as well. My audience was just as into it as I was. Laughing a lot and so immersed
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If you liked Ralph Fiennes’s performance here check out The Grand Budapest Hotel. It’s a real treat
He is such a good actor. Like crazy good. His face can convey so many emotions without moving a muscle.
YOOOOooo!!! I just watched this last night!!! So happy you guys are watching it!!! I've been telling everyone about it. Brilliant, just brilliant.
When Steven said how he wouldn't do well here because he'd be the one to ask for a replacement, as someone who already saw this movie I said "asking for a replacement would probably save your life, man". 🤣🤣🤣
It was like ordering that cheeseburger was what got the chef to calm down some because it brought him back to a time where he was truly happy and still enjoyed cooking. She had to have picked that up from seeing that younger picture of him cooking a burger and seeing the genuine smile on his face. And she was the only one to stand her ground, put up a fight, and call out just how cold and loveless the food he was serving was. And so he spared her, while the others died not just because they've done bad things but because they DIDN'T fight back like she did. They didn't even have the guts to voice their real opinions of the chef's cooking like she did. She came from a place of service, having to work and fight in order to make it. While the others were mostly spineless worms who used people or abused whatever power they had, and probably had things handed to them for a long time making them helpless in such a crazy situation. The cold part is that even the chef said they could've made it had they all put up a fight, but only one guest there seemed to have any fight in them. And that's the one who got away.
She saw he won an award when he was young for best burger and there is a picture of him smiling. She asked for the cheeseburger to give him what he desperately wants, to cook something with the love that got him into cooking and have that love appreciated by someone. That’s why he let her go.
She saw the photo in his home of his very first job serving cheeseburgers. This is what began his culinary career and it brought him back to that feeling of first serving someone. This whole movie was more about fine dining and a statement on the “givers” and “takers” in life. That the givers will never get the fulfillment they deserve the more they succeed because people take more and more from you and are never satisfied.
Love that the clap made steven stop talking.
God bless you “The Menu”
I thought he would never end
watched this movie days ago, watching this full reaction too, different experience because this couple is so good
the movie was just beautiful made... and the food was really "Chef's Table" quality.. They made the whole setup like something was off from the start but you didnt really know what.. The suspense just builds and builds and I loved how Margot decided to fight back at the end and use the Chef's love of cooking when he first started as a way to get out of the situation by appealing to him to get a To Go.. There would not have been any other way to get out of her predicament
I love how Nikki nails the whole point of the movie minutes in.
Nice to see you guys react to this; I saw it a few weeks ago it was probably my 2nd favorite movie of the year, after Everything, Everywhere, All At Once
I love this movie it’s shows how the highest end has become about trying to please those who can’t be pleased, the customer doesn’t get a satisfactory meal & the chefs get no joy from cooking it. The cheeseburger represents him wanting to cook for someone again, he finally rediscovers his love at the end & let’s her live.
You see everything wrong with the industry yet at the end both chef & customer get what they want
I enjoyed this movie. Its different and unique. I think the tension is what made it scary and suspenseful.
If you notice at the chef house, margot saw a picture of younger chef cooking a burger, it was his happiest days before he became famous and had to keep fillling up ppl's demand. And that's what she gave to him at the end, his happiest day and best dish without all those artificial looking food, just a simple delish burger.
So funny that she noticed everyone's attitude except anya. So important to be able to see all flaws and not just the people you despise.
The tables represent the seven deadly sins, the tortillas were a pretty solid clue to this. I loved this movie, so intense and many crazy twists.
This film is ORIGINAL, originality, something which is sadly missing from even the most lauded Hollywood efforts is abundant here! I love this film! By the way, my favorite food is a cheeseburger!
3:52 THAT STATEMENT!!!! is literally the point of Nicholas Hoult’s character.
they say some chefs have the mind of sociopath in the search of perfection
Hard to reason with guy who is suicidal as well as murderous but Erin nailed it. What a queen 👸