Dendrobium nobile Types - A Seaonal Guide
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- Опубликовано: 24 май 2019
- A suggestion from a viewer - as the nobile hybrids are probably the most popular of all the Dendrobiums, this is a seasonal guide to growing these rewarding and variable Dendrobiums.
Remember that environments can be quite different as can be the parts of the world these are being grown in. As such, adjustments may be required.
As always, thanks for watching.
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Thank you Roger. You’re the only one that answered all my questions in your video. Thank you for the great explanations!
You're welcome.
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Very good Roger! Most videos on nobilies are posted before the winter rest period. This is a good all rounder starting with where we are now with them.
Many thanks 👍😊
With the hybrids, people worry too much about 'the Winter' - it's more important to get big fat canes in the growing season.
Hi Roger
Great info I am creating a flower notebook on how to take care of my flowers. I also print pictures of what they should look like and their care. The care depends on location, and so many factors making it different for all of us. This video was excellent. Definitely learned more of why my Den Nobile Bridal Red Celabration grew keikis instead of blooming. Got it 9/2/18. It had bloomed before I received it. Thanks again JoAnn
Great info Roger , very timely!
Thanks.
Can only say thank you! Exactly what I needed 😍
You're welcome.
Thank you, Roger! This was exactly the information I needed for my nobile. AND the inspiration ! I lost most of my orchids, and inspiration, in a fire last autumn. And this is my first video since that. I've always felt unsure about dendrobium. When to rest and when to wather so that they can bloom. I will share this video in my orchidgroup on Facebook. This will be helpful for they as well.
Oh Roger. Thanks heaps once again. Very, very informative.
You're welcome.
Very comprehensive tutorial on Nobiles. Thanks once again, Roger!
You're welcome.
This was a terrific learning video! I really appreciated this one as I recently got a few Nobile type Dendrobiums. Thanks Roger!!
Good luck with them.
Every other days with a medium feed (tds 150-ish with a bit of cal/mag) and a day to dry out. Really helpful video Roger 😉 you could easily use this video for your next orchid talk
Loved the educational video.
Your videos are like the bible of orchid care😉
Thanks.
great information video!
Thanks.
Marvellous information, thanks Roger. I recently picked up my first dendrobium nobile type from my orchid society’s most recent show. It’s a no ID but I now feel much more confident I can give her the care she needs 💜🌸💚
The more complex hybrids are easier to get to re-bloom and the 'seasonal care' doesn't have to be quite so 'precise'.
You've answered all my questions in one video Roger. The first video of yours i've seen so will definitely subscribe. All the advice i see online is so conflicting and often for different parts of the world not in the northern hemisphere. I wondered if my new Dendrobium Nobile (Swallow Queen i think) i bought had been forced for Christmas bloom for sale. Thanks for this.
Most nobile type hybrids are 'forced' into bloom. They can take a year or two to settle down to a normal blooming period - usually late Winter/Early Spring.
Thank you, very helpful!!
I am in LA, & just started growing orchids outside in my various garden areas. At least I know now that the Nobile can handle the LA cold winter. The summer is another story. We shall see how they will do. May be I can train them to be Angelinos 😉
Thank you
Thank you Roger! just the sort of video I needed. Hopefully I will find a nobile I want to buy at Malvern.
Any 'in bloom' at Malvern will be 'out of season' so may not bloom that well the following year but after that, they should acclimatise into proper seasons. (btw - I will be there all day Fri. and Sat.)
Most informative video I've found so far! Really helpful. Thank you. Also as a Norfolk girl, I'm loving your accent. Sounds like home :)
I was born in Hampshire but, even though I'm still in the same town, I'm now in Dorset thanks to the boundary changes.
Thanks so much for this video! I just purchased my first nobile hybrid (one of the big blousy types). I got my Den. unicum to bloom successfully this spring, it's actually still in bloom (has been in bloom since end of march) so I thought I'd get a few more dendrobiums and try my hand at those.
The modern nobile hybrids normally do well even if not given ideal conditions with the seasonal changes.
Interesting informative vid, more & more the dends are creeping into my collection. I wonder why ! ! ! Oh & yes WW is now in spike.
Good news on the spike!
I have four of them I’m in south Florida I got 2 to bloom this year and Tks for the info
You're welcome.
Thanks a lot Roger! I'm on my third now, I "chucked two under the hedge" or "binned them" as Rachel would say. 😁 I understand what I was doing wrong.... I was afraid of over watering them so the new growths failed and the canes shriveled. This third one has done the same but hasn't died yet....I just noticed 2 nubbins sprouting at about the second knuckle from the bottom. Maybe a keike or growth? We'll see what happens.
Hi Roger, it’s the end of December and my dendrobium has some buds growing and two new canes growing at the base. I had it outside all summer and all of autumn. I left it outside and let it get some colder temperatures and just brought it in last week. Not really sure what I should be doing at this point. I’ve had bad luck in the past with dendrobiums and gotten nothing but keikeis. This is the first time it seems like it’s producing flower buds. Your advice is most welcome. Thank you so much and happy new year.🎉🎉🎉🎉
If it's growing new canes, feed and water especially if it's come from the cold to a warmer environment. If the buds have already formed, they won't be keikis.
Interesting what you say about the species, here in NZ I was assured it was easier to grow and easier to have a good flower show then the hybrids. I was given a species just this autumn so will compare it to my hybrids...... watch this space 😊
It may depend on 'where' it's grown - in places where there is rarely a frost (Winter lows of 3-4C), people just leave them outside. These would naturally bloom well as they would get cold and good light so all that would be needed is to keep them almost dry - nature would do the rest.
Very timely as I was not going to do right by my nobiles this winter. I live in North Florida, and I have several nobiles under an outdoor pergola. They are not protected by a shade cloth (other orchids are), and they are growing into monsters. I will need to bring them indoors some nights during the winter, but for the most part they should be just fine where they are.
Hi Dottie ... I lost several of my nobiles and am having a terrible time finding any sources for keikies to seedlings to mature plants since Yamamoto orchids in Hawaii closed down ... do you have any that you would consider parting with? Please let me know....Richard
Beautiful, informative video. Thank you for sharing. I just wanted to know what fertilizer, are you using once you see the buds coming out? Thank you in advance and keep showing more videos like this I love watching them.👍🏻👍🏻
I only have one fertiliser - the MSU formula from the States. Once the buds start to extend away from the canes, I give low feed and gradually increase it back up to normal by the time the blooms open.
Roger, first, I want to thank you for keeping me company the last 2 hours of my (very late) journey home on an inky, black night. I’m exhausted and I was grateful to listen to you chatting. It kept me alert and I arrived alive and well!
Being “newer” to orchids, can you explain how when repotting, we properly position the plant in the pot. I’m not sure if I bury mine too deep. I recently reported a cattleya with very shallow roots and it kept falling over, so I kept dumping and trying to get deep enough to stand up properly.
I do hope this makes sense, if not, please let me know and I’ll try to explain when I’m less exhausted! Eight hours of driving in 15 hours is too much for this ole girl!
That's a lot of driving! Most orchids like to be potted just on the surface - with Cattleya types, the rhizome should be visible, others , the base of the plant should sit on the surface, and some like the Oncidium types like just the lowest part of the bulbs just in the media. Staking is often the only answer to get tall plants to stay upright.
Roger, as you know, we go to extremes when it comes to our children. BUT, I too am retired and that drive kicked my fanny!
You were my lifesaver! 👍🏼
So glad you mentioned the difference between the species and hybrids. I have Yamamoto nobiles (and will add a few more to the collection). I like them because of the variety of colors and large size in the flowers. Mine are mounted growing upside-down. They didn't get a resting period and put on an incredible show of flowers in Jan-Feb. I am so glad to be able to have them in the collection and be their guardian in my s. FL USA garden. What is the name of the one with the lavender-color around the outside?
If you mean the one actually in bloom, that's my new one Den. Sweet Pinky 'Momoko'.
Thanks Roger for the information I've just bought a dendrobium rainbow dance, is the care the same as your nobles in the video on dendrobium nobles. Haven't found much on rainbow dance.
Dez
It is a nobile type.
Thank you for the information about terminal leaf. It was new for me. Always learning something from you. I have exact type with big pinkish flowers which came to me with buds this winter and had a very happy bloom. Now is my turn to practice and get it well :) by the any chance you have the name for it?
If you mean the one actually in bloom, that's my new one Den. Sweet Pinky 'Momoko'.
If your fogger is R2D2 you must be the dendrobium Yoda think I!
Right you may be - look into it I will.
hi i have just got 2 store bought dendrobiums is all the call them the flowers are white and in between the leaves the last flower fell off in transit on the way home what way would you recomend going forward repotting ect
just seem the top leaves you described in your video so i can surmise they have reach the end of growing period but the are new growths on one of the plants and they are both shriveled ( same as your one )
Hi Roger. I have a nobile that I got as a small start a couple years ago. This year it really needed repotting. I waited till I saw new root growth starting now so I repotted it today. When you repot do you start watering and feeding right away or do you wait a while? Thanks so much.
I water my repots straight away and start feeding soon after.
I’ve sent the past few weeks sorting all my Dens into resting and non resting types. I have a few Aussie Dens, not a lot but a few. The majority though are small as I bought a lots of seedlings.
No I have ‘areas’ that will need watering more frequently, and some less, and some that are so small I will need to check them every other day. So no easy winter for me this year as far as my Dens are concerned.
I have nobile var nobile, nobile virginalis and maybe another type of specie and no idea what to do with them, so they will be rested.
That's how I manage mine - put them in 'sets' according to watering frequencies.
What do I do with the temperature oncethey bloom? Do I keep it out in the lower temps or take it into the 18-24C livingroom?
If you keep them cool while in bloom, the blooms will last longer. Once the blooms finish, the temp can be raised.
Roger,my nobile is in dry rest, setting little nubbins and a new growth was just spotted. Would you resume feed and water
Hold off until those nubins grow away from the cane (about 2cm long). The new growth will be supplied from the existing canes until then.
Hi Roger, thank you for this very useful video. I am wondering how mounted ones are watered? You said they are watered more frequently but how is this done? Dunked in a bucket? Poured on top?
I just pour water over the roots. I try to keep the plants dry especially when the temps are low.
@@GrowingOrchidswithRoger Thank you. I would like to try mounting and hanging but am building up my nerve. I lost two out of four phals this year and it has really knocked my confidence. Then my husband brought home a Den so I am trying to make sure I do everything right for it.
Roger, what feed do you use and at what ec level and ph level do you apply? Thankyou
I use the MSU formula from Greencare in the States - the one for RO/Rain water. Different orchids get different strengths and different again through the seasons. I keep my pH between 6.0 and 6.8 and vary it.
Today I’ve received a nursery grown Apollon in full flower as a gift. My other nobile has flowered, produced 3 new long shoots and is now ready to go into cooler conditions for the Winter. This new one is going to be totally out of sync in terms of trying to make new shoots during the low light periods of a UK Winter.
Any advice would be appreciated 👍
Just keep it as bright as you can and once new growth starts, make sure it gets some feed - even if it is in Winter.
My camera has a beep which I can't hear anymore, so i usually notice that after 15 minutes talking for the cats tail (good thing the cat is mostly around at that time 😁
hello, thanks for your good informations, I just bought a nobile which is a tube replica of its mother and now the leaves are yellowing , we live in Canberra Australia , why is the young leaves dropping off?
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Do crosses of the phalaenopsis and nobile type exist? If so, they must be very unpredictable.
Also, do nobile hybrids also require the winter rest? 🤔
I don't think those two would be compatible - but there are nobile type hybrids that have other types in the mix. The hybrids will bloom better with the rest but would probably still boom without.
Hi Roger! Yesterday i bought my first Dendrobiums- half price because, one bulbs are shriveled otherone lost flowers. I asked for watering them in the shop, took them home, water again. Substrate is very fine, like coconut. Should i use pine bark in my 18-22°C warm room?
Bark should be fine.
I love that Dendrobium and I have had two but they both did the same thing which is what yours is doing as well. I did not bother after that - formosum frustrates me more mind - fingers crossed yours will work but you know what beasts they are.
Is this comment on the right video?
Lord knows how I got it on there but no it is for cariniferum. Had it 5 years ago and more killed first one which grew beautifully then flowered and popped its clogs then I got another one which did not have a good root system and that did not stand a chance
@@lynnsmith9397 Thinking back, mine also started to decline after blooming - April - August. I may be able to save it - worth a try.
@@GrowingOrchidswithRoger absolutely as it is not one you will see very often. I got hold of another black hair type from Laurence Dend. Wattii and it is a stunner - I mounted it and it grows like a weed got an amazing root system as well. No rhyme or reason really.
When you see buds growth split with 2 ..what fertilize do you feed with?? Blooms booster or 20-20-20?? Am confused 😕
I only use MSU fertiliser (anything with a similar formula would be fine - like Akerne's Rainmix) - the reason? this has all the required elements in sensible balanced proportions. 'Bloom Boosters' are nothing more than a reduced nitrogen feed for which you will get changed extra. A growth booster just has extra nitrogen which on it's own is not so good as it removes the balance with the other elements.
@@GrowingOrchidswithRoger thanks you!
Hi Roger
Thank you for the video, I learned a lot from it, l have moved my Dendrobium to another room, the canes are very shrivelled not thick like your they have two terminal leaves on the top, they are now near a windowsill not in it, I hear a lot about bight light and light,l asked Burnhams were the best place to put this Dendrobium Wenzelii he said they like bright light, and it would be perfect for the windowsill, in the afternoon the sun moved round and it’s very bright light, please advise, the good news is my Tomkin form you has started push out a couple of new roots, l had the label a minute ago, put it you know the rest,
K
At this time of year, Dendrobiums should be growing and don't need as much light - I would avoid direct sun of any kind unless very early in the day and even then, just for an hour or two. More light in Winter but remember wenzelii is not a Winter rester - just a reduction of water/feed to cater for the fact it probably won't be growing much then.
The only caution I have with this advice is when to stop food and water. Some hybrids will reach their terminal leaf but they still require food and water to mature the canes. If you stop food and water too soon after the terminal leaf, you end up with these sad skinny canes that bloom poorly, if at all.
If grown well, the canes should already be mature when the final leaf is produced. I'm sure I said 'gradually' several times.
Are most Nobile dens fragrant.... Janet Rutherford
Some are very fragrant, many have a faint fragrance and some, none at all.
What to “feed”?
A balanced fertiliser?
Time to get a scribe who knows the “Orchid lingo” (Nobile and not No Belize) to type the script!!!(:))
Wear a you Looked at
Thanks for the information, but I'm nauseated from the constantly moving/wobbling around of the video camera.
Fussy he says 😒 It's beyond a migraine
Some orchids seem to need everything 'just right'
@@GrowingOrchidswithRoger Yeah goldy locks aspirations, not in my house 😁
Yes, some adapt easily and others have to be bullied into adapting.
@@GrowingOrchidswithRoger 😁