"We need to be conscientious and careful whilst describing this combination." Proceeds to describe only negative things based on anecdotal generalizations that aren't accurate at all. Dharmapati & Karmapati conjunction; it's a Raja Yoga, and all that you are describing are negative things! As this is just pure speculation, let me put my 2 cents in as well. BPHS says that Saturn conjunct Jupiter cannot do harm. It will NOT harm the native. Guru is the wisest and most benefic planet and Shani is neutral towards Guru. Therefore it will be easy for Guru to handle Shani and control him. Similarly, Shani will affect Guru in certain ways, for example by making sure the native is fully prepared before launching off, which, if just Guru, would be very probable. Expansion and contraction. Shani will constrict and make the native work hard, then Guru will multiply that by 10 (expansion) and give results. So if other people work 1 day and get 1x results, the native with this conjunction will get 10x results only by working 1 day. Other texts also mention that the native will be equal to a king and WILL rule in some capacity or the other. It's logical as these natives NEVER give up. It's simply not in their vocabulary. As Saturn is there, he will make the native work hard and might delay in giving the results, but when it is time to give, Jupiter is there to multiply it ten fold. Maybe you need to dial it back with the doom and gloom :)
If other people work 1 day and get 1x results, the native with this conjunction will get 10x results only by working 1 day. - totally relate to this statement. I have this conjunction and I experience this all the time in my life. Relate to other points you made as well. Thanks for your comment.
Wisely said!here which planet honding the higher degree and the closeness og conjunction,the house they are placed,dignity of nakshetra load ect is not discussed! Cant put all these information in a nut shell!itvis a great combination!
I have saturn/Jupiter/sun/mercury/pluto in 4th house in Libra and further more rahu and Ketu in 1st and 7th house. Lol Lets say I am taking a back sit away from my life 😭😭😂 I may just go be a monk I guess 😂 As I grow older am learning to allow.
I have Jupiter opposite Saturn and Krisnamurti is my favorite modern Philosopher... I think you are a great astrologer but sometimes you're giving me the impression that you try hard to put thinks in boxes and you forget to think outside of them... Still admiring you as an astrologer
Somehow, it doesn’t match with me at all. This combo is in my 12th house of D1. I am no religious fanatic, there was NO talk about religion in my house ever. My parents and grandparents are nonbelievers. However, I am very spiritual, since childhood, something that I recently discovered (I am in my early 40s). I am neither depressed nor unhappy. I am content with or without friends, with or without people ☺️ Unfortunately, I don’t understand people who are depressed or cry baby types. Got no patience with them
Oh my God I have the conjunction in my 4th house Virgo , partner has it in 3rd, in synastrey y’all four of them are 1 degree apart . Started my awakening back in 2018 Saturns definitely taking over losing hope .I have no purpose, my life was really good I even got a house on my Saturn return I don’t know what happened. I can definitely put myself in other people shoes and see their points of view though. Wow dude that’s not me at all you got a remember that it’s not just all about Jupiter and Saturn being together you got a look at the whole chart, Besides that I’m a Pisces sun, mars, Venus , MC Cancer moon and rising Cancer, I am nowhere near as stiff and As is daddy Saturn, and I love counseling by the way.
I have this tightly conjunct in my third house. Been a software developer for a long time and good at it. Despise talking to people who shows me a lack of logic, I will just destroy them or just shut them out XD cos I have tried talking to them and a majority of people showed me they have no common sense. Eg, I was making close to 6 figures living in Asia and dum dumbs from my home country wanted me to go back to a slave job for 1000/mth just cos of culture norm. Years of that BS makes me short tempered against dum dumbs that wants to bother me in anyway whatsoever with their illogical ish. This experience took me a long time to digest and express it cos it never made any sense.
Very true..I have had such bad experiences in life that it has stopped me from thinking postive .I have a track record of not getting of whatever I ever wanted..I am currently in last phase of the 16 year Rahu Mahadasha ..and I have been told that the last years I will have ,would be the most toughest period.. Life has humbled me multiple times ...I hope everything starts to change
A client has Guru in trikona Vth bhava glancing at Shani Maharaja in upachaya XIth bhava. He is fairly prosperous with many rice fields, wives and elephants.
Hi Ryan, I have this not as a conjunction but in opposition. The mutual 7th aspect is to the exact degree. Was I misinformed when I thought this was a good opposition to have?
Hi Ryan, I have a very close conjunction(a planetary war) between Jup and Sat in my 12th house, I wouldnt describe myself as a fanatic but looking back over the years I do think there were streaks of stubborn beliefs when I was younger but still not a fanatic, anyway even those are gone after I crossed 30. I had my encounter with Ramana Maharshi and later with J Krishnamurti and have to say love and respect both of them. Contrary to your thought that this conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn would keep someone away from a teacher like J Krishnamurti, I think it is actually responsible to make me take to him so well and his directness. I always feel the balancing of the two planets Jupiter and Saturn within myself, never getting me too low or too high.
I have this one, also with Venus conjunct, and you are right related the issue with trying so hard to believe in something and then trying to make others believe that, or at least be a very ardent supporter of that belief, but ultimately it's very difficult for me to have a belief that I could stick to. I somehow can see that no belief is the ultimate "truth" so it's very hard to commit to anything. Also true regarding depression, I've been dealing with that all my life on and off. What I find helpful with this combination is that it's sort of a seesaw, it's always up - down - up -down, and it can get intense, but even in the darkest times there is still that Jupiter that doesn't let me lose hope completely, compared to other people, who might not have this aspect and maybe they don't go through many depressive episodes, but when they have one, they might lose all hope more easily than us.
🥲 the amount of rejection , failures, hardships ,mockery I have faced in life is unbelievable .I have anxiety and depression ,I wanted to take my life when i was in 8th grade since then it has been a non stop battle with failures.i would always think why am I going through all of this..I am just a kid..what could I have possibly done wrong..I stopped to trust anyone..my father used to beat the living crap out of me everytime.and I would always get into trouble in my school days.i was bullied ,made fun of.. With zero to little succces even after putting 1000% percent effort.i can totally relate to it..i have kinda become emotionless .I hardly remember when was the last time when I was truly happy.🥲
I always hear negative things about Saturn. Sometimes I wonder how can Saturn give us positive results when it is associated with all the negative things. I know it gives discipline, structure etc. But mostly the negative things. As always amazing video. Thanks Ryan.
I have this conjunction in my D1, Jupiter with Saturn (R) in the 5th house, Virgo, in the nakshatra Uttaraphalguni. And I have this conjunction, Jupiter with Saturn in my D9, house 12, Pisces ... Jupiter in Purva Bhadrapada and Saturn (R) in Revati. I don't identify with almost anything I said.
Thank you for this vivid description. Would this also apply if both Jupiter and Saturn are aspecting each other, like the 7th aspect? And what if either or both are retrograde? Or if one is nicha?
Hi Ryan, I have this aspect in my 9th house cusp but I think the influence is more in effect with my parents this way, they have very strong beliefs and ideas. Wheras I don't as much, other than I'm always investigating the origins of different belief systems. Thanks for the thoughtful insight into this! I will have to get your book, is it on amazon?
I feel f'd then lol. I've Jupiter & Saturn conjunct in Aries, with Saturn nearing its highest debilitation point at 18 degrees. My only saving grace could be that both mars and moon influence my Jupiter and Saturn & being a cancer lagna, they are both beneficial lol
Hello rayan I had Jupiter sun and Saturn together in Virgo sign 11house. Jupiter in lowest 0 degree , Saturn 7degree and sun 11 degree . What does this effect in my life ? I had good relationships with my brother and as far as friends I don't have too many close friends at all. Plz reply 🙏🏻
I don't have any of that from my Jupiter. I believe he's highly influenced. Sat R in my tenth. Yes that's all I see. Deep down inside someone stole who I was as a kid... so idk who I truly am. I'm more of a hider. Yes I can talk the talk but when it comes to me walking the walk I don't do it. See my hb has that validation within him. I have Volume 1. Jupiter in my 6th w Sun Rahu. Sat R in Taurus in the 11th. I've been working through this for 2yrs. Yep you are DEAD ON!!!! Your right. I don't understand my therapist a lot. I need many examples. This sounds more like my mom or dad. Thanks Ryan I love new things. This is my dad.
So does Jesus Christ and sugar ray Robinson which many regard as the best boxer who ever lived in starting realize that people with this combination have the capacity to do great things in their life which may make a change in human history. Also depends on their chart but it may be one bi factor since Jupiter + Saturn is called the great conjunction and many at time whenever these planets meet big shifts of change happen.
It can be heavy trauma and conditioning to be realised. Within the lifetime. Self realization. Overcoming obscuration of consciousness. Through penetrating the illusions of false self. I have multiple conjs in a stellium. Incl this one. It can appear dramatic to the incarnate experiencer.
I have Saturn/Jupiter conjunction in Libra right under my Ascendant. I used to be religiously fanatic when I was a teenger and in my early twenties, but after my Saturn return, I have become more open and objective with regards to the nature of beliefs.
I have saturn conjunct retro-jupiter in d60 in 2nd house. This to me means a disciplined fundamentalist, biologist working to service the comunity or bigger agenda, dissects everything he reads, right or wrong and judgemental at that.. Since it's occurning in my d60, i can already see myself getting there from observing myself. The forces of karma are non-negotiable eh?
Hey Ryan, very interesting video. Can you give us little tidbits of the rest of the houses? Also, I would like to know more about Krishnamurty, can you post a pic of the book? Thanks.
If as mentioned in the thread Jupiter DB does not hurt Saturn much what if Jupiter is exalted conjunct Saturn in 11 th house? Does exaltation increase malefic effect or capacity to go through hardship? ( less then 1 defree apart)
hello there..jupiter retrograde at 10 degree and saturn retrograde at 2 degree in the 9th house in sign of venus ..worried abt it a lot after listening to you.
This guy is all doom and gloom, maybe he learnt a few "tricks" from Indian astrologers. If you want good quality research on Astrology, instead of this guy making stuff up as he goes along, watch the KRS channel and Dr. Arjun Pai. They are on a completely different level, this guy is making things up.
I have this combination. I love it! It has several aspects. But you didn't highlight its spiritual potential if well highlighted. For example I have it in leo so gives jupiter extra benefic. This can allow Jupiter to work towards leadership very patiently with growing knowledge. Thanks Brother!!!!
If Jupiter holds lowest degree he will boost and expand Saturn's structure and dedication. If Saturn holds lowest degree he will restrict Jupiter's ability for expansion.
"We need to be conscientious and careful whilst describing this combination." Proceeds to describe only negative things based on anecdotal generalizations that aren't accurate at all. Dharmapati & Karmapati conjunction; it's a Raja Yoga, and all that you are describing are negative things!
As this is just pure speculation, let me put my 2 cents in as well. BPHS says that Saturn conjunct Jupiter cannot do harm. It will NOT harm the native. Guru is the wisest and most benefic planet and Shani is neutral towards Guru. Therefore it will be easy for Guru to handle Shani and control him. Similarly, Shani will affect Guru in certain ways, for example by making sure the native is fully prepared before launching off, which, if just Guru, would be very probable.
Expansion and contraction. Shani will constrict and make the native work hard, then Guru will multiply that by 10 (expansion) and give results. So if other people work 1 day and get 1x results, the native with this conjunction will get 10x results only by working 1 day.
Other texts also mention that the native will be equal to a king and WILL rule in some capacity or the other. It's logical as these natives NEVER give up. It's simply not in their vocabulary. As Saturn is there, he will make the native work hard and might delay in giving the results, but when it is time to give, Jupiter is there to multiply it ten fold.
Maybe you need to dial it back with the doom and gloom :)
@Brain Nerd At least there is that!
If other people work 1 day and get 1x results, the native with this conjunction will get 10x results only by working 1 day. - totally relate to this statement. I have this conjunction and I experience this all the time in my life. Relate to other points you made as well. Thanks for your comment.
Wisely said!here which planet honding the higher degree and the closeness og conjunction,the house they are placed,dignity of nakshetra load ect is not discussed! Cant put all these information in a nut shell!itvis a great combination!
Thank you...
I have saturn/Jupiter/sun/mercury/pluto in 4th house in Libra and further more rahu and Ketu in 1st and 7th house. Lol Lets say I am taking a back sit away from my life 😭😭😂 I may just go be a monk I guess 😂 As I grow older am learning to allow.
Damn, I have this combination in my D9 chart in cancer and rahu sun in aries in my D1 first house...no wonder you didn't get to me first time lol Ryan
I have 9th house and 10th house exchange between Saturn and Jupiter this makes a kendradhpati raj yoga.
I have Jupiter opposite Saturn and Krisnamurti is my favorite modern Philosopher... I think you are a great astrologer but sometimes you're giving me the impression that you try hard to put thinks in boxes and you forget to think outside of them... Still admiring you as an astrologer
Somehow, it doesn’t match with me at all.
This combo is in my 12th house of D1.
I am no religious fanatic, there was NO talk about religion in my house ever. My parents and grandparents are nonbelievers.
However, I am very spiritual, since childhood, something that I recently discovered (I am in my early 40s).
I am neither depressed nor unhappy. I am content with or without friends, with or without people ☺️
Unfortunately, I don’t understand people who are depressed or cry baby types. Got no patience with them
Oh my God I have the conjunction in my 4th house Virgo , partner has it in 3rd, in synastrey y’all four of them are 1 degree apart . Started my awakening back in 2018 Saturns definitely taking over losing hope .I have no purpose, my life was really good I even got a house on my Saturn return I don’t know what happened. I can definitely put myself in other people shoes and see their points of view though. Wow dude that’s not me at all you got a remember that it’s not just all about Jupiter and Saturn being together you got a look at the whole chart, Besides that I’m a Pisces sun, mars, Venus , MC Cancer moon and rising Cancer, I am nowhere near as stiff and As is daddy Saturn, and I love counseling by the way.
I have this tightly conjunct in my third house. Been a software developer for a long time and good at it. Despise talking to people who shows me a lack of logic, I will just destroy them or just shut them out XD cos I have tried talking to them and a majority of people showed me they have no common sense. Eg, I was making close to 6 figures living in Asia and dum dumbs from my home country wanted me to go back to a slave job for 1000/mth just cos of culture norm. Years of that BS makes me short tempered against dum dumbs that wants to bother me in anyway whatsoever with their illogical ish. This experience took me a long time to digest and express it cos it never made any sense.
The pessimistic part is spot on. I have both Jupiter and Saturn in my Taurus ascendant. Sometimes I feel like I'm a Capricorn
Very true..I have had such bad experiences in life that it has stopped me from thinking postive .I have a track record of not getting of whatever I ever wanted..I am currently in last phase of the 16 year Rahu Mahadasha ..and I have been told that the last years I will have ,would be the most toughest period.. Life has humbled me multiple times ...I hope everything starts to change
Mr predictor, not fanatic but logical and rational. Makes you wise from inner self.
A client has Guru in trikona Vth bhava glancing at Shani Maharaja in upachaya XIth bhava.
He is fairly prosperous with many rice fields, wives and elephants.
What are all the possibile ways of them combining?
Hi Ryan, I have this not as a conjunction but in opposition. The mutual 7th aspect is to the exact degree. Was I misinformed when I thought this was a good opposition to have?
It's good for your Saturn.
So damn accurate! My dad has this in 9th house in Sagittarius
Hi Ryan, I have a very close conjunction(a planetary war) between Jup and Sat in my 12th house, I wouldnt describe myself as a fanatic but looking back over the years I do think there were streaks of stubborn beliefs when I was younger but still not a fanatic, anyway even those are gone after I crossed 30. I had my encounter with Ramana Maharshi and later with J Krishnamurti and have to say love and respect both of them. Contrary to your thought that this conjunction between Jupiter and Saturn would keep someone away from a teacher like J Krishnamurti, I think it is actually responsible to make me take to him so well and his directness. I always feel the balancing of the two planets Jupiter and Saturn within myself, never getting me too low or too high.
I have this one, also with Venus conjunct, and you are right related the issue with trying so hard to believe in something and then trying to make others believe that, or at least be a very ardent supporter of that belief, but ultimately it's very difficult for me to have a belief that I could stick to. I somehow can see that no belief is the ultimate "truth" so it's very hard to commit to anything.
Also true regarding depression, I've been dealing with that all my life on and off.
What I find helpful with this combination is that it's sort of a seesaw, it's always up - down - up -down, and it can get intense, but even in the darkest times there is still that Jupiter that doesn't let me lose hope completely, compared to other people, who might not have this aspect and maybe they don't go through many depressive episodes, but when they have one, they might lose all hope more easily than us.
🥲 the amount of rejection , failures, hardships ,mockery I have faced in life is unbelievable .I have anxiety and depression ,I wanted to take my life when i was in 8th grade since then it has been a non stop battle with failures.i would always think why am I going through all of this..I am just a kid..what could I have possibly done wrong..I stopped to trust anyone..my father used to beat the living crap out of me everytime.and I would always get into trouble in my school days.i was bullied ,made fun of.. With zero to little succces even after putting 1000% percent effort.i can totally relate to it..i have kinda become emotionless .I hardly remember when was the last time when I was truly happy.🥲
I always hear negative things about Saturn. Sometimes I wonder how can Saturn give us positive results when it is associated with all the negative things. I know it gives discipline, structure etc. But mostly the negative things. As always amazing video. Thanks Ryan.
Ryan I was born under the Jupiter nashaktras. Do you mean Saturn/Jupiter conjunction or in the same house? I can take constructive criticism always.
i have jupiter and saturn in my first house...with virgo ascendant.😥
Mine too
I have this conjunction in my D1, Jupiter with Saturn (R) in the 5th house, Virgo, in the nakshatra Uttaraphalguni. And I have this conjunction, Jupiter with Saturn in my D9, house 12, Pisces ... Jupiter in Purva Bhadrapada and Saturn (R) in Revati. I don't identify with almost anything I said.
Born in 1981?
You can actually bring a sense of compassion… thank you for sharing
Thank you for this vivid description. Would this also apply if both Jupiter and Saturn are aspecting each other, like the 7th aspect? And what if either or both are retrograde? Or if one is nicha?
does this apply to conjunction in navamsha too? thanks
Namaste Ryan Sir. Sir are you practicing Yukteshwara ayanamsha ? Please reply🙏
Hi Ryan, I have this aspect in my 9th house cusp but I think the influence is more in effect with my parents this way, they have very strong beliefs and ideas. Wheras I don't as much, other than I'm always investigating the origins of different belief systems. Thanks for the thoughtful insight into this! I will have to get your book, is it on amazon?
Those points make sense. Yes, it is.
I feel f'd then lol. I've Jupiter & Saturn conjunct in Aries, with Saturn nearing its highest debilitation point at 18 degrees. My only saving grace could be that both mars and moon influence my Jupiter and Saturn & being a cancer lagna, they are both beneficial lol
Jupiter is going to help Saturn, and Saturn being DB will not hurt Jupiter too much, and those other planets you mentioned are very good.
Hello rayan I had Jupiter sun and Saturn together in Virgo sign 11house. Jupiter in lowest 0 degree , Saturn 7degree and sun 11 degree . What does this effect in my life ? I had good relationships with my brother and as far as friends I don't have too many close friends at all. Plz reply 🙏🏻
I am Scorpio 🤗 1981
@@amutedlightsurrealism6881 same
I don't have any of that from my Jupiter. I believe he's highly influenced. Sat R in my tenth. Yes that's all I see. Deep down inside someone stole who I was as a kid... so idk who I truly am. I'm more of a hider. Yes I can talk the talk but when it comes to me walking the walk I don't do it.
See my hb has that validation within him.
I have Volume 1. Jupiter in my 6th w Sun Rahu. Sat R in Taurus in the 11th. I've been working through this for 2yrs. Yep you are DEAD ON!!!!
Your right. I don't understand my therapist a lot. I need many examples. This sounds more like my mom or dad. Thanks Ryan
I love new things. This is my dad.
Obama has this combination in the Asc in Capricorn.
So does Jesus Christ and sugar ray Robinson which many regard as the best boxer who ever lived in starting realize that people with this combination have the capacity to do great things in their life which may make a change in human history. Also depends on their chart but it may be one bi factor since Jupiter + Saturn is called the great conjunction and many at time whenever these planets meet big shifts of change happen.
Ryan that's my dad.. I don't even know his chart.
It can be heavy trauma and conditioning to be realised. Within the lifetime. Self realization. Overcoming obscuration of consciousness. Through penetrating the illusions of false self. I have multiple conjs in a stellium. Incl this one. It can appear dramatic to the incarnate experiencer.
I have Saturn/Jupiter conjunction in Libra right under my Ascendant. I used to be religiously fanatic when I was a teenger and in my early twenties, but after my Saturn return, I have become more open and objective with regards to the nature of beliefs.
Triple conjunction if Jupiter Saturn RETROGRADE LIBRA , 1981 ,
GREATEST CONJUNCTION,
SZYGY,
8 RETROGRADE ASPECTS,
your dissertation is inaccurate friend .
Houses ruled by Jupiter will be in trouble?
I have saturn conjunct retro-jupiter in d60 in 2nd house. This to me means a disciplined fundamentalist, biologist working to service the comunity or bigger agenda, dissects everything he reads, right or wrong and judgemental at that..
Since it's occurning in my d60, i can already see myself getting there from observing myself. The forces of karma are non-negotiable eh?
what if mercury is exalted in 9th, will this combo be less fanatical?
Depends on who is better situated Jupiter or Saturn.
Isn't Jupiter and Saturn conjunction in 4thH called Brahma Yoga? I agree with your description, but how does this fit in? Please advise.
Does this work for jupiter and saturn mutual aspect also? I have saturn and jupiter mutual aspect in D1, D9 and D10 charts.....
Okay dude can you please stop laughing all through the video. It sounds like you are laughing at someone's weaknesses! Please don't do that.
Hey Ryan, very interesting video. Can you give us little tidbits of the rest of the houses? Also, I would like to know more about Krishnamurty, can you post a pic of the book? Thanks.
What if saturn in Capricorn at 7 deg and jupiter in cancer at 11 deg mutaul aspect..Aquarius ascendant
Could you please make a video about the meaning of the upcoming Jupiter Saturn Ketu conjunction in Sagittarius
What happens if Saturn is debilitated and is in conjunction with Jupiter in 9th house for Leo lagna?
Finding you on RUclips is a great blessing to my life sir!🙏🏽
Does this apply to a trine aspect? When Saturn is fifth from Jupiter
Excellent video though, I have found myself studying kristnamurti as of late lol, funny coincidence
What if both of them are retrograde (in 12th house)?
juipter will still support satrun if both are placed in Capricorn
If as mentioned in the thread Jupiter DB does not hurt Saturn much what if Jupiter is exalted conjunct Saturn in 11 th house? Does exaltation increase malefic effect or capacity to go through hardship? ( less then 1 defree apart)
Yes, but it usually does so by putting someone through difficulty, so then they learn how to deal with it.
+Ryan Kurczak thank you
I feel what u said is true. Bang on
hello there..jupiter retrograde at 10 degree and saturn retrograde at 2 degree in the 9th house in sign of venus ..worried abt it a lot after listening to you.
This guy is all doom and gloom, maybe he learnt a few "tricks" from Indian astrologers. If you want good quality research on Astrology, instead of this guy making stuff up as he goes along, watch the KRS channel and Dr. Arjun Pai. They are on a completely different level, this guy is making things up.
I have this combination. I love it! It has several aspects. But you didn't highlight its spiritual potential if well highlighted. For example I have it in leo so gives jupiter extra benefic. This can allow Jupiter to work towards leadership very patiently with growing knowledge. Thanks Brother!!!!
; )
If Jupiter holds lowest degree he will boost and expand Saturn's structure and dedication. If Saturn holds lowest degree he will restrict Jupiter's ability for expansion.
Bulls eye.. !!
Thank you for the video, Ryan!
I'll let you know for sure
Well concluded Ryan.
Thank you
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