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Tire review: Michelin X-Ice Snow - 2020, new snow & ice tires
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- Опубликовано: 28 дек 2020
- New for 2019 & 2020, Michelin X-Ice Snow tires provide excellent snow & ice traction in the worst of weather. This hands-on review summarizes some of the highlights of this tire, with some notes comparing this tire to some other budget or competitor models.
P245-45/R20 size on 2010 Toyota Venza AWD
Driven during sub-zero snowstorm in southern WI, USA. Tires have been broken in with 10k miles prior to shooting this video.
Enjoy!
I have Micheline X ice snow tires on my 13 Camry (2wd). In the last month, I have been driving them through 6 to 8 inches of snow (in Canada) and roads with black ice and hard packed snow and ice. These tires perform extremely well in severe winter conditions.
How they do on the highway like at 80-100 km?
@@XCircaX No problem at all. They do well in slush, snow and freezing rain.
@@davidcampbell1899 thanks buddy
@@XCircaX They are indistinguishable from an all-season tire on dry pavement highway driving at up to 130km/h can confirm.
@@billyhw5492 thanks I did purchase a set back in December
The Michelin X-Ice Xi3's were the best tires I ever owned. And they lasted forever without losing a beat. Recently upgraded to the new X-Ice Snow and they are just as great.
Glad to hear Billy! I agree. They are all fantastic tires and the newest X-Ice snow was definitely the best in my opinion.
на зимний сезон 2019-2020 купил Continental ice contact 3 (металлический шип в 16 радиусе). Шина классная: разгоняется, тормозит отлично, по прямой и на трассе ведёт себя уверенно, в повороты тоже закладывает «как надо», по сугробам гребёт хорошо. Плавность хода - отличная: шина хорошо «сглаживает» мелкие, средние и крупные неровности дороги. Не шумная ... но мне тишины не хватило. Продал. На сезон 2020-2021 купил новую модель липучки michelin x ice snow - откатал сезон уверенно, предсказуемо, очень комфортно!!! Теперь своей зимней резиной я полностью доволен и не жалею ни одного рубля потраченного на эти шины.
P.S. Размерность 205*55*R16, машина тойота авенсис 2008 г.в. Регион эксплуатации - г. Пермь, морозы в среднем до минус 25-30 градусов. Всем спасибо, возможно кому то этот отзыв будет полезен!!!
Спасибо за ваш комментарий! Я рад слышать, что переход на шины Michelin пошел вам на пользу! Бьюсь об заклад, в вашем регионе должно быть много снега, поэтому приятно знать, что у вас отличный опыт работы с Michelin. Езди осторожно!
U sold me! WS80s were on its last legs and Costco has a black Friday sale! Thanks!
Sold! Thanks for this very informative video & thanks for your personal expertise & advice. I'm writing in Oct. 2021 & right now there's a good Michelin rebate too ($70.00 on 4 new winter tires)
You're welcome! Glad I could help. That's a great discount too!
This is my first winter tire I got last winter. I bought it after doing a lot of research. Last winter was pretty decent and didn’t have a good chance to test these tires but this winter I have had in on all kinds of icy and snowy roads .. compared my all seasons these tires are awesome. I am able to drive atleasr 10 km per hour faster than all seasons and I can see the braking distance is excellent.
What’s really shocking for me is these give me better mileage ( may be cause the tire size is 17 to compared to 19 for all seasons ) and way more quieter than my all season tires. That’s shoscking because I was told winter tires are loud.
I was reallly confused between these and blizzak but I think I made a good decision going for these
The Michelins will last longer than the Blizzaks and maintain performance longer. You might be getting better mileage because your spinning your wheels less in the ice and snow. Just my theory.
You are right about guys in jacked up trucks not understanding the science of snow tires.
Nice video. I just ordered these from Belle tire for my ‘20 Camry AWD. Really excited to see the difference in these MI winters. The factory all seasons made me feel so sloppy in the snow
What’s your opinion now that you have some MI winter experience with them?
@@Roguedaisey still waiting lol
Great video. Thanks! I’m a blizzak guy and think they are the best, but I’m going to get my girlfriend a pair of these x ice snows after watching your video! She already wanted to try them, but this sealed the deal for me.
Great to hear, Jonah! I will say the Blizzaks handle very well too, but after a while when they wear down below the winter rubber compound, their performance drop off quick. If Bridgestone could revamp their winter rubber compound to 100% of usable tread life, I think they would have a real winner.
Replaced 2 sets of Nokians (Volvo S60T5 and Chevy Tahoe) with Michelin X-ice SNOW and they are the best winter tire I've had. BTW, I've had 4 winter tires on any vehicle I owned since 1967. Yes, I'm that old and still kicking tires in Canada.
Great to hear Richard! We get some pretty bad snow here, but probably nothing quite like Canada (depending on where exactly you're from). I've heard good things about the Nokians, but it sounds like you're more happy with the change to the Michelins - good to know! Cheers.
Nice video. Just wished to have seen you drive in 2 to 5 inches of snow rather than plowed roads with snow drifts. I understand for safety reasons not conducting the driving test in the city and keeping under 45 MPH plus braking straight away. Night-time driving is tough so for you doing so is a plus while in a rural area with basically no traffic. Overall, can't complain as Safety is the number One rule. I was going to get the Blizzak WS90, however with deeper threads would produce more noise, and as mentioned Blizzak wears faster around 30 to 35K vs Michelin warranty of 40K. Much has to do with each winter season, with climate changes we do not know if we get a cold or warmer than usual, or how much snow will accumulate for the winter season. I would love to have 45-degree winters with little snow that just melts away throughout the day. I believe that since I drive less than 5k miles in the winter that the X-Ice Snow will last me 4 to 6 winters even though winters have been rather milder in central New York State. Remember to properly store the Snow tires during the Off Season otherwise, you get so-call Dry-Rot. Most people should get new tires within 3 to 5 years. Tires that are 7 or 8 years generally have deteriorated sidewalls and the composition of materials has aged making them unsafe regardless if you have 10 miles to 40,000 miles ..old tires are bad tires. My X-Ice Snow 215/55R16 cost $183 USD each. I have a 2022 Honda Civic Touring that came with OEM Goodyear Eagle Sport All-Season on 18-inch wheels which are mediocre tires at best and terrible (hazardous) in heavy rain downpours or light snow of more than 1/4 inch. The Eagle Sport has great performance on dry pavement and that is about all. Went with 16-inch wheels for winter because more sidewall protects filth from damaging the rotors and pads and caliper. I have no issues with my 2018 Toyota RAV4 Limited AWD with Pirelli Scorpion Plus 3 All-Season as it rides higher and is AWD which helps.
Interesting review. I bought the X-Ice 2 brand new for my Mazda CX-5 (FWD) and it was horrendous in even 1 inch of snow - was slipping and sliding. It was so bad i sold them after a couple of months. A different tire dealer said they've had many complaints and tho they carried Michelin, they NEVER recommended Michelin WINTER tires (bought my Michelin Primacy Tour A/S from them and really impressed - excellent tire). They recommended the Nokian Hakka R3 SUV and 10x better than the Michelins (It does seem the X-Ice SNOWS have a more aggressive and more similar in design to my Nokians however). Sticking with Micheline A/S and Nokian R3/R5 for winters.
I have the CC2s and they're amazing in winter and will last 85K miles real-world. Michelin reigns supreme.
I also have cc and cc2 for several years now in several cars. They’re much better than reg all season tires in the snow. But no where as good as my prior blazzak. I have a lot of hills in my area and the cc would struggle to go up the hills and traction control constantly flashing - even my inclined driveway. I never had any issues w the bizzak. Debating if I should go thru the hassle of dedicated winter tires as I’m lazy and now I avoid driving in the snow.
Currently have the Blizzaks on my 2019 4runner second winter on the tread. I'm either going back to the Nokian or I'm thinking hard about these Michelins. Main reason for switching from the Bridgestone's is the loss of traction on wet roads. I get more wet roads and ice where I live. I have been happy with the Nokian R3 in the past, may try the R5 or these michelin's.
I got these for my 2021 RAV4 Hybrid put on today. Thanks for the advice!
Are yours 17inch or 18 ??
@@CanadaDelite 17"
Don’t they recommend 18inch ? And did you got from dealership or Costco?
@@CanadaDelite I just went to Canadian Tire to get them. The 17" rims will save you money when you go to buy the tires. 17" is what they recommend and they work great! Where I live we got 48cm of snow in 1 day and I was able to get around all day no problem.
I'll have to try these. My Nokian WRG4 SUVs are due for replacement for next winter so I still have time to research and decide. Like you I have tried Blizzak DM-V1, DM-V2, Xice 2, and also Yokohama Ice Guards so I'm very particular about my family's tires here in Northern Wisconsin. Stay safe my friend!
I'm waiting for the Hakka R5. Nokian's are strong as hell - much more durable than Michelins.
Just ordered them for my Venza and found your video lol
Haha, club Venza! I hope they work well for you. Drive safe!
I have a RRS almost identical to yours ( I have black seats). I went with Falkin AT3 trail for my yr round tire. Its three peak and good enough off road and on road. I enjoy your channel
And you're totally bang on the money about the performance decline when the Blizzaks are on their final seasons
I have bad experiences with michelin as well as my friends. They get damaged very easily and will be sliced from the side or threaded surface if you hit anything not even hardly. I am going towards Bridgestones both for my car and suv ws90 and DMV2. Although these new xive snows look more sturdier than xi3s… also seems to have more thread depth which is very important legally here in Quebec with harsh winters -30ish
Thanks for sharing your experience 👍
I've had nothing but great experiences with Michelin tires, both winter and all season. Used them for 10 years now. Phenomenal tread life, performance, and very durable. Never had any issues with them even after experiencing some curb rash. Any tire will fail if you hit the sidewall hard enough. That's the weak point.
Living in Ottawa, I found X-Ice (2014 version) unable to get traction during snowy -30c conditions with a slight incline on the road using front wheel drive.
Blizzak in such conditions just grips. Big difference in my experience.
But if you don’t live in Quebec or Ottawa (heavy snow and -30c winters, same tires might perform differently.
Update: my 2014 x-ice was non-directional. I heard the directional version is amazing with traction.
Thank you for your input! I can't say I ever stressed mine hard enough on the sidewall to have a failure, but it would be interesting to see a comparison between brands to see who has the best resistance there. Regardless of brand, the sidewall is always the weakest/thinnest part of any tire. Let us know if the Bridgestones hold up any better!
Get the Nokian Hakka R3! They're indestructable over Chicago potholes! Supposedly they have bulletproof kevlar that makes them so strong.
Nice video. I usually run Blizzaks (I’ve had the ws70, & 80 & 90 on 3 cars) but I think I’ll try these out next. I like the idea of sustaining traction even towards the end of tread life which seems to be different than how a Blizzak wears over time.
How does the blizzak ws90 compare to the x-snow? How’s the wear as well for both ?
Any feedback on the x-Ice vs blizzaks? Thx
I live in manitoba where it's bitterly cold and snows like crazy. I am buying these this week and picking these over Blizzak and Continental tru contact. Am I making the right choice? Thanks
I've driven rear-drive cars in Northeast Ohio winters for many years. Even cheap-ass snow tires made them completely viable winter options, and both cars had atrocious weight distribution(97 Thunderbird 4.6, 04 Mustang GT vert), around 58/42 for both. I can only imagine what a more balanced rear-drive car like a current Mustang(52/48 for a GT) would do with a set of these amazing tires. Unless you're a total bonehead of a driver, anything
I definitely agree Nicholas! I've always said that a cheap pair of winter tires is always better than none. I recall back to my mechanic days, we worked on a lot of the Crown Victoria platform, used a lot by the taxi's and police. Their weight balance was terrible, and the back-end hardly had traction on the snow and ice. The taxi's finally put winter tires on them after enough convincing from us, and they began to handle a lot better. Like you said, I can imagine the more modern cars with better weight distribution would excel pretty well with a set of decent winter tires. The 52/48 on the Mustang is impressive! I'm not sure how they pull off such an even balance on that platform, but that is pretty good.
Thanks for the video! I'm going to order now.
I am 'satisfied' with X-Ice Xi3, but honestly next time around I will probably go with the blizzaks. I'd say in my experience they were better, imo.
The Blizzaks are a nice choice. The only downside about the Blizzaks is the winter compound doesn't extend throughout the full usable tread life. So, at about 40-50% left, they'll lose a lot of traction. If they change it up and make the winter compound all the way, I think the Blizzaks would really dominate! Either way, I think the Blizzaks are a good winter option overall, and have generally excellent performance. Thanks for your comment Adam!
Excellent tires
Well now conflicted between these and the Continental Viking 7.
The most important aspect to me is performance and safety in snow, ice, slush as I live in northeast Pennsylvania.
I can deal with some road noise if the safety and performance is worth it.
Thoughts?????
After trying each tire for more than a complete season, I am surprised to say that my favor has switched to the VikingContact 7. The performance was nearly identical to the Michelins, and perhaps more surprisingly, so was the rate of wear.
Since the Continentals come in less expensive, with the same feature and wear, I’ll be going with them again this season. Perhaps an added bonus, as I frequently do, I ran the winter tires straight through summer. The Continentals were much less spongy in hot weather and held up surprisingly well. I didn’t think I’d recommend another brand over the Michelins, but I’d say their both matched on all performance & wear aspects.
Since I’ll buy a new set every year, at the start of winter, the Continentals are pricing a cost-saving option. I’d choose the Michelins instead by a slim margin of preference, if price wasn’t a factor though, but they are both just so close in every other way.
So happy with amount road noise especially on dry roads? They handle slush well?? Thinking of the snow, rain, freeze, ice, thaw, wet, slush we get in spring.
@@francescoffeebooksmusic5256 yes, road noise is very minimal, I’d say non-existent, even on dry roads. I’ve definitely ridden on some very noisy winter tires before, but both the Contact 7 and Michelins are almost completely quiet.
Both handle various conditions above average. Slush is always a tough condition for any tire as it has a tendency to pack in the tire and cause a sliding condition, almost like an aggravated hydroplane. The Contact 7’s do pretty good, although I’d say the Michelins tread pattern is just a slight bit better at slush extraction. But, the difference is minimal. Snow and ice traction for both is excellent and industry leading at this time.
Thanks for the video. Would you consider worth upgrade to X-Ice Snow if you already own X-Ice 3? What would be the major difference in your experience?
You’re welcome George. Thanks for watching! The X-Ice 3’s are also excellent tires- I’ve put many miles on several sets. The X-Ice 3’s have better water and wet slush shedding due to their solid center ribs. Consequently though, they have slightly less snow traction. The X-Ice Snow has slightly better overall dry snow traction. I’d recommend you buy for which best suites most of your driving conditions. Both are exceptional and safe tires.
@@droningaround7663 Thanks for the reply. Have you try the Crossclimate 2 yet? If so, what are your thoughts especially compare with the X-Ice 3 / Snow?
i’m debating between this tire, the blizzaks, and the continental vikings or winter contacts. I live in ohio and got an awd car and the run flats are just embarassing my awd making me slide all over
It’s a lot to consider! I actually made the move to the Continental Viking Contact 7 this year, and I am super impressed! So far, I’d say they are every bit on par with the Michelins, if not better. I’m not sure if the Continentals will last as long as the Michelins, however I am not disappointed at all with the switch. The Continentals are priced much cheaper and are great quality too. I’d say either are great! I’m still not a fan of the Blizzaks since they lose the winter blend rubber so fast. I will say, the Michelins did hold up incredibly well last year though. I literally drove them into the ground, about 25,000 miles, straight through summer and they wore and held on all the way until December, 2021. I don’t condone or recommend driving on winter tires during the summer, but I can’t imagine anything other than a Michelin making it through that!
@@droningaround7663 I've been driving on Xi3 year round for the last 8 years, and actually I do recommend it, compared to driving year round on all-seasons, if you life anywhere that gets a few weeks of snow or more.
I had actually bought an extra set of wheels to do the summer/winter swapping plan, but when I got lazy about when to switch over, I realized that the Xi3 is perfectly fine in summer also. So, I decided to do the experiment to see how long they would last without switching. The answer was well over 50K miles, so I decided to not swap winter/summer on that 2005 Prius, just always run Xi3.
When I bought a new Prius Prime in September 2017, by the time I had 700 miles on the stock 195/65R15 89S Toyo all seasons, I replaced them with Xi3 205/65R15 XL 99T. That gave me 1/4 inch of badly-needed extra ground clearance, and running them at 50psi all the time gives even more. I can't officially recommend it, but personally I am totally done giving any credibility to car-maker inflation pressures.
In May 2018, on an 8300 mile road trip out west, in NV, I discovered that my car rev-limits very smoothly at 104mph indicated to protect an electric motor from overspeeding. The tires made me feel like the car was driving on rails and would do anything I wanted, even in desert heat.
In AZ, I discovered that no car could keep up with me or prevent me from passing on one of the twistiest mountain roads in the country, through Salt River Canyon. I spent probably 80% of a 20 minute stretch, in 105F heat, either at full throttle or under moderate or hard braking, through countless hairpin turns, high-speed turns, and ascents/descents of thousands of feet elevation. A Mustang, Maxima, and apparently lowered/chipped V6 Accord could not believe that a Prius (Prime) either outran them or made them actually pull off the road with their brakes smoking after I just followed them as they went faster and faster to try showing me they're faster, which they weren't. Regenerative braking was the biggest difference, saving my brakes, not that my own friction brakes weren't getting quite a workout. But it was clear that I also had a tire advantage on all 3 of them also. On snow tires.
So, you'd think those snow tires would be smoked by 15K miles. Nope. They lasted 63K miles despite that extreme thrashing in desert heat, and a few other cases of "spirited driving." 90% of the time, I drive like a Prius driver. 10% of the time, I'm either in a hurry to cover a lot of ground on a trip (up to 1050 miles in a day on a 28-day trip in 2021). I'll admit that I sometimes like educating "fast" car owners about how they're not beating my 54mpg car off the line in snow, around a corner in the summer, or onto the highway on a curvy uphill 2-lane ramp. On snow tires. Even a 535iX needs to absolutely floor it if they want to pass me before we're going 80, once I get one car length on them off the line, which not many cars can prevent even if they get a jump on me.
Right now, I'm ready for a new set on the Prime, and with the Xi3 (much less the Xi Snow) being $5xx to $7xx per set, I'm absolutely on the fence about getting VikingContact 7 (I found a new set for $474 when it's close to $600 most places) versus trying my luck with Kelly Winter Access for $254/set. That's partly an anomaly of one of the two sizes I like being priced inexplicably low relative to other sizes. With Kelly owned by Goodyear since 1935, I'm wondering if at least a little bit of X-Ice tech has made its way into the Kelly snows. Between curiosity and the bargain, I'm leaning toward doing the experiment. If I don't like them, I can put the Vikings on the other set of wheels, and swap them to use up the cheapos under easy conditions.
I had a really good experience with Kellys in the 1980s, when I got tired of burning up sets of expensive Goodyear Eagle GT+4 quickly on my Merkur XR4Ti, and got a set of Kellys to save 50% or whatever, and they ended up being surprisingly good and outlasting the Eagles too.
Thanks Man
Great video. You're very insightful and it's nice to see you showcasing them in such bad weather. Any thoughts on the Vikingcontact 7 compared to the X-Ice Snow? I was already leaning away from Blizzak's for the inferior tread life, but given that I have a 2016 Jetta and not an AWD or 4x4, I would need any extra help with grip on ice and snow that I can get. I'm in NYC and we usually have 1-2 decent blizzards per year with additional snow throughout the season but nothing crazy. I'm also gonna be taking 10 or so 500-700 mile round trips to Vermont to snowboard so I would probably be putting 6-7k miles on my car every winter.
Hi Rob! This might be a very late reply, but worth following up on. Actually prior to seeing this comment, I made the change to the Viking Contact 7's this year! I am extremely impressed with the overall performance, and overall now that I have a couple thousand miles on them, I'd say they perform just a tad better than the Michelin X-ice. I'm guessing the Continentals won't last as long as the Michelins, but I'll find that out this year as I put more miles on them. What I have noticed about the Viking Contact 7 is that they handle snow and slush a bit better than the Michelins. Overall ice grip seems to be about equal. Perhaps the best feature is that the Continentals are priced so much cheaper than the Michelins. I just hope they hold up with the mileage.
@@droningaround7663thanks for the feedback. How about dry and wet performance? I live near NYC and it seems likes we’ve been getting less snow - just mostly wet rain and dry roads w the occasional snow.
@@Wasabi9111 regular road contact driving is pretty standard. DO expect a sloppier steering feel if the temps are above freezing, especially when the tires are new and have lots of tread, but the steering feel will firm up as the tread wears or the temps fall below freezing. This year, 2024, I went back to these same Michelin tires again and am happy. Thanks for watching!
Excellent video. I'm a Southern Cali guy, who likes to occasionally drive to the local ski resort. But, i'm super nervous on icy roads. Would buying studded winter tires be excessive?
yes, if your really worried get some tire chains/ grippers to keep in the trunk if required
I have a brand new set of Michelin Defender M+S tires on my 4x4 truck. Would it be worth spending the money on these tires? Is there a considerable difference? Thanks.
Yes, worth the upgrade. The Defenders are excellent all season tires, but all seasons are essentially just “okay” in all seasons. What they lack primarily is the softer winter compound and the smaller sipes in the tread pattern which grip much better on snow and ice. If you want optimal safety on snow and ice, literally any winter tire is an upgrade over any all-season tire, in most cases.
I should also note that my 1/2 ton truck had new all seasons, which I later switched out for the Michelin X-Ice 2 snow tires at that time. The snow tires were so much better! My snow and ice traction was a lot better, and panic stops or red light stops on icy days were much shorter. Even full-size trucks benefit from winter tires.
Which is best on ice, snow and wet xice 2 xice3 or xice snow?
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This model or Alpin 6?
4/32 is 1/8 much easier to understand!
I totally agree, Joe! In any other mention of measurements I’d shorten it up. But, in the automotive field, it is most common practice to always reference tread depth on the 32-scale. Sounds goofy, but it’s just the accepted norm. Thanks for watching!
I appreciate the Detailed Analysis of the Tires and All; However it would have been really nice if you could have Shown Us At The Start of The Video, The Actual Michelin Tires on Your Vehicle Right Before Getting Inside to Begin The Road Test. Otherwise, people could doubt you, and say that Any Tire Could Have Been On That Vehicle At The Time of Your Road Test. I personally Trust what you were saying, but people do like to have Proof of Such Things. Before Starting Such Test's, Please Remember To Show (video) the Actual Tires That You Are Testing; Or to many out there, you're Not Impressing Anyone With The Test. Photos, Videos & Pictures Are The Way To Go, Right Before Testing A Tire. Just offering my Keen Observation Here.
Also, I realize it was dark outside when you did the Test, but you still could have Used A Flashlight To Show The Actual Tires (Michelin X-Ice XI3) on the Vehicle. Then Jump Inside and Conduct The Test. Thanks.
I'll have to step up my game on the next review :). I actually just sort of shot this on a whim, as I was driving home and figured it was an excellent opportunity. I've been wanting to do a full review, with tire shots, drone shots, and maybe even a before and after season rundown. I'll save this for next year! Thanks for your suggestion!
I'll stick with my blizzaks.