Following Grenfell, LB Islington made grand statements about fire door and front door replacement programmes. All front doors in the block I live in would be replaced by October 2017. They also immediately put plastic Fire Door stickers on stairwell doors, which date from the 60's, even though these had been assessed by an expert as not being fire door quality. Since then, nothing. The door replacement programme has gone silent. No update has been issued, no project can be found which covers this issue. The best guess from a Liaison Officer at LBI is that some work may start at the end of 2019 however, it is not known whether the fire safety work will be included in any future project. I cannot find anyone from LBI who is prepared to discuss this. I live on the 23rd floor...
@@crappymeal Actually, yes. All stairwell doors were replaced end of 2019 early 20. Issues have been raised as the new doors blow open with the wind, so not as expected. All front door were replaced also, with wooden fire doors which have a heavy letterbox cover to prevent smoke from coming in from the lobby. Thanks for asking.
This has been an ongoing problem in the industry. The lack of regulations and the lack of policing those regulations as well as Designers and Architects choosing a product that might cost expensive but takes half the time to install. So many companies have made billions in profit from selling building products yet none are willing to use their profits for research and development of a safer product.
High rise buildings never use brick because, 1 the extra weight the actual building would have would therefore up the building cost to support it, 2 Time it takes would also up the cost. 3 in an earthquake you would have all those bricks raining down on people.
Government regulations aren't written to harm business. They are written as a consequence of harm conducted under the guise of business. Failure to enforce regulations places the responsibility of harm largely on the government.
Most if not all thermal insulating materials are flammable. Its on the exterior. Not the interior. Its like saying furniture doesn't meet standards of fire safety because it will burn in a fire. They are internal so even worse. Its nonsense. The fire starts inside the building and spreads to exterior and the cladding is the problem???? Wake up.
The problem with having exterior cladding that is flammable is that it can cause a fire at a tall building to spread upwards very quickly. Many buildings were designed so that I'd there was a fire in a unit, it will be contained to that unit only. Example Grenfell was designed this way. However a fire that started on the 4th floor which should have been contained spread really quickly upwards and was later found was caused by the cladding. Furniture being flammable is unavoidable, however cladding being flammable is.
Following Grenfell, LB Islington made grand statements about fire door and front door replacement programmes. All front doors in the block I live in would be replaced by October 2017. They also immediately put plastic Fire Door stickers on stairwell doors, which date from the 60's, even though these had been assessed by an expert as not being fire door quality. Since then, nothing. The door replacement programme has gone silent. No update has been issued, no project can be found which covers this issue. The best guess from a Liaison Officer at LBI is that some work may start at the end of 2019 however, it is not known whether the fire safety work will be included in any future project. I cannot find anyone from LBI who is prepared to discuss this. I live on the 23rd floor...
shocking beyond belief
any news on it?
@@crappymeal Actually, yes. All stairwell doors were replaced end of 2019 early 20. Issues have been raised as the new doors blow open with the wind, so not as expected. All front door were replaced also, with wooden fire doors which have a heavy letterbox cover to prevent smoke from coming in from the lobby. Thanks for asking.
@@BJonesUK no worries thanks for info
Why not just remove the cladding and leave it removed? Older buildings were designed without that cladding anyway.
The Insulation behind would be an eyesore.
have u lost 85% of ur brain
This has been an ongoing problem in the industry. The lack of regulations and the lack of policing those regulations as well as Designers and Architects choosing a product that might cost expensive but takes half the time to install. So many companies have made billions in profit from selling building products yet none are willing to use their profits for research and development of a safer product.
It's full of air pockets, acts just like a chimney fire! Uh, what's wrong with brick? And fire escapes? Sprinklers?
High rise buildings never use brick because, 1 the extra weight the actual building would have would therefore up the building cost to support it, 2 Time it takes would also up the cost. 3 in an earthquake you would have all those bricks raining down on people.
@@StanslaMichael concrete?
@@StanslaMichael there is no need for high rise residential buildings in the first place
I said there was no need for high-rise buildings, I didn't say there was no need for high-density building@@FowlorTheRooster1990
We never had fires before this cladding??? We don't have fires in Steel skyscrapers or brick houses?
Slightly concerning. Stumbled on this by accident and In one of the first shots is the Louisa Lawson building I work in 😬😬
Reynobond 55 they still sale this shit.
Government regulations aren't written to harm business. They are written as a consequence of harm conducted under the guise of business. Failure to enforce regulations places the responsibility of harm largely on the government.
WHY BEFORE NOT TESTING, NOW PROBLEM EVERY WHERE.
Most if not all thermal insulating materials are flammable. Its on the exterior. Not the interior. Its like saying furniture doesn't meet standards of fire safety because it will burn in a fire. They are internal so even worse. Its nonsense. The fire starts inside the building and spreads to exterior and the cladding is the problem???? Wake up.
The problem with having exterior cladding that is flammable is that it can cause a fire at a tall building to spread upwards very quickly. Many buildings were designed so that I'd there was a fire in a unit, it will be contained to that unit only. Example Grenfell was designed this way. However a fire that started on the 4th floor which should have been contained spread really quickly upwards and was later found was caused by the cladding. Furniture being flammable is unavoidable, however cladding being flammable is.