Ep. 153 - David Ellefson: Dave Mustaine is Fighting with Himself (The Truth About Being in Megadeth)
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- Опубликовано: 2 авг 2024
- David Ellefson (Ex-Megadeth / The Lucid / Ellefson-Soto) joins Benny, Siobhán, and Cory to touch base on the events of the last year, and the truth behind his departure from Megadeth. We dive into some Megadeth history reminiscing some of the band's early moments as well as some of the moments leading to David's exit. We get an update on some of David's current projects, and some funny tour stories to tie it all together. All this and more tune in with us and prepare to be 2020'd.
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00:00 - Intro
03:10 - Dave Mustaine has a lot to say
04:00 - Once we parted ways I moved on
09:42 - Dave made sure I didn’t have any writing credit
14:00 - Bands are about culture
15:21 - Dave Mustaine is fighting with himself
23:40 - Every band has its challenge
29:41 - Dave singing for Megadeth for the 1st time
34:43 - "I promise your stories will be better than anyone else”
36:00 - Project with Jeff Scott Soto
49:00 - Getting a degree while on tour
59:17 - Poison live
1:02:00 - Outro
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Megadeth without Ellefson is not megadeth
Course it is. Megadeth will be be Megadeth as long as Mustaine is heading them. Mustaine IS Megadeth.
@@Lovegun. it feels a little off without him bcuz we seen him there with Dave for so long, but u r right, Megadeth was and will always b Megadave at the end of the day.
It was still megadeth when ellefson left the first time. Why should this time be any different? Mustaine is MEGADETH and MEGADETH is Mustaine. I'd rather be a angry person and consume vast amounts of alcohol and end up in rehab 17 times then be the guy who got caught beating off to some under age girl over the internet. Ellefson is so two faced
Love how Ellefson is so positive about what most people would be negative about, not bad mouthing a single person. That's straight awesome.
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Megadeth is a perfect band for a session player. Period.
You are 100% right.
I’d go record a bassline with them lol hold my beer!
It's always been a revolving door I'm not positive how many musicians were either in megadeth or played on albums but it's gotta be at least around 30-35. The name of the band needs changed to megadave at this point.
@@jareddavidmanifold313 hahaha for real I agree
Accurate. That's pretty much what it's been since day one.
David was an important driving force behind Megadeth.
Great pod cast man,peace out 👍🤘
Always great to hear from David E the OG member of Megadeth
He's a great dude. Subscribe and join the madness Joe 🙌
This is very awesome podcast. The hosts has excellent chemistry with Dave, and Dave himself didn't mind opening up on tough subjects. Plus the audio is crystal clear. I'm enjoying it.
Thank you! Check out our previous episodes and let us know what you think.
David is a friend before anything! He also played on all three Lost Symphony records so we worked with him quite a bunch. Nothing but awesome experiences with him.
@@2020d Yes definitely, been listening to your show weekly on Google Podcast! I like this week topic (about mastering), so insightful.
Well Jr the best shows I saw were with you hell man you even made sure I got sticks man the second show I got to see and thank you man for all the years of great music
Very insightful interview. Ellefson deserved better.
He totally did! But man, he couldn't be much more easy going about it
Well he didn't have to do something that would almost make the band a national embarrassment. Do you go after people 1/3 your age???
@@ObsidianLife who cares what I do? I don't care what he does either, I listen to music, bro. You care the Vince Neil killed a guy? You give a shit that chuck berry opened a restaurant just to put cameras in the toilets? Do you listen to Marilyn Manson? Nin? The radio at all? Because umm...I'm here for the music, not the politics
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist Yes I do, as any decent person would…
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist And you might wanna reread what you wrote dude… You sound like a sicko…please stay away from children...
...actually, please stay away from humans!!!
I have seen Megadeth 5 times and always took up for Dave. But if I were to pay to see Megadeth or David’s band then I’ll go with David. His personality was a great part of why I loved Megadeth.
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If it wasn't for David Ellefson There wouldn't be a Megadeth so Dave Mustaine Stabbed his brother in the back
@sd yeah he’s garbage on stage anyway he’s a brick just stands still plucking
So your aware why he was kicked then huh?
100% and people who don't realize that are just the trolls that have no empathy or choose not to use any kind of logic. Dave mustaine hated the idea of having to have an original band member that could possibly take any limelight or control away from him
@@Septicshites do you me "you're" 😭
I've been a Megadeth fan since 1987. I never considered anybody but Dave Mustaine the focal point of the band junior is a nobody and always has been
Kingmaker bass jam intro is on point, dunno why Dave Mustaine dislikes it. I like it just I like both Dave's, it's a shame it ended like this, for sure I miss that bass in Megadeth.
Dave is just trying to continue to make headlines and sell records (mission accomplished). Anyone with a brain knows that if he didn't want it on the album it wouldn't be there. So he can redo a marty friedman solo and not tell him but somehow a bass intro makes it? Who has the power in that band? All signs lead back to Dave. But hey, it's Dave being Dave, that's his brand and it works for him.
Media for a new record. Helllloooo
Megadeth is one of my favorite bands there's no scrubbing Ellifson or any of the former members for that matter. While Mustain is the only constant, each member of the band has placed their stamp on their particular era. No matter what Mustaine has to say about it.
It may be MegaDave, but the Mega is large and it comes before and with Dave.
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DAVID ELLEFSON is so chill he's got the best attitude
David Ellefson and Jason Newsted deserved better.
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If every episode of the Dave and Yngwie reality show was on pay per view, I would pay whatever the cost to see it.
"Dooo-NUTS?? Dooo-NUTS?? I don't want no Dooo-NUTS, OK!!??"
@@toddmorrissey8372 that's fuckin donuts....😄
Tell me that wasn't a hilarious idea!!!!!! Omg, id watch it everyday.
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist it is...
@@emt5330 who do you think would end up being the bigger ass hole? Lol
i kind of like that Dave is is out. we get to hear what things were really like now. haha.
Glad to see ellefson doing ok, It seems he moved on...Monster of a bassist...
Hes got more projects, I swear! The guy is resilient
David is always class-act !
Hes the consummate metal diplomat
There’s a video of proof of it.
@@biorythmicshifter oh wait, there's a video of David ellefson on the internet, THANKS SO MUCH FOR TELLING US 😘
@@biorythmicshifter 😂
I hope ellefson doesn’t pull it out on this zoom call
Lol!
Does it get old? No?
Dave has always been an imature brat, while David is the polar opposite. Maybe that's why he was kicked out of Metalica
I think the reason why Dave mustaine was kicked out of metallica was because James and Lars saw what kind of person he is, a kind of person who's so full of himself and very very hard to work with as a team mate. even Cliff Burton has nothing much nice to say about Dave whom dave claims was his only best friend.
I mean, haven't people been talking over this for 40 years? Lol
Insider here. I was working ellefsons coffee booth at 2018 namm, Pam asked me when I ordered a bag of coffee to try but $20 for a bag versus an $8 Starbucks same size bag plus shipping made it way too expensive. I was not getting paid for this and Ellefson was not very social to anyone helping him out. Thought he should be more appreciative towards people helping him out for free. Being nice to an interviewer on line is easy but him and Mike Portnoy really don’t seem to like their fans anymore.
People need to realize Megadeth is completely Dave Mustaine's band. and also rumours are Mustaine is not expected to live much longer. Dave is looking really, really rough and struggling and Ellefson put him in a difficult situation. Hopefully they can reunite and bury the hatchet before it's too late. You know Ellefson working with all of the former MD guys has to be pissing Mustaine off. Especially with them playing Dave's songs.
Look. Here's the deal. More often than not in a band, it's generally one or two guys doing most of the writing. It's very difficult to have a vision and have people read into that to make it work. Let dave be dave. Fuck it. The music is good.
I second that motion. Anyway ,it's all he said /he said. Unless you are boots on the ground personally involved, you dont who is in the right or wrong or if there is even such a claim to bemade by either. We know nothing except for what Dave and Dave give us ,the two most bias ,one sided informants you could have in this type of situation. Far as I'm concerned,I'm done with it, none of my beeswax ,there's a great album out and I'm going to enjoy it
For sure. That's what sells records. That's why he's mercilessly trashing David ellefson, because that's his brand. Be a dick, write killer riffs, be a dick, repeat. It works.
No Ellefson,no Megadeth!!!
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The Don Quixote of Rock...
I was watching this today and funny thing is that I find news about Mustaine saying that hi is the only funder member of megadeth, wht an asshole... Ellefson rules!!! That dude has inspired me a lot, and he even signed a couple of my Jackson basses and played peace sells on them.
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Bust in peace
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Mustaine just wants guys in his band that won't get in the way of his ideas. He wants drive the whole thing and just have people that won't alter it in any way. Which sucks, because he's had some amazing musicians in his band. Yet his ego just makes him not care about that.
True, and unfortunately for Dave it's that kind of collaboration that puts a good band at the next level. Look at Tool.
Accurate! Subscribe and join the madness and check out the other interviews we have done with David on our channel and the tunes we have done with www.lostsymphony.com three of them being with Marty Friedman
When your band is dealing with a official label, there is not so much friendship left.
A lot of things became about working.
It's a job.
So is there a link with Marty's solo vs Dave's solo on breadline?
I'd love to hear that. But I gotta tell u, mustaine doesn't play close to marty so I think it's kinda hilarious that happened. The label was like, hey, you know that super virtuoso in your band, let's not use his solo. Can you play the pentatonic really fast? You can? Do it.
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist 😂
@@shred9475 🤘🤪🤘🎸🔥
What you should listen to is www.lostsymphony.com where Benny, cory and Siobhan play on multiple songs w both David and Marty including 2 songs with both of them on it. So half of the rust in peace lineup.
Dave is very tough to work with. It amazes me how many people kiss his ass. With Dave, you definitely have to separate art from person.
David is definitely a team player and put up with a lot of shit to maintain megadeth.
I couldn't tell you for certain how hard he is to work or get along with because I was never in a working relationship with him ,I never met the guy , but one thing is clear throughout the years, he has no problem getting the most talented guitar players that are available to work with him , that in certain aspects do some things better than he does and proceeds to write material that give them room to shine which makes the songs and the band better. There are a lot guys out there that wouldnt even consider putting guys like Chris Poland , Marty , or Kiko in their band because those guys are ridiculously talented and could bruise an ego or outshine their counterpart, he seems to have no problem with it and accepts that challenge . As a bass player myself, it sucks that Ellefson is out but he is putting together a project with Chris Poland and I can't wait to hear what that will produce ,but who knows what the reality of the situation is between those two guys,. Dirk and Kiko could probably be the only ones that could give us a true opinion and a reasonable judgement. And they're not talking so I just say they both rock and hope selfishly I get twice the amount of good music out of it.
@@danzemacabre8899 History tells you all you need to know. Mustaine was fired. He fires eveyone. People quit. 1 + 1 = 2. And great musicians can't save bad songs. I love Megadeth's first 6 albums! But I don't like anything after Youthanasia. There are good songs but they're on bad albums in my opinion. The new album is rehashed riffs. We'll Be Back is literally The Threat Is Real and Black Friday. Soldier On is literally Sleepwalker. And the Ice-T collaboration 🤢 🤮 I'm looking forward to Ellefson's new music.
@@danzemacabre8899 oh stop kissing his ass
@@danzemacabre8899 "I've been good friends with Mustaine forever. I have no problems with him. But he talks really funny sometimes. He's not difficult for me. I mean, we got along for ten years, when I was in the band, just great, and we have no problems. So I wouldn't say he's difficult at all." -Marty Friedman
It's kinda strange that when the new album comes out all the shit comes out. He got fired a year ago? And why don't you play the video for us?
It's strange? Or is it what mustaine does to help sell records? It's not only not strange, it's predictable
Mustaine trying to sell records. And why would we play any video? We are a podcast
Listen I don't really care about David anymore because the new Megadeth record is freaking awesome and I don't care what happens with this guy anymore he can go screw around with young girls whether they're 18 or 17 doesn't matter they're still too young
I tend to agree...I think if he were single, not studying to be a pastor, didn't have kids her age and wasn't nearly 60, this all would have just been gross. I was a lot more open to at least hearing what he had to say before it turned into him claiming to be the victim...there's NO situation where its ok to be sexual with someone 1/3 their age...
@@ObsidianLife David claimed that it was a female fan that he met, they exchanged contact info and talked for a couple of years, but he swears that it didn't get sexual until after she was over 18. Who knows how true that is, but anyway, he is old enough to be her grandpa, he is married and was trying to be a pastor, so it was still messed up.
18 is legal, and the girl was 18. If you're saying that you wouldn't hook up with a hot 18 year old you're lying. Any straight man would.
Hey guys, let's not all get on our high horses, remember Vince Neil killed a guy. Chuck berry put cameras in his restaurant bathrooms. Jerry Lee lewis fucked a 13 year old. Elvis a 14 year old and had a kid. I mean, it goes on. Listen to the music and judge that, not the people lol. You'll end up listening to nothing by the time you're done figuring out theyre all messed up. Welcome to the music industry
@@rodbelding9523 some of the criticism was because he apparently started talking to her when she was 17 & they consider it gr00ming
Cliff Burton said it best: "Dave Mustaine likes to run his mouth. We run our business."
… so sad it is that aside from all the mustaine non sense , how easily it is to throw away the last thing that was and will forever be megadeth = Juniors tone 😢
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wait a minute .... did junior just become senior? maybe it is time for mr. m to grow up. love you dave but really. it is time to meet the real you.
The guy on the left should relax)
Bless Ellifson. He totally lied about Vince Meal.
Ellefson’s got a monster mustaine in his trousers! Pretty cool, davis!
I like Ellefson. But the truth is it's always been Mustaine's band. Since day 1. No co Founders, no collaboration, it's always been Mustaine. If Ellefson felt abused all these years. He should've stayed away. Secondly, their friendship was never the same after he tried to sue Mustaine for millions. LMFAO. They never did interviews together when Ellefson came back. Then the video scandal... That was icing on the cake, the build up to boot him for good. To me it was obvious it was going to fall apart between them. Tension building. Someone suing you, doesn't just go away. Anyhow. It's 2022. Folks need to stop focusing on the Mustaine of the 80s and 90s. He's a family man these days, and he's a business man. Hence the word business. Getting rid of Ellefson was just that. It's this lingering BS floating around. The dude that wacks it publicly in Megadeth, the dude that sued Mustaine. Watch the Eddie Trunk interview. Mustaine is truly over the subject of Ellefson. He just wants to play music.
As for all the Metallica BS focus. Blame the media. They love that shite, and they ask him in every interview, some asinine question.
Anyhow. Whatever. Look... Mustaine actually kept it professional and business. He didn't talk shite about Ellefson. Ellefson has all of a sudden been coming out of the woodwork, poking the bear. Soon... He's going to be getting sued. LMFAO. Seriously.
In the end. Who gives a shite. Like really? I love the new band. Kiko IMHO, even though I'm a Marty fan. I'm a bigger Kiko fan, and actually like Kiko's style way more than Marty's. Dirk has always kicked ass, Lomenzo is great etc. They've all said this numerous times too, that they all feel like a band of brothers. Which hasn't been said in years in the Megadeth camp. Anyhow, love him or hate him. Mustaine has gone through some shite, and he's still moving forwards at 61,and it's a great accomplishment to keep doing what he loves to do.
I mean, it's def mustaines band but it's also David's legacy. It's easy to give the advice when it's not your life you're talking about.
@@2020d it's called opinion. No one is giving advice. I don't know them, you don't know them. But I haven't said anything far from truth at all. In the end. It doesn't matter. Mustaine is doing what he's doing, Ellefson is doing what he's doing. Move on.
@Michael K I don't disagree with you brother. But that's now how stupid media works and mustaine thrives on still talking about getting fired from Metallica almost 40 years later. But you're not wrong lol. Subscribe and join the madness
@@2020d what like the way you just said why Mustaine for what he did for example??
They’re both too busy selling cheap coffee and wine to stupid “fans” willing to buy the same crap put out by every other desperate band just because the cheap wine or cheap coffee has a cheap label with the band or band members name.
Hahahah wait for Angry Dave to reply.
It's his brand. It sells records. It works for megadeth. Salty Dave.
I mean...doesn't he always
Every interview he says "You know" a lot XD
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It's the Minnesotan in him. You'll hear a lot of that from those of us from the area 🙂. I'm guilty of that quite a bit 😆🤦♀️
Dave's got issues 'bout his Metallica firing, man. He is insane.
Talk about someone who doesn't wanna let go. But hey, it still gets him attention 40 years later, so keep riding that resentment train
You know...
Yup
No coffee for Benny.
Good call
Haha I don't even need it!!! But David sent me some so just wait 🤪
@@2020d ok podcast 🤣
But David wasn’t the first one to get the boot 🥾 . As much as I love megadeth it is time for Dave to just stop harboring the pain and let his religion heal him.
He doesn't harbor any pain. Talk about a dude who literally has no f to give. It's sorta amazing
@@2020d he continuously talks about the time he was in Metallica so he’s he still has pain
@@hollywoodjoe3259 absolutely. Clearly it traumatized him like he has every musician that's worked with him since. Subscribe and join the madness and happy new year
@@2020d he is way better than them tho 🤷♂️ hell yeah I will subscribe 👍
@@hollywoodjoe3259 🤘🤘 Rock on man
this is going to lead to a scathing rebuttal from mustaine, but right now Mustaine is lighting himself on fire with interviews, embarrassing former bandmates. Ellefson tells of a situation that I think aligns with the scenario most envision with Mustaine.
It's pretty obvious ellefson speaks the truth, how much more diplomatic could he be?
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist the issue his account if events aligns with what many think of Mustaine
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist No, its pretty obvious that there are people who uncritically want to believe Ellefson without paying attention to what actually happened. AFTER he missed the deadline his opportunity to purchase his shares in the band (a standard procedure in a corporation) Ellefson tried to sure for the ENTIRE value of the brand at the time ($22M), lost horribly and was STILL let back in the band and then got the wannabe Married Pastor got caught up in a Sex scandal with a girl that's the age of his kids. THEN we he was told to stay quiet while the org investigated, he went public...after years of riding Mustaine's coattails (name 3 songs that Ellefson actually wrote...I'll wait...).
The guy is a good bass player, but he fucked up. Mustaine can be a jerk, but he's not always wrong...
@@ObsidianLife who said I'm faulting mustaine for anything? Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I could care less about literally any of that, im stating as a staunch megadeth fan that there is a difference when he is and is not in the band. He definitely has a sound and is an original member. Is he expendable...clearly. That doesn't make what he contributed not awesome or him not a great bass player.
@@ObsidianLife Nailed it.
"It was just abusive. It was unnecessary. … Dave even said he had a resentment toward me that he couldn't let go."
Yeah, if you tried to sue me for $22M and even the Judge was like "...WTF?!??" I'd resent you too...
For all the people who are going to say something stupid, read about the case:
"en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellefson_v._Megadeth,_Inc."
Note the "Arguments and judgement"...
And it was dismissed. It was such a lame lawsuit the judge threw it out of court.
I clicked on the link. It doesn't go to the case.
@@kennethstover1741 FIXED...Damn, that was annoying...ok, the link has to be in quotes because the "Inc" has a period at the end which was breaking the link. Try it now...
That Barry guy is unbearable. He seems really be doing this mostly for presenting himself, especially promoting his own band, dropping off names he hung out with, interrupting to the point of shouting, explaining Ellefson his own former band. No great move for a host, Narcissist.
Oh, who's the babe? 😍😍
@sd 🤣🤣🤣
is that chick an actual living human being, or an AI-generated 3d-visual image ??
Look at that sheen on her forehead !! :D
She's real. Her names Siobhan and she cohosts this show.
@@2020d it was a joke, man.
Yes, obviously she *IS real* , but I just couldn't help commenting on the extreme application of makeup and lighting effects on her face! :D
Megadeth was always Dave an Dave to me. Megadeth without Elefson Timing isn't true Megadeth just my opinion
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It's so obvious that Dave mustaine doesn't want Ellefson to make any extra money off the records.
10000%
pretty sad dave and dave should have been ride or die
But seriously King maker is probably the most embarissing song Megadeth have ever done! (And Im a big Megadeth fan).
Its a completely rip-off of Children of the grave with Black Sabbath.
That sorta thing has been happening in music for so long. Im not sure I can completely agree just because so much music is so close to other music and there are only 12 notes. That said, it definitely takes it vibe from it just like the new Megadeth album completely rips off their old feels. Check out our episode with Damien Riehl where he talks about this stuff and copyrighting music and when is it actually ripped off. Subscribe and join the madness David!
Ellefson needs a hand.
Or a break from trolls lol
It's just Mustaine and the wannabes now...
Kiko is a good guitarist but I know what you mean. Keeping a lineup has always been a weakness of Dave
It's Dave and insert awesome players before he burns them out. None of them are wannabees. They're all incredible, just completely disposable and interchangeable
Dave is 1000% a "cluster b" person. Still love his music though.
I have the same impression, the oscillation of humor, the love/hate, black/white, the insecure he has, kinda sad.
@@vpsalves totally sad but makes for good records
Jeff young is the same guy like Dave Mustaine-talking shit about His forme band member and in every interview he Talk about megadeth, like dave with metallica 😂the difference is that young never moved on and reached Nothing besides megadeth
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Lol flip flopper
To which part
Maybe he got fired for doing “stuff” with someone who’s old enough to be his grandchild. Not illegal but 🤢
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@@2020ddone. 😂 thanks for not getting offensive
I have to watch these interviews with closed captions on and the sound muted because of that annoying pest Benny. Cory and Siobhan, PLEASE put him on the highest dose possible of RITALIN.
Or don't watch 😘
It would be nice if the other 2 got to talk more.
@@JonnyBGoode3 they talk plenty, I led this show.
@@JonnyBGoode3 they didn't talk more because they don't know the details of any of this like i do. Go watch other episodes dude lol and if you don't, in the words of ellefson "it is what it is"
@@JonnyBGoode3 Nah, I've checked out a few other episodes and this guy is the same every time. He's just a hyper active 1st grader in need of attention that blurts out the first thing that comes to mind. Even some other "Metal" oriented podcasts like "Scars and Guitars" recently commented on this after Richard Shaw's last appearance, but "it is what it is" right Benny!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
MEGADETH is MEGADAVE...
Well...yeah!
Accurate
Embarrassed himself on camera and now fails to deal with the consequences 😂
Trying to appeal to the metallica fans, just when you think he can't get any lower! At least Mustaine created Megadeth, Ellefson's projects are awful
finally someone with some sense
He's dealing with the consequences. Read the comments lol
Dave ellefson gave all he could he stopped providing so he was fired and the controversy around him at the time didn’t help at all
Ummm...what? He still plays bass incredibly. Dave mustaine got tired of hearing "co founded by" next to another member of megadeth because he's a megalomaniac, but hey, whatever you say 🤣
But, but, but Dave Mustaine reads the bible and is a devout christian!!!
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The new Megadeth album isn't that great. Dystopia is better.
I dig it but I definitely love dystopia. Dave rarely let's down. Subscribe and join the madness Brian
Dave Mustaine's an alcoholic. That's why Metallica kicked him out. He even admitted he's an angry drunk. He needs to get his shit together, or he's gonna end up a one deminsional artist, and he'll probably just crank out a bunch of albums that he wrote mostly by himself and they'll all sound the same.
And that song David said they worked on and modeled it afyer Good Mourning/Black Friiday, I listened to on RUclips the other day. I commented on it. I said I thought it sounded a lot like it. That one line, I smash their heads til no teeth remain, or something close to that, reminded me of, I mangle their face til no features remain. And I hate to say it, but I actually like the 8ntro to the original better. It just sounds eery. I like the slow, with the fast. I always have. That's why * always like Mudvayne too. Or songs like Mary Jane. I think the contrast makes the slow sound more melodic and the fast sound harder and faster. Anyway, I hate to hear about all the strife in the band, and Dave seems to be coming off the rails. I hope he gets it together. And I wish you well David.
As far as I always knew, or read, you guys lived in neighboring apartments and he heard you playin or something aftrr he got the boot from Metallica. And you guys started playin together and decided to start Megadeth together. I thought you were a cofounder. I read that from a magazine, before we had the internet. So, you deserve a lot 9f respect. I always felt it was as much tour band as it was gis. He's turning into a megalomaniac, if he wasn't always one. You deserve a lot of respect for that, whether the controversy is true or not. And I don't know if it is. I won't believe it til I see proof 9f it. You deserve the benefit of the doubt for co founding Megadeth, and being a long time friend.
I just thought of something. What if you started playing with Metallica. Wouldn't that piss him off? Lol. You'd see if he really was over getting kicked out.
They were all alcoholics. They were nicknamed "Alcoholica" in some of the metal magazines in the mid 80s. It's just that back in 82/83, Dave was an angry drunk, where as the rest of the guys in Metallica were silly drunks. They didn't mix, and sometimes Dave got violent.
Ironic since Hetfield's the one still going to rehab as an old man, not Mustaine.
@@GL.Sorrell it basically was about the violence. As far as I know James didn't break other people's elbows
@@mariovomhof2775 Yeah idk what Hetfield's done besides kick dogs and torment his bandmates like Newsted. Dave's been into martial arts forever
@@GL.Sorrell it's not really ironic. And, I thought I said something about Dave being an angry drunk, but I must've forgot. But, that's the thing. Hetfield may still ve going to rehab, I don't know. But, if he 8s, that means he knows he still has a problem. I'm an alcoholic myself. I've been sober for over ten years. I've had a lot of experience with sobriety, and I've gad a lot of experience with drinking and drugs. And James sounds like someone that knows he has a problem, and is still seeking help. Dave sounds like someone who still has a problem, and it's getting worse. It sounds like he's approaching madness, and he may or may not care that he is.
I went back and read my comment. I did say Dave's an angry drunk. I just didn't say that's why they kicked em out. Sometimes my brain goes faster than I type. But, yeah, they kicked em out because he got angry and he was violent and shit. From what I heard. I wasn't there obviously. Just like with Dave. I'm making an educated guess, from what I've heard, and from my experience.
I'm sorry David but I'm not a big fan of your Lucid band. I don't like it. maybe you should stick to what you have been known for, a band that plays aggressive and angry.. I'm not stereotyping you or anything as one of your big fan, but, hey, it is what it is. you're one of the pioneers of your genre. We can't have Bon Jovi singing a White Zombie song if you know what I mean 😉 You are a thrash metal musician, stand by it., I can give you songs that I wrote that are fast and aggressive for free, if you want 😊
Hey bro, you don't gotta like his band but 1. I'm 100000% ellefson isn't reading this 2. How about I tell you what you should do with your life like a keyboard warrior? Lol
Don't like his shit, don't support him, but don't come on here and give us your opinion of his new band because literally, and I mean literally, no one cares what you think about it. 🤪
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist huh? your the one who's acting like a keyboard warrior here. acting tough and all. I was just being honest and yet. here you are all angry and wetting your pants. ready to punch the PC screen just because of an honest comment from somebody he didn't even know. you have a sad life.
Lol you think David ellefson reads the comments on podcasts? I'm gonna write my mom a letter on your fb
Don't choke your chicken on camera. Jesus.
I would have kicked him out too.
Embarrassing for the other members.
Not a very loyal person
Why? How is it embarrassing for anyone else?
lost respect for Ellefson if he felt abused why didnt he just leave on his own
Is that a joke? He started one of the most well known metal bands in the world and has millions of fans. This has been his livelihood for 40 years. He tried to make it work the best he could. And fyi, he did leave in 2001. Lol
That's what I'm saying lol it's like getting fired from your job then saying how much it was hell like bro you should've just left then 😅
@@elixenramirez740 I don't know, man. If it was just a job I'd be with you, but he was performing w one of the greatest metal bands in the world and regardless of how divided fans are now, fans like seeing Jr in the band, so I'm sure a lot of it was he was getting paid to do what he loved even though there was hell to pay
@@TheNeuroticGuitarist He JOINED a band that Mustaine was starting. Mustaine already had songs and the name. Look up Ellefson's religious thing ("Mega Life"), look up his coffee brand...kinda like Mustaine's. Look up his Brand and logo...Kinda like Mustaine's...I mean, Ellefson has been riding his coattails for years. He's a great Bass Player but he was never 50% of Megadeth. Look at what happened after the FIRST time he was gone...how much did you hear about him???
Now IF there was a misunderstanding regarding this song or things in the studio, then that sucks, but that doesn't change the fact that he did something that made the brand look bad...
@@ObsidianLife omg, so a dude in spring of 1983 has a band name and some riffs and by fall 83 he has a bass player, but he joined his band. You're kinda funny. Is it fun in troll world? Does your gf/bf/plant get the same sorta attention you have invested in your anti ellefson vitriol? You might be able to get something done in this world if you just focused that energy on something remotely productive 🤪
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Mate, stop yelling
You don't have to watch...
MegaDave the band AND Ellefson. Mustaine is pretty awful with his band members.
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I dont know who the guy is on the top left but how can someone who doesn't know about a situation be so sure about what happened? Ellefson was given a career by Mustaine basically by being in the right place at the right time when he met him. That could've been any bass player who was there and Dave would've hired him because he needed to. Megadeth has always been the Dave Mustaine project and Ellefson has what like 3 writing credits on their entire catalogue. If he's hates Dave and Megadeth so much then why is playing in a band that plays Megadeth songs? If he isn't bitter or does t want to 'get in the dirt" as he says then why did he take Dave to court? Why does he now bash him publicly any chance he gets?? I would be very bitter too if someone who claimed to be my best friend and bandmate sued me for $22 million.....(which was laughed out of court by the way). Dave let him go because he got caught with his hand on the cookie jar and maybe he would've got away with that a decade or so ago but today that shit doesn't fly and would've probably destroyed the band. Mustaine had no choice to fire him and I would've done the exact same. He's an original member yes but what does that really mean? He played his part and basically played what Mustaine told him to. Megadeth sound better than ever so it shows that having Ellefson gone doesnt make one shred of difference in their music. I just hate hypocrites man and Ellefson is a huge one. And the rest of these guys here are shitty for all jumping on Dave when he's not there to defend himself. Shows a real lack of character doing that and leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Shitty what people will do for likes and views today.
Yes people dont understand, ellefson, young, poland all know that Dave put them all on the map and they still probly make more money off megadeth than any other music project....and they wont forget it they r grown men but the history pays to talk about and its just business...and they obviously dont hate dave for putting money in their pocket still to this day🤷
Lol because Benny, the guy on the top left, has actually played with both ellefson and Friedman and has had innumerable interactions with the band over the last 20 years? So probably a little more in tune than just a normal fan since everyone on this podcasts are actual friends. Dave isn't bitter, he couldn't be much more of a gentleman about everything. There's no question megadeth has always been a mustaine solo project. Thank you for reiterating what everyone knows. Mustaine loves to ride ellefson for blabbermouth news and to sell records, but at the end of the day, that's how mustaine has always been. Who cares?
We don't think any of them hate any of them. They ALL make money off of one another, whether it's in the news or selling records. Let them all do their thing, mustaine has megadeth and Dave will always have a million projects. That's how he operates and it's completely respectable. Mustaine clearly is THE guy in megadeth and he absolutely helped put those guys on the map but let's be real, THEY helped HIM make megadeth a band WE all wanted to listen to. Marty and Poland were the REASON why I listened to megadeth. It took me years to tolerate mustaines vocals. His guitar solos are also all the same, he's like one step up from Kirk Hammett. That said, his albums are awesome and he's a great songwriter, but if those guys hadn't allegiantly followed mustaine and backed him up, there would ALSO BE NO MEGADETH. Mustaine has always surrounded himself with better players than himself, but if they didn't matter than why do people beg to have Marty back? As far as I'm concerned, Marty took megadteh to the next level and he was the reason that myself and most of the people I grew up gave a f about megadeth. Just saying. Now he has kiko. Marty part 2. More people staring at his hands than mustaine
Nobody gave David a career. Without David there's no Megadeth and you'd never have heard of Dave Mustain.
@@russellward4624 alright...I heard of Ron Mcgovney who basicly only housed and drove Metallica... pretty sure Daves name would still b in the credits on those metallica albums and we'd all know who he was. Ellefson had done nothing up till that point when he met Mustaine. Im sure he would have regardless since he is a beast of a bassist but Dave had already made metal history before Ellefson met him lol also if he never formed Megadeth he would probly be known as the murderer of Lars Ulrich at some point xD