I'm a cheap fuck, as much as I want many of the high profile games I will just emulate them overall. Unless of course it's one of those games that happens to be one of my own personal favorite types of games kinda like Snatcher for example which is pricey. That I was willing to pay more for because the game meant so much to me. So honestly I think the price can be justified depending on how much it means to the person who wants it. Outside of the collector who just wants it only because it is rare rather than for the experience itself.
same here, I'd rather emulate but I still try to get the games I love if it's not an outrageous price, musha it's a great game but too expensive, Just bought X-men 2: Clone wars for the sega genesis but it was a at decent price, 16 bit emulation it's almost as good as the real thing.
same here, I'd rather emulate but I still try to get the games I love if it's not an outrageous price, musha it's a great game but too expensive, Just bought X-men 2: Clone wars for the sega genesis but it was a at decent price, 16 bit emulation it's almost as good as the real thing.
I'm Japanse, and I'm so glad to hear the opinions of great respect to Japanese old good games. And I hope those who played Japanese old good games recommend them to your friends and family. Masterpieces never die.
I've had this game since 1990 and it's one of my all time favorites. I used to blast the music through my brother's giant Kenwood speakers. That said, It's definitely not worth $300+. Emulate it and play it! Fantastic game.
How did i NOT see this episode with all of the years i have watched you. This is one of my FAVORITE Genesis games ever. I acquired this by "accident" in a flea market in maybe 1992/1991when my Dad bought it for me. I played it for HOURS and hours and had no idea at the time how prevalent it would be. I didn't care if anyone liked it, I just knew it was good. The music is beyond inspiring for me. It is just so fantastic i can't even explain. I wish i still had the box but i still have the cart. I have played music since I was young and this game has always played a part in my inspiration.
Cool game. Only recently heard of it. I've been a gamer my entire life, but there's absolutely no way in hell I would spend over $100 for a single video game, personally.
I believe the rarest / most expensive game I own is Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Saturn which I think sells for several hundred pounds / Dollars online. To me It is definitely worth that price and I would never sell it!! I think I picked it up back in the day for £30. I can't imagine a Shoot em up being that worth it though, but I am not a big fan of the genre so I don't know what I am talking about XD Love the idea of this episode though! Maybe we will get a series of 'Is it worth it'? :)
Jeremy Seal Yeah exactly. I just don't see where the... well... 'exprience' is when it comes to these space shooters, but like I say, it is a genre that some people love so maybe we are just missing something ;)
+Veggie Gamer I love rpgs and the experience I get from the story and the characters. When It comes to shooters the reason I love them is the challenge, the arcade feeling playing them and the bosses. I have a family and not a lot of free time to play rpgs like i used to but Shooters are easy to pick up and play and most importantly fun to play. I see you mentioned PDS im playing Panzer dragoon saga right now for the 5th time : )
+Veggie Gamer I got Panzer for 59.99 back when it came out which was ALOT. They sold it at babbages. Most games were 49.99 at the time so it was odd that they had a 10 dollar mark up.
TB46667 - The Golden Age Gamer Yeah that is a fair point about not having time for some RPGs. I tend to play sport games when I want just a short experience but I can see Shooters fitting that sort of need too. 5th time? Nice work :D I think I may need to start it over again, maybe record it for my channel this time (though it will just be a commentary of me gushing over how good it is XD)!
I got a copy of musha w no manual for about 380 usd about two months ago and I do not regret it. Being located in europe, you kind of have to pay these prices due to import, scarce-ability etc. I have not played it yet, but I will, and I will enjoy it. Im not gonna see it as an investment. My collection leaves me when I die (or my gf finds out what it is wort) and so the future price of it does not matter.
MUSHA is one of my Hidden Gems that I'm still mastering from this day on. it's a hard decent game but one of my favorite genesis games of all time. It's one of my favorite genesis shmups (and Elemental Master which I'm almost completing)
Original name of the game was Musha Aleste (Warrior Aleste) as a part of Aleste shooter series. Toshiaki Sakoda also made music for Devil Crash for PC Engine.
M.U.S.H.A is an amazing game. Just crazy graphics and sound. $100 isn't too crazy. A bit much but it's not only a classic in terms of gaming history, but it is a great game in itself. Obviously it's subjective. For the same price in the same generation there are some great RPGs that could be bought instead.
I once saw a shmmup for the SNES were the ships were more like realistic planes, but you could choose a ton of upgrades before each stage... It looked so damn cool, and i never saw it again...
Wow okay, I have never seen or heard of this! I don't think we had this released in the UK, but I'm going to get this for my collection. How punishing Johnny? As punishing as Ikaruga?
Nice to hear your views mate. And very cool you have it and your memories of playing it. For me the prices of Retro Games these days has killed my collecting bug completely. I used to own tons of consoles. But these days Im more than happy playing them on ROMs rather than forking out the cash ;)
Just before I start the vid, just wanna express how much Musha aleste had an impact on me..... from the anime intro then this title screen and the music...... damn the music.... it's megadrive heavy metal, so pumping, it takes you somewhere else. I discovered the game when I was pre teenager, played it for 2 days then had to give it back cause game was not mine. When I rediscovered this game like 20 years later, it was such an emotional thing. This is one of the most stylish games of all time.... damn, the music....THE MUSICCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Japan it's called Musha Aleste, Fullmetal Fighter Elinor. It's part of the Aleste series, which "Space Megaforce" aka Super Aleste is also a part of and is tangentially related to Zanac and Guardian Legend as well given that those games are a sideshoot off the Aleste series.
It's some kind of unwritten rule that 16-bit shmups had to have awesome music. Some people complained that the Genesis/TG16 had too many shmups, but with so many quality titles, they all had to compete!
I first heard about this game by watching the Classic Game Room review of it. It's Mark's favorite game I think and he made at least three or four video's just on the review of the game alone. I want it because I know the quality is fantastic plus it's made by Compile who happened to have made some of the best shmups ever.
I'd say spring for the less expensive Japanese equivalent but that's not really applicable hear unfortunately, it's still quite pricey. Regardless, it's an amazing game as far as shooters go, Compile really had their shit together.
I owned a repro cart but just bought a cart only copy, it was crazily expensive but I am really addicted to shmups and fighting games, they make up around 60 to 70 percent of my collection. I thoroughly enjoy M.U.S.H.A and found it to be one for the finest vertical shmups of all time, arguably my second favorite behind Radiant Silvergun. I am re-watching this video to validate my purchase haha.
I would love for someone to interview the people who worked on this game. I bought it back in 1991/92 and I paid around $50 for it. My reason for buying it was because I was into giant anime robots (mecha) and was happy to see a home-game that was about mecha. I completed the game over the course of a few months, but it was very tough. It was a beautiful, action-packed game that has stayed in my mind throughout the years. I wish I'd kept my copy.
I got lucky when a local game shop that gives pretty good trade in got it in, I got rid of some of my doubles and games i didn't need and snatched it. Worth having if your going for a formidable shmup collection. Another good one to get if you collecting is Grind Stormer or V-V or V-five.
Man I have wanted this game for years after seeing the very Japanese-esque artwork. Sadly I've not come across it and, unless I can get it for a fraction of the cost, I will have to emulate this as well. It's been on my never ending backlog of games to play but, after seeing your game play footage, has quickly moved its way to the top =)
Holy cow I was just listening the ost of that game a few hours ago and now you make this video! What are the chances for that to happen. You are awesome
Musha is the Japanese word for warrior! I played it when it first came out...I wish I had bought a copy for myself. I have a lot of earlier Atlus games that are worth hundreds each. I'm not interested in selling, just playing the game. So an emulated version is just fine for me.
It's hard for me to say any retro game or any game in general warrants these crazy prices ....I like to think of myself as a hardcore collector but it all has to be reasonable....I'm also not against emulation whatsoever so until I manage to find the mega expensive games in the wild I have NO problem just emulating it to enjoy it....I just can't justify spending 300, 400, 500$ on any game ever (minus arcade cabinets or certain hardware of course).....I would rather be patient and know one day I'll find it while out hunting for a steal and feel much more proud and accomplished that way instead of just throwing out ridiculous amounts of money to get a game. Just my opinion I'm sure many will disagree and give me shit for my views on emulation and even piracy..
Mega Everdrive flash cart. I am fine with it. I love this thing. I have a decent collection, but nowadays it isn't all to affordable to collect some of the more sought out games. Just played a 2x exp and money hack of Phantasy Star 2 so I didn't have to grind for 2 hours straight to get through an area. Also, the improved color hacks for most of the arcade Genesis games are a major plus.
+Ruko Michiharu Could not agree more. There are far far better games and far far better shoot em ups, and much cheaper. Sticking to the gameplay, art design and whatnot, you gotta be crazy to pay 300 bucks for this game. Speculation sucks.
Pai3000 Or you could just get them on the Virtual Console or emulate them, or put them on a flash cartridge if you want to play in real hardware... I mean, good'ol Compile doesn't even exist anymore, they aren't making any money off of this game, so if you buy a real copy your money is all going to the hands of scalpers...
+Ruko Michiharu MUSHA is a good game, but I'd agree that gate of Thunder and Soldier Blade are better games. Lords of Thunder as well. Thunder Force IV, and probably even Gunhed. However, MUSHA has one thing going for it. It's relatively uncommon (not rare) game on a console that's become more of a collector's console in the past two years. Genesis / Mega Drive is the hot thing right now, like the TurboGrafx. Before that it was the NES and SNES. I tied to pick up several games before it took off and barely got away with some good deals, but many games have more than doubled since 2012 / 2013. As a fan of Compile games, I have most of their domestic titles (and some import). MUSHA, like any game, is only worth what people will pay for it, and right now it seems to be one of the higher selling Genesis games along with an average Zelda clone (Crusader of Centy). What does that say about this hobby? I've yet to find anyone claim that either are the best games on the console.
Zach B Do you have Robo Aleste on the Sega CD? I hear that one is pretty good, it's from the same series as Musha and Space Megaforce, but overall, I'm really not a big fan of Compile's Aleste series, but I can appreciate it anyway... That said though I really love Rude Breaker (also by compile) and it's VERY similar to the Aleste games, except It's not as brutally difficult as their other shmups... This one is only playable via emulation though
+Ruko Michiharu WOW...lol been seeing all ur comments on the channels and like the agreement streak ends here!..by no means do i think M.U.S.H.A is the best shooter out there..but to be honest, and i own all three games....it OUTCLASSES both gate of thunder and soldier blade (any of the three hudson games honestly) easily. I spilled my coffee when i read this!!!!!! :-P P.S. i played robo aleste thru emulation and its pretty badass. i dunno where it fits in the series..but there is another "ghost soldier (or maybe knight?) spriggan" that i also finished thru emulation for the pcengine CD and thats prolly the best shooter in my book. Mind u its not as hard as other shooters, so its perfect for wussies like me.
Anyone looking to spend $100+ just to play musha really should just use that money on an everdrive. You'll be able to expose yourself to hundreds of great games on the original hardware, broaden your horizons and expand your taste
+charvelgtrs +viewtifuljoe99 I agree too. I used to collect any game I enjoyed, for any system... until I realized that if I sold off my cartridges and replaced them with Everdrives I'd have thousands of dollars left over. Of course, a lot of that ended up going into other hardware I didn't already own, but I'd rather have a Neo Geo CD and a nice MAME cabinet than a complete NTSC 32X library. ;)
+charvelgtrs I would use an everdrive on just the games I can't afford, like M.U.S.H.A. Just to hear and play that amazing Soundtrack on my orignal Sega Genesis :)
Looks fantastic, but it's hard to justify the price when you can get several excellent shooters on Genesis (several of which being better) for the same price. It's often only people that own it and didn't pay current price for it that say "it's absolutely worth it"(same with other extremely expensive games). I love shooters, but I wish their was even a shred of objectivity here.
sounds about right, i got mine in like 2007 for $60 on ebay, that was when most of the auctions were around $100-$150, the price these days is insane tho, but yeah the game is amazing, up there with the best soundtracks on the genesis, it's a game you will come back to a lot, its fun.
This game is worth it. My mom, yes my mom - she was addicted to this game. It’s a great looking game and the music is what stood out for me. It’s really aged decently. Damn this game is tough!
As much as i dig MUSHA (and the Aleste series as a whole), i've always preferred the Sega CD Robo Aleste game over it, and it doesn't cost nearly as much. Though, hearing your soundtrack story is really cool, and i can certainly see why it means as much to you as it does!
It always seems like emotional attachment is a big piece. I mean, its the reason i started collecting and the reason i do anything i do in the hobby. My heart belongs to the Sega CD, so my preference sways that way : )
robo aleste is rising you can still get it cheap Around $60 if you get lucky but it's becoming a $200 game, its another game that was like $20 in 2007.
No game is worth that kind of money if there is a good emulation to be had for very little money. Wii VC has MUSHA and that is good enough for me. The reason retro gaming has become a matter of social class is simply because people keep paying more than they should.
MUSHA is awesome but is probably one of the HARDEST games on the Genesis (along with TRUXTON). My favorite shooter in the console is actually GAIARES because despite being also hard is actually not as difficult as the first two games I mentioned.
I was in a one of my regular thrift stores and saw a copy of MUSHA in the back of the case so I quickly find an employee without even looking at the rest of the case. Turns out it was a 6 pak with the top label slightly torn and yellowed. No joke thanks to the lighting and bad angle it look exactly like the top label. Most expensive game I own is a complete Mega Man for the game gear. I should be really excited about it but I'm just not a Mega Man fan. When I saw it went for 500 for a complete copy my eyes bugged out. Other expensive titles I have are a boxed SNES Ogre Battle and a PS1 copy of Brigandine.
Anyone can live without paying such a crazy price for an outdated video game. There are so many pleasures in life which cost nothing or next to nothing.
Could always check the prices of the import variants. Japanese imports are usually way cheaper than the western variants because of how screwed the market is. Plus you don’t get the western Gunbustafied boxart.
The thing about MUSHA is, it's really hard to find an experience like this on any other 16-bit platform. Space Megaforce is cool but it's not even in the same league in my personal opinion (Aesthetic wise. Ironically they both are apart of the Aleste series). Between the cool art style and great soundtrack, MUSHA is really one of a kind. It's also nice to see a Sega Genesis game get appreciated monetarily. If this game was on the SNES it would be worth close to a grand. Aero FIghters CIB is worth $900 and that game isn't close to as good as MUSHA. HCG Best show on RUclips!
Discovered this game through emulators. Was downloading games and came across an acronym that was intriguing. Downloaded it and it blew my expectations straight to the Horsehead Nebula. Great shit right h-yah!
I definitely believe it is. I bought it twice because needing money forced me to sell it the first time. The game and music is fantastic. I don't have the case and manual, but it doesn't matter.
I really liked MUSHA. Owned it, played it, and traded it away. Would I pay those prices to replay it again it today?...no way Jose! Shooters have always been a niche genre even then, but nowadays I don't understand why it's so expensive when there are plenty of comparable games that aren't nearly as much. Great topic:)
Love the Aleste series of games, do not have a copy of this one however (and Super Aleste on SNES). I am lucky enough to have both versions for MSX 2 however.
I am actually against game scalpers and over the top prices in EBay, but the positive thing in all this is that maybe the actual copyright holders for this and many other RENOVATION games will notice how interest in the game has renewed and make a compilation or something for recent consoles...
subbed and liked, ya musha is on my list for sure with the mix of anime and pure firepower its a grail item for most collectors, great vids peace and strength from the Game Viking
Kuddos to you having Mass Effect 2 Collector's edition in your game library !! and now that I've seen about MUSHA I want to play it -_- lol good video !
i'm french, (38 YO, i own a genesis cartridge of it) and as a european gamer, my pal version is 50hz, not 60hz so not only the game was slower , but also the music....and i looooooved this amazing musics! i mean i prefer the slower version, it sounds much too fast in ntsc versions!!! Anyway, golden age of the megadrive... a classic!
Musha is pretty kickass. In the lower echelon of prices, like $100 or less, I'd say it is worth it. I don't really think a Sega Genesis game really is worth more than that myself though. It is definitely one of the best SHMUPs from the 16 bit era. I'm fine with emulators myself anymore, and would be more than willing to buy the games legally, but sadly a lot of these old games don't get published much... unless it's from Sega then they'll publish it on 50 different platforms lol.
Only worth it to the collector who really wants it. The value is only what people make it. I've played it. I would not pay $500 for it. I would not even pay $100.
I feel you, musha for my just isn't worth it, it's a great shooter, but since then there's been a hell ton of shooters released that are way better and way cheaper.
@shiningwizard327 Same here, I collect retro games but exclusively only a handful that I consider timeless, ones that I know I I love and will regularly come back to over and over again. I don't understand people who horde games just for the sake of having them. Personally, I think going for complete collections like some people do, is the height of absurdity
I have a copy of it I am deciding what to do. Is it excellent, but I see the price so I am hesitant to let go of it or sell it. I am tempted to do a tournament for my copy, if it would lead to something. My copy is in good shape.
There's only a handful of games I paid over $100 for: Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy III, and Shining Force III, and those were all complete and in great condition. I have a hard time paying more than $60 for any game, no matter how great, especially because of the existence of emulators.
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I'm a cheap fuck, as much as I want many of the high profile games I will just emulate them overall. Unless of course it's one of those games that happens to be one of my own personal favorite types of games kinda like Snatcher for example which is pricey. That I was willing to pay more for because the game meant so much to me. So honestly I think the price can be justified depending on how much it means to the person who wants it. Outside of the collector who just wants it only because it is rare rather than for the experience itself.
+AlphaOmegaSin Yes, it's about playing the game, not owning it. But at least play it with an Everdrive on original hardware ;)
+burn_cooper Fair enough, but buying a cartridge copy of a 25-year-old game doesn't help publishers either. ;)
same here, I'd rather emulate but I still try to get the games I love if it's not an outrageous price, musha it's a great game but too expensive, Just bought X-men 2: Clone wars for the sega genesis but it was a at decent price, 16 bit emulation it's almost as good as the real thing.
same here, I'd rather emulate but I still try to get the games I love if it's not an outrageous price, musha it's a great game but too expensive, Just bought X-men 2: Clone wars for the sega genesis but it was a at decent price, 16 bit emulation it's almost as good as the real thing.
+burn_cooper if you didn't know emulation is not illegal if you own a copy of the game, get your facts straight.
I'm Japanse, and I'm so glad to hear the opinions of great respect to Japanese old good games.
And I hope those who played Japanese old good games recommend them to your friends and family.
Masterpieces never die.
I've had this game since 1990 and it's one of my all time favorites. I used to blast the music through my brother's giant Kenwood speakers.
That said, It's definitely not worth $300+. Emulate it and play it! Fantastic game.
Pirate
Current day price according to PriceCharting is $500 CDN Loose and $991.78 CDN Complete.
Toshiaki Sakoda is an amazing man and musician. Always very nice to talk to. And MUSHA is awesome!
Soldier Blade > MUSHA
But is it worth it?
Bruce Allen soldier blade for nes?
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There is something special about the video game music of that era, especially, at least for me, the 8-bit music of the NES.
Found this game at goodwill, at the time I had no idea what it was, almost passed it up, but I am glad I didn't.
"Sent me a signed... autograph!" xD @ 6:03
"a signed autograph" lol... very nice
How did i NOT see this episode with all of the years i have watched you. This is one of my FAVORITE Genesis games ever. I acquired this by "accident" in a flea market in maybe 1992/1991when my Dad bought it for me. I played it for HOURS and hours and had no idea at the time how prevalent it would be. I didn't care if anyone liked it, I just knew it was good. The music is beyond inspiring for me. It is just so fantastic i can't even explain. I wish i still had the box but i still have the cart. I have played music since I was young and this game has always played a part in my inspiration.
The entire Aleste series is worth it, from the MSX to the Sega CD
+Rowri The Creep Absolutely true. IMHO, the weak link is actually Space Megaforce
ya agree on Super Aleste (Space Megaforce), still a good game though :D by the way, awesome nickname :D
@@MrSintastic sylphia weaker imo
I paid $5.62 for a repro cart on aliexpress and it works just fine 😂😂😂
Well, it’s on the Mega Drive online now.
How long will it be there?
Cool game. Only recently heard of it. I've been a gamer my entire life, but there's absolutely no way in hell I would spend over $100 for a single video game, personally.
I believe the rarest / most expensive game I own is Panzer Dragoon Saga for the Saturn which I think sells for several hundred pounds / Dollars online. To me It is definitely worth that price and I would never sell it!! I think I picked it up back in the day for £30.
I can't imagine a Shoot em up being that worth it though, but I am not a big fan of the genre so I don't know what I am talking about XD Love the idea of this episode though! Maybe we will get a series of 'Is it worth it'? :)
Jeremy Seal Yeah exactly. I just don't see where the... well... 'exprience' is when it comes to these space shooters, but like I say, it is a genre that some people love so maybe we are just missing something ;)
+Veggie Gamer
I love rpgs and the experience I get from the story and the characters. When It comes to shooters the reason I love them is the challenge, the arcade feeling playing them and the bosses. I have a family and not a lot of free time to play rpgs like i used to but Shooters are easy to pick up and play and most importantly fun to play. I see you mentioned PDS im playing Panzer dragoon saga right now for the 5th time : )
+Veggie Gamer I got Panzer for 59.99 back when it came out which was ALOT. They sold it at babbages. Most games were 49.99 at the time so it was odd that they had a 10 dollar mark up.
+Veggie Gamer I think Conker's Bad Fur Day is mine, luckily i got it for 56 bucks with box and pamphlet a few years ago.
TB46667 - The Golden Age Gamer Yeah that is a fair point about not having time for some RPGs. I tend to play sport games when I want just a short experience but I can see Shooters fitting that sort of need too.
5th time? Nice work :D I think I may need to start it over again, maybe record it for my channel this time (though it will just be a commentary of me gushing over how good it is XD)!
I got a copy of musha w no manual for about 380 usd about two months ago and I do not regret it. Being located in europe, you kind of have to pay these prices due to import, scarce-ability etc. I have not played it yet, but I will, and I will enjoy it. Im not gonna see it as an investment. My collection leaves me when I die (or my gf finds out what it is wort) and so the future price of it does not matter.
MUSHA is one of my Hidden Gems that I'm still mastering from this day on. it's a hard decent game but one of my favorite genesis games of all time. It's one of my favorite genesis shmups (and Elemental Master which I'm almost completing)
Original name of the game was Musha Aleste (Warrior Aleste) as a part of Aleste shooter series. Toshiaki Sakoda also made music for Devil Crash for PC Engine.
M.U.S.H.A is an amazing game. Just crazy graphics and sound. $100 isn't too crazy. A bit much but it's not only a classic in terms of gaming history, but it is a great game in itself. Obviously it's subjective. For the same price in the same generation there are some great RPGs that could be bought instead.
+NESRomancer It is $100 cart only if lucky. CIB they usually go $300-$400
Mr. Sintastic Presents 400-500 after this video lol
I once saw a shmmup for the SNES were the ships were more like realistic planes, but you could choose a ton of upgrades before each stage... It looked so damn cool, and i never saw it again...
***** No, i have UN Squadron and Axelay.
It was vertical Shmup . But thanks for trying to help me
+zanychelly Strike Gunner S.T.G.?
Yarn Rosnibon Wow , Thats the one. Thanks man!!!
zanychelly No problem, glad I could help!
Wow okay, I have never seen or heard of this! I don't think we had this released in the UK, but I'm going to get this for my collection.
How punishing Johnny? As punishing as Ikaruga?
IMHO, the best vertical SHMUP on the Genesis/MD.
My 8 dollar aliexpress repro was worth it. Waiting for the price to drop till I get a cib and then I'll give the repro to a friend.
Nice to hear your views mate. And very cool you have it and your memories of playing it.
For me the prices of Retro Games these days has killed my collecting bug completely. I used to own tons of consoles. But these days Im more than happy playing them on ROMs rather than forking out the cash ;)
cool, please do more of these videos, Im always fascinated by the games that get the Holy Graail standard of people who collect stuff
Just before I start the vid, just wanna express how much Musha aleste had an impact on me..... from the anime intro then this title screen and the music...... damn the music.... it's megadrive heavy metal, so pumping, it takes you somewhere else. I discovered the game when I was pre teenager, played it for 2 days then had to give it back cause game was not mine.
When I rediscovered this game like 20 years later, it was such an emotional thing.
This is one of the most stylish games of all time.... damn, the music....THE MUSICCCCCCCCC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In Japan it's called Musha Aleste, Fullmetal Fighter Elinor. It's part of the Aleste series, which "Space Megaforce" aka Super Aleste is also a part of and is tangentially related to Zanac and Guardian Legend as well given that those games are a sideshoot off the Aleste series.
It's some kind of unwritten rule that 16-bit shmups had to have awesome music. Some people complained that the Genesis/TG16 had too many shmups, but with so many quality titles, they all had to compete!
I first heard about this game by watching the Classic Game Room review of it. It's Mark's favorite game I think and he made at least three or four video's just on the review of the game alone. I want it because I know the quality is fantastic plus it's made by Compile who happened to have made some of the best shmups ever.
I'd say spring for the less expensive Japanese equivalent but that's not really applicable hear unfortunately, it's still quite pricey. Regardless, it's an amazing game as far as shooters go, Compile really had their shit together.
Awesome that you got a signature. I had no idea that there was a hardcopy of the soundtrack. It one of my favorites on the Genesis.
MUSHA is part of the Aleste series of shooters over in Japan and stands along side Robo Aleste and Spriggan. What a great game.
I owned a repro cart but just bought a cart only copy, it was crazily expensive but I am really addicted to shmups and fighting games, they make up around 60 to 70 percent of my collection. I thoroughly enjoy M.U.S.H.A and found it to be one for the finest vertical shmups of all time, arguably my second favorite behind Radiant Silvergun. I am re-watching this video to validate my purchase haha.
I would love for someone to interview the people who worked on this game. I bought it back in 1991/92 and I paid around $50 for it. My reason for buying it was because I was into giant anime robots (mecha) and was happy to see a home-game that was about mecha. I completed the game over the course of a few months, but it was very tough. It was a beautiful, action-packed game that has stayed in my mind throughout the years. I wish I'd kept my copy.
OMG. This video just popped up in my feed. $400 was the going price in 2015. Now in 2019 it sells for over $800.00 on Ebay. Crazy. Just crazy!
And it has 3 different endings so glad I kept this one with original box & instructions. Also kept all my original shooters on the Genesis.
Just bought my copy with the box for $197.00.Worth every penny.
I got lucky when a local game shop that gives pretty good trade in got it in, I got rid of some of my doubles and games i didn't need and snatched it. Worth having if your going for a formidable shmup collection. Another good one to get if you collecting is Grind Stormer or V-V or V-five.
Man I have wanted this game for years after seeing the very Japanese-esque artwork. Sadly I've not come across it and, unless I can get it for a fraction of the cost, I will have to emulate this as well. It's been on my never ending backlog of games to play but, after seeing your game play footage, has quickly moved its way to the top =)
Holy cow I was just listening the ost of that game a few hours ago and now you make this video! What are the chances for that to happen. You are awesome
Depends on the person. if it's just for a collection.. eh.. emulate. if it was a big part of your childhood or you love the series, buy it.
Musha is the Japanese word for warrior!
I played it when it first came out...I wish I had bought a copy for myself. I have a lot of earlier Atlus games that are worth hundreds each. I'm not interested in selling, just playing the game. So an emulated version is just fine for me.
It's hard for me to say any retro game or any game in general warrants these crazy prices ....I like to think of myself as a hardcore collector but it all has to be reasonable....I'm also not against emulation whatsoever so until I manage to find the mega expensive games in the wild I have NO problem just emulating it to enjoy it....I just can't justify spending 300, 400, 500$ on any game ever (minus arcade cabinets or certain hardware of course).....I would rather be patient and know one day I'll find it while out hunting for a steal and feel much more proud and accomplished that way instead of just throwing out ridiculous amounts of money to get a game. Just my opinion I'm sure many will disagree and give me shit for my views on emulation and even piracy..
Mega Everdrive flash cart. I am fine with it. I love this thing. I have a decent collection, but nowadays it isn't all to affordable to collect some of the more sought out games.
Just played a 2x exp and money hack of Phantasy Star 2 so I didn't have to grind for 2 hours straight to get through an area. Also, the improved color hacks for most of the arcade Genesis games are a major plus.
I honestly don't get the hype behind Musha... Sure, it's a pretty good shmup, but it's really no Gate of Thunder or Soldier Blade...
+Ruko Michiharu Could not agree more. There are far far better games and far far better shoot em ups, and much cheaper. Sticking to the gameplay, art design and whatnot, you gotta be crazy to pay 300 bucks for this game. Speculation sucks.
Pai3000 Or you could just get them on the Virtual Console or emulate them, or put them on a flash cartridge if you want to play in real hardware... I mean, good'ol Compile doesn't even exist anymore, they aren't making any money off of this game, so if you buy a real copy your money is all going to the hands of scalpers...
+Ruko Michiharu MUSHA is a good game, but I'd agree that gate of Thunder and Soldier Blade are better games. Lords of Thunder as well. Thunder Force IV, and probably even Gunhed.
However, MUSHA has one thing going for it. It's relatively uncommon (not rare) game on a console that's become more of a collector's console in the past two years. Genesis / Mega Drive is the hot thing right now, like the TurboGrafx. Before that it was the NES and SNES. I tied to pick up several games before it took off and barely got away with some good deals, but many games have more than doubled since 2012 / 2013.
As a fan of Compile games, I have most of their domestic titles (and some import). MUSHA, like any game, is only worth what people will pay for it, and right now it seems to be one of the higher selling Genesis games along with an average Zelda clone (Crusader of Centy). What does that say about this hobby? I've yet to find anyone claim that either are the best games on the console.
Zach B Do you have Robo Aleste on the Sega CD? I hear that one is pretty good, it's from the same series as Musha and Space Megaforce, but overall, I'm really not a big fan of Compile's Aleste series, but I can appreciate it anyway... That said though I really love Rude Breaker (also by compile) and it's VERY similar to the Aleste games, except It's not as brutally difficult as their other shmups... This one is only playable via emulation though
+Ruko Michiharu WOW...lol been seeing all ur comments on the channels and like the agreement streak ends here!..by no means do i think M.U.S.H.A is the best shooter out there..but to be honest, and i own all three games....it OUTCLASSES both gate of thunder and soldier blade (any of the three hudson games honestly) easily. I spilled my coffee when i read this!!!!!! :-P
P.S. i played robo aleste thru emulation and its pretty badass. i dunno where it fits in the series..but there is another "ghost soldier (or maybe knight?) spriggan" that i also finished thru emulation for the pcengine CD and thats prolly the best shooter in my book. Mind u its not as hard as other shooters, so its perfect for wussies like me.
Anyone looking to spend $100+ just to play musha really should just use that money on an everdrive. You'll be able to expose yourself to hundreds of great games on the original hardware, broaden your horizons and expand your taste
+charvelgtrs +viewtifuljoe99 I agree too. I used to collect any game I enjoyed, for any system... until I realized that if I sold off my cartridges and replaced them with Everdrives I'd have thousands of dollars left over. Of course, a lot of that ended up going into other hardware I didn't already own, but I'd rather have a Neo Geo CD and a nice MAME cabinet than a complete NTSC 32X library. ;)
+charvelgtrs I would use an everdrive on just the games I can't afford, like M.U.S.H.A. Just to hear and play that amazing Soundtrack on my orignal Sega Genesis :)
I would LOVE to see more videos like this. Great Vid!
Looks fantastic, but it's hard to justify the price when you can get several excellent shooters on Genesis (several of which being better) for the same price. It's often only people that own it and didn't pay current price for it that say "it's absolutely worth it"(same with other extremely expensive games). I love shooters, but I wish their was even a shred of objectivity here.
sounds about right, i got mine in like 2007 for $60 on ebay, that was when most of the auctions were around $100-$150, the price these days is insane tho, but yeah the game is amazing, up there with the best soundtracks on the genesis, it's a game you will come back to a lot, its fun.
Man...I can't believe it. I'm actually starting to miss that table.
Never played it. My favorite shooter is Darius Twin on snes as well as Axelay. Both underrated
Love and own Darius Twin!
You could invite a time machine and go back in time to when the game was a normal price.
This game is worth it. My mom, yes my mom - she was addicted to this game. It’s a great looking game and the music is what stood out for me. It’s really aged decently. Damn this game is tough!
As much as i dig MUSHA (and the Aleste series as a whole), i've always preferred the Sega CD Robo Aleste game over it, and it doesn't cost nearly as much.
Though, hearing your soundtrack story is really cool, and i can certainly see why it means as much to you as it does!
+GunstarHeroes777 Robo Aleste is great too, very similar, but I always preferred MUSHA but I'm more emotionally attached to MUSHA.
It always seems like emotional attachment is a big piece. I mean, its the reason i started collecting and the reason i do anything i do in the hobby.
My heart belongs to the Sega CD, so my preference sways that way : )
robo aleste is rising you can still get it cheap Around $60 if you get lucky but it's becoming a $200 game, its another game that was like $20 in 2007.
I didn't know Musha was getting expensive; it's my #1 pick for shoot 'em ups. Glad my pa bought it way back when.
Musha (muša) in latvian means - fly :) !
No game is worth that kind of money if there is a good emulation to be had for very little money.
Wii VC has MUSHA and that is good enough for me.
The reason retro gaming has become a matter of social class is simply because people keep paying more than they should.
MUSHA is awesome but is probably one of the HARDEST games on the Genesis (along with TRUXTON). My favorite shooter in the console is actually GAIARES because despite being also hard is actually not as difficult as the first two games I mentioned.
I was in a one of my regular thrift stores and saw a copy of MUSHA in the back of the case so I quickly find an employee without even looking at the rest of the case. Turns out it was a 6 pak with the top label slightly torn and yellowed. No joke thanks to the lighting and bad angle it look exactly like the top label. Most expensive game I own is a complete Mega Man for the game gear. I should be really excited about it but I'm just not a Mega Man fan. When I saw it went for 500 for a complete copy my eyes bugged out. Other expensive titles I have are a boxed SNES Ogre Battle and a PS1 copy of Brigandine.
Anyone can live without paying such a crazy price for an outdated video game. There are so many pleasures in life which cost nothing or next to nothing.
+Nope Relevant username!
Could always check the prices of the import variants.
Japanese imports are usually way cheaper than the western variants because of how screwed the market is. Plus you don’t get the western Gunbustafied boxart.
The thing about MUSHA is, it's really hard to find an experience like this on any other 16-bit platform. Space Megaforce is cool but it's not even in the same league in my personal opinion (Aesthetic wise. Ironically they both are apart of the Aleste series). Between the cool art style and great soundtrack, MUSHA is really one of a kind. It's also nice to see a Sega Genesis game get appreciated monetarily. If this game was on the SNES it would be worth close to a grand. Aero FIghters CIB is worth $900 and that game isn't close to as good as MUSHA.
HCG Best show on RUclips!
4 years ago I saw one at a "Half Priced Books" for $79 and passed. oh thnap!
im glad i have this boxed since a kid.
Discovered this game through emulators. Was downloading games and came across an acronym that was intriguing. Downloaded it and it blew my expectations straight to the Horsehead Nebula.
Great shit right h-yah!
As of right now this game has 7 bids at around $190 with a week left. Crazy!
@Jake Allison depends on the game for me. Something like earthbound or super Metroid might be worth the price for all of the gameplay you get in them.
Great now the prices are going to double, what am I talking about? Only Aaron Stapish has that ability!;) Great video Johnny!
I definitely believe it is. I bought it twice because needing money forced me to sell it the first time. The game and music is fantastic. I don't have the case and manual, but it doesn't matter.
I been loving that game since 90
I really liked MUSHA. Owned it, played it, and traded it away. Would I pay those prices to replay it again it today?...no way Jose! Shooters have always been a niche genre even then, but nowadays I don't understand why it's so expensive when there are plenty of comparable games that aren't nearly as much. Great topic:)
Love the Aleste series of games, do not have a copy of this one however (and Super Aleste on SNES). I am lucky enough to have both versions for MSX 2 however.
I just bought the MD version for $11.
MobileDecay Does it work on a regular genesis? I’m thinking of buying that version.
I am actually against game scalpers and over the top prices in EBay, but the positive thing in all this is that maybe the actual copyright holders for this and many other RENOVATION games will notice how interest in the game has renewed and make a compilation or something for recent consoles...
subbed and liked, ya musha is on my list for sure with the mix of anime and pure firepower its a grail item for most collectors, great vids peace and strength from the Game Viking
I'm watching in 2024 (3 days before 2025).. and when you said "This games costs over.. OVER $100.." I almost spit out my drink...
damn, this brings me back
Great video and I agreeeee!!!
Kuddos to you having Mass Effect 2 Collector's edition in your game library !! and now that I've seen about MUSHA I want to play it -_- lol good video !
i'm french, (38 YO, i own a genesis cartridge of it) and as a european gamer, my pal version is 50hz, not 60hz so not only the game was slower , but also the music....and i looooooved this amazing musics!
i mean i prefer the slower version, it sounds much too fast in ntsc versions!!!
Anyway, golden age of the megadrive... a classic!
Musha is pretty kickass. In the lower echelon of prices, like $100 or less, I'd say it is worth it. I don't really think a Sega Genesis game really is worth more than that myself though. It is definitely one of the best SHMUPs from the 16 bit era. I'm fine with emulators myself anymore, and would be more than willing to buy the games legally, but sadly a lot of these old games don't get published much... unless it's from Sega then they'll publish it on 50 different platforms lol.
Sadly, I don't own M.U.S.H.A, but I do have a copy of Robo Aleste, CIB :)
+Matthew J. Boone u Live in pal territory ?
Mrvitosound I don't. I'm in North America.
+Matthew J. Boone so... ?
Gold Roger I don't know why he asked me, but why are you saying "so...?"?
You said you do have a copy of Robo Aleste, CIB.. And I said.. SO ?
MUSHA is amazing, one of my favorite games of all time! Sadly its cost prohibitive for most. It did come out on the original Wii Virtua console
Great game, must have. You also need to have the little figurine of the mech you play as in the game :).
Only worth it to the collector who really wants it. The value is only what people make it. I've played it. I would not pay $500 for it. I would not even pay $100.
I feel you, musha for my just isn't worth it, it's a great shooter, but since then there's been a hell ton of shooters released that are way better and way cheaper.
M.U.S.H.A is a spinoff from the Aleste series, what I understand are the MSX2 versions the best versions.
@shiningwizard327
Same here, I collect retro games but exclusively only a handful that I consider timeless, ones that I know I I love and will regularly come back to over and over again. I don't understand people who horde games just for the sake of having them. Personally, I think going for complete collections like some people do, is the height of absurdity
it sells for $400 CIB. loose cart is over $100
Thanx for bumping the price even further XD
Just sold mine for 500. Totally worth it.
In 90's we had so many shooters that I remember M.U.S.H.A. as just another ordinary game of the genre. It didn't catch my attention.
A "signed autograph" haha
I have a copy of it I am deciding what to do. Is it excellent, but I see the price so I am hesitant to let go of it or sell it. I am tempted to do a tournament for my copy, if it would lead to something. My copy is in good shape.
and this is the reason why many games stay out of reasonable price ranges.
if people bought collectors games. they don't care about the gameplay. they'd play it on emulators and I believe this is on the virtual console
why this game isn't on the sonic ultimate genesis collection is beyond me.
+LucifersKall ....licensing rights probably
Because Sonic didn't have enough rings to afford this game.
I saw an ebay seller list Killer instinct on the Snes for £900 because it was boxed and "mint". These people are quite literally insane.
Now that looks like my kind of game!
Nice, Johhny what is your favorite artist?
I think this is your best video! Best Genesis game 4sho
There's only a handful of games I paid over $100 for: Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy III, and Shining Force III, and those were all complete and in great condition. I have a hard time paying more than $60 for any game, no matter how great, especially because of the existence of emulators.