NEW 2013 Dodge Charger R/T straight pipes LOUD!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 сен 2013
  • brand new 2013 dodge charger with corsa straight pipes.
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  • @justinrush5730
    @justinrush5730 9 лет назад +109

    Sounds bad ass. Anybody that says otherwise is jealous.

    • @jeffrey-f
      @jeffrey-f 9 лет назад +12

      ehh not really

    • @josephgiambrone1723
      @josephgiambrone1723 5 лет назад +2

      Absolutely yes really!!!

    • @jordanh1828
      @jordanh1828 4 года назад

      How much does this cost roughly?

    • @themechanicred
      @themechanicred 4 года назад

      Yeah jealous because it can get walked by a stock ecoboost 😂

    • @snowwhitehemi3221
      @snowwhitehemi3221 3 года назад +2

      @@themechanicred stock eco boost? Lmfaoooo try again

  • @dangerzone24
    @dangerzone24 7 лет назад +10

    sounds just plain beautiful

  • @DaBoss86
    @DaBoss86 3 года назад +2

    That idle is what I'm looking for💪🏿💪🏿

  • @Jaredm229
    @Jaredm229 9 лет назад +6

    Your neighbors must love you! :)

  • @DaleLeggette07
    @DaleLeggette07 7 лет назад +14

    sounds damn good, wish my charger sounds like that!!!! and for the haters no it doesn't mess up your engine and you don't lose gas mileage

  • @angelicatorres442
    @angelicatorres442 10 лет назад +1

    Love my 2013 Charger ♥♡

  • @504girl7
    @504girl7 10 лет назад +17

    it sounds like a tiger i love it i want some on my 2013 R/T charger

  • @Scott04duramax
    @Scott04duramax 9 лет назад +25

    Sounds great man.. don't listen to all of these prius driving dipshits..

  • @JohnCummings0109
    @JohnCummings0109 9 лет назад +17

    Lol, i watched your video about 6 months ago, about a day after i bought my phantom black base r/t, then straight piped it. First thing i felt was lack of power at the get go, but top end, was amazing, 70+mph door to door with my buddys srt8 charger (6.1). I did eventually up the pipe size from cat back to 2.5" and added spintec pro street 6000 mufflers, that made a world of difference on the 0-60. Mpgs gained anout 5 in the city, 6 hwy to 26, loved it. After my exhuast i went with an aem brute force ram air intake with diablo dcx tuner, and now have swapped my 2.65 rear diff for a mopar rear diff with 3.92 gear, and srt8 axles. If you plan anything big, definatly look into a gear change, im pretty sure youve got 2.65 as well.

    • @mrhyde0705
      @mrhyde0705 9 лет назад

      Got a video of the straight pipes?im thinking of ditcjing my flows on my rt

    • @JohnCummings0109
      @JohnCummings0109 9 лет назад

      Sounds identicle to this car, i think i do on facebook, but not save to my phone, i do gave some vids of new setup.

    • @mrhyde0705
      @mrhyde0705 9 лет назад

      Might deleye the mufflers theyre too quiet xD

    • @JohnCummings0109
      @JohnCummings0109 9 лет назад

      Suck Mydick definitely, id keep resonators, the drone at hwy really sucks straightpiped.

    • @smithjoe5179
      @smithjoe5179 9 лет назад

      How exactly does that stuff give you better gas mileage?

  • @TonyBlanco170
    @TonyBlanco170 10 лет назад

    SOUNDS GREAT!!!! GOOD JOB!

  • @MrTiger310
    @MrTiger310 8 лет назад +1

    great video! my mpgs went up when I straight piped mine. get 18-20 city 27-31 highway. not bad for a v8 lol

  • @iamdemoris769
    @iamdemoris769 4 года назад

    This mtf sounds so nice

  • @Kayseus
    @Kayseus 6 лет назад

    Chargers like this look like sneaky undercover cars when they don’t have spoilers 🌚

  • @jbcom2416
    @jbcom2416 4 года назад

    gorgeous gorgeous!!!

  • @BingBangBrine
    @BingBangBrine 6 лет назад

    Sounds awesome

  • @mauriciovaldiviegil1866
    @mauriciovaldiviegil1866 10 лет назад

    really nice bud i will b doing something like that soon on my daytona , i got some good stuff all ready

  • @andrew.t.gerardo
    @andrew.t.gerardo  10 лет назад +14

    its a corsa catback and then we gutted the resos and mufflers

  • @johnespino5871
    @johnespino5871 6 лет назад

    Damn I want mine to sound like that

  • @s1093lover
    @s1093lover 10 лет назад

    Damm love it 😍

  • @blackice7408
    @blackice7408 5 лет назад +1

    That deep burble and rumble is perfect. Exactly what im looking for. How much was the pipes + the installation

  • @dantesdesignsfivem
    @dantesdesignsfivem 5 лет назад +1

    Bro sounds like its cammed sounds mean💪🏽

    • @jeepjoseph9036
      @jeepjoseph9036 4 года назад

      I think its only the stock 260 duration cam if you listen to it

  • @jeepjoseph9036
    @jeepjoseph9036 5 лет назад

    Gonna get straight pipes when my warranty is up

  • @blackice7408
    @blackice7408 6 лет назад

    It sounds just like the 2015 scatpack

  • @gengee21
    @gengee21 10 лет назад

    Sick,, just sick

  • @ZERO_42069
    @ZERO_42069 7 лет назад

    I miss my challenger it was straight piped too lol

  • @Cubanazo1975
    @Cubanazo1975 10 лет назад

    Awesome !

  • @Darknights23
    @Darknights23 5 лет назад

    O wow that’s awesome

  • @colinnoelle3569
    @colinnoelle3569 7 лет назад

    Sounds like a truck when it was idling haha

  • @randyperez5101
    @randyperez5101 8 лет назад +2

    Hey man that sounds like a monster how did u get it to sound like that like is it just straight piped and if so did u take the cats off

  • @hemi5.7awdpursuit5
    @hemi5.7awdpursuit5 2 года назад

    I have cop edition V8 370hp I’m definitely thinking of same idea

  • @johnanderson60
    @johnanderson60 9 лет назад

    NICE!

  • @MaxDudek
    @MaxDudek 9 лет назад

    Damn that's nice. What do your neighbors think haha

  • @vinnieg9910
    @vinnieg9910 10 лет назад +4

    whats the exact pipes set up you have? you have one of the best sounding chargers out there.

  • @krisandkristi75
    @krisandkristi75 8 лет назад

    How does this sound on the frwy? Would you mind doing a rolling video from inside?

  • @randybarnhill3098
    @randybarnhill3098 2 года назад +2

    Effing Hell Yeah, that's what I want mine to sound like. What did it cost to have it done?

  • @andrew.t.gerardo
    @andrew.t.gerardo  10 лет назад +2

    the corsa exhaust was 1400 and then he gutted the resos and mufflers soo probably in all 1600-1700

  • @alvindeleon8245
    @alvindeleon8245 7 лет назад

    are you in albuquerque? how do you pass inspection there with no mufflers?

  • @salahabdoun6694
    @salahabdoun6694 7 лет назад +1

    I have a corsa extreme can I straight pipe it to have this loud beasty sound...!!

  • @911Estyle
    @911Estyle 7 лет назад

    This is how it has to sound the proper sound

  • @youngbuck388
    @youngbuck388 8 лет назад +1

    can u post wat u did to this car please man would help alot

  • @MoparGuy1625
    @MoparGuy1625 8 лет назад

    Did you change our your stock HID Bulbs?

  • @brandonpryormusic
    @brandonpryormusic 9 лет назад

    That's what American muscle is supposed to sound like.

  • @MiTorreon30
    @MiTorreon30 10 лет назад

    Dude is there anyway u can show what U Have under. I have a Charger and i want it to sound like that. Thank You Man.

  • @IRoYaILTY
    @IRoYaILTY 10 лет назад

    Thinking of buying an 07 Charger r/t 5.7L HEMI V8. Has 90k miles i'm curious with an upgraded exhaust and new air filters how many miles could this car realistically handle? I don't want it to blow up and have to pay 10k at 150k. I will flex it but mostly drive on the highways. Any advice would be much appreciated!

  • @cr0yd3
    @cr0yd3 10 лет назад

    Wish they sold these in the UK. You can import an SRT8 for only $60,000.

  • @MattLarson440
    @MattLarson440 10 лет назад

    Corsa doesn't produce straight pipes for this car, only cat back. Would you know anything else about the exhaust?

  • @n0rth3rnb0yz2
    @n0rth3rnb0yz2 6 лет назад

    Is it just straight pipes? Or mid muffler delete to straight pipe? Sounds healthy man and damn sexy

  • @betsyparks7779
    @betsyparks7779 5 лет назад

    Can you have striaght pipes with mini race bullets

  • @timmcinnes7944
    @timmcinnes7944 5 лет назад

    My dumbass got headphones in fucking with the blunt and shit

  • @kraljazvonimira5448
    @kraljazvonimira5448 8 лет назад

    holy shit

  • @angelchavez8565
    @angelchavez8565 7 лет назад

    Does this effect the emissions in anyway?

  • @302monsterenergy7
    @302monsterenergy7 9 лет назад

    Can I give it 2 likes lol love it but I couldn't drive around everywhere with str8 pipes I just ordered slp loudmouth exhaust for my charger I'm be happy with that

  • @85oscarin
    @85oscarin 9 лет назад

    Sounds badd a$$ .. im in the process of purchasing a 2012 rt.. hows the sound inside? it doesnt bother you or anything.. ? Just curious

  • @juanjoseromanacosta3452
    @juanjoseromanacosta3452 2 года назад

    ♥️

  • @DiddyBop_
    @DiddyBop_ 7 лет назад

    #TEAMDUMPTRUCK

  • @photographystuff
    @photographystuff 10 лет назад

    where'd you get those exhaust tips?

  • @autisticwarlord2987
    @autisticwarlord2987 6 лет назад

    Is it 345 I wonder how it sound for my big block

  • @miaees
    @miaees 10 лет назад

    what u mean by gutted resos and mufflers u just simply had them removed right?

  • @archiehenry5710
    @archiehenry5710 7 лет назад

    do you have resonators on?

  • @dariussmith12373
    @dariussmith12373 6 лет назад

    What kind of tips are those?

  • @mr.boostang2064
    @mr.boostang2064 8 лет назад +1

    hows the drone on the hwy? im planning on doing this but I've heard it can be unbearable when the Eco mode kicks in.

    • @NickBraun35
      @NickBraun35 7 лет назад

      Stephen C. Mine is straight piped also and the drone is pretty bad on the highway if I'm going over 70 when eco kicks in

  • @Ccro94
    @Ccro94 10 лет назад

    any one else thinks it sounds like a powerstroke backing up lol?

  • @jalenhoward7129
    @jalenhoward7129 6 лет назад

    What size tips are those

  • @Brevokh
    @Brevokh 10 лет назад

    Your Charger is fucking sexy.
    To hell with all the Nissan owners calling this shit a four door suddan.

  • @horaciodavalos4382
    @horaciodavalos4382 6 лет назад

    straight pipes or delete which is better

  • @LuisEsparza34
    @LuisEsparza34 5 лет назад

    What size are the tips?

  • @RandomVids519
    @RandomVids519 9 лет назад

    straight pipe thats no cat or res right?

  • @jeepjoseph9036
    @jeepjoseph9036 5 лет назад

    What's your setup

  • @mortonfamily8609
    @mortonfamily8609 Год назад +1

    Real life GTA 5

  • @Tkruse23
    @Tkruse23 10 лет назад

    I love it, i want my v6 to sound nice, so thinking of straight pipes or super44s/10s. Arent Straight pipes illegal in Cali?

    • @GeeeBeeee
      @GeeeBeeee 10 лет назад +2

      Fuck California and their restrictive laws. We used to be the cruising state of muscle cars and now we're full of pussies in Priuses and bikes stealing lanes! My homeboy has had straight piped Mercedes' and the police didn't give two shits.

    • @Tkruse23
      @Tkruse23 10 лет назад +1

      im gonna, switch to Xpipe then straight pipe to my cherrybomb glasspacks

    • @JA-hc4vs
      @JA-hc4vs 10 лет назад

      I have straight pipes on my charger for years now not 1 cop has said anything. i live in southern cali

    • @beardlessjj
      @beardlessjj 9 лет назад

      Think in your head of something fun or that you enjoy... got it? Ya it's probably illegal in the state of California. Lived here for almost 8 years. Straight pipe on my truck straight pipe on my sold motorcycle. I have never been pulled over for noise. However you will not be allowed to smog it so regester in here is a pain.

  • @GabrielGilministries
    @GabrielGilministries 8 лет назад

    Dude nice diesel car you have there

  • @ray6.488
    @ray6.488 4 года назад

    Just straight pipe

  • @shizambam24
    @shizambam24 10 лет назад

    how much did this cost?

  • @andrew.t.gerardo
    @andrew.t.gerardo  10 лет назад +1

    corsa

  • @MrBloodguns
    @MrBloodguns 5 лет назад +1

    DUDE WTFFFFF WHATS THE SETUP HOLY SHIIIIII IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THE BEST SOUND ABD THIS SHIII IT PLSSSSS RESPONSD😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @JimmyD76
      @JimmyD76 5 лет назад

      It's called a V8 and straight pipes. Most people don't understand that gives you the best sound out of a V8 period the end! :)

    • @Xlldl
      @Xlldl 5 лет назад

      @@JimmyD76 oh it's more than just a straight pipe. The straight pipe alone sounds different than this. This has a deep tone to it.

  • @erickcastellon2766
    @erickcastellon2766 3 года назад

    Is it bad to straight pipe a car ??

  • @bigtencommuinty7440
    @bigtencommuinty7440 5 лет назад

    What’s your set up. Bc my opinion of a straight pipe is no cats no mufflers just a straight pipe back. And to others it just mean no mufflers

    • @chrisfordyce8420
      @chrisfordyce8420 5 лет назад

      That's actually not your opinion lol that's the real definition of straight pipe. I have no cats or anything besides mufflers, yet people call mine straight piped. That isn't correct either 😅

  • @SouthTxAngler
    @SouthTxAngler 3 года назад +1

    Eww you didn’t let it warm up before reversing💔 still loud tho

  • @osomaobama9437
    @osomaobama9437 10 лет назад +8

    How did this affect gas mileage and power?!?!? I love your garage!! Charger and dirt bikes, exactly what I'm aiming for. All you needed was a hot girl in there and this becomes hardcore porn. Very very nice!

    • @RandomVids519
      @RandomVids519 9 лет назад +1

      you would get terrible gas milage from more air flow for sure and loss of probably 20hp

    • @goodinsrt8
      @goodinsrt8 9 лет назад

      Random Videos probably would actually loose torque.

    • @americanmuscle3117
      @americanmuscle3117 9 лет назад +2

      Random Videos You would actually lose torque in the low end of the spectrum such as 1-2k RPM's but that can be fixed with a high stall converter. And if you really want to make it meaner throw some 3.92 or as an overkill 4.10 gears and that thing will SCREAM and it won't lose torque off the start thanks to the high stall converter. I feel sorry for who you race though cause if you don't beat them you'll certainly freak them out with this set-up lol.

    • @jessiehawes5062
      @jessiehawes5062 9 лет назад +3

      11Elephats that's what im saying, all these people are stupid. more airflow in or out=more power, how do they not understand this.

    • @Twix2013PSN
      @Twix2013PSN 5 лет назад

      The problem with these hemis as they like to scavenge,if you straight pipe them you're going to lose a ton of torque they're not like a Chevy where you could put a big 3 inch straight pipe exhaust on it and it would more power down....

  • @oscarcortez4034
    @oscarcortez4034 9 лет назад

    I have a 12 charger rt. Stock exhaust but yours sounds badass. How can i make it sound like yours? What did you Remove?

    • @LT4_Gio28
      @LT4_Gio28 9 лет назад

      Replace the cat with a pipe take out the muffler and replace that with a pipe and resonator with a pipe and your going it have one bad ass charger

    • @aab434
      @aab434 9 лет назад

      Not a smart idea
      Straight piping cars removes any back pressure that the car gets
      This can burn up youre heads and you can eventually blow a rod through the hood or blow a piston

    • @joepetty5065
      @joepetty5065 9 лет назад

      Leave the cat alone. I would say remove resonators and look into sport mufflers. Any cat back system would be good so you'll keep back pressure and still be able to pass emissions if you have testing.

    • @jessiehawes5062
      @jessiehawes5062 9 лет назад +1

      Alex Brick what the hell is all this talk about back pressure, an engine does not need pressure in the exhaust in fact it needs to have a scavenging effect, this creates a vacuum which helps pull the exhaust out. I have never heard of a motor overheating because it has less exhaust in the pipes, in fact you should shove a potato in your exhaust pipe and tell me what happens when it builds back pressure. Is that a picture of a ford? now it all makes sense.

    • @aab434
      @aab434 9 лет назад

      youre a fucking idiot
      without back pressure you burn up all you're valves. also I'm not a ford guy.
      Okay, so you put a potato in an exhaust pipe
      what happens?
      it builds up pressure
      Put a potato in ur mouth so u can stop talking like a fool and what happens.
      You cant breathe...
      When you hit the gas.
      air comes into the engine and exhaust gases come out the tailpipe.
      its like blowing air and limiting you're self from breathing back in.
      My brothers GT is straight piped.

  • @TooManyChoices1
    @TooManyChoices1 9 лет назад

    +Windycitywarrior77 that has been the case every time I've raced one(any R/T charger or challenger), track or street! Somebody seems but hurt their dodge gets eaten by a 26,000 dollar v6 secretary car with a couple bolt-ons lmao!

    • @jimm6673
      @jimm6673 8 лет назад

      +Lee Warnock LMAO!

  • @stevenjacobs80
    @stevenjacobs80 8 лет назад

    hey in this video how do you get your car loud it sound like a diesel

  • @retro_headly7s648
    @retro_headly7s648 7 лет назад +4

    Whats is this straight pipes Called !!!😨😨😨

  • @mrhyde0705
    @mrhyde0705 9 лет назад

    It sounds worse than my v6 when I straight piped it.i just cut the resos off my hemi and it's perfect

    • @CharlieB310
      @CharlieB310 9 лет назад +2

      V6 Charger/Challenger is for pussies or for people who won't spend a couple thousand bucks extra to get a V8. #RT/SRTforlife

    • @OddTimeMan
      @OddTimeMan 8 лет назад

      +Suck Mydick There's nothing like the sound of a V8. V6's just don't cut it.

  • @LorenKyleDiedrich
    @LorenKyleDiedrich 9 лет назад

    I only had my resonators removed & it sounds pretty much the same

    • @paryboy84
      @paryboy84 9 лет назад

      Does deleting the resonators increase highway drone too much?

    • @LorenKyleDiedrich
      @LorenKyleDiedrich 9 лет назад

      It does have that done at around 2500 rpm but it smooths out.

    • @paryboy84
      @paryboy84 9 лет назад

      Oh cool .... Thanks !

    • @JuhsBlaze
      @JuhsBlaze 8 лет назад

      +Paritosh Uttarwar I'm sorry but I highly doubt his car sounds like this if all he did was a resonator delete.

    • @paryboy84
      @paryboy84 8 лет назад

      King Kamehameha Can you please elaborate?

  • @TooManyChoices1
    @TooManyChoices1 9 лет назад +1

    +LeeWarnock
    I never claimed to be "cool", I claimed to be faster than every charger rt and challenger rt I've raced. So I'm claiming 375 ho R/T's (any model) are slow , loke you see the difference? lmao. I don't care if its a sedan, sport coupe, or SUV , they try to race me and think" its a v6 with 305 hp, watch my 370 hp hemi kill it Cletus!!", and lose lol!
    I don't mind being laughed at by 5.0's , they are faster than RT challengers and chargers too, but then so is a bolt on civic lmao!

    • @jimm6673
      @jimm6673 8 лет назад

      That's funny, the only V6 mustang that's ever beat me was one with a turbo, traction bar and stripped out to save wieght so no suprise there as I've got too much mass in a Charger to catch up how ever only the 2011 GTs and up have been able to beat me and that's becasue of a speedlimiter issue which the GTs don't have.

  • @rishimohan8904
    @rishimohan8904 9 лет назад

    very nice... too bad the license plate frame brought it a few notches down !!!! :)
    I can't decided what to start building for my son...... 5.0?? SS?? or an R/T. All great cars. Truth be told.... nothing sounds like a Dodge. Nothing.

  • @stevenjacobs80
    @stevenjacobs80 8 лет назад

    hey and this video how do you get your car this loud like a diesel

  • @rubinmccullors3074
    @rubinmccullors3074 7 лет назад

    how do I order that set up?

    • @arturocamacho2609
      @arturocamacho2609 7 лет назад

      Rubin McCullors take it to a muffler shop and tell then you want a muffler delete

  • @19mdeleon85
    @19mdeleon85 9 лет назад

    How much would this mod run?

  • @CARTOONx22x
    @CARTOONx22x 9 лет назад +2

    They try n make the quieter and less loud and ppl add this shit

    • @RandomVids519
      @RandomVids519 9 лет назад

      your point

    • @kaydentrujillo5153
      @kaydentrujillo5153 9 лет назад +6

      Lol actually he didn't add anything; he removed stuff.

    • @CARTOONx22x
      @CARTOONx22x 9 лет назад +1

      Kayden Trujillo addition by subtraction then...

  • @TooManyChoices1
    @TooManyChoices1 9 лет назад

    A V6 Mustang pulls up to you.. "Hey man that thing sounds beast!!" You rev the snot out of it light turns green and...your 375 hp R/T proceeds to get raped by a V6 Mustang with 305 HP , oh the shame lmao!!

    • @windycitywarrior71
      @windycitywarrior71 9 лет назад

      TooManyChoices1 not accurate

    • @OddTimeMan
      @OddTimeMan 8 лет назад +1

      +TooManyChoices1 There's nothing like the sound of a V8. V6's just don't cut it. And there's nothing like the torque of a V8. V6's just don't have it. Besides, by definition, muscle cars are supposed to have big powerful engines.

    • @chrisfordyce8420
      @chrisfordyce8420 5 лет назад

      @@OddTimeMan I'm a bit late....but I believe he was referencing the fact that chargers are slow off of the line due to weight lol

  • @Theshoota420
    @Theshoota420 9 лет назад

    Dont straight pipe it sounds stupid on a okder charger sounds good for these newer one get magna flow

  • @jordanh1828
    @jordanh1828 4 года назад

    Don’t see the R/T symbol

  • @03_svt_terminatorcobra20
    @03_svt_terminatorcobra20 9 лет назад +13

    sounds like a diesel, not a muscle car.

    • @joepetty5065
      @joepetty5065 9 лет назад +36

      Diesel engines have a distinct sound. It's just a bigger engine than ford engines, nothing to be scared of.

    • @chrisfordyce8420
      @chrisfordyce8420 5 лет назад

      It's a sedan lol wouldn't call it a muscle car anymore, still nice though.

  • @orasis
    @orasis 8 лет назад +1

    That's a good way to fuck up your engine. Fuel injected systems need a little bit of back pressure to work right.

    • @orasis
      @orasis 8 лет назад

      Except... I'm serious. Read a book, article, whatever on fuel injection.

    • @paul-wd7ht
      @paul-wd7ht 8 лет назад +2

      Carburetor systems need back pressure.. Also, the cat provides more than enough back pressure. And then there's the factor of pipe diameter. The cooler exhaust that's further down the pipe after the cat can cause a little back pressure too.

    • @orasis
      @orasis 8 лет назад

      ***** Cars do not use carburetors anymore....

    • @paul-wd7ht
      @paul-wd7ht 8 лет назад +4

      +orasis Very good! I did not say cars still use them. It was simply for example. That is why backpressure doesn't matter as much anymore. The only ill effect is a loss of a few mpg because the ecu of a fuel injected vehicle will adapt for the difference

    • @orasis
      @orasis 8 лет назад

      ***** Oh, it does matter. Subscribe and watch his car die.

  • @dylanstapleton9933
    @dylanstapleton9933 9 лет назад

    straight pipes on anything are terrible. just not a fan of anything that is just loud and raspy while your barely pushing the gas.

  • @lrichmondebupper2179
    @lrichmondebupper2179 9 лет назад

    Pipes like this are for Attention Seekers
    Sorry nice car though :)

    • @jessiehawes5062
      @jessiehawes5062 9 лет назад

      LRichmonde Bupper no, pipes like that are for v8 American muscle

    • @lrichmondebupper2179
      @lrichmondebupper2179 9 лет назад

      Yes I know but it's already loud enough with a 5.7L Hemi V8 don't ha think? *****

    • @jessiehawes5062
      @jessiehawes5062 9 лет назад +3

      nope

  • @FireManSRTTV
    @FireManSRTTV 9 лет назад

    Sounds terrible. And "DAMN"for what???