This was released on a few different bootleg albums from that same show; I now own over 150 FZ albums and there still is more than double that amount out there
Live material from the early days/band is amazing. This is the first time I've heard this (thank you!) but I can seeing it fit perfectly into a Frank/Mothers show.
Musicians on this tune: Arthur Dyer Tripp III*, Bunk Gardner, Buzz Gardner, Don Preston, Frank Zappa, Ian Underwood, Jimmy Carl Black, Lowell George, Jim "Motorhead" Sherwood*, Roy Estrada. Don Preston was the keyboardist. Bunk, reeds and flute, Buzz, Trumpet, Ian, ???, Lowell, Guitar, Jimmy, Drums, Motorhead, Sax, Roy, Bass.
Thank you for this; I had not heard it before. This is the music of Frank's childhood, which he loved as much as Varese. He said in _The Real Frank Zappa Book_ he didn't care what it was; it was all to him _good music._ Note how even with little more than a bar band, it was tight and grooved and was episodic. Also compare with "Dog Breath": Primer _mi carucha,_ Chevy '39. Going to El Monte Legion Stadium. Pick up on my _weesa,_ she is so divine. Help me stealing hubcaps, wasted all the time. Fuzzy dice; bongos in the back, my ship of love is ready to attack. Won't you please hear my plea?
@@Frunobulax74 Did I say it was a garage band? I'm talking about what was his formative music; this style was part of it. He grew up with it, and it influenced him, and in this he's showing it in Toronto. Oh, I see; I said "little more than a bar band." I was referring to the size, compared to the more orchestral bands he had later.
@@deadman746 - But this was a 10 piece Mothers band that played these 3 songs. A garage band is just starting out and that's why they play in somebody's garage. Garage bands also don't normally have 10 members.
@@Frunobulax74 it sounded like 8 to me, but still, I use the category _bar band_ for bands like The Real Men with 7 who played at Bullwinkle's and Arturo Sandoval's band with 8 who played at Ronnie Scott's. You seem to use it to mean _garage band,_ which to me is smaller. But it's not very important, so you win!
The original Mothers of Invention (1965-1969) has always been my preferred Zappa period and it is a shame that most of their live recordings can only be heard on (not always the best quality sounding) bootleg albums. Hopefully some day the Zappa Family Trust will release a nice M.O.I. boxset!
The ZFT has released a few original MOI sets. & now that Universal now own the 'Vault' we can only hope they take the time & care to 'mine' more tasty nuggets that are surely lurking there.
Welll...How big is the Zappa iceberg? Here's an idea...I have been collecting Zappa since 1978. I have 200 albums....170 cd's----80 hours of concert and interview footage... about 500 audience tapes, and I constantly look at youtube... and until tonight... I never heard this. And I'm reading in the comments... I'm not alone. That's how big the iceberg is.
Happy belated Mothers' Day! This show took place a week after MY Mum's 35th birfday! How apt! What ape? This was the old Masonic Temple downtown, Led Zep's first Tronna gig was there, tons of shit's happened there, concerts, a late-night talk show, closed and reopened numerous times, never been in it, passed by a thousand times. Cool track, Lowell George, huh? Also cool. Band sounds great, he always had great players, no exception here, loved the non-transition, a drum fill and we're away on the 2nd leg of the journey, one more and we can mount a camera on it., Sifa, the dancer of the duo , almost busted out some MMA moves, lmao, and Dan, eyes slitted, (into the edibles, D?) grooving in their own ways. I loved the Latin feel of the Corrido too, Pachucos are Mexikid gang members evidently, so sending them off to a relatively genteel 'Merkan sock hop beats, say a West-Side story knife or gang fight. Lastly, some blooz, funkiest sax sound ever, yep, wonder if the first guitar solo was LG? Heard a teensy scrap of slide when I wasn't expecting it. 'kay, byee. tyvm.
Dan and Sifa - This is actually 3 songs from Frank's teen years that were played in Toronto, 2/23/69. This first song is Corrido Rock, then Pachuko Hop followed by Behind the Sun. None of these are Frank Zappa songs but since he liked them, he played them.
@Steve Dotwood - This is actually 3 songs from Frank's teen years that were played in Toronto, 2/23/69. This first song is Corrido Rock, then Pachuko Hop followed by Behind the Sun. None of them are Zappa songs but since he liked them, he played them.
This guy would take a razor blade and cut and paste notes to blank music sheets. What most folks don't know aside from his potty humor he was a very serious composer and an amazing guitar player. Never drank nor used drugs, either, except for his love of burnt weenies, black coffee and full strength Winstons!
Funny what he played before he had many of his own songs. Projecting back, I miss the segues and eyebrows of the 70-80s. Wish he'd waltzed the Corrido, like traditional. Thanks for posting.
Interesting. I asked my Latina wife if she heard of Corrida & she said yeah, they danced to that all the time. Her college friends went to Juarez dance clubs long ago when that was safe.
Not heard this one...good representation of those musical styles...UNCLE MEAT....Is a shortening of "UNCLEAN MEAT" who was a very generous young girl who liked bands in those days.....this was very early mothers of invention who were although very good in comparison to most live bands in that day...but Frank would say they were right down in the swamp as far as real top muso's could deliver....Most of the recordings in those days were studio musicians standing in for the band like the monkee's did...The mother's did record themselves...Even Joe flow might have to admit that most of the bands(beatles included)has session musicians stand in
Thanks once again guys for this oddity from the Zappa vaults, it smelled like ants to me? Dan you're right about Frank always wanting to put a curve on things and not be basic, he disliked banality in the extreme.... Sifa you always do a great job and your real cool with it, so get some sleep girl! Im off to oscillate wildly and ride a hammerhead horse..... respec.
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Amazing! Never heard this before and I have every Zappa album he released.
This was released on a few different bootleg albums from that same show; I now own over 150 FZ albums and there still is more than double that amount out there
Live material from the early days/band is amazing. This is the first time I've heard this (thank you!) but I can seeing it fit perfectly into a Frank/Mothers show.
For I guy who has been into Zappa for 45 years there is still something new. Love it
Musicians on this tune: Arthur Dyer Tripp III*, Bunk Gardner, Buzz Gardner, Don Preston, Frank Zappa, Ian Underwood, Jimmy Carl Black, Lowell George, Jim "Motorhead" Sherwood*, Roy Estrada. Don Preston was the keyboardist. Bunk, reeds and flute, Buzz, Trumpet, Ian, ???, Lowell, Guitar, Jimmy, Drums, Motorhead, Sax, Roy, Bass.
Thanks for the breakdown Tom!
This version of the band included Lowell George before he formed Little Feat
Nice!
What I love about Frank, even after almost 50 yrs of listening to him, there always will be 'new' stuf I haven't heard yet. Much thanks for this.
Even after he's gone-still genius!
Thank you for this; I had not heard it before.
This is the music of Frank's childhood, which he loved as much as Varese. He said in _The Real Frank Zappa Book_ he didn't care what it was; it was all to him _good music._ Note how even with little more than a bar band, it was tight and grooved and was episodic. Also compare with "Dog Breath": Primer _mi carucha,_ Chevy '39. Going to El Monte Legion Stadium. Pick up on my _weesa,_ she is so divine. Help me stealing hubcaps, wasted all the time. Fuzzy dice; bongos in the back, my ship of love is ready to attack. Won't you please hear my plea?
We're glad you enjoyed Dead Man!
@Dead Man - This was played by The Mothers in Toronto on 2/23/69 and definitely not a garage band.
@@Frunobulax74 Did I say it was a garage band? I'm talking about what was his formative music; this style was part of it. He grew up with it, and it influenced him, and in this he's showing it in Toronto.
Oh, I see; I said "little more than a bar band." I was referring to the size, compared to the more orchestral bands he had later.
@@deadman746 - But this was a 10 piece Mothers band that played these 3 songs. A garage band is just starting out and that's why they play in somebody's garage. Garage bands also don't normally have 10 members.
@@Frunobulax74 it sounded like 8 to me, but still, I use the category _bar band_ for bands like The Real Men with 7 who played at Bullwinkle's and Arturo Sandoval's band with 8 who played at Ronnie Scott's. You seem to use it to mean _garage band,_ which to me is smaller.
But it's not very important, so you win!
The original Mothers of Invention (1965-1969) has always been my preferred Zappa period and it is a shame that most of their live recordings can only be heard on (not always the best quality sounding) bootleg albums. Hopefully some day the Zappa Family Trust will release a nice M.O.I. boxset!
The ZFT has released a few original MOI sets. & now that Universal now own the 'Vault' we can only hope they take the time & care to 'mine' more tasty nuggets that are surely lurking there.
Unexpected surprise
Welll...How big is the Zappa iceberg? Here's an idea...I have been collecting Zappa since 1978. I have 200 albums....170 cd's----80 hours of concert and interview footage... about 500 audience tapes, and I constantly look at youtube... and until tonight... I never heard this.
And I'm reading in the comments... I'm not alone.
That's how big the iceberg is.
I might be wrong, but I believe the keys were Ian Underwood, the new member who introduced himself on Uncle Meat
Of all the 15 thousand 576 Zappa LP's out there Uncle Meat has always been my fav. great to see Sifa's delight when he mentioned its imminent release
Happy belated Mothers' Day! This show took place a week after MY Mum's 35th birfday! How apt! What ape?
This was the old Masonic Temple downtown, Led Zep's first Tronna gig was there, tons of shit's happened there, concerts, a late-night talk show, closed and reopened numerous times, never been in it, passed by a thousand times. Cool track, Lowell George, huh? Also cool. Band sounds great, he always had great players, no exception here, loved the non-transition, a drum fill and we're away on the 2nd leg of the journey, one more and we can mount a camera on it., Sifa, the dancer of the duo , almost busted out some MMA moves, lmao, and Dan, eyes slitted, (into the edibles, D?) grooving in their own ways.
I loved the Latin feel of the Corrido too, Pachucos are Mexikid gang members evidently, so sending them off to a relatively genteel 'Merkan sock hop beats, say a West-Side story knife or gang fight. Lastly, some blooz, funkiest sax sound ever, yep, wonder if the first guitar solo was LG? Heard a teensy scrap of slide when I wasn't expecting it. 'kay, byee. tyvm.
Dan and Sifa - This is actually 3 songs from Frank's teen years that were played in Toronto, 2/23/69. This first song is Corrido Rock, then Pachuko Hop followed by Behind the Sun. None of these are Frank Zappa songs but since he liked them, he played them.
Thanks R!
Frank has a video out called " Does humor belong in music"? Check that out?
Lovely bit of music. Straight forward but pleasantly Zappafied
Thank you. This was on my short list of suggestions
Thanks for being here Richie!
All new to me. I looooved the very first Mexican style part. The rest is just plain old slow R&R, but I like the warm flavor of the sound.
Glad you enjoyed Steve!
@Steve Dotwood - This is actually 3 songs from Frank's teen years that were played in Toronto, 2/23/69. This first song is Corrido Rock, then Pachuko Hop followed by Behind the Sun. None of them are Zappa songs but since he liked them, he played them.
This guy would take a razor blade and cut and paste notes to blank music sheets. What most folks don't know aside from his potty humor he was a very serious composer and an amazing guitar player. Never drank nor used drugs, either, except for his love of burnt weenies, black coffee and full strength Winstons!
That was an electric alto sax.
You 2 are great!!!
So are you Darryl!
Funny what he played before he had many of his own songs. Projecting back, I miss the segues and eyebrows of the 70-80s. Wish he'd waltzed the Corrido, like traditional. Thanks for posting.
What a jam. About 10 minutes in, I realized the latino thing had given way to blues somewhere back there.
Right? All of a sudden we were somewhere else musically!
Haven't heard this one.
New to me too, apart from Pachuco Hop.
Interesting. I asked my Latina wife if she heard of Corrida & she said yeah, they danced to that all the time. Her college friends went to Juarez dance clubs long ago when that was safe.
How beautiful!
And the cigarette dangling from the side of the drummer´s lips.
Sounds like parts of that could be played on a kazoo. Frank was into Pachuco culture and music, although this would be classified as post Pachuco.
☺️we agree about the kazoo☺️
Sifa, Where in Texas?
I'm between Dallas and Fort Worth
@@SightAfterDark Haveca safe stay and travels back to Brooklyn.
Cool try grunion run by Frank Zappa nothing like it.
Sifa _always_ does a good job.
Thanks Donaldb1!
Not heard this one...good representation of those musical styles...UNCLE MEAT....Is a shortening of "UNCLEAN MEAT" who was a very generous young girl who liked bands in those days.....this was very early mothers of invention who were although very good in comparison to most live bands in that day...but Frank would say they were right down in the swamp as far as real top muso's could deliver....Most of the recordings in those days were studio musicians standing in for the band like the monkee's did...The mother's did record themselves...Even Joe flow might have to admit that most of the bands(beatles included)has session musicians stand in
Thanks once again guys for this oddity from the Zappa vaults, it smelled like ants to me? Dan you're right about Frank always wanting to put a curve on things and not be basic, he disliked banality in the extreme.... Sifa you always do a great job and your real cool with it, so get some sleep girl! Im off to oscillate wildly and ride a hammerhead horse..... respec.
Thanks so much Sonic Art!
The band is tight.
Sifa, just be yourself. we enjoy your reactions physical or verbal
Thanks Mark!
OK, since this is NOT a video, the album cover should be in PIP and y'all should be the main frame. Haven't heard this before.
Yeah we’ve figured that out. This was the first remote reaction we did. Next week’s videos will have a better layout
@@SightAfterDark I figured it might be related to y'all being separated.
Here’s the real issue. Why wasn’t Dan twirling around like Sifa? I mean, she brought her best dancing shoes today and everything. 😂
😆Sifa's making up for not being in NY.
Maybe Dan will join in next time☺️!
Long live prince and jimi hendrix, the greatest musicians, hahahaha
This is a bootleg of a radio broadcast. The music and audio quality are excellent, but it would be awesome if the ZFT would give it a proper release.
pretty SNAZZY...heh?
Yep!
ah phooey!
@Zolar Czakl Used to be a big fan of "Hong Kong Phooey!"
@Zolar Czakl was a bit concerned about you, haven't seen your name pop up. hope all is well.
Joe has SOL.....shit on the liver.
@@Joe-Flow - It makes perfect sense that a guy like you would have been a big fan of Hong Kong Phooey.
@@Frunobulax74 Got something against 70's cartoons?
You are so small I can't hardly see your face reactions 😭
we're still working on it. we'll find a way to make us bigger and the RUclips video smaller.
@@SightAfterDark Eat more
😆
Nope, me neither.