450 miles in an old Jag V12 - What could go wrong?
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- Опубликовано: 25 июн 2024
- Join us on an adventure from November 2022, the drive that started it all. Enjoy the magnificent countryside as we cruise around in our Daimler Double Six. As you've spotted from the title, we thought we were absolutely golden - Luci drove like an angel. Watch until the end to see our diagnosis!
Our biggest highlight would have to be Snake Pass - see if you can spot it.
0:00 Drives of a lifetime
1:06 Meet Luci, the Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas
1:58 Cold start
3:03 Fuel efficiency
4:08 Enjoy the drive!
7:33 Everything could go wrong... 
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Thank you very much for the great video. I live in Germany and I have also a regency red Daimler Double Six Serie 3 built in 1992 with only 42.000 miles. I love the old Jag's and this great dreamcar. Thank you Sir William Lyons for the great styling. No other car in the world has more charisma. I am very happy to drive this car. Best regards from Germany!
They are very, very special cars, every journey is an occasion. Lots more about this one to come soon!
@@Aston_Keeper Every journey with this beautiful car is a big pleasure.The Double Six has a very charismatic lines and offers an elegant princely suite. The rolling men's room on wheels! To me, the Double Six serie 3 was the best XJ.
That's funny
The British drive German cars and the Germans drive British cars. Maybe we should all just swap countries. I'd swap my flat in Bradford for a chalet in the black forest any day.
Great car - if maintained well. I had a 350k km car in my hands dome years back. Belonged to a German doctor, who has spent the extra €€ or DMs. The styling however on this XJ is not from William Lyons but the only Jag that has been styled by Pininfarina. I think the best view is from inside over the bonnet.
Cold start ... I could smell that through my screen. The auto-choke is always rather generous when cold. I adore my Series III 92 DD6. The best thing about the car is how you feel driving it. Close the door with that satisfying clunk, drink in the "Jaguar smell", sink into what can only be described as an armchair and enjoy the silence, safe in the knowledge that you have effortless power on-tap when you need it. I wanted one of these since I was a child and I'm privileged to own one
You are absolutely right. It's the one car we have that is without a doubt a keeper!
@@Aston_Keeper I've always had a soft spot for Regency Red but I'm very happy with mine in Jaguar Racing Green.
The V12 series 3 is a proper cruiser car , love it
....as someone who (summer) dailys a V12 XJSC in Northern BC Canada with the nearest town a 210 mile round trip, nothing will go wrong if properly sorted.
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Wonderful car. The Jaguar's novelty of space, grace and pace will never get old. I've always loved these.
Words to live by though!!
Im 56 years old and this has always been my dream car and in this colour if i win the lottery Im going to track this guy down. Thank you for bringing us along awesome 👌.
Keep buying those tickets! And I'll keep looking after it for you 😁
@@Aston_Keeper thank you i will do.
I am happy owning a XJ6 4.2L S3 but a Daimler 2x6 is the pinnacle of S3 ownership. Gorgeous car.
The 4.2 is also a magnificent car 😁
Great to see you taking the old girl out and about, and you took her in the jag as well👍
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Lovely car, they don't make them like this anymore. Love the scenery too.
Yeah I've had some modern Jags, XFR and F Type R, but this is more spectacular everyday!
Great video for the Jag/Daimler lover. Great to hear the history of the V12 and to watch the faults and the fixing of the injector pipes and lights. I’ve had 3 XJ6’s… loved them all. Thanks for the vid.
Thanks! The daimler is now (sadly) for sale on car and classic!
8:30 I bought a xj12 as a joint venture with a friend when it was about three years old , 80000 miles , directors company car so perfect , as new . Drove it sparingly except for a few epic long distance work trips paid by my company . Sold it within a year after looking under the bonnet one day at the mass of tubes and pipes and the word time bomb popping into my mind . It was one of those rare perfect experiences buy enjoy sell ding remember spending a penny apart from fuel but the memories of the silence , the quiet powerful surge , topping out at 145 on a deserted motorway far up in the north will last my lifetime
Absolutely, they are a 150mph car which is mad when you think about it. That intimidating mix of pipes and wires is actually not as bad as you'd imagine. The amount that are simple breathers, balance pipes, or vacuum hoses actually leaves a pretty straightforward engine with only a few sensors onboard. I'll be doing the cam cover gaskets at some point so you'll see, beneath it all, it's actually quite a simple engine. Not like modern multi cam engines with variable timing etc etc
@@Aston_Keeper My own Japanese imported series 3 did have a major oil leak from the front left side cam cover . Gasket cost pence but was a day strip down of the injection pipes to fix the leak as passing years had made it brittle . Car is perfect now and virtualy oiltight .
Jaguar's and Land Rover's in videos are always worthy of subbing to a channel!
Superb drive that demonstrates the all round ability of the XJ12, the ability to move 4 people down rutted single track lanes, through alpine passes and along motorways at more than twice the legal limit whilst delivering supreme comfort. Sadly its thirst makes this an increasingly rare and exclusive experience.
You summarise is perfectly! In near silence and utter comfort! The thirst is inevitable, and I would like a small engined fun car in the fleet one day. But have a feeling that'll have two wheels!
@@Aston_Keeper Would recommend a big Guzzi, I have had several and currently run as my classic a 1100 Sport Corsa injection from 1998, only change I would recommend is fitting lambada sensor with the MyEcu upgrade, as the first gen open circuit injection Guzzi are only a marginal improvement over the carbs.
@@grahamariss2111 oooo sounds like fun! Just back from the MCN London bike show today and sat on some fun stuff!
Gotta love a discount deal in a luxury classic car. Peak experience!
The greatest, most beautiful, most under appreciated car of all time. I own a fully restored ‘81 XJ12. When these are right they are sublime. Awesome video Sir, great choice of music. Reminded me of Goodbye Carolina by Marcus King.
Thank you for your kind words! These are magnificent cars and genuinely make journeys effortless and I'm going to love doing a few jobs on it!
Mine looked ok from 20 or so feet away, had done only 45k miles. In my wisdom I decided to remove every panel, all glass out, new paint to everything on both sides; the worst decision I ever made. It’s all back together and ready for the spring now, but it nearly killed me. Over 40 hours just refitting the screens to achieve the correct results. As for the petrol tanks… don’t do it. Give somebody a grand and let them struggle. Best of luck. Fantastically presented video.
@@petermyers5793 wow!! That's an incredible amount of work. I'll avoid any resto work like that, immense amount of work!
Hi from Sydney, Australia. Good to see a series 3 being well used getting some miles added to it not just hiding somewhere in a shed. I love Jags, and country drives, the scenery in your video is like the Southern Highlands of NSW around 120 miles south of Sydney, they sit higher than Ben Nevis in Scotland making the temperature in summer a little cooler for sheep Graziers. Equally on the other side of the Great Dividing Range (of mountains) on the central western slopes from Bathurst to Wagga Waga near the Victorian border runs the Olympic Hwy for 400 miles. Some of the high ranges here are over 5,000 feet. A very very old part of white settlement in Australia, and all the buildings look as if stolen from the UK and rebuilt in NSW. My mum bought a new MK10 in November 1961 in black with ivory leather picked up from the Jaguar factory in Coventry, used for 6 weeks or so in Britain & Europe & shipped back home to Sydney, kept for 10 years and replaced with a "run-out" last of version in 1971 a 420G/mk10 in dark opalescent gunmetal grey with deep maroon oxblood leather seats, which she drove for 22 years.
I loved mum's mk10 but also the very quality of it, the smells the materials and the sound it made, potently powerful compared to the very basic cars on the roads back then 60 years ago, but I was determined I was going to have one as my first car. As a 6-year-old in 1962 I bought one of each of all 11 colors that the Corgi Toys mk10 came in, they were not played with, but sat in a line on my dressing table. A little while later Nanna's friend the local newsagents had giant sized 1/20th scale plastic friction drive ones in four colors, so I bought one of each and they sat on the dressing table too. Then a couple of years later Spot-On released a mk10 diecast model that was supposedly available and in 4 colors however as a child I could find 2 colors to buy so they also sat on the dressing table. Nanna said as much as you may wish they will not come alive, but they were my motivation. AND just weeks after my 19th birthday I bought a left-hand drive 1965 4.2litre mk10, ONLY affordable as it was LHD and the clock was ticking as it was early 1975 and on 1st July 1976 all LHED vehicles were to be banned from all roads nationally in Australia & would be de-registered for any use. Just six weeks before the cut off de-registration date I found a cheap and neglected donor car to buy & grab all the RHD equipment from with the much-needed assistance from my just retired industrial engineer grandad we did the almighty swap in the May/June mid-year Uni break, beating the de-registration deadline by just 3 weeks. And in my years of ownership racked up 100,000miles on it and sold it to a friend in the Jaguar club whose mk2 leaked fuel, caught alight & burned. He would have liked another mk2 but values had just started to increase & underinsured and a family man he could not afford what was being asked for a decent one. I suggested he buy my mk10 as in reality they are the better car in every way, better steering, better brakes, better & bigger cooling system, more powerful, more room & more creature comforts. When new a fully equipped mk10 was near double the price of the "entry" level Jaguar the mk2.
I have owned 3 now from 1976 until now in 2023. During my ownership of the mk10, I bought a really rare long wheelbase series one XJ6 in a lovely deep soft maroon special order color neither Damson red, nor Regency red. The whole car was a special order car for the owner of CITRA a French constructor of Mega infrastructure for governments, in Australia's case the '70's federal natural gas pipelines & sea floor mounted gas rigs off our shores, He basically wanted a high performance 6 cylinder Daimler VanDen Plas but "dressed" as a Jaguar, so it has a full un-dyed natural leather VanDen Plas interior, Jaguar wheels & badges , it was to replace his 1966 mk10, and like that car it was built with a bronze head for extra performance & equipped with triple SU's at the factory with blanking plates in both sides front mudguards , the right side so a mk10 air filter could be fitted and the left side for a hot climate oversized air conditioning receiver dryer unit. Completed at the Jaguar factory in April 1974 & air freighted here! so he could have it instantly. Bought by me in 1979 & I owned it 33 years, sold it to a friend whose classic car had been written off. When purchased it had 18.200 miles on it , when sold 33yrs later it had 179,000 miles on it. I sold it as I in 2012 I acquired a 1967 mk10/420G via auction from a deceased estate, it had just 52.000miles on it from new, 1 owner elderly doctor with a thick school notebook with every cent or dollar spent on it since new, plus the car was serviced monthly, not by mileage, it drives as if it were new & is the same colors as my original 1965 model, cream with very dark special order oxblood maroon leather & it's not the thin Connolly hide, it's from some specialist leather manufacturer in Scotland, as it's really thick but soft like the leather on a Sperry-Rand boat deck shoe.
All 3 of my Jag's have specifically been bronze head cars, as were my mother's 2, as this wipes out the alloy to steel cool-off differences & head gasket issues, plus these are the hi-po heads used in race cars. From the paperwork that came with my LWB xj6 there was to and from letters from Jaques Antoni & Jaguar, with Jaguar race dept stating the car would have around 300 horsepower when completed, which is more than a standard V12. My mate kept it 10 odd years, but passed away with covid, his wife returned to her native Netherlands and took the xj6 too, however put it up for sale via a specialist due to the high Euro fuel prices, a true specialist who realized it was a very special well looked after car that although high miles, it had been totally serviced, I sent her my full service records for 33 years & it had the 5year Jaguar mastercare records prior. The Dutch car dealer called me as he stated that with those unbroken records it gives any new continental owner a stunning complete history & will add to the sale value and shows with absolute clarity that if a car is loved & totally serviced it will not show its age regardless of the miles travelled as it is virtually a rolling restoration from day one. As a doctor I could charge two of my classic cars as business registrations and declare all operating costs as a tax loss/claim so NO EXPENSE WAS SPARED. When sold they handed Yeunette 35,000 euros for it.
Premium 98 octane unleaded here is between $6.50 & $7 (aussie $ per gallon), my dad was into planes & owned form new 2 Cesena's, a 1959 wing over top, old faithful and when I was a kid in '68 bought a new style super powerful twin prop early 400 series, I kept both for a long time after his passing & needing 102 octane leaded, I simply ordered it in bulk in the 20 liter cans using most of it for my classic cars. When buying it this way & not from Shell or BP garages, it's even cheaper, just cents over $5 per gallon when you do the math's via the invoice. I have owned 2 rural properties, one in Bathurst, that I bought in November 1976, but sold in 1992 & bought 250-acre old farm site with a lovely 1870 large, stone main house, on the Liverpool Plains in central western slopes (of rear side of the Great Dividing Range mtn's). It has its own dirt airstrip & hanger, and separate fuel storage shed. Another very very old rural zone of Australia with UK style stone buildings, except for the telltale Ghost gums & the darker and denser Murray River Gums overhanging the road, many of the other trees are those that are native to the UK particularly close to and around the buildings. I love the 800kilometre drive up there from the city, as long as there is petrol, I will keep driving them. So from December 2012 until now, Feb' 2023 , I have added 40,000miles to my "new" 1967 mk10/420G, like its predecessor xj6 it has not let me down & have total confidence driving it on the remote rural roads, as when you leave Quirindi ,NSW it is 150 kilometers to my house with just one small hamlet that you pass through at about the 100 kilometre distance .
That's incredible! I love that you're driving it, putting some serious miles in the last decade. Pre-covid I used to travel down under regularly for work and have some good friends out there. It's a wonderful and very varied car culture, but Jaguars do hold a special place for many. I'm sorry to hear about your friend but you're right about the fuel in this part of the world. It's something that won't go away. That first fuel stop, would have cost me $17.09 Aus per gallon. Even after shopping around it's about $13 per gallon here. It's mad, but we'll keep doing it!
We're probably going to do some podcasts with enthusiasts from around the world, would love to find a Jaguar related topic and talk with you!
Whoops I was signed into the wrong account when I replied! One day I'll make it back down under and have something better than a Toyota corolla to drive 😁
That was a terrific read! Thank you for sharing it. I don't own a car of any description but still ride my push bike. So reading about you cars and aeroplanes was a real pleasure for me.
@@roygardiner2229 Hi Roy, thanks for the acknowledgement. If you like these Jags, you should type in a RUclips search for these two people:- CILLIAN GNAGI (swiss), and GIG PETE (go onto his list of videos and select Cars & Coffee) - you can see his "greensand" mustard color 1973 standard length wheelbase car. Both these short videos bring back good memories of my series 1 XJ.
My nice Maroon one was one of the just 2,600 Series 1 longs made out of a grand total of 98,000 series 1's over 5+ years. The long wheelbase series 1's have a slightly taller back window giving way more headroom in the back seat, with an extra 4 inches in the rear door length, plus having the taller roof meant the rear seat could be set back a little further giving even more rear legroom. To me when viewed side on the longer series 1 cars had an extra graceful look to them with that extra length and roof height. With BMC-Leyland buying most of the shares when Lyons launched Jaguar as a public company after the death of his son & heir, BLMC would not allow Lyons to make the series 2 longs with the taller roof & unique taller glass saying to costly, so to me they always looked a bit silly with too low a roof on the longer car. With Lyons angry and resigning all interest in the company, then BLMC sought Pininfarina's help to stretch the life of the XJ because of the slow gestation of the new xj40, the first thing Pininfarina did was raise the roof height of the series 3 to that of the long series 1's as every series 3 was a long wheelbase car.
Wonderful drive!
Thank you very much 😁
Cant complain about the ride driving that😍
Indeed 😍 just passed the MOT with flying colours so next drive won't be long I'm sure!
If Roger Moore was a car he would have been a series 3 Daimler Double Six!
Suave, sophisticated, calm and unapologetically British!
Мой самый любимый автомобиль,он прекрасен!
Most splendid correct.
STUNNING CAR BUD 👍👍GREAT VIDEO AND A REALLY INTERESTING WATCH 👍👍LOVE THE JJAAGG 😀👍😀
Thank you!! 😁
Fantastic car. Best looking luxury saloon ever made in my opinion and that V12 is a masterpiece. I think maybe the only weak link is the 3 speed auto.
100% with you there. And I do think about a 5 speed conversion, more suitable diff ratio and a slightly better breathing exhaust. But would I be ruining it? Time will tell!
I bought a brand new Xj12 2 door coup when I was 17 with a expensive fitted 5 speed box . Only I had to have a Daimler Sovereign Double Six 2 door coup in gold instead of a Jaguar done in a nice red because the factory would not do it. I already had a lovely 4.2 in Burgandy with a BW model 12 auto if I remember right. Anyway the V12 was not as good as the straight 6 , ruined the ride it was too heavy hated it. I've had a lot of Jags my favourite was a S type 3.8. Most Jags had bad owners that could not afford to maintain them so a lot of them did not last. Biggest surprise was the 2.4 engine in the old mk2 , free reving ,silent and vibration less, definitely the smoothest car engine in the world. I was always accused of stalling it at lights but it was not. Could pick up a old Jag for 50 quid at Bawtry Auctions in the seventies , wish I'd kept loads of them I used to get laughed at when I said they were special.
Very special cars to this day. And I'd love a manual coupe. With a straight 6 or a V12. It's the magesty of the v12 that I love. It's my third v12. Two jags and one Aston.
Very jealous of your experience, I've never driven an old S type or a mk2. They've both shot up in price the last few years and good ones are starting to be out of reach!
I used to go to Bawtry auctions back in the day, 1988 on
@@Aston_Keeper I had a couple of mk2s, thought they'd be great but just big old buses tbh, had e types and there awesome.
Lovely car 😊
Thank you 😁
Your Driving Skills Very Good
Thanks, I try!
Lovely car,i had a 1987 daimler double six,i have had loads of jags,still have 2 but only the 1 v12 because i wanted to try one.i will admit that i do prefer the v8s and the xk unit myself.i was disappointed with the performance and refinement for fuel consumption compared to the creamy smooth v8s.i have a xj super v8 as my daily and that is awesome.it has huge performance for nearly twice the mpg of a v12.i am one of probably few people that prefers thr 40s to the series 3s.have had 4 40s,one of them a daimler.loved them all.they have the ride smoothness of a series 3 which unfortunatley the later ones have lost slightly.enjoyed your day out.i delivered all around there till recentley.stoke on trents not that far from there.
Can't argue that the engines got better, the 4.2 in our xk8 is like silk! But it's not a V12 and a foolish part of me adores the V12... 🙈
I’m the proud owner of a XJ6 series 3 and a Daimler double six series 3. I subscribe to see more adventures and tips
Fantastic collection, glad to help if we can!
Best car they ever made 😍
In that era, I'd certainly say so!
In any and every era.
Dad had a series 3,xj6….then an xj40 sovereign, then an x300, I think the series 3 had the most comfortable ride
Agreed, incredible when the basics of the suspension had been designed in the late 50s!
I had a goldish colour 1986 V12 Daimler Vanden Plas which I loved which swapped with my 1982 Rolls Royce because you cannot keep a Rolls on an estate.
Always wanted a Shadow... Or you know, a Wraith 😂
@@Aston_Keeper It was a creamy white colour 1982 RR Silver Spirit 2 which was very good on MPG for that engine.
Lovely stuff but it's a shame fuelling an old beast like this has gotten so expensive
Yeah, I've decided life's too short and sucked it up. Aiming to do 2k a year in it at least!
Always loved the xj, spent some time in the v12s when I was a kid, then my father in law had a 4.2. Sadly never owned one
I'm betting on good ones being a smart investment 🤞 they aren't expensive... Yet!
Hi wish you take a roadtrip to the western parts of norway. Best curvy winding steep roads in europa. Living and driving campers and also 18 weelers in my work all year around i can first hand recomand this part of the world
Maybe one day, I've got a bit of a fantasy of driving all the way to North Cape and doing it in our Defender... But that's a lot of miles!
If I remember rightly (I havent had a Series XJ for a couple of decades), theres a big silver relay on one of the inner wings that does the headlights, I`d imagine that's getting a bit sticky.
Yes that's the one! Planning on picking one up on ebay 👍
A: 'Loads...and loads.'
🤣 So true
After 5 years with 7 series BMW's and so many electric bugs that were in the end too much , I purchased a 1992 series 3 Daimler double six from Japan . Ultra low mileage (20k) and it is a thousand times the car that BMW ever was ... apart from a rumbling wheal bearing being fixed as we speak, the car has been utterly magnificent and returning 21 mpg regulaly on the motorway . With many series 3's being repatriated from Japan , I am already looking for a replacement series 3 when my own turns 50 k miles
Looked like when you were talking about the engine that you may need need mounts. I don't know if it is supposed to move like that. Also the XK engine was in production longer than the v12
Funnily enough I've just done the front subframe bushes but I believe the engine movement is pretty average all of mine have moved like that. I've not yet had an XK engine. Would love an E.....
i think if you removed the lead from your right shoe you would get more than 8.6 miles to the gallon. my double six loves being driven at 90mph where it runs at 17mpg. lovely video showing what these old girls can do. christ. sort the fuel hoses out. many V12's have gone up in smoke due to this. simple fix.
Absolutely!! The hoses are now done 😁 video to follow! It was fine before we left so goes to show how you've got to keep an eye on these things.
@@Aston_Keeper brilliant. i have four V12's Three injected and i need to get em all sorted. you don't want fuel spraying out around the engine with twelve spark plugs sparking away.
@@kennethtalbott2233 it's not a terrible job, I do prefer the later engines with the fuel rail without those awful hoses!
@@Aston_Keeper yep. mine all have the rails. will need to get two of the cars done this year. need em back on the road.
Always love seeing videos of the Daimler. For a number of years I had and enjoyed a 1983 Double Six Series 3 - even went to Le Mans in it. (Topped out at an easy 140+ on an English motorway on the way there!) ;-)
While I could just about wear the fuel consumption (late 80's), what killed the car for me was that every day something else broke. Often not enough to stop driving, but mega annoying.
Still, it's my favourite ever car, no question.
One minor thing - it's interesting you have a Vanden Plas version. I wasn't aware the S3 had that, so it must be as rare as hens teeth.
You're right and this was the last year of the VDP too, so as far as UK spec cars, very rare as you say. I'm pretty sure everything except one direction adjuster on one mirror, everything else works. Which makes it even rarer 😂
My own double six (a Japanese low mileage import) has been impeccable with just a rumbling wheel bearing in 2 years despite everyday driving . Will be having another when my own car turns 50k miles .
Had a f reg one a few years ago, great but I got fed up with the fuel.
Yeah I get it. Particularly as I bought this a matter of weeks before the was in Ukraine and fuel went nuts. I think this is the last time I'll be able to afford to run a V12, so I better had enjoy it!
@@Aston_Keeper I used to run it for a bit then use a ldv ex post office van, diesel to save up for fuel.
wonderful car,wonderful route, what could go wrong ? being hit by a Porsche driving too fast!!
Reminds me the speedo in our 944 S2 doesn't work 😂 must get that sorted.
A lot 😂
Absolute gas guzzler lovely car though
True, but what a spectacularly comfortable way to burn money 🤣
1:39 i am only 2 minutes in on a 450 mile trip why are you in the outside lane braking ? not the best advert on a driving video
Perhaps not the best clip taken in isolation, but I decided passing the DHL truck 10 seconds before made for a worse view!
@@Aston_Keeper 10 seconds at 70 mph ? plenty of time to move back into lane one which looks empty tut tut
Poor sound quality!
Yeah some of the footage was before I'd bought a couple of mics! And the end was recorded in the garage during heavy rain, doh!
Considering it is an English ride… everything could go wrong.