how to harmonise a melody like a romantic composer
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- knowing how to add chromaticism in harmony is a tool every composer should be aware of. in this video we'll be exploring a few different methods of doing so by harmonising a simple melodic extract.
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melody fragment taken from 300 texts et réalisations - RAYNAUD Jean-Claude.
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Amazing how a few chromaticisms move the melody somewhere else !
often, just by changing the harmony we open new paths to the melody we hadn't seen before!
Agree, adding chromatic notes made the biggest difference for me. Especially the first one, that got removed in the final version.
That's how the likes of Scriabin (in his early and middle periods) and Feinberg composed.
It almost feels like you started in the early romantic period like with Beethoven and moved into a later romantic style with this line, ultimately sounding more Schumann-esque
Many would say Beethoven is a classicist.
@@joebloggs396nobody would say that
@@vincent-ataramanikohe is often thought of as the bridge between classicism and romanticism as he took inspiration from haydn and mozart but also later from 1812 started moving to a more expressive form. Saying he is a thought of as a classicist is therefore not wrong per se, but just reductive
@@yriiiiiii haydn and mozart were romantic in many of their last works. The early Beethoven sonatas were already romantic as well, Beethoven kept many classical aspects but was a romantic first and foremost
@@vincent-ataramaniko wrong
This video is incredible! The style is straightforward and clear. More please???
Fantastic video
This is crazy useful! I definitely struggle with harmonising from a given melody, especially in a romantic style, but this is super clear. Thanks for all the help :)
Am I the only one who loves the first one? Tbf, I love the classical styles of Mozart, Haydn, and Paganini to death, and that cadential 6/4 felt very homey and nostalgic.
It could be used as a very good storytelling device. The firsy one being at the beginning of the story, set in the home of the protagonist. The final one is returning to home after a long journey, or even after people living in the home have passed away, or the home having been destroyed/lost...
The first one excels in its simple elegance. Oftentimes in music, less is best. The final product is also melodic and evokes a different feeling.
Both are completely valid and invoke different feelings so it all depends on context
The first is also great, just perhaps not romantic specifically.
A lot of this went over my head, but I really enjoyed just listening to the changes and hearing you explain them. Thanks for broadening my musical palate!
I actually enjoyed the example at 1:14 the most, with the suspension and appoggiatura in the Violin II. That first suspension is beautiful.
is it a real song?
Beginner pianist here! This was so impressive to watch as you build up a simple romantic melody to something even more beautiful and interesting! It truly makes me fall in love with classical (romantic-era) music all over again :)
nice yui pfp
@@user-wl4ct8pl3s thanks! she’s the cutest ^^
@@uufruity have you tried learning any of HTT's songs on piano?
@@user-wl4ct8pl3s No, I watched K-on prior to my journey with piano and I don’t remember recalling any songs that stuck out to me while I watched it!
@@uufruity i feel like honey sweet tea time (the song that mugi wrote) would be a cool one to learn on the piano
You're a great source for quick, easy-to-digest music content. As a fellow composer, stuff like this is incredibly useful when it comes to opening into deeper study and utilising techniques like this in my own writing! Like man, I could've adapted some of these ideas when I was working on my symphony!
the fact that you've written a symphony is by large a great feat already in and of itself!
I loved it! It feels like you switched on/off the Brahms plugin
Great video. After you added the interrupted cadence I was screaming at the screen "that doesn't sound resolved anymore!! AGH" which I suppose is the point :) . Interesting food for thought in my own improvisation.
lol ikr same
This kind of video makes you realize how similar Romantic composers are to Jazz.
love this video. had the feeling of a painting tutorial. please do more videos in this style, taking concepts from classical music and explaining them clearly by applying them in a composition
underrated channel, great advice
very kind of you thank you!
The additions to the original harmonisation move the music into more adventurous areas and that's fine, but the true talent of any composer in any age Western European music is to understand the value of simplicity and to sense when that's the appropriate choice. Some of the profoundest and most memorable passages of music, from Palestrina through Bach, Haydn, Brahms, Sibelius, Stravinsky, Copeland to Britten, Shostakovich, Ligeti, Glass and others "hit the mark" through simplicity, directness and transparency.
complexity concealed within simplicity is the hardest thing to achieve
short and sweet, well done
3:02 we should show this to anyone who says they can’t tell the difference between schubert and schumann
is Schumann supposed to be the second one?
@@filipsakowski4492 yes! At least to my ear
I've started learning to compose properly recently and this is like the perfect thing for me to find.
Thank you
That was a really interesting watch! As a fellow Singaporean, I could also recognise your Singaporean accent immediately 😂
guilty as charged 😅
I wish the video played the raw melody. I cannot read sheet music without a reference tone, but I can think up chords and tones up very well in my head
Love it. Examples of music theory in motion like this light that fire in me while I build up my piano technique before continuing with my composition work. Subbed.
More about harmonizing please!
Great video, concepts are very nicely explained👏👏
Sometimes, simple things sound more beautiful.
Last measure tension / resolution: Violin II - D (first beat) to C (second / third beats) ...
exactly! the same could be done in vlc or a suspension with the B natural
Thank you for providing such well-laid out and clear examples of harmonic possibilities. I liked the point made about not necessarily using everything!
Thank you for playing the examples several times it really helped me understand what you were doing. ❤
This has been inspirational to my own compositional art. Thank you!
THAT ITALIAN 6TH god it sounds so beautiful
Amazing teacher. Appreciate more videos of this kind. Thank you again
Thank you for this information, YOU GAINED NEW SUB! Keep up the good work man!
lol thank u so much for telling us to try it, I tried it and honestly I feel like I nailed it might have to expand, bless you for this
Okay, you got my attention, I’m all ears and I left you you a sub, it’s nothing much but I hope this will make your day better.
EXCELLENT VIDEO !!!
PLEASE MORE HARMOMIZING MELODY VIDEOS 👏🙌
Short, concise, practical and well explained. Perfect.
Hello fellow composer! Nice video!
Thank you. Such a great, short video. Subscribed!!
This video was very understanding and great. i learned a lot from this!
Eye-opening (or should that be ear-opening) to hear the two versions side by side at the end. Great work!
the most MOST important thing in music, in my opinion, is narrative and context. There is space for every sound and ambient in music, given the narrative and context. Rationalization of compositional tools and processes, also subjective descriptors, gain more meaning and becomes more useful when associated with narrative and context.
i completely agree
A very helpful video. Keep up the great work !!
very very helpful thank you!
Hmmm! sounds like Brahms and Reger too! Delicious.
Very well done explanation/example!
Good stuff, harmony is so wonderful :)
Fantastic. Very well done, very clear and to the point. God job!!!
This is awesome, thank you very much for doing this.
Wanting to learn this style of orchestration. Any recommendations on literature I can read?
After all NCT and variations added, the progression remains functional. It does not become less functional. For some reason, everybody uses the term "functional" as some kind of curse word. Without "functional" this progression would fall apart. It takes decades to internalize tonal-harmonic function.
awesome, thanks for this
So much helpful information in such a short video!
Thanks a lot!
Armonice eso pero en do menor. Ya que Mi bemol mayor sentía que no le queda. Pero es mi opinión. Kas posibilidades de componer esa base son muchas.
Nice, good things to learn
Moral of the story: variety is gud and a lot bigger than it actually is
This is a great exercise for me: please more of these ❤
Arhhh, harmony and counterpoint. My arch nemesis.
Sounds like some Joe Hisaishi Ghibli magic! Love it!
I wouldn't have used the C minor chord on beat 3 in the 2nd bar, it kind of spoils the surprise of the deceptive cadence at the end
what would you have used instead?
Very well explained. More please!
Very inspiring and professional. Please upload more of the same concept👌
That was awesome! Please make more videos like that. :)
Thank you Sir.
It is wonderful to continue learning.
Very good chromaticism!
Very informative! Thank you!
I do understand the roman numbers, what i don't understand are the numbers, what do they mean? Also what it means to have a "⁰" and what it is the / meaning? Can anyone please help me?
Hello, that can mean “diminished chord”
Great content… good luck
Really nice video. You really showed a nuanced understanding of harmony here
Good video 👍 finally someone who knows what's talking about
Great lesson! Please, keep going😊
I don't understand anything of this but the first thing already sounded very nice!
Very interesting, thanks! I think this sounds more like the first iteration of a musical idea early in a music piece, then the second, enriched one, later in the piece. Do you know how to acquire the "tools" you mentioned at the end of the video? I try to remember the ones I see in each piece I learn but is there some kind of list? Do you have one?
Studying harmony and counterpoint.
@@furman.composer how? Any recommendations?
@@monsieurbrochant7528 French manuals (Gedalge, d'Indy, Dubois, Fauré...), Cherubini or Fux's books. There's a new trend going on in Partimento - also interesting to check. But commonly found books are indeed good: Kosta's Tonal Harmony, Aldwell's Harmony and Voice leading, Gauldin and Schoenberg's books. Even Walter Piston's are good. And, of course, plenty of solfège exercises (utilizing the same harmony and counterpoint exercises to sight sing each voice). May seem overwhelming at first glance, but diligently studied, this material can be perfected over 2 years without rushing or get tired, just taking few sessions per week. The rest is active listening and practice (with and without instrument).
The second violin part is tasteful!!!
Plz keep doing vids like this one
I think one of the best impact was adding non harmony notes to bring more movement and spice to the inner lines ; will you be making more videos about that aspect ?
Great video, more from the romantic era please!
beautiful!
That’s great!! Which romantic harmony book do you suggest for me to study?
The italian chord broke my hearth.
That was amazing! Thank you. The only thing I missed was the actual sound of the strings. Anyway, great vid
The only way of making romantic music is just to devote yourself to actual romance. It's true.
Holy crap, this was enlightening. Please do more of these!
An incredible brief video
are there books one can go through to learn about chords and harmony? this kind of analysis. what are some of them?
I don't really like the interrupted cadence at the end, the rest's fine.
Could you explain how you've named the chord at 3:21 at the upbeat? I'm not really sure how this chord is vii43dim/ii in Eb. Thank you!
the ii chord is F minor in the key of Eb, the diminished chord vii7 of F is E G Bb Db, and since Bb is in the bass, second inversion thus 43
That was so cool!
Very nice!
Out of curiosity, you mentioned that the Italian 6th is a predominant chord, but when I listen to it, it sounds like a dominant chord to me. I get that it's technically an enharmonic with a dominant 7th chord (with the 5th omitted), but the Cb It6 chord to my ear in this context makes me hear a B7 leading to a Bb... or a II-V to the V with a tritone sub on the II chord. I think part of why I'm feeling that chord as a dominant is because the F-natural (or E#) in the melody would be the lydian of the B7 dominant chord, so it injects a tense brightness at that moment..
Also, I'm curious how you address the F-natural in the Cb It6 chord.. or do you just see it as a non-harmonic passing tone?
Fascinating how aspects of jazz theory and classical theory sorta intermingle with each other, TBH.
You're right. Tchaikovsky mentions in his treatise of harmony that the augmented 6 chords should really be treated as substitutions of the dominant chord. But it really is used most of the time like a sort of dominant of the dominant like in this example which is why in Eb we could say that it's the predominant.
I prefer analysing the F as a passing note but it also fits nicely in a French 6 chord too.
Brilliant!!!
I felt like the chromatic movements in the parts just made the piece feel flat in it's own way - the focus on the core melody was lost in my opinion.
but goddamn I love suspensions and tritone substitutions to death🥰😍
great video
The point of an interrupted cadence is that is does NOT resolve anything. Why add an interrupted cadence to the final line of the melody, as shown in the video?
It's an extract of a bigger line
In the recording it sounds like you play a V42/ii (C/Bb) instead of the diminished chord written in the music and fig. bass, but I think it sounds better that way anyways.
Yoo could you do some kapustin, maybe his 4th concerto
Dope!
Is this an original melody?
That first option with the interrupted cadence sounds like Randy Newman
Very nice! I interpreted the melody in C minor with some interesting results
I guess so but ... I like the first version ... more?
The italian chord is good to know