Let me know your thoughts on todays news and rumours Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 0:30 Waivers News 5:00 Ducks Sign Vatrano 7:00 Injuries & Roster Moves 9:00 Big Update on CBJ Prospect 11:45 Czechia Wins Bronze at WJC 14:00 Ducks QC Teams 15:30 Habs Trade Rumours 20:00 Sens Trade Rumours
What MTL should do imo: - Trade Savard before or at the deadline (high likelihood to get a 1st) - Try to keep and extend Evans - Keep Armia and see if he would take a discount in FA - Keep Dvorak for the remainder of the season (unless a very good return), but let him walk and allow Owen Beck to make his way up, especially if Evans stays/extends and becomes the #3 centre
@@stephaneferron5317 He and Anderson are great since they've embraced they're new roles. Problem is they are paid 4.5 and 5.5. They would have to accept massive pay cuts. If Anderson accepts this, he's the one I would love keeping. He's big, he's very fast, he fights when he needs to stand up for a teammate, he's great at battling for the puck. Plus he pots about 15 per season while playing bottom 6 minutes. He can even help you out on the top 6 when you lose a player during a game. He's like the perfect bottom 6 winger. However, he would have to accept going from 5.5 to 2.5 on a short term deal. I doubt he wants to do that.
@stephaneferron5317 You think ANY team would pay 3,4 for a 4th liner's defensive game? Respectfully, I personally think you're out to lunch on that. I don't think ANY team will pay that on a new contract. Not to mention, you are seriously over evaluating his game play.
@@bobmatley I agree. I think the same for Savard, although it would help if he picked his game up for the next couple of months. I really don't want them to trade Evans, but I guess it would depend on the return, which would have to include a first. It would be cool if they could trade him and the re-sign him in the summer.
Nope... Armia, Dvorak, Evans, Pezzetta and Savard are UFAs at the end of this season. About 14 million off the cap. End of next season is Laine, Matheson and Carey Price. Total of 24 million off the cap. Finally, end of 26-27 is Gally, Anderson, Carrier and Montembeault for about 19 million off the cap. Very few of these guys will be resigned. Montembault and Laine perhaps? And even that is far from certain. Of course Slaf and Ghule's big contracts kick in next season. You also have to figure in Hutson, Demidov and others will be due for a major raise in 2-3 years. Nonetheless, we'll have the money to sign at least two quality UFAs, if we can find some that will sign here. If we can sign the right UFAs, this team will be stacked!
@shawnperry3815 i hope so, I do like him, but I suspect it will be at a lower aav, cause they can get someone younger and cheaper to fill that role. Let see what Hughes and Armia each want to do. Armia could get a better offer somewhere else.
FoUrsberg needs to go. Sens fans been after him all year and he needs to go. He either gets shutouts or lets in 4+ goals a game…more so the ladder half. Also, they need to get JBD back in and playing with Kleven. Hamonic can stay but as a 7th defensemen not a top 6.
Ottawa would be the worst place for Kaliyev because it would only be on a temporary basis ....whereas with San Jose, Chicago or even Montreal , he could have a more important role and demonstrate what he is capable of doing. he is a sniper, on the power play, he lands cannon balls, he has a great potential, I saw him play about fifty games in two years. it's a big mistake for Los Angeles....an other mistake i should say...
kaliyev is daniel sprong. there's a reason sprong doesn't stay in one place for too long, and unless kaliyev develops the rest of his game, the same will happen to him. he should take what he can get and prove himself when he gets the chance. he could use the temporary basis to try and show he's worth a more permanent investment.
If Evans moves, they can resign him as a free agent. If they offer him 4 years at 15M they sign him for sure, even if another teams offers more, because Evans wants to stay in Montreal.
Lol the penguins won't get McKenna. They'd have to rebuild and start tanking. The pens are bad.....but they aren't worse than Chicago, San Jose, CBJ, flyers etc and McKenna is projected to be the #1 overall pick
For example.....if the Pens finished the place where they're at right now.....except in McKenna's draft eligible year. The penguins would have a 1.5% chance of getting the first overall pick.
Once you get out of the bottom 3 teams in the NHL.... The chance to win the first overall pick falls off a cliff. Like the 5th worst team has a 5% chance.
Love Forsy, seems like a solid dude but scheduled losses every time he’s in there, he’s cooked. Ullmark has been injured twice this year. He can’t carry the load. This would punch their ticket in playoffs but if they don’t move Forsy they probably miss.
You clearly aren't tuned into the Habs. Armia is one of the best checkers and penalty killers in the league, he will be wanted by many teams. Evans has quietly become a premier checking center, Habs should hang onto him. If the team drops out of the playoff race (they have a very tough schedule in January) then Dvorak, Savard and Armia are all gone.
I watch the Habs a lot. There have been enough reports / confirmation that the Habs tried really hard to move Armia and Dvorak in the summer and there were no takers. Armia even cleared waivers last year. You may see value in him as Habs fan but I don’t think other teams see it. There is a chance he gets moved but if so the return will be small. Savard will generate a good return.
if armia made half his salary, he'd have plenty of takers. but we only have one retention slot and are most likely to use it on savard. if we're offered a 3rd for armia, we should take it. if evans wants more than armia is currently making, i'd trade him. we can find a 3C for less. we might be stuck with dvorak. i'm not willing to give up assets to move an expiring contract.
Zero % chance they get another tender because Ullmark is out for a week or two with Sogaard as their backup next year. The goalie carousel in Ottawa has to stop. That includes young drafted backups until they take the reins.
That’s the issue. No one is taking that reign. It’s up for grabs and Merilainen is making a case for himself but still needs a bit of time. Sogaard has a 1 year left of his 2 year deal and the second year is a 1 way contract. He is definitely not ready so FoUrsberg and Sogaard might be on their way out. Forsberg is complete dead weight and is what he’s been. Sogaard definitely could become a decent goaltender but he’s not showing it. So, you want to stop the carousel with a dead weight and a minimal prospect to backup a goalie that seems to get injured quite frequently and easily?
I thought Forsy had to go to in the off-season. Sadly the dude is cooked but Sogard isn’t close to ready. I think this move gets us in playoffs. We need a goalie!
sogaard has stalled. he's the sens version of cayden primeau. merilainen looks better, but he's not ready either. some buy low options could be kaapo kahkonen of the jets, or maybe hunter shepard from the caps. the latter has won the last 2 AHL championships and is almost certainly ready for an NHL shot, but is behind thompson/lindgren. if vanecek in SJ was healthy he'd be another option, one you could trade forsberg for. or maybe kolosov from the flyers, though i'm not sure it's an upgrade.
Imagine if the blue jackets would of accepted that trade last year Chicago proposed. Blue jackets first round pick from last year for Chicagos unprotected 1st round pick this year.
Huh? i'm with you on blowing such a high pick on a kid that already has a bad back, but injuries aside, Lindstrom was a vastly superior prospect. Dach had pretty unimpressive numbers in junior, for a top ten pick, let alone a 3rd OA. Lindstrom is a power forward. Loves hitting and scored a lot of goals... Kirby is big but is SO soft... I think it was the allure of a 6'4" centerman that made Chicago pick him so high. If he was 5'11", we're talking late 1st rounder... At the time, it was considered by most as one hell of a reach by the Hawks...
I'd hate to see Evans go as he has really upped his game. But there isn't much sense in holding on to him as he'll be in his 30s by the time Mtl is ready to make some noise. Armia/Dvorak, get whatever you can.
Are you saying if the shoe was on the other foot and Canada was playing Finland for gold in the US, that USA fans would be cheering for Canada lol??? I doubt it very much!!! It’s a rivalry let’s skip the bullshit! Nothing embarrassing about it! The best team won but fans can cheer for who ever they wish! Stop whining lol 😂
@@mikeking-t2u American fans don't have the same animus toward Canada as Canadians do toward us. Even way back in 1988 at the Calgary Olympics, Canadians were openly rooting for the Soviets over America - loudly.
Let me know your thoughts on todays news and rumours
Time Stamps:
0:00 Intro
0:30 Waivers News
5:00 Ducks Sign Vatrano
7:00 Injuries & Roster Moves
9:00 Big Update on CBJ Prospect
11:45 Czechia Wins Bronze at WJC
14:00 Ducks QC Teams
15:30 Habs Trade Rumours
20:00 Sens Trade Rumours
What MTL should do imo:
- Trade Savard before or at the deadline (high likelihood to get a 1st)
- Try to keep and extend Evans
- Keep Armia and see if he would take a discount in FA
- Keep Dvorak for the remainder of the season (unless a very good return), but let him walk and allow Owen Beck to make his way up, especially if Evans stays/extends and becomes the #3 centre
I don't get the hype about Savard getting traded for a high draft pick. He lacks mobility, is a bottom pair D who blocks shots. A 3rd rounder at best.
Armia is one if not the best pk winger in the league, he’s getting extended
will he take a pay cut?
@@stephaneferron5317 He and Anderson are great since they've embraced they're new roles. Problem is they are paid 4.5 and 5.5.
They would have to accept massive pay cuts. If Anderson accepts this, he's the one I would love keeping. He's big, he's very fast, he fights when he needs to stand up for a teammate, he's great at battling for the puck. Plus he pots about 15 per season while playing bottom 6 minutes. He can even help you out on the top 6 when you lose a player during a game. He's like the perfect bottom 6 winger. However, he would have to accept going from 5.5 to 2.5 on a short term deal. I doubt he wants to do that.
@@rich.jerkov Armia only makes 3.4 , any team would pay a guy that much for his defensive play alone . Armia is far from overpaid
@@doaftheloaf a pay cut with the cap going up to almost 90 millions next year? Armia is underpaid at 3.4
@stephaneferron5317 You think ANY team would pay 3,4 for a 4th liner's defensive game? Respectfully, I personally think you're out to lunch on that. I don't think ANY team will pay that on a new contract. Not to mention, you are seriously over evaluating his game play.
Aren't both Armia and Dvorak signed through the end of next season? I think Armia might have more value than you think.
No
no both UFA but Armia is worth a 2nd he is playing good lately and he is an important penalty killer so there will be a demand for him.
@@bobmatley I agree. I think the same for Savard, although it would help if he picked his game up for the next couple of months. I really don't want them to trade Evans, but I guess it would depend on the return, which would have to include a first. It would be cool if they could trade him and the re-sign him in the summer.
Armia definitely has an upside, but I hope they can find a good spot for him in exchange for futures.
Nope... Armia, Dvorak, Evans, Pezzetta and Savard are UFAs at the end of this season. About 14 million off the cap.
End of next season is Laine, Matheson and Carey Price. Total of 24 million off the cap.
Finally, end of 26-27 is Gally, Anderson, Carrier and Montembeault for about 19 million off the cap.
Very few of these guys will be resigned. Montembault and Laine perhaps? And even that is far from certain. Of course Slaf and Ghule's big contracts kick in next season. You also have to figure in Hutson, Demidov and others will be due for a major raise in 2-3 years. Nonetheless, we'll have the money to sign at least two quality UFAs, if we can find some that will sign here. If we can sign the right UFAs, this team will be stacked!
Next Habs Sens game is gonna be great if it's this close. 1 point behind Sens 😅
I'd move Matheson and Dvo Keep Evans and Armia Savard
If Armia isn't out, Newhook will have to replace Dvorak to make space for Demidov wich isn't ideal...
Armia little value ? I respectfully disagree. Armia has had a really solid season on one of the best 4th lines in the nhl & is an excellent on the pk
Armia will be back, you are mistaken.
@shawnperry3815 i hope so, I do like him, but I suspect it will be at a lower aav, cause they can get someone younger and cheaper to fill that role. Let see what Hughes and Armia each want to do. Armia could get a better offer somewhere else.
FoUrsberg needs to go. Sens fans been after him all year and he needs to go. He either gets shutouts or lets in 4+ goals a game…more so the ladder half. Also, they need to get JBD back in and playing with Kleven. Hamonic can stay but as a 7th defensemen not a top 6.
Ottawa would be the worst place for Kaliyev because it would only be on a temporary basis ....whereas with San Jose, Chicago or even Montreal , he could have a more important role and demonstrate what he is capable of doing. he is a sniper, on the power play, he lands cannon balls, he has a great potential, I saw him play about fifty games in two years. it's a big mistake for Los Angeles....an other mistake i should say...
kaliyev is daniel sprong. there's a reason sprong doesn't stay in one place for too long, and unless kaliyev develops the rest of his game, the same will happen to him. he should take what he can get and prove himself when he gets the chance. he could use the temporary basis to try and show he's worth a more permanent investment.
Czechia 🥉
If Evans moves, they can resign him as a free agent. If they offer him 4 years at 15M they sign him for sure, even if another teams offers more, because Evans wants to stay in Montreal.
Demidov coming too 😋
To bad Cayden Lindstrom is hurt for CBJ. I think he plays on future Penguin Gavin McKenna's junior team making it double bad.
Lol the penguins won't get McKenna. They'd have to rebuild and start tanking. The pens are bad.....but they aren't worse than Chicago, San Jose, CBJ, flyers etc and McKenna is projected to be the #1 overall pick
For example.....if the Pens finished the place where they're at right now.....except in McKenna's draft eligible year. The penguins would have a 1.5% chance of getting the first overall pick.
@@Scott-u9p7u Penguins are 1 injury away from dead last. 87 and 71 have been healthy.
Once you get out of the bottom 3 teams in the NHL.... The chance to win the first overall pick falls off a cliff. Like the 5th worst team has a 5% chance.
@@1pbdecoded1pb the pens aren't gonna be worse than San Jose or Chicago. Or even CBJ.
Hamonic got hit behind the net pretty sure that’s where he got hurt.
Love Forsy, seems like a solid dude but scheduled losses every time he’s in there, he’s cooked. Ullmark has been injured twice this year. He can’t carry the load. This would punch their ticket in playoffs but if they don’t move Forsy they probably miss.
You clearly aren't tuned into the Habs. Armia is one of the best checkers and penalty killers in the league, he will be wanted by many teams. Evans has quietly become a premier checking center, Habs should hang onto him. If the team drops out of the playoff race (they have a very tough schedule in January) then Dvorak, Savard and Armia are all gone.
I watch the Habs a lot. There have been enough reports / confirmation that the Habs tried really hard to move Armia and Dvorak in the summer and there were no takers. Armia even cleared waivers last year. You may see value in him as Habs fan but I don’t think other teams see it. There is a chance he gets moved but if so the return will be small. Savard will generate a good return.
if armia made half his salary, he'd have plenty of takers. but we only have one retention slot and are most likely to use it on savard. if we're offered a 3rd for armia, we should take it.
if evans wants more than armia is currently making, i'd trade him. we can find a 3C for less.
we might be stuck with dvorak. i'm not willing to give up assets to move an expiring contract.
Zero % chance they get another tender because Ullmark is out for a week or two with Sogaard as their backup next year. The goalie carousel in Ottawa has to stop. That includes young drafted backups until they take the reins.
That’s the issue. No one is taking that reign. It’s up for grabs and Merilainen is making a case for himself but still needs a bit of time. Sogaard has a 1 year left of his 2 year deal and the second year is a 1 way contract. He is definitely not ready so FoUrsberg and Sogaard might be on their way out. Forsberg is complete dead weight and is what he’s been. Sogaard definitely could become a decent goaltender but he’s not showing it. So, you want to stop the carousel with a dead weight and a minimal prospect to backup a goalie that seems to get injured quite frequently and easily?
I thought Forsy had to go to in the off-season. Sadly the dude is cooked but Sogard isn’t close to ready. I think this move gets us in playoffs. We need a goalie!
sogaard has stalled. he's the sens version of cayden primeau. merilainen looks better, but he's not ready either.
some buy low options could be kaapo kahkonen of the jets, or maybe hunter shepard from the caps. the latter has won the last 2 AHL championships and is almost certainly ready for an NHL shot, but is behind thompson/lindgren. if vanecek in SJ was healthy he'd be another option, one you could trade forsberg for. or maybe kolosov from the flyers, though i'm not sure it's an upgrade.
McCabe had Hathaway beat on the ground and then let him up
… big mistake
btw, nick desimone plays defense.
I hope they name Utah the Scormons. Come they're all Mormom Latter-Day Saints in that state!
Cayden is a less talented Dach , very suspect pick with that back injury.
Imagine if the blue jackets would of accepted that trade last year Chicago proposed. Blue jackets first round pick from last year for Chicagos unprotected 1st round pick this year.
Huh? i'm with you on blowing such a high pick on a kid that already has a bad back, but injuries aside, Lindstrom was a vastly superior prospect. Dach had pretty unimpressive numbers in junior, for a top ten pick, let alone a 3rd OA. Lindstrom is a power forward. Loves hitting and scored a lot of goals... Kirby is big but is SO soft... I think it was the allure of a 6'4" centerman that made Chicago pick him so high. If he was 5'11", we're talking late 1st rounder... At the time, it was considered by most as one hell of a reach by the Hawks...
@@rich.jerkov Dach was a stud in the W
@@rich.jerkov Feel bad for Lindstrom, but at least he's now in the recovery process. The pick might yet pay off for CBJ.
All speculation, no substance
I'd hate to see Evans go as he has really upped his game. But there isn't much sense in holding on to him as he'll be in his 30s by the time Mtl is ready to make some noise. Armia/Dvorak, get whatever you can.
USA! USA! 🇺🇸
USA WINS GOLD...Canadian fans embarrassed themselves once again with their blatant anti American cheering for Finland 😒🙄
Are you saying if the shoe was on the other foot and Canada was playing Finland for gold in the US, that USA fans would be cheering for Canada lol??? I doubt it very much!!! It’s a rivalry let’s skip the bullshit! Nothing embarrassing about it! The best team won but fans can cheer for who ever they wish! Stop whining lol 😂
@@mikeking-t2u American fans don't have the same animus toward Canada as Canadians do toward us. Even way back in 1988 at the Calgary Olympics, Canadians were openly rooting for the Soviets over America - loudly.
@@mikeking-t2u Canadians are more hateful people, especially when it comes to hockey.
is getting sick with this, please stop