Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix
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zhou underrated, he was running in p11 and he was 12 seconds ahead of kmag but the 30 sec pitstop destroyed his race
Nah he's rated just fine
And Bottas, whom I've always liked, overrated. Without Zhou's long stop near the end he'd have been ahead of Valtteri. Bottas is just phoning it in these days.
Yes, they mentioned Danny Ric's slow pitstop but totally overlooked Zhou's which was much more relevant to his final result.
@@Trebuchet48 he was cucked in quali
Zhou was only up so high cause he didn't pit under the SC in fairness. No reason to believe he was any quicker than VB - he very rarely is.
3/10 is a bit cruel for Zhou, he was just a few seconds behind Hulk
He binned his own car in practice...
@@tyscott7769And yet you all gave KMag 9's and 10's for breaking multiple rules and keeping slower cars behind. It's as if you all don't know anything about the sport.
@@ccramit This, DTS fans liked KMag, he openly broke a rule because he couldn't legally overtake a RB in a much faster car, after illegally taking the place then "accepted" the 10s. If a car is found to have taken a position off track and doesn't give it back it should be black and orange flags to go to the pit and be DQed. Yuki fucked the one overtake opportunity, but it was some of the worst driving i've seen.
@@ccramit don't hate the player, hate the game
(I'm not giving KMag a 9 for this race though, he could've been the one to score that point without the shithousery)
@@TheBalfrogDisqualification for overtaking off track is such a clueless idea, you are actually out of your mind.
giving Zhou a lower grade than Bottas is wild. Even the F1 TV commentators said how Zhou had a decent drive which was ruined by the slow pitstop, and how Bottas was just anonymous and was not involved in the race at all. Yes, Zhou crashed in PF and ruined his chance in quali, but it's not like the Sauber has the potential to be P11 or something on the grid judging by Bottas' performance in quali. So realistically, Zhou would only start the race a few positions up had he done a proper quali, which would have not changed anything in the end for the race.
Bottas was blocked on his final run in qualifying, but your right Zhou deserved a higher grade
@@LFC1PGBottas and Zhou should've rated equally. 6.6/10.
Alex didn't "destroy Logan with a damaged car" like Matt said, Logan got hit with team orders to stay behind Alex and do not attack. Logan asked if he could attack/get let by Alex and was told no and to follow him.
Sargeant should've able to pass at least 4 cars from that point.
On board with a few other comments here; Zhou got let down by the worst pit crew on the grid but was driving a very respectable race; he's doing as much as can reasonably be expected of him in a god awful car. At least a 5/10
Zhou is underrated. Basically has matched Bottas for pace since mid 2022 but has been incredibly unlucky so far.
Well bottas did a two stop but still zhou should have had atleast 5/10
Sauber is just not looked at enough, they are 10x worse then Rb and Ferrari combined, the amount of times Zhou has been in a good position and they pit 15 laps early or later and fuck the stop up is wild. Zhou to mean is on the same caliber Ocon
@@LucasMueller18also when there was giovinazzi most of the time that he arrived behind his team mate were because of a bad pitstop or bad strategy. ( I know it because some Italian profile focussed on how his can a team screw up his races)
i don't know what happens to bottass car during the game. i mean in most cases, he is much faster and this time it seems he is not racing.
This season will basically be two different championships. The top 5 teams and the bottom 5 teams. Getting 1st or 10th could give you a 10/10.
3 different championships: RB, the other 4 and then the poor guys.
Someone on tiktok is doing a championship without the rbr drivers and its actually quite interesting
It's just copied from reddit
Beating Stroll is an automatic 8/10 unless he crashes.
@@Portocala694 different championships. Max, Perez+Ferrari, 3-5 teams and bottom 5 teams.
You guys are too harsh on Zhou and Bottas. Sauber are a genuine backmarker team
it's cause hes not white
Yet sometimes can fight against the midfield runners like 2007 Super Aguri...
Instead of doing the highest % fan voting result as the grade…. Do the average score of fans rounded to the closest integer
idk this might be more appropriate, Id rather not consider the 12% who gave Kmag a 10
The averaging would never work because there would be salty fans who will give Max or Lewis and other drivers 0/10 or their favourite drivers 10/10 and it will completely skew the ratings.
So basically the fanboys and haters would even out. Sure Lewis has got a lot of fans, but so does Max, who is likely to give Lewis a lower grade, and vice versa.@@shloksinha2075
@@shloksinha2075 Now I realize it wasn't a great example in my previous comment, but I think you can see my point.
@@shloksinha2075Using the median is good as it almost always ignores such outliers
You all got Tsunoda’s and Sargeant’s places mixed up. Logan was P14 and Yuki P15 due to a post race penalty
I wondered how a guy that finishes 20th every week was a "flop" at a 14 finish. It's shit, but for him it's decent.
@@TheMisfitChef I hope he can keep this mild form and improve.
@@nollienick1121improving further to be in top 10? Definitely.
Yuki actually finished 15th and Sargeant finished 14th. there was a post race penalty on Yuki. check the f1 website results.
Sargeant fans going wild now!
@@voss9842 its just an observation. How can anyone take their rankings seriously if they don't even know the results.
@@Bird_814They are human and that position swap wouldn't change their ratings I'm sure.
@@Bird_814 I bet 0.01% of people who watched knew he got a penalty. I didn't, it was never communicated
@@Pricelessmile well people who run a diehard F1 fan page should know.
Last year Perez tore himself apart trying to beat Max, this year he's got the much easier task of trying to be the second best driver on the grid, so I don't think we'll see the same collapse we saw in 2023..
He finally took advice from Rosberg where he told him to focus race by race on himself and not trying to catch Max
Very good point.
Perez absolutely dominating Ricciardo in the fight for that second Red Bull next season. Albeit Sainz feels like the real competition in that regard.
His problems started when he had won two races (just as Max had) and then started spreading "I can win the championship this year"...
That is when Max intervened in Miami and showed him the reality. From that point on, he was nowhere.
@@Rob2 He was backing himself very vocally in the media and he had a phenomenal start to last year winning 2 races early on. Mentally he put himself under so much pressure and he started making mistakes pushing too hard. We saw silly errors in Australia and Monaco he probably wouldn't normally have made without that pressure.
If you listen to him this year he side steps any question of mounting a title challenge and the media just say he's accepted his position as number 2 driver. The truth is he knows how good Max is but he hasn't abandoned his dream of being F1 champ, he's just being much smarter and not talking himself up. Quietly doing a solid job and I hope he can build on it as the season continues.
I fully expect Max to beat him.. But I don't think we've seen the best of Checo through an entire season at Red Bull yet. I'm hoping he can score a few wins this year and stay within distance of Max until atleast the last 3rd of the season.
@@LeJimster That is just a long version of what I already wrote.
max broke the track record with that qualifying lap as well
The track record is based on race pace - most of the quali laps last weekend beat the standing track record but that’s with lighter fuel loads and fresh tires
there are separate track records kept for quali pace, lewis had the previous from the 2021 season at 1:27.5@@sophiahall2842
You meant the car, right?! If not absolutely delusional.
@@oblique4748 You meant the car doesn’t drive itself right?! - if not absolutely delusional
@@AZBCDE Max gets a 9
-1 point for brining Jos along
There’s an interview with Verstappen where he was asked “If you got a day completely off, what would you do?” And his answer was “Probably go karting.” I do really get the sense that he doesn’t race for glory or to write his name in the history books, but just because he loves racing.
He did an iRacing stream until 4AM right after he got pole. The man is addicted to racing just like Alonso.
.... Could be his 'tism focus point.....
I feel like you're just buying into your own narrative about Sargeant at this point. Both races this year he's been on pace with Alex in the race, until his steering wheel killed his race in Bahrain and he got stuck at the back of the Magnussen train, right behind several other drivers who got higher scores that *also* couldn't get past. He's doing fine, everyone has just decided he's bad.
He only caught up to Albon due to the Kmag train.
Qualifying is wrecking him though. Needs to break that both Alpines, both Saubers and Sargeant out Q1 cycle to make any headway with people.
Agree, driver narratives are way too overplayed though. As someone who was always like, Maldonado, Stroll and Kvyat are lower average, they're nowhere near as bad as they're spoken about and hated the attempts to bracket Kobayashi and Zhou as awful drivers too.
Just what I was about to say! Being near Alex is all he needs to do because honestly, Alex is one of the better drivers in the sport.
Logan also had team orders that he couldn't pass Alex despite asking multiple times
He hasn't destroyed a car yet...that's a W for him 😂
I would like to also see the fan votes in the video instead of just hearing them, including the whole list 1 to 10 with the percentages would make it more clear what the fans thought
There was team radio to logan on lap 25 at T27 when he asked if he could attack Alex. And he was told "no follow Alex" this was after Logan saw Alex lock up. So take that info however you want. EDIT : I uploaded the clip.
@@Redlingstein i also uploaded the clip to my channel if you aren't a f1tv subscriber
@@Bird_814 cheers for uploading that clip 👍 good to see Sargeant hopefully finding his feet now
Well Albon should've approved that message from Sargeant on lap 25 or 26.
Gotta love Lando predicting his cheeky start
Lando scores a 10 for cheekiness every time.
I honestly don’t know what it is about him, but I hate him so much haha… everything about him. Every time he speaks I cringe. I hope he never wins a race
@@luckyspurs we love a cheeky Lando
@@2blkSSs honestly I can see where the hate comes from. That’s me with stroll. I just needed a British driver to support and enjoy seeing him race the most. I follow him and Leclerc. So every race I have high hopes but low expectations
@@2blkSSs I'm sure he cares 😂
At this point I’m convinced Sargaent has to get a race victory for people to give him ANY credit. Logan moved up 4 places in the race from where he qualified and was not that far off from Albon. The Williams was also a bit of a letdown despite Albon finishing P11 as even the commentary noted that they were struggling on the straights which is typically their strong point.
There were 2 retirements so that boosts him a little up the ratings.
But yeah generally I agree. Still think think he’s not good enough though
Given 2 cars didn't finish and one was in the pits for an amount of time even Valtteri Bottas would have got annoyed at, that's not saying much.
Then add in the fact Magnussen was going deliberately slow half the race, having earned nearly half a lap of time penalties.
dont understand why people keep saying magnussen on albon was bad. Albon himself said it was a racing incident
Albon knows that it is inevitable that on some tight twisty corner in the future he will bump wheels with someone on an overtake and if they start handing out 10s every time that happens it's going to be a clown show.
@@fallenshallrise the whole field might end up with 30 second penalties in monaco if every little touch with each other gives penalties now.
Yeah and the Danish f1 "expert" and commentator nicolas kiesa a danish racing driver who also did a little f1 did say he would not say kmag did not deserve the penalty but you could argue it was kmags corner and he just follows the track because it turns a little to the right before the corner and that albon did put himself in that situation because he does not back off and kmag makes it clear that its his corner and he is not going to back off and albon should know by now that kmag does not back off 😂 and later in the race the same thing is about to happen can not remember with who but this time albon does back off and does not get any damage this time
Because they hate KMag
Guys, did you just realized that Gasly is 21st in a 20 cars championship?
Zhou was out of the competition because of another super slow pitstop by Sauba. I don't really blame Zhou for that hence 5/10
Not a word on Hamiltons defending? I mean it was definitely not a spectacular performance by any means, but I feel like he should be given credit for that defense against Piastri.
Zhou disrespect needs to be tuned down a little. The man is driving a tractor and doing remarkably well. His team is definitely holding him back. I bet he has a few great points performances this year.
After the first 2 races the top 10 are as follows:
1. Verstappen (unless he is involved in an accident or has an issue in qualy)
2. Perez (same reasoning)
3 / 4. Ferrari (the driver finishing higher depends on who qualify highest / does not suffer vehicle issues / ferrari strategy)
5 - 9. This is a straght toss up between mclaren, mercedes and alonso. I think that so far, Mclaren have the edge over both aston and mercedes.
10. Theoretically this should go to stroll but given how easy it is to f it up either during qualy or during the race, this is the only position that the other 5 teams can fight for (unless there are retirements)
This means that bearman's 6 points might put him 13 / 14 in the standings at the end of the season.
The points system should be revised so that more drivers can receive points (maybe up to p14) so that the battles / close racing will remain till the end of the season
i think same, there are drivers like Albon and Yuki that are consistent, and for obvious reasons that's not properly rewarded cuz P10 points.
Leave everything aside. The fact that Alonso will be single handedly taking on 2 teams and 4 drivers driving better car than his own on Sundays is absolutely bonkers..
@@DeadZombie38I feel like only having p10+ with points is good, because you put more pressure in the bad teams to improve, if you start giving them an easy fight for points in p10-15 they will be comfortable and their incompetence will be even worse than it is already.
I commented this on the highlights video for the race and people called me crazy
It’s going to be a battle for 10th for the back 5. That haas point could prove super valuable if stroll start finishing races.
KMag 10/10 gave us entertainment and drove like a madman to give Haas points, the GOAT.
Facts
Fax, no printer.
Verstappen then deserves 0/10 every race for lack of entertainment.
Magnussen holding on round the outside to take the place back, then still pushing Tsunoda wide the following corner, is the most gloriously Kevin Magnussen thing ever.
I think Oscar at Jeddah is like lando at Austria. He seems to excel so much at Jeddah, beating his teammate and getting good results as is lando at Austria so I wasn’t surprised when Oscar beat lando in quali and the race though lando went on a different strategy
Great video as always. Suggestion: Could you add team ratings. Stuff like for Gasly, or Bottas last week should be interesting with the team ratings, when both the teams make a good move or mess up should be counted. Thanks and keep up the good work.
I feel the rating for Logan Sargent was harsh. He finished the race yet was voted worse than someone who didn't complete a single lap. I'd also challenge the narrative that he hasn't improved from last season. I think there has been some improvements, debabtle that he's improving at the expected pace.
way too harsh for Zhou, he was P11 for a while and without that awful strategy and pit stop, he could have fought for P10
He wouldn't have, he was only that high because he never pitted and even if he had a normal pitstop he would come out behind the drs train.
Also Bottas pitted a 2nd time for seemingly no reason which is the only reason Zhou would've been ahead
@@ronan1686 Hulk had a similar strategy to him but he pitted earlier and had a normal pit stop. If Sauber had made their job right, he could have avoided the DRS train and hunt Nico. for the P10 i’m not saying he was faster but he was there
@alexeileal3622 the gap between Hulk and Magnussen was way bigger than Zhou and Magnussen
@@ronan1686 You forgot to mentioned that he created quite a gap so if the pitstop was good, he would've kept his positiion.
You know that you truly dropped a HAASterclass when you got 3 years worth of penalties and people still argue for you to be driver of the day
Max's on iRacing. Lewis is hanging out at the fucking Oscars. that puts it into perspective really now doesn't it
I think Max an Lewis are on different life phases. Lewis tries to get the attention he has as a 7 time world champion over to the next phase of his life. He doesn‘t want the attention to end after his career as a racing driver. He wants to stay in the focus of famous people. He wants to shift his perception from a racing driver to a celebrity. Max on the other hand wants to drive and if he can‘t drive an F1 car he drives a virtual one.
Is it illegal to have other hobbies outside of your job?
@@freund_hein I’m a Mercedes fan and was a huge fan of Lewis but these past few seasons he has light years away from the Lewis of past. I’ve been wanting to rant about this so here are my main 3 reasons Lewis is heading towards being washed.
He got too wrapped up in politics and brought that into Mercedes as since then there have been many questionable diversity hires within the organization. He has brought a “woke” culture into the organization which took too much focus off of perform in order to satisfy Lewis’s inclusion programs. That’s a huge reason Mercedes denied his terms to be a long term Mercedes ambassador as he wanted Mercedes to continue supporting these programs of his.
Also as someone with a degree in biomedical sciences who’s doing graduate work in medical chemistry and planning on going to medical school after I think I qualify to speak on the fact Lewis’s vegan diet has likely lead to a gradual decline in his performance. He went vegan in 2017 against his doctors recommendation and despite saying he felt better than ever still performing well at the time that perceived initial boost in energy levels was most likely placebo. The negative effects of a vegan diet usually won’t show up until a while after you’ve started to the diet. This is because a vegan diet requires supplementation of a large variety of micronutrients that you can only get through eating meat or animal products that if you don’t keep up with can have severe health effects like that from B12 deficiency which can cause permanent neurological damage. And a lot of these micro nutrients aren’t found in supplements or at least in a very bioavailable form so there’s a good chance he isn’t getting many of these nutrients in significant quantities. I could go much deeper but I’ve already rambled too much but my main point is a strict vegan diet is probably the worst diet a professional athlete can have especially if they are getting older.
Last short point is he still believes he’s at the top of his game and doesn’t invest anytime into trying to improve himself. He notoriously known for not putting in working on the simulator, which isn’t going to and hasn’t helped him get to terms which the car after a big regulation change like that in 22 or the one upcoming in 26. He survived the changes in 2014 because back then they were allowed to test the car on track nearly unlimitedly which I think shouldn’t have banned imo but my issues with the sporting regs could fit into a whole novel.
@@freund_hein nah Lewis has always been like that. Celebrity first racing car driver second. That's why so many disliked him from the start (aside from the most blatant British bias ever seen in F1).
@@RockSolitudejfc, god forbid drivers like other hobbies.
leclerc is interested in art and music are you gonna give him shit? no you aren't.
the other guy is correct, it's different phases. when you're younger you're more focused on racing, once you have a name you might branch out.
People forget KMag finished P2 on his F1 debut.
Yeah, because he’s sucked ever since
It was nice but he didn't jump into the McLaren the day before, he did all the pre-season testing to get used to the car.
If Guenther Steiner had been team principle for that genius KMag tactic, they'd have made an entire Drive To Survive episode about it.
@@drunkman12345 He literally got pole in a Haas against 8 drivers with a chance of competitive laps. Tell me what car he has had since his 2014 Mclaren that has ever had a chance of a podium.
But he hasn’t had a podium again since.
You guys should do an average for the fan vote, I feel that provides better insight that a popular vote
But then you have guys that give max 1/10 and you’ll have to take into account the 12% of people that gave kmag a 10
@@BeneathTHeaveans that's the point lol, and while I do get that outlier points exist and shouldn't be taken seriously, most of the time they aren't enough to make a meaningful difference
Does Matt and Tommy forget about Zhou lengthy pit stop (and only remember Ricciardo lengthy pitstop)? Rating Bottas higher than Zhou when Bottas literally running at last for most of the race and only winning the teammate race only due to Zhou pit stop mistake. BTW consecutive lengthy pit stop from KIck Sauber/Stake.
They never give a shit. Matt only cares about "lEcLeRc", which is cringe at this point
I like these guys but they don’t take notes during the race and really just bullshit their way through these segments. To me it’s like talking to a couple of dudes at the pub who have strong opinions but only really watch the action between swigs from their pints.
People are talking about Magnussen passing Yuki like he was doing a Mario Kart speed run and skipping half of the the racetrack. The move was done and the mistake was by a few FEET. Yuki got schooled.
And his collision with Albon was a racing incident. The corner was his and Alex stuffed his car in a position it shouldn't have been in and they had a MINOR contact.
Did Logan turn you guys down for an interview or something?! He had a perfectly fine race, on pace with Albon, WHO HE WAS ORDERED NOT TO ATTACK. Or is this some kind of bias where you're so far up Antonelli's ass that you're trying to justify a seat for him by any means?
Tommy could not be more wrong about Magnussen. The pundits are even saying that his penalties were harsh. Albon described their coming together as a racing incident because of the way the corner and the wall were placed. Then watch his lap times and it is clear this was a mega drive. I give him an 8, but a 5 makes me wonder what you were watching.
Tommy is a Yuki fan though so he is a bit bias.
Average ratings after Saudi Arabia.
Average Matt ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9
Sergio Perez: 8.5
Charles Leclerc: 8.5
Oscar Piastri: 8
Fernando Alonso: 8
George Russell: 7.5
Lando Norris: 7
Kevin Magnussen: 7
Zhou Guanyu: 6.5
Lewis Hamilton: 6.5
Alex Albon: 6.5
Nico Hulkenberg: 6.5
Yuki Tsunoda: 6
Lance Stroll: 5
Valtteri Bottas: 5
Esteban Ocon: 5
Daniel Ricciardo: 4.5
Logan Sargeant: 4.5
Pierre Gasly: 4.5
Average Tommy ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9
Sergio Perez: 8.5
Charles Leclerc: 8.5
Oscar Piastri: 8
Fernando Alonso: 8
George Russell: 7.5
Lando Norris: 7
Lewis Hamilton: 6.5
Alex Albon: 6.5
Zhou Guanyu: 6
Kevin Magnussen: 6
Esteban Ocon: 6
Yuki Tsunoda: 5.5
Nico Hulkenberg: 5.5
Logan Sargeant: 4.5
Valtteri Bottas: 4.5
Pierre Gasly: 4.5
Lance Stroll: 4
Daniel Ricciardo: 3.5
Average fan ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 9
Sergio Perez: 8.5
Charles Leclerc: 8
Kevin Magnussen: 8
Fernando Alonso: 7.5
Oscar Piastri: 7.5
Lando Norris: 7
George Russell: 7
Nico Hulkenberg: 7
Zhou Guanyu: 6.5
Alex Albon: 6.5
Lewis Hamilton: 6
Yuki Tsunoda: 5.5
Lance Stroll: 5
Pierre Gasly: 5
Esteban Ocon: 5
Valtteri Bottas: 4.5
Daniel Ricciardo: 4
Logan Sargeant: 4
I think HAAS have proven everyone wrong so far... even myself!
I'm really happy for their new team principle.
Feels like people always rush to trash the quiet guy who comes in to replace the guy with the big personality, who was great for content.
Kmag just gave the best argument for why point scoring positions should be increased so haas can't have kmag sac his race to secure 10 for hulk
Nah he gave an argument why it should not be increased. Because that was fascinating to watch and was pure teamwork
I fully agree. Increase the points position until the last place. 20-10 increase with one point per position, higher up can increase with the difference now. That way every single position is worth fighting for and will make for a much more interesting championship for the entire season and at every position.
I’d argue the opposite, honestly. This was the most interesting part of the race and it wouldn’t have happened if every finishing position gained points. And it required teamwork too.
@@regulator062 and it's a slipery slope now it seems everytime a top 10 car crash this should be the no 1 stategy to secure a point
@@petiertjePoints need to be earned not automatically awarded. With points given to half the cars I think the system is fine the way it is.
Love seeing Tommy this ruthless 😂
i hate how i watch every single one of these ratings even though they mess the stats and facts up like how the hell do they forget zhou was running behind hulk in p11 before the pitstop and the sargeant p14, not to mention the fact that he wasnt allowed to attack alex by the team
I don't think Lando deserves more than a 5 after finishing so far behind Piastri and not being able to get closer to Bearman on soft tires against his hard
and especially he didn't deserve the same grade as Russel who comfortably beat Hamilton
Don't forget, british bias
He was put on the wrong strategy because of Stroll and had a terrible pitstop that put him way to close to Lewis, so he used the tires to defend Lewis, not catch Bearmann, remember he led the race and was showing great pace
Claiming that Kmags move on Albon was 'redicilous' and 'shoved Albon in the wall' is a bit harsh. Albon has himself claimed that he has no issues with the contact and it was due to the how the corner is shaped.
Then rating Hulk a 8/9 for a 'good drive' largely due to his result. But without the defensive driving my Kmag, he would not have been close to that result.After the pitstop, he would have ended around P16 with slim chances to advance more than one or two places. In that case, I doubt he would have cashed such a high ranking, even though he may have delivered the same performance.
Ratings a bit off there, guys...
Absolutely fascinated to find out what Magnussen got.
Never been more fascinated in fact.
You guys should present team ratings as well.
Was Hoping this season you would also grade the teams, on pitstops, their strategy and how well they ran.
Would of been interesting to see how your end of year points would compare with the constructors championship.
Still love your drivers rating though. 👍
Max was impressed with Oliver and we all know he would not have said it if he wasn’t
please!
3 for Zhou is very harsh since he had a good race untill the pit stop ruined it. It would have been at least P11
There were also 7-8% op voters that voted for Lewis as driver of the day. I don’t understand why people would vote for him this weekend.
People just vote for who provides most entertainment. And he did some decent defending from oscar. Apart from that, it was a stinker of a weekend from him.
They just blindly vote for him
Probably because he held off Piastri for so long and got lots of airtime during the race because of it.
I mean aren't that what it meant to vote though? People are allowed to have opinions. I don't understand the gatekeeping mentality. And yes I agree Lewis have a bad weekend but it's ain't that deep that people would vote for him either, man obviously have a lot of fans. And I am not team LH either, I am team CR7 and you may wonder why I end up here but it's ain't that deep either, shit happen I supposed.
Yeah that made no sense. They gave it for his “defence against piastri” but he basically wasn’t defending, that mclaren was just so unbelievably slow in a straight line even with DRS and slipstream. Anyone rating that shouldn’t be voting lol.
Again and again, Matt and Tommy showed that they simply don't put in the effort nor take the time to analyze what happened in the race for the lower teams/drivers. Also with the inconsistency with factoring and not factoring free practice and qualifying with the ratings. How can they not mention a single time how Zhou was able to manage his tires for 42 laps while staying around P10-12 for most of the race. Didn't even mentioned how the pit stop screwed his race over. They say they're going to be "more fair" with the lower teams/drivers but went right to being unfair to driver like Zhou. I am sick and tired of Matt and Tommy's biases toward certain drivers/team.
100% agreed horrible judgement, I can’t believe they do this for a living and are so bad at it. I knew who Matt was and I come from time to time to watch some of their videos but man I can’t finish them, this is the first time a leave a bad comment on something but I am in disbelief that someone so bad at their job still has it.
I think the strategy for Lando was accounting for a possible 5 sec penalty which he would have to serve during his pit stop but as the penalty had not been issued till the safety car they opted to delay the single pitstop till they had confirmation 17:39
Yes, Ollie Bearman did a very good job. Probably even exceeded Ferrari's expectations. But if that gets him a 10, what would you have rated him if he got in to Q3 or finished in P4 only a few seconds behind Leclerc?
25:07 Indeed. Greatest prime of all time. The GPOAT whose shelf life will be the determinating factor for the GOAT status.
Looking forward to Albert Park, I think its the first race of the season that the track is not a outlier and will give the best indication of where everyone is to date. K Mag has always run well here even in a dog of a car so now he has what appears to be a much approved HAAS it will be interesting how he goes, another Q3 is on the cards. I think we are going to see some of the bottom half cars get to play with Aston, Mercedes and McLaren during the race.
Lec also snagged the fastest lap on the last lap which the way things have been Ver has been doing that so I think Lec did everything possible in that car, 3rd with fastest lap. idk I think he was close to a 10
@Redlingstein so did leclerc
Where was the link to vote? I must’ve checked 15 times since the race…
Lando, Hamilton, Hulkenburg, and Zhou were all kinda screwed by the safety car; their teammates were so close that they couldn't pull off a double-stack. The first three of those ended up in the gap created by Kmag. Each was correct in staying out. If they pitted, it'd be betting that neither driver got held up from traffic or mishap; that's a poor bet, considering that other drivers did get held up in the melee.
I have a suggestion for your rating vids: You could count the points every driver gets from you throughout the season and display them in a screen. Maybe even average scoring for each driver, a graph, p1 count and/or 10/10 count. I would love to see that.
I find it quite hard to remember all the superb and the all horrible performances. That would make it a lot easier ;)
Magnussen ratings are insane, it doesn't matter that he got penalties, he got his team a point, he litterally couldn't do more than that in his car. If this was a top team driver it would be a 9 or 10/10 for sure
These guys are becoming intolerable and biased
IMO it very much matters that he got penalties because of how overt they were. He almost ended 2 other’s races. Like they said, if it wasn’t for that he could’ve been in the contention to score points himself
Yes it ABSOLUTELY matters that he got penalties. That means he broke the rules to achieve the result.
If penalties don't matter then any divebombing rammer can get an F1 seat as long as their team scores. Driving standards matter.
@@GloomGaiGarHe didn't know he would get a penalty for the Tsunoda incident, he saw a gap and took it and had to do massive corrections to not lose the car. If he was told to give the position back, then he wouldn't get a penalty and he would be able to overtake on the next corner or the next straight, because he was massively faster than Tsunoda, so it made absolutely no difference, they could still do this strategy anyway.
@@Weezy10580 Max gets a 9
-1 point for brining Jos along
You guys need to pay attention more to what is going on. Logan was sent out in rush hour traffic to complete his final run - if not he would have made it into Q2. But it's comfortable to go with the "Americans don't belong here" narrative that F1 culture thrives on. He was set up by Vowels to fail. Had he actually been given a clean run, he would have knocked Albon out in Q1 as Albon was 15th and his time was reachable.
I feel like I've finally been an F1 fan for too long and I'm out of touch with how these guys think. KMag was ahead and tapped Albon's front wheel with his back wheel like a pro, proper old school overtake and they call it erratic and ridiculous like this is the first time ever 2 cars have made contact during an overtake. And yes KMag went off track after he got the move on Yuki done like a hundred drivers have done out of the tunnel at Monaco or at Monza and he got a penalty for it. Done.
A penalty is a penalty. He basically threw his driving standards away to get that result for Haas. That fact that even you could see Kmag intended the collision speaks volumes does it not? That's fine in sports cars but not in F1.
For every "proper old school overtake" with contact there are equally as many with no contact or penalties.
He literally said he wasn’t thinking on the post race interview
the more you listen the less competent they sound
@@GloomGaiGar Albon called it racing incident.
Honestly I am with you 100% what are these guys talking about. For someone whose job is to talk about f1 they are really bad at it. They talk like they are biased to certain drivers, Albon even said kmags move was a racing incident. And judgment is lacking, bearman got a 10😂 yeah it was hype to see a young rookie driver do that but come on not a 10/10 he was driving the second fastest car, leclerc got a 9 when he maximised everything and I am a sainz fan not a leclerc, but bearman did not have a better race than leclerc, only reason he stayed there was because naturally Ferrari is faster than everyone behind him and McLaren and merc suicided their placement because the second sc never came and they lost the gamble. Giving your 100% and finishing 7 with the 2nd fastest car should not give you a 10, they fall for the hype train and they tunnel vision on what will make a good thumbnail.
Tommy was on one today 😂 good stuff
Kmag was an evil mastermind, holding all the train behind him and making them loose the chance to gain 1 point. He deserves 8/10. Just sacrificed a lost race for 1 point for Haas. Without him, Hulk never had the chance to do it.
True. I feel they are abit haarsh towards K.Mag.
Except the team planned that not him. He simply ended in that position.
Where can we find the link for next weeks fan vote? Saw the community post for the Bahrain but not Saudi Arabia...
What else can Charles do to get 10? His qualy lap was amazing, didn't do any mistakes and got fastest lap.
When you do a list of all driver ratings, can you also include an additional list for the viewer votes?
Magnussen was absolutely on it in Jeddah! When asked by the team to drive 36's he kept doing 36,2 - 36,2 - 36,2.... Just a clockwork!
13:04 You don’t ask that question!!!!! We’re going to find out now!!!
Suggestion regarding the fan ratings: could you add a graphic whenever you mention them, showing which % of people voted for what grade?
That way we can see how popular our opinion was compared to what the most popular was. It’s also interesting to see where people agree with all 6s and 7s, and where it’s either a 5 or a 10.
I don’t think it’d take too much time in the edit either. Then again, I’m no editor, so take that with a grain of salt.
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How can anyone blame DR3 for a 41 second pit stop? As usual, he was on the way up when Tsunoda was on the way down.
"Only lost a place" too from Tommy?? like no Tommy he lost 4 places at the minimum and had cooling issues with the car for like 15 laps as well. His Yuki bias is showing but stuff that I want the whole team to do well, here is hoping RB do a better job in Aus!
You should do team rating. Strategy, pit stops, car setup.
Bearman did the best you could expect. Did you guys see the picture of his headrest after the race? It was deformed from his helmet hitting it under the intense G's from driving an F1 car!
He was in a Ferrari and he has driven F1 cars before - People are overhyping this... Maybe it's because he is from the UK....
I will keep saying it, you should ALSO do 10 team ratings to rank team orders, if they gave the drivers a good car etc.
Can't believe you compared bearman with stroll 😅
Lando was forced onto that strategy due to him and Oscar being to close to each other when the Safety car came out, and not wanting to double stack the pitstop. The same case with the Merc.
Has Liam Lawton’s effort to replace Dani in Zaandvort been forgotten? Bearman will be quick, but Lawsons’s result in a much worse car is not to be ignored.
Lawson needs to be getting Ricciardo's drive next season.
But I do think Bearman being 18 and Lawson 21 at the time of that drive, plays into the way they're spoken about. As well as a bit of English bias (as an English person myself).
I do think there is some recency bias, however, Lawson didn’t score points until singapore (his second or third race) whereas bearman did this with an hour of practice
Both of these drivers deserve seats . Mainly Lawson over Daniel . Daniel is a great RB PR Starboy
@@luckyspursand Ricciardo should get the Seat of Perez 😂
@danielhartson8114 lawson wasn't driving a ferrari was he
Tommy: I'm not wrong, the Fans are Wrong!!! haha
Tommy you’re not wrong and i approve this comment!!! 😂
I give K-Mag a 4
Totally agree. 12% giving K-Mag 10/10?? They’re nuts!
8/10
I might just have to use squarespace to create a time since Tommy was last wrong website solely because of that!
As a fan I fully agree with Tommy. I could give him a 6 but thought that was still generous. Are we giving Nelson Piquet a 10 for getting those points for his teammate?
flip Tsunodas and Sargeants results there was a post race penalty
Agree about Magnussen having some mistakes. But remember that even in soccer, defenders go for tactical yellow cards
Calling the Alpine a dustbin is probably the most accurate metaphor I have come across thus far
i guess the kick symbol on the timing boards is invisible based on the zhou and bottas ratings
I think it would be cool if you could do like a car rating for each race too, obviously Red Bull would be clear this race but it would be nice to see what machinery you think is performing well each weekend
For example I would say in Saudi the care order was something like this:
1. Red Bull
2. Ferrari
3. Mclaren
4. Mercedes
5. Aston Martin
6. Haas
etc
Would be cool to see how the technical aspect is developing and how that affects the grades of the drivers.
I feel like some drivers, like Albon, Hulkenberg, etc, are penalized for driving slower cars.
I feel like people are a little generous with Bearman considering he was in the second fastest car
I think the difficulty of the Saudi Arabia track has to play a factor though.
It was a particularly hard track to come in to.
I think the expectations on rookies are usually quite low so whenever they have a decent/good performance they hype is through the roof. The hunger for great rookies that can become future stars is also a factor given how scarce the past 4/5 seasons have been in that regard.
I agree, he did really good, but not a 10 score good, i would haven given him a 8
@@soundscape26 Also people want someone to challenge Verstappen long term, beyond just Leclerc, Russell and Norris.
@@luckyspurs And Piastri which was the only future star rookie we got for the last 4 or 5 seasons.
IMO Kmags move on Albon was not as dirty as everyone seem to think. It is probaly a 50/50 chance of a penalty, since kmag would literally have to stop to let Albon go side by side. This kind of squeezing happens so often, and most of the time the behind driver backs off. Harsh to call it "ridiculous"
He was actually half a car length ahead, can't really see how that became a penalty, Albon should have backed out of it - The Tsunoda incident was for sure a penalty, but not the Albon one...
@@Tomas-80 Yeah, no sense in defending the incident with Tsunoda
3/10 is a little harsh for Zhou ....you cant blame him for crashing in practice....he was running 11th till lap 40 something and then had a 29 second pitstop which just put him last
Did someone else crash his car in practice?
K-mag was more then 20s in front of Ocon. He did even lap times with Hulk after holding everybody up. So that car was 20s faster then Vcarb, Sauber and Alpine.... and Ocon gets a higher grade?
Max his last out of top10 finish (without DNF's) was in 2016 at the Belgian GP........and now he's won 19 of the last 20gp's :|
Youve done K Mag dirty Tommy!!😢 10/10 performance. Was like Dom Toretto in a Toyota Yaris
He sacrificed his race for family.
@@Sigil_FirebrandBut only after screwing up
From what I remember, Lawson did a great race... but the second one. In the first, the Dutch GP he was always no where. Only in the second GP he did some performance. Ollie did in the first GP with just 45 minutes of practice in that car.
7/10 for Yuki! 8 qualifying and finished stronger than Riccardo.
All he did was lose positions. How does he deserve anything higher than a 5?
@@ryryrichard5988 He finished higher than his teammate Ricciardo.
@@cutebalddiver by one position even though he started 9th. Doesn’t deserve any higher than a 5
@@ryryrichard5988 ruclips.net/video/R7l-vD-CjGI/видео.htmlsi=aXInXH-V1QlLVBix
At least KMag gave us something interesting to watch. That’s worth points in my book.
10/10 for K Mag, would have got 10th place, if not for those stupid penalties, and ofcourse he was a class train conductor
its basicallly like splitting the grid into almost 2 equal parts the first 9 include the redbull, ferrari, merc, mclaren and alonso in the top 9 slots in the grid.
then we have the other half the backmarkers and the midfield from 10-20... fighting for the one point finish and i belive u have to split the grid into two sometimes u gotta think ye that team is bad, but wow has the team delivered this week... at this point we got the lower part of the grid become lively... it always was wasent it since the new era...
I hope the drs works for other teams in dirty air like it does for redbull cause seeing the like of mclaren struggling to even overtake others with drs is a bad sign and the forming of the drs trains just highlights that just drs isnt enough even with the boost they recive from ers is good it doesnt completely solve it or new regulations need to come into place to make the dirty air situation better overall
RB really need to prioritise getting Tsunoda 10th places, rather than pretending Ricciardo is anything like the driver he was 5-10 years ago.
Bottas got higher score than Zhou?!? Is this a joke? Zhou even that he hit the wall at training was able to ride at 11th behind HUL and he would end at much higher position if Haas would not screen him at pit-stop. Comparing to useless BOT which done absolutely nothing.
Where can we vote for the driver ratings?
Stroll doing his best to help the RocketPoweredMohawks content
COINCIDENCE???
I think not!
I really wish you would also do a team rating. Plenty of times 2 drivers do fine but the team lets them down, or Haas for example making the plans this week to secure a point deserves some acknowledgment too imo.
Why not 10 for Piastri