Me and my friend were attacked by kids with co2 bb guns a few years a go. My friend suffered permanent blindness in his right eye and i had to get a bb surgically removed from my throat... People can make fun of bb guns but they can definitely do serious harm.
GOOD JOB! You proved my right and totally knock those comments down (those who look down on bb guns). Yes, and that is a shot or two that you guys took only, imagine a mag of 19 or 18 emptied on you, i doubt it's gonna be fun. Your friend got permanent blindness man, that's really sad. Did you guys sue the kids or something later? But let me tell ya, and you might think this way too - Sue? Use money to sue, and might result in nothing that comes back, and also, it won't bring you the eyes back too. Sad, but that's reality. I feel the pain for you and your friend man. Thanks for watching my vid!
The kids ran off and were never found, i don't think they understood the seriousness of what they were doing until they saw how injured we were. luckily my friend only got shot in one eye, so he is still able to read/write with his other eye.
Kimbo Slice Damn that is a permanent damage man, blind in one eye can cause dizziness, lost of balance and even other shit to happen too. Hope your friend will be fine and not have to have too much suffering later on. I have heard from a friend that he also witnessed a guy shooting another guy in the face with a pellet gun, Walther CP99, and it punched the guy's eyes out forever too. One pellet, one eye is gone SCARY SHIT. Who say it's a toy? BB guns are not toys, you can't just handle it to a baby and let them goof around with it, lol! They must be treated with proper gun safety and such! That's also one point why I make this video too, just so people can know and not underestimate the power of these guns.
***** I have a vid up somewhere but I don't remember where it is now. The T8.1 required some tweakings, which is easy to do, and require about 1minute of work. After that, you need special ammo (breaker balls, 6.2g glass round with rubber coating) for the job. You can't use paintballs or reballs for the job, it's not going to work. With the T8.1 stock power, you will hurt someone badly but it won't kill them if you need to kill. With the tweaked T8.1, killing is already one of your option. You can put them down or you can put them to death, it's an "option" there for you. Why T8.1 work? Because stopping power. Blunt force trauma is what it is called. The power of the T8.1 (muzzle energy) is about 30-33 joules when tweaked. That is like over 10x more energy than a bb gun or Co2 pellet gun. Beside that, because of the breaker ball's weight and size, it will have a lot more momentum and stopping power, which is what "drops" your opponent. It won't "ouch" them anymore, it will make them drop to the round like they forgot their feet. I have a video with a guy using a 5-6 joules setting gun to fire a breaker ball at his friend, the guy dropped like chicken lost its feet instantly and popped down the ground without any ouch. It's insane. That is a 5-6 joules shot only, imagine we are talking about 30 joules....? See this vid: ruclips.net/video/KBhZJACn9Pw/видео.html If you want I can do some ballistic math here to show you more facts and numbers, but it's very obvious with the math done that the T8.1 can drop and kill, while the 4.5mm or even .22cal won't drop people down.
***** The J941 goes around 495 to almost 500 FPS on chrono test on a good day. The SW MP goes to 480ish FPS. The steyr is also at 480ish and you can say that is VERY compact, more compact than the MP pistol. XBG and TDP is bulky, and Colt Defender is very much useless with the internal built in mag so you have no way to reload it quick, and fps is around 420ish only. XBG and TDP is a nice cheap option for power at that price range, but not 'small' for sure. They are bulky and fat in hand, where the Steyr M9A1 is totally sleek and just fit your hand like a glove.
+Varvara Bell - Nope because that gun have bad accuracy and grouping is very shitty, plus the gun is firing at the mid 300 range only, and not even over 400 fps. It's not good enough for sure. You have better choices, why pick a weaker one? You like Makarov? 360 fps with steel bbs is only 1.48 fpe, but a 420 fps is at 2.01 fpe. Big difference man. Takes 2 fpe to kill a duck, and 1.4 fpe is not enough, difference in power there
I've watched all your videos very informative, informational and good knowledge to have thank you for taking the time out to share information that could help possibly save a life... Thank you so much..😊
I recently rewatched this video. No mention of the Umarex XBG? I found one for $20. Also adding a laser would make the pistol easier to aim in a self defense scenario.
Trust me a co2 pistol will definitely damage someone even if it was just in the leg it will slow you down and I trust my replica BB gun with my life! FYI I’m in Canada and I’m 14 so guns are definitely not an option also love the vids man!
***** The drozd blackbird is a fun gun only, if you plan to use it for self defense, the deployment method is too slow, plus if you use Co2, it freezes up very fast, and if you use HPA, you need to setup the tank so they can be quickly deployed, which is a hassle on this gun, and then the gun needs battery to operate which is a bad option (because battery can fail or even flicking on a switch is already more work to do under stress). Also it's not compact at all. If you held one in hand yourself, you will know.. it's bulky. Not also forget that a blackbird with high FPS will not have much "stopping power" and so you will be chasing after you opponent and firing steel BBs into him while he kept on OUCH OUCH OUCH and bounce his way out like a bunny. You might end up having some steel bb implanted into his flesh, but it won't kill him or anything and there goes the evidence to sue you later on. Many break in case is the burglar will sue the home owner back because of whatever shit reason. You see someone break into your house, you want something that can drop him down for good. Not that you have to talk about firearms, but a T8.1 definitely will do the job right in terms of AIR WEAPON class. The drozd and blackbird are not my kinda options for sure. Way too much hassle for too little stopping power.
Hi I was wondering if in this what if situation amongst the guns you mentioned that would make the cut, non blow back, xbg tdp etc. Would the Umarex Makarov non blow back version be an option too? The gun is rated 380 fps, and in warm weather should shoot around 390fps and probably will shoot a little lower as co2 empties, or in cold weather, like 360 fps. I think it can penetrate a soup can. Would this gun make the cut?
For 1. The blowback system just uses more co2 to get the blowback done, so it is using the same fps as non blowback guns.. co2 will just simply run out quicker, if you understand what I mean.. 2. I have a blow back and it is rated 430fps and it is proven with meter at 389fps on a humid day. Aside that good video.
Hi, just a new question. Under the circumstances of a last castle defense bb gun. So a gun that would never be used outside your home for self defense, only indoors in you most inner private space, at ranges maybe max 30 feet. Would the drozd blackbird be a good option? It seems it would to me, considering it's performance, tactical options and compact size. Out side the home it would be just a usual hobby and target shooting gun, but indoors at shorter ranges seems there is lots of potential, flash light, laser, optics, high fps, and a barrage of consistent fire.
B Walsh i have a daisy powerline 415, co2 cartridge last me about 5-6 clips (full reloads, 21 shots, in this case cause the magazine is in the top) but i leave the cartridge in my gun for 3-4 days. Id look into it because everything is to be considered. Temperature, humidity, etc. Hope this helps you out yo
I wonder if it's legal to do this in your state, but I have an RCF CO2 revolver and modified it. First I modified the hammer spring, giving it a harder kick. Then I modify the valve, giving it more powerful burst. And last, I bored the six shells (choose the all brass ones, not the ones with rubber ends) to fit .25 pellet, and replace the inner barrel with a .25 caliber rifled barrel. The result is a considerably powerful CO2 revolver (naturally it used up the CO2 much more quickly than before, but that's a small price to pay). Using a H&N Grizzly 31gr .25 pellet, I chronoed it at about 650fps. That's about 43 joule if I calculate correctly, and at 5-10 meter distance, that would definitely do a lot more harms than most standard air pistols. I suspect if I replaced the CO2 system with a small PCP tank (I did something like that with my Crosman 1077 and it worked, nearly doubling its original power), it would get even more powerful, even if not lethal. Still not an equal replacement for a firearm, I know, but it's still better than nothing.
Edwin Hendra Kusuma Indonesia? Hehehe. I did almost the same to my RCF Makarov. Powerful enough to hit a thief one day. He dropped like durian jatuh. LOL.
Could you please explain why the T8.1 is the best option, or make a video on it. Don't you have to modify the T8.1 or is it good to go out of the box stock with 12 gram co2 for the purpose I ask in an air class gun. Your input is much appreciated :)
Varvara Bell the t8.1 produces much more damage on impact due to the mass of the breaker ball your getting around 20 foot pounds energy as to where with bb gun your only getting 6-7 foot pounds energy ive been shot multiple times by both as a testing experiment the bb gun hurts but the breaker balls will drop you on the first shot the breaker ball actually went into my stomach a little
Some good points. Keeping a knife in the left hand in the left hand while shooting with the right can be used if the person still wants to try and attack you after being shot. My stock is nearly finished, I've put a coat of rubberized paint on. Just waiting for it to dry.
NICE I like rubberized paint, very cool effect! Ya, if the guy come at you, martial arts will kick in, and a knife is also nice backup too. Whatever works man, who say you can ONLY use the gun in a real life situation? LOL1
They can be dangerous. If pumped to the maximum recommended 10 times, my daisy powerline 880 can penetrate a millimeter of steel at 10 yards. I'd hate to see what that would do to someone shot with it.
+Chiinnature I have a squirrel problem. What is the best and most powerful BB/Pellet gun pistol for them. And where can I purchase a laser beam light for it.
+Benedict Benito - yes the XBG will do the trick, same idea, same concept and design. I said in the video, all the guns in that kind of design will dot he job
Looking for reviews of the XBG was what led me to the MakHobby channel and then to this channel. :) I was wondering if there were any reliability or durability issues you had with the XBG compared to the pistols you presented in this video. I saw the other XBG videos in your MakHobby channel and I was surprised not to see that pistol in this video.
Benedict Benito haha, that is because my XBG is beefed up to a carbine now and is not a pistol anymore. I installed that kit and got it to be an SMG now. There are no issues with the XBG so far, with a few very fast shooting and abusive test, no problem at all, shoots like a champ!
Hello, for that purpose, which is better? Crosman C31, Crosman Vigilante, Umarex XBG or ASG Steyr m9a1? I want to buy one for fun purpose, plinking etc, but like last resource which is better (for self defense)?
+ Chiinnature That's what I suspected, but I thought to ask someone who would know more, thanks. I do like it and it's compact size. Which I thought might put it amongst the choices. Its certainly a nice collectors gun though. What kind of fpe does the Jericho 941 and the Smith & Wesson M&P have? Though I'd like a smaller gun suited for a lady, and I have small hands. I do like the compact ones. I have been thinking on the XBG, TDP and the Colt Defender. Thanks for the reply. I subbed :)
Thanks! No because the J941's mag is too heavy and expensive to replace. Cheaper option like this will give you more shots in the long run and also even you drop a few mags on the ground and they broke, it's cheap to replace. LOL!
Hi can you tell me what you think about the dasiy powerline 415 it doesnt load fast but its to go 500 fps what do u think ? it also has 19 shot and very accu.and u get 38 powerful shots then it drops alittle it uses up all the co2 just about at 57 shot total.
The REAL Skull Breakers Rounds VS Coconut and Ballistic Gel - this is the power monster you want if you are looking for "power". A 500fps with 4.5mm bbs is very weak still. LOL! But ya, I don't like the daisy.. it's too ugly and plastic....
I own a Walther PPS and a HK P30 ( I like the Walther very very much- the design, trigger etc ) but it seems the HK P30 would be the right choice for s.def. incase a BB gun would be the only option ?! thanks for the video...I like your videos...
+zanzakable I will not use the J941 because the mag is too heavy and badly balanced with the whole gun. The lighter weight ones are better in this situation.
+Benedict Benito - no, the steel storm is not a pistol, it's an SMG. Also the gun only have 30 shots and then you are on SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE mode, which makes reloading much harder than dump and shove in a mag stick. That's why I don't pick that gun, and it's too clumsy too.
Benedict Benito Welcome! The burst mode also result in less energy too, because a burst mode on the steel storm or steel force will only be around 250 fps with the steel BBs, and that is quite weak too. See the video with my 0.68 cal paintball for self defense? that one is also awesome to watch, and it's definitely something that stop people like a firearm! (when shot on the right spot). Firearm pistols of course can stop someone, if you dump them a mag!
If legal issues are put aside, it is one of the best choice there for the power issue, but honestly, it's not a choice I will personally pick for sure. Plus again, legal issues is something you cannot ignore too. A lot of places have laws that will not allow you to use this kind of methods for SD.
great video very interesting .. so a .177 travelling 500+ fps is ok for self defence ? if you hit head? im sure it would be enough to stop an intruder ? with a 21 clip ? thats alot of pain
it does ouch and hurt, but STOP is anothert hing. The guy is not your friend, so his goal is to kill you, and if he can make it to your face and give you a knife cut faster than your trigger finger, you are fucked. While my other choice, a Tiberius T8.1 tuned up to 30 joules, one shot he is DOWN the ground, and not just painful
Im kinda new in this thing.. i just tried makarov with Co2 inside yesterday i dont what type of makarov it is.. he said it was full steel(perhaps he means is full metal), is it meet the criteria ? please give me type recommendation with about 500 fps and up i couldnt find it
m surga savero Yours should be the Baikal Makarov, the real gun converted into 4.5mm steel BB shooter, or shooting lead balls. Not accurate for sure. My friend got one and only liked it for a day for realism, and after shooting a lot, he find that gun is very bad in accuracy, so sold it.... 500fps for a pistol? I don't think there is many guns that will match this in the BB gun category. You like a pistol that is POWERFUL only right? does it HAVE to be BB shooting?
aha i see its baikal makarov.. well it is my first time trying.. i though it was real gun at first so realistic, yes i need powerful pistol to carry around enough to stop robber or thug chasing me while i defense myself.. which one is more powerful for such purpose BB/Pellets ??.. but at least have 10/15m effective range and im thinking of getting Blank gun also, ive been few times almost got robbed when i was riding, he stop me and grope my pocket but glad theres someone passing the street at that night
***** i couldnt find the realistic one.. it has to be realistic at some point, not a weird design gun hehe... by the way what i mean with BB is bb steel
***** so? not over 500 though. The Jericho 941 can fire around 490 fps on my chronograph too, but you see, 490fps with steel BB is very weak too, if you are talking about self defense power... that's just like a 3-4 joules....
m surga savero Forget about the BB guns for self defense, go with pepper balls. You will be much better off with those. They work , at least...! See my other video? - ruclips.net/video/sjpgGvnjFEA/видео.html
how about glue two of those cheap bb pistol to make single double barreled bb pistol? Perhape even duel wield couple of double barrel bb pistol makeing for 4 bbs launched with every squeeze of trigger (both right and left hand). I doubt criminal will stand around and be easy target. He wil weave and dodge so hitting face/neck will be hard
andy m. smith I did the test with my better power guns, because I find that the 4.5mm is useless for the job. LOL! Check this one out --> ruclips.net/video/wDDAa5A8DFs/видео.html
hi bro, I've watch some of your videos about airgun and airsoftgun. and yes I live in a country which is nearly impossible to have a firearms for my own. so could you please suggest me which one is better option for self defense : -Steyr m9a1 6mm bb 3joule -KWC Jericho 4.5 mm bb -Umarex Walther CP88 pellet non blowback those three models are available for me to buy from a local shop in my area, hope you can help me decide. :)
Deardo Herlambang From what I know, Indonesia is also okay with paintball right? Did you look into the Tiberius T8.1 i have shown before? That pistol can generate a freaky and deadly power of 30 joules with breaker balls, cracking coconut and blasting through watermelons. Way better choice than an airgun though
yes, but there is no store selling such marker here in indonesia. even other paintball marker is still pretty hart to get here. I've done my research for 1 month about whoever might sell paintball pistol here, and I got no luck. to buy them online from outside of indonesia is nearly impossible though, they prohibit any kind of gun/airgun/airsoftgun passing through customs by random citizen like me, I cant even order them online, that need somekind of special permission that then again nearly impossible to get. my only chance are bb guns or pellet guns. ps: idont even mind if its pistols or SMG kinda gun :)
Thanks again , I will try to pick up a CP99 now. I picked up a Tippman TiPX and some 16 1/2 mm marbles once I saw your video on using a paint ball pistol for self defense. I know you like the Tiberious better . But I prefer the TiPX. Thanks again Good useful info in this video.
+Tyler Gage why do you have a bb gun in your hand or on your body at the first stage? and how can you predict the guy doesn't have any firearm on his body as well (could be concealed). He can come at you with a knife, but doesn't mean he don't have a gun in the pants with a IWB hoslter dude. You take a gun out, he freaks out and he point the real gun at you then you are fucked hard. If you don't fucking point a bb gun at him, you can fight with your hands and try your best to get away too. Why even risk the guy pulling a firearm out on you when your bb gun have no power to really drop him down if any shit happens?! That's just stupid to do. IF your gun have the power to drop a man, then it is another story. BB gun is NEVER a good idea
yeah it sounds stupid as fuck sir your right that guy can have a real gun and shoot my ass i dont always take it with me i useally use it for target pratice im not out looking for trouble and the thing is iam a felon i did something really stupid when i was a kid do you suggest mace or lathal force like a bean bag shot gun or pistol or a lathal paint ball gun that shoots breaker balls i wasnt trying to insult you in anyway and yes ive seen your collection of guns and you have a shit load but yeah i feel stupid cause we are not living in a world were people are just packing knifes and stuff like that but like i said i love all of your videos and the 40 x p umrex bb gun i do have does have power even being a blow back cause ive shot through a thick plate of metal and it went through what surpised me but thanks for the input
+Tyler Gage I guess it would be better if you start using commas and full stop for your sentences. You type like a robot and I can barely understand what you are trying to say dude. Do you know that "penetration" is not equal to power? That is a very very very wrong concept you have about ballistics. Lead pellets do not penetrate as good as steel bb, but they can output more kinetic energy than steel bb because of the weight and how they deform on impact. Your "thick plates of metal" is funny lol, are you trying to shoot at soup cans and call that thick metal??? Steel bb is never powerful enough for most things. Yes they can penetrate soup cans, but they do not have much energy (in joules). Some ballistic math will be nice to open you up...
so because my PX107 by Gamo shoots at 410 FPS I did some calculation which = to 2.8 foot pound of force you said you need 1.5 to penetrate the skin, 2.8 would do more right? XD
So? Penetrate skin = enough to self-defense? I said in the other video already, that is NOT a good choice.(Unless you have NOTHING but that, then what can you do?) But seems like you have more options than picking a 4.5mm bb gun right? Seriously, why pick a bb gun when you can get your hands on something like the Tiberius T8.1 that shoots at 25 joules???? Or maybe a firearm (if not, then a T8.1 is the best best). Don't risk your life man. Penetrate the skin doesn't mean it will put the guy down.
hey dude, read my description before you buy your gun? See this section DO NOT take this video as "how to defend yourself with a BB gun", we are just doing this video to show facts and educate people about what a BB gun can do, plus a fun scenario discussion on "WHAT IF" there is only a BB gun for self defense and no other option. Honestly, for myself, I will choose a blade over a BB gun. You see? I never said this is a good idea, and it is NOT a good idea.
VoidraMusic Seriously, if you can get a Tiberius T8.1, you will look no further for other options. Its really the best air weapon for the job. WITH BREAKER BALLS and pepper balls. It can surely take a guy down too
@@jimmylevoir2195 It will injure, but it won't kill unless you hit the jugular vein and they bleed out. It takes 60+ ft/lbs to cause lethal damage. Even people shot with 9mm and higher caliber have survived.
@@D33Lux I was more thinking towards the neck. I think these guns do have enough power to pierce the skin around that area and cause lethal wounds. But I don't have the proper knowlage for that because I have never shot these, my analysis is just from what the video showed me.
The idea, is valid. In my own mind, using an accurate bb gun and placing many hits into a small area would stop someone in their tracks. The shock factor of just getting hit, would start someone to realize that they are being attacked. This idea would cause someone to deflect the attack on you. Cheers
Well yes, but also one thing to note is, in real life, you don't JUST use the BB gun. If you ever use the BB gun to empty a few mags into the guy and he is not dead yet, he must be somewhat in shock, or incapable of "fighting" because he is in pain and shock, then you can might as well boomerang the gun at him and then go up and beat the shit out of the guy, or apply knife fight up close, which by then, you might be already butchering the guy already.... of course all sorts of consequences of legal issues applies, but we are talking about WHAT IF situation, and what can save your life, not what makes you a legal corpse. LOL I think you get what I mean eh? Thanks for watching too!
Btw, don't forget to check out the pellet gun for self defense vid that just got up recently! Pellet Guns For Self Defense? (Co2 and .177 Caliber Pistols Only) - Long Talk!
As you have pointed out, it is about using shock factor to stop or deflect someone intent on doing you harm. I am sure that 5 or more bb's are going to deflect or stop a frontal attack. Then I can retreat. It is about options!
+chiinnature Hi, I'm about to buy one of these guns and I can not decide which. I like the M1A1 STEYR DT, by having metal slide and power (about 3.3 joules) is impressive. My other option is Umarex XBG with TAC converter kit that does not have much power but should be very funny besides being able to customize it. The point is that if I find a situation where I have to defend myself from a robbery which of the two I would be more useful? I have to pick just one.
Carlos Martinez none. Self defense with a BB gun = you are dead for sure. IF you want to get any air-pistol for self defense, my only pick will be a Tiberius T8.1 loaded with breaker balls, and tuned up to the max power (33 joules) right, thirty three joules, not 3.3 joules. See this video? ruclips.net/video/2scuB3B6HwQ/видео.html
But WHAT IF i have no weapon, no knife, no gun, no stick, no spoon, nothing but at my side i have only a BB gun. Haha. In my country its very very difficult to get a fire weapon and the fucking laws are always on the side of the criminals. I have some weapons, a taser (illegal in my country), a rambo's knife and my fist. All that weapon means direct contact with the aggressor, i think i can shoot some bbs at the face or balls of the aggressor then i can run and put him a kick on the chest like "this is sparta" haha. Mmmm i think i will get a fire weapon.
neither, I personally will stick to the 0.68 cal only, using a tiberius t8.1 with breaekr ball, check out my video on this gun on youtube, tons of crazy power
Whoa, hold up right there my friend, take it from an ex-military guy who served 10 years in the military's special forces before exiting into civilian life... many an individual has died being shot in an arm or leg with a lethal firearm. Yes, I know you said not to make firearm comments however, you're the one who stated a person cannot be killed with a firearm if shot in the arm or leg and I'm here to tell you that is 100% bullshit! OK, great video other than that minor infraction.
on the way home after work. I occasionally get chased by "gangsters" with knives, bats, brass knuckles, or whatever shit they have up their sleeves. but i manage to walk away safely because of my collapsible baton. it's the only legal to carry weapon that i have. so what if i improvise using pvc tube with a barrel and air nozzle/blowgun and connect to a ninja 13ci 3000 psi HPA tank and load steel BBs. could it be effective to throw them away? i can't test coz i currently dont own an hpa tank. it's somewhat like this Mak. sorry for using a different video. How to Make an Airsoft Machine Gun from a Soda Bottle
by the way Mak. i don't carry my air pistol to work coz it will be confiscated when the train station guards discover it. coz here in the phils any kind of thing that looks like a gun isn't legal to carry around even if it is a bb pistol. they will still confiscate it. that's why i came up with an idea of improvising using the concept of high pressure compressed air. i need your advice Mak
Alfonso Javier Using 850psi output to power up a tube for pushing out a BUNCH of steel BBs won't give you a lot of power. I do not see that as a good idea, because it's like a canon more than a gun, and you only got one shot... so... what then if you miss?
i made another version of it just now. 6-inch long pvc pipe with a 7-inch 6mm(diameter) aluminum pipe(barrel) sticking halfway inside the pvc pipe. currently i use a pump to test if it fires well. it works fine and hits hard enough(i let my brother test it on my back). so i was wondering how powerful could it be if i connect a HPA tank to it and set an output of 150-200 psi? in this case i assume i would use a 13 ci ninja tank so it fits well inside my backpack.
Alfonso Javier Seriously, i don't see that is a good idea.. lol... but if you insist, then you can try of course. I don't know what "pump" you used to test, and if that is a bike pump, the psi is WAY low... and you might be not having a good seal too. Can the thing drop you down? If not, don't trust it for self defense.You seen our paintball for self defense video?That stuff with the breaker balls can drop a man down right away, no doubt, even with heavy clothing on. But ya, too bad, you cannot carry that since it look like a gun.... Maybe try a blade?
What you want is baikal drozd blackbird.. i saw a video on YT is crazy..maybe u should do a review on it. It is illegal where I live but it is legal in north america afaik
Yoky Valery I have done it already, but ANY guns that use battery is a no go for self or home defense, batteries gun are not reliable and you don't want that risk of OOPS SHIT NO BATTERY or the battery self drain or something.. no good. blackbird can be a fun gun ,but not really a defense pick
You are very helpful and clear. I'm in Canada on a farm with coyotes, currently can't obtain a "firearm". I believe it's 495fps tops. I have a Sheppard but she is not aggressive by nature. I take a machete but would hope never to get close enough to use it. I don't think the red glass balls will be sold here:(
Good video! I agree with you - you can definitely use a BB gun for self defense. I have my .25 Marauder filled to 3K PSI right next to my bed with two 8 round magazines ready to go. But if I didn't have that, I completely agree just emptying my crosman vigilante .177 (375-400 fps) would make anyone think twice. You're right on that! What about coupling that with one of your knives? And for your place, if someone broke in and saw the Guan Yu blade, I'm pretty sure they would go "fuck this place" and just leave LOL
LOL! Seriously, you know if someone come in my house and wanna rob the place, I always have a big machete beside me that can butcher them right on the spot. I am not gonna go BB shooting with them. LOL The Crosman Vigilante is a good gun, cheap and also shoots hard, with pellets. That's a pellet gun, which is what I will talk about in another video! You are right though, your .25 Cal Marauder can definitely put someone down the ground, and imagine 8 shots all on the guy, it's not fun at all eh. If only talk about airguns, I think my best choice is a PCP gun, not Co2, but that's not what I am talking about in the video though. My PCP guns are always topped up and filled, with spare mags and stuff all stored "properly" and filled up. Did you remember that Tiberius T8.1? That is a good choice too! Big bore!
OH yeah, I forget you're focusing only on 4.5 bb's. If that were still the case, I have an Umarex steel force. Yeah, it's awkward and you have to shake it to reload it. But if you start hitting someone with it, they're going to turn around and run in the opposite direction. Nobody can stand getting hit over and over again! And I feel bad for anyone trying to rob you. The Machette is a pretty horrible weapon and actually is responsible for genocides.
Airgun n00b Hahaha! Well shaking the steel force or steel storm is kinda... weird to do in front of an enemy for sure. LOL! The blackbird is a better choice over the steel force or steel storm, but then, they are all too big and clumsy and you won't wear it on you when you go outside too. LOL True though, even myself won't wanna stand there and be shot, or still move up to the gun to get more steel bbs in the face.. lol..
jakob poulsen LOL! That's a valid point, but also you can hold the Sig Sauer P226 on the muzzle and still can boomerang it to the guy's head like chuck norris! XD
My friend, we have big veins in our arms and legs, if a firearm hits them, and you dont quickly get to hospital, you will for sure die very soon, the bleeding from a big vein is almost unstoppable, except for trained emergencypersonel and alike
i really like your videos your a funny guy you just tell things like it is cause what if you dont have a real firearm there way to expensive and hard to get so i carry a bb gun with me that looks like a glock 19 matter a fact you should do a review on the new 40 x p by umarex its a good gun
+Tyler Gage you totally got my point wrong. You have to listen to what I am saying, because what you said already show that you 100% got my point wrong. I have MANY airguns and they can be even be more expensive than a firearm. It is not about the money dude. Also, a BB gun or a pellet is NEVER a good choice for this purpose. I have said it in the video already, NEVER use this shit for this purpose. It is NOT going to work. DO NOT carry around a bb gun and expect that to work. That was the point of this video man
+Chiinnature but in the long run i kinda see where you coming from now cause people use drugs cause people with real guns get shot and hit with a bullet and they still try to fightvi guess you just have to pray that you dont come incounter with someone with a real gun sorry for bothering you have a nice day
+Tyler Gage It is about shot placements, and even with bullets, if you get shot in the big muscles area and you are on drugs, you can still fight and struggle too. But for most people who are shot by a real gun, the fear and panic will already be super overwhelming. Not many can even move when they are in shock. I have faced many physical threats myself in the past, and I have dealt with it. I do know how it feels facing a person with a firearm in hand, so I know what I am talking about here. IT's not like you are always prepare and armed 24/7, but if you have your hands, and you know martial arts, there is no way you will just give up and surrender. Fight for your life is always my best advice. Be prepared at all time, but don't prepare in a stupid way. Just that the fact is, putting a bb gun in a "prepare" list is just insane stupid - while you have a much better choice around air weapons.
Damn, this guy rocks..he's being real with no sugar coating, no rambling, and no BS. Can't get enough of these vids...
Me and my friend were attacked by kids with co2 bb guns a few years a go. My friend suffered permanent blindness in his right eye and i had to get a bb surgically removed from my throat... People can make fun of bb guns but they can definitely do serious harm.
GOOD JOB! You proved my right and totally knock those comments down (those who look down on bb guns). Yes, and that is a shot or two that you guys took only, imagine a mag of 19 or 18 emptied on you, i doubt it's gonna be fun. Your friend got permanent blindness man, that's really sad. Did you guys sue the kids or something later? But let me tell ya, and you might think this way too - Sue? Use money to sue, and might result in nothing that comes back, and also, it won't bring you the eyes back too. Sad, but that's reality. I feel the pain for you and your friend man. Thanks for watching my vid!
The kids ran off and were never found, i don't think they understood the seriousness of what they were doing until they saw how injured we were. luckily my friend only got shot in one eye, so he is still able to read/write with his other eye.
Kimbo Slice Damn that is a permanent damage man, blind in one eye can cause dizziness, lost of balance and even other shit to happen too. Hope your friend will be fine and not have to have too much suffering later on. I have heard from a friend that he also witnessed a guy shooting another guy in the face with a pellet gun, Walther CP99, and it punched the guy's eyes out forever too. One pellet, one eye is gone SCARY SHIT. Who say it's a toy? BB guns are not toys, you can't just handle it to a baby and let them goof around with it, lol! They must be treated with proper gun safety and such! That's also one point why I make this video too, just so people can know and not underestimate the power of these guns.
couldn't agree with you more mate
Kimbo Slice
Ya, only those who experienced the pain or other shit like that knows the truth. LOL
***** I have a vid up somewhere but I don't remember where it is now. The T8.1 required some tweakings, which is easy to do, and require about 1minute of work. After that, you need special ammo (breaker balls, 6.2g glass round with rubber coating) for the job. You can't use paintballs or reballs for the job, it's not going to work. With the T8.1 stock power, you will hurt someone badly but it won't kill them if you need to kill. With the tweaked T8.1, killing is already one of your option. You can put them down or you can put them to death, it's an "option" there for you.
Why T8.1 work? Because stopping power. Blunt force trauma is what it is called. The power of the T8.1 (muzzle energy) is about 30-33 joules when tweaked. That is like over 10x more energy than a bb gun or Co2 pellet gun. Beside that, because of the breaker ball's weight and size, it will have a lot more momentum and stopping power, which is what "drops" your opponent. It won't "ouch" them anymore, it will make them drop to the round like they forgot their feet. I have a video with a guy using a 5-6 joules setting gun to fire a breaker ball at his friend, the guy dropped like chicken lost its feet instantly and popped down the ground without any ouch. It's insane. That is a 5-6 joules shot only, imagine we are talking about 30 joules....? See this vid: ruclips.net/video/KBhZJACn9Pw/видео.html
If you want I can do some ballistic math here to show you more facts and numbers, but it's very obvious with the math done that the T8.1 can drop and kill, while the 4.5mm or even .22cal won't drop people down.
Chiinnature thats why you need a redfire pellet shooting pistol
***** The J941 goes around 495 to almost 500 FPS on chrono test on a good day. The SW MP goes to 480ish FPS. The steyr is also at 480ish and you can say that is VERY compact, more compact than the MP pistol. XBG and TDP is bulky, and Colt Defender is very much useless with the internal built in mag so you have no way to reload it quick, and fps is around 420ish only. XBG and TDP is a nice cheap option for power at that price range, but not 'small' for sure. They are bulky and fat in hand, where the Steyr M9A1 is totally sleek and just fit your hand like a glove.
bruh the beretta elite v2... it gets jammed really easily and I still cannot get it fixed.
If you use a gas operated pellet gun does it hurt the seals to leave a full or half full CO2 canaster in the gun overnight?
+Varvara Bell - Nope because that gun have bad accuracy and grouping is very shitty, plus the gun is firing at the mid 300 range only, and not even over 400 fps. It's not good enough for sure. You have better choices, why pick a weaker one? You like Makarov? 360 fps with steel bbs is only 1.48 fpe, but a 420 fps is at 2.01 fpe. Big difference man. Takes 2 fpe to kill a duck, and 1.4 fpe is not enough, difference in power there
I've watched all your videos very informative, informational and good knowledge to have thank you for taking the time out to share information that could help possibly save a life...
Thank you so much..😊
I recently rewatched this video. No mention of the Umarex XBG? I found one for $20. Also adding a laser would make the pistol easier to aim in a self defense scenario.
Umarex are my main stay, something as cheap as their XBG (about $30 U.S.) can go through a coconut 🥥. They don’t disappoint.
Trust me a co2 pistol will definitely damage someone even if it was just in the leg it will slow you down and I trust my replica BB gun with my life! FYI I’m in Canada and I’m 14 so guns are definitely not an option also love the vids man!
Smart man stay strong.
Dude you live in canada and you're 15, you don't need no self defense tools.
@@dannymoneywell doesn’t hurt to have it
***** The drozd blackbird is a fun gun only, if you plan to use it for self defense, the deployment method is too slow, plus if you use Co2, it freezes up very fast, and if you use HPA, you need to setup the tank so they can be quickly deployed, which is a hassle on this gun, and then the gun needs battery to operate which is a bad option (because battery can fail or even flicking on a switch is already more work to do under stress). Also it's not compact at all. If you held one in hand yourself, you will know.. it's bulky. Not also forget that a blackbird with high FPS will not have much "stopping power" and so you will be chasing after you opponent and firing steel BBs into him while he kept on OUCH OUCH OUCH and bounce his way out like a bunny. You might end up having some steel bb implanted into his flesh, but it won't kill him or anything and there goes the evidence to sue you later on. Many break in case is the burglar will sue the home owner back because of whatever shit reason. You see someone break into your house, you want something that can drop him down for good. Not that you have to talk about firearms, but a T8.1 definitely will do the job right in terms of AIR WEAPON class. The drozd and blackbird are not my kinda options for sure. Way too much hassle for too little stopping power.
Chiinnature
Hi I was wondering if in this what if situation amongst the guns you mentioned that would make the cut, non blow back, xbg tdp etc. Would the Umarex Makarov non blow back version be an option too? The gun is rated 380 fps, and in warm weather should shoot around 390fps and probably will shoot a little lower as co2 empties, or in cold weather, like 360 fps. I think it can penetrate a soup can. Would this gun make the cut?
For 1. The blowback system just uses more co2 to get the blowback done, so it is using the same fps as non blowback guns.. co2 will just simply run out quicker, if you understand what I mean.. 2. I have a blow back and it is rated 430fps and it is proven with meter at 389fps on a humid day. Aside that good video.
Hi, just a new question. Under the circumstances of a last castle defense bb gun. So a gun that would never be used outside your home for self defense, only indoors in you most inner private space, at ranges maybe max 30 feet. Would the drozd blackbird be a good option? It seems it would to me, considering it's performance, tactical options and compact size. Out side the home it would be just a usual hobby and target shooting gun, but indoors at shorter ranges seems there is lots of potential, flash light, laser, optics, high fps, and a barrage of consistent fire.
wish you covered howmany shots the co2 canister handled before it ran out?
B Walsh i have a daisy powerline 415, co2 cartridge last me about 5-6 clips (full reloads, 21 shots, in this case cause the magazine is in the top) but i leave the cartridge in my gun for 3-4 days. Id look into it because everything is to be considered. Temperature, humidity, etc. Hope this helps you out yo
I wonder if it's legal to do this in your state, but I have an RCF CO2
revolver and modified it. First I modified the hammer spring, giving it a
harder kick. Then I modify the valve, giving it more powerful burst.
And last, I bored the six shells (choose the all brass ones, not the
ones with rubber ends) to fit .25 pellet, and replace the inner barrel
with a .25 caliber rifled barrel. The result is a considerably powerful
CO2 revolver (naturally it used up the CO2 much more quickly than
before, but that's a small price to pay). Using a H&N Grizzly 31gr
.25 pellet, I chronoed it at about 650fps. That's about 43 joule if I
calculate correctly, and at 5-10 meter distance, that would definitely
do a lot more harms than most standard air pistols.
I suspect if I replaced the CO2 system with a small PCP tank (I did something like that with my Crosman 1077 and it worked, nearly doubling its original power), it would get even more powerful, even if not lethal.
Still not an equal replacement for a firearm, I know, but it's still
better than nothing.
Edwin Hendra Kusuma sweet
Edwin Hendra Kusuma Indonesia? Hehehe. I did almost the same to my RCF Makarov. Powerful enough to hit a thief one day. He dropped like durian jatuh. LOL.
y'all better make sure it's legal where y'all are never mind where he at
Could you please explain why the T8.1 is the best option, or make a video on it. Don't you have to modify the T8.1 or is it good to go out of the box stock with 12 gram co2 for the purpose I ask in an air class gun. Your input is much appreciated :)
Varvara Bell the t8.1 produces much more damage on impact due to the mass of the breaker ball your getting around 20 foot pounds energy as to where with bb gun your only getting 6-7 foot pounds energy ive been shot multiple times by both as a testing experiment the bb gun hurts but the breaker balls will drop you on the first shot the breaker ball actually went into my stomach a little
Some good points. Keeping a knife in the left hand in the left hand while shooting with the right can be used if the person still wants to try and attack you after being shot.
My stock is nearly finished, I've put a coat of rubberized paint on. Just waiting for it to dry.
NICE I like rubberized paint, very cool effect!
Ya, if the guy come at you, martial arts will kick in, and a knife is also nice backup too. Whatever works man, who say you can ONLY use the gun in a real life situation? LOL1
Chiinnature Yh too bad it takes 48 hours to dry. It's oil based paint, so it should last.
It's kind of like having a bayonet on a pistol. Lol
Qyuubi786 LOL!! Oil base paint is more durable though, nice touch!
They can be dangerous. If pumped to the maximum recommended 10 times, my daisy powerline 880 can penetrate a millimeter of steel at 10 yards. I'd hate to see what that would do to someone shot with it.
I have a paintball gun with a Snyder MR1 .177 cal. barrel in it what is the most fps can I get out of it please
***** When you watch that video, please note that the guy mixed up the ammo type, the red one is the breaker ball
+Chiinnature I have a squirrel problem. What is the best and most powerful BB/Pellet gun pistol for them. And where can I purchase a laser beam light for it.
What about🤔🤔 the umarex colt commander ¿Would you recomend it? Are they powerful and accurate?
+Benedict Benito - yes the XBG will do the trick, same idea, same concept and design. I said in the video, all the guns in that kind of design will dot he job
Looking for reviews of the XBG was what led me to the MakHobby channel and then to this channel. :)
I was wondering if there were any reliability or durability issues you had with the XBG compared to the pistols you presented in this video. I saw the other XBG videos in your MakHobby channel and I was surprised not to see that pistol in this video.
Benedict Benito
haha, that is because my XBG is beefed up to a carbine now and is not a pistol anymore. I installed that kit and got it to be an SMG now. There are no issues with the XBG so far, with a few very fast shooting and abusive test, no problem at all, shoots like a champ!
Great review! How about between the Steyer and the Jericho which was also your favorite ?
I wonder if there is a bb or pellet gun with a CO2 reservoir.
Hello, for that purpose, which is better? Crosman C31, Crosman Vigilante, Umarex XBG or ASG Steyr m9a1? I want to buy one for fun purpose, plinking etc, but like last resource which is better (for self defense)?
I learn a lot from you about bb guns.
Hello BB gun can use 6mm steel ball ?
+ Chiinnature That's what I suspected, but I thought to ask someone who would know more, thanks. I do like it and it's compact size. Which I thought might put it amongst the choices. Its certainly a nice collectors gun though. What kind of fpe does the Jericho 941 and the Smith & Wesson M&P have? Though I'd like a smaller gun suited for a lady, and I have small hands. I do like the compact ones. I have been thinking on the XBG, TDP and the Colt Defender. Thanks for the reply. I subbed :)
Nice vid..thought you would have used the Jericho 941 though!
Thanks! No because the J941's mag is too heavy and expensive to replace. Cheaper option like this will give you more shots in the long run and also even you drop a few mags on the ground and they broke, it's cheap to replace. LOL!
Hi can you tell me what you think about the dasiy powerline 415 it doesnt load fast but its to go 500 fps what do u think ? it also has 19 shot and very accu.and u get 38 powerful shots then it drops alittle it uses up all the co2 just about at 57 shot total.
The REAL Skull Breakers Rounds VS Coconut and Ballistic Gel - this is the power monster you want if you are looking for "power". A 500fps with 4.5mm bbs is very weak still. LOL! But ya, I don't like the daisy.. it's too ugly and plastic....
Good video bro! I would say Steel Storm or Steel Force for in the home and XBG or Jericho for on the go
locdasmoke haha true, good pick! The only problem is the steel force/storm shaking issues, hahaha!
Yup
Do you have any reviews on the b3 chinese air rifles?
Thanks for the review.
what about Daisy powerline 415 or series ?
I have one. Shoots clean through axe body spray cans. Thats gonna hurt
What holster rig r u using with the S&W m/p 40?
I own a Walther PPS and a HK P30 ( I like the Walther very very much- the design, trigger etc ) but it seems the HK P30 would be the right choice for s.def. incase a BB gun would be the only option ?! thanks for the video...I like your videos...
if all you had was a crosman vigilante or gamo swarm 10 shot for defense, which would you choose?
crosman , because gamo trigger sucks and they are not as accurate
would you say the jericho 941 is better than the guns in this video?
+zanzakable I will not use the J941 because the mag is too heavy and badly balanced with the whole gun. The lighter weight ones are better in this situation.
+Benedict Benito - no, the steel storm is not a pistol, it's an SMG. Also the gun only have 30 shots and then you are on SHAKE SHAKE SHAKE mode, which makes reloading much harder than dump and shove in a mag stick. That's why I don't pick that gun, and it's too clumsy too.
Benedict Benito Welcome! The burst mode also result in less energy too, because a burst mode on the steel storm or steel force will only be around 250 fps with the steel BBs, and that is quite weak too. See the video with my 0.68 cal paintball for self defense? that one is also awesome to watch, and it's definitely something that stop people like a firearm! (when shot on the right spot). Firearm pistols of course can stop someone, if you dump them a mag!
Ah I see. I was thinking the burst mode might have better stopping power. Anyway thanks for taking the time to reply! :)
Such a great video bro 👍👍
Do you think a umarex XBG co2 will be good or like self defence type of stuff
If legal issues are put aside, it is one of the best choice there for the power issue, but honestly, it's not a choice I will personally pick for sure. Plus again, legal issues is something you cannot ignore too. A lot of places have laws that will not allow you to use this kind of methods for SD.
Umarex Steel Storm? It is a bigger pistol but worth the 6 round burst mode.
What do you think about the Co2 MP5K for self defense?
ghostsCODz If only you can upgrade it.
o fps da blackwater 1911 gbb, 4.5 e de + ou - 300 , oque vc accha deste FPS ?
Mata um animal pequeno facilmente.
great video very interesting ..
so a .177 travelling 500+ fps is ok for self defence ? if you hit head? im sure it would be enough to stop an intruder ? with a 21 clip ? thats alot of pain
it does ouch and hurt, but STOP is anothert hing. The guy is not your friend, so his goal is to kill you, and if he can make it to your face and give you a knife cut faster than your trigger finger, you are fucked. While my other choice, a Tiberius T8.1 tuned up to 30 joules, one shot he is DOWN the ground, and not just painful
can you link the gun you showed at 4 minuts
is Pellgun oil needed each time you replace a CO2?
Best used to prevent leaking, also it helps with the rubber connecting the mag to the co2
Im kinda new in this thing.. i just tried makarov with Co2 inside yesterday i dont what type of makarov it is.. he said it was full steel(perhaps he means is full metal), is it meet the criteria ? please give me type recommendation with about 500 fps and up i couldnt find it
m surga savero Yours should be the Baikal Makarov, the real gun converted into 4.5mm steel BB shooter, or shooting lead balls. Not accurate for sure. My friend got one and only liked it for a day for realism, and after shooting a lot, he find that gun is very bad in accuracy, so sold it.... 500fps for a pistol? I don't think there is many guns that will match this in the BB gun category. You like a pistol that is POWERFUL only right? does it HAVE to be BB shooting?
aha i see its baikal makarov.. well it is my first time trying.. i though it was real gun at first so realistic, yes i need powerful pistol to carry around enough to stop robber or thug chasing me while i defense myself.. which one is more powerful for such purpose BB/Pellets ??.. but at least have 10/15m effective range and im thinking of getting Blank gun also, ive been few times almost got robbed when i was riding, he stop me and grope my pocket but glad theres someone passing the street at that night
***** i couldnt find the realistic one.. it has to be realistic at some point, not a weird design gun hehe... by the way what i mean with BB is bb steel
*****
so? not over 500 though. The Jericho 941 can fire around 490 fps on my chronograph too, but you see, 490fps with steel BB is very weak too, if you are talking about self defense power... that's just like a 3-4 joules....
m surga savero Forget about the BB guns for self defense, go with pepper balls. You will be much better off with those. They work , at least...! See my other video? - ruclips.net/video/sjpgGvnjFEA/видео.html
so what pistol do you think is best for self defence? im looking for mac power.
+zanzakable ruclips.net/video/2scuB3B6HwQ/видео.html
+zanzakable and ya, that link i just show you - 28-30 joules when tuned up nicely. A true man stopper
which is better bb or pellet for self defense
Pallet for sure
self defense review the crosman phantom and X-B-G. very good guns for the price
Excellent experiment. Keep it up. Make same type of video pallet gun test .177
swarm more lethal?
You can use lead balls or excite copper coated BBs in BB guns for more power. They weigh as much as standard pellets
Sir, I don't know you... but I love you already!!
Very nice theme of this video ! ;) :)
2017 what would be your recommendation for a non blowback bb/pellet CO2 pistol?
Umarex Glock 19
Guerilla Snorre
@RCHobbyGuy92 This is how you give an honest opinion. Thank you, kind sir ⚡
@RCHobbyGuy92 You're great, I really appreciate you taking the time to chat about this. Enjoy your day, thanks again 🌻
how about glue two of those cheap bb pistol to make single double barreled bb pistol?
Perhape even duel wield couple of double barrel bb pistol makeing for 4 bbs launched with every squeeze of trigger (both right and left hand). I doubt criminal will stand around and be easy target. He wil weave and dodge so hitting face/neck will be hard
I have a 9XP UMAREX..PRECISION WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF IT'S SUFFICE OR NOT HUH
which pistol do u recomend for a 4.5mm bb gun? like which is probably the best
IceWolfPlayZ Baikal Makarov
You might want to recamened the phone book test what it is isshooting in to a phone book and then look and see how many pages the bb or pellet go.
andy m. smith I did the test with my better power guns, because I find that the 4.5mm is useless for the job. LOL! Check this one out --> ruclips.net/video/wDDAa5A8DFs/видео.html
how about wingun 731 is it powerfull to kill someone?
Javier Endrio Yes. If you upgrade it and put some ramset in it.
Chiinnature Will the Umarex XBG work for this concept?
Rajveer Singh YES
hi bro, I've watch some of your videos about airgun and airsoftgun. and yes I live in a country which is nearly impossible to have a firearms for my own.
so could you please suggest me which one is better option for self defense :
-Steyr m9a1 6mm bb 3joule
-KWC Jericho 4.5 mm bb
-Umarex Walther CP88 pellet non blowback
those three models are available for me to buy from a local shop in my area, hope you can help me decide. :)
what country are you living in and what is the gun law?
indonesia, everybody is prohibited for owning fire arms here. but airgun or airsoftgun seems easily obtainable though.
Deardo Herlambang From what I know, Indonesia is also okay with paintball right? Did you look into the Tiberius T8.1 i have shown before? That pistol can generate a freaky and deadly power of 30 joules with breaker balls, cracking coconut and blasting through watermelons. Way better choice than an airgun though
yes, but there is no store selling such marker here in indonesia. even other paintball marker is still pretty hart to get here. I've done my research for 1 month about whoever might sell paintball pistol here, and I got no luck. to buy them online from outside of indonesia is nearly impossible though, they prohibit any kind of gun/airgun/airsoftgun passing through customs by random citizen like me, I cant even order them online, that need somekind of special permission that then again nearly impossible to get. my only chance are bb guns or pellet guns. ps: idont even mind if its pistols or SMG kinda gun :)
Deardo Herlambang
Then from what I can see, your are best with the Jericho 4.5mm with steel bbs, the CP88 is a good gun, but it's not very reliable
Thanks again , I will try to pick up a CP99 now. I picked up a Tippman TiPX and some 16 1/2 mm marbles once I saw your video on using a paint ball pistol for self defense. I know you like the Tiberious better . But I prefer the TiPX. Thanks again Good useful info in this video.
ok say if someone aproched me with a knife in hand i have no real gun and just have a bb gun what do i do stand there or take action?
+Tyler Gage why do you have a bb gun in your hand or on your body at the first stage? and how can you predict the guy doesn't have any firearm on his body as well (could be concealed). He can come at you with a knife, but doesn't mean he don't have a gun in the pants with a IWB hoslter dude. You take a gun out, he freaks out and he point the real gun at you then you are fucked hard. If you don't fucking point a bb gun at him, you can fight with your hands and try your best to get away too. Why even risk the guy pulling a firearm out on you when your bb gun have no power to really drop him down if any shit happens?! That's just stupid to do. IF your gun have the power to drop a man, then it is another story. BB gun is NEVER a good idea
yeah it sounds stupid as fuck sir your right that guy can have a real gun and shoot my ass i dont always take it with me i useally use it for target pratice im not out looking for trouble and the thing is iam a felon i did something really stupid when i was a kid do you suggest mace or lathal force like a bean bag shot gun or pistol or a lathal paint ball gun that shoots breaker balls i wasnt trying to insult you in anyway and yes ive seen your collection of guns and you have a shit load but yeah i feel stupid cause we are not living in a world were people are just packing knifes and stuff like that but like i said i love all of your videos and the 40 x p umrex bb gun i do have does have power even being a blow back cause ive shot through a thick plate of metal and it went through what surpised me but thanks for the input
+Tyler Gage I guess it would be better if you start using commas and full stop for your sentences. You type like a robot and I can barely understand what you are trying to say dude. Do you know that "penetration" is not equal to power? That is a very very very wrong concept you have about ballistics. Lead pellets do not penetrate as good as steel bb, but they can output more kinetic energy than steel bb because of the weight and how they deform on impact. Your "thick plates of metal" is funny lol, are you trying to shoot at soup cans and call that thick metal??? Steel bb is never powerful enough for most things. Yes they can penetrate soup cans, but they do not have much energy (in joules). Some ballistic math will be nice to open you up...
+Chiinnature so what your saying is im a dumbass with no comin sense is that what im getting from you
+Chiinnature cause im trying to get advice from you but your trying to make me sound like im stupid
Nice video! 👍👍
so because my PX107 by Gamo shoots at 410 FPS I did some calculation which = to 2.8 foot pound of force
you said you need 1.5 to penetrate the skin, 2.8 would do more right? XD
So? Penetrate skin = enough to self-defense? I said in the other video already, that is NOT a good choice.(Unless you have NOTHING but that, then what can you do?) But seems like you have more options than picking a 4.5mm bb gun right? Seriously, why pick a bb gun when you can get your hands on something like the Tiberius T8.1 that shoots at 25 joules???? Or maybe a firearm (if not, then a T8.1 is the best best). Don't risk your life man. Penetrate the skin doesn't mean it will put the guy down.
hey dude, read my description before you buy your gun? See this section
DO NOT take this video as "how to defend yourself with a BB gun", we are just doing this video to show facts and educate people about what a BB gun can do, plus a fun scenario discussion on "WHAT IF" there is only a BB gun for self defense and no other option. Honestly, for myself, I will choose a blade over a BB gun.
You see? I never said this is a good idea, and it is NOT a good idea.
ah good point...
VoidraMusic Seriously, if you can get a Tiberius T8.1, you will look no further for other options. Its really the best air weapon for the job. WITH BREAKER BALLS and pepper balls. It can surely take a guy down too
i like the way this guy talk, dude you earn my sub. Plus im getting the Tanfoglio Co2
after 10 -15 in face the guy will run away.
Bruh 15 shots in someone's face with a co2 pistol (with 2.5+ joules) wil kill someone😂
Jimmy Le Voir probably
@@jimmylevoir2195 straight up
@@jimmylevoir2195 It will injure, but it won't kill unless you hit the jugular vein and they bleed out. It takes 60+ ft/lbs to cause lethal damage. Even people shot with 9mm and higher caliber have survived.
@@D33Lux I was more thinking towards the neck. I think these guns do have enough power to pierce the skin around that area and cause lethal wounds. But I don't have the proper knowlage for that because I have never shot these, my analysis is just from what the video showed me.
Seeing your self defense strategy ..... I would have no problem breaking into your place lol
The idea, is valid. In my own mind, using an accurate bb gun and placing many hits into a small area would stop someone in their tracks. The shock factor of just getting hit, would start someone to realize that they are being attacked. This idea would cause someone to deflect the attack on you. Cheers
Well yes, but also one thing to note is, in real life, you don't JUST use the BB gun. If you ever use the BB gun to empty a few mags into the guy and he is not dead yet, he must be somewhat in shock, or incapable of "fighting" because he is in pain and shock, then you can might as well boomerang the gun at him and then go up and beat the shit out of the guy, or apply knife fight up close, which by then, you might be already butchering the guy already.... of course all sorts of consequences of legal issues applies, but we are talking about WHAT IF situation, and what can save your life, not what makes you a legal corpse. LOL I think you get what I mean eh? Thanks for watching too!
Btw, don't forget to check out the pellet gun for self defense vid that just got up recently!
Pellet Guns For Self Defense? (Co2 and .177 Caliber Pistols Only) - Long Talk!
As you have pointed out, it is about using shock factor to stop or deflect someone intent on doing you harm. I am sure that 5 or more bb's are going to deflect or stop a frontal attack. Then I can retreat. It is about options!
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YES! Very true! I think the video have just attracted alike minds here! Nice!!!
+chiinnature Hi, I'm about to buy one of these guns and I can not decide which. I like the M1A1 STEYR DT, by having metal slide and power (about 3.3 joules) is impressive. My other option is Umarex XBG with TAC converter kit that does not have much power but should be very funny besides being able to customize it. The point is that if I find a situation where I have to defend myself from a robbery which of the two I would be more useful? I have to pick just one.
Carlos Martinez none. Self defense with a BB gun = you are dead for sure. IF you want to get any air-pistol for self defense, my only pick will be a Tiberius T8.1 loaded with breaker balls, and tuned up to the max power (33 joules) right, thirty three joules, not 3.3 joules. See this video? ruclips.net/video/2scuB3B6HwQ/видео.html
But WHAT IF i have no weapon, no knife, no gun, no stick, no spoon, nothing but at my side i have only a BB gun. Haha.
In my country its very very difficult to get a fire weapon and the fucking laws are always on the side of the criminals. I have some weapons, a taser (illegal in my country), a rambo's knife and my fist. All that weapon means direct contact with the aggressor, i think i can shoot some bbs at the face or balls of the aggressor then i can run and put him a kick on the chest like "this is sparta" haha. Mmmm i think i will get a fire weapon.
Oh, and thank you, your videos help me too much to learn about bb guns.
a lot to consider, thanks
Glad you liked it!
this or a pellet gun for self defense?
neither, I personally will stick to the 0.68 cal only, using a tiberius t8.1 with breaekr ball, check out my video on this gun on youtube, tons of crazy power
In my house I'd probably only be at around 10 feet max maybe a little bit more
Great vid sir, thankyou
Whoa, hold up right there my friend, take it from an ex-military guy who served 10 years in the military's special forces before exiting into civilian life... many an individual has died being shot in an arm or leg with a lethal firearm. Yes, I know you said not to make firearm comments however, you're the one who stated a person cannot be killed with a firearm if shot in the arm or leg and I'm here to tell you that is 100% bullshit! OK, great video other than that minor infraction.
Bo Hector Thanks for your service, did you serve in the US Army or Marines?
Yeah because of bleed out
I have a crosman AR 15 full auto shoots about 500 fps. 30 round clip , It will do the job.
on the way home after work. I occasionally get chased by "gangsters" with knives, bats, brass knuckles, or whatever shit they have up their sleeves. but i manage to walk away safely because of my collapsible baton. it's the only legal to carry weapon that i have. so what if i improvise using pvc tube with a barrel and air nozzle/blowgun and connect to a ninja 13ci 3000 psi HPA tank and load steel BBs. could it be effective to throw them away? i can't test coz i currently dont own an hpa tank. it's somewhat like this Mak. sorry for using a different video. How to Make an Airsoft Machine Gun from a Soda Bottle
but then, how can you bring that to you on the run????
by the way Mak. i don't carry my air pistol to work coz it will be confiscated when the train station guards discover it. coz here in the phils any kind of thing that looks like a gun isn't legal to carry around even if it is a bb pistol. they will still confiscate it. that's why i came up with an idea of improvising using the concept of high pressure compressed air. i need your advice Mak
Alfonso Javier Using 850psi output to power up a tube for pushing out a BUNCH of steel BBs won't give you a lot of power. I do not see that as a good idea, because it's like a canon more than a gun, and you only got one shot... so... what then if you miss?
i made another version of it just now. 6-inch long pvc pipe with a 7-inch 6mm(diameter) aluminum pipe(barrel) sticking halfway inside the pvc pipe. currently i use a pump to test if it fires well. it works fine and hits hard enough(i let my brother test it on my back). so i was wondering how powerful could it be if i connect a HPA tank to it and set an output of 150-200 psi? in this case i assume i would use a 13 ci ninja tank so it fits well inside my backpack.
Alfonso Javier Seriously, i don't see that is a good idea.. lol... but if you insist, then you can try of course. I don't know what "pump" you used to test, and if that is a bike pump, the psi is WAY low... and you might be not having a good seal too. Can the thing drop you down? If not, don't trust it for self defense.You seen our paintball for self defense video?That stuff with the breaker balls can drop a man down right away, no doubt, even with heavy clothing on. But ya, too bad, you cannot carry that since it look like a gun.... Maybe try a blade?
1:30 did you say you can't kill someone by shooting them in the leg or arm with a real firearm... ? Ummm I'd look more into this if I were you.
Thanks :0) I'll look into the T8.1
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well to make more damage i guess i would use a non-blowback pellet pistol...
+Osiel Medrano I have said it already, but nothing is better than - ruclips.net/video/2scuB3B6HwQ/видео.html
What you want is baikal drozd blackbird.. i saw a video on YT is crazy..maybe u should do a review on it. It is illegal where I live but it is legal in north america afaik
Yoky Valery I have done it already, but ANY guns that use battery is a no go for self or home defense, batteries gun are not reliable and you don't want that risk of OOPS SHIT NO BATTERY or the battery self drain or something.. no good. blackbird can be a fun gun ,but not really a defense pick
What BB-gun would you recommend, which has the best power and accuracy?
I got bersa thunder 9 pro non blowback co2 steel bb it shoot fast , reliable , realistic lookin and it goes inside the skin
Daimn, man. Interesting video. Tru Dat! :)
If the bb can penetrate a glass jar it will go through the skull no problem and thus one clip would be efficient to stop an attacker
You are very helpful and clear. I'm in Canada on a farm with coyotes, currently can't obtain a "firearm". I believe it's 495fps tops. I have a Sheppard but she is not aggressive by nature. I take a machete but would hope never to get close enough to use it. I don't think the red glass balls will be sold here:(
Geri R get a pitbull and some redfire pellets
Geri R when your in the woods like yourself your in nature's nam
Good video! I agree with you - you can definitely use a BB gun for self defense. I have my .25 Marauder filled to 3K PSI right next to my bed with two 8 round magazines ready to go. But if I didn't have that, I completely agree just emptying my crosman vigilante .177 (375-400 fps) would make anyone think twice. You're right on that!
What about coupling that with one of your knives? And for your place, if someone broke in and saw the Guan Yu blade, I'm pretty sure they would go "fuck this place" and just leave LOL
LOL! Seriously, you know if someone come in my house and wanna rob the place, I always have a big machete beside me that can butcher them right on the spot. I am not gonna go BB shooting with them. LOL
The Crosman Vigilante is a good gun, cheap and also shoots hard, with pellets. That's a pellet gun, which is what I will talk about in another video! You are right though, your .25 Cal Marauder can definitely put someone down the ground, and imagine 8 shots all on the guy, it's not fun at all eh.
If only talk about airguns, I think my best choice is a PCP gun, not Co2, but that's not what I am talking about in the video though. My PCP guns are always topped up and filled, with spare mags and stuff all stored "properly" and filled up.
Did you remember that Tiberius T8.1? That is a good choice too! Big bore!
OH yeah, I forget you're focusing only on 4.5 bb's. If that were still the case, I have an Umarex steel force. Yeah, it's awkward and you have to shake it to reload it. But if you start hitting someone with it, they're going to turn around and run in the opposite direction. Nobody can stand getting hit over and over again!
And I feel bad for anyone trying to rob you. The Machette is a pretty horrible weapon and actually is responsible for genocides.
Airgun n00b Hahaha! Well shaking the steel force or steel storm is kinda... weird to do in front of an enemy for sure. LOL! The blackbird is a better choice over the steel force or steel storm, but then, they are all too big and clumsy and you won't wear it on you when you go outside too. LOL
True though, even myself won't wanna stand there and be shot, or still move up to the gun to get more steel bbs in the face.. lol..
If that BB gun ripped threw the glass I’d actually be nervous about being hit with that
You have a butt plate, but... 😂
Great review my friend, thanks!
Use the largest full metal BB gun you can find as it will also double up as a club .
Good one, maybe not the largest, but HEAVIEST. I can think of some already, LOL
YEAH The Dan Wesson 8" Chrome would hit hard
jakob poulsen nope, the Dan Wesson 8" is not heavy at all, compred to the Sig Sauer P226, or Tanfoglio Gold Custom...
its the length there gives it the power..... www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/bats/bat-moi.html peeps from the states most know this ;)
jakob poulsen LOL! That's a valid point, but also you can hold the Sig Sauer P226 on the muzzle and still can boomerang it to the guy's head like chuck norris! XD
very informative video
Good video
My friend, we have big veins in our arms and legs, if a firearm hits them, and you dont quickly get to hospital, you will for sure die very soon, the bleeding from a big vein is almost unstoppable, except for trained emergencypersonel and alike
i really like your videos your a funny guy you just tell things like it is cause what if you dont have a real firearm there way to expensive and hard to get so i carry a bb gun with me that looks like a glock 19 matter a fact you should do a review on the new 40 x p by umarex its a good gun
+Tyler Gage you totally got my point wrong. You have to listen to what I am saying, because what you said already show that you 100% got my point wrong. I have MANY airguns and they can be even be more expensive than a firearm. It is not about the money dude. Also, a BB gun or a pellet is NEVER a good choice for this purpose. I have said it in the video already, NEVER use this shit for this purpose. It is NOT going to work. DO NOT carry around a bb gun and expect that to work. That was the point of this video man
+Chiinnature but in the long run i kinda see where you coming from now cause people use drugs cause people with real guns get shot and hit with a bullet and they still try to fightvi guess you just have to pray that you dont come incounter with someone with a real gun sorry for bothering you have a nice day
+Tyler Gage It is about shot placements, and even with bullets, if you get shot in the big muscles area and you are on drugs, you can still fight and struggle too. But for most people who are shot by a real gun, the fear and panic will already be super overwhelming. Not many can even move when they are in shock. I have faced many physical threats myself in the past, and I have dealt with it. I do know how it feels facing a person with a firearm in hand, so I know what I am talking about here. IT's not like you are always prepare and armed 24/7, but if you have your hands, and you know martial arts, there is no way you will just give up and surrender. Fight for your life is always my best advice. Be prepared at all time, but don't prepare in a stupid way. Just that the fact is, putting a bb gun in a "prepare" list is just insane stupid - while you have a much better choice around air weapons.
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lol wtf is this😭 im dead
Common sense really, but presented quite well. Thanks MJS.