I can understand the sentiment of complaining about the shitty decisions in marvel, but like the whole point in them changing the punishers logo is cause of how the punisher’s mission is about being able to go above the law by punishing criminals and people who deserve it with deadly force, while cops adopting the punisher logo is seen as a bastardization of that message since fundamentally, they aren’t supposed to be the ones that enforces their own justice onto criminals
It was dumb af. Punisher has made it a point not to idolize him in many comics. Anyone with a brain knows that. Marvel was stupid to write him out because of some dumbasses that don’t read comics. Making Frank a bad guy is literally a line he wouldn’t cross. They did it to him in secret empire and they did it to him in his last run. They should’ve ignored the real world bs or just write a comic with him offing the people that idolize him.
@@kakashihatake4698 Most people with common sense know better than to digest politics from a comic, js. Common sense also says to ignore celebrities telling you who to vote for or what to buy because they have no clue what common folk experience. I (and most people I know) won't be taking political messages from a comic book, tho I do love me some comics. Hell, the media can't even be trusted 😂 I agree with you tho, during the comics code era the political messages were forced on us in abundance. Tho some of the messaging was beneficial (don't be bullies, don't do drugs etc) it sure did ruin some storylines in some of my favorite titles 😮💨
Ben’s death always shook me, but not in a way that made me sad, no, that was the first time died, but he kept coming back so many times & dying so many times that I genuinely cannot care anymore.
I am so tired of marvel comics ruining my favorite characters like Spider-Man peter parker and my girl mayday Parker spider girl for garbage storylines that make no sense whatsoever in my opinion which is just dumb and garbage in my opinion.
ya tbh i don't want marvel characters to stay the same i would want them to change and evolve into something else but still have their roots like ya punisher being a samurai and Danny leaving behind the identity of iron fist sucks but i liked this video and i can agree with some of this he says but marvel and marvel writers need to do smarter things with their characters
They Straight up Violated Peter Parker Spider-Man 🕸 😢 its sad because my earliest memories as a kid was seeing Toby Mcguire Spider-Man in theaters and it was amazing but now... It's like they're taking a stomping On my childhood... It's sad When the only good, think about your superhero.Comic is when the superhero is villain 🤦♂️
You completely missed on the Punisher's logo. It's not that cops are bad it's the fact that PUNISHER is bad and police shouldn't idealize him. How do you miss this?
@@IronDeficiencyMan Yet my point was that marvel hates punisher and they especially hate cops. They hate that people like the character (police, military and even fans). I probably could’ve rephrased it better but that was the point I was trying to make. Punisher is an action hero in the same vain as Rambo and others. But yet those characters aren’t problematic but the punisher is?
@@Rantman2017 yes. Those other characters are more bland cause you see them kill people, but at the end of the day, they go back home with their happy ending. Frank is better because he is no hero he is a deranged man who loves violence and the thrill of a fight. He should not be a symbol for the people protecting our country. Also, i personally believe MARVEL just saw a problem and then OVER corrected it by changing the logo and making him a Ninja. That's just not Frank character. He is a flat man who does what he intended to do; kill. Also, how does this say that MARVEL hates cops?
@Rantman2017 bc for now pre omd is the real 616 peter and spiderman is one of the greatest superhero/fictional characters and is one of the big 3 of comics of all time and one of the best written fictional characters and one of the best relatable character of all time even though currently he is garbage
Marvel caving in to real world drama by making Frank a flat out villain and disrespecting everything he stood for will forever infuriate me. He’s made a point in many comics not to idolize him. It’s only the people who don’t read comics that think he’s some shining knight. I live in a small backwoods town and you wouldn’t believe how many police and regular people have the punisher logo, confederate punisher logo, or thin blue line punisher logo decals on their vehicles. Those are the kind of people who know absolutely nothing about the character. I think if anything, marvel should’ve made a comic of him going on a rampage against those characters.
Be the change, take the culture back, by creating something new. Start making brand new franchises, original IPs with original stories and venturous horizons. Start creating your own worlds filled with your own characters, because that is what I am doing, including a handful of others, and you should all too. Walk away from the big two, completely, amd don't look back. I suggest reading some old Image, Valiant, Dark Horse, Top Cow, Wildstorm, Malibu, Aspen, Eclipse, BOOM!, Chaos!, Desperado, Caliber, Comico, Innovation, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, Awesome, Basement, NOW, Beckett, Archie, Avatar, Dynamite, CrossGen, and Zenescope comics. Including the good old Golden Age Pulp Comics and Magazines from the nineteen-twenties to the nineteen-fifties, and all of the best Franco-Belgian, Spanish, Italian, Argentine, and Polish comics, ever written and drawn. Oh, and don't forget to read some old fashioned, super-alpha gigachad Man-ga (manly manga), which many Manime of the nineteen-eighties, nineteen-nineties and early two-thousands are based on. It's not all about the big two, you don't need to rely on them to get your fix, they're not worth it anyway. Plus, there is much more to reading and storytelling than just superheroes. Science fiction, fantasy, horror, romance, action, adventure, war, espionage, crime, mystery, hardboiled, sword & sorcery, sword & planet, and wacky cartoon comedies, all of which are not made nor published under the banner of either the big two. Start reading them, and I guarantee you, you will never want to read Marvel and/or DC, ever again.
@@Rantman2017 That's a very good start. In time, you'll be able to work your way backwards and begin reading the classic Transformers and G.I. Joe comics from the 80s, 90s and 00s. Can't wait for you to read the old Transformers Beast Wars comics, and let us know what you think.😁 Also, I highly recommend the original TMNT run from 1984-2014 by Mirage Studios, and the original Sonic the Hedgehog run by Archie Comics from 1992-2016. Really excited to hear your thoughts on those two as well.👍
Who’s another character that marvel ruined that I forgot to mention?
Ironman omg They violated iron man too They got him in his armor riding A bIke is Because all of his suits is not working smh 🤦♂️
As a massive Ben Riley fan I was so sad to see that they made him into a weird demon thing
Marvel could've had Ben Reilly be into Vamp-Girls or Goths, and I hope they don't do Kaine dirty.
All better choices than furries
Leave Kaine alone at this point
@@no.1spidey-fan182Kaine is into Redheads and besides he’s immune to character derailment
I can understand the sentiment of complaining about the shitty decisions in marvel, but like the whole point in them changing the punishers logo is cause of how the punisher’s mission is about being able to go above the law by punishing criminals and people who deserve it with deadly force, while cops adopting the punisher logo is seen as a bastardization of that message since fundamentally, they aren’t supposed to be the ones that enforces their own justice onto criminals
"if you need someone to idolise, captain america would happily take you guys" rips up thr skull decal
It's a comic, not a message 😂
@@NoleMercy most comics have always been political lol especially punisher
It was dumb af. Punisher has made it a point not to idolize him in many comics. Anyone with a brain knows that. Marvel was stupid to write him out because of some dumbasses that don’t read comics. Making Frank a bad guy is literally a line he wouldn’t cross. They did it to him in secret empire and they did it to him in his last run. They should’ve ignored the real world bs or just write a comic with him offing the people that idolize him.
@@kakashihatake4698 Most people with common sense know better than to digest politics from a comic, js. Common sense also says to ignore celebrities telling you who to vote for or what to buy because they have no clue what common folk experience. I (and most people I know) won't be taking political messages from a comic book, tho I do love me some comics. Hell, the media can't even be trusted 😂 I agree with you tho, during the comics code era the political messages were forced on us in abundance. Tho some of the messaging was beneficial (don't be bullies, don't do drugs etc) it sure did ruin some storylines in some of my favorite titles 😮💨
Ben’s death always shook me, but not in a way that made me sad, no, that was the first time died, but he kept coming back so many times & dying so many times that I genuinely cannot care anymore.
I am so tired of marvel comics ruining my favorite characters like Spider-Man peter parker and my girl mayday Parker spider girl for garbage storylines that make no sense whatsoever in my opinion which is just dumb and garbage in my opinion.
The Punisher stuff was straight up dumb. Like I understand if they don’t want to connect to the police force. But making him a ninja was baffling
@@jakew6162 indeed
ya tbh i don't want marvel characters to stay the same i would want them to change and evolve into something else but still have their roots like ya punisher being a samurai and Danny leaving behind the identity of iron fist sucks but i liked this video and i can agree with some of this he says but marvel and marvel writers need to do smarter things with their characters
This is EASILY a 10/10 RUclips video!
They Straight up Violated Peter Parker Spider-Man 🕸 😢 its sad because my earliest memories as a kid was seeing Toby Mcguire Spider-Man in theaters and it was amazing but now... It's like they're taking a stomping On my childhood... It's sad When the only good, think about your superhero.Comic is when the superhero is villain 🤦♂️
0:15 you killed me with that one hahaha
You completely missed on the Punisher's logo. It's not that cops are bad it's the fact that PUNISHER is bad and police shouldn't idealize him. How do you miss this?
@@IronDeficiencyMan Yet my point was that marvel hates punisher and they especially hate cops. They hate that people like the character (police, military and even fans). I probably could’ve rephrased it better but that was the point I was trying to make. Punisher is an action hero in the same vain as Rambo and others. But yet those characters aren’t problematic but the punisher is?
There was literally already a Punisher comic where he told them NOT to use his logo...they didnt have to change his entire design💀
@@Rantman2017 yes. Those other characters are more bland cause you see them kill people, but at the end of the day, they go back home with their happy ending. Frank is better because he is no hero he is a deranged man who loves violence and the thrill of a fight. He should not be a symbol for the people protecting our country. Also, i personally believe MARVEL just saw a problem and then OVER corrected it by changing the logo and making him a Ninja. That's just not Frank character. He is a flat man who does what he intended to do; kill. Also, how does this say that MARVEL hates cops?
@@no.1spidey-fan182 yeah. MARVEL was being a lil dumb and over corrected
About Nightcrawler, come on! It was just a one joke and man, you are making from it whole drama...
Being an Iron Fist fan is suffering. I'll never forgive Larry Hama for what he did
2:48 No NO NOOOOOO they brought back KAINE!? They're gonna RUIN HIM like his Brothers😭
Don’t worry Kaine is immune to bad writing unlike his brothers
I just hope that one day spiderman will be peak again and marvel to should be peak again
I hope
@Rantman2017 bc for now pre omd is the real 616 peter and spiderman is one of the greatest superhero/fictional characters and is one of the big 3 of comics of all time and one of the best written fictional characters and one of the best relatable character of all time even though currently he is garbage
Marvel caving in to real world drama by making Frank a flat out villain and disrespecting everything he stood for will forever infuriate me. He’s made a point in many comics not to idolize him. It’s only the people who don’t read comics that think he’s some shining knight. I live in a small backwoods town and you wouldn’t believe how many police and regular people have the punisher logo, confederate punisher logo, or thin blue line punisher logo decals on their vehicles. Those are the kind of people who know absolutely nothing about the character. I think if anything, marvel should’ve made a comic of him going on a rampage against those characters.
If I didn't read it, it didn't happen. Scarlet Spider is still alive and the real Peter Parker to me.
Chasm is my number one opp
Cool headquarters
I'm pretty sure marvel don't respect there legacy characters?
Hi I'm Marvel, Hi I'm DC don't buy our comics and merchandise because we don't care about you!
Also .... we like to yiff
That ending🤣🤣🤣
Be the change, take the culture back, by creating something new. Start making brand new franchises, original IPs with original stories and venturous horizons. Start creating your own worlds filled with your own characters, because that is what I am doing, including a handful of others, and you should all too. Walk away from the big two, completely, amd don't look back. I suggest reading some old Image, Valiant, Dark Horse, Top Cow, Wildstorm, Malibu, Aspen, Eclipse, BOOM!, Chaos!, Desperado, Caliber, Comico, Innovation, Dreamwave, Devil's Due, Awesome, Basement, NOW, Beckett, Archie, Avatar, Dynamite, CrossGen, and Zenescope comics. Including the good old Golden Age Pulp Comics and Magazines from the nineteen-twenties to the nineteen-fifties, and all of the best Franco-Belgian, Spanish, Italian, Argentine, and Polish comics, ever written and drawn. Oh, and don't forget to read some old fashioned, super-alpha gigachad Man-ga (manly manga), which many Manime of the nineteen-eighties, nineteen-nineties and early two-thousands are based on. It's not all about the big two, you don't need to rely on them to get your fix, they're not worth it anyway. Plus, there is much more to reading and storytelling than just superheroes. Science fiction, fantasy, horror, romance, action, adventure, war, espionage, crime, mystery, hardboiled, sword & sorcery, sword & planet, and wacky cartoon comedies, all of which are not made nor published under the banner of either the big two. Start reading them, and I guarantee you, you will never want to read Marvel and/or DC, ever again.
The Energon Universe is my go-to comics right now.
@@Rantman2017 That's a very good start. In time, you'll be able to work your way backwards and begin reading the classic Transformers and G.I. Joe comics from the 80s, 90s and 00s. Can't wait for you to read the old Transformers Beast Wars comics, and let us know what you think.😁 Also, I highly recommend the original TMNT run from 1984-2014 by Mirage Studios, and the original Sonic the Hedgehog run by Archie Comics from 1992-2016. Really excited to hear your thoughts on those two as well.👍
I like the new punisher
Bruh you didn’t read the punisher comic and it shows.