I swear this video is the result of all my games suddenly having Seven's in my game and taking all the farm on the map and leaving everyone on the team struggling for souls. Yes you can take all the farm on the map, but you also have to be consious that you're taking farm from your teammates too. And if you're not contributing to team fights then all you're doing is making the game difficult for your teammates. I would argue this video is a bad example for the community. For example, you're showcasing your crazy amount of souls at the end of the game, but your other stats aren't that impressive when you take into account the souls you have. So those souls aren't being efficiently spent when it translates to player damage / kills / assists / generating souls for your other players via player assists / securing kills.
Idk I’ve been running this build and have a near 100% winrate… yes you’re mia until 20 mins but after that you can solo anyone and after 30 mins, you can 1v6 pretty much. The build makes you super fast so you’re untouchable and when you need to leave you pop magic carpet and your invulnerability and just fly straight up. They can’t time it because you can leave the invulnerability anytime with space. I sub in metal skin in some instances when they have a fed haze. Idk works for me. 100k+ damage a game
Then they're just hyperfocusing on the farming and not a good player. The guy even says in the video to make sure you're defending lanes multiple times. And that he didn't farm jungle early cause he was busy defending. Though the point of taking all the farm does stand. But you shouldn't fall behind even if you only farm lane minions. You just won't be ahead.
hero damage does not have a direct correlation to how impactful you are during the game. Farming creeps so hard means you are all over the map applying pressure to all lanes, which forces the enemy team to deal with it or lose walkers, guardians, shrines, etc. Taking all the souls from their side of the map means they will also have less jungle creeps. this game is not about team fighting like League
You have to keep in mind the almost entirety of his damage comes from like 1/6th of the games length. And also hero damage is pretty useless since thirsting for kills instead of jungling at all can easily make you behind on thousands of souls, making you useless at the hard-push patron kill vs patron kill stage.
Shows you don't understand mobas much. He played passive in lane and lost lane, and farmed mid game. Of course someone like haze constantly teamfighting and ulting is going to have more damage. Difference was, with this build strategy, the end game where it actually matters, you're unstoppable.
@@SleepyStreak This is a stupid mindset because you are banking on your team to HARD CARRY you until "the end game where it actually matters" lol. Help your team. Huge ass ult, good poke damage and AN AOE STUN... you could be down 10k souls and still make a HUGE difference in team fights. Dont be a robot and farm jungle like an idiot. YOU dont know mobas and it CLEARLY shows. Please stop.
My man drongo started a deadlock channel!! Who would've thunk? I love your AOE 4 commentary man, and the fact that i found this video randomly means that your charm is working here as well. Keep up the good work!
>dies twice "get ourselves out of this trench" >is still almost 2k souls above the enemy infernus also seven's movespeed scales with spirit making him extra quick at rotating between camps and lanes to let him farm faster
The one thing that always worries me is that by focussing so heavilly on farming The rest of the team has to potentially defend agains all 6 players AND they have hard time farming as jungle is always taken , so I wonder if strats like that while making you individaully stronger can sometimes hurt the team.
@@EGO.BReAKERR I am not convinced this game revolves around single carry heroes. There is so much CC, silence and such If all wealth is on one hero once that hero is dead the rest of the team stands no chance. Can be wrong thou, that is why I am asking.
Yeah, I think it often hurts team: For the most part, jungle should probably be divided amongst key members of the team, used to catch-up behind players, or taken in laning phase by laners. That being said - I do think in lower rated games, the jungles just tend to sit there ripe for the taking, so this is probably an ok guide to follow for 75%+ of players, but thaaat being said, if you climb using this strat you're probably gonna get hardstuck and have a crutch. You'd have to change strats to not sabotage what would have been more coordinated teams, and not lose to more coordinated teams who're actually allocating their resources properly (especially as deadlock matures) I think this "I just farm" strat that a lot of sevens, yamatos, and wraiths use will really fall out of style. If you can safely counter jungle, that's always good thought obviously. In pro we may also see some more "funnel-y" strats come up, who knows.
@@P0GboyFlixzYOU if people play like this the meta will evolve into hunting them well they are farming and picking them off before they get strong it happens in dota 2 if you let anti-mage or ursa or pa or troll free farm jungle you will lose game you gotta hunt them well they are jungling and pick them off so they fall behind and are playing catch up
How to grief every game you play: the guide You do realise that all the farm that you get your teammates dont get ? And the problem with that is that seven is a very bad hero to have a big lead, as he is: 1) easy to kill with 2 heroes unless you heavily invest in health especially if enemy is smart enough to buy debuff remover. 2) has less dpc late game than other "carry" heroes like haze or Vindictra. And im speaking from experience here as i had 3 games already with seven on the enemy team having 20+ k souls more than any hero in the game, dying from 2-3 heroes or just solo mo and krill in some cases and losing the game as his team is underfarmed.
Thats just bad seven players. He does not have less DPS than other carries, and solos most of them unless you stand in a unstoppable haze ult. Funneling farm into a hypercarry is literally the meta in high elo. Talk when you know what you're talking about
@@SleepyStreak what do you consider high elo I wonder ? The featured matches ? Or being top 1% on sites like tracklock ? Well anyway you are just plain wrong, I have over 100 games on seven and a lot of games on other "hypercarries" such as haze or Vindictra, and it is just an objective checkable in training fact that seven can't output damage of the same class as some other carries (of course I'm talking damage from weapon not to be confused with ball and ult) and is much less flexible as a carry. Also by going full "hyper carry" if you want to keep your gun damage relevant you usually need to to completely give up on ult outside of the mid boss building.
@@yamcha107 High elo would be roughly, top 1% or top 500. And if you consider only gun damage when hypercarrying, you're just a bad player. Shiv can hypercarry while building full spirit. So can Yamato, Viscious, etc... if you're not using ball in tandem with gun damage you're trolling. Even Deathy made a response video to this, one of the top deadlock players in the world, and called it good advice and good tips. And he mostly just reviewed the footage to give smaller criticisms on how you could improve the gameplay, like having shorter jungle rotations, pushing at certain times a bit harder before rotating to jungle, etc...
@@SleepyStreak Do you understand the difference between a snowball hero and a hypercarry ? Cause it really looks like you don't. Shiv can't farm with speed anywhere close to sevens, you are not going 20 mins afk farm/lane push leaving no farm to teammates on shiv.
Unfortunately a lot of seven with this play style forget the part were they are supposed to hard carry the team at the end of the day. Plenty with just suck up all the souls on the map, leaving there team with a soul disadvantage. This is particularly rough because I main Lady Gueist and she also need to hyper farm to have an impact on the game. So I'll end up in a spot where I have limited impact and a Hyper farmed Seven that can't get a kill.
the amount of teammates i've watched teleport from either side of the map, farm both elites, run through cathedral to the back of the base, farm jungle creeps. all this while the enemy team is taking midboss, pushing lanes, playing the game. very frustrating, they never come online.
Really cool guide, right to the point! I´ve been playing lightning ball Seven for a while now and the souls difference between you and everyone else is always crazy this way
2:25 how does it set you behind? You are almost 2k souls above your opponent in the lane, yeah you might lose the guardian but you aren't behind This is like any other game, you didn't start with a disadvantage to farm, you just started farming as you normally would Also it's a "strat" that relies on your teammates being able to hold off pushes while you farm and take away team resources, they start getting snowballed you end up in a 1v6
I recently had a seven in my team like this. 70k net worth at end of the game, while others had ~50k(most had less) We lost. Dude was ignoring pretty much everything related to team grouping/defending/ganking (not to mention taking all jungle farm), first half of the game we were doing semi fine and even for some time, but quickly lost control of the map (there was also another “farming haze guy”). Then he came out and still died to enemy team with all his net worth. Farming is important, but decision making on when to and when not to is more important
i had a pocket who was doing a inferior version of this while i was playling lash( where i would sacrifice souls to maximise effectivity on the map ) there are counterpoint i have to this strat : -it generate individual lead , that can be lost easy thus you will only exert your lead when absolutly safe making it less woth -you are a single target IN DEADLOCK even with all the defesnive item in the world you will get down if the enemy team respond -you are monpolizing souls , canabilsing other player acces to it , making them weaker -if your team get bullied and you are splitpuching a single depusher is enought ( a lash , a pocket an haze ect...) someone that just cath the wave . letting the enemy team bus one or two lane - you are giving up tempo and map presence to focus on farm , you are thus surrendering strategic pression -only 1 person in the game can do it , perharps 2 if the enemy team do so , and your team need to play with you , and the enemy team need to ignore you . basicly it a gamble on reaching late game in a state where late game is playable and is higly dependant on teamate that are starved on ressource . it a good strat but it a extreme , that with braincelles , can be countered or mitigated heavily
Yeah, but if there is one thing you should get out of this video, it is RUSH MAGIC CARPET ) Seven clears waves very efficiently from safe distance, i don't even think maxing 1 is necessary, and what he does after that is up to you, thanks to mobility he reaches using this build. I'm having a lot of fun now buying slowing hex+a few 1k items, maxing stun 2nd and ganking/pushing/outpushing all the time as soon as I buy the carpet(about at 15min).
You say anyone with braincells can counter it but funneling souls into one or two hypercarries is a very popular and relevant meta in high elo gameplay.
3:16 "The build I use" = Farm God Seven 4:08 RAID BOSS SEVEN Please just say what build you use/use throughout the match so I know what to do, if you change throughout the match have a cookie, but say so in your RUclips guide.
9:58 when I heard this I immediately groaned because I knew exactly what you were going to say. I don't think giving the enemy an opportunity for 500+ free souls when there's nothing going on in the map is a good idea at all, because it doesn't do anything for your team. I can understand if there's a fight going for some objective, but even then, you still end up losing those souls if someone isn't at the fight, and you aren't any closer to the fight than they are
3 heroes i've seen who seem to be able to do this snowballing effect with massive farming currently. Are Seven, Haze and McGinnis. Seven, like you showed here (better then i ever could). Haze in the way that once built to some extent, she can stay off map rather easily and farm the enemy jungles (though not as effectively as seven or McGinnis), while also popping into the flanks of team fights and getting kill or two only to disappear once again. And well, McGinnis's turrets can basically farm entire waves of creeps or even jungles without her even being there. Place one or two down depending on the jungle level, shoot a bit maybe and then start running to the next one. She her can always easily apply huge pushing pressure to any lane, to the point I've seen her take out a walker by herself in the span of a few seconds.
The survivability point is great not only for the reasons you listed, but if you have a crazy soul lead over the enemy team and you die to them, they get a very large soul bounty for the amount of souls you have as a comeback mechanic. Not dying really is the best thing you can do with hyperfarm Seven
First off gotta say I love seeing you making deadlock content. The game is just so fun. When a game is fun, I know drongo is in the lab cooking up some fun numbers. Lady Geist is strong early and you can farm with her essence bomb just like Seven. Also great for pushing side lines as they will need to send 3 to deal with you. Big fan of seven too. Attempts to lure Don Artie into deadlock have been unsuccessful.
MINI!! My man. So glad to see you're loving Deadlock. It really is so addictive. I'll do my best to convince don to us. Is this the Stan reunification?
@@Your_Deadlock It really is addicting. It’s been a while since I’ve enjoyed a game this much. I think this could be the game that reunites Stan, but we will likely have to wait for Don to beat a former #1 in AoM before he moves on to the next fun game on his list. Having to choose which enjoyable game to play is a nice problem to have. For me though, it’s no question that deadlock is the game of choice when I have free time.
This feels very lineup dependent. I would not want to fight with an Infernus and Haze on my team for farm. But then again, I still do outfarm them. And I will be the AM that comes out of 6-slotted after 40 minutes of farming.
Ivy is super nice for this as well with her Kuzdu. In fact, for the basement farms you can throw a Kudzu bomb in the center and run away entirely without shooting once if you have Kudzu scaled up a bit
This is exactly how I play the game. I came from league as a Kayle main so power farming was my main play style in that game too. Seven stuck out to me as a fun character and I figured out I could farm with my ball and came up with almost the exact build you have here on my own. I've had over 98k souls in a game before (45ish minutes) but I just started using magic carpet and unstoppable. Those items are insane
I don't necessarily agree with split pushing if your ult is ready. If anything you should be looking to blast it in a fight every time its up and then split push the hell out of the map while its on cooldown
The ball can do level ones with just its base form and no levels. Similarly, if you want to min-max super hard and still get the benefit of maxing an ability other than a ball if you want to build for power surge or stun, you can farm level 2 camps with 1 ball, if you pop 2 bursts into them first and have enduring spirit, improved spirit, bullet resist shredder, mystic vuln, duration extender, and suppressor. That costs only 10k souls, which is your 12th slot. So it does take a little bit longer to get it up and running, this provides some flexibility outside of just building ball. Stun or power surge build will help you more midgame, surge also helps clear larger camps that ball doesn't reach. I currently max surge, stun, ult, ball in my build. The extra dps is nice but the movement slow is more useful IMO, and i very rarely use his ult until late game anyways.
I have been a registered ball maxxer for a while now and I have a few tips. Put reach into your build, it's required to 1 ball shot the 2 creep camps in the bottom left and top right of the map, even after the ball radius buff. Reach also pairs very well with all of seven's abilities so it has use outside of farming. Tesla bullets are mid as hell and are honestly not worth the price, even just for farming.
@@evsanger people hype them up since they're considered good for farm, but in reality they don't do much damage, so it's not worth getting it if you already have good tools to farm (like with seven having his 1 and 3, and haze always getting ricochet)
Viscous’s splatter is really good for farming too. It’s pretty much the same thing you do here, use splatter then go to the next camp. You can also use goo ball to kill red camps pretty fast early on.
I think I played a match with a 7, doing a similar route. Once I caught on I just looked at the map to see which jungle he's at. Went back and forth that match, I think we lost but that was 2 weeks ago
aren't you effectively staving your own teammates of their jungle camps by doing this? Next, even in team fights, you can't offer that much aside from playing super far away
Yeah, exactly this is what I thought watching the first 5minutes. In the better MM lobby, you'll deprive farm to other teammates and it will be hard 5v6 if you keep farming lol. Can only do this to noobs. Good enemies can end the game in 20minutes lol
This is how mobas are played. You typically want people on your team that have utility, tank and a bit of damage so they can control the map and you have 1 or 2 cores that just farm hard and join bigger team fights
@@azzzertyy yeah lol if your entire teams economy is in 1 person the other team just buys CC and silence items to shut you down, then the rest of your team is useless and a person who plays like this will 100% blame their team as if their team had any chance
Man you gotta rename the channel DrongoLock. After watching a bit, I was thinking "nice, get a drongo like guy for deadlock content....I guess all aussies sound like this"... Turns out it's you. Here's wishing Deadlock prospers for your sake
When I clicked, I thought the YourOverwatch guys had made a Deadlock channel 😆 Then, I realized that I was wrong! And I’m glad I was. This was so good, man. You deserve more views & more subs, but I’m confident that they’ll come if you keep making videos. I’ll be back for sure. I subbed AND rang the bell! 🔔
My man! Took my 3 watches to finally screenshot the name of your build. I am going to try it out. Any tips for players like me who are absolute ass at laning phase on how to run a discount version of this? Aka what to do if I collect my jungle souls at 12-13 minute mark and I am being pushed away from jungle?
So one thing that this kind of fails to take into account is this works against low-mid tier uncoordinated teams. The issue with the farming to catch back up straight when behind, is that a good coordinated team will be pushing to end the game at 20-25 minutes to prevent the come from behind farming. There isn't much to be done about that, because if you, and your teammates are far enough behind they are able to do that you just lose. But deadlock does have a lot of catch up mechanics that make this possible just harder at higher skill levels.
Can you please explain why would you need Tesla Bullets? Like the whole video you were farming with Ball and sometimes with 3rd skill. Imo there are a lot of 3k souls items to choose from
Infernus can be played similarly, actually. He's second ability melts jungle camps, he is good at split pushing and with ricochet he turns into Farming God and shortly after become unstoppable. I usually have have most souls in my games as Infernus
Are there any diminishing returns on farm items > "combat" items? If you sold your farm items for half value, would it have been more usefull buying a T3/T4 damage earlier?
Become Aladin, dont die. Got it! Great vid, learned a lot! The only thing I find myself asking is what to do when your lane is getting pushed in hard and the sacrifices you make for farming vs staying to protect your lane. Everything mentioned here is golden, but not sure if I can apply some of these tactics during hard pressure.
Mo & krill is another good contender for a god tier farmer I think. I used a build similar to this on him earlier and ended the game with 71k souls at 39 minutes 30k souls up on the entire lobby. Getting your burrow to level 2 asap alongside torment pulse and mystic vulnerability lets you one shot camps just as fast as seven. And if you have basic magazine and monster rounds then you can still clear camps fast enough to get back to lanes to farm because of the passive damage from torment pulse. Level 3 burrow with superior cooldown is where it really shines though
never tought i would see a maxed 1 first :O can allmost achieve same with level 2 (lightning ball) at that point you can kill tier 2 with the abillity + 1 heavy punch. which means at 7.5k you can also do t3 if u got soul shredder
Definetly trying out Magic Carpet in my build now. Soul numbers are stagerring, but still had a few question about your build: 1) is tesla bullets really needed? Bying Improoved spirit results in same dps increase JUST from your 3, not to mention all the other benefits. 2) Is supressor -> mystic slow must have every game? Games I try it myself it doesn't feel that impactfull 3) Enchanter barrier 20 spirit+8% CDR for 1250, bying it every game just for farm, and guessing u tried it also, why decided on not including? 4) Is superior stamina kind of a preference, or in your expirience a must have for survival? Pondering on it myself atm.
I want to add to this that I have found majestic leap to help a lot with navigating the map and bouncing from camp to camp. I would buy this instead of tesla bullets, especially since it got nerfed.
1. No it's not, in fact its arguably terrible on Seven. 2. Yes. Mystic slow is spread by your 3. Teamfights result in everyone on the enemy team receiving the debuff. It's great for split pushing also as it reduces the threat from any potential heroes you face. 3. Enchanter barrier is definitely a worthwhile investment. Will look into timing for it. 4. Superior stamina is a preference for me, but the extra stamina it provides is just too good. If you've got strong presence of mind and can avoid spending your stamina except for emergencies, you could forgo this item.
@@Your_Deadlock Wait am I missing something? You say tesla bullets are terrible on seven but it's in your build? Also I've been running majestic leap early and it has it's pros and cons but definitely going to be trying carpet now.
@@Your_Deadlock 1. I disagree. Tesla bullets gets your procs on mystic vulnerability. That with bullet resist shredder makes it so you never need to use a power surge to clear a large camp or minion wave. Ensures the ability is always up for team fights. Furthermore, mystic slow is also spread by tesla bullets. So its always good to have IMO because just like how you run spirit shredder it makes it so with powersurge your bullets and spirit are both working in tandem. 4. I agree with this. Seven is also a special case since his movement speed scales with his spirit, so there is an argument to not even need stamina items
@@Glacityy Seven's 3 is close to 100% uptime by the time u buy Carpet with this build. I personally even take improved duration+cooldown+some spirit item like Slow Hex, and get to it earlier if needed. Also Tesla has an internal cooldown, about 0.5 sec I guess, so it's way less damage then one might assume
Good night, fellas and WELCOME to Deadlock! Spawning in orange corner iiiiiits Seven. He is in my top 3 best heroes, as Yamato, Kelvin and Mirage... yea there're more than 3 heroes in my top 3 i guess
I like the concept and have personally been ball maxxing since stun nerfs but I disagree with tesla bullets as a buy since it defeats the purpose of maxing the ball early just to spend your first major purchase on a shooting item. You could get rapid recharge/improved spirit or Enchanters barrier/veil walker to double down on your safe and roam oriented playstyle. The upside being that you would be getting far more Spirit power from these items making the ball stronger.
Geist main here. This is extremely similar to how I play Geist. Max out her bomb as fast as possible and dump every item I can into making it better. Combine that with Leech, Spirit Drain, and Alchemical Flask, and while it's not the best offensive build, it farms and defends insanely.
Ive tried this many times but i often die 5 times before i even unlock magic carpet i guess its just a skill issue, also it seems like if i get too far from the camps they go undergroud and my ball wont kill them anymore
just did this with mcginnis yesterday, turret build and your turret clears camps on its own. with the right buys you can have 12 turrets at any time on a 1s cooldown lol
As a representative of the Viscous Goo Ball Maxxers, I think we could have a powerful Ball Maxxer alliance on our hands...
There’s more of us?
@@Koazeeesome say dozens
Souls form balls on our hips. Of course balls mean farming in deadlock
Ball maxers unite!
I love my balls.
I swear this video is the result of all my games suddenly having Seven's in my game and taking all the farm on the map and leaving everyone on the team struggling for souls. Yes you can take all the farm on the map, but you also have to be consious that you're taking farm from your teammates too. And if you're not contributing to team fights then all you're doing is making the game difficult for your teammates. I would argue this video is a bad example for the community. For example, you're showcasing your crazy amount of souls at the end of the game, but your other stats aren't that impressive when you take into account the souls you have. So those souls aren't being efficiently spent when it translates to player damage / kills / assists / generating souls for your other players via player assists / securing kills.
Yeh I lost so many games because of people doimg this build while the enemey team groups and puahes objectives
Idk I’ve been running this build and have a near 100% winrate… yes you’re mia until 20 mins but after that you can solo anyone and after 30 mins, you can 1v6 pretty much. The build makes you super fast so you’re untouchable and when you need to leave you pop magic carpet and your invulnerability and just fly straight up. They can’t time it because you can leave the invulnerability anytime with space. I sub in metal skin in some instances when they have a fed haze. Idk works for me. 100k+ damage a game
Well if that keeps up you’ll get into good lobbies and see how bad it is
Then they're just hyperfocusing on the farming and not a good player. The guy even says in the video to make sure you're defending lanes multiple times. And that he didn't farm jungle early cause he was busy defending.
Though the point of taking all the farm does stand. But you shouldn't fall behind even if you only farm lane minions. You just won't be ahead.
@@SleepyStreak the guy who made the video is not very high mmr. Rlly good content but this is straight up bad advice.
instructions unclear. I died.
Same, need a follow up video.
same had the most dogshit experience with Seven. Never again.
Bro forgot to read the fine print RIP
That little breakdown at the end sold me, this channel will be gold
why yes, i would to see more deadlock content the future. Good video man
68k souls yet less damage than someone at 41k... Collecting all the souls does nothing if you dont use them.
most damage in this game is empty, pocket, haze etc so this stat is kinda irrelevant
hero damage does not have a direct correlation to how impactful you are during the game. Farming creeps so hard means you are all over the map applying pressure to all lanes, which forces the enemy team to deal with it or lose walkers, guardians, shrines, etc. Taking all the souls from their side of the map means they will also have less jungle creeps. this game is not about team fighting like League
You have to keep in mind the almost entirety of his damage comes from like 1/6th of the games length. And also hero damage is pretty useless since thirsting for kills instead of jungling at all can easily make you behind on thousands of souls, making you useless at the hard-push patron kill vs patron kill stage.
Shows you don't understand mobas much. He played passive in lane and lost lane, and farmed mid game. Of course someone like haze constantly teamfighting and ulting is going to have more damage. Difference was, with this build strategy, the end game where it actually matters, you're unstoppable.
@@SleepyStreak This is a stupid mindset because you are banking on your team to HARD CARRY you until "the end game where it actually matters" lol. Help your team. Huge ass ult, good poke damage and AN AOE STUN... you could be down 10k souls and still make a HUGE difference in team fights. Dont be a robot and farm jungle like an idiot. YOU dont know mobas and it CLEARLY shows. Please stop.
Please no more of this, I've had 3 sevens just take all the creeps and have nothing to show for it.
My man drongo started a deadlock channel!! Who would've thunk? I love your AOE 4 commentary man, and the fact that i found this video randomly means that your charm is working here as well. Keep up the good work!
>dies twice
"get ourselves out of this trench"
>is still almost 2k souls above the enemy infernus
also seven's movespeed scales with spirit making him extra quick at rotating between camps and lanes to let him farm faster
The one thing that always worries me is that by focussing so heavilly on farming The rest of the team has to potentially defend agains all 6 players AND they have hard time farming as jungle is always taken , so I wonder if strats like that while making you individaully stronger can sometimes hurt the team.
This your first MOBA? Because that's the entire point of the genre. Team makes space, you get stronger, you end game.
It does, the trade off can be worth it though if the Seven is the raid boss they claim to be. If they are shit then it really is just a gg go next
@@EGO.BReAKERR I am not convinced this game revolves around single carry heroes. There is so much CC, silence and such If all wealth is on one hero once that hero is dead the rest of the team stands no chance. Can be wrong thou, that is why I am asking.
Yeah, I think it often hurts team: For the most part, jungle should probably be divided amongst key members of the team, used to catch-up behind players, or taken in laning phase by laners. That being said - I do think in lower rated games, the jungles just tend to sit there ripe for the taking, so this is probably an ok guide to follow for 75%+ of players, but thaaat being said, if you climb using this strat you're probably gonna get hardstuck and have a crutch. You'd have to change strats to not sabotage what would have been more coordinated teams, and not lose to more coordinated teams who're actually allocating their resources properly (especially as deadlock matures) I think this "I just farm" strat that a lot of sevens, yamatos, and wraiths use will really fall out of style. If you can safely counter jungle, that's always good thought obviously. In pro we may also see some more "funnel-y" strats come up, who knows.
@@P0GboyFlixzYOU if people play like this the meta will evolve into hunting them well they are farming and picking them off before they get strong it happens in dota 2 if you let anti-mage or ursa or pa or troll free farm jungle you will lose game you gotta hunt them well they are jungling and pick them off so they fall behind and are playing catch up
Bruh it's ozzie drongo 😅, I knew I know that voice from AOE4
Instantly thought the same
Man can't even make content undercover for 24 hours without getting called out :(
I was like, wait a minute, haha, I know this voice.
I was about to comment that, but had to hit Crtl+F to make sure if anybody had already realized.
@@Your_Deadlockyou said Drongo at 0:21 of course we are gonna put 1+1 together
NO WAY THIS IS DRONGGOOOO I DIDNT EXPECT THE AOE MASTER AND THIS CHANNEL TO BE THE SAME ONE!!!
the best part was the summary, LONG LIVE DRONGGO!!!
How to grief every game you play: the guide
You do realise that all the farm that you get your teammates dont get ? And the problem with that is that seven is a very bad hero to have a big lead, as he is:
1) easy to kill with 2 heroes unless you heavily invest in health especially if enemy is smart enough to buy debuff remover.
2) has less dpc late game than other "carry" heroes like haze or Vindictra.
And im speaking from experience here as i had 3 games already with seven on the enemy team having 20+ k souls more than any hero in the game, dying from 2-3 heroes or just solo mo and krill in some cases and losing the game as his team is underfarmed.
Thats just bad seven players. He does not have less DPS than other carries, and solos most of them unless you stand in a unstoppable haze ult.
Funneling farm into a hypercarry is literally the meta in high elo. Talk when you know what you're talking about
@@SleepyStreak what do you consider high elo I wonder ? The featured matches ? Or being top 1% on sites like tracklock ? Well anyway you are just plain wrong, I have over 100 games on seven and a lot of games on other "hypercarries" such as haze or Vindictra, and it is just an objective checkable in training fact that seven can't output damage of the same class as some other carries (of course I'm talking damage from weapon not to be confused with ball and ult) and is much less flexible as a carry. Also by going full "hyper carry" if you want to keep your gun damage relevant you usually need to to completely give up on ult outside of the mid boss building.
@@yamcha107 High elo would be roughly, top 1% or top 500. And if you consider only gun damage when hypercarrying, you're just a bad player. Shiv can hypercarry while building full spirit. So can Yamato, Viscious, etc... if you're not using ball in tandem with gun damage you're trolling.
Even Deathy made a response video to this, one of the top deadlock players in the world, and called it good advice and good tips. And he mostly just reviewed the footage to give smaller criticisms on how you could improve the gameplay, like having shorter jungle rotations, pushing at certain times a bit harder before rotating to jungle, etc...
@@SleepyStreak Do you understand the difference between a snowball hero and a hypercarry ? Cause it really looks like you don't. Shiv can't farm with speed anywhere close to sevens, you are not going 20 mins afk farm/lane push leaving no farm to teammates on shiv.
Unfortunately a lot of seven with this play style forget the part were they are supposed to hard carry the team at the end of the day. Plenty with just suck up all the souls on the map, leaving there team with a soul disadvantage. This is particularly rough because I main Lady Gueist and she also need to hyper farm to have an impact on the game. So I'll end up in a spot where I have limited impact and a Hyper farmed Seven that can't get a kill.
I agree. Doesn’t matter how many souls you have unless you’re actually in the team fights
the amount of teammates i've watched teleport from either side of the map, farm both elites, run through cathedral to the back of the base, farm jungle creeps. all this while the enemy team is taking midboss, pushing lanes, playing the game. very frustrating, they never come online.
Really cool guide, right to the point! I´ve been playing lightning ball Seven for a while now and the souls difference between you and everyone else is always crazy this way
2:25 how does it set you behind? You are almost 2k souls above your opponent in the lane, yeah you might lose the guardian but you aren't behind
This is like any other game, you didn't start with a disadvantage to farm, you just started farming as you normally would
Also it's a "strat" that relies on your teammates being able to hold off pushes while you farm and take away team resources, they start getting snowballed you end up in a 1v6
I recently had a seven in my team like this. 70k net worth at end of the game, while others had ~50k(most had less)
We lost. Dude was ignoring pretty much everything related to team grouping/defending/ganking (not to mention taking all jungle farm), first half of the game we were doing semi fine and even for some time, but quickly lost control of the map (there was also another “farming haze guy”). Then he came out and still died to enemy team with all his net worth.
Farming is important, but decision making on when to and when not to is more important
Okay genuinely super good guide, very in depth, and you explain WHY you do what you do. Thanks!
i had a pocket who was doing a inferior version of this while i was playling lash( where i would sacrifice souls to maximise effectivity on the map )
there are counterpoint i have to this strat :
-it generate individual lead , that can be lost easy thus you will only exert your lead when absolutly safe making it less woth
-you are a single target IN DEADLOCK even with all the defesnive item in the world you will get down if the enemy team respond
-you are monpolizing souls , canabilsing other player acces to it , making them weaker
-if your team get bullied and you are splitpuching a single depusher is enought ( a lash , a pocket an haze ect...) someone that just cath the wave . letting the enemy team bus one or two lane
- you are giving up tempo and map presence to focus on farm , you are thus surrendering strategic pression
-only 1 person in the game can do it , perharps 2 if the enemy team do so , and your team need to play with you , and the enemy team need to ignore you .
basicly it a gamble on reaching late game in a state where late game is playable and is higly dependant on teamate that are starved on ressource .
it a good strat but it a extreme , that with braincelles , can be countered or mitigated heavily
Yeah, but if there is one thing you should get out of this video, it is RUSH MAGIC CARPET )
Seven clears waves very efficiently from safe distance, i don't even think maxing 1 is necessary, and what he does after that is up to you, thanks to mobility he reaches using this build.
I'm having a lot of fun now buying slowing hex+a few 1k items, maxing stun 2nd and ganking/pushing/outpushing all the time as soon as I buy the carpet(about at 15min).
@@sujetgoogol8477 yhea magic carpet enable extremly mobile mid game which is very scary
You say anyone with braincells can counter it but funneling souls into one or two hypercarries is a very popular and relevant meta in high elo gameplay.
OZZIE DRONGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! Keep it up bro, much love!
I really dig the well scripted, chill voice over with constantly relevant background footage. Great video
3:16 "The build I use" = Farm God Seven
4:08 RAID BOSS SEVEN
Please just say what build you use/use throughout the match so I know what to do, if you change throughout the match have a cookie, but say so in your RUclips guide.
Farm God Seven is just the first line of his Raid Boss Seven build. They are literally the same thing.
9:58 when I heard this I immediately groaned because I knew exactly what you were going to say. I don't think giving the enemy an opportunity for 500+ free souls when there's nothing going on in the map is a good idea at all, because it doesn't do anything for your team. I can understand if there's a fight going for some objective, but even then, you still end up losing those souls if someone isn't at the fight, and you aren't any closer to the fight than they are
3 heroes i've seen who seem to be able to do this snowballing effect with massive farming currently. Are Seven, Haze and McGinnis.
Seven, like you showed here (better then i ever could).
Haze in the way that once built to some extent, she can stay off map rather easily and farm the enemy jungles (though not as effectively as seven or McGinnis), while also popping into the flanks of team fights and getting kill or two only to disappear once again.
And well, McGinnis's turrets can basically farm entire waves of creeps or even jungles without her even being there. Place one or two down depending on the jungle level, shoot a bit maybe and then start running to the next one. She her can always easily apply huge pushing pressure to any lane, to the point I've seen her take out a walker by herself in the span of a few seconds.
the quality of this video and the narration is top tier. you got a sub.
Yo its Drongo! Found you on BAR btw, have another sub :D
From learning Fast castle builds to learning farming trips, I'm happy to learn! Grats on the third btw!
Yessss love me some drongo content. Got hooked on the Beyond All Reason videos way back when.
These are the type of players not in the lanes while guardians and walkers get taken out by minions... Great work dude
3 max skipping tesla bullets can hit the same benchmarks, If the enemy decides to hunt you is the main limiting factor on income not build order.
Actual quality video +1
magic carpet is such an underrated item its like having an on-demand mini ivy ult
Oh hey Drongo, thought you were still in the AoE series. Man this game is bringing everyone together. It's crazy
Are we not gonna talk about the absolutely CRISPY movement at 9:19?
good, but not insane, its not even walljumping
just superior stamina+seven's movespeed scaled by spirit
Definitely enjoyed the in depth timing and build to go with it. Great work!
The survivability point is great not only for the reasons you listed, but if you have a crazy soul lead over the enemy team and you die to them, they get a very large soul bounty for the amount of souls you have as a comeback mechanic. Not dying really is the best thing you can do with hyperfarm Seven
First off gotta say I love seeing you making deadlock content. The game is just so fun. When a game is fun, I know drongo is in the lab cooking up some fun numbers.
Lady Geist is strong early and you can farm with her essence bomb just like Seven. Also great for pushing side lines as they will need to send 3 to deal with you. Big fan of seven too. Attempts to lure Don Artie into deadlock have been unsuccessful.
MINI!! My man. So glad to see you're loving Deadlock. It really is so addictive. I'll do my best to convince don to us. Is this the Stan reunification?
@@Your_Deadlock It really is addicting. It’s been a while since I’ve enjoyed a game this much. I think this could be the game that reunites Stan, but we will likely have to wait for Don to beat a former #1 in AoM before he moves on to the next fun game on his list. Having to choose which enjoyable game to play is a nice problem to have. For me though, it’s no question that deadlock is the game of choice when I have free time.
alot of these tips can be translated to alot of heros with DoT abilities honestly. i like it
fantastic video and narration. I hope your channel blows up. Gave a like and subscribe
Much appreciated!
Drongo! You checky man! From AOE to Deadlock I see huh? :D WP
This feels very lineup dependent. I would not want to fight with an Infernus and Haze on my team for farm. But then again, I still do outfarm them. And I will be the AM that comes out of 6-slotted after 40 minutes of farming.
12:50 if not for my own reference, this is his build
Is it cause that says raid boss 3 max farming? And i dont see magic carpet there either.
Is it cause that says raid boss 3 max farming?
@@InnerMedium oh well it's A build anyway, maybe not his lol
Ivy is super nice for this as well with her Kuzdu. In fact, for the basement farms you can throw a Kudzu bomb in the center and run away entirely without shooting once if you have Kudzu scaled up a bit
This is exactly how I play the game. I came from league as a Kayle main so power farming was my main play style in that game too. Seven stuck out to me as a fun character and I figured out I could farm with my ball and came up with almost the exact build you have here on my own. I've had over 98k souls in a game before (45ish minutes) but I just started using magic carpet and unstoppable. Those items are insane
Clicked this video unexpectedly... whos that voice.. AUSSIEE DRONGOOO MY BOYY
This video hit low mmr seven players like crack hit the streets in the 80's
Sounds like this would work for McGinnis as well. Max turrets and cooldown reduction, drop turrets on camps with a heal for bigger ones
new aussie drongo channel?? aoe legend expanding love to see it
Do you by chance also do Age of Empires 4 and Age of Mythology casting? Good job at all 3 games.
Thank you so much for this Oracle II rank guide, my girlfriends boyfriend is Eternus and he said I should follow this ❤️
Awesome video, very informative!
Nice guide! Expected nothing less coming from you, always loved your ability to explain stuff in AoE 😀
Good quality vid, keep it up man
I don't necessarily agree with split pushing if your ult is ready.
If anything you should be looking to blast it in a fight every time its up and then split push the hell out of the map while its on cooldown
The ball can do level ones with just its base form and no levels. Similarly, if you want to min-max super hard and still get the benefit of maxing an ability other than a ball if you want to build for power surge or stun, you can farm level 2 camps with 1 ball, if you pop 2 bursts into them first and have enduring spirit, improved spirit, bullet resist shredder, mystic vuln, duration extender, and suppressor. That costs only 10k souls, which is your 12th slot. So it does take a little bit longer to get it up and running, this provides some flexibility outside of just building ball. Stun or power surge build will help you more midgame, surge also helps clear larger camps that ball doesn't reach.
I currently max surge, stun, ult, ball in my build. The extra dps is nice but the movement slow is more useful IMO, and i very rarely use his ult until late game anyways.
I have been a registered ball maxxer for a while now and I have a few tips. Put reach into your build, it's required to 1 ball shot the 2 creep camps in the bottom left and top right of the map, even after the ball radius buff. Reach also pairs very well with all of seven's abilities so it has use outside of farming. Tesla bullets are mid as hell and are honestly not worth the price, even just for farming.
Why are Tesla bullets mid? People seem to really hype them up. I feel like they're a little redundant when you aren't using your gun on camps
@@evsanger It's probably quite redundant when Seven's 3 already does what Tesla bullets does, just way better
@@evsanger people hype them up since they're considered good for farm, but in reality they don't do much damage, so it's not worth getting it if you already have good tools to farm (like with seven having his 1 and 3, and haze always getting ricochet)
@@evsanger i think one of the biggest things tesla bullets is good for is procing spirit damage items on your gun, but seven already does that
So good man, hope you upload more in the future. Subscribed and liked 👍
Not expected to hear drongo's voice in a deadlock video.
Viscous’s splatter is really good for farming too. It’s pretty much the same thing you do here, use splatter then go to the next camp. You can also use goo ball to kill red camps pretty fast early on.
This is like, a 700 elo lobby at best.
This is a great strat for those who want to stay hardstuck.
I think I played a match with a 7, doing a similar route. Once I caught on I just looked at the map to see which jungle he's at. Went back and forth that match, I think we lost but that was 2 weeks ago
I been using your build but skip using Magic Carpet since I didn't know what the use was. Now I understand I'll grab it now.
aren't you effectively staving your own teammates of their jungle camps by doing this? Next, even in team fights, you can't offer that much aside from playing super far away
Yeah, exactly this is what I thought watching the first 5minutes. In the better MM lobby, you'll deprive farm to other teammates and it will be hard 5v6 if you keep farming lol. Can only do this to noobs. Good enemies can end the game in 20minutes lol
This is how mobas are played. You typically want people on your team that have utility, tank and a bit of damage so they can control the map and you have 1 or 2 cores that just farm hard and join bigger team fights
@@Lockxta not deadlock
@@azzzertyy yeah lol if your entire teams economy is in 1 person the other team just buys CC and silence items to shut you down, then the rest of your team is useless
and a person who plays like this will 100% blame their team as if their team had any chance
the people in this thread have clearly never played a moba, you dont have any team mates in a moba, just dead weight you have to carry
Man you gotta rename the channel DrongoLock.
After watching a bit, I was thinking "nice, get a drongo like guy for deadlock content....I guess all aussies sound like this"... Turns out it's you. Here's wishing Deadlock prospers for your sake
When I clicked, I thought the YourOverwatch guys had made a Deadlock channel 😆
Then, I realized that I was wrong! And I’m glad I was. This was so good, man. You deserve more views & more subs, but I’m confident that they’ll come if you keep making videos.
I’ll be back for sure. I subbed AND rang the bell! 🔔
I WISH freedo would leave that horrid game and make deadlock.
@@josephreynolds2401 I think he’ll see the light eventually, but I wonder if it’ll be too late by then 😔
Excellent video, I look forward to the rest of your content 👍
My man! Took my 3 watches to finally screenshot the name of your build. I am going to try it out.
Any tips for players like me who are absolute ass at laning phase on how to run a discount version of this? Aka what to do if I collect my jungle souls at 12-13 minute mark and I am being pushed away from jungle?
So one thing that this kind of fails to take into account is this works against low-mid tier uncoordinated teams. The issue with the farming to catch back up straight when behind, is that a good coordinated team will be pushing to end the game at 20-25 minutes to prevent the come from behind farming. There isn't much to be done about that, because if you, and your teammates are far enough behind they are able to do that you just lose.
But deadlock does have a lot of catch up mechanics that make this possible just harder at higher skill levels.
really good video, very well put together
Viscous mains: This is a complicated way of just saying Ball Maxxing
wait... Drongo?!? IS THAT YOU??
Bryan Johnson would love this video so much
I began with playing pocket but after one game of seven using this build i think I am in love. This is my new pick from now on lol
Can you please explain why would you need Tesla Bullets? Like the whole video you were farming with Ball and sometimes with 3rd skill. Imo there are a lot of 3k souls items to choose from
Infernus can be played similarly, actually. He's second ability melts jungle camps, he is good at split pushing and with ricochet he turns into Farming God and shortly after become unstoppable. I usually have have most souls in my games as Infernus
Yeah, there's a few heroes that can do this. Ivy is another one.
Are there any diminishing returns on farm items > "combat" items?
If you sold your farm items for half value, would it have been more usefull buying a T3/T4 damage earlier?
I recognise that voice.
been watching you since age of empires 3 content.
good to see you making deadlock content.
As a Seven main, thanks for making this video! Very in depth and well explained! Even after all his nerfs Seven remains strong!
Become Aladin, dont die. Got it! Great vid, learned a lot!
The only thing I find myself asking is what to do when your lane is getting pushed in hard and the sacrifices you make for farming vs staying to protect your lane. Everything mentioned here is golden, but not sure if I can apply some of these tactics during hard pressure.
I shoot lighting at ground when running away to block and with increased range it becomes big balls
Very informative and well made video, thank you.
you just earned a sub! great video sir!
Mo & krill is another good contender for a god tier farmer I think. I used a build similar to this on him earlier and ended the game with 71k souls at 39 minutes 30k souls up on the entire lobby. Getting your burrow to level 2 asap alongside torment pulse and mystic vulnerability lets you one shot camps just as fast as seven. And if you have basic magazine and monster rounds then you can still clear camps fast enough to get back to lanes to farm because of the passive damage from torment pulse. Level 3 burrow with superior cooldown is where it really shines though
Loved this man, I've been trying to make a farming Haze / Wraith, who knew Seven was the tech all along.
This might also work with McGuiniss
i like the dont die concept the most and the magic carpet but i think you can skip some items to enter the teamfight fase faster
never tought i would see a maxed 1 first :O
can allmost achieve same with level 2 (lightning ball) at that point you can kill tier 2 with the abillity + 1 heavy punch.
which means at 7.5k you can also do t3 if u got soul shredder
Definetly trying out Magic Carpet in my build now. Soul numbers are stagerring, but still had a few question about your build:
1) is tesla bullets really needed? Bying Improoved spirit results in same dps increase JUST from your 3, not to mention all the other benefits.
2) Is supressor -> mystic slow must have every game? Games I try it myself it doesn't feel that impactfull
3) Enchanter barrier 20 spirit+8% CDR for 1250, bying it every game just for farm, and guessing u tried it also, why decided on not including?
4) Is superior stamina kind of a preference, or in your expirience a must have for survival? Pondering on it myself atm.
I want to add to this that I have found majestic leap to help a lot with navigating the map and bouncing from camp to camp. I would buy this instead of tesla bullets, especially since it got nerfed.
1. No it's not, in fact its arguably terrible on Seven.
2. Yes. Mystic slow is spread by your 3. Teamfights result in everyone on the enemy team receiving the debuff. It's great for split pushing also as it reduces the threat from any potential heroes you face.
3. Enchanter barrier is definitely a worthwhile investment. Will look into timing for it.
4. Superior stamina is a preference for me, but the extra stamina it provides is just too good. If you've got strong presence of mind and can avoid spending your stamina except for emergencies, you could forgo this item.
@@Your_Deadlock Wait am I missing something? You say tesla bullets are terrible on seven but it's in your build? Also I've been running majestic leap early and it has it's pros and cons but definitely going to be trying carpet now.
@@Your_Deadlock 1. I disagree. Tesla bullets gets your procs on mystic vulnerability. That with bullet resist shredder makes it so you never need to use a power surge to clear a large camp or minion wave. Ensures the ability is always up for team fights. Furthermore, mystic slow is also spread by tesla bullets. So its always good to have IMO because just like how you run spirit shredder it makes it so with powersurge your bullets and spirit are both working in tandem.
4. I agree with this. Seven is also a special case since his movement speed scales with his spirit, so there is an argument to not even need stamina items
@@Glacityy Seven's 3 is close to 100% uptime by the time u buy Carpet with this build. I personally even take improved duration+cooldown+some spirit item like Slow Hex, and get to it earlier if needed. Also Tesla has an internal cooldown, about 0.5 sec I guess, so it's way less damage then one might assume
Btw... Alt+1/2/3/4 levels up that ability, saves precious seconds.
Good night, fellas and WELCOME to Deadlock! Spawning in orange corner iiiiiits Seven. He is in my top 3 best heroes, as Yamato, Kelvin and Mirage... yea there're more than 3 heroes in my top 3 i guess
I like the concept and have personally been ball maxxing since stun nerfs but I disagree with tesla bullets as a buy since it defeats the purpose of maxing the ball early just to spend your first major purchase on a shooting item.
You could get rapid recharge/improved spirit or Enchanters barrier/veil walker to double down on your safe and roam oriented playstyle. The upside being that you would be getting far more Spirit power from these items making the ball stronger.
Geist main here. This is extremely similar to how I play Geist. Max out her bomb as fast as possible and dump every item I can into making it better. Combine that with Leech, Spirit Drain, and Alchemical Flask, and while it's not the best offensive build, it farms and defends insanely.
Ive tried this many times but i often die 5 times before i even unlock magic carpet i guess its just a skill issue, also it seems like if i get too far from the camps they go undergroud and my ball wont kill them anymore
What do you when your team mates try to do the same thing
Uhm is there a picture for the full build?
your build in game doesnt have tesla bullets, not needed anymore?
Aussie Drongo jumpscare i was not ready for this voice and it not be "Welcome to a casted game" LOOOL
just did this with mcginnis yesterday, turret build and your turret clears camps on its own. with the right buys you can have 12 turrets at any time on a 1s cooldown lol
Seven is by far my favorite character. So fun to steamroll with him
Cool! What's your specific build?
I have no idea why but this build works so much better for me than the new one.