To be fair, so are gish, pisces iscariot, zero and maybe machina... but aside from those it's really hit or miss because it's more like "made for every individual to interpret" rather than "a genre"... that and made mostly for Billy and Billy's wishes and Billy's reasons, not the fans.
@@gworsham32290 I mean I'd say that, but I think Kurt, Chris, and Layne would all disagree lol. They made it for themselves but it "became" about the fans, where as Billy always kind of went his own way.
Machina is to Smashing Pumpkins as Hail to the Thief is to Radiohead for me. Both came after big departures, returning to their roots while also stil experimenting. Both albums are also too long :P
Yeah even without the 2nd part, going up to an artist and saying "Hey we like the most popular thing you did 30 years ago" IS nice but also kind of bittersweet to hear, because they're done so much work since then, and they're still an artist now, and quite a different one from 30 years ago. If you can also find a way to say something more general, or something about their current work, that can be nice to hear. Speaking from experience!
pumpkins music has a habit of reminding you of a particular point in life than feels more real than normal, and you never get that feeling back from when you first heard it. I'm just happy they keep making music, the new album is amazing.
Your thoughts on that are incredibly truthful. At some point in our lives, usually when younger, the music at That Time, affects You deeply. For me, that was Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, and even particular songs like Drown, from the Singles soundtrack. I absolutely Love all of Billy's music, and it feels like it connects with my very Soul, on a subatomic level, but certain albums were There for me, when i went through so many hard changes and transitions in life, particularly as a teenager. And like you said, it brings back deep feelings and memories 🧡 Today is the greatest. Tomorrow will always be infinite sadness.
@@MistahMatzah No worries. I remember Lou Reed once saying something like "Man, don't ask me what you should listen to. Listen to whatever music YOU like." It's a big world and we're all adjusted to different wavelengths and frequencies and it would be pretty boring if everyone liked the same thing.
Mellon Collie and Adore were both amazing - Billy just continued to evolve his musical style and vision after those albums. I personally prefer the Early smashing pumpkins music, but honestly, a lot of that simply depends on what age you were growing up, when the various albums came out, and How deeply it affected You, at that time. All of Billy's music changed my life and connected with me on the deepest subatomic level, and i sincerely Thank him, and always will.
Adore sucks. It's literally the death of the real sound of the Pumpkins. For what? Some forced electronic angle? Why do that? It added nothing, but it was clear what's missing from that album, a sense of Pumkin Magic, it's literally bleached away by the new angle. That's what happens when you force an angle to sound fresh. It's FORCED, thus faux.
@@caiusmadison2996I think the lack of Pumpkin magic is what makes the record. It’s a great record of change and heartbreak, that encounters a large amount of different circumstances for a human to experience, at least especially when a human gets what they want and tragedy follows. The album lives for a reason, and the following recording exposes itself as a direct contrast to Adore, so I pray it is far better an experience for you than Adore.❤
You nailed it with the "age you were at the time" thing. I was fortunate to have been in my early teens when Gish came out. Was introduced to me at 12 or 13 years old and it only got better.
@@caiusmadison2996me not being a SP fan, I compared the older albums to the newer ones. They both sound great in their own way. Both have their share of filler songs and songs that were a hit. The only guess that I can give to you is that you are clinging to nostalgia. Billy is old as hell, he's not going back to the "og" pumpkins sound anytime soon
The old stuff was just epic.. it was also made while you were young and young people feel and experience the world differently.. so we all miss that and the 90s sound also is nostalgic and brings back memories. Times change, musicians change, music changes.. and it's very hard to gain credibility when you "progress" since music is mostly about being genuine and often people just make it a profession. A job.. or art . I'd argue that music isn't primarily even art - it's portraying experiences and emotions in a credible original way. The experiences and feelings of older people usually tend to be less exciting and interesting.
People want to critique more than they want to enjoy. It’s more difficult (more pure) to find joy in something than it is to find issues in something. It takes a lot to learn to just enjoy most things for what they are 🤷
criticism is aimed at the truth, but letting Billy know u don’t like it, pointless, what’s he going to say? he wrote a tune he wrote based on his own mission in music. I think it’s stupid to whine about people being straight up if you are going to luxuriate in praise, if u are going to be constantly promoting yourself. he may be an incredible guitarist & vocalist, makes no difference to me, because he seems like a snob, I don’t see music as a competition. When smashing pumpkins first came out, seemed like new new flower children, kids like everyone in the audience. Billy recorded a lot of the album because they preferred his ability. To me it’s not really a band. It’s a guy with people he lords over. No interest. ZERO is retarded, his motivation for shaving his head is also lame. it’s a fu. Well u look stoooopid.
People always feel the need to talk about how they don’t like newer things. Some things in life don’t get better, you fr just have to enjoy what you had.
I love the Stones, Pink Floyd, The Dead, Allman Brothers and many bands that played a long time but every honest fan will tell you that the latter half of the career is always a creative wasteland even though the performance part is still impressive. The 2nd half of the rock band career relies a lot on nostalgia so it doesn't really matter that the creative part isn't there, as long as you play "the hit(s)" they'll sit thru the new stuff.
@@vladaI 100% read “the dead Allman brothers” and I was very concerned that either A. They were dead and still making music, or B. The two grouped up and made an album I missed 😂😂
@@vladai was at a Lordi Show last year and the singer said: „we will play some old sh*t you like and some new sh*t you don‘t like. And the new sh*t you don‘t like today will in 20 years be the old sh*t you want us to play and hate on the new sh*t we will have out then“ 😅
I actually had to cut contact with a few friends over this kind of thing. It got to the point where these people had gotten so stuck in the past and close minded I could predict how every conversation would go before even starting it off. You couldn't talk about movies, wrestling, comics, sports not even video games.
@@jamessunderland7435 omg, I feel you on that wrestling one. We live in a day and age where you can watch a wrestling program EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, and yet people will still complain about todays wrestling, and instead of trying to enjoy it they just watch rewinds of the Attitude Era
Bingo. It's so weird because everything they did from 91 to 97 was like a 10 out of 10 and steadily went downhill until they broke up. Luckily we can always go back and listen to the old stuff and it always makes me happy when I find something I hadn't heard from that era
People seemed to fall off the train after Mellon collie but I thought Adore and Machina 1+2 were all just masterpieces. Maybe it’s because I was a little younger than the Siamese people
This pretty much. Things I noticed about pumpkins fans across generations: 1) love whichever album they heard first 2) appreciate album(s) that came before it and 3) hate on albums that followed it. Remarkable.
@@sgt.lincolnosiris4111 still that opinion doesn't change anything. How many people you think told guns n Roses that they should do another album like appetite for destruction? Even if they have billions of dollars and the rest of their lives they still can't do another album like that, that's how impossible is it
yes , Siamese dream ," lifesaver " then i found pieces Iscariot and my life was beautiful and melancholy hit me very hard for a long time. what a journey, thank you !!
I used to listen The Smashing Pumpkins a lot when I was young and din't listen them for many many years. I just listened "Disarm" last day and I totally got the goosebumps !! I still have "Gish", "Siamese Dream", "Pisces Iscariot", and "Machina" as CD's, I just lost "The Mellon Collies and The Infinite Sadness" and "Adore" during a period of my life while I wasn't at home and my family were cleaning my garage and I'm a little bit pist for this. Ok I could buy them again for cheap but it's not a matter of money but it's just a matter of sentimental value. Even if you lose interest in something for a while it doesn't mean it will be for ever...on the contrary some things belongs to us more than we think! The Smashing Pumpkins will be always part of my life and my childhood...they're probably the most nostalgic rock band to listen of all time (maybe that's why I din't listen them for many years because they make me very nostalgic), and one of the most influent of the 90's no doubt. Yeah those were Good Times ❤
All these people bash the newer stuff, then a few years later they end up liking it as well. Just give it a chance I enjoy all of the smashing pumpkins from beginning to currently. Billy keep up the good work, I'll keep listening.
Youve moved my soul, and I do kind of Worship you as a soloist. I actually believe in the top 20..Drown, (In its entirety ...Is so pleasant to my ears...It makes me cry. ..So...I admire your contribution to music ! These annoying fans may just be curious to why the "
I like all the albums, tbh. It's good for a band to keep evolving and staying true to what they are. People aren't static, so art that encapsulates them also won't be static. If they still sang the same stuff they sang in their 20's, it wouldn't be the same as when they first sang it, because all the band members are at different stages of life now and have survived through various struggles, including with mental health, relationships, and all the things that can happen when rockers live for a long time. More artists should express their current truth, even as they age. Age, and the changing of emotions and experience, is natural.
Mr. NWA Billy Corgan made me see Billy in a different light than when I tought of him only as this mega rock star bak in the late 90's. We get to see the person behind the rockstar and I love that.
Artists, typically, write their best stuff when going through times of turmoil and strife. It's a tale as old as time. That's not saying the Pumpkins' stuff after 1995 is bad, but it will never hold the same resonance as it did with the fans that "grew up" with Billy.
I really didn’t think I’d like Ava Adore or Machina when they came out, but they surprised me. Melancholy will always be my favorite, but Smashing Pumpkins never disappoints regardless. Also, I fangirled so hard over Billy Corgan during his Nosferatu Adore era lol. Omg he was so pretty ♥️
@@TheTillia Tonight, Tonight and 1979 are like the only two songs on that album that are pretty great. I don't hate the album but overall it's nothing special.
You know what's crazy is I can elaborate cuz I'm listening to more Smashing Pumpkins and their stuff that I miss that is really good and I think I kind of ignored the newer . It is so good
I just can’t imagine telling a musician, or any kind of celebrity I care about for that matter, that I didn’t like a part of their career or something like that. Like if I ran into one of them, I would thank them for bettering my life or praise them for accomplishing something so extraordinary. I wouldn’t tell them I could go without there 2010s 😅
All the albums are good and I can literally listen to each album and go back to different times of my life happy and sad. The Smashing Pumpkins are one of the top bands of the 90s you either know or you don’t.
When you say this to Billy Corgan the next thing you should say after he asks "why do i need to know that" is "because I like the music, I like the lyrics, but I just don't get where you guys were coming from and I kinda really want to, man." BOOM right there you have probably just made the man's day.
The Problem is Siamese Dream and Infinite Sadness were so darn good that you can't come back from it. Anything after that will be mediocre happens to all successful bands. It breaks a lot of bands. Actually it did break them apart.
If I were him I’d can’t to tell them, “I can’t do anything about that. I can’t turn back the clock and make the both us kids again. I wrote that when I was going through a difficult time, you listened to it when you were going through a difficult time and there was a connection. Neither of us really wants to go back there. We have to live our lives as they are now. The truth is that you and I have less in common now than we did then, and that’s ok.”
@@NORWOODShadow what a majority of what people think. If the next person next to you on the train doesn't care what your opinion is likely neither does someone who's famous. Let's face it
Well, musicians must understand what happens when they want to drastically change their sound. From Gish to Melon Collie was absolutely beautiful, the entire albums were solid. And everything later has their hits, but we all know they just ain't got that same emotion. Only the band really knows what they changed.
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Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness is a great album too.
To be fair, so are gish, pisces iscariot, zero and maybe machina... but aside from those it's really hit or miss because it's more like "made for every individual to interpret" rather than "a genre"... that and made mostly for Billy and Billy's wishes and Billy's reasons, not the fans.
@@1popblocker9erThat's what Grunge is making music for yourself
@@gworsham32290 I mean I'd say that, but I think Kurt, Chris, and Layne would all disagree lol. They made it for themselves but it "became" about the fans, where as Billy always kind of went his own way.
Its full of filler. Should have been cut massively. At least 50% of the album is shite
@@1popblocker9ersurprised you said Machina. One of my tops.
Thought he was Bill Burr in yhe thumbnail before clicking😂
Ol' billy pumpkin head!
Not gonna lie you're aren't only one lol
If Bill Burr and Norm McDonald had a kid
I thought that the other day lol
Billy is older than Bill. Do with that what you will lol.
Gish, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, Mellon Collie, and Adore are alt rock classics
People hated on Machina, but it’s a masterpiece in my opinion, start to finish.
Thank you, Mr. Corgan 🙏🏻💓
Fantastic album.
Agreed.
Radio play my favorite song
Totally agree. Underrated.
Machina is to Smashing Pumpkins as Hail to the Thief is to Radiohead for me. Both came after big departures, returning to their roots while also stil experimenting. Both albums are also too long :P
"We like the old stuff"
Yeah even without the 2nd part, going up to an artist and saying "Hey we like the most popular thing you did 30 years ago" IS nice but also kind of bittersweet to hear, because they're done so much work since then, and they're still an artist now, and quite a different one from 30 years ago. If you can also find a way to say something more general, or something about their current work, that can be nice to hear. Speaking from experience!
Siamese and melancholy were just amazing front to back. A double album that isn’t a live recording is wild. Even crazier that it’s all fantastic.
pumpkins music has a habit of reminding you of a particular point in life than feels more real than normal, and you never get that feeling back from when you first heard it.
I'm just happy they keep making music, the new album is amazing.
Your thoughts on that are incredibly truthful.
At some point in our lives, usually when younger, the music at That Time, affects You deeply. For me, that was Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie, and even particular songs like Drown, from the Singles soundtrack.
I absolutely Love all of Billy's music, and it feels like it connects with my very Soul, on a subatomic level, but certain albums were There for me, when i went through so many hard changes and transitions in life, particularly as a teenager.
And like you said, it brings back deep feelings and memories 🧡
Today is the greatest. Tomorrow will always be infinite sadness.
@@XueviumI feel you, guys. Just listened to “this time” off machina and damn near wanted to cry. I miss feeling alive
Thank you Billy for recording Atum. It definitely made my year a lot better !
You really liked it? I couldn't get into it.
@@MistahMatzah No worries. I remember Lou Reed once saying something like "Man, don't ask me what you should listen to. Listen to whatever music YOU like." It's a big world and we're all adjusted to different wavelengths and frequencies and it would be pretty boring if everyone liked the same thing.
@@MistahMatzahaside from some filler songs, it's was a pretty good album but took me a while to listen
All of the albums have their place in time and space! Stoked you never stopped rocking Billy!
Mellon Collie and Adore were both amazing - Billy just continued to evolve his musical style and vision after those albums. I personally prefer the Early smashing pumpkins music, but honestly, a lot of that simply depends on what age you were growing up, when the various albums came out, and How deeply it affected You, at that time. All of Billy's music changed my life and connected with me on the deepest subatomic level, and i sincerely Thank him, and always will.
Adore sucks. It's literally the death of the real sound of the Pumpkins. For what? Some forced electronic angle? Why do that? It added nothing, but it was clear what's missing from that album, a sense of Pumkin Magic, it's literally bleached away by the new angle. That's what happens when you force an angle to sound fresh. It's FORCED, thus faux.
@@caiusmadison2996I think the lack of Pumpkin magic is what makes the record. It’s a great record of change and heartbreak, that encounters a large amount of different circumstances for a human to experience, at least especially when a human gets what they want and tragedy follows. The album lives for a reason, and the following recording exposes itself as a direct contrast to Adore, so I pray it is far better an experience for you than Adore.❤
You nailed it with the "age you were at the time" thing.
I was fortunate to have been in my early teens when Gish came out. Was introduced to me at 12 or 13 years old and it only got better.
@@caiusmadison2996me not being a SP fan, I compared the older albums to the newer ones. They both sound great in their own way. Both have their share of filler songs and songs that were a hit. The only guess that I can give to you is that you are clinging to nostalgia. Billy is old as hell, he's not going back to the "og" pumpkins sound anytime soon
All of the original run albums were great. It wasn’t until the reunited pumpkins post Jimmy that I felt I didn’t get it.
The old stuff was just epic.. it was also made while you were young and young people feel and experience the world differently.. so we all miss that and the 90s sound also is nostalgic and brings back memories.
Times change, musicians change, music changes.. and it's very hard to gain credibility when you "progress" since music is mostly about being genuine and often people just make it a profession. A job.. or art .
I'd argue that music isn't primarily even art - it's portraying experiences and emotions in a credible original way.
The experiences and feelings of older people usually tend to be less exciting and interesting.
People want to critique more than they want to enjoy. It’s more difficult (more pure) to find joy in something than it is to find issues in something. It takes a lot to learn to just enjoy most things for what they are 🤷
No it doesn't. Enjoying something is easy as hell. Coming up with a reasonable critique of something requires work.
criticism is aimed at the truth, but letting Billy know u don’t like it, pointless, what’s he going to say? he wrote a tune he wrote based on his own mission in music. I think it’s stupid to whine about people being straight up if you are going to luxuriate in praise, if u are going to be constantly promoting yourself. he may be an incredible guitarist & vocalist, makes no difference to me, because he seems like a snob, I don’t see music as a competition. When smashing pumpkins first came out, seemed like new new flower children, kids like everyone in the audience. Billy recorded a lot of the album because they preferred his ability. To me it’s not really a band. It’s a guy with people he lords over.
No interest. ZERO is retarded, his motivation for shaving his head is also lame. it’s a fu. Well u look stoooopid.
Thank you for continuing to make music whether it’s received well or not ❤️
People always feel the need to talk about how they don’t like newer things.
Some things in life don’t get better, you fr just have to enjoy what you had.
I love the Stones, Pink Floyd, The Dead, Allman Brothers and many bands that played a long time but every honest fan will tell you that the latter half of the career is always a creative wasteland even though the performance part is still impressive.
The 2nd half of the rock band career relies a lot on nostalgia so it doesn't really matter that the creative part isn't there, as long as you play "the hit(s)" they'll sit thru the new stuff.
@@vladaI 100% read “the dead Allman brothers” and I was very concerned that either A. They were dead and still making music, or B. The two grouped up and made an album I missed 😂😂
@@vladai was at a Lordi Show last year and the singer said: „we will play some old sh*t you like and some new sh*t you don‘t like. And the new sh*t you don‘t like today will in 20 years be the old sh*t you want us to play and hate on the new sh*t we will have out then“ 😅
I actually had to cut contact with a few friends over this kind of thing. It got to the point where these people had gotten so stuck in the past and close minded I could predict how every conversation would go before even starting it off. You couldn't talk about movies, wrestling, comics, sports not even video games.
@@jamessunderland7435 omg, I feel you on that wrestling one.
We live in a day and age where you can watch a wrestling program EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK, and yet people will still complain about todays wrestling, and instead of trying to enjoy it they just watch rewinds of the Attitude Era
Mellon collie was my fav every song is a masterpiece
They probably feel like that'll make you consider going back to that vibe or whatever
Bingo. It's so weird because everything they did from 91 to 97 was like a 10 out of 10 and steadily went downhill until they broke up. Luckily we can always go back and listen to the old stuff and it always makes me happy when I find something I hadn't heard from that era
People seemed to fall off the train after Mellon collie but I thought Adore and Machina 1+2 were all just masterpieces. Maybe it’s because I was a little younger than the Siamese people
This pretty much. Things I noticed about pumpkins fans across generations: 1) love whichever album they heard first 2) appreciate album(s) that came before it and 3) hate on albums that followed it. Remarkable.
@@gabrielatwoodbingo! But that just means that he’s always tried to evolve with the times which I think is super respectable.
Same here
Adore is still my favorite SP album.
@@gabrielatwoodNot me.
The fact that so many people have said this to him is probably something he should know.
Good luck getting BC to take their opinions and change. He, like so many amazing musicians are ego maniacs as well they should be.
@@sgt.lincolnosiris4111 still that opinion doesn't change anything. How many people you think told guns n Roses that they should do another album like appetite for destruction? Even if they have billions of dollars and the rest of their lives they still can't do another album like that, that's how impossible is it
I know, right?😂😂 Hes pissed to hear about it!! 😢
Then he says...."I dont fucking wanna know anything!..😂😂😂😂 fuk off!!!!😅😅😅
His ego ...and how he expresses the whole....transaction...had me laughing so hard I actually almost pissed my pants😂😂😂😂😅
yes , Siamese dream ," lifesaver " then i found pieces Iscariot and my life was beautiful and melancholy hit me very hard for a long time. what a journey, thank you !!
He should write a song about it.
The magic was him, James, Darcy and jimmy. It’s not just him. He doesn’t get that.
Love Billy. Guys a true musician.
Love everything he does ⚘
Thank god we have so many musicians tell us what they wanna hear and what they don’t.
I used to listen The Smashing Pumpkins a lot when I was young and din't listen them for many many years. I just listened "Disarm" last day and I totally got the goosebumps !!
I still have "Gish", "Siamese Dream", "Pisces Iscariot", and "Machina" as CD's, I just lost "The Mellon Collies and The Infinite Sadness" and "Adore" during a period of my life while I wasn't at home and my family were cleaning my garage and I'm a little bit pist for this.
Ok I could buy them again for cheap but it's not a matter of money but it's just a matter of sentimental value.
Even if you lose interest in something for a while it doesn't mean it will be for ever...on the contrary some things belongs to us more than we think!
The Smashing Pumpkins will be always part of my life and my childhood...they're probably the most nostalgic rock band to listen of all time (maybe that's why I din't listen them for many years because they make me very nostalgic), and one of the most influent of the 90's no doubt.
Yeah those were Good Times ❤
Thank you for your music Billy.
Thank you for making Siamese Dream it literally saved my life ❤❤💯
Its because , your music touches our lives..
I love him, his creativity at any point in time, and his haunting voice!
Adore is great too!
An album is like wine....sometimes your taste are not in sync.....just pass over and one day you will be in sync
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness and Machina are my fave Smashing Pumpkins albums.
Billy is a genius and ALL of his music is AMAZING!!!
That's a great bit. 😂❤
For real, Billy is a GOAT. ❤
Generally speaking an artist should be happy that people like their stuff and especially the older stuff. I swear, bless his heart, Billy has the tism
The best part is if I ever met Billy Corgan I would totally do this. It would just be in reverse.
Everything you created is wonderful. I actually love and appreciate all of it ...thank you! You are an interesting man
All these people bash the newer stuff, then a few years later they end up liking it as well. Just give it a chance I enjoy all of the smashing pumpkins from beginning to currently. Billy keep up the good work, I'll keep listening.
Unfortunately, The TRUTH can HURT.
Youve moved my soul, and I do kind of Worship you as a soloist. I actually believe in the top 20..Drown, (In its entirety ...Is so pleasant to my ears...It makes me cry. ..So...I admire your contribution to music ! These annoying fans may just be curious to why the "
All of the smashing pumpkins music saved my life. If you grew up in the 90’s. I’m sure many of you probably feel the same
I must have evolved with corgans music over the years. I love all of it. Each new album I love more than the last. Truth.
His career is genius. His catalog is legendary.
I like all the albums, tbh. It's good for a band to keep evolving and staying true to what they are. People aren't static, so art that encapsulates them also won't be static. If they still sang the same stuff they sang in their 20's, it wouldn't be the same as when they first sang it, because all the band members are at different stages of life now and have survived through various struggles, including with mental health, relationships, and all the things that can happen when rockers live for a long time.
More artists should express their current truth, even as they age. Age, and the changing of emotions and experience, is natural.
Zeitgeist was way underrated and unappreciated in my opinion.
Yeah I like that album too
I enjoy all of their catalog
As a super-fan of Smashing Pumpkins it highly annoys me too so no idea how it must feel for the actual creater.
I like a lot of smashing pumpkins songs through our their entire time
Zwan ruled!!!
Melon collie and infinite sadness was put on as i fell in love. We still play it and lay together.
Mr. NWA Billy Corgan made me see Billy in a different light than when I tought of him only as this mega rock star bak in the late 90's. We get to see the person behind the rockstar and I love that.
Artists, typically, write their best stuff when going through times of turmoil and strife. It's a tale as old as time. That's not saying the Pumpkins' stuff after 1995 is bad, but it will never hold the same resonance as it did with the fans that "grew up" with Billy.
I really didn’t think I’d like Ava Adore or Machina when they came out, but they surprised me. Melancholy will always be my favorite, but Smashing Pumpkins never disappoints regardless.
Also, I fangirled so hard over Billy Corgan during his Nosferatu Adore era lol. Omg he was so pretty ♥️
😂😂😂 dang those oxymorons
Those 50 ppl were spot on.
Oceania is a real good album though.
It’s extremely rare to find an SP fan who doesn’t have at least some good things to say about Mellon Collie though
@@bigbowlowrong4694 they continued to make decent music but the early stuff was better.
Mellon Collie is a masterpiece
@@TheTillia Tonight, Tonight and 1979 are like the only two songs on that album that are pretty great. I don't hate the album but overall it's nothing special.
In other words Billy....you peaked in 1995
I like the old stuff.....but I like the new stuff too ❤
I say just end the compliment with "thank you for making music"
Oceania is one of the most underrated albums in recent memory.
Some people are just badly socialized and are very rude without knowing it.
Not that you need to listen to their opinion but they are basically saying "you are still alive and thats an opportunity to make something great".
You know what's crazy is I can elaborate cuz I'm listening to more Smashing Pumpkins and their stuff that I miss that is really good and I think I kind of ignored the newer . It is so good
Nothing is better than him playing acoustic it really lets his voice carry the song
Mellon Collie is my favourite. Masterpiece
I wish I could tell Billy how much I love everything. I haven't kept up as much recently, but I haven't kept up with music period.
I just can’t imagine telling a musician, or any kind of celebrity I care about for that matter, that I didn’t like a part of their career or something like that. Like if I ran into one of them, I would thank them for bettering my life or praise them for accomplishing something so extraordinary. I wouldn’t tell them I could go without there 2010s 😅
Too funny. I sat behind Billy at a Cubs game back in 2005. I left him alone, but it was cool to see him there in the cold on an April afternoon.
I idolise you Billy, ALL of ur music is.. too good for this world💖💖💖 Love u
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Thx for Mellon Collie..it saved my life..😅❤
Billy is very talented when it comes to writing music. Period.
All the albums are good and I can literally listen to each album and go back to different times of my life happy and sad. The Smashing Pumpkins are one of the top bands of the 90s you either know or you don’t.
Billy writes amazing music, period.
People who said those clearly didn't had the time to appreciate melancholy
Pure gold on Siamese Dream..Then... Silver alloy...On Melloncholly and....
mine is mellon collie i love the way its misspelt
THANK YOU FOR MAKING GISH
He says it almost like he expects his fans to love everything he's done. That's a pretty occurrence in any art field, but music especially.
When you say this to Billy Corgan the next thing you should say after he asks "why do i need to know that" is "because I like the music, I like the lyrics, but I just don't get where you guys were coming from and I kinda really want to, man." BOOM right there you have probably just made the man's day.
The Problem is Siamese Dream and Infinite Sadness were so darn good that you can't come back from it. Anything after that will be mediocre happens to all successful bands. It breaks a lot of bands. Actually it did break them apart.
My question for Billy would be "where the hell is the Machina re-issue.?
If I were him I’d can’t to tell them, “I can’t do anything about that. I can’t turn back the clock and make the both us kids again. I wrote that when I was going through a difficult time, you listened to it when you were going through a difficult time and there was a connection. Neither of us really wants to go back there. We have to live our lives as they are now. The truth is that you and I have less in common now than we did then, and that’s ok.”
Forget that, thank you for bullet with butterfly wings, tops all yiur songs
I feel that way too about his catalogue
SP still writes good music. I don't really get their last synth pop albums, but there's some hidden gems in there. Oceania was a great album
I personally liked all the albums. My two favorite are definitely Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie though.
As humans we're only capable of so much.
Mellon collie is my gold. But I love everything he's done especially the stigmata soundtrack
It’s probably because many people are not self aware enough to know they don’t need to over share. 🙃
They made some killer music back in the day. (Sorry Billy) I guess I'm one of those guys. 😢
Hes just saying why does he care what we think.. whatever music you like is what you like
@@erics8018He's a musician he absolutely cares what people think, he just doesn't like criticism
@@NORWOODShadow what a majority of what people think. If the next person next to you on the train doesn't care what your opinion is likely neither does someone who's famous. Let's face it
@@erics8018 thank you brother
@@erics8018 But it's an opinion on his work. It sounds like he got upset by the fact it was a negative opinion, not the fact that it was an opinion.
Everything The Smashing Pumpkins made is great ! 👍 ❤
Tough shit dude, you're famous and this is the gig
I would say, "Great, I'll go back and change that." Then walk away and see if they are smart enough to get it.
SP For life. I love all the albums. All different and all well made. Screw the haters
They wouldn't say this if you were still making the great music of the first three albums. It's the reason they fell in love with The SP.
He is a great componer! Top 20 last 30 years
Well, musicians must understand what happens when they want to drastically change their sound. From Gish to Melon Collie was absolutely beautiful, the entire albums were solid. And everything later has their hits, but we all know they just ain't got that same emotion. Only the band really knows what they changed.
Yeahhh, adore and infinete are both masterpieces too
I love every SP period
Well its the truth, no? You dont want fans to BS right?
These are my exact thoughts and if I met him I don't think I could refrain from repeating it verbatim.....