Speaking from experience, if you don't put something down under that new raised bed the roots will actually grow up into the bed and you will be having the same problem all over again. Ask me how I know
The refresh looks great! I especially appreciate the new raised bed design and construction! As a partially disabled person, that is a bed even I could put together. That might just be a game changer for a lot of folks!
Lots of hard work there Jacques! I really like the new style raised beds but I'm partial to wooden raised beds =). I'll also add the only mulch I like more than fresh straw is 1 year old composted straw from straw bale gardens. We do 40-50 bales a year so all that organic matter gets added back in. Thanks for taking us along on the garden reset!
When i lived in a townhouse/row house i was planting in these plastic milk crates that I lined the fence with. Well I had a spruce tree in the yard and when i moved and went to load up the milk crate the roots from the spruce tree started to grow up and in the crates!!! I couldnt believe it! i had a hard time pulling up the crates and that was only from 2 years of being there. tree roots are crazy! Lol. Garden is looking great! Hopefully all that work will help you for the next couple of years!
That's a good point. Tree roots will grow in every direction, including up, if given the opportunity. If you're installing raised beds over existing tree roots, there's a chance the roots will find their way into the raised beds unless the bottoms are completely blocked off.
@@jacquesinthegarden I've used a battery powered reciprocating saw equipped with a long "pruning blade" to cut down below & along a single shovel blade depth narrow trench, to "prune" the tree roots heading into my raised beds.
I have a maple tree on the boulevard a couple feet downhill and across a sidewalk from some raised beds. Within two years of install, the nearest raised bed was about a third maple tree root by volume. Top to bottom on a 1.5 foot tall raised bed you can't dig more than a few inches because the tree roots have bound all the soil together. Trees are gonna get what they want!
The cedar bed looks fantastic! I have a dozen birdies beds and I love them. I've had to move them 3 times and it's just so simple. But man I like the cedar look 😃
Jacques, Definitely liking the wood chips over the straw in the pathways. Have to admit, though, I'm biased--I use wood chips for my pathways, too. Couldn't beat the cost--got a truck load for free when a neighborhood took down some very old oaks. 😁
I know how you feel. Most of my in grown garden have so many roots from a pecan tree and vines weeds. I use a broad fork to break and pull up as many roots as I can. However, I just ordered 8 more Birdies beds. Up to 17 beds with the great buy 3 get one free.
Ever thought about installing root barriers along the perimeter to prevent the intrusion of the tree / hedge roots into the garden? Would be a one a done type of job rather than having to periodically trench and prune out the invasive roots.
@@jacquesinthegarden I’m sure you have a different idea but stone pavers can help and typically people have old ones lying around that don’t match anything new
Wooden beds looks fantastic and easy to put together. Somehow ironic that you guys got excited about and picked up the Birdies design from Australia, but then made a version with American wood which I find really exciting and want as an Australian.
I’ve had a great bean year so far! I picked 3 lbs yesterday. I grew several varieties but the haricot verts I planted are the most prolific I’ve ever seen!
Jacques, you will still have root problems with the raised bed. I have raised beds because of mesquite and fig tree roots. I actually put pavers down under the raised beds and I STILL get roots growing up in the beds. The garden redo looks great!
Great example to the root of the problem. Many years ago I relocated a grape plant closer to 4 others. It had 2 long, 6ft, roots down in a crease through fairly clayish soil. It lived after the move, but probably should have put the new grapes around the old. Learned a ton about the ground, though.
Oh, my goodness! I just had to pause when you started showing those roots! We had areas of our garden last year, including grow bags, where things just did not do well, even though things grown in the same places previously did fine. In the fall, when clearing out grow bags, I found they were filled with tiny roots that had grown up from below. This spring, I reworked what had been a squash hill that failed, and it was full of roots, including large ones. The nearest tree is some 15-20 ft away. Currently, I'm reworking low raised beds into what will be their permanent positions and, at one end of all the beds, I'm finding more and more roots. They are all from some Chinese elms that had self seeded, along with some maples, in a raspberry patch. The raspberries were transplanted long before we moved out here, but the saplings were allowed to stay to form a (not needed) wind break (I roughly measured and calculated out that these trees lost about 1200 sq ft of garden space!). The maples are not doing this but as we have been reclaiming and amending the old garden area for the past 5 years, these Chinese Elm roots have been working their way into the softer, improved soil and stunting the things we plant! I never imagined that this would become a problem in the garden!
Great job, I’m very interested in which plants you use in your native pollinator patch. I’m trying to establish one by my vegetable garden here in the SF East Bay Area.
Slugs are why I started doing cabbage in containers instead of my raised beds. It’s been good so far. Problem is containers get hotter than in-ground. Looks like I can only do cabbage in the fall here in E TN.
trust me .. .slugs WILL find the cabbages and any other food for them in containers as well .... lol .... i got 96 containers in total (all between 45ltrs - 120ltrs) ... and slugs have been spotted ...everywhere ;) muhahahaha .... funny parts is (for the slugs) ... even my 3 ft high raised beds i got ... still are a hurdle slugs still can cross ;)
@@roelven1282 - yah the raised bed slugs had to cross rough concrete blocks to get to my cabbages and they still did it anyway. Crazy. Also, I noticed little tiny baby slugs in the grow bag cabbages so it does look like they will find a way lol. XD
You need a trench digger to better them N doing it by hand and much faster. Will shred the roots deep down. a wide one or narrow one? Wider, the better, I guess, though. And diug a trench around the perimeter of the garden.
Would it make a difference to put a piece of metal to block the roots or would the roots just go over under and around it?(For the citrus tree, not the hedge. The hedge looks intimidating.)
Nothing personal Jacque, but the 1st thing that came to mind regarding this wayward garden area was Rod Serling's voice saying, "You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!" lol 😲 tyfs
I have had to build platforms for my raised beds. Every 2 years I was having tree roots invade the beds and having to dig and cut them out. Now they can't grow into them.
Good video 👍 I have a passion vine and a chiltipin pepper plant in my 3 ft by 8ft raised bed which gets full unstructured sunlight the passion vine is in the middle of the bed and my idea was to try to create a canopy with the passion vine, but was just wondering what might be some good crops to inter crop with those that could grow great under the passion vine? 🤔
Why didn't you insert a root-barrier when you had already dug up the whole path? In case it's just missing knowledge: there are barriers especially for that purpose. They are normally used to stop plants from spreading, like bamboo or peppermint, and taking over parts of the garden they're not wanted in. You could use that to limit your citrus tree.
Does correctly composting scraps and old plants get rid of the risk of former plants germinating and popping up in a later season, or will you always run the risk of a tomato or tomatillo growing at some point?
When you dug your trench to cut the roots off, did you put some kind of barrier underground? Because I have the same problem, but with my cedar hedge and I don't know if I should put an underground barrier or something so that it won't invade my garden again later...
This season I've notice a lot of my drippiness stopped dripping. One line works while orders drip lines, only 1 or 2 drip hole is working. I do have filters on every drip irrigation. So any tips on how to clean the drip lines?
Jacques, do you treat all the beds with neem cake? Can you, as a preventative? I, too, struggle with nematodes. I’ve used it for the first time from your suggestion, last year. Thank you!
Hi Jacques, I have been unsuccessful at making enough compost of my own and was wondering if there is a place you trust here in San Diego to get compost? Have you tried City Farmers?
Have you ever had any issues with herbicides in your manure compost? It’s something I just found out that I’m dealing with it and I have no idea what to do aside from wait 3 years
A friend had this issue with compost she had brought in! It killed her dahlias before she realized the problem. I've heard it's less of an issue with chicken manure, but it's one of the reasons I'm trying to find organic alfalfa as an alternative. I'm curious to hear if there's anything to be done besides wait it out
I love my woodchip mulch but i also wish i could comfortably walk around barefoot. I still walk barefoot but i have to walk slowly so i dont skewer my feet lol
It is all preference really. The ground beds are harder to maintain and work on since they are so low. Wood looks great for some metal looks great for others. Metal will last longer than wood, by at least double, but it comes down to preferences here!
Congratulations on 400k
Thank you!
"I believe that and I think it's true" gonna be my new line when i haven't fact checked the last thing that came out of my mouth
It just makes sense :)
There was an Adam Savage line like this in MythBusters: "I reject your reality and substitute my own." One of my all time favorite lines lol.
Speaking from experience, if you don't put something down under that new raised bed the roots will actually grow up into the bed and you will be having the same problem all over again. Ask me how I know
Oh no 😢
Yup! Always put down thick cardboard. I always lay down the box it came in, whatever recycling I have available, then branches, soil, and compost
I will be digging a channel and applying root barrier in the winter when the rains start again!
The refresh looks great! I especially appreciate the new raised bed design and construction! As a partially disabled person, that is a bed even I could put together. That might just be a game changer for a lot of folks!
Are the tree collards gone though? Please Jacques, please...put them out of their misery...
😢😢 where will the cabbage moths go....
Ha ha @@Ash-fd8ww
I'll never give them up!
@@jacquesinthegarden long live the tree collards!!
@@jacquesinthegarden🎶 never gonna give you up, never gonna let you down ... 🎵
Lots of hard work there Jacques! I really like the new style raised beds but I'm partial to wooden raised beds =). I'll also add the only mulch I like more than fresh straw is 1 year old composted straw from straw bale gardens. We do 40-50 bales a year so all that organic matter gets added back in. Thanks for taking us along on the garden reset!
That is a cool little side bonus of having the straw bale gardens!
When i lived in a townhouse/row house i was planting in these plastic milk crates that I lined the fence with. Well I had a spruce tree in the yard and when i moved and went to load up the milk crate the roots from the spruce tree started to grow up and in the crates!!! I couldnt believe it! i had a hard time pulling up the crates and that was only from 2 years of being there. tree roots are crazy! Lol. Garden is looking great! Hopefully all that work will help you for the next couple of years!
That's a good point. Tree roots will grow in every direction, including up, if given the opportunity. If you're installing raised beds over existing tree roots, there's a chance the roots will find their way into the raised beds unless the bottoms are completely blocked off.
I've heard of roots shooting up into containers and beds. For sure expect that here eventually! Then I actually have to deal with it
@@jacquesinthegarden I've used a battery powered reciprocating saw equipped with a long "pruning blade" to cut down below & along a single shovel blade depth narrow trench, to "prune" the tree roots heading into my raised beds.
I have a maple tree on the boulevard a couple feet downhill and across a sidewalk from some raised beds. Within two years of install, the nearest raised bed was about a third maple tree root by volume. Top to bottom on a 1.5 foot tall raised bed you can't dig more than a few inches because the tree roots have bound all the soil together. Trees are gonna get what they want!
This is my issue. And I have no other place to move the bed.
That new cedar bed looks SO sweet! Would love to get one at some point.
The cedar bed looks fantastic! I have a dozen birdies beds and I love them. I've had to move them 3 times and it's just so simple. But man I like the cedar look 😃
The rutabaga's look like punk rockers with Mohawks. LOL.
I was thinking Mr. T 😂😂😂
Haha amazing
Jacques,
Definitely liking the wood chips over the straw in the pathways. Have to admit, though, I'm biased--I use wood chips for my pathways, too. Couldn't beat the cost--got a truck load for free when a neighborhood took down some very old oaks. 😁
I know how you feel. Most of my in grown garden have so many roots from a pecan tree and vines weeds. I use a broad fork to break and pull up as many roots as I can. However, I just ordered 8 more Birdies beds. Up to 17 beds with the great buy 3 get one free.
I dunno about you, but I love when I get to use the mattock at full power.
Ohhh… tearing up, not tearing.
The English language can be tricky. I wound the bandage around my wound. 😉
Most language is like that
I'm just happy y'all are using punctuation!
(It's so much easier to read.)
No he’s crying on the inside
@@bethb8276you wound it around your wound? That doesn’t make sense… 😂
Ever thought about installing root barriers along the perimeter to prevent the intrusion of the tree / hedge roots into the garden? Would be a one a done type of job rather than having to periodically trench and prune out the invasive roots.
I should have mentioned it but I plan on doing it in the winter after the rain softens the earth and most of my plants aren't in the way!
@@jacquesinthegarden I’m sure you have a different idea but stone pavers can help and typically people have old ones lying around that don’t match anything new
Wooden beds looks fantastic and easy to put together. Somehow ironic that you guys got excited about and picked up the Birdies design from Australia, but then made a version with American wood which I find really exciting and want as an Australian.
I've anxiously been waiting for another post from you! And here you are!! Yippee!!!
I’ve had a great bean year so far! I picked 3 lbs yesterday. I grew several varieties but the haricot verts I planted are the most prolific I’ve ever seen!
That is awesome, I am very much looking forward to a big bean harvest!
hey, i have a bed that looks just like that except much much cheaper looking. but it's the same basic design. and mine only has 3 slats on the side.
With wood chips you can scatter mushroom starter under it and get mushrooms popping up…just needs to be damp enough!
Do everything turn turn doin a great job 💪 keep on truckin motivation is high it's looking good!
WoW, the amount you did in a day! Amazing + thanks for the helpful advice. 😊
Jacques, you will still have root problems with the raised bed. I have raised beds because of mesquite and fig tree roots. I actually put pavers down under the raised beds and I STILL get roots growing up in the beds.
The garden redo looks great!
Great example to the root of the problem.
Many years ago I relocated a grape plant closer to 4 others. It had 2 long, 6ft, roots down in a crease through fairly clayish soil. It lived after the move, but probably should have put the new grapes around the old. Learned a ton about the ground, though.
Oh, my goodness! I just had to pause when you started showing those roots!
We had areas of our garden last year, including grow bags, where things just did not do well, even though things grown in the same places previously did fine. In the fall, when clearing out grow bags, I found they were filled with tiny roots that had grown up from below. This spring, I reworked what had been a squash hill that failed, and it was full of roots, including large ones. The nearest tree is some 15-20 ft away. Currently, I'm reworking low raised beds into what will be their permanent positions and, at one end of all the beds, I'm finding more and more roots. They are all from some Chinese elms that had self seeded, along with some maples, in a raspberry patch. The raspberries were transplanted long before we moved out here, but the saplings were allowed to stay to form a (not needed) wind break (I roughly measured and calculated out that these trees lost about 1200 sq ft of garden space!). The maples are not doing this but as we have been reclaiming and amending the old garden area for the past 5 years, these Chinese Elm roots have been working their way into the softer, improved soil and stunting the things we plant! I never imagined that this would become a problem in the garden!
Nice and fresh! And you know what? If it doesn't work out with the root situation you can always plant more trees and berry bushes!
Great job, I’m very interested in which plants you use in your native pollinator patch. I’m trying to establish one by my vegetable garden here in the SF East Bay Area.
Nice looking raised beds
I am super happy with them!
Slugs are why I started doing cabbage in containers instead of my raised beds. It’s been good so far. Problem is containers get hotter than in-ground. Looks like I can only do cabbage in the fall here in E TN.
trust me .. .slugs WILL find the cabbages and any other food for them in containers as well .... lol .... i got 96 containers in total (all between 45ltrs - 120ltrs) ... and slugs have been spotted ...everywhere ;) muhahahaha .... funny parts is (for the slugs) ... even my 3 ft high raised beds i got ... still are a hurdle slugs still can cross ;)
Interestingly enough I only lost like 3 out of the 15 cabbages I put to severe slug damage.
@@roelven1282 - yah the raised bed slugs had to cross rough concrete blocks to get to my cabbages and they still did it anyway. Crazy. Also, I noticed little tiny baby slugs in the grow bag cabbages so it does look like they will find a way lol. XD
Good video. I look forward to seeing this patch as it develops. 👍
You need a trench digger to better them
N doing it by hand and much faster. Will shred the roots deep down. a wide one or narrow one? Wider, the better, I guess, though. And diug a trench around the perimeter of the garden.
Wow you are a hard worker! Good job, that raised bed you put together is beautiful!
Kale looks delicious i would keep it.
I have another huge kale patch otherwise I agree, honestly I should have just saved it regardless
That raised bed is really stunning!
Raised beds with bottoms the only way to tackle tree roots.
For sure the best options, I plan on trenching and adding root barrier in the winter when it rains again!
Would it make a difference to put a piece of metal to block the roots or would the roots just go over under and around it?(For the citrus tree, not the hedge. The hedge looks intimidating.)
I actually did just that last year with metal flashing but it apparently wasn't enough :(
Thanks for the tips about the roots. I’m having the same problem.
Those are some big roots 👀
Jacques’ back on the block!
Much better! Love the new bed!
"I just believe it and I think it's true" 🤣🤣🤣 I love it
Lovely reset, and wow, how much do I love that new raised bed concept!
the garden looks awesome
🙂🌻
The garden looks great! Can you do a video about growing beans? I have tried to grow them for three years and haven’t had much success.
Ill add it to the list of ideas!
Should have put weed block beneath that new raised bed. I have tree roots that invaded my raised beds too.
Would surely be nice to find a garden like that in the wilderness be let go to seed and populate a natural area. Such a treasure of varieties!
Those new cedar beds are gorgeous
Filderkraut! That‘s a variety from the southwest of Germany where I live!
It is so neat looking! "Ich habe einen clubfooß!"(the only German I know!)
Is it one you traditionally make sauerkraut with?
Nothing personal Jacque, but the 1st thing that came to mind regarding this
wayward garden area was Rod Serling's voice saying,
"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!" lol 😲 tyfs
That's a nice looking bed. I expected Kevin to pop out like Night of the Living Dead.
Hi Jacques 👋 it looks great, good job! Thanks for the video, happy growing 🌻💚
I have had to build platforms for my raised beds. Every 2 years I was having tree roots invade the beds and having to dig and cut them out. Now they can't grow into them.
Awww Jacque! I'm so sorry those citrus trees caused you so much work! So happy you are going to love having them re-done though!
Looks great!
The new raised bed is stunning! Nice work on that garden update.
Oh i want that cedar bed its so pretty when put together
the wood chip does look much better on camera. thank you for doing this for us :)
No beans about it: the soil is the culprit!
💯 we got some and soil to blame
😂😂😂 good one.
Isn’t it almost always like that though. It’s always more than you planned lol.
That black Shepard in the background is a beautiful dog
Good video 👍 I have a passion vine and a chiltipin pepper plant in my 3 ft by 8ft raised bed which gets full unstructured sunlight the passion vine is in the middle of the bed and my idea was to try to create a canopy with the passion vine, but was just wondering what might be some good crops to inter crop with those that could grow great under the passion vine? 🤔
I love blob gardens 😂
Why didn't you insert a root-barrier when you had already dug up the whole path? In case it's just missing knowledge: there are barriers especially for that purpose. They are normally used to stop plants from spreading, like bamboo or peppermint, and taking over parts of the garden they're not wanted in. You could use that to limit your citrus tree.
I plan on trenching and adding root barrier in the winter when it rains again all along the boundaries of my garden
Millennial gardener put a couple layers of weed fabric under the raised beds to keep out rodents and tree roots. Do you think it’s a good idea?
Uh oh! It looks like you have a jumping worm at @2:29, Jacques! Watch out for those worms. Good job on the refresh!
I wondered about that when I saw that worm in the compost.
Hmm, I am going to have to look closer, hopefully it was just an adventurous worm.
Thank you Jacques. 💐💚🙃
Looks good Jacques! I highly recommend lactid acid bacteria serum (LABS) as an easy KNF recipe to alleviate phosphorus toxicity.
I will look into it!
That seems to be the way ! You think you're doing a simple task and mother says "no you're not " lol!
Nice to see you!
I love sugar cane mulch, it’s readily available in Australia and it’s cheap
That is cool, I wish we had a local waste product
Those rutabagas looked like puppets with mohawks, LOL!!!🤣
Does correctly composting scraps and old plants get rid of the risk of former plants germinating and popping up in a later season, or will you always run the risk of a tomato or tomatillo growing at some point?
Put some eyes on those rutabaga and you got a Muppet😅
Hahha
Fork it all !
If kale is bolting it would have had to go through a cold period right? They're biennial.
What is the tall plant in the background of your raised cedar bed that has the tall stalks of blue flowers?
Echium
Pride of Madeira!
When you dug your trench to cut the roots off, did you put some kind of barrier underground? Because I have the same problem, but with my cedar hedge and I don't know if I should put an underground barrier or something so that it won't invade my garden again later...
This season I've notice a lot of my drippiness stopped dripping. One line works while orders drip lines, only 1 or 2 drip hole is working. I do have filters on every drip irrigation. So any tips on how to clean the drip lines?
Jacques, do you treat all the beds with neem cake? Can you, as a preventative? I, too, struggle with nematodes. I’ve used it for the first time from your suggestion, last year. Thank you!
I pretty much do with any sensitive plants or in areas where I know it has been an issue.
Do you do anything to your eggshells before throwing them in the compost.?
Where are you that you get slugs??? Or cabbages?
GO BEANS! And, um, why does it seem you have to work TWICE as hard as Kevin???
Those rutabaga look like Mr. T
hahaha amazing!
Hey my man
Where can I find that Lincoln log planter!?!
Link in description!
Have the nematodes worked for the grubs? I’m struggling with them.
They do if applied regularly at the right time. For now most of my grubs seem to be concentrated in my raised beds where I never applied nematodes
Hi Jacques, I have been unsuccessful at making enough compost of my own and was wondering if there is a place you trust here in San Diego to get compost? Have you tried City Farmers?
Full bean??
Was that a Jeff Acuri reference?
Have you ever had any issues with herbicides in your manure compost? It’s something I just found out that I’m dealing with it and I have no idea what to do aside from wait 3 years
A friend had this issue with compost she had brought in! It killed her dahlias before she realized the problem. I've heard it's less of an issue with chicken manure, but it's one of the reasons I'm trying to find organic alfalfa as an alternative. I'm curious to hear if there's anything to be done besides wait it out
I went with an organic based manure so in theory they shouldn't be eating any herbicide laden foods
I love my woodchip mulch but i also wish i could comfortably walk around barefoot. I still walk barefoot but i have to walk slowly so i dont skewer my feet lol
why do some beds have wood or metal and some are just in the ground?
It is all preference really. The ground beds are harder to maintain and work on since they are so low. Wood looks great for some metal looks great for others. Metal will last longer than wood, by at least double, but it comes down to preferences here!
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Won’t they just grow back? (Roots)
They for sure will, I plan on trenching and adding root barrier in the winter when it rains again!
For views
Yeah worm compost. Worms rule 👍🏼🪱😁