I totally agree with you when you say: 1000 watts of peak power is mainly something commercial rather than something real....they claim 600 watts which is enough without creating any misunderstanding in the customers... Good test Alex 🤙
Great video awesome advice at the end. It's easy to get hung up on specs. Especially things like peak power. I opted to go for a "gen 4 cx Bosch" I paid half the cost of the brand new Gen 5s.
First off, thank you for your good work and love the video. Also, I will buy it... Bosch here is my money, now for my grievance: its very smooth and performant, much power delivery and cadence until you reach 32 km/hour and then it BOAT ANCHERS me into a downhill and my 7 year old passes me with her 18 inches Roscoe. ( Hi dad! - Hi hon. ) Nevertheless, I will still buy it since I am a well mannered obedient little consumer.😂
The display and cockpit layout is what ive been waiting for from Bosch, interested in what the top tube display will be as some new bikes have a bigger cutout. Like that they have focused on refining a good system. Think they have a new feature that helps with a standing start on a steep climb that helps control the power delivery better?
@@alexbiketestersurely you have seen the Dji system release. This is Bosch playing catch up because they have had to, so as to remain relevant. Dji still has this beaten on power, weight, assistance and technology. Backed by the same 2 Yr industry standard warranty.
This is all you need power wise... at least until components get stronger/better. Anything more will just eat through parts. It will be interesting to see how long chains, chainrings, tyres, and the battery last on the 'big power' over hyped dji 😂
Probably get flamed for this, but enjoy the Aventon Ramblas mid-drive (250w) for it's delivery. On ECO, it's torquey. Had to to EMTB mode on my Bosch CX (2024 Cannondale Moterra Neo 3, so Gen 4). Ramblas is noisier (not as noisy as Shimano), but you will never feel lacking. Ramblas needs full sus (hardtail) with a better front fork. Other than that, more fun, nimble & torquey.
Hey Alex. Thank you for great, very understandable, quality presentation. I am curious to try this motor myself, I currently ride Bosch CX4 smart on my Pivot Shuttle AM an it works very good ( better then Shimano on LT model...) What I expected form improved version is, that smoothness that you talk about.. CX4 reacts too agressive and kills that so called natural feeling. Anyway, thx for video. Greetings from eMTB Slovenia!
The latest one is smoothly aggressive one could say.... the tuning in the app though does give the ability to play with it better to get the feel you want. thanks for watching I appreciate the support!
@@alexbiketester interesting, as most people consider the 801 with updated software quite decent and comparable with the CX4. Have a good offer on a LT and somehow ok on the ST but would like a bike more similar with my firebird. The new one coming in the next days with the updated engine ( still not sure if it will be CX4 race or CX5) would be nice but for twice the money....
Waiting for that Bosch update boosting the torque up to 100-110NM...but, we have Specialized releasing the new Levo some time soon, hope it is a longer travel one
People have this new shiny object thing with DJI. Bosch is a proven system they are highly regarded across the market. I do not see how anyone can compare a product that has not been market tested yet. Bosch for the win they are king of the hill! Autoshift seems to be the latest thing with all the players launching some version of it. The feedback on it good from most reviews but I think when deciding which bike you are going to buy auto shift isn't on the top of the list. A solid tough motor is probably at the top. So Bosch is just checking off the rest of the boxes as the motor is already highly regarded. Thanks for the review!!
i think one of the underrate things in the markte is, how long you can get batteries or spareparts and there in think bosch is one of the kings... in smaller brands on versys specal things abfter 5-10years you can thorow the thing away or it gets hard to get it..
Bosch is still the number 1 motor on the market right now, other motors will have to prove themselves in the real world, this is where Bosch is the king 💪🏾
The people at Bosch are concerned that the people at Dji have demolished there motor on there first go more like ! (Threatening them not the Ebike market 😂) these bikes / motors are still being talked about like there actually really fast and powerful….. please get a grip and put this into perspective….. there capable of half the speed of a moped ffs let alone something thats actually fast 🙈
Bosch are concerned about rules and technical support and quality performance. DJI has not got enough brands on board to have any say in direction of the market yet. So far it's only hype.
@@alexbiketester it’s not hype is tho it’s facts there motor as tested my Rob and Sam and others has proven to be over 7 seconds faster up a 30-40 second climb !! Thats absolutely crushed the others …. If it was just technical spec / claims I would see your point but its not on there first try they have made the others looks stupid in performance, tech , intergration and weight.
Very close to swapping my Gen 1 Levo SL to something new after 4 years of amazing riding. The question is do I take a plunge on the DJi , order a Orbea Wild with this new motor or wait just a little longer to see what Specialized have up their sleeve 🧐
Yes Bosch have a huge software update coming soon in accordance with their toptube display they think the software update will take the motor to around 100-110 NM 🤷♂️ specialised have teased they are about to drop a new Turbo Levo which will also be groundbreaking exciting time in the industry 😊
If Bosch Corporate was really interested in clawing back their ebike market dominance, they should try to buy DJI. Unfortunately, I don’t think a private Chinese company would sell to them. Fascinating
Hahaah I'm not sure the politics behind DJI is clear yet to the brands that do b2b. They will probably offer bikes with the system. However system diversification is a fundamental in today's market. Offer all types of motor
@@alexbiketester Dji doesn’t need other brands as much as other brands need DJI. That is the point of a primer brand like Amflo. It proofs Dji has access to quality frame production and the rest is sourcing the same components as the established brands. The big brands have no edge in quality since they all source from Asia anyway. Don’t you get it? Dji was sending a message: we can go it alone or with partners or both. And the industry heard it loud and clear. That is why videos such as this are frantically saturating social media in an attempt at damage control before the wave hits. Just watch. One big name will integrate the dji system in early 2025 and the rest will start signing contracts. But Bosch already knows this.
@@boulderghost4457 at last some intelligence. Couldn't agree more. So called big established brands are literally running around trying to justify their work, whilst a brand from nowhere has built a quality bike brand, using quality components to house their very own motor. It's the shakeup this industry needed.
Hi Alex (or anyone reading this who has any insight). I’m from the U.S. and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on the Spectral: ON CFR since the price is so competitive for components (all carbon, Di, 6.5k) - I’m not in a rush to get one - wonder if I should wait. I’m sure if I wait the price on new components will cost more. I’m not a pro - just an older fella (57) wanting to ride trails. Thoughts? Wait or pull the trigger - your opinion.
Shimano is coming in 2025. But nothing that will blow it away. The Bosch bikes are good, but again it's not going to change your life. Therefore it's a good option.
@@alexbiketester thanks for the advice my friend. I agree. I’m just an old man wanting to enjoy the last years of life - not a 18 year old wanting to crush the trails - although sometimes it’s fun to act like an 18 year old. Thanks again!
@@grahamsmith9788 amen, brother. yeah I was thinking that this morning. The ON CFR has been as low at 6k in the states - currently at 6,599.00 - I think I’ll wait. If it goes up or sells out, oh well, I’m not in any rush. As they say in realestate, there’s a ‘deal of a lifetime every week.’ The green ON CFR is a sweet looking bike. Hope I can snag one. 1️⃣. Thanks, Alex!
The amount of cope videos flooding Utube with the title: Bosch CX , why it’s the best motor and why the better DJI is too good, probably unreliable, and should be illegal (until the rest of the industry catches up). Lol. Reminds me of Blackberry cope when the iPhone was released. Can’t wait to buy the new DJI and maybe I’ll buy a Bosch next year, at a STEEP discount!
I'm not coping. I fully researched everything and spoke about the DJI with the one person who has tried it in the world properly and the Bosch plus I've tried nearly all the other motors out their. So, check out all my other videos:-) I'm going to do a live sometime soon about this as it's a hot topic.... One thing that's important is that the business behind reliance and real world rules and also warranty and service for the systems takes time to build. You can disrupt and offer headline numbers, but it's not a mobile phone .... It's more complicated and expensive to do than that. New entrances have an uphill(pun intended) struggle to get to the level of Shimano or Bosch. Reality is there will be a small churn rate, but actually swapping systems whole sale and burning a whole brand and sector is not going to happen in a magic moment
@@alexbiketester 1-2 years and dji will have 2major brands. Triple that one year later. I suggest you demo the Dji motor. It’s next level. Dji software and motor efficiency is beyond anyone in the industry. You would be surprised at the deal’s incubating at eurobike Dji will disrupt more than you know on a brand relationship level as well as a product demand level. It’s just beginning. Bosch knows this and you can smell the panic. Shimano too. Shimano last minute software boost for the 801 is desperate and questionable considering their motors past issues. But hey keep pushing the incremental improvements until the can catch up to DJi. It’s not more complicated or expensive to do than a mobie phone but my analogy was simply about massive disruption. Dji is massively disrupting the industry and they know how to partner with well regarded American and European brands. Prime candidates like yeti, Santa Cruz, trek, transition, pivot, Ari, revel who need more reliable systems than fazua or Shimano will probably surprise next year. In the meantime you can tell it’s coming by the fury of “software upgrades” from everyone else.
@@alexbiketester this is Dji. An already incredibly successful, profitable and proven business. Their drones as used extensively, their cameras also. I bet you even use one yourself, like countless others. I think they shouldn't be underestimated in what they can do. Look what they have achieved already. They built a bike brand to showcase and show that they don't need anyone else. They expected Brands to respond like they have, they will have done their due diligence to run the course and back up what they have done.
@@shaneycarter8803 lets see how they run things. I just want to make sure as I do this job every day and have been on ebikes since 2010, that everyone knows they are using a lot of marketing....
Dji is leading the market now. Bosch have been forced into implementing these new additions to their system. Dli has this beaten on every point. Weight, assistance, application, technology and of course power. All backed up by the same 2 Yr industry standard warranty. None of what Bosch has now released is now new. They've released this without even the new built in display. Drip feeding it into the market so as not to upset the bikes still unsold with the gen 4 motors. Dji developed a bike from scratch to showcase their abilities. Bosch have been complacent and Dji is now the one to catch...... Literally 😊
I'm not sure complacent, but DJI is not as refined, they lack experience with the brands .... That's the key. They have to play numbers catch up..... Sure a strong marketing start. Bikes have yet to ship. My only concern is the frames are too light....
@@alexbiketesternot as refined!?! Where is your product comparison video? Have you reviewed the DJI? Frame is too light?? Why, did you snap your demo frame? What are you on about?? Seriously, your credibility is gutter level. In the next 12 months, DJI will be a known commodity and then what excuse will you grapple at? Jeezus, as a publically traded corporate entity it’s bad enough to be beaten, but at least have the dignity to acknowledge your loss and go back to the drawing boards gracefully. Sorry, I was speaking to you as if you were representing Bosch in some way?
@@alexbiketester refinement is Dji strong point. They have covered the bike in sensors from their drone tech. Yaw sensors, elevation, angle etc. It uses a 42 point magnet pick up to constantly measure power assistance. Most still use just one. The battery is slimmer and more power dense. It charges quicker than any other. The screen is the most comprehensive and built in to the frame. Then there's the motor that is quieter under load and more powerful, yet lighter. The Amflow bike was built to blur the lines of full power and lightweight. I'm sure that this will be offered to full Enduro type builds. The bikes are going to sell out and be a surefire hit. Backed by quality retailers and warranties. Bosch are a great company but they should be leading this market, however Dji is leading the way. I have no concerns about reliability and back up. They are already a market leader with a proven track record.
@@shaneycarter8803 I'm pretty sure the amflow frame is an unknown quantity first. The DJI is not smoother than the Bosch.... Ask Danny from @mbr he's ridden both.
@lamaswami- "DJI is the best " ?😂🤣 how is something the "Best " if you can't even buy it yet ??? Only AFTER a substantial number of bikes are sold and ridden for a year or more will we know what the bike is really like . Will the frame hold up ? will the motor overheat as stated by DJI when turbo is used too often ? will the battery withstand all that fast charging . will the difficult to remove battery become a pain in the A** will there be a quick easy and vast service as bosch currently has , etc etc. Remember this ,,,,, There is a vast difference /distinction between experience and understanding . DJI cannot currently be EXPERIENCED , it remains in the world of words and specs.
@@siriosstar4789until they can take the limit of 15.5 mph off the DJI motor and even up it to us setting, its gonna be like every other e bike motor, bored of it after a few months
@@siriosstar4789 dji service is exceptional and centers are right in the USA/Europe/Asia already. Dji has produced millions of electric motors and cutting edge battery packs. From the $500 drones taking out tanks in ukraine and Russia to $100,000 Agricultural drones, they know how to make reliable, efficient and power electric motors. Bosch is a trillion dollar megacorp that has millions of products but dji does one thing well, very well.
Absolutely retains the title of the go to motor hands down, great job Bosch 💪
Couldn't agree more!
I totally agree with you when you say: 1000 watts of peak power is mainly something commercial rather than something real....they claim 600 watts which is enough without creating any misunderstanding in the customers... Good test Alex 🤙
@@tizianosarria1124 incan explain more clearly in another video how they arrive at 250w
Hello from Bucharest România 🇹🇩 ✌️
Great video awesome advice at the end. It's easy to get hung up on specs. Especially things like peak power. I opted to go for a "gen 4 cx Bosch" I paid half the cost of the brand new Gen 5s.
What is it like to pedal past the cut of speed does it still feel like pedaling through mud . Great video 👍
It's basically imperceptible
First off, thank you for your good work and love the video. Also, I will buy it... Bosch here is my money, now for my grievance: its very smooth and performant, much power delivery and cadence until you reach 32 km/hour and then it BOAT ANCHERS me into a downhill and my 7 year old passes me with her 18 inches Roscoe. ( Hi dad! - Hi hon. ) Nevertheless, I will still buy it since I am a well mannered obedient little consumer.😂
thanks for watching.
The display and cockpit layout is what ive been waiting for from Bosch, interested in what the top tube display will be as some new bikes have a bigger cutout. Like that they have focused on refining a good system. Think they have a new feature that helps with a standing start on a steep climb that helps control the power delivery better?
refined a good system and made it so that any other motor out ther eis no where near as refined.
@@alexbiketestersurely you have seen the Dji system release. This is Bosch playing catch up because they have had to, so as to remain relevant. Dji still has this beaten on power, weight, assistance and technology. Backed by the same 2 Yr industry standard warranty.
Did you research the current market before producing this video or did you just get the email from Bosch and wait for the payment to arrive?
This is all you need power wise... at least until components get stronger/better. Anything more will just eat through parts. It will be interesting to see how long chains, chainrings, tyres, and the battery last on the 'big power' over hyped dji 😂
yesss
Probably get flamed for this, but enjoy the Aventon Ramblas mid-drive (250w) for it's delivery. On ECO, it's torquey. Had to to EMTB mode on my Bosch CX (2024 Cannondale Moterra Neo 3, so Gen 4). Ramblas is noisier (not as noisy as Shimano), but you will never feel lacking. Ramblas needs full sus (hardtail) with a better front fork. Other than that, more fun, nimble & torquey.
not tired it would be interesting to!
Hey Alex. Thank you for great, very understandable, quality presentation. I am curious to try this motor myself, I currently ride Bosch CX4 smart on my Pivot Shuttle AM an it works very good ( better then Shimano on LT model...) What I expected form improved version is, that smoothness that you talk about.. CX4 reacts too agressive and kills that so called natural feeling. Anyway, thx for video. Greetings from eMTB Slovenia!
The latest one is smoothly aggressive one could say.... the tuning in the app though does give the ability to play with it better to get the feel you want. thanks for watching I appreciate the support!
Wondering solely to the PIVOT you mentioned. The LT was with EP801 or ep8?
@@Bogdan_Ch 801
with updated software
@@alexbiketester interesting, as most people consider the 801 with updated software quite decent and comparable with the CX4. Have a good offer on a LT and somehow ok on the ST but would like a bike more similar with my firebird. The new one coming in the next days with the updated engine ( still not sure if it will be CX4 race or CX5) would be nice but for twice the money....
@@Bogdan_Ch EP8
Waiting for that Bosch update boosting the torque up to 100-110NM...but, we have Specialized releasing the new Levo some time soon, hope it is a longer travel one
some have riddend it...
People have this new shiny object thing with DJI. Bosch is a proven system they are highly regarded across the market. I do not see how anyone can compare a product that has not been market tested yet. Bosch for the win they are king of the hill! Autoshift seems to be the latest thing with all the players launching some version of it. The feedback on it good from most reviews but I think when deciding which bike you are going to buy auto shift isn't on the top of the list. A solid tough motor is probably at the top. So Bosch is just checking off the rest of the boxes as the motor is already highly regarded. Thanks for the review!!
Autoshift is good. im going to do a video about it with bosch.... thanks for watching
i think one of the underrate things in the markte is, how long you can get batteries or spareparts and there in think bosch is one of the kings... in smaller brands on versys specal things abfter 5-10years you can thorow the thing away or it gets hard to get it..
Bosch is still the number 1 motor on the market right now, other motors will have to prove themselves in the real world, this is where Bosch is the king 💪🏾
Yes. Weirdly I'm the only one to do a ride test and talk about how it rides.... Everyone else is just talking specs
Agreed
The people at Bosch are concerned that the people at Dji have demolished there motor on there first go more like ! (Threatening them not the Ebike market 😂) these bikes / motors are still being talked about like there actually really fast and powerful….. please get a grip and put this into perspective….. there capable of half the speed of a moped ffs let alone something thats actually fast 🙈
Bosch are concerned about rules and technical support and quality performance. DJI has not got enough brands on board to have any say in direction of the market yet. So far it's only hype.
@@alexbiketester it’s not hype is tho it’s facts there motor as tested my Rob and Sam and others has proven to be over 7 seconds faster up a 30-40 second climb !! Thats absolutely crushed the others …. If it was just technical spec / claims I would see your point but its not on there first try they have made the others looks stupid in performance, tech , intergration and weight.
Hello! Thanks for the video! One question, is the over-run tune able? Could you customize it? Thanks!
yes but it tunes in sync with the power adjustments
@@alexbiketester so… the higher the mode, the more over-run you get? More in temps of time, power or time and power?
Very close to swapping my Gen 1 Levo SL to something new after 4 years of amazing riding. The question is do I take a plunge on the DJi , order a Orbea Wild with this new motor or wait just a little longer to see what Specialized have up their sleeve 🧐
Specialized have an answer. But.... Bosch also do with new software coming soon..... :-) that's all.
Yes Bosch have a huge software update coming soon in accordance with their toptube display they think the software update will take the motor to around 100-110 NM 🤷♂️ specialised have teased they are about to drop a new Turbo Levo which will also be groundbreaking exciting time in the industry 😊
If Bosch Corporate was really interested in clawing back their ebike market dominance, they should try to buy DJI. Unfortunately, I don’t think a private Chinese company would sell to them. Fascinating
Hahaah I'm not sure the politics behind DJI is clear yet to the brands that do b2b. They will probably offer bikes with the system. However system diversification is a fundamental in today's market. Offer all types of motor
@@alexbiketester Dji doesn’t need other brands as much as other brands need DJI. That is the point of a primer brand like Amflo. It proofs Dji has access to quality frame production and the rest is sourcing the same components as the established brands. The big brands have no edge in quality since they all source from Asia anyway. Don’t you get it? Dji was sending a message: we can go it alone or with partners or both. And the industry heard it loud and clear. That is why videos such as this are frantically saturating social media in an attempt at damage control before the wave hits. Just watch. One big name will integrate the dji system in early 2025 and the rest will start signing contracts. But Bosch already knows this.
@@boulderghost4457 at last some intelligence. Couldn't agree more. So called big established brands are literally running around trying to justify their work, whilst a brand from nowhere has built a quality bike brand, using quality components to house their very own motor. It's the shakeup this industry needed.
Hi Alex (or anyone reading this who has any insight). I’m from the U.S. and I’m tempted to pull the trigger on the Spectral: ON CFR since the price is so competitive for components (all carbon, Di, 6.5k) - I’m not in a rush to get one - wonder if I should wait. I’m sure if I wait the price on new components will cost more. I’m not a pro - just an older fella (57) wanting to ride trails. Thoughts? Wait or pull the trigger - your opinion.
Shimano is coming in 2025. But nothing that will blow it away. The Bosch bikes are good, but again it's not going to change your life. Therefore it's a good option.
@@alexbiketester thanks for the advice my friend. I agree. I’m just an old man wanting to enjoy the last years of life - not a 18 year old wanting to crush the trails - although sometimes it’s fun to act like an 18 year old. Thanks again!
expect some attractive Black Friday deals in less than 6 weeks
@@grahamsmith9788 amen, brother. yeah I was thinking that this morning. The ON CFR has been as low at 6k in the states - currently at 6,599.00 - I think I’ll wait. If it goes up or sells out, oh well, I’m not in any rush. As they say in realestate, there’s a ‘deal of a lifetime every week.’ The green ON CFR is a sweet looking bike. Hope I can snag one. 1️⃣. Thanks, Alex!
The amount of cope videos flooding Utube with the title: Bosch CX , why it’s the best motor and why the better DJI is too good, probably unreliable, and should be illegal (until the rest of the industry catches up). Lol. Reminds me of Blackberry cope when the iPhone was released. Can’t wait to buy the new DJI and maybe I’ll buy a Bosch next year, at a STEEP discount!
I'm not coping. I fully researched everything and spoke about the DJI with the one person who has tried it in the world properly and the Bosch plus I've tried nearly all the other motors out their. So, check out all my other videos:-) I'm going to do a live sometime soon about this as it's a hot topic.... One thing that's important is that the business behind reliance and real world rules and also warranty and service for the systems takes time to build. You can disrupt and offer headline numbers, but it's not a mobile phone .... It's more complicated and expensive to do than that. New entrances have an uphill(pun intended) struggle to get to the level of Shimano or Bosch. Reality is there will be a small churn rate, but actually swapping systems whole sale and burning a whole brand and sector is not going to happen in a magic moment
@@alexbiketester 1-2 years and dji will have 2major brands. Triple that one year later. I suggest you demo the Dji motor. It’s next level. Dji software and motor efficiency is beyond anyone in the industry. You would be surprised at the deal’s incubating at eurobike Dji will disrupt more than you know on a brand relationship level as well as a product demand level. It’s just beginning. Bosch knows this and you can smell the panic. Shimano too. Shimano last minute software boost for the 801 is desperate and questionable considering their motors past issues. But hey keep pushing the incremental improvements until the can catch up to DJi. It’s not more complicated or expensive to do than a mobie phone but my analogy was simply about massive disruption. Dji is massively disrupting the industry and they know how to partner with well regarded American and European brands. Prime candidates like yeti, Santa Cruz, trek, transition, pivot, Ari, revel who need more reliable systems than fazua or Shimano will probably surprise next year. In the meantime you can tell it’s coming by the fury of “software upgrades” from everyone else.
@@alexbiketester this is Dji. An already incredibly successful, profitable and proven business. Their drones as used extensively, their cameras also. I bet you even use one yourself, like countless others. I think they shouldn't be underestimated in what they can do. Look what they have achieved already. They built a bike brand to showcase and show that they don't need anyone else. They expected Brands to respond like they have, they will have done their due diligence to run the course and back up what they have done.
@@shaneycarter8803 lets see how they run things. I just want to make sure as I do this job every day and have been on ebikes since 2010, that everyone knows they are using a lot of marketing....
so which motor is/was Gen5?
@@grahamsmith9788 the sx but not even, it refers more to the system.
Ie software and compatibility. The new motor is not backward compatible
Dji is leading the market now. Bosch have been forced into implementing these new additions to their system. Dli has this beaten on every point. Weight, assistance, application, technology and of course power. All backed up by the same 2 Yr industry standard warranty. None of what Bosch has now released is now new. They've released this without even the new built in display. Drip feeding it into the market so as not to upset the bikes still unsold with the gen 4 motors. Dji developed a bike from scratch to showcase their abilities. Bosch have been complacent and Dji is now the one to catch...... Literally 😊
I'm not sure complacent, but DJI is not as refined, they lack experience with the brands
.... That's the key. They have to play numbers catch up..... Sure a strong marketing start. Bikes have yet to ship. My only concern is the frames are too light....
@@alexbiketesternot as refined!?! Where is your product comparison video? Have you reviewed the DJI? Frame is too light?? Why, did you snap your demo frame? What are you on about?? Seriously, your credibility is gutter level. In the next 12 months, DJI will be a known commodity and then what excuse will you grapple at? Jeezus, as a publically traded corporate entity it’s bad enough to be beaten, but at least have the dignity to acknowledge your loss and go back to the drawing boards gracefully. Sorry, I was speaking to you as if you were representing Bosch in some way?
@@alexbiketester refinement is Dji strong point. They have covered the bike in sensors from their drone tech. Yaw sensors, elevation, angle etc. It uses a 42 point magnet pick up to constantly measure power assistance. Most still use just one. The battery is slimmer and more power dense. It charges quicker than any other. The screen is the most comprehensive and built in to the frame.
Then there's the motor that is quieter under load and more powerful, yet lighter.
The Amflow bike was built to blur the lines of full power and lightweight. I'm sure that this will be offered to full Enduro type builds. The bikes are going to sell out and be a surefire hit. Backed by quality retailers and warranties. Bosch are a great company but they should be leading this market, however Dji is leading the way. I have no concerns about reliability and back up. They are already a market leader with a proven track record.
@@shaneycarter8803 I'm pretty sure the amflow frame is an unknown quantity first. The DJI is not smoother than the Bosch.... Ask Danny from @mbr he's ridden both.
@@shaneycarter8803 objectivity is lacking in bike journalism so let's wait til I get one to try to see how they stack up....
The best motor in the market? Dji Is the best 😅
Hahahahahahah we will find out
@lamaswami- "DJI is the best " ?😂🤣
how is something the "Best " if you can't even buy it yet ???
Only AFTER a substantial number of bikes are sold and ridden for a year or more will we know what the bike is really like .
Will the frame hold up ?
will the motor overheat as stated by DJI when turbo is used too often ?
will the battery withstand all that fast charging .
will the difficult to remove battery become a pain in the A**
will there be a quick easy and vast service as bosch currently has , etc etc.
Remember this ,,,,, There is a vast difference /distinction between experience and understanding . DJI cannot currently be EXPERIENCED , it remains in the world of words and specs.
@@siriosstar4789until they can take the limit of 15.5 mph off the DJI motor and even up it to us setting, its gonna be like every other e bike motor, bored of it after a few months
@@siriosstar4789 dji service is exceptional and centers are right in the USA/Europe/Asia already. Dji has produced millions of electric motors and cutting edge battery packs. From the $500 drones taking out tanks in ukraine and Russia to $100,000 Agricultural drones, they know how to make reliable, efficient and power electric motors. Bosch is a trillion dollar megacorp that has millions of products but dji does one thing well, very well.
@@siriosstar4789 god your boring pal 😴