2 days on mine and I am in LOVE. They just do everything great, carves hard when you want, smears when you want, super playful and fun when you want, handles everything, even some powder as mentioned (I have big boys for proper powder days). So beyond happy i went with these. As always your reviews are the best, looking forward to stopping in next time i'm in Stowe.
Hi there i would like to know if they do well on really hard icy snow cos i consider of buying them and i am in between captis and faction dancer 1. Your answer would be helpful.
@@eniofotiswell they are certainly not designed for hard icy snow, if that's your primary condition go with something more directional, skinny and meant for carving.
@@SkiEssentialsSo I love these as mentioned, but now looking for a second mid 100 ski for the handful of deep days at Stowe. Considering the playmaker 101, rossi ti 104, ripstick 106 ect. Any thoughts?
I have a pair of 2017 Line Blends. I love how playful they are and they are super fun when the snow is fresh, but they can be a bit much when there hasn't been any snow for a few days. So I'm looking to get another pair of skis that still has that playfulness to it like my Blends, but can handle the entire mountain a little better when there hasn't been any recent snow. I ski a bit of everything...trees, steeps, moguls, and groomers and I mostly ski out west. I'm in between the Captis and Camox, and leaning a bit towards the Camox, but wondering if they would be too similar to my Blends? I'd have the Blends to ski when the snow is fresh and then this new pair of skis to use when it's not. What would you recommend? Appreciate all the work you guys put into these videos.
I think going narrower to the Captis makes good sense. You'll get a boost in on-trail performance for sure due to the added stiffness without losing much in terms of playfulness. If you're planning on keeping the Blend for softer snow, then I'd lean to the Captis for all other days. have fun! SE
Thanks, I appreciate the review and am considering ordering the Black Crows Captis. On your website, you show the option to buy the combined ski with the Marker Attach 13 bindings. I was wondering if there is a reason why you chose the Marker bindings rather than the Tyrolia Attack. It seems that I have generally read more positive views on the Tyrolia Attack so I wanted to understand whether you paired it with the Marker bindings because you think (or Black Crows recommends) the Market bindings for that ski. Thanks
For us, it's all about inventory and keeping prices as low as possible. We basically view the Griffon and the Attack as the same when it comes to performance. I personally think the Attack is easier to step in and get out of, and the heel of the binding is a metal rail vs. a plastic one of the Griffon.
Great review. All about this ski seems perfect for me. The only problem is that i dont ski that often so i dont want to pay that much for skis. Which ski comes the closest to the Captis while being more affordable. I drive really agressive and I weigh 80kg at 188cm
Thank you for your fantastic reviews! Just recently bought a pair of 2024 Black Crows Mirus Cor 178cm. Only two days on them so far, but love the experience thus far. Considering another ski to complement the Mirus Cor. Anything in particular you would recommend? Serpo? Captis? Non-Black Crows skis like Stokli Montero AX? I'm 6'2" 170 lbs somewhere between intermediate and expert (probably low end expert, if that's a thing). 80% on piste...enjoy exploring the whole mountain when the snow is good. Previously skied Mantra M5 177cm (chose the Mirus Cor to have something fun at somewhat slower speeds than the Mantra asked for to ski with my young children). Thanks again for you time and consideration!!!
If you're 80% on piste I'd look to something a bit more in line with that, and the Montero comes to the front of that discussion. I'd basically look narrower than what you have now as I feel the Mirus Cor is an exceptional adventure ski as well as a fun carver. Going more performance oriented makes sense, and something like the AX or the Rossignol Experience 82 aren't too demanding for skiing with kids.
Captis vs Serpo vs Atomic Maverick 86 C. Trying to decide between these three. I’d say I’m an intermediate level skier and usually stick to blues in New England but would want to advance myself every season. I love to carve and hence like having a good edge angle. I am leaning more towards Captis due to its versatility but would like your input! TIA
The Captis is certainly the most fun and playful, but if you're loving the carve and higher angles, I'd look more to the Serpo. It's a bit stiffer than the Captis, and has a flatter tail with less rocker so it engages into and out of the turns a lot more directly. Atomic does this too, but at a lighter weight, so if you're looking for agility and maneuverability, the Atomic is fantastic. While the Serpo may be on the stiffer side for your current ability, it also offers the most room for growth.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Captis vs Playmaker 91. Use would be all mountain, playful side hits, light on your feet, and just a little park curious. 6’, 180 lb skier. I’d go with the Playmaker in 180 cm, but am concerned the Captis in 178 may be too short so strongly considering the 184. I’d be grateful to get your thoughts on moving the mount point just 2-3 cm forward. Many thanks.
Captis feels more substantial than the Playmaker, which is just incredibly light and mobile. If you're looking for a bit of a boost when it comes to performance, the Captis has more to offer. We've found these skis work great on the intended line, and I'd go 178 with the Captis.
Great video! Im considering these or the bent 90s. I’m 183 cm and like 96 kgs. I mostly do groomers however also love to play around in trees and jump a little. Im somewhere between intermediate and advanced I would say. I’m torn between these and the atomic bent 90s, what would you recommend? I’m probably going to get the 184 length.
I think if you're mostly on groomers, the Captis has more to offer. The Bent is a bit lighter and more playful, but doesn't quite stand up to on-trail skiing as competently as the Captis.
Nice review, as always. Your channel is very helpful! I recently bought the Salomon QST 98 and concidering a switch to a slightly more narrow ski, cause Im not 100% satisfied how these skiis perform while carving. I believe its a better allround/all mountain ski out there for this task? Would you say Captis is a better ski in that regard?
I love the Captis! it's a very well-built twin tip with a lot more capabilities than just freestyle, although it is very playful as well. We found it to carve great with good torsional stiffness and energy out of the turn. If you want to go a bit more directional, check out the Salomon Stance 90 or the Dynastar M-Pro 90 for this application.
Hi great review! Which binding do you suggest with these? I’m planning to buy these. I’m 172cm tall and 66kg. Looking for something with great quality for a long time, Tyrolia attack was looking nice with the green ones. Thanks!
@SkiEssentials Love the review! I own a pairr of Rossignol Sender 104's. Would these be a good second pair to have that will complement my Sender 104's? Something more playful, easier to carve, and better in trees and bumps off the side of the slopes? Thank you!
Yup, love the Captis! There's a nice quality feel to it that is hard to replicate. I think they have great grip and energy for a twin tip, and you also get the fun multi-directional feeling that makes creative skiing so incredibly rewarding.
These skis sound perfect and fun. What is the difference between these and the captis birdies? I weigh 140lbs without gear and try to charge. Will I be okay on the birides?
Hello awsome work with the channel guys. Im trying to decide between the captis and camox. Do you have any tips on how to choose the better once? maybe some major differences?
They're pretty similar overall, with the main difference being the width. Build-wise, the Camox has a bit more energy and pop to it from the camber and the sidewall underfoot, but the Captis is more consistent from tip to tail. This highlights the Captis' freestyle prowess while the Camox gets more pop and power in the turns. The width makes Camox more versatile when it comes to soft snow, trees, and crud while Captis is a fantastic mogul ski that's super agile and fun.
Thank you for the review! I've been looking for a similar ski to this, playful and fun but also something that can go well on groomed & the twin tips of course. Do you think there is a better ski to this one based on what I am looking for?
I think you are perfectly describing the Captis. There's no need to go further, but you could also check out the Atomic Bent 90 or the Dynastar M-Free 90 for similar performance and application. Have fun! SE
Great video. I've watched a lot of your videos over the last week! I found your video of the Mindbender 90ti and would love to have a ski like that as a twin tip I'm looking for an all mountain ski for piste/off 80/20. I find the Captis and mirus cor very interesting. Which one would you recommend? Or are both skis not suitable?
Thanks! Captis is interesting. I'd add the Elan Playmaker 91 and the Head Oblivion 84 to that list as great all-mountain twins. The Oblivion is more like the Captis in that it's a sturdier ski while the Playmaker is lighter and more flexible but still a ton of fun.
Captis vs Camox? first full season in Colorado, intermediate level mostly sticking to blues and a few blacks, mainly groomers but like to snake around trees a bit and want something that is easy to turn and can do small jumps, thinking Atris would be overkill but worry about power days with 90 mm underfoot ... thoughts?
If you're mainly groomers and are looking to expand your adventure zone, I think the Camox is the way to go. Great Colorado width and shape, slotting itself right in the middle of any and all possible outcomes.
Whats the difference between the 2023 and 2024 models? I'm 6'0" and am interested in the captis but also considering the Bent 90s. I'm an intermediate/advanced level skier that loves to ski everything from on to off piste, trees, and the park. What ski and length would you suggest?
Just graphics! I think there's a higher ceiling with the Captis. The Bent is so much fun and so incredibly playful while the Captis is stiffer and more responsive. I'd look t the mid-170's in length.
I'd give a slight edge to the QST 92. It has carbon and flax stringers that add to the stiffness, and this equates to grip, especially on firmer snow. Love the Captis, but it's not quite as poppy or grippy as the QST.
Ski 104 free in 179 at 6’ 210lbs and advanced skier. Considering 176 in QST 92, but is 178 too short here for Captis or should consider 184 for second quiver for Nordica? Thanks in advance!
Tyringe to decide between the Black Crowe Capris and Atomic Bengt 100? I want a playful ski that I can ride in slope but also on the side of the slopes. I want to be able to do some park as well. I want to be able to ride the skis for years and still be able to advance my skiing and have fun. I want it to be stable when I ride faster in slope but still playfull and fun.
I've had nothing but positive experiences on the Captis--tough to overlook that one. The Bent 100 is a great tree and powder ski, but the Captis has more to offer in terms of on and off-trail capabilities and park.
Bit of a long one here which do you recommend out of Captis, Vertis, K2 Mindbender 90C and Salomon qst 98 that’s my shortlist I have but I can’t decide! I ski in Europe mainly on piste but go off piste when there’s fresh powder. I’m 183cm and weigh 65kg your advice would be great!😂
I do think the QST 98 is one of the best skis out here for off-piste and powder. The Captis is a good narrower/more playful option, but I think that if you're looking for softer snow performance, the QST 98 is the way to go. I'd say 183 is ideal because they ski a bit shorter due to the shorter radius and more dramatic taper and rocker.
Looking for advice between the Captis 172 or Camox 174. Want to add a ski that is not overly stiff that I can ski the groomers, take thru the bumps. Probably won't be in the woods all too often but want I ski I can maneuver. I ski mostly in Maine and my regular ski is Volkl Kendo in 170. Also have Black OPS Sender (104) in a 178 for the powder days. Don't like the feel of the Sender on the open groomer bc of the width. Advanced skier 5'10" 178lb. Thanks
I think the move to the Camox makes good sense here unless you want to focus on the bumps more. Camox does fine, but Captis is pretty darn good. I'd go 174 in that Camox.
Great review! I’m thinking about getting the Captis but I would like to know if they do well on really hard icy snow. I’m an intermediate skier, I slide down black pistes confidently because I’m used to ski mountaineering, even though I’m not the most skillful skier. I’ve got a pair of Movement Pop at the moment. I love going off piste but since we don’t usually get huge snowfalls we end up skiing on hard snow. I’m a 160 cm tall woman and weigh 53 kg. I’m thinking of getting them on the size 156. My Movement are size 150 (waist 85, radius 13) and I handle them pretty well. I am looking for something that can perform better on powder but still do well on really hard snow. Safety’s a priority for me. I’d really appreciate your advice. Thanks
There are better skis for really icy snow, but like for most things, it's all about compromise. This ski is a decent mix of soft and hard snow performance, but since it's a twin tip, you will lose a bit of edge grip at the end of the turn. For a grippier ski at about 90 mm underfoot maybe wider. I'd check out something like the Salomon QST 92 or the Volkl Blaze 94. Still light, floaty, and fun, but with a flatter tail for better firm snow performance.
They are too long for me I’m afraid, I’m only 160 and the smallest Serpo are 168. When I took the Black Crow test the recommendation for me was the Serpo and the Camox. The smallest Camox are 156 so that suits me better. Black Crows are for big ladies 😅 With 97 at the waist I thought that the Camox could make carving more be difficult. What do you think? Thanks a lot for your advice
I'm 188cm, 85kg and a beginner. Which size would you recommend? I'm having my eye put onto 184. Are they too long for beginners? The twin tip should increase the turnability, right?
That will result in a more freestyle-oriented mount point for sure. You're getting a bit ahead of the camber so it will jeopardize the all-mountain versatility.
Hey Guys, we would like to buy these for my brother in law. He’s 6’1,155 lbs and an intermediate/advanced skier. He would like to use it as an allmountain ski and for his first steps in the park. His Daily Driver is the Head V Shape V8 in 177. Which length should we get 178 or 184? Appreciate your help.
Hi i'm trying to decide between Black Crows Captis, Atomic Bent 85/90, Faction Prodigy 1 or Armada Arv 86, i'm 85kg X 180cm, my use is 60% slope, 30% park, 10% powder, i want stable ski in high speed thanx
If you're looking to be a bit more aggressive and fast, I think the 184 is fine, but in general, your stats point to the 178--I don't think that'll be too short.
Can’t decide if I need these or the ripstick 88s in my life! Really struggling to determine which is the best, most versatile ski! I want something maneuverable and comfortable as I approach advanced level skiing on more heavy and double blacks from upper intermediate on the lower single blacks. Please advise!
The Ripstick is a better turner and carver. It's lighter, too, while the Captis is a bit less poppy and energetic with a more sturdy feel. I'd say the Ripstick will give you a fantastic chance at success in your voyage through the advanced level.
i’m 180cm/5’11” and weigh 75kg/165lbs, intermediate to advanced skier, do i go with the 178s? i’ve only ever skied w rentals and longest i’ve skied with is 168s but i know that’s quite short
I'd go with the 172 here. I don't think you need to reach to the 178 based on your stats and application, and these skis are more stout and sturdy than rentals, so they'll still feel and ski longer than the 168's you've had. Have fun!
Amazing review, Im searching for a low 90mm ski that can carve as well as perform off-piste (50% slope and 50% freeride). Im currently looking at the Captis, QST 92, Season Aero, and Bent 90. Which would you recommend out of the 4, and is there any other ski you would recommend over these? (preferably a twin tip)
And also would you recomend I go for a 90mm ski so that I can still carve well, or is that not versatile enough for off-piste? (I'll mostly be skiing in Canada and Europe)
90 is a pretty sweet spot for carving and off piste. I can't speak to the Aero, since we haven't skied Season, but I bet it's kind of a far cry from Bent which is a lot more flexible. Captis and QST are more substantial than Bent as well, for that matter. I've had a great experience on the Captis as that feels like an excellent choice in the 90 mm all-mountain twin category. QST lacks the twin tip, but makes up for it with incredible versatility, flotation, and ease of use. On your list, I'd go with the Captis as it fits all of your criteria.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you, do you think it would be better if I go with the 97mm Camox? Or should I stick to the 90mm Captis with the full-length sidewall for better carving?
@@rayan3797I'd stay Captis. It's amazing how versatile a 90 mm ski is these days without having to go too much wider, especially if carving is still at the top of your list.
Captis is one of the stiffer twin tips out there, so it's not as easy as something like an Elan Playmaker 91 or a Line TW Pro, but it does have better all-mountain performance than a lot of other ~90 mm twins.
Considerably more camber in the Vertis, giving it more energy in a shorter swing turn. If you spend your time on trail and in a carved turn, the Vertis is going to align better with your application. For off-piste, bumps, trees, and park, the Captis is way more useful and versatile. The build is pretty similar, so you're getting the same overall ski, just the shape, profile, and application varies pretty greatly given the 5 mm of width difference.
Hi because i am really concerned of how the behave in firmer/ icy snow espcially on black pistes can you elaborate why they are disappointing it that manner?
They just don’t hold a good edge on really icy conditions Maybe it’s the lack of effective edge for the length I have bc of the twin rocker - They are a fun ski I enjoy them very much Otherwise Just not my go to when the conditions are very firm
Well the dancer 1s are a nice resort ski they are stiffer (have metal in them) have a good edge hold Pretty stable ski I think they suffer a bit in more variable conditions Like chop or softer stuff where the Captis bc of its shape does better The captis is an easy ski Fun playful easy to turn Hope this helps
The Black Crows are terrible skis! I have the Daemons 170 for 4 years now. First year, the top laminate began to chip…everywhere! I contacted the company and was told I ski to aggressively for the ski. How did that customer service intern know how I ski. Fast forward to two weeks ago. The skis then split at the underfoot creating a gap where you could see clean through to the other side of the ski, under the binding!!!! They are not reliable and are a liability on the mountain. Oh and I am expert freestyle skiing started at age 3. Don’t buy them!!!!!!!!
Sorry you had a bad experience with them! We have not experienced much in the way of durability issues with Black Crows, at least not more so than other brands.
2 days on mine and I am in LOVE. They just do everything great, carves hard when you want, smears when you want, super playful and fun when you want, handles everything, even some powder as mentioned (I have big boys for proper powder days). So beyond happy i went with these. As always your reviews are the best, looking forward to stopping in next time i'm in Stowe.
Right on!
Hi there i would like to know if they do well on really hard icy snow cos i consider of buying them and i am in between captis and faction dancer 1. Your answer would be helpful.
@@eniofotiswell they are certainly not designed for hard icy snow, if that's your primary condition go with something more directional, skinny and meant for carving.
@@SkiEssentialsSo I love these as mentioned, but now looking for a second mid 100 ski for the handful of deep days at Stowe. Considering the playmaker 101, rossi ti 104, ripstick 106 ect. Any thoughts?
I have a pair of 2017 Line Blends. I love how playful they are and they are super fun when the snow is fresh, but they can be a bit much when there hasn't been any snow for a few days. So I'm looking to get another pair of skis that still has that playfulness to it like my Blends, but can handle the entire mountain a little better when there hasn't been any recent snow.
I ski a bit of everything...trees, steeps, moguls, and groomers and I mostly ski out west. I'm in between the Captis and Camox, and leaning a bit towards the Camox, but wondering if they would be too similar to my Blends? I'd have the Blends to ski when the snow is fresh and then this new pair of skis to use when it's not. What would you recommend? Appreciate all the work you guys put into these videos.
I think going narrower to the Captis makes good sense. You'll get a boost in on-trail performance for sure due to the added stiffness without losing much in terms of playfulness. If you're planning on keeping the Blend for softer snow, then I'd lean to the Captis for all other days. have fun!
SE
Thanks, I appreciate the review and am considering ordering the Black Crows Captis. On your website, you show the option to buy the combined ski with the Marker Attach 13 bindings. I was wondering if there is a reason why you chose the Marker bindings rather than the Tyrolia Attack. It seems that I have generally read more positive views on the Tyrolia Attack so I wanted to understand whether you paired it with the Marker bindings because you think (or Black Crows recommends) the Market bindings for that ski. Thanks
For us, it's all about inventory and keeping prices as low as possible. We basically view the Griffon and the Attack as the same when it comes to performance. I personally think the Attack is easier to step in and get out of, and the heel of the binding is a metal rail vs. a plastic one of the Griffon.
Great review. All about this ski seems perfect for me. The only problem is that i dont ski that often so i dont want to pay that much for skis. Which ski comes the closest to the Captis while being more affordable. I drive really agressive and I weigh 80kg at 188cm
I'd check out the Nordica Unleashed 90. Similar footprint to the Captis but less money!
Thank you for your fantastic reviews! Just recently bought a pair of 2024 Black Crows Mirus Cor 178cm. Only two days on them so far, but love the experience thus far. Considering another ski to complement the Mirus Cor. Anything in particular you would recommend? Serpo? Captis? Non-Black Crows skis like Stokli Montero AX? I'm 6'2" 170 lbs somewhere between intermediate and expert (probably low end expert, if that's a thing). 80% on piste...enjoy exploring the whole mountain when the snow is good. Previously skied Mantra M5 177cm (chose the Mirus Cor to have something fun at somewhat slower speeds than the Mantra asked for to ski with my young children). Thanks again for you time and consideration!!!
If you're 80% on piste I'd look to something a bit more in line with that, and the Montero comes to the front of that discussion. I'd basically look narrower than what you have now as I feel the Mirus Cor is an exceptional adventure ski as well as a fun carver. Going more performance oriented makes sense, and something like the AX or the Rossignol Experience 82 aren't too demanding for skiing with kids.
Captis vs Serpo vs Atomic Maverick 86 C. Trying to decide between these three. I’d say I’m an intermediate level skier and usually stick to blues in New England but would want to advance myself every season. I love to carve and hence like having a good edge angle. I am leaning more towards Captis due to its versatility but would like your input! TIA
The Captis is certainly the most fun and playful, but if you're loving the carve and higher angles, I'd look more to the Serpo. It's a bit stiffer than the Captis, and has a flatter tail with less rocker so it engages into and out of the turns a lot more directly. Atomic does this too, but at a lighter weight, so if you're looking for agility and maneuverability, the Atomic is fantastic. While the Serpo may be on the stiffer side for your current ability, it also offers the most room for growth.
Would love to hear your thoughts on the Captis vs Playmaker 91. Use would be all mountain, playful side hits, light on your feet, and just a little park curious. 6’, 180 lb skier. I’d go with the Playmaker in 180 cm, but am concerned the Captis in 178 may be too short so strongly considering the 184. I’d be grateful to get your thoughts on moving the mount point just 2-3 cm forward. Many thanks.
Captis feels more substantial than the Playmaker, which is just incredibly light and mobile. If you're looking for a bit of a boost when it comes to performance, the Captis has more to offer. We've found these skis work great on the intended line, and I'd go 178 with the Captis.
Great video! Im considering these or the bent 90s. I’m 183 cm and like 96 kgs. I mostly do groomers however also love to play around in trees and jump a little. Im somewhere between intermediate and advanced I would say. I’m torn between these and the atomic bent 90s, what would you recommend? I’m probably going to get the 184 length.
I think if you're mostly on groomers, the Captis has more to offer. The Bent is a bit lighter and more playful, but doesn't quite stand up to on-trail skiing as competently as the Captis.
Nice review, as always. Your channel is very helpful! I recently bought the Salomon QST 98 and concidering a switch to a slightly more narrow ski, cause Im not 100% satisfied how these skiis perform while carving. I believe its a better allround/all mountain ski out there for this task? Would you say Captis is a better ski in that regard?
I love the Captis! it's a very well-built twin tip with a lot more capabilities than just freestyle, although it is very playful as well. We found it to carve great with good torsional stiffness and energy out of the turn. If you want to go a bit more directional, check out the Salomon Stance 90 or the Dynastar M-Pro 90 for this application.
Hi great review! Which binding do you suggest with these? I’m planning to buy these.
I’m 172cm tall and 66kg. Looking for something with great quality for a long time,
Tyrolia attack was looking nice with the green ones.
Thanks!
www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-black-crows-captis-skis-w-marker-griffon-13?ski%2520size=172
@SkiEssentials Love the review! I own a pairr of Rossignol Sender 104's. Would these be a good second pair to have that will complement my Sender 104's? Something more playful, easier to carve, and better in trees and bumps off the side of the slopes? Thank you!
Yup, love the Captis! There's a nice quality feel to it that is hard to replicate. I think they have great grip and energy for a twin tip, and you also get the fun multi-directional feeling that makes creative skiing so incredibly rewarding.
These skis sound perfect and fun. What is the difference between these and the captis birdies? I weigh 140lbs without gear and try to charge. Will I be okay on the birides?
Zero difference other than graphics and size availability.
Hello awsome work with the channel guys. Im trying to decide between the captis and camox. Do you have any tips on how to choose the better once? maybe some major differences?
They're pretty similar overall, with the main difference being the width. Build-wise, the Camox has a bit more energy and pop to it from the camber and the sidewall underfoot, but the Captis is more consistent from tip to tail. This highlights the Captis' freestyle prowess while the Camox gets more pop and power in the turns. The width makes Camox more versatile when it comes to soft snow, trees, and crud while Captis is a fantastic mogul ski that's super agile and fun.
@@SkiEssentials thx that was very helpfull
Thank you for the review! I've been looking for a similar ski to this, playful and fun but also something that can go well on groomed & the twin tips of course. Do you think there is a better ski to this one based on what I am looking for?
I think you are perfectly describing the Captis. There's no need to go further, but you could also check out the Atomic Bent 90 or the Dynastar M-Free 90 for similar performance and application. Have fun!
SE
@@SkiEssentials Thank you very much!
Great video. I've watched a lot of your videos over the last week!
I found your video of the Mindbender 90ti and would love to have a ski like that as a twin tip
I'm looking for an all mountain ski for piste/off 80/20. I find the Captis and mirus cor very interesting. Which one would you recommend? Or are both skis not suitable?
Thanks! Captis is interesting. I'd add the Elan Playmaker 91 and the Head Oblivion 84 to that list as great all-mountain twins. The Oblivion is more like the Captis in that it's a sturdier ski while the Playmaker is lighter and more flexible but still a ton of fun.
Captis vs Camox? first full season in Colorado, intermediate level mostly sticking to blues and a few blacks, mainly groomers but like to snake around trees a bit and want something that is easy to turn and can do small jumps, thinking Atris would be overkill but worry about power days with 90 mm underfoot ... thoughts?
If you're mainly groomers and are looking to expand your adventure zone, I think the Camox is the way to go. Great Colorado width and shape, slotting itself right in the middle of any and all possible outcomes.
Whats the difference between the 2023 and 2024 models? I'm 6'0" and am interested in the captis but also considering the Bent 90s. I'm an intermediate/advanced level skier that loves to ski everything from on to off piste, trees, and the park. What ski and length would you suggest?
Just graphics! I think there's a higher ceiling with the Captis. The Bent is so much fun and so incredibly playful while the Captis is stiffer and more responsive. I'd look t the mid-170's in length.
trying to decide between this and the qst 92. Which one of these is better at carving/ holding edge ? love the videos!
I'd give a slight edge to the QST 92. It has carbon and flax stringers that add to the stiffness, and this equates to grip, especially on firmer snow. Love the Captis, but it's not quite as poppy or grippy as the QST.
Ski 104 free in 179 at 6’ 210lbs and advanced skier. Considering 176 in QST 92, but is 178 too short here for Captis or should consider 184 for second quiver for Nordica? Thanks in advance!
Tyringe to decide between the Black Crowe Capris and Atomic Bengt 100? I want a playful ski that I can ride in slope but also on the side of the slopes. I want to be able to do some park as well. I want to be able to ride the skis for years and still be able to advance my skiing and have fun. I want it to be stable when I ride faster in slope but still playfull and fun.
I've had nothing but positive experiences on the Captis--tough to overlook that one. The Bent 100 is a great tree and powder ski, but the Captis has more to offer in terms of on and off-trail capabilities and park.
Bit of a long one here which do you recommend out of Captis, Vertis, K2 Mindbender 90C and Salomon qst 98 that’s my shortlist I have but I can’t decide! I ski in Europe mainly on piste but go off piste when there’s fresh powder. I’m 183cm and weigh 65kg your advice would be great!😂
I do think the QST 98 is one of the best skis out here for off-piste and powder. The Captis is a good narrower/more playful option, but I think that if you're looking for softer snow performance, the QST 98 is the way to go. I'd say 183 is ideal because they ski a bit shorter due to the shorter radius and more dramatic taper and rocker.
Looking for advice between the Captis 172 or Camox 174. Want to add a ski that is not overly stiff that I can ski the groomers, take thru the bumps. Probably won't be in the woods all too often but want I ski I can maneuver. I ski mostly in Maine and my regular ski is Volkl Kendo in 170. Also have Black OPS Sender (104) in a 178 for the powder days. Don't like the feel of the Sender on the open groomer bc of the width. Advanced skier 5'10" 178lb. Thanks
I think the move to the Camox makes good sense here unless you want to focus on the bumps more. Camox does fine, but Captis is pretty darn good. I'd go 174 in that Camox.
Great review! I’m thinking about getting the Captis but I would like to know if they do well on really hard icy snow. I’m an intermediate skier, I slide down black pistes confidently because I’m used to ski mountaineering, even though I’m not the most skillful skier. I’ve got a pair of Movement Pop at the moment. I love going off piste but since we don’t usually get huge snowfalls we end up skiing on hard snow. I’m a 160 cm tall woman and weigh 53 kg. I’m thinking of getting them on the size 156. My Movement are size 150 (waist 85, radius 13) and I handle them pretty well. I am looking for something that can perform better on powder but still do well on really hard snow. Safety’s a priority for me.
I’d really appreciate your advice. Thanks
There are better skis for really icy snow, but like for most things, it's all about compromise. This ski is a decent mix of soft and hard snow performance, but since it's a twin tip, you will lose a bit of edge grip at the end of the turn. For a grippier ski at about 90 mm underfoot maybe wider. I'd check out something like the Salomon QST 92 or the Volkl Blaze 94. Still light, floaty, and fun, but with a flatter tail for better firm snow performance.
Thanks a lot! Nothing that you can recommend in Black crows?
@@marisaarauzo Serpo is probably your best Crows Bet if you're looking for good grip and decent softer snow performance!
They are too long for me I’m afraid, I’m only 160 and the smallest Serpo are 168. When I took the Black Crow test the recommendation for me was the Serpo and the Camox. The smallest Camox are 156 so that suits me better. Black Crows are for big ladies 😅
With 97 at the waist I thought that the Camox could make carving more be difficult. What do you think? Thanks a lot for your advice
Thanks for the review! Im about to buy the Captis but i cant decide between 172 vs 178. Im 180cm - 80kg and love to ride fast. Any advice?
You sound like a 178 Captis skier to me, especially if you're in search of speed.
I'm 188cm, 85kg and a beginner. Which size would you recommend? I'm having my eye put onto 184. Are they too long for beginners? The twin tip should increase the turnability, right?
The twin tip helps for sure, I think that the 178 will be better for the first few years if you are progressing and learning.
Opinion on mounting the Captis in 184cm 2-3cm forward from factory?
That will result in a more freestyle-oriented mount point for sure. You're getting a bit ahead of the camber so it will jeopardize the all-mountain versatility.
Hey Guys,
we would like to buy these for my brother in law.
He’s 6’1,155 lbs and an intermediate/advanced skier.
He would like to use it as an allmountain ski and for his first steps in the park.
His Daily Driver is the Head V Shape V8 in 177.
Which length should we get 178 or 184?
Appreciate your help.
I think 178 is the way to go based on his stats and application. Have fun, great skis!
Hi, i am 183cm tall and ski mostly on piste, do you think this ski will be good for me in the 178 cm lenght?
Yup! Great skis, super fun both on and off-trail. Sizing sounds right!
Hi i'm trying to decide between Black Crows Captis, Atomic Bent 85/90, Faction Prodigy 1 or Armada Arv 86, i'm 85kg X 180cm, my use is 60% slope, 30% park, 10% powder, i want stable ski in high speed thanx
I'd go with the Captis. The ski has a nice blend of sturdiness and energy, making it stable at speed as well as versatile for more playful use.
For 185cm/80kg what size would be good, the 178cm or the 184cm?
If you're looking to be a bit more aggressive and fast, I think the 184 is fine, but in general, your stats point to the 178--I don't think that'll be too short.
Can’t decide if I need these or the ripstick 88s in my life! Really struggling to determine which is the best, most versatile ski! I want something maneuverable and comfortable as I approach advanced level skiing on more heavy and double blacks from upper intermediate on the lower single blacks. Please advise!
The Ripstick is a better turner and carver. It's lighter, too, while the Captis is a bit less poppy and energetic with a more sturdy feel. I'd say the Ripstick will give you a fantastic chance at success in your voyage through the advanced level.
@@SkiEssentials do you think they’re good enough for occasional light powder? I ski in park city a bit often when I’m not in the North East.
Yup! Worst case scenario: it snows. @@dross1880
@@SkiEssentials you guys are awesome. Just purchased a bunch of stuff from you because of the customer service. Thank you!
i’m 180cm/5’11” and weigh 75kg/165lbs, intermediate to advanced skier, do i go with the 178s? i’ve only ever skied w rentals and longest i’ve skied with is 168s but i know that’s quite short
I'd go with the 172 here. I don't think you need to reach to the 178 based on your stats and application, and these skis are more stout and sturdy than rentals, so they'll still feel and ski longer than the 168's you've had. Have fun!
Amazing review, Im searching for a low 90mm ski that can carve as well as perform off-piste (50% slope and 50% freeride). Im currently looking at the Captis, QST 92, Season Aero, and Bent 90. Which would you recommend out of the 4, and is there any other ski you would recommend over these? (preferably a twin tip)
And also would you recomend I go for a 90mm ski so that I can still carve well, or is that not versatile enough for off-piste? (I'll mostly be skiing in Canada and Europe)
90 is a pretty sweet spot for carving and off piste. I can't speak to the Aero, since we haven't skied Season, but I bet it's kind of a far cry from Bent which is a lot more flexible. Captis and QST are more substantial than Bent as well, for that matter. I've had a great experience on the Captis as that feels like an excellent choice in the 90 mm all-mountain twin category. QST lacks the twin tip, but makes up for it with incredible versatility, flotation, and ease of use. On your list, I'd go with the Captis as it fits all of your criteria.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you, do you think it would be better if I go with the 97mm Camox? Or should I stick to the 90mm Captis with the full-length sidewall for better carving?
@@rayan3797I'd stay Captis. It's amazing how versatile a 90 mm ski is these days without having to go too much wider, especially if carving is still at the top of your list.
Curious that is it easy to do Butter & Ollie with Captis?
Captis is one of the stiffer twin tips out there, so it's not as easy as something like an Elan Playmaker 91 or a Line TW Pro, but it does have better all-mountain performance than a lot of other ~90 mm twins.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks, just bought the last Captis demo ski (172cm) from your website.. lol!
Captis vs Vertis?
Considerably more camber in the Vertis, giving it more energy in a shorter swing turn. If you spend your time on trail and in a carved turn, the Vertis is going to align better with your application. For off-piste, bumps, trees, and park, the Captis is way more useful and versatile. The build is pretty similar, so you're getting the same overall ski, just the shape, profile, and application varies pretty greatly given the 5 mm of width difference.
@@SkiEssentials ok thanks! I have the Camox so looking for something more on piste!
These are a fun ski no doubt and can do many things
But they really struggle on ice/crust Actually a little disappointing but otherwise great fun
Fair feedback!
Hi because i am really concerned of how the behave in firmer/ icy snow espcially on black pistes can you elaborate why they are disappointing it that manner?
They just don’t hold a good edge on really icy conditions Maybe it’s the lack of effective edge for the length I have bc of the twin rocker - They are a fun ski I enjoy them very much
Otherwise Just not my go to when the conditions are very firm
@@KA-ne2et ok very good feedback thank you. I am really in a dilemma between those and faction dancer 1
Well the dancer 1s are a nice resort ski they are stiffer (have metal in them) have a good edge hold Pretty stable ski I think they suffer a bit in more variable conditions Like chop or softer stuff where the Captis bc of its shape does better
The captis is an easy ski Fun playful easy to turn
Hope this helps
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The Black Crows are terrible skis! I have the Daemons 170 for 4 years now. First year, the top laminate began to chip…everywhere! I contacted the company and was told I ski to aggressively for the ski. How did that customer service intern know how I ski. Fast forward to two weeks ago. The skis then split at the underfoot creating a gap where you could see clean through to the other side of the ski, under the binding!!!! They are not reliable and are a liability on the mountain. Oh and I am expert freestyle skiing started at age 3. Don’t buy them!!!!!!!!
Sorry you had a bad experience with them! We have not experienced much in the way of durability issues with Black Crows, at least not more so than other brands.