For moguls, trees and generally uneven terrain where you're looking for air, would you recommend the camox, captis, one of the hesd oblivions or one of the prodigies (as you can see, I am super undecided)? Looking to snag one with all the season end sales running. Thanks - love your content!
Camox is my answer here--great at the trees and variable conditions and terrain. I'd rather ski the Captis in firm bumps, but that's about it. Camox does it all.
I demoed this ski on Monday at Sugarbush and I really liked it. I'm currently skiing the Maverick 88Ti and with 100 days on it I'm still happy. I'm looking to have 2 skis going forward and shopping for the wider one. I'm in the process of shifting the majority of my skiing from groomers into natural terrain when conditions allow and love low/mid angle trees that hold snow. I'm sold on Black Crows, the feel was great. Both solid and really fun. My only question is whether there is a better option for me that isn't a twin tip. I won't be skiing backwards or doing any tricks, but I do like the easy tail release. Is the Serpo still a good all mountain choice for soft snow and trees, and going out west? Do I throw out convention and try a Mirus Cor and pair it with a more traditional 95-100mm all mountain ski like a Maverick or Ripstick? Looking at Black Crows is a new twist in my thinking but I think after one day I might be hooked.
You don't need to ski backwards to own and love a twin tip. I've been doing it for 25 years. I would follow your current path and not mix it up with the Mirus Cor--that is a unique ski that can/should be obtained but not thought of as a one and only. It might end up being that, but it's a gamble.
Coming from the Rossignol Experience 82 Ti, I'm looking for a ski that can carve well, but also invites me to be more playful on the groomers and jumping on side hits here in Europe. Trying out 180s and skiing switch, but at the same time being able to push for a high speed carve when the surroundings allow for it. Black Crows Camox, Serpo or Justis? Or other (brands)? Would you put Look Pivot's on them? I was a bit bored with the Rossignols and looking to expand the bandwidth of capabilities without losing too much performance. Hope that makes sense :)
You will likely not be bored on the Serpo--that ski has energy to spare. Camox is great, but not quite as sturdy as the Serpo. Justis is one of my all-time favorite skis, but it is on the stiff side of the spectrum. I'd say a Serpo with a Pivot would do the trick just fine.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks. I've heard you say that a few times about the Justis. What exactly makes it one of your favourites? The speed it can handle, the skiing style that you get from skiing on it or the options it gives you? Putting a Pivot on a Justis might make it harder to put on its edges or not? Wouldn't a Salomon Warden/STH2 or Look SPX 12 be a better choice for a recreational skier?
I’ve watch quite a few of these videos, trying to figure out if I could go something like the camox, captis or the bent 90 or 100s, I mainly like skiing glades and in the trees and want to be able to move around and do some tricks. Basically make the mountain my playground. We don’t get much powder where I am but I travel to BC to ski once a year what do you think would be my best option?
I think there's a lot to like about the Captis for your application. Nice grip, good mobility in trees and bumps, and the twin tip is great for tricks and creativity. The Bent 90 does a lot of the same, but the ski is lighter and more flexible. This'll lead to slightly better flotation, but the Captis feels more like a real ski to me. I don't think you need to go wider--if it snows in BC while you're there, then great!
Hi, I’m from the east coast 5 foot 7 and 175 lbs. Im an advanced skier and have been skiing since I was very young. What would you recommend for skis for the east coast? What length as well?
I think something in the mid-80's makes a lot of sense. Elan Ripstick 88, K2 Mindbender 89 Ti, or even narrower like the Volkl Deacon 84 (more carving oriented than the other two). I'd look to the high 160's for length.
I am an intermediate skier and I am skying 2x weeks yearly. I am hesitating between camox 2024 and camox 2023 (-25% cheaper) . What are really the difference between both skis and what would you advise me to do ?
Looking for a more playful alternative to the Mantra that I ski in a 184. I'm 5' 11" and expert skier and weigh 200lbs. Would the 180.4 length in the Camox work for me? The 186.6 Camox seems like it could be a bit long. Living in CO the terrain I ski in a day is from bowls, groomers, to bumps and trees in a day. Any thoughts would be great. Thank you.
6’1 210lbs and demo’ed the 186. Live in colorado and ski all over the west. It felt great, very easy to ski. I would personally ski a mantra in 184 and a camox in 186. Hope that helps.
I'm 6/2 225 and have been skiing the Camox in the 180 so far this season and during our media day last year. While I think the length is fine, I'd personally opt for he 186 for sure. If you're used to the Mantra in the 184 I'd think the same will be true for you when it comes to Camox and length. Love this ski!
I've been transitioning from fast downhill skiing to doing more 180's/360's/butters and park-style stuff over the last few years. Of course I still want a ski that can ski resort groomers, but I really want one that can be a bit more playful. Is the Camox a good fit for me or is something like the Captis a better option?
If you're looking for a mix of playfulness, park, and resort groomers, I think the Captis is great. The only thing that'd put you more in Camox discussion is how often you're in softer or deeper snow. If it's not often, then go for the Captis--it's a blast.
I ski mostly in the alps so I do ski quite a bit of soft snow. I do also like the option to go off piste. Seems like the camox might be a better fit in that case.
Just skied the Camox yesterday and felt very solid on it. Captis technically has more sidewall and more camber and a straighter shape, so by the numbers, that ski is more stout, but the increased mass of the Camox makes it feel more stable at speed.
The Bent is more flexible and lighter than the Camox. If you're looking for a bit more grip, pop, and pep, the Camox is the way to go. The Bent is quicker, floatier, and smearier--better for more playful and creative skiing while the Camox has some oomph to it for sure.
Awesomely. While still a bit wide for pure bump skiing (Captis is better in this realm within Black Crows), it does just great for being 97 mm underfoot.
@@SkiEssentials The reason I brought that up is that normally there are bumps in the bowls.. I might have to either ski through some bumps to get to the wide open bowl or at the bottom of the bowl there are bumps that I need to go through.. A ski that could handle both would be cool..
Camox feels quieter and more substantial while the new ARV has more life and energy to it. As a bigger skier, I kind of prefer the silence and smoothness of the Camox but the ARV is more poppy and definitely has a lighter and more mobile feel to it.
thx for the insight, Arv 94 sounds a bit better for my case. I m 5'10 and 178lbs, intermediate/advanced mostly ski all mountain/soft snow with this and starts to exploring park ski, should i go 178 or 171? i wish it has 175cm option @@SkiEssentials
For moguls, trees and generally uneven terrain where you're looking for air, would you recommend the camox, captis, one of the hesd oblivions or one of the prodigies (as you can see, I am super undecided)? Looking to snag one with all the season end sales running. Thanks - love your content!
Camox is my answer here--great at the trees and variable conditions and terrain. I'd rather ski the Captis in firm bumps, but that's about it. Camox does it all.
I demoed this ski on Monday at Sugarbush and I really liked it. I'm currently skiing the Maverick 88Ti and with 100 days on it I'm still happy. I'm looking to have 2 skis going forward and shopping for the wider one. I'm in the process of shifting the majority of my skiing from groomers into natural terrain when conditions allow and love low/mid angle trees that hold snow. I'm sold on Black Crows, the feel was great. Both solid and really fun. My only question is whether there is a better option for me that isn't a twin tip. I won't be skiing backwards or doing any tricks, but I do like the easy tail release. Is the Serpo still a good all mountain choice for soft snow and trees, and going out west? Do I throw out convention and try a Mirus Cor and pair it with a more traditional 95-100mm all mountain ski like a Maverick or Ripstick? Looking at Black Crows is a new twist in my thinking but I think after one day I might be hooked.
You don't need to ski backwards to own and love a twin tip. I've been doing it for 25 years. I would follow your current path and not mix it up with the Mirus Cor--that is a unique ski that can/should be obtained but not thought of as a one and only. It might end up being that, but it's a gamble.
Coming from the Rossignol Experience 82 Ti, I'm looking for a ski that can carve well, but also invites me to be more playful on the groomers and jumping on side hits here in Europe. Trying out 180s and skiing switch, but at the same time being able to push for a high speed carve when the surroundings allow for it. Black Crows Camox, Serpo or Justis? Or other (brands)? Would you put Look Pivot's on them? I was a bit bored with the Rossignols and looking to expand the bandwidth of capabilities without losing too much performance. Hope that makes sense :)
You will likely not be bored on the Serpo--that ski has energy to spare. Camox is great, but not quite as sturdy as the Serpo. Justis is one of my all-time favorite skis, but it is on the stiff side of the spectrum. I'd say a Serpo with a Pivot would do the trick just fine.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks. I've heard you say that a few times about the Justis. What exactly makes it one of your favourites? The speed it can handle, the skiing style that you get from skiing on it or the options it gives you? Putting a Pivot on a Justis might make it harder to put on its edges or not? Wouldn't a Salomon Warden/STH2 or Look SPX 12 be a better choice for a recreational skier?
I’ve watch quite a few of these videos, trying to figure out if I could go something like the camox, captis or the bent 90 or 100s, I mainly like skiing glades and in the trees and want to be able to move around and do some tricks. Basically make the mountain my playground. We don’t get much powder where I am but I travel to BC to ski once a year what do you think would be my best option?
I think there's a lot to like about the Captis for your application. Nice grip, good mobility in trees and bumps, and the twin tip is great for tricks and creativity. The Bent 90 does a lot of the same, but the ski is lighter and more flexible. This'll lead to slightly better flotation, but the Captis feels more like a real ski to me. I don't think you need to go wider--if it snows in BC while you're there, then great!
Hi, I’m from the east coast 5 foot 7 and 175 lbs. Im an advanced skier and have been skiing since I was very young. What would you recommend for skis for the east coast? What length as well?
I think something in the mid-80's makes a lot of sense. Elan Ripstick 88, K2 Mindbender 89 Ti, or even narrower like the Volkl Deacon 84 (more carving oriented than the other two). I'd look to the high 160's for length.
I am an intermediate skier and I am skying 2x weeks yearly. I am hesitating between camox 2024 and camox 2023 (-25% cheaper) . What are really the difference between both skis and what would you advise me to do ?
Zero structural difference. Get the cheaper one.
Looking for a more playful alternative to the Mantra that I ski in a 184. I'm 5' 11" and expert skier and weigh 200lbs. Would the 180.4 length in the Camox work for me? The 186.6 Camox seems like it could be a bit long. Living in CO the terrain I ski in a day is from bowls, groomers, to bumps and trees in a day. Any thoughts would be great. Thank you.
6’1 210lbs and demo’ed the 186. Live in colorado and ski all over the west. It felt great, very easy to ski. I would personally ski a mantra in 184 and a camox in 186. Hope that helps.
I'm 6/2 225 and have been skiing the Camox in the 180 so far this season and during our media day last year. While I think the length is fine, I'd personally opt for he 186 for sure. If you're used to the Mantra in the 184 I'd think the same will be true for you when it comes to Camox and length. Love this ski!
I've been transitioning from fast downhill skiing to doing more 180's/360's/butters and park-style stuff over the last few years. Of course I still want a ski that can ski resort groomers, but I really want one that can be a bit more playful. Is the Camox a good fit for me or is something like the Captis a better option?
If you're looking for a mix of playfulness, park, and resort groomers, I think the Captis is great. The only thing that'd put you more in Camox discussion is how often you're in softer or deeper snow. If it's not often, then go for the Captis--it's a blast.
I ski mostly in the alps so I do ski quite a bit of soft snow. I do also like the option to go off piste. Seems like the camox might be a better fit in that case.
What could you go faster on ( purely on piste ) Camox Vs Captis.
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Just skied the Camox yesterday and felt very solid on it. Captis technically has more sidewall and more camber and a straighter shape, so by the numbers, that ski is more stout, but the increased mass of the Camox makes it feel more stable at speed.
I rip 50 mph on my camox(just did today in jackson) it is a hell of a ski and my go to for all conditions until the snow gets deep
How does this compare to the bent 100?
The Bent is more flexible and lighter than the Camox. If you're looking for a bit more grip, pop, and pep, the Camox is the way to go. The Bent is quicker, floatier, and smearier--better for more playful and creative skiing while the Camox has some oomph to it for sure.
Can you mount the outlaw X on this ski?
Camox
Yes. Black Crows may say it voids a warranty but there's no other reason not to do it.
How does it handle the bumps?
Awesomely. While still a bit wide for pure bump skiing (Captis is better in this realm within Black Crows), it does just great for being 97 mm underfoot.
@@SkiEssentials The reason I brought that up is that normally there are bumps in the bowls.. I might have to either ski through some bumps to get to the wide open bowl or at the bottom of the bowl there are bumps that I need to go through.. A ski that could handle both would be cool..
how this compared to the new Arv 94 ?
Camox feels quieter and more substantial while the new ARV has more life and energy to it. As a bigger skier, I kind of prefer the silence and smoothness of the Camox but the ARV is more poppy and definitely has a lighter and more mobile feel to it.
thx for the insight, Arv 94 sounds a bit better for my case. I m 5'10 and 178lbs, intermediate/advanced mostly ski all mountain/soft snow with this and starts to exploring park ski, should i go 178 or 171? i wish it has 175cm option @@SkiEssentials