The commentators said that Luna Rossa was ahead thanks to the penalty to INEOS…yes, that’s part of the race, entering the field of regata is part of the game, it takes a great skill to do it properly and timely.
La commentatrice è latte e miele con tutti tranne con LR sembra che gli dispiaccia delle vittorie di LR spero tanto che continuiamo così e poi voglio vedere la faccia
Commentators blabbing around how Ineos was faster in downwind. With LR gaining the most of the gap in downwind, having an average VMG of 30-34 knots with Ineos on average 29-32. Well done Commentators. A pretty solid job...of incompetence.
@@HB-we1ln Which leg are you talking about? 23 secs down at the first one, 16 at the second one, 23 at the third one, 28 at the fourth one, 30 at the fifth one and 46 at the last one...
@@HB-we1ln apparently INEOS made a big change to their foils 2 weeks ago. Half the team in favour and half against. The change has backfired and now they can’t change back cos of the 20% rule (most of which they’ve already used up). So I don’t think INEOS are sandbagging. I just think they’re bad. Again
Team Ineos in good winds are quick down wind. Once they master the boat it’s possible they will be unbeatable. And they have the greatest sailor of all time.
I found the repeated comment from the commentator saying that the British didn't have to push so hard at the start utterly ridiculous. It's a race man. You need to push as hard as you can otherwise you may as well not be there if you want to be competitive. Unfortunately they were just that split second too quick on their timing.
A lot better audio/video nice to see VMG displayed on the bow especially on wide shots and boats on different tacks , very nice improvements thankyou more wind info will be great , regarding the boxed info if the background could be merged with the live an enhancement perhaps regards
Bellissima regata e devo anche ammettere che LunaRossa è la barca più bella in assoluto. Dalle prime competizioni pare che oltre a essere la la più bella sembra sia la più performante 🤩 Finalmente potremo divertirci un po' 😜👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Forza Luna Rossa. As Italians we deserve it, we have technology and skills, not pizza and mandolin as they think abroad. Our sailors and our shipbuilding are at the highest level.
@@hurri7720 They learnt to sail on a pond compared to Aussies and Kiwis that's pretty much why you see at least one of them in half of the fleet. The winning half.
@@polobik4231 Irrelevant in this discussion....things have changed. Remind me who has been winning most of the Olympic sailing medals and world championships lately. Exactly.
Yikes, it isn't getting any better for GBR. In a race format where whoever wins the start, wins the race (has there been an overtake yet?) teams can't make one mistake, let alone two. Ben took himself out of the SailGP boat, you have to ask why he is in this one. Great guy, lots of achievements, but no track record in foiling to speak of.
Maybe he took himself out of Sail GP to focus on the Americas Cup. Yes there has been a overtake. Team NZ lost the start to the Swiss on a split tack start but Team NZ got the favoured side & that advantage got them the lead back pretty quickly & it was then game over for the Swiss. Admittedly that race was after you made your comment.
@@JohnWilson-cs7iqgreat that there has been one overtaking manoeuvre in a dozen races. Although that one was on the first leg so no action at all in any race on any of the other legs. I want to see close, ding dong racing. That is the point of running the event over a tight course close to land, it should be a visual spectacle. But, sadly, once you get past seeing the speed, there isn't anything to watch. SailGP doesn't really work either but it is a bit better as it is fleet racing and there can be some boat on boat action. The AC is a match racing format which relies for its interest on boat on boat tactics and close racing - which is why match racing is normally raced in one design boats. Development or limited/restricted development classes like the AC throw up a range of designs which favour particular conditions more than others (or are just dogs that won't go in any conditions). If the fleet was racing together over a series in a range of conditions then this could be fun. But one on one it is what we are seeing, a contested start (mostly) followed by a processional race. I suspect that every RUclips spectator has fallen into the pattern of watching the start and first leg and then scrolling to the finish - you already know what the result will be so save yourself 20 minutes!
LR fast all around. Ineos desperate to recover gap but LR controlled the advantage and pushed when the advantage was slightly dropping to make Ineos desisting.
They are professionals for heavens sake! THREE clangers....early ...out of the course and the wrong jib...can hardly believe the complete shambles. And then yer man Dylan...oh well it is tough coming across into the start box...l mean they only give us ten seconds and the PC is very complicated..no wonder we made a mess of it...
I yearn for the old days of 2013 when foiling was in it's infancy and mistakes and lead changes were common. Today, I'm not a real fan of this "the start decides it" racing. Of course, I speak as one whose national skipper has forgotten how to make a decent start.
I think, like you, that the races are boring and it's not possible to do anything next. If your start is good, 90% of the race is already decided. The foil is fun because of the adrenaline, but match racing is boring.
@@Cider4144 due to a penalty, stop the nonsense. This is boring and AC knows that, because they are streaming it free to everyone, nobody would pay to watch this. Let's go back to non foiling monohulls and actual sailors doing their work, group racing and not this nonsense match racing.
LR & ETNZ looks the likely final of this prelim regatta and they were both having a good old dog fight upwind the other day until LR lost power. Looked very even until that point.
I suggest for the next AC, you simply remove the humans at all, just make the boats remote controlled, by an AI, and a pit crew team to at the docks to watch over it. The way this is going, might as well just end the race, when the first boat crosses the start line, because they are the winners, if they didn't get a penalty.
@@jamestalagi7897it was a software shutdown, you don’t know how it would had performed nor they lost anything but the chance to measure up against the defender. Now imagine that happening to NZ when it’s t8me to score point! You came here to deliver your “ wisdom” about an event that counts very little, so that puts it into prospective, I guess. Now go back to sheep-shagging and let us enjoy the rest of the AC.
And how fair are the Italian -language commentators with Britannia? (I presume there are some.) Bias towards ones own compatriots/co-linguists is almost universal in sports commentating, it's human nature.
For all the hundreds of millions its boring and...a bit silly really. One thing is not is a test of seamanship. A 50 50 balance between boat and crew is what it should be, but what we have is nothing to do with sailing excellence
If you watched any interviews with Ben Ainslie into the lead up of the AC, he didn’t sound really enthusiastic at all. The boat looks like a dog to race!
Why is the America's Cup broadcaster using helicopters rather than far more environmentally friendly and less obtrusive drones to shoot aerial footage?
I agree it's boring but taking the technology back in time isn't the answer. The point of Americas cup is to push sailing technology forward. I don't know what the solution is though. Maybe having more boats on the course could be interesting but I still think we'll have the same problem with the leading boat staying there. Maybe shorter more complex courses?
Apply the Technology in a different way, that's for example what Luna Rossa always would have done, and if they win this year i'm pretty much shure they will rethink the whole thing. You should not going back in tech, but you should know how and where to apply it, cause Technology it's boring, due it's nature. And if you drop away any human effort, replacing it with tech doing it's job, it will naturally resulting boring. We have a clear example of it in F1, all that tech made it boring with drivers that today are more buttonpusher and tyre managers than actually drivers. But if you take the MotoGp for example isn't boring even if there's a lot of tech in it...why? Cause there's still an Human that have to control the bike freely. They have to sail? Well let's put the tech inside the boat, remove the cyclors and let actual mens controlling the sails...that's build emotions, the human effort.
You need to give time to this technology the boat with time they will get closer and closer and the organisation will get better and change rules to make the show more interesting.
@@dreads9536 Without any real downwind legs, the boat ahead always has the advantage. The rules of sailing need to change to give advantage back to the boat behind if the boats are sailing faster than the wind.
@ranavalona24 there is nothing much in that early charge, WHY don't they leave it up to the contestants to take their penalty when it suits them, but penalizing them that early it's throwing the towel in before they not starting.
la regata dei cloni dovrebbero chiamarla, un pò come ora è la formula uno . barche uguali , macchine uguali , ma a che serve fate fare la gara ad equipaggi di un solo stato....tanto che cambia . il classismo creato anche qui ormai è palese.
Non è sbagliato il mezzo, ma eventualmente le regole che offrono poca possibilità di spettacolo una volta che una barca ha vinto la partenza. Secondo me una soluzione potrebbe essere mettere più boe, ma lo dico più da appassionato che da tecnico.
@@fabiocampagnoli Ha ragione questa non è vela, se sei d'avanti in partenza sei davanti tutta la regata, non c'è possibilità di sorpassi come succedeva un tempo, ormai queste barche creano tanta di quella portanza sulle vele che con 10 kn di vento fai 40 kn e così per tutte, può ballare 1 kn di differenza ma questo non ti da la possibilità di rimonta e quindi di lotta. Inoltre ti sembra normale che se si pianta l'elettronica la barca si ferma, e basta guardare il primo match di luna rossa. Dovrebbe essere una categoria a parte e non la coppa america, gare noiosissime, da ing. aerospaziale ti dico che queste non sono barche ma sono ali vere e proprie, le regate sono altro.
Io o visto gli zelandesi ....sono impressionanti veloci in tutto mah......speriamo ....anche il tempo che anno impiegato ........ragazzi e dura davvero anche se domani non conta .......ma poi conterà.......
Penalty are for everyone. if you get a penalty you deserve to lose, unless you're able to recover and win the race, cause it mean that the other team sailed better and according to rules.
@@jamestalagi7897 Chances are to be earned. The Italians with Luna Rossa are since 2000 that are trying to win the Cup, making two finals vs ETNZ. If the British want the chance to win it, they should win firstly the LV Cup.
What’s the point of watching the whole race? We all know that the boat that crosses the starting line first will be the winner! This is simply ridiculous.
The commentators said that Luna Rossa was ahead thanks to the penalty to INEOS…yes, that’s part of the race, entering the field of regata is part of the game, it takes a great skill to do it properly and timely.
La commentatrice è latte e miele con tutti tranne con LR sembra che gli dispiaccia delle vittorie di LR spero tanto che continuiamo così e poi voglio vedere la faccia
Gli anglosassoni, a meno di dover combattere tra loro, sono sempre solidali contro i latini e in genere i "non celti"
Nell'ultimo lato di poppa Luna Rossa gli ha rifilato 16 secondi rispetto al ritardo del giro di boa precedente
Commentators blabbing around how Ineos was faster in downwind. With LR gaining the most of the gap in downwind, having an average VMG of 30-34 knots with Ineos on average 29-32.
Well done Commentators. A pretty solid job...of incompetence.
@@HB-we1ln Which leg are you talking about? 23 secs down at the first one, 16 at the second one, 23 at the third one, 28 at the fourth one, 30 at the fifth one and 46 at the last one...
They are Brits and they have never managed to just stay cool and honest when losing.
After the last America's Cup, commentator Stephen McIvor should have never returned.
@@HB-we1ln apparently INEOS made a big change to their foils 2 weeks ago. Half the team in favour and half against. The change has backfired and now they can’t change back cos of the 20% rule (most of which they’ve already used up). So I don’t think INEOS are sandbagging. I just think they’re bad. Again
Team Ineos in good winds are quick down wind.
Once they master the boat it’s possible they will be unbeatable.
And they have the greatest sailor of all time.
I found the repeated comment from the commentator saying that the British didn't have to push so hard at the start utterly ridiculous. It's a race man. You need to push as hard as you can otherwise you may as well not be there if you want to be competitive. Unfortunately they were just that split second too quick on their timing.
Yes with all the races I've seen, it's as soon as one team gets ahead they are never challenged.
A lot better audio/video nice to see VMG displayed on the bow especially on wide shots and boats on different tacks , very nice improvements thankyou more wind info will be great , regarding the boxed info if the background could be merged with the live an enhancement perhaps regards
Bellissima regata e devo anche ammettere che LunaRossa è la barca più bella in assoluto. Dalle prime competizioni pare che oltre a essere la la più bella sembra sia la più performante 🤩 Finalmente potremo divertirci un po' 😜👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Speriamo!! Ma non gufiamola... 🦉🤣🤣
Forza Luna Rossa. As Italians we deserve it, we have technology and skills, not pizza and mandolin as they think abroad. Our sailors and our shipbuilding are at the highest level.
Full shut down 😂
It is actually true and I am not Italian. Besides I think the Italians learned to sail long before the other contenders.
@@hurri7720
They learnt to sail on a pond compared to Aussies and Kiwis that's pretty much why you see at least one of them in half of the fleet. The winning half.
@@AUmarcus Remind me who discovered America? Remind me who was America named after? 🙄
@@polobik4231
Irrelevant in this discussion....things have changed.
Remind me who has been winning most of the Olympic sailing medals and world championships lately.
Exactly.
Yikes, it isn't getting any better for GBR. In a race format where whoever wins the start, wins the race (has there been an overtake yet?) teams can't make one mistake, let alone two. Ben took himself out of the SailGP boat, you have to ask why he is in this one. Great guy, lots of achievements, but no track record in foiling to speak of.
Maybe he took himself out of Sail GP to focus on the Americas Cup. Yes there has been a overtake. Team NZ lost the start to the Swiss on a split tack start but Team NZ got the favoured side & that advantage got them the lead back pretty quickly & it was then game over for the Swiss. Admittedly that race was after you made your comment.
@@JohnWilson-cs7iqgreat that there has been one overtaking manoeuvre in a dozen races. Although that one was on the first leg so no action at all in any race on any of the other legs. I want to see close, ding dong racing. That is the point of running the event over a tight course close to land, it should be a visual spectacle. But, sadly, once you get past seeing the speed, there isn't anything to watch. SailGP doesn't really work either but it is a bit better as it is fleet racing and there can be some boat on boat action. The AC is a match racing format which relies for its interest on boat on boat tactics and close racing - which is why match racing is normally raced in one design boats. Development or limited/restricted development classes like the AC throw up a range of designs which favour particular conditions more than others (or are just dogs that won't go in any conditions). If the fleet was racing together over a series in a range of conditions then this could be fun. But one on one it is what we are seeing, a contested start (mostly) followed by a processional race. I suspect that every RUclips spectator has fallen into the pattern of watching the start and first leg and then scrolling to the finish - you already know what the result will be so save yourself 20 minutes!
Good races to remove some salt from the gears. In the round-robin Lunarossa will inflict a gap of more than a minute on INEOS and company.
Glad to see some improvement on the audio and the visuals, thanks. As for the commentators, still a lot to be desired!!
Luna Rossa VAMMOOOOOS JODERRRRR
No competition at all, Britannia’s clearly slower
Luna rossaaaaa❤
8.38 “It’s just those small metres “ 😂
Luna rossaaaaaa... Forza Italia ❤❤🎉🎉
Enjoying Glen Ashby's commentary.
Glen Ashby - supurb commentary and extensive knowledge for years
Commentator: “INEOS entered a little late” 🤔 (2 meters early)
He’s the worst commentator.
Awesome Racing
Sembra veloce , mai uno scontro ravvicinato ho visto fino ad ora.
Alla fine della regata, Dopo la vittoria di Luna Rossa, ci sta proprio mangiare na bella e saporita 4 stagioni😂❤
The commentators are from New Zealand ?
😂😂😂 you can hear the Leady she is very frustrated about the victory of L.Rossa.😢😢😢😢
What do you think about the performances of the boats for what seem so far?
@@valentinovolpe-x3r LR and NZ a long long way ahead of the rest
LR fast all around. Ineos desperate to recover gap but LR controlled the advantage and pushed when the advantage was slightly dropping to make Ineos desisting.
NZ and Italy.
They are professionals for heavens sake! THREE clangers....early ...out of the course and the wrong jib...can hardly believe the complete shambles. And then yer man Dylan...oh well it is tough coming across into the start box...l mean they only give us ten seconds and the PC is very complicated..no wonder we made a mess of it...
Bruni (LR) also mentioned using a wrong jib. They probably had the same one, which was not ideal for either of them.
are these commentators watching the same race
I yearn for the old days of 2013 when foiling was in it's infancy and mistakes and lead changes were common. Today, I'm not a real fan of this "the start decides it" racing. Of course, I speak as one whose national skipper has forgotten how to make a decent start.
I think, like you, that the races are boring and it's not possible to do anything next. If your start is good, 90% of the race is already decided. The foil is fun because of the adrenaline, but match racing is boring.
Wow!! So, these comments are being edited/deleted if they are too critical!! FYI
I don't think I've seen one pass on the course during any of the races. It's hardly edge of the seat stuff.
Alinghi had the lead in both races but went on to lose
@@Cider4144 due to a penalty, stop the nonsense. This is boring and AC knows that, because they are streaming it free to everyone, nobody would pay to watch this. Let's go back to non foiling monohulls and actual sailors doing their work, group racing and not this nonsense match racing.
LR & ETNZ looks the likely final of this prelim regatta and they were both having a good old dog fight upwind the other day until LR lost power. Looked very even until that point.
It is a bit like F1 but it can get very exciting and the graphics help a lot. Traditionally wathing a yacht race was dull.
Forza Luna Rossa !
This stuff rivals Flintstones Chewable Morphine, as strong pain meds at 3.40am!
Thank you kindly, LV37.
I suggest for the next AC, you simply remove the humans at all, just make the boats remote controlled, by an AI, and a pit crew team to at the docks to watch over it. The way this is going, might as well just end the race, when the first boat crosses the start line, because they are the winners, if they didn't get a penalty.
I would replace the 4 gorillas with some rechargable batteries.
E vai!
Silver Bullet 🇮🇹
@valerio_c the silver bullet didn't fire to fare up with team nz
@@jamestalagi7897 How many Olympic medals Nez Zealend won then ?? 🤦♂🤦♂
Didn't or they didn't wanted to?
Tomorrow we will see what end will meet your words.
@@alessandrom7181how old are you 12? Grow up.
@@jamestalagi7897it was a software shutdown, you don’t know how it would had performed nor they lost anything but the chance to measure up against the defender. Now imagine that happening to NZ when it’s t8me to score point!
You came here to deliver your “ wisdom” about an event that counts very little, so that puts it into prospective, I guess. Now go back to sheep-shagging and let us enjoy the rest of the AC.
Commentators are unfair with Luna Rossa. A clear example of unsportsmanlike
And how fair are the Italian -language commentators with Britannia? (I presume there are some.) Bias towards ones own compatriots/co-linguists is almost universal in sports commentating, it's human nature.
@@terryhunt2659 no, trust me they are more impartial in their comments
For all the hundreds of millions its boring and...a bit silly really. One thing is not is a test of seamanship. A 50 50 balance between boat and crew is what it should be, but what we have is nothing to do with sailing excellence
😂😂
If you watched any interviews with Ben Ainslie into the lead up of the AC, he didn’t sound really enthusiastic at all. The boat looks like a dog to race!
Gulive the commentators a tape measure, they would confuse them selves into insanity
It seems to be all about what team wins the start with all these races because as soon as one team gets ahead there is no catching them. Boring
Why is the America's Cup broadcaster using helicopters rather than far more environmentally friendly and less obtrusive drones to shoot aerial footage?
Stabilized camera gimbals.
So a lot of people do not like this racing format (including me) What should they do? Going back to the lead transporters of 2007? (I loved them....)
I agree it's boring but taking the technology back in time isn't the answer. The point of Americas cup is to push sailing technology forward. I don't know what the solution is though. Maybe having more boats on the course could be interesting but I still think we'll have the same problem with the leading boat staying there. Maybe shorter more complex courses?
Apply the Technology in a different way, that's for example what Luna Rossa always would have done, and if they win this year i'm pretty much shure they will rethink the whole thing.
You should not going back in tech, but you should know how and where to apply it, cause Technology it's boring, due it's nature. And if you drop away any human effort, replacing it with tech doing it's job, it will naturally resulting boring. We have a clear example of it in F1, all that tech made it boring with drivers that today are more buttonpusher and tyre managers than actually drivers. But if you take the MotoGp for example isn't boring even if there's a lot of tech in it...why? Cause there's still an Human that have to control the bike freely.
They have to sail? Well let's put the tech inside the boat, remove the cyclors and let actual mens controlling the sails...that's build emotions, the human effort.
You need to give time to this technology the boat with time they will get closer and closer and the organisation will get better and change rules to make the show more interesting.
@@dreads9536 Without any real downwind legs, the boat ahead always has the advantage. The rules of sailing need to change to give advantage back to the boat behind if the boats are sailing faster than the wind.
Some of these rules are pure stupidity, time for new rules, the boats had change, so as new rules should be administered
What's really stupid are unforced errors. They'd thrown it away even before the start, and then a boundary transgression!
@ranavalona24 there is nothing much in that early charge, WHY don't they leave it up to the contestants to take their penalty when it suits them, but penalizing them that early it's throwing the towel in before they not starting.
Where is Australia ?
Just south of New Guinea
Ineos slow even without the pens they would have lost this.
la regata dei cloni dovrebbero chiamarla, un pò come ora è la formula uno .
barche uguali , macchine uguali , ma a che serve fate fare la gara ad equipaggi di un solo stato....tanto che cambia .
il classismo creato anche qui ormai è palese.
the same from the poms slow
It’s awful racing if you don’t get off the start you have lost no passing this regatta sucks big time sail gp better racing
Cosa c'entra con la Vela...Con le Barche a Vela...???!!!!!MAH!!!!!!...Comunque Bravi..Bravi...
Non è sbagliato il mezzo, ma eventualmente le regole che offrono poca possibilità di spettacolo una volta che una barca ha vinto la partenza.
Secondo me una soluzione potrebbe essere mettere più boe, ma lo dico più da appassionato che da tecnico.
@@fabiocampagnoli barche ...a vela...si!...Astronavi....no!😜
@@fabiocampagnoli Ha ragione questa non è vela, se sei d'avanti in partenza sei davanti tutta la regata, non c'è possibilità di sorpassi come succedeva un tempo, ormai queste barche creano tanta di quella portanza sulle vele che con 10 kn di vento fai 40 kn e così per tutte, può ballare 1 kn di differenza ma questo non ti da la possibilità di rimonta e quindi di lotta. Inoltre ti sembra normale che se si pianta l'elettronica la barca si ferma, e basta guardare il primo match di luna rossa. Dovrebbe essere una categoria a parte e non la coppa america, gare noiosissime, da ing. aerospaziale ti dico che queste non sono barche ma sono ali vere e proprie, le regate sono altro.
Asho comments are worth listening not the other idiots
The racing is boring but the Muppets in the comments sections are hilarious
"Muppets" You made my day.
Only boring people make bored comments
@@martinkilleen7607 oh wow, soooo scathing....
Proving your own point. I see what you did there.
Brava Luna Rossa 👍💙🇮🇹 ma dai questo non e' piu' navigazione a vela , troppa tecnologia , barche che volano , non si puo chiamare sport 🤔
La barca più bella contro la più originale. Bruttino e un po' datato il logo Pirelli
Io o visto gli zelandesi ....sono impressionanti veloci in tutto mah......speriamo ....anche il tempo che anno impiegato ........ragazzi e dura davvero anche se domani non conta .......ma poi conterà.......
luna rono other level, spettacolo.
That early penalty should be thrown out the rule book,
Especially when it hurts the Brits, I bet.😂
Penalty are for everyone. if you get a penalty you deserve to lose, unless you're able to recover and win the race, cause it mean that the other team sailed better and according to rules.
@CapitanHarlockisback I'm not a fan of the Brits, but giving these guys the chance. These machine are not cheap, lol 😆 😂
@@jamestalagi7897 Chances are to be earned. The Italians with Luna Rossa are since 2000 that are trying to win the Cup, making two finals vs ETNZ.
If the British want the chance to win it, they should win firstly the LV Cup.
Snoozefest, the people in charge are loosing focus on the fans experience.
most boring 🥱
Go and watch boring nascar my friend you have a clear choice, YOURS SEEMS TO BE COUCH CRITIC, maybe get a real job with a future?
GBR billionaires budget F1 designers , all the technology they have ,surely they have something up there sleeve
Nice to see they still use woolies on their sails.
Ineos🚜
I am sorry to say that this is boring.
What’s the point of watching the whole race? We all know that the boat that crosses the starting line first will be the winner! This is simply ridiculous.
Ma qualcuno sa perché i neozelandesi navigano sbandati sopra vento?🙌
Si saranno inventati qualche diavoleria! 😂
Gbr no saben navegar, son los peores, forza LR
Ainslie needs to lose his ego and realise his limits
Taxi for Ben I think.The is slow.