Why Puss in Boots The Last Wish is a Modern Classic
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Schaff watches the funny Jack Horner movie that also has some cats in it!
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As a British person, making the three bears incredibly British was one of the funniest things they could've done
I absolutely adored every time Goldi went "OI BAYBEE"
Same lol, I lost it at the “Oi I’m gonna bust you up plum thumb!” Line
It was so refreshing to have British characters who weren’t the stereotypical “pip, pip cheerio” types.
Instead, the bears were ACCURATELY British
Also, I think it especially worked because they casted many famous British actors like Florence Pugh, Olivia Coleman and Ray Winstone
In the latin Spanish version they are Argentinian
@@dhv2852wait that’s hilarious
I love how the last baker is only kept alive so that it can be shown that the border of the Wishing Star is deadly when she dies, therefore making Death's appearance through the border that much more intimidating.
Horner asking "you're not chatty are you?" as he was weighing to save her life or not; over her potential to be annoying, had my sides in orbit. So on brand for him.
That, but also the fact that the border has this intense gravitational pull to it, yet Death strolls right in, ignoring that pull entirely.
@@gagejoseph91I’d say its because hes something more akin to a soul not bound to a body. (Not saying this is what he is ofc, just an example) he is death, straight up.
Kinda like that one digger that got eaten by the beetles in the Brendan Fraser Mummy.
@@The1andonlysharpshooter First, we had "Because I'm BATMAN". Now, we have "I am Death. STRAIGHT. UP."
Loved how this movie also flipped the "overheard someone just to misunderstand the situation" trope
Yeah, Kitty overhearing Puss talking to Perito during his panic attack and actually understanding precisely what was happening is a refreshing subversion of one of my biggest pet peeve tropes.
@@webbowser8834 it felt so good watching it for the first time. This whole movie is just fantastic
It happened in shrek as well iirc
Yeah unlike those ones, Kitty didn’t misunderstand really that much at all
What also makes the scene great is that Kitty does still miss out on information. She isn't there to overhear the part on Puss being on his last life and wanting to use The Wishing Star to get his lives back. So when we later see Puss running from Death to use the wish while Kitty is watching, Kitty is understandably upset about it. So the character development from Kitty overhearing Puss becomes endangered by what information she didn't overhear. The movie both uses and subverts the trope of "person overhears something without context."
As someone who lives in a family where me and all my siblings were adopted, the Goldilox sidestory really hit close to home. My sister used to want to get back to her biological mom, almost to the point of replacing the mom who actually raised her. It hurt my mom quite a bit, but she still supported her efforts to find and reconnect with her biological family. So that scene where Mama Bear says "Whether you think we're your family or not, we'll get you that wish" REALLY hits me.
@@deyontemyers4109Swearing at them in ways to make sailors say "Whoa, chill man" is a bit too far though!
This is smth not talked about enough among adopted families, especially families of mixed race. I'm so glad there was more to it beyond what we typically get whenever we get brought up.
I work in the foster care system, and I watched that while I was cuddling my foster sister and i legit struggled to not cry
Are you ok to say what happened next? I find a bit of sorrow to your adopted mum.
Ive always figured that Puss's arc in the movie can be summarized in this way: he grows from being fearless, to being brave.
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Very nice.
I mean, technically you're correct, but that's also a gross minimization.
@@NeroCM since he also became humble during the arc. So add the brave and humble in there too.
It's more than that, summarizing that way is generic
He learns how to love others outside himself by grounding his ego, since he's on his last life, everything is high stakes to face something he never thought about....death, metaphorically and literal
I love the “birthday wish rules” dialogue because it perfectly foreshadows how no one will actually get the wish- Puss, Kitty, Goldilocks, and even Jack each tell someone about their wish at some point
Yet all of them technically get their wish, Puss solves his fear, Kitty gets someone she trusts, Goldi gets a real family and Jack gets the source of all magic in the world although it kills him.
@@goatlover6312 Puss doesn't get his lives, Goldi already HAD a real family, Jack doesn't make the wish in time and his magic backfires and Puss earns being a trustworthy person to Kitty
No one really got a wish, they realized there was "no magic needed"
@@danielnizberg1754exactly
Thus aligning with the film's theme by suggesting that isolation due to fear is no way to lead a fulfilling life, and that to actually achieve your goals, you need to trust other people. Full circle!
@@danielnizberg1754I honestly really loved the cabin scene with Goldilocks, where the map just straight up says “Your wish is already a thing idiot”
I think the actual quote on the map is “Sometimes what you want is already right in front of you”, but I can’t remember
I really like Puss’s redesign in this movie. He has a patch of white fur on his stomach, his eyes are bigger and more expressive, and his shade of orange is richer.
So yeah, good choice redesigning him for the new art style.
I noticed it with Kitty too. She looks really bad in the first film
Same. And Kitty looks so much better too. Her shiny coat and her crystal blue eyes, she’s just so damn adorable!
The hat's bigger too, and now I can't look at any of his earlier appearances with the smaller hat, it just looks wrong.
@@Wulfjagerno she doesn’t but I respect your opinion
@@tandnmom100same
I LOVE that they didn’t do a “therapy dog” joke after puss’s panic attack. I fully expected it (I blame disney) and I’m so grateful that they didn’t spell it out
One of the great things about this film is that it knows when to be funny and it knows when to be serious. Too many movies now feel the need to interject an emotional scene with humor and it just lessens the impact. Take Deadpool 2 for example. Now I absolutely love and adore that film but I can’t just ignore it’s faults. There were some moments in that movie that would’ve been way better had they not interjected it with a joke. Puss in boots knows when it needs to be serious. The panic attack scene was executed beautifully.
@@superadambomb5834The difference is, with Deadpool 2 you can write it off because it's a cinematic depiction of Deadpool. Can't do the same with other movies. Though it is still important to note that Deadpool, at times, can be a very serious and real character in the comics
@@xfrostyresonance8614 I do understand that but there were moments where I fealt that the humor was forced. Like in the scene where he’s dying at the end. The scene would’ve been fine with maybe a few jokes here and there but it just goes on and on and never seems to know when to stop. Again don’t get me wrong I absolutely love dp2 and it’s honestly one of my favorite marvel movies but it’s just stuff like that that really bugs me.
@@superadambomb5834 Agreed, that's why my reply had the comic book-related caveat.
AHEM…. Looking at you Velma.
Another great thing about Death is when Puss concludes his arc, he doesn’t smile and reveal this was all some sort of lesson or test, which I could totally see another film going for. I’m pretty sure his line in Spanish right after is “I shouldn’t have played with my food”- he’s legitimately frustrated that Puss was able to complete a character arc before he got to him, and the only reason he stops is because it isn’t fun anymore.
It is "why the hell did I go to play with my food?!" which is very funny.
It's not fun anymore & probably his own moral code doesn't allow him to do it at that point: Death values life very much and wants mortals to do the same, and killing Puss prematurely was meant as a punishment for forgetting that value. Post-character development Puss is someone who does appreciate life, thus Death killing him there would be against his whole point.
Buuuuuuutttttt....
He still calms down, puts down his sickles, and accepts that Puss has changed. Death may be a villain, and isn't "just doing his job", but he's certainly not one dimensional.
@@kylemorello4787 he /is/ one dimensional. He doesn't stop because he now respects Puss, or because he changed or evolved as a character, he stops because its just not fun anymore. One dimensional villains have a simple motivation, once its gone, theres no reason to keep at it. It doesn't make him a deep character
@electroshock1021 While you have a point, there's still an implied dynamism to his character; the fact that he chooses to stop his hunt, whatever the reason may be, shows that he has a personality and that he is free as a character to act and react to things dynamically. This is instead of him just being a relentless hunter that stops at nothing and doesn't care nor reacts to his environment and other characters. I think it's a brilliant mid point between having a fully fleshed out character (which the movie didn't have time for, nor probably needed it) and having just a bad guy for the sake of being bad
One thing I'd like to add to Kitty's character that no one has talked about(at least from what I've seen), she also kinda subverts a trope that was in the first Shrek film. Specifically the one where someone overhears part of a conversation and feels hurt afterwards without full context. Where Shrek left to Duloc in a moment of heartbreak without really knowing what Fiona was talking about, Kitty sticks around and realizes Puss' sincerity.
honestly great point! it's so cathartic to have someone overhear and actually have it go well for once
Funnily enough, the first Shrek film has something like that when Fiona overhears the conversation Shrek has with Donkey, and becomes a lot less harsh on him the next morning
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Yeah, but the scene of Shrek dismissing Fiona's conversation with Donkey fits his character so well. He hears what he always expected to hear, "You are ugly and nobody likes you." If he truly felt that Fiona and Donkey were his friends, he would've said something to them then and there, but because of his sensitivity and self-loathing, he's willing to leave them then and there without saying a word. He's always decided that nobody will ever like him and it took Donkey going to HIM and saying "I like you," for him to finally open up.
@@tveye363
Agreed, but it's still an annoying trope that is misused way more often than not.
“What’s the matter, Gato? Lives flashing before your eyes?” “No… Just one!” is probably the hardest line I’ve ever heard in an animated movie. Maybe any movie tbh
He didn’t actually say gato in that specific scene but I like that you added gato! 👍🏽👍🏽
Aaagh someone better animate that one fight scene with tigerstar and firestar with that line
The Warrior cats brainrot never leaves tbh
@@Fawnfreckle true, right now only goofy 2d animations exist, would be great to see people animate everything in 3d
Fun fact: usually death is represented with a scythe, a tool used to cut a lot of crops with one blow. However, in this movie death uses sickles instead, which are used to cut a single plant that's hard to remove.
*In this movie death is here specifically for Puss, a cat who is really hard to kill because of his 9 lifes and his skill at combat.*
THATS WHAT I SAID!!!!!!!!!
that is an amazing detail, thank you for bringing it to my attention
One thing I feel isn't appreciated enough about this movie is the _pacing._ I'm genuinely impressed at just how many characters, scenes, and set pieces are crammed into just 90 minutes without the movie ever feeling rushed or underdeveloped. It damn near feels like a magic trick with how they juggle so many things so perfectly and give everything just the right amount of screen time.
You're completely right. Pacing is SO hard, they mastered it in this movie.
ok
Nah cause I genuinely keep forgetting this movie was actually pretty short
My thoughts exactly
Spiderman 3 could never
Something I really appreciate about Jack Horner is how they use have his “backstory” serve as an effective foil to Perrito.
One had everything he could ever want, yet was dissatisfied and wanted more.
The other had essentially nothing and a rough youth, yet still managed to remain optimistic and find the value in the little he had.
Thank you for this observation, didn't catch that myself at all and now it makes me love the movie even more
Do you think that's why there's three villains in TLW? They each serve as a kind of parallel? Jack Horner has it all, while Perrito has nothing; Kitty has trouble forming relationships, while Goldilocks has a GREAT relationship she cannot appreciate; and Puss's drive to live contrasts rather blatantly with Death's impetus.
Unrelated by kind of... Reminds me of the game Yakuza 8 as well. The story in that game is brilliant.
You play as a guy who basically has NOTHING! He was an orphan. Raised in a whore house by the owner of the whore house and the female prostitutes, he was in a criminal gang, gave up everything for the sake of his boss went to prison for 15 years, gets kicked out, and is literally homeless. This man went from having nothing to having even less somehow... And he is the most optimistic, sweetest guy you will ever see in a game! Seeing the positive in everything, wishing to be a hero, and then acts like a hero by doing small good deeds with a smile on his face, loving the people he meets and befriends.
On the other hand, we have the villain, a man the same age as him, who grew up the son of a mob boss, thus was always insanely rich, studied abroad, is now running to be prime minister, and is loved by the country, he has everything, society adores him... And he is bitter as hell. Angry at the world, he is cutting whatever family and friendship ties he has while our main character is forming them. One is building himself up from the bottom, and the other is burning everything down just due to his personal pettiness and bitterness.
Perfect mirror images of each other, and it's such a good story and such a good commentary about how your view on life can affect your own happiness.
@@ryanbarham8464 you and the original commenter are both absolute geniuses. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.
Plus, Pinocchio never resented his father for selling him to Lord Farquaad’s guards unlike Jack Horner who seems to have a hatred for his parents despite being so loving to him.
One alternative interpretation of Perrito that I enjoy is that he *does*, in fact, know how tragic and painful his past was, but that he's actively choosing to look past it. The scene that reveals this best is when he says "From one orphan to another" to Goldie. I like to believe that although he obviously knows he was abandoned, he decides to face it with humour, just like his overall positive outlook in life.
I love the way you phrased it: he FACES his situation with humor. It's not a coping mechanism; he's just at peace enough with it to not dwell on it and stew in it. My roommate and their boyfriend both have this habit of using humor as a coping mechanism, i.e. always making jokes about their situations in an effort to skirt around it without processing it. I know this because that mindset bleeds into how they treat me sometimes, and I just never can vibe with it.
You can face an awful situation with humor, even if only in hindsight. It's probably more useful that way, after you've processed it and come to terms with it. That's what Perrito did.
Thank you for the comment, it was really enlightening
@@christiannorton9400 Hope you’re doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
Hope you’re doing good and staying safe. If you need to talk to someone or need help, there are people who care. Sending support and hearts. ❤️❤️❤️
The emotional maturity of that pup really surprised me.
@@christiannorton9400 then you just completely killed his entire character 😅😅 the point of his character in the first place is how innocent he is to a point that all the negativity he experienced was invalidated cause he didnt understand it was negative in the first place, his the embodinment of "innocent to a fault" his not some enlightened individual who has mastered the way of inner peace like oogway, his not this extremely emotionally intelligent and mature creature that you portray him to be, his just a simple dog with a simple mind and an innocent character stop over analyzing a character that had the most basic and simple personality and turning it into some sort of complex and 500 iq character that the writers intended cause thats just reaching at this point.
As a lifelong Shrek fan, this movie really blew me away. They had every excuse to make a terrible cash-grab sequel, but instead they busted their balls to make this masterpiece. It’s truly better than it has any right to be
You know, I never really understood when someone says “better than it has any right to be”. Are you trying to say you would prefer if the film was not as good as it was?
@@AnasSaahirHuq-or9bv
no, its more of a "i expected it to be bad, but im pleasently suprised", especially if it has ties to a more comedic or bad show.
Its like eating a banana icecream and expecting it to be shit, only for it to taste good.
(i hope this explains it, i have a hard time with metaphor thingys too)
*cough* Megamind 2 *COUGH COUGH*
It will live on forever now.
@@jonbaxter2254 agreed
Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is a perfect example of a sequel done right that exceeds the original in every conceivable way, it had incredible characters, amazing plot, and ridiculously immaculate animation
I didn't ask, but I made a Hilarious video of a woman crying about her dog being put down because I make better content. 🤣😂..
@@ChrisShafferOfficialShut...
It’s dreamworks, they don’t make bad sequels, especially if the original movie is bad.
Last wish is TERRIBLE as a sequel.
@@martin_pants4187being a contrarian does not make you look cool, jsyk
I know a lot of people have already brought up the panic attack scene and how it’s depicted. But no one brings up what happens right after. Puss opens up to perrito about how he is on his last life and is afraid of death. Really calmly Perrito replies "It's okay. It's okay to be afraid" showing that his emotions are valid and not something to be ashamed of. And then puss opens up about the backstory w Kitty and how it made him feel, and Perrito acknowledged that it would be a good idea to actually talk to Kitty about how he felt. I LOVE kids movies that show that emotions are valid and communication is important.
Perrito could have been just another annoying comic relief. However, not only were his jokes funny, but he was also the heart of the whole movie too.
Perrito is actually a good comic relief
@@michaelstrong5383 there's another video that goes into this which you can probably find pretty easily, but he manages to be avoid the pitfalls of most animated comic relief characters because he's a real character. he has realistic emotions and feels like his own person, rather than feeling like a device the movie uses whenever it wants a cheap laugh. take the panic attack scene for example: if this were just about any other movie, he'd have been completely oblivious to puss's emotional stress. instead, he reacts realistically, and helps puss calm down. outside of just that scene, he's written in such a way that he only annoys the characters in the movie and not the audience, because the audience can clearly see he has good heart and really wants to help puss succeed. puss and kitty are the ones who dont see that. its just so impressive that they managed to make one of the most despised tropes of modern animation this good, its a great example of this movie's incredible writing.
I wish I had a guy like Perrito when I had a panic attack
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I feel like how these three villians work structurally is really underrated, because they're all different types. Goldie is the redeemable villain, Jack Horner the comedic villain, and Death is the genuine threat. It wouldn't work without any of them. The fact that Death only appears in four scenes means he's a credible threat in all of them, that never lets up. Goldie has an arc of her own to make the movie feel richer, and Jack Horner is there to keep the pace up for both of them, he functions kind of as the ticking clock of this movie. He's also extremely funny, and possibly a better comedic relief than Perrito.
This movie was such a flex and I can't exaggerate that...
Exactly. The evil monster, the sympathetic antagonist, and the force of nature all blending into one movie. It's really incredible
Declawing a cat is genuinely so traumatic irl, as a former vet assistant that part made me cry by itself 😭 They literally remove the cat's entire first knuckle bone and leave the wounds relatively open with little pain management after the surgery. It's really a sick and misunderstood procedure.
Should people just leave cat claws as they naturally are or occasionally try and trim, file, or cut them down? Just curious
@@johnharvelhines9803yes
@@johnharvelhines9803If you leave the claws, the cat usually should be fine (it needs a scratching pole of course), but you may cut/trim the claws a bit and it should be okay too (you just need to be careful not to cut too much, since cats' claws have nerve endings inside - unlike humans - so if you cut the nerve, it would be very painful for the cat). You can find tutorials how to properly cut the cat's claws and not hurt them on the internet. Oh, and the same goes for dogs' claws as well!
I like my cat with claws, they bite gradually less after a week since the last time i trim his nail
@@secretname4190that may be fine if they’re able to scratch them shorter with scratching posts, but you need to take care if they’re older cats.
Nails don’t stop growing, so they’ll curve right back into the paw if they get long enough. Just checking once a month or so is enough to catch them before that point.
The motif of Puss, "Never having been touched by a blade" is extra genius if you consider the scene where Kitty gives him a haircut with her gatito blade. So the line dually serves to showcase both Puss's supposed invincibility _as well_ as his abstinence from worthwhile affection, such as from Kitty, which then comes full circle in the climax when Puss _uses_ that same gatito blade to get the edge on the Big Bad Wolf. A direct clashing between the blade that was used to help him and the blade that was used to hurt him.
Yes, but i think the motif was used mostly to bring irony to the scene where death skims him with his sickle.
@@rabies6418yeah that’s why it’s “extra” genius because wether coincidental or not it added more depth to a great motif :)
Repost if you’ve never felt the touch of a blade (or a woman)
@@TheEggoEffectFun fact: nobody who cooks regularly can say to have never felt the touch of a blade.
@@NeroCM Lmao
In my opinion, Jack Horner was like a combination of some of the best Disney Villains over the past century.
- The Wealth of Cruella De Vil.
- The Furious determination of Captain Hook
- The Comical Wrath of The Queen Of Hearts
- The Humor of Hades
- The Gluttonous desire for power of Ursula
- The Greed of Prince John
- The Ego of Judge Frollo
- The Pride of Gaston
- And he's proud of being a destructive and evil Monster like Maleficent.
Plus, his ultimate goal is extremely similar to that of Jafar - acquiring a magical wish-granting device and using its wish-granting powers to become the most powerful being in the world.
@@farlong4948, Jafar also resembles the Envy of the power he wishes he had, with a touch of Lady Tremaine and the Evil Queen.
Jafar fits more with The Gluttonous desire for power. Remember, when nobody respected him as the Sulton, his entire goal, he wished to be a sorcerer, and then when he realized he wasn't the most powerful being next to the genie, he wished to become one. The guy could not be satisfied, which led to his downfall.
One thing to admire about Jack too is he's not just evil for the sake of it, he's ambition about it. He's found being bad more rewarding than being good. He fully embraces being evil to the point where he deeply resents "Little" Jack Horner, a cheerful little boy who sings about "What a good boy am I?!"
A good villain strives to be something bigger and resents their original selves. They are obsessed with image instead of true joy.
Which makes Puss's arc much more powerful since he learns to be joyful of his existence rather than his image.
The irony
My favorite hidden detail of Last Wish is the fact that Death only ever appears after the bar when someone else in the story is killed. He shows up in Horner's factory after the map theif is turned to gold, in the battle with Horner after Horner kills several of his men in the crossfire, and in the finale only after the last of Horner's henchmen dies to the Wish Barrier (and is doubtlessly there for Horner himself).
What about the cave?
@@danielwoods3896 Puss' past lives?
@@danielwoods3896technically, Death is everywhere. So while he came there because he was angry at Puss for wasting his lives, he was technically also there for Jack because he was going to die anyway at the end so Puss was the point of least resistance.
One thing about Goldi’s story that I haven’t heard anyone mention yet is that she keeps telling the bears that her wish will make them rich. I think that implies that she honestly believes that not only is she better off with a human family, but that the bears will be better off without her, too.
or she was just lying to them so they'd get her there
@@TheMiels That's also possible, but given that she loves them on some level deep inside, it's interesting to think of it in a different way
In a way, I think she was doing that for Baby especially- since we know both Mama and Papa have fully accepted and embraced her as their daughter, Baby's always got an undertone of "She's not my sister- she's not even my species! She's just some girl who broke in and ate all the food." and I kind of think that argument has been going on longer then the movie...
Baby didn't really MEAN it- but he DID say it.
I think theres also a hint of baby feeling like she was praised more than him. "I don't have dingleberries..." "Nah, you DO... you DO son..."
Oh wooooow.
Awwww. I never thought about it that way, but it makes sense!
What I love about Jack is his honesty. everyone in this movie lied in some way, even Death disguised as a bountyhunter or Perrito who pretended to be a cat, only Jack from the very beginning was telling the truth about his motives, character and treatment of others. which is ironic as the biggest baddest of the movie. He may be a monster, but he's never lied to you and he's always been honest
“You’re not gonna shoot a puppy are you Jack?”
“Yeah, in the face, why?”
"Puss, I've *literally* never lied"
Fitting since his villainy originated from being jealous of Pinocchio
To be fair death never claimed to be a bounty hunter, he was just so over puss's shit he didn't bother correcting him.
I'm unconvinced. I'd count turning someone into gold as lying because that's clearly not what the opposite party was expecting when they agreed with "giving someone their weight in gold" as payment. Plus, remember the first interaction between him and Softpaws in the movie.
Jack Horner: "You robbed me!"
Kitty Softpaws: "YOU set me up!"
Setting someone up implies a plan that involves you lying about a deal, plan or whatever that you made with someone, for personal gain
Another thing to note is that Death is literally bending the rules while still doing his job, he only appears when Puss is about to die, Against the giant, while drinking, being chased by Jack, and when being shot at with unicorn horns, he’s giving Puss the chance to make his 9th life worth, then he just goes for the kill afterwards. It makes death REAL, and an actual threat, you can practically feel Puss’ anxiety not just because of how spectacularly they convey his emotions, but because it makes YOU actually afraid of death.
I will never get over how 2022 managed to make 2 currently existing gag characters from iconic franchises (Puss in Boots and Saul Goodman) and somehow turn them into one of the deepest and most human and layered characters in their respective franchises
Lmao I never thought about Saul Goodman being a gag character. Yes he was comedic but I never realized his wits also relate to just being plain smarter in humorous ways, like a gag character. "I know a guy... Who knows a guy... Who knows this rain man type guy..." Like how competent can one be at being a criminal?
Another reason the panic attack scene is so good is when Perro says “well, that’s ok, to be afraid!” and Puss responds with “no, not for Puss in Boots!”
Whenever I feel stressed out or angry and someone says “it’s ok to feel that way,” I think “Not for me, I’m better than this, I have to be better than this.”
It’s not a very healthy mindset and I’ve had to overcome it along with Puss. It *is* okay to feel those feelings, that’s just life.
This is one of the deepest comments I have ever read.
I heard once that one of the biggest reasons panic attacks are so debilitating is because we try to do our best to put a stop to them when they are coming. Thinking that we can't panic i need to reign this in and take control Instead of taking the time to let it happen. Its okay to have those feelings. Attempting to halt them is like trying to hold back a flood. Eventually the dam is going to break and its going to be worse in the end.
Are we the same person? I am similar, constantly thinking of myself as a perfectionist, in everything. I am still working to overcome it, and I have made great strides to do so.
I hope you're doing okay
It reminded me of one episode from the first season of The Legend of Korra.
She kept claiming she has no fear, challenged the group of revolutionaries for a fight and they quickly humbled her. She finally admitted she was scared, no longer thought she was invincible, and cried for the first time in the show.
The lesson is the same: it's okay to be afraid.
This movie also gives Puss a reason to be hanging out with Shrek in Shrek 5. When he accepts his mortality, of course he's going to want to spend time with people he considers his friends. To savor every moment he spends around the people he cares about.
I hope Shrek 5 is consistent with his character and that he has a substantial role in that movie beyond just being Shrek's buddy. I don't need him to be a main character per say but he should be important and have a role of his own with actual agency, which I feel the previous Shrek moves besides maybe 2 failed to do.
@@lordofdarkness4204 It's definitely gonna be a tough one cause now we have Perrito and Kitty as additions. Sure, they can choose the easy way and made them just "there" or becoming a hostage of some sort, but I still hope they still have their own role
Perrito is the gold standard for comedy sidekick: relevant, emotionally engaging, helpful, and still funny.
I think it’d be wonderful to have a movie down the line where Puss does finally lose this last life, but in a far more dignified fashion, maybe old age, or a heroic sacrifice. But more importantly I want that to lead to one last confrontation, and conversation with Death. They did say they’d see each other again. At the end. And I’d love to see them just talk. Maybe like old friends who haven’t seen each other in years. But I think it’d be the best way to end off whatever saga this character goes through in the future.
I apologize for clunky wording it’s 2 am
@@cowboybarbaryn1302dw about it this is a really good comment
Also, I love how everyone's finding their way onboard the "Jack Horner is an allegory for how much of a duchebag company modern disney has become" train
they've always been a douchebag company
Enslaving fairy tales for their own selfish means and hoarding them for no one else to use and punishing those who dare try to cross them yep sounds like disney
And people still liked him. That checks out
much better than being the "Anti-Steven Universe"
@@gamerstheater1187 I'm sorry what?
The Goldilocks arc is actually meta when you think about it - not terrible, not great, just right…
Oh yeah, you're right, just right.
I thought it was great, honestly.
*Really?!*
that's not what just right means???
Yes
Puss’s panic attack scene was one of the scenes in the film to get me actually emotional for how well it was handled, so I like to personally thank you Schafrillas for highlighting the craftsmanship of that scene.
Fun fact: The whistle Death performs is from an old Venezuelan Folktale called "El Silbon, or The Whistler". The tune is played C, D, E, F, G, A, and B in that order. Going high on the F and coming back down to B, it's a grizzly story that I won't post here but I thought this was interesting and worth sharing
*grisly. Grizzly is a bear!
@@xintrosi6829 Ok
"C, D, E, F, G, A, and B in that order" is just "do re mi fa sol la ti"... it's scale
I'm glad studios are making films like Spiderverse and The Last Wish to really drive home that animation isn't just for kids, and can be a masterpiece in it's own right.
Can thank arrogant western boomers for that. Mankind has used visual art as a medium for thousands of years and now it's only for children because you grew up on Looney Toons and The Jetsons? really sad honestly
There’s nothing wrong with a film being for kids, let’s not act like “for kids” and “shitty” are synonyms. It does a disservice to all of us
@@babyblouie4761 I didn't say this is for kids, I said it's not "just" for kids. This is by and large a kids movie.
Elemental is way better
the key part is that while the animation is top notch... what truly makes them the masterpieces they are is actual good storytelling (something disney lost in favor of superficial virtue signaling)
Something that is cool is that Perrito helps everyone in the story. He helps Puss realize that one life is enough, he helps Kitty gain trust again, he helps the Bears and Goldi by telling them that found family is better than blood family, and he is also the main distraction for Jack at the end.
He helps Jack to the grave
He also helps the audience to restore faith in the "goofy sidekick" trope
I would die for Perrito
"don't f up kung fu panda 4"
well that didn't age well.
God, the concentration it must take to not keep saying "Puss in Boots: The Last Airbender" for almost 50 minutes deserves respect
A fun detail I noticed is that in "Fearless Hero" (Hero's Version) one of the lyrics foreshadows the main theme of the film. As the song plays, Puss boasts about random things (Who's brave and ready for trouble?) and the crowd sings back to him "You are!" however later in the song Puss says "Puss in Boots is never afraid" yet the crowd sings back "You are!"
Nah he tap danced after he said Puss in Boots is never afraid
Let's not forget to mention the infamous blade boast as well...
I watched this film 8 hours ago. And within this time, I've randomly read so many insightful comments about this movie under various videos. The insights just keep coming lol. Wow. Like the one, in which the bell rang 7 times representing 7 deaths of Puss symbolically, then the 8th bell rang by killing him the 8th time, was really amazing.
YES!! I noticed that too! It’s a very cool detail, and I haven’t seen anyone mention it before!
for real
This is one of my all time favorite movies
Very good
Nice
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So funny movie I have watched 😁😁😁😁
nice
Fun fact Deaths Whistle is 8 beats long and then in there last fight it’s 9 beats.
Also Death appeared when Puss died you see his eyes in the bushs.
"can you do the same for kung fu panda 4 pretty please?" aged like milk.
Sorry about the border I added to avoid copyright. Unless you like the border for some reason in which case it was 100% a stylistic choice
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Honestly the whole bit of the bears accepting Goldi’s wish just shows a stronger relationship. That a person who cares about someone else is willing to support them even if that means losing them from their life.
I think it makes the moment way sadder, too, cause it's like they care so much about her that they can't even bring themselves to be mad.
I also believe the characters of Goldi and the 3 Bears are yet another subversion of the stereotype of those expected of them in children's media.
Papa Bear is usually depicted as a grouch in charge of the family, Mama Bear is usually the sweet wishy washy one who thinks everyone is sweet, baby bear is dumb, and Goldie or any other human character is always trying to outsmart the bears and you're supposed to root for them.
It was so refreshing to see Papa Bear looked like he's be intimidating but was actually the more easy going and excepting one, Mama Bear was the commanding one who still showed motherly love despite her aggressions, and Baby Bear despite being labeled as dimwitted, was actually smart in knowing that Goldi had other agendas. And Goldi this time was someone you inevitably couldn't root for since in a sense she was outsmarted her bear family.
One thing I noticed that I don't see many people talking about is Perrito's 3rd location. We see the first and second locations, that being the Pocket Full of Posies and the River of Relaxation, but we and the characters never see the Field of Quick and Easy Solutions. I feel like the fact that the characters never encountered it showed that not all of your problems can be solved in a quick flash, and that it takes effort and confrontation to solve your problems and truly be happy.
I also love that it's specifically the Gatito blade that protects Puss from actually dying at the hands of Death, because it was given to him by Kitty on this adventure. He lost the sword at the exact time that his identity as a hero shattered. Puss in Boots HAD been touched by a blade. He FELT fear. How could he be the LEGENDARY PUSS IN BOOTS, if the legends weren't even true? The Gatito blade was given to him by someone who the legend drove him away from, and without that legend there, he was finally able to develop meaningful relationships with the people aound him. While he is building said relationships, he gains the Gatito blade, which he uses to fight for the wish alongside everyone he cares about. Given the fact that it was this one life and its connections that flashed before his eyes and made him cling to his one remaining life, having the Gatito blade, despite being so small and insignificant compared to the legend (sword), be what saved him from Death was just SO poetic. It was NEVER about a legend standing up to and fighting Death.
It was about Puss discovering who he was OUTSIDE of the legend, and what he found to truly give life meaning. And that was what saved his life.
Props to Schafrillas to shedding light on this underrated masterpiece. Really needed more attention!
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Underrated? My dude, everyone is raving about it.
@@Seussenshmirtz That's the joke
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wouldn't call it underrated
Perrito is the best example of how to make a funny side character. Yeah he’s a goof but it’s not his only character trait. He can express other emotions and isn’t oblivious or unaware of what’s going on or what other people are feeling. I genuinely believe he knows what his previous family was trying to do to him, but he chooses to look at it in the way he describes it in the movie.
I watched a video called Character backstories from TWA describing how much cartoons, superhero movies and anime use traumatic backstories. Perrito is an example of someone with a dark backstory but didnt become an edgelord
The bears supporting Goldi in getting the wish also further cements them as a more than worthy family for her and prove they have the unconditional love for her that many see as the love of an idealistic family.
1:32
oh boy, does he know?
I love that in the climax, every character sees puss's fight with death, EXCEPT for jack and his bakers, who have already died or in jack's case who is stuck in one of his own magical collections. It shows that Jack was so enveloped in his own desires and achievments that he forgot how tragic death can be. Hell, he killed his bakers without any sign of remorse. In a weird way, Jack is kind of like the worst case scenario puss. Both got so absorbed in themselves that they laughed in the face of death and/or caused it for others. Kind of like how Tamatoa is a worst case scenario Maui.
I really like the contrast schaffillas made with Disney as a company which makes Dreamworks such a chad
We have 3 archetypes of villains in this movie:
- Death, the non-evil entity whose aim is to challenge the protagonist's values.
- Goldilocks, the redeemable sympathetic one.
- Jack Horner, the classic evil for the sake of it type.
... And they all somehow didn't conflict each other and make a mess, it's such a miracle.
Facts.
The fact that the writers managed to find a good balance of how much screentime each villain should have was masterful. It's something every other movie should take notes on.
antagonists seems more fitting, because other than Jack they aren´t really "evil"
edit: yes death is bad, but the other four aren't really bad people so the point still stands
Bro,death it's completly evil
death is evil. straight up.
"Again, dont f* up kung fu panda 4"
o7
Also Death’s choice of weapon fits very well with his character, since he uses 2 sickles, which were traditionally used for harvesting dying crops, just like him.
I think it’s also worth mentioning that the Cricket not only serves as a subversion of Disney but also a criticism of their lack of purely evil villains now. The Cricket’s character arc involves him searching for any redeeming qualities in Jack which, when I saw the film, to me felt like Dreamworks poking fun at Disney only really making redeemable villains now by presenting a version of Jiminy Cricket to be met with a character that goes against all of the redeemable aspects of Disney’s current villains.
So the cricket wants Jack to be a Disney villain fr 😂
You caught that as well? I laud and applaud Dreamworks for doing that.
Sometimes, sick people like that exist.
Psychosis can sometimes be hereditary, and not just "nUrTurEd."
Fooking hell, what a breath of fresh air.
I swear, everytime I heard about Dreamwork's making fun of Disney, that just makes the studio so much more of a gigachad
@@minty6623I just fucking LOVE when people rightfully dunk on Disney by doing what they do, but much better
I know other people have mentioned this but I love how all three villians are the enjoyable “tropes” (using that word loosely) that people enjoy. Goldi and her family being the sympathetic ones that get redeemed, Jack being the hilarious one that is just genuinely evil without any more depth and Death being the most absolutely terrifying and threatening part of the entire movie.
3 different flavors of villains hell yeah I love it.
3 tiered cake of villainy
48:01 congratulations, they did. And they released megamind 2. They've killed their redemption
43:43 I think the bigger thing than the kick IMO is that Puss used both of his blades to block Death's sickles that were coming at him from each side during that hit. He could not have done that without the Gatito blade further showing how he had come to accept that he needed others in his life to succeed.
This movie being one of the few animated movies by DreamWorks or any other _mostly_ family oriented animated studio to actually have the BALLS to show blood and legitimately scary moments.. Is further testament to how deserving this movie is of all the praise.
Yes! I'm so frustrated when movies only get a PG or PG-13 rating because of potty humor or raunchy jokes and "thematic elements"; it's so refreshing to see a movie that goes hard for scares and intensity.
This is like the Kung Fu Panda movies or Prince of Egypt. All of them are here to tell the story in the best way possible, regardless of what the rating is.
I also think it's important to note the visual contrast between Puss and Death, as the two are designed to be as opposite as possible:
Obviously, wolves and cats are typically considered polar opposites, but more features exist.
- Puss's eyes are green and wide, Death's are red and fairly small
- Puss uses a thin and straight blade, Death uses thick and curved sickles
- Puss is small, while Death is tall
The only similarity between the two is their accents.
I also love the scene where Death disarms Puss, removes Puss's hat, and slashes his boots and cape. He fundamentally strips him of everything he is, and only then does he use his parrying dagger. Parrying daggers, as far as I'm aware, are fairly common in fencing, and it visually shows a change in his fighting style: instead of dodging/not fearing blades, he actively deflects/protects himself.
First time I watched this movie I thought the Wolf was just suppose to be a normal bounty hunter who served as a metaphor for Puss' fear of death, so that scene where the Wolf reveals himself as death, right down to claiming he wasn't just a metaphor, was the biggest brain explosion ever
Just to clarify, I think people often forget how vital Donkey was for the original series. He is the comedic relief, but he has proven to put Shrek and Fiona in the correct mind set when that are at a low point, even if he is ridiculed at first. Its stunning how Perrito comes in to fill Donkey's (shoes?), yet still feel so unique.
Perrito is much wiser than donkey though. I don't think it's fair to say that he fills the same role.
perrito fills donkey's hooves
@@berto17 Lol
@@twrecks6279 Yeah, Donkey's kindof just a persistent, optimistic goof. Perrito has that going for him too, but has these horrific origins that make the character himself a lesson on how far appreciating what you have can go, which is exactly the protagonist's arc. He's not just tolerable, he's thematically significant.
(and much less annoying than donkey, but maybe that's just my taste)
@@peeblekitty5780 Agree, though I like both characters.
I heard a theory that the wishing star does not actually try to stop you from getting the wish. Instead when you hold the map and follow the directions, it tries to show you why you don't need it, as we saw with Goldilocks and Puss, but it will still give it to you if you feel you need it.
The Wish knew Purrito did not want a wish, but saw his past and wanted to give him something easy to help him after what he has been through.
I agree with that theory. If you pay attention to the moment that puss first has the map, one of the locations is the "Undertaker Ridge", wich probably would make puss confronts his fear of death. Later he find the "Cave of the lost Souls" when he is mock by his past lives, showing that he had change.
Also, when kitty holds the map, the locations are "Swamp of infinite sorrows", "mountains of misery" and "Abbys of eternal loneliness" wich would make kitty reflect on her fear of trusting someone.
I only disagree about the part of Perrito, i think the forest only make easy for him because it really knew he didnt want any wish, so that was no point in trying to keep him away.
Purritos' wish was to become a therapy dog, and I think the Forrest also protected the wish from this by teaching purrito how to be a therapy dog without the wish. The pocket full of posies represents disease, the field of quick and easy solutions represents suicide, and the river of relaxation also represents suicide and mirrors how purrito's family tried to drown him. Each location teaches him an how to deal with different struggles of those who would need his help
Puss’s “pick it up” gave me chills lol
34:18 isn't it ironic. That the life that calls out Death for cheating is the one that got taken by cheating at a card game. I just find this a under appreciated detail
I absolutely LOVE how the eye colors never seem to change in the environments they’re in, they’re so saturated and it makes every character POP
Especially the bakers
One small thing I'd add is that, as a native spanish speaker, I always preferred to watch movies in the original english dub since in my opinion most movies with an american spanish dub the characters talk in this sort of neutral accent that has always felt kinda weird to me. The american spanish dub for this movie, however, is AMAZING, since each character has a distinct accent which makes them stand out a lot. Puss (voiced by Antonio Banderas just like in english) has a spanish (from Spain) accent, Perrito has kind of a mexican accent, and (my favorite) Goldi and the bears talked in a argentinian accent, all of which made me prefer the american spanish dub instead of the original for the first time in ages.
Also, death's voice actor in the original dub is a brazillian actor ,Wagner Moura, who was Pablo Escobar in Narcos and Capitão nascimento in Elite Squad. Makes death character even more awsome.
I didn't know that was a thing until your comment. That's really cool!
That's actually a neat touch
I only thing I prefer in the English version is Deaths voice
wait, what u mean "american spanish", most movies are dubbed in mexico or venezuela, or are you from spain?
Kids CAN handle dark stuff, they even like it sometimes haha (although I have heard about kids running out in cinemas so maybe Death was a bit much lol). As a kid Coraline used to terrify me, but I would always ask my mom to rent it again because I loved it. It was so cool and scary and fantastical. Probably rented it about 5-6 different times so I think that shows kids can love scary stuff.
children's stories need to be darker and more disturbing otherwise when kid's today grow up they won't be prepared for the outside world hence why more movie's like this need to happen and there need to be less like ulumanation film's
40:40 I have a theory that in the Shrek universe a cat managed to trick Death into giving all cats nine lives
Also, if Puss had chosen to simply wish for more lives, Death would have still killed him as many times as necessary. Kinda like that warrior cat scene
"Wow I really am a therapy dog, aren't I?"
God just the thought of a line like that being in the movie makes me cringe so hard that I'd probably implode.
I'm super glad they didn't verbally bring that back up and just let Perrito's actions speak for themselves and let the audience be responsible for remembering that tidbit about him
That was a good example of the "show don't tell aspect" in storytelling and I'm glad DreamWorks showed some restraint
Knowing Disney they would have around 5 lines like that, with a small back and forth between Puss where he would get frustrated w/ Perrito and snap at him
I know this might sound a bit cheesy but I don’t care, when Puss said to Kitty that one life spent with her was all he could ever wish for gave me the most warm feeling when I first watched this masterpiece of a movie.
I Disagree about this movie being masterpiece, i think 2011 puss in the boots film was better because
In last wish They messed up relationship between kitty softpaws and puss for no reason.
in first movie(2011 version which most of you have not watched) when puss was flirting with kitty softpaws
Softpaws told him "you don't know me cat i only care about money"
it turned out she was hired agent of humpty dumpty and helped him to throw puss in the prison,
But kitty softpaws then regretted her decision because time she spended with puss changed her, that's why she helped puss escape from prison.
But in sequel (last wish) kitty softpaws
Hated puss because he was egoist who only cared about being legend,
But in 2011 puss in boots movie, puss was actully very heroic and cared about helping people more than being legend
While in this movie they made it look like he wasted all of his lives in past and only now he became heroic,
Also puss only spending his last life with kitty is false he did spent previous life with kitty softpaws this 2 had amazing love story in 2011 puss in the boots movie
@@lowlevelanimations ???
@@lowlevelanimationsLearn how to type coherent sentences and then we'll take your "disagreement" seriously.
@@lowlevelanimationswhat the hell r u saying
@@lowlevelanimationssorry i don’t speak gibberish
0:01 selling out
0:11 opening discussion
1:44 Part 1: the animation was very good
5:09 selling out the Snyder cut
6:28 Part 2: team friendship!
18:49 Part 3: goldi and ze bears
24:05 Part 4: jack horner is funnie
33:35 Part 5: Death
46:02 Epilogue: yeah it's peak cinema
God, I love the music chosen for each entry.
Part 1: Music from Mario 3D World, to emulate the chipper and vibrant animation.
Part 2: Music from Kirby 64, because Kirby had a Team Friendship of his own in Crystal Shards.
Part 3: Music from Banjo-Kazooie, because this is a Family of Bears.
Part 4: Music from Warioware. Wario has a lot in common with Jack Horner.
Part 5: I don't know what this music is from, but it perfectly matches the dread and Fear of Death.
I appreciate that Death's weapons came together to create a circle. A circle of life for instance
I do have to add this in, hate me or not. But Kitty is one of the few characters in media that is good representation for disabled people. They never make that her entire personality. It's a part of her that she learned to work with. I remember seeing someone make a video about her being disabled.
Also, I love how you can tell what race they are even though their cats. Puss has a Spainared accents, Spainared actor and mentiins Spainard culture like bull running or his favorite dish. Whike Kitty has a Mexican accent, Mexican actress, and mentions Mexican culture. Quinceañera, a party for 15 year old Mexican girls. Or how her mask can be a luchadora mask. A fighting style from Mexico. Down to even the type of swords they use. Spainared and Mexican culture do entwine but Puss sword is the traditional musketeer sword. While Kitty's is on the heavier/flatter side and looks more like a knife. They still originate from Spain but I still appreciate that little detail. How most blades Mexicans have will look like a knife while the traditional one in Spain is longer and skinner.
And I love it more how the Spanish verison of this film, keeps their accents. Puss keeps his Spainard one, Kitty keeps her Mexican one.
And lastly, Spain has a myth called "Estrella de los Deseos" where there's a fossil in the shape of a star that is believed to grant you a wish. While Death plays a huge role in Mexican culture. I don't know if Dreamworks planned all that, but if they did, that is a lot of careful planning.
How is Kitty disabled? I'm genuinely curious
@darryl0745
ruclips.net/video/61HRNXuehPU/видео.htmlsi=bVHL4somvlXrBBii
I would rather not be the one to explain it in detail since I'm not disabled. But the video is really good at explaining the representation she brings.
@@darryl0745 Declawing cats is, functionally, disabling them; it's not just removing their claws it's removing the entire first knuckle of their toes, and leaves them with balance issues, limited ways to defend themselves, significantly more stress than cats in their same circumstances without the declawing would experience, and chronic pain for pretty much the entire rest of their lives
I honestly kind of wish they Had explicitly given Kitty chronic pain issues to tie in with this, even if it was just one line and some tiny animation details, but i'd say the reasonable and poignant showing of her trauma (given all of her trust issues stem from this One moment, where people she loved and cared about chose to deliberately disable her for their own disgusting, selfish, complete nonissues) does make up for that, plus we do have a tendency to see gained-not-born disabilities in media always shown from when they're First Gained, not when the person has lived with it for a while, and Kitty is the opposite of that which is pretty refreshing tbh, but this is a tangent
TLDR; declawing is just deliberately disabling cats and leaves them with lifelong issues even beyond the fact their entire first knuckle literally got removed for reasons that are Literally always bullshit, Kitty is disabled due to being declawed and experiences both the physical And mental trauma from that, the mental trauma of which is what's most focused on
@@jocabedrivera7756Holy crap, you guys watch Oakwyrm too??
I think Goldilocks’s characterization and motivation for her wish doesn’t have to be malicious. She says multiple times that the reason for her motivation is that she’s not a bear. It’s not that she’s too good for them, it’s that she feels she’ll never truly fit in with them because she isn’t really one of them. Unironically, wishing to be a bear would fulfill that missing connection she’s after. She’s not moving on to something better, she’s trying to find a family she won’t subconsciously feel excluded in. When she realizes she does have a family is also when she realizes they’ve accepted her as one of them a long time ago and don’t even think about how she’s not a bear or part of their biological family. Less of an “you’re not good enough for me” and more of an “I’m not good enough for you” thing…
I noticed the way she kind of doesn't even believe her own statement and that it's more of a feeble excuse than a legitimate reason for why she wants a biological family. It reveals her insecurities, for sure, but she went with that just to have an excuse while not truly delving into the root cause of her insecurities. As an adopted kid, there's kind of a lot of worry of feeling abandoned again or out of place in a family you didn't grow up in. It feels nice to touch on this.
And her not necessarily being a villain or the bears for that matter is what makes her character work so well.
I also enjoy how there isn't like, a third act misunderstanding in the movie. Like "Oh Puss, I can't believe you did this!"
""No, thats not what it looks like!""
Those words are said, but... this is NOT a misunderstanding. Puss IS actually betraying them by using the wish for himself. He doesn't really have an explanation or excuse that could easily turn thjngs around
Anyone else always just get super chills whenever they hear death's whistling?
A detail (which may be a bit of a stretch) that I picked up on during a rewatch with my friends was the use of Kitty’s mask as a way of signifying her relationship with Puss throughout the story. When introduced, she and Puss are not on good terms, and she can be seen wearing her mask with gold accents. When she, Puss, and Perito team up, she removes her mask, when Puss and her reconcile she briefly wears his hat to signify their relationship healing, when she thinks Puss betrays the two of them, she puts the mask back on, and when the movie ends the two of them are seen in the same outfit with the powdered wigs. It’s a nice bit of visual storytelling.
I do not know about all of that, my good friend, but A for effort. I may be wrong, but I think she had her mask on and off on 2 nonconsecutive occasions during the climax on the star before and after Puss beat Death. But if the guys that made the movie included details like the bell the giant used being rung 7 times then finally the 8th time being the one to take Puss’ 8th life, I wouldn’t put the symbolism of Kitty’s mask past em
Also, as soon as Puss’s battle with Death concludes and the red flames go away, she takes her mask off.
It's absolutely not a stretch, i also noticed it in a later watch and it's just too on point to be a coincidence.
The amount of subtleties in this movie are just endless
W
thats what the point of the mask is
When most people think of a work as “mature,” they are quick to think of blood, violence, s@x and swears. But respecting the intelligence of the audience, and delivering themes that capitalize on that, now that is REAL maturity.
You made an indirect comparison of Velma and Puss in Boots the Last Wish 😂
no they did not@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
"Sex, Violence, and Swearing? That's not Maturity! That's scrambling to ruin a script in order to get an R rating!"
@@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 or (if you want to be original) She-Hulk to The Owl House (or Static Shock)
I mean, it had blood and ( censored ) swearing. It was just used well and to make a point. Not just for shock value.
One of the things that I like about the shrek references gotten, is that they were so reserved, but actually confirmed that these are in the same universe.
Throughout the first movie it was incredibly unclear as to wether or not it was simply a puss adventure, or it was set in a different world entirely just with puss in it.
Seeing little things like shrek, far far away, and pinnochio do confirm though “hey ya this has further consequence beyond just this”
As someone who had his first panic attack this year and much more, the panic attack scene is extremely accurate and deserves all the praise it gets. It's really not like an anxiety attack. Panic happens suddenly, in a minute you're desperate, hiperventilating, trying your best to get a hold of yourself while struggling against overwhelming fear. It usually lasts from 10 to 15 minutes but it exhausts you physically and mentally for the rest of the day, it might even happen multiple times a day. Sometimes panic attacks would disrupt my sleep and I would wake up dazed and scared for my life. Anyway, nothing I did helped so I sought professional help and I'm doing better, at least the panic attacks stopped.
What I find even cooler about Goldie's arc is that the reason her family are willing to let her go get the wish is because they care about her and what's best for her. That is what real love is, and it's quite a beautiful moment
Yeah I'm glad it didn't go in the direction of bad modern storytelling where they all just abandon her immediately out of anger. It's really good writing.
Yeah, and that made you feel for them even more, because you know just how deeply they care, not letting this (honestly perfectly justifiable) reason to be hurt and bitter and leave the mission behind get in the way of their support for her.
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“If you love something, set it free. If it comes back, it’s yours. If not, it was never meant to be.”
The first time i went to see this movie in the cinema, when puss said to kitty "one life spent with you is all that i could wish for" everybody started clapping and cheering, it was genuinely such a human moment. They did at the end as well, but the fact that they did it twice, the first after that particular line, just shows how much that part touched everyone. Gorgeous.
I find that hard to believe as an American, but as I have Indian heritage whenever I visit the theater, everyone is always cheering, clapping, even dancing. I love how foreign movie audiences react to movies like this
@@somerandoqueenfanoh you should’ve seen the theater when I was watching Across the Spiderverse. Insane
@@somerandoqueenfanI live in the UK, people are usually silent throughout movies. Dead silent. So this was a significant moment for me.
@@sallytheuselessbird I always feel that way when visiting my family in India and I watch a movie. Always magical
I feel that this movie is such a gem because it proves that butchered franchises that were once beloved and subversive CAN be brought back to life with good writing, amazing art, and general care and attention to detail. The callbacks to the other Shrek movies were perfect, it both felt new and was a love letter to the old. It redeemed itself perfectly without re-butchering the DreamWorks legacy. It makes me hopeful for modern animation again
18:07 That moment was very touchy and the first time in a Puss in Boots sequel was the most unique scene ever. Thanks to Perito just stayed calm to Puss and it felt like a quiet and emotional breakthrough.
Something I love about Death being the most personal villain is that he also parallels classic fairy tales-- and I do mean *classic.* It is very, very common for gods, especially death, to personally take offence to mortals insulting them and doing something about it. Death getting tired of someone frivolously throwing away their life and personally coming to kill them fits *perfectly* with old fairy tales. Even better? The reaper is often shown to have a love for *games.* Chess, gambling, there are tons of old tales where Death will "play with his food", giving them the chance to best him at some game or another, and getting outsmarted...though most of the time it's only temporary. Death is almost never a joke or a laughing matter in these tales, and aside from the small moment of him scolding himself for screwing around he is played completely seriously. This movie parodies fairy tales, but it also shows an intense love for them and their stories that's exemplified with how Death is handled here.
That's why I never liked the "The Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy", simply because the literal grim reaper is laughed at throughout this show and shitted on. You would think it'd be a good thing to catch the Grim reaper and it would make Billy and Mandy look cool, but to me it was utter bullshit and it frustrated me. The thought of Death himself being enslaved to two children was just complete nonsense to me. "What makes you two entitled brats so goddamned special???" Lol
Exactly 💯 💯 this movie was 10/10 because of this. Old myths, legends, and stories express that gods, spirits, or 'forces of nature' should not be trifled with. Puss repeatedly calling death out and mocking him was only asking for trouble, and Death appearing to him at his last life was horrifying and yet awe-inspiring.
Especially the fact that Death doesn’t lose, because not only should he *never* legitimately lose, because he can’t, but because death is what gives life meaning.
@@torytellstales That show was goated and hilarious. Never cook again.
@@Fundleduds I guess I'm not cooking lol. Its good if other people like this show, I just felt bad for Grimm haha
I love the part (after the battle) when death says "¿Por qué diablos fui a jugar con mi comida?" (Translated to english as "Why the hell did I went to play with my food?") Because it implies that death wasn't taking is job seriously. The biggest enemy of puss in boots, the one that gives him anxiety and made him leave the first time he met him... was just playing with puss. It was a joke for him. If he would be serious at his job... Puss would be dead in his first formal encounter.
I'm sorry for my horrible english, I'm not a native english speaker.
Your English isn't horrible at all. You explained your point well
Another thing is that part after Death's swearing where he decides to show Puss the respect he earned. After all, Death _did_ want Puss to value his life after throwing his previous ones away so wastefully, so he can't even be mad that Puss decided to man up; that was what he wanted in the first place.
Yeah. But he raises valid points.
Those are antagonistic traits. Not evil ones. An antagonist can have fun at their job, so long as they raise valid points for the character to change.
Antagonists can be evil people.
The Joker does not give a shit about Gotham, Batman, or the world. The Joker is evil. The Joker can be classified as a villain.
However, he is also antagonistic, only because he challenges Batman's beliefs.
An antagonist and a villain can sometimes overlap, such as this case.
It bothers me that people constantly misclassify Death in this movie by saying he is entirely a villain. Nothing is ever all black or all white when it comes to stories.
Gray, is in fact a shade allowed in this world, you know.
@@Whimsy3692huh, and deaths coloring as the wolf is grey.. cool!
It's still a wonderful detail, and personally, your English is great 😁
Schafrillas is to Shrek what MatPat is to FNAF. Yes theres a LOOOOT of content to consume but its so informative that you watch it anyway
wait, he dies from a giant bell? that reminds me of another good movie... they'll sure remember him
One thing I noticed about the third obstacles on the map to the wishing star is that they weren’t physical obstacles but actually something that’s supposed to show that they may be wishing for the wrong thing. The Cave of Lost Souls showed Puss how arrogant he used to be, the Nostalgic Pines showed Goldie that she didn’t need to wish for a new family, and even Kitty’s unseen Cliffs of Eternal Loneliness even echo her trust issues (and of course, Perrito didn’t have a wish, so there was no reason to put a psychological barrier).
I wish we could have seen Jack’s map. Though knowing that the map tailors the environment to make teaching the star difficult, Jack’s map probably would have led to everyone’s death.
That’s one of the main serious questions I have about the movie. At that point, why wasn’t Puss’ or Kitty’s paths with the map fiery or acidy like it was at the start, and why wasn’t Goldi’s path difficult at all considering how selfish her wish was?
@@johnharvelhines9803Because Goldilocks' wish was simple and that is to have a family she felt that she would belong with.
Puss? He wasted life after life in the most wasteful ways possible and he thinks he deserves more....because.
Kitty? Well the hellish landscapes in her map signify how deep rooted and full of pain her trust issues jer from being declawd by her owners to just her general life as an outlaw.
Probably something very humbling and/or fairy tales turning on him
@@johnharvelhines9803I don’t recall us ever actually seeing Kitty’s map after her first bout, and when Puss gets ahold of the map, it is dark, disturbing, and filled with his internal horrors. There wasn’t any fire, because assumedly after the first bit it would change, much like how the tulips didn’t appear after they got through them.
@@johnharvelhines9803 The first part of the map had to do with the acid and fire, the other parts could have easily changed biomes. We don't see the entirety of Perrito's map be the pockets full of posies, and even Goldi and the bear's cabin had a hard transition to a snow biome.
Hope that maybe made sense!
Regarding those who think that Kitty didn't show up at the wedding, here are my thoughts on why I think she absolutely did show up:
1) She spends the first half of the movie clearly being pissed at Puss for something, and by the way that he grabbed her by the tail, it's clear that they know each other more than simple acquaintances (hinting at a deeper relationship)
2. From seeing how she double-crossed Goldi and the bears, we know that she's more than willing to lie if she seems it necessary
3. Kitty's wish, as shown by the map, is all about companionship, so why wouldn't she show up at the wedding (as marriage is often seen as the ultimate companionship)
4. She overhears Puss tall about Santa Caloma with Perrito and how much he regrets it, which clearly affects her by the look in her eyes (which thus hints at the reality of what he did vs them double-crossing each other)
5. If she didn't show up, how would she know that Puss didn't show up (i.e. being left at the altar implies that you're at the altar in the first place)
6. If she didn't show up, wouldn't that make her a bit of a hypocrite, and thus lessen the severity of Puss' wrongdoing?
Which then leads me to why she would lie about not showing up
1. She is helping Puss not to wallow in self-loathing, since she can already see that he's sorry
2. She's making the point about why would she want to show up for "that guy" (i.e. Puss' narcissistic legendary self), and acknowledging how much she's seen him change
I hope this is a sufficient explanation for that particular sequence, because that seems to be where most people are confused with this movie.
Either way, this movie is still amazing 😍😁😍
Edit: On a separate note, for those who say that, "Well, she has trust issues, so that's why she didn't show up," riddle me this: Where did those trust issue COME FROM? Because when you look back at the ending of the first PUSS IN BOOTS movie, they were more than trusting of each other at that point (even kissing each other behind Puss' hat). Compare that to the beginning of this movie, and she absolutely despises his guts, so SOMETHING had to have happened for her to feel so betrayed by him (which wouldn't work if she was not there for him to betray).
Anyways, I'm glad to see so much discussion in the comments section over this point, because this movie and this relationship is just SO AWESOME 😎😊😎
Counterpoint: the official art book says Kitty didn’t show up to the wedding and has story board sketches, one of her and one of Puss, looking at the church from afar at a different angles to the other. Also there’s no reason that Kitty wouldn’t have admitted to lying after she felt betrayed by Puss at the wishing star
I own the art book and pretty much what that person said. Kitty shows up on the other side of Santa Coloma like Puss. Also I think it’s fine if she’s a bit of a hypocrite. She’s not supposed to be the cleanest character.
she didn't show up cause she knew puss was still egotistical at that point. and she wasn't seeking that kind of companionship. and wanted to teach Puss a lesson as well
@@axlorg89Wouldn't the artbook just reiterate what Kitty said rather than confirm or deny what actually happened. The artbook mostly refers to Death as The Big Bad Wolf or The Wolf, also, although they do say that he's Death eventually in the description, but that's because the movie does as well.
With Kitty, it's never explained and is left in the subtext. We never get a moment where it's 100% confirmed that she showed or didn't show, but all the circumstantial evidence leading up to her saying she didn't show suggests that she's lying. Her anger is the deadest giveaway that she's lying. Someone who was stood up would be angry. Someone who made the unilateral decision to not show because they feel the other person wasn't ready wouldn't be angry like she was.
I do believe the reason she gave Puss was genuine: she thought that she was stood up _because_ Puss was too enamored by his own legend that he couldn't ever love her the way he loves himself. That's also why she was hurt and angry again when Puss ran off with the map and even still remained angry when he revealed he was on his last life. She thought that he wanted his lives back so that he can go back to being the selfish and arrogant legend he was before.
But the talk with Perrito after Puss's panic attack which she overheard made her realize that she wasn't stood up because he was an arrogant and selfish asshole, but because he was scared. Puss would probably never admit that to Kitty, and if asked would rather she think he's an asshole than someone who can feel fear and not the great legend. With that, it makes sense that she would try to ease his guilt by claiming to not show up, that way Puss has nothing to be guilty over and they can start their relationship over with a clean slate.
Really good argument.
That panic attack scene was so real for me. Had to try not to cry in cinema, and I cry every time I watch it. Now, I'm crying again by Schaffrillas finally pointing out why it's so... good.
They did not in fact, do this for kung fu panda 4
It’s funny, because the moment you said Jack was the antithesis for Goldie’s character arc makes me think Jack was actually the antagonist and foul for Goldie’s arc. Not only was he the one who forced Goldie to make a choice, but like you said: Jack has everything, but just wants more and more, while Goldie’s arc is her realizing what she already has and valuing it. This movie just works on so many different levels in its story telling.
Another thing to consider is that The Last Wish has all 3 types of antagonists and balances them out beautifully: Jack Horner- The comedically evil villain who shows no remorse and gets punished for his actions; Goldie & The 3 Bears- The sympathetic antagonists who come around in the end and add to the story’s themes; Death- The unstoppable force of nature who challenges and changes the hero.
*foil
@@chriscortez2036 Death might’ve been a force of nature… if Puss was actually dying.
@@wildfire9280Puss was seeking a wish to have extra lives again which he never truly deserved thereby violating nature itself. Sure Death violated technically as well, but was Puss supposed to expect any form of "fairness" when he's the one cheating himself.
34:10 This is what I’ve been trying to say, Death ISNT doing his job.
He said: “I find the idea of nine lives absurd, and you didn’t value any of them. So why don’t I do us both a favor, and take his last one now”
And then puss’s old life says “That’s cheating”
And as death destroys him, he says “Shh don’t tell” Indicating malicious intent rather than that of someone actually doing a required task
And that old life: died because of cheating in poker.
That doesn't make it any better. Its just the pot calling the kettle black.
And it won't ever detract that Puss never deserved the wish so he can have extra lives again. Because he never at all valued them (apart from spending it having his ego stroked).
Thats the issue why Death was somewhat justified. Most living things have only had one life. Either they die without truly living the way they wanted because their time was cut short or among other reasons.
And Puss for all his many lives, did nothing but waste them.
And we're supposed to support that: yeah Puss deserves more lives REEEE....
Puss in Boots: I laugh in the face of Death!
Death: And I took that personally.
@memecliparchives2254 no that doesn't motives for this good just because poker puss is a hypocrite
Death WAS doing his work, but got pissed by Puss lives and took matters in his own hands
@@leodsr3231 yeah, he sort of violated his position of power
This movie has gotten a ton of praise and many consider it a great film. As for me I share a very personal connection to this film. I went through my first break up when this movie released. During this time I was absolutely terrified of being around my ex because of all the memories that were attracted to her. I was terrified to feel that pain again. Every time I saw her I would start to panic and there was always this fear I would have that followed me. When I went to go see this movie I wasn’t expecting a whole lot. The trailers made it seem like just another kids movie and I had no intent of seeing it until I heard all the reviews. Once I got out of the theater I was blown away. Everything about the film was perfect to me. The visuals, the characters, the music, and the story were all just perfect. This is the only movie I have ever given a 10/10. But these aren’t the only reasons I love this film so much. I sat down and watch this character go through almost the exact same feelings I was going through. The fear, anxiety, panic these were all the feelings I had. I saw this character go through he same struggles as me and overcome it. It was inspiring to me. I really saw myself in him. For awhile this became my comfort movie. I ended up buying it on Amazon prime so that I could watch it whenever I wanted. Anytime I would think about her I would turn on puss in boots and I would start to feel better. This movie literally got me through depression. This is without a doubt my favorite movie of all time.
Man, I love John Mulaney. His performance in this movie is just as hilarious as his comedy specials.
I love the symbolism of Kitty's blade fending off death. That Kitty is Puss's inspiration for living his life.
This movie is just getting better the more I look at it. I swear I felt it was nothing special the first time I watched it; but the more I watched and found those small details, the more I realized this is an unexpected gem in storytelling.