Probably cus he spies on Hitler and play as putin on isp but isorrowprouductions is just forced hoi4 better content cus the worse the content the easier it is
I think it's unfair to criticize the most boring focus trees, having in mind that they HAVE to exist, in order for the AI to function properly in historical games. Obviously the neutrality focus tree is boring as fuck, but what else do you expect from historical Switzerland
The Generic Tree isnt really that bad, it does what it's meant to do, which is give Minor countries something to do, mostly middle eastern minors because a lot of minors have their own trees now.
@@secondpath5148 not that much something to do since it doesn't make any country join factions or declare war, more like something to build, which is always a good thing when you take over that country
Really liked American "Soviet Path" that you showcased. They also added more options and paths to the Focus Tree of the "Russia Reworked" Mod, called "A Terrible Fate". Now you can choose to either go Democratic, Non-Aligned(Tsarist or Military Junta) or Fascist. So please revisit it to show what magic can happen, should one choose to go down that path.
So the union represenstion act is a meta used by the sweatiest of vanilla USA players to get off of great deprsssion in March of 1937, along with a -10%(along with a -5% if you have 100% stability) consumer goods buff so your on total mob by around late 1938 after getting on partial mob (assuming you have 30% war support or more), along with making sure you will always have majority support in congress so the first three focuses are normal. Continue the new deal, WPA, then Agriculture adjustment act. remember its 230 days until you can do the fair labor standards act use the first 150 pp to get the silent workhorse. save the 150 pp for later Make sure that you support is above 60 senators and 261 representatives by the 5th focus. then do suspend the persecution, right after that use the 150 pp for the communist revolutionary then do worker representation act, you will need 60 senators and 261 representatives for this. You get the event which I forget its name, and you get two choices: One Which says "We must end this bloodshed, or something like that, and the other says we must not bow down to the mob Pick the *we must end this bloodshed* or the civil war will start being prepared Then do the accumulated wealth tax act, which requires the same support, but that's fine, because the worker representation act gives you a majority on congress which you can regain for the 50pp design called "reshuffle congress" The Accumulated wealth tax act will give you a -5% consumer goods spirit and reduce the Great Depression from "slow recovery" to "slow economic growth" Then do the "Reach out to the Ware" Group, which you get 3 advisors, one for another -5% consumer goods for 0 pp. Make sure you ban communism after that so you have the 95% democratic support so you can neutrality act After that the path is yours!
Dude I am one of the silent majority, I've been subbed to you for quite a while and I don't think I've ever missed a single video of you. Just wanted to let you know. Your vids are great, love them. Whenever you upload, it makes my day!
Hey man, fun video! I'm sure you're probably just joking about all the "I'm gonna jump off a bridge" stuff, but I also know that some people joke about that stuff because they're genuinely not doing well I just wanted to say that I hope it's just all jokes and that you're doing well! You're a hard working guy and a lot of people seem to be really into your stuff. You've made a lot of people happy I hope you're having a good day, man!
Am I the only one who feels like the USA focus tree was a little... lacking ? I mean don't get me wrong it definitely was an upgrade over the vanilla focus tree but I think it could have a little more, espescially in the alt-hist part.
Feels like the US doesn't really have too many alt-history paths that could be credible. Even with the ridiculousness of the German Kaiser tree, at least that's an ideology that Germany did actually have at one point. Communist America makes a little sense because it was something that was at least talked about as a possibility at one point, albeit as propaganda during the Red Scare. But there's no real chance of, say, a monarchist America, because its been a Republic since it formed
Isorrow is the definition of someone forced into creating things for the RUclips algorithm against his will. However it makes his content even better because his viewers feed off his misery
The neutral part of the generic focus tree is actually not bad, if you're playing a country that's about to be attacked later in the war and you want to spam defences.
3:55, yea that's kinda the point, you can also do it with the facist path, you dont get the silver shirt part of the tree but you can get the manifest desity part, I think you can even avoid a civil war if you do it right.
Since we never got to see a Vic 2 Czechoslovakia full campaign, any chance we might get an old fashioned isp and chill? I remember you saying you were interested in doing something like that some day.
Looking forward to seeing more on the Focuses, especially Italy considering how ignored that one is despite being a major player in the war. Keep up the good work man!
These videos are pretty neat, I enjoy these as much as the Vic 2 ones. Also, I got even better at vic2 now :D just gotta work on trade and i think i can do more crazy stuff.
@@nihilism253 I am using John's account. I don't know why he named it Angelo but hey you know what they say: you can't have the pasta without the sauce.
You can also do the war powers act AND neutrality act by using the advisor to get enough fascist support to get war powers act, then replacing him with democratic advisor and lowering the fascist support to do neutrality act, getting you tons of factories and war goals
The Czech obedience tree is the definition of answering the question “can you survive the Germans without dying” in the most boring and in your face way possible
Seems like you've been happier the last month or so (and by happier I mean only slightly suicidal instead of chewing-on-unbroken-cyanide-pills suicidal)
2:01 "So today we're going to kill that eagle" I dont know why but the casualness of it makes it far more hilarious then if he said it uber seriously XD
Please keep uploading regularly! Your videos give me something to watch while I eat at 12:30 in the morning after working a 12 hour shift at work! I would hate to have nothing to watch
If you do another one of these bad focus tree videos I’d love to see you play the USSR, forget to do the purge, get the civil war and intentionally lose to the monarchists
One of the most meta things to do as the USA is to do the Suspend the Persecution, Union Representation Act, and Accumulated Wealth Tax Act parts of the Communist tree all while being less than 10% Communist and it gets you out of the Great Depression in 1937.
I have played democratic, neutral Switzerland. Its very uneventful, but ultimately you do go to war against Germany due their 'Operation Tannenbaum' focus. It took until 1947 for them to take that focus, but by that time I had acquired nukes and was able to drop one on Berlin. Now thats what I called deterrence! I was able to reach 1948 due to my border provinces having complete 10 level forts and me nuking all the advancing German divisions. I was able to get the 'Time is on our side' achievement by playing as neutral Switzerland. It isn't quite as boring as you might think, I was able to lend lease guns to Republican Spain which meant they'd win. And of course the final battle with Germany was very fun seeing Berlin in flames. Highly recommend!
when he picked the swiss, i thought "oh what funny thing can the swiss do? i didnt even know they had a focus tree" never could i have imagined what he had planned
Manchukuo obedience path is just sad. Also any tips on playing Manchukuo? Whenever I play Japan just puppet or annex everything leaving me with 3/4 tiles only .
Man, today's my birthday and this is the best present i could've wished for! Been following your channel for some 3 years now, and i'm really glad you are re-motivated and uploading regularly ! Armored cars only when ?
So I actually did try the Communist Chinese one from the first time you did one of these, and it actually went pretty damned well. I was able to reunify the country by 1939 WITH help from Japan (basically, I rebuked Japan over the Marco Pollo Bridge and they declared war on my allies but for some reason I wasn’t called into the war, so one by one I kicked the others out of my faction and took them out) and then...well, let’s just say that when people say “Chinese Treaty Ports” in this timeline, they’re not talking about Hong Kong and Tsingtao, they’re talking about Sicily, Sardinia, and Wilhelmshaven.
iSorrowProductions seems like a broken man when he plays Hearts of Iron 4. ISP on the other hand. He’s as right as rain, and a beautiful happy boy.
Probably cus he spies on Hitler and play as putin on isp but isorrowprouductions is just forced hoi4 better content cus the worse the content the easier it is
No they are two different people
No dumb dumb they is clerly ve sam persone
@@CARILYNF don't give that degenerate attention
Hardcore GamingDK sorry my mistake, have a nice day✌️
"I'm enjoying Hoi4 recently"
You then proceed to play Neutral Switzerland
i did that once very early on to get the ''Reach 1948'' achivement. Basically started the game and then left the pc on.
My first game in HOI4 was fascist switzerland. I played till 1940 , got bored and played some other nation instead.
@@liker-qd4fz In My Game As Fascist Switzerland I Took Out GB in 1940 And Then The War Was Mostly Over
@@liker-qd4fz Me too lol
My first game was poland tried to defend against Germany didn’t go so well
“Another mega campaign around Christmas.” That could technically still be the annual mega campaign.
sup
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Sup
Sup
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"Why break free when you can simply break down and cry"
Basically 2020 so far
Plays I don't want to break free*
Isp and isorrow uploading on the same day? The war rages on.
yes
And the war crimes ramp up
hi stalin
Did you get the milk?
@@benjaminmeredith3210 Wait Is This...
Shogun Or Reich Production Or Hitler Rants Parodies?
After all this time we all still his gravy babies
Makes me feel special
We will always be.
In Hoi4 are you allowed to just declare war on anyone?
That's all I want to hear when I start up his videos.
even after everything that had happened...
we're still his gravy babies
>Germany conquers the world
Bill Wurtz: *They never got Switzerland*
Germany AI: Oh, sorry, forgot to finish my focuses. _does Operation Tannenbaum_
@@tremedar Switzerland: *You Weren't Supposed To Do That*
Not first. Also, logistical companies only at 600k
Can’t forget about rocket artillery only
I can already see his brain cells melting
Making alt accounts already.
The troops will have glorious supplies
Nah gotta go radios only challenge
"Who would want to do a neutral Switzerland campaign in Hearts of Iron 4 ?"
_Drew Durnil intensifies_
Who's that?
@@MrGaming-kr5zb A gay paintbrush.
4:34 A place divided by the Soviets and Americans? Hmm where have I seen this before
@Heberth Ryan r/whoosh
@Heberth Ryan Austria? I think you spelled 'Nam wrong.
@Heberth Ryan The Joke
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Your head
@Heberth Ryan Ayo, you forgot about Yemen (and 'Nam). Kudos for not forgetting about Austria though!
@@christancoding4424 "Ooga booga, gib me reddit karma
The Swiss focus tree is about as large as the Italian Focus Tree
Bruh
It’s actually larger
the italian one is worse than yhe generic one
BBA:
5:45 Mongolia: Maybe if I just sit here quietly, he won't notice
You are in every video, you're epic
Mongolia: this is fine
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 Wtf?
No He Is Nowhere To Be Found.
I think it's unfair to criticize the most boring focus trees, having in mind that they HAVE to exist, in order for the AI to function properly in historical games. Obviously the neutrality focus tree is boring as fuck, but what else do you expect from historical Switzerland
murdering all of europe
@@bigmichaeljack3851 based
@@yigitoz8387 it would seem that you have something in common with forbidden moustache man
@@kedarunzi9139 based moustache man
@@yigitoz8387
Ah yes, Stalin.
"The generic Hoi4 focus tree is my sleep paralysis demon."
Never change, ISP.
ISP ,is not issorrowproductions
The Generic Tree isnt really that bad, it does what it's meant to do, which is give Minor countries something to do, mostly middle eastern minors because a lot of minors have their own trees now.
@@secondpath5148 not that much something to do since it doesn't make any country join factions or declare war, more like something to build, which is always a good thing when you take over that country
When this was in my recommended 11 seconds after it was released:
You have served me well
"I've noticed Japan has been a smart bunny"
God I love ISP❤
"I don't know what crazy person in the world wants to do a neutral Switzerland game."
Cough cough.
Really liked American "Soviet Path" that you showcased. They also added more options and paths to the Focus Tree of the "Russia Reworked" Mod, called "A Terrible Fate".
Now you can choose to either go Democratic, Non-Aligned(Tsarist or Military Junta) or Fascist.
So please revisit it to show what magic can happen, should one choose to go down that path.
354 days in: Isorrow still hasn't published a Vic 2 tutorial, hope is running out.
only tutorial you need is, is to play
ISP is 142th largest country acording to me.
Secondth?
@@Snipurss twoth
Last time I was so early Roosevelt could still walk.
If you want endless suffering you could play the game on speed 1 for the entire game.
So the union represenstion act is a meta used by the sweatiest of vanilla USA players to get off of great deprsssion in March of 1937, along with a -10%(along with a -5% if you have 100% stability) consumer goods buff so your on total mob by around late 1938 after getting on partial mob (assuming you have 30% war support or more), along with making sure you will always have majority support in congress
so the first three focuses are normal. Continue the new deal, WPA, then Agriculture adjustment act. remember its 230 days until you can do the fair labor standards act
use the first 150 pp to get the silent workhorse. save the 150 pp for later
Make sure that you support is above 60 senators and 261 representatives by the 5th focus.
then do suspend the persecution, right after that use the 150 pp for the communist revolutionary
then do worker representation act, you will need 60 senators and 261 representatives for this.
You get the event which I forget its name, and you get two choices: One Which says "We must end this bloodshed, or something like that, and the other says we must not bow down to the mob Pick the *we must end this bloodshed* or the civil war will start being prepared
Then do the accumulated wealth tax act, which requires the same support, but that's fine, because the worker representation act gives you a majority on congress which you can regain for the 50pp design called "reshuffle congress"
The Accumulated wealth tax act will give you a -5% consumer goods spirit and reduce the Great Depression from "slow recovery" to "slow economic growth"
Then do the "Reach out to the Ware" Group, which you get 3 advisors, one for another -5% consumer goods for 0 pp.
Make sure you ban communism after that so you have the 95% democratic support so you can neutrality act
After that the path is yours!
Dude I am one of the silent majority, I've been subbed to you for quite a while and I don't think I've ever missed a single video of you.
Just wanted to let you know. Your vids are great, love them. Whenever you upload, it makes my day!
To be fair the obedience tree for Manchuko is for if you are in MP and you are co oping with a player Japan. In SP though its completely cursed
I love this series, don't stop you Mad man! How about bad focus tree country roulette?
please yes
Oh yes that would be GREAT!
Quality content
wouldn't that just be standard country roulette?
do you want him to shot himself?
Neutral focus tree : drew durnil ironman mode lol
I think in Millenium Dawn there is a Swiss Focus tree that let's you dissolve Switzerland and give your 3 provinces to Germany, France and Italy.
Hey man, fun video!
I'm sure you're probably just joking about all the "I'm gonna jump off a bridge" stuff, but I also know that some people joke about that stuff because they're genuinely not doing well
I just wanted to say that I hope it's just all jokes and that you're doing well! You're a hard working guy and a lot of people seem to be really into your stuff. You've made a lot of people happy
I hope you're having a good day, man!
Shut. Simp
Edward Marriott-Smith yeah because showing concern = simp lmao
@@gaminggamer2594 Damm right it does. Or maybe you are one of them! Simping Simper
@Edward Marriott-Smith, you must be 11 years old
@@bobsempletank1222 I agree with this and your bad at being a tank
Neutral Switzerland was my second game I’ve ever played. I was still figuring out the game. The first was fascist Brazil and it went horribly wrong.
Can’t lose if you never go to war.
@@minnesotanfreedomist3147 decent way to figure out the parts of the game that aren't directly focused on warfare
“It’s not an invasion, it’s surprise democracy”
I've been searching since Comrade Lenin's Death still haven't found a good communist focus tree.
I just wanted to let you know i watched this while i was on the toilet.
Good work
Nice to now
thank you
I think I had an aneurism seeing nearly all of Eurasia slapped with a big 'ol 'UNITED STATES' logo from one side of the landmass to the other.
You being happy makes me happy.
Please be happy, I can't stand this constant pain.
You hit 555,555 subscribers now we need a banana only mega campaign
the "Sorrow" in "ISorrowProductions" is showing
I can't help but muster out a grim chuckle whenever I see manchuria and railways in the same sentence
I dunno about anyone else, but I’m honestly glad he’s uploading more frequently
Guys, I know this is sad, But this is the last video with the Iron side intro
Let’s give our condolences.
F RIP o7
Am I the only one who feels like the USA focus tree was a little... lacking ? I mean don't get me wrong it definitely was an upgrade over the vanilla focus tree but I think it could have a little more, espescially in the alt-hist part.
Feels like the US doesn't really have too many alt-history paths that could be credible. Even with the ridiculousness of the German Kaiser tree, at least that's an ideology that Germany did actually have at one point. Communist America makes a little sense because it was something that was at least talked about as a possibility at one point, albeit as propaganda during the Red Scare. But there's no real chance of, say, a monarchist America, because its been a Republic since it formed
Isorrow is the definition of someone forced into creating things for the RUclips algorithm against his will. However it makes his content even better because his viewers feed off his misery
Make more of these "semi" compilation videos. Very fun to watch.
I bet good old Drew Durnil would like some Neutrality Swiss run...
The neutral part of the generic focus tree is actually not bad, if you're playing a country that's about to be attacked later in the war and you want to spam defences.
3:55, yea that's kinda the point, you can also do it with the facist path, you dont get the silver shirt part of the tree but you can get the manifest desity part, I think you can even avoid a civil war if you do it right.
Isn't it too OP to be able to annex the Soviet Union just like that? xD
nah
There is differences between crap and broken.
@@krasnamerah1926 I call this: 'broken crap'
Since we never got to see a Vic 2 Czechoslovakia full campaign, any chance we might get an old fashioned isp and chill? I remember you saying you were interested in doing something like that some day.
Isp do the Holy Russian Empire gameplay in the TNO mod their reunification song is spooky as hell.
at 600k do a megacampaign, but in eu4 you can only use artillery, same in hoi4, with a facecam
I swallow productions, when you do Uganda gameplay?????
What a cute foxy c:
Adude601 Jeah another furry owo
@@dershogun6396 You.
@@missk1697 Aww thanks. I was expecting to be bombarded with "furry degenerate" comments, but I got this instead. Thanks
@@Nikkidafox Just more people needing to be gassed.
Germany:yay for once im annexing ussr and not losing
Isp: *NAH* *NAH*
ISP is being held hostage by Alex the rambler being forced to play HOI4 till he is a corpse
Looking forward to seeing more on the Focuses, especially Italy considering how ignored that one is despite being a major player in the war. Keep up the good work man!
Confederated States Of America!!!???
you are the only youtuber that I go and watch their old videos, top 5 bro
These videos are pretty neat, I enjoy these as much as the Vic 2 ones. Also, I got even better at vic2 now :D just gotta work on trade and i think i can do more crazy stuff.
Lebanon artillery only world conquest at 600k ?
My name is Garfield and I love lasagna!
No, you are clearly Angelo
@@nihilism253 I am using John's account. I don't know why he named it Angelo but hey you know what they say: you can't have the pasta without the sauce.
isorrow: No matter how many I kill they just keep coming back
Me: Just like when I fight the Franco Prussian War in Victoria II as France
One day you just gotta say S t o p
You can also do the war powers act AND neutrality act by using the advisor to get enough fascist support to get war powers act, then replacing him with democratic advisor and lowering the fascist support to do neutrality act, getting you tons of factories and war goals
Everyone gonna ignore that my man just threatened to take his own life while its known that he is depressed
Hes vibing
I think the neutrality focus is for the ai
I lost all of my love for isorrow when I discovered he was a tier 3 pokimane sub, I wish I was joking 🙄
He seems like a guy that would do that, why are you surprised?
I believe there is a point to playing Switzerland, you can learn to 4 speed micro
But without war
I've watched your vids since early 2017 and im glad youre getting back on the horse ISP! Keep it up, i've really been enjoying your vids :^D
The Czech obedience tree is the definition of answering the question “can you survive the Germans without dying” in the most boring and in your face way possible
Seems like you've been happier the last month or so (and by happier I mean only slightly suicidal instead of chewing-on-unbroken-cyanide-pills suicidal)
I did a neutral Panama game, and yes, I do hate myself.
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Thanks RUclips !
Logistics companies only at 600k
gaming
this. so much this
ISP: plays alone madman
ISP: plays hoi 4 with others: swimmy die
Roblox rise of nations please daddy
I love hoi4 and eu4 youtubers because I can watch people play games that I have absolutely no understanding of.
36 seconds and I’m already 6th
2:01
"So today we're going to kill that eagle"
I dont know why but the casualness of it makes it far more hilarious then if he said it uber seriously XD
Ay ISP, I think it's really time to end this series already, we need something fresher like terrible Hoi 3 countries
The worst thing about the neutrality focus is that every AI that I try to switch ideology goes down that path
Sweden: I am become Drew Durnil, watcher of worlds
Please keep uploading regularly! Your videos give me something to watch while I eat at 12:30 in the morning after working a 12 hour shift at work! I would hate to have nothing to watch
This video makes me curious if a universe exists where Roosevelt led us in a civil war and Lincoln a world war.
He could move into Mod focus trees. I hear that one in EaW literally kills your country.
ISP, if you decide to jump off a bridge, make sure it's in river that's only three inches deep so you only break your legs
If you do another one of these bad focus tree videos I’d love to see you play the USSR, forget to do the purge, get the civil war and intentionally lose to the monarchists
I think stuff like the "Obedience" path for Manchuria are just there so that the AI can actually do focuses when Historical AI is on
Thanks for helping me keep sane and satiating my cravings for maps. Thanks Joe.
One of the most meta things to do as the USA is to do the Suspend the Persecution, Union Representation Act, and Accumulated Wealth Tax Act parts of the Communist tree all while being less than 10% Communist and it gets you out of the Great Depression in 1937.
Mega campaigns are some of my favorite, looking forward to it if it happens
I have played democratic, neutral Switzerland. Its very uneventful, but ultimately you do go to war against Germany due their 'Operation Tannenbaum' focus. It took until 1947 for them to take that focus, but by that time I had acquired nukes and was able to drop one on Berlin. Now thats what I called deterrence! I was able to reach 1948 due to my border provinces having complete 10 level forts and me nuking all the advancing German divisions. I was able to get the 'Time is on our side' achievement by playing as neutral Switzerland. It isn't quite as boring as you might think, I was able to lend lease guns to Republican Spain which meant they'd win. And of course the final battle with Germany was very fun seeing Berlin in flames. Highly recommend!
artillery only challenge
when he picked the swiss, i thought "oh what funny thing can the swiss do? i didnt even know they had a focus tree"
never could i have imagined what he had planned
Manchukuo obedience path is just sad. Also any tips on playing Manchukuo? Whenever I play Japan just puppet or annex everything leaving me with 3/4 tiles only .
Man, today's my birthday and this is the best present i could've wished for! Been following your channel for some 3 years now, and i'm really glad you are re-motivated and uploading regularly ! Armored cars only when ?
So I actually did try the Communist Chinese one from the first time you did one of these, and it actually went pretty damned well. I was able to reunify the country by 1939 WITH help from Japan (basically, I rebuked Japan over the Marco Pollo Bridge and they declared war on my allies but for some reason I wasn’t called into the war, so one by one I kicked the others out of my faction and took them out) and then...well, let’s just say that when people say “Chinese Treaty Ports” in this timeline, they’re not talking about Hong Kong and Tsingtao, they’re talking about Sicily, Sardinia, and Wilhelmshaven.
A multiplayer game where everyone has to take the worst focus path
This paradox mega campaign better be real isorrow. Death is looking real sweet Rn, I’m gonna need this to keep going
ISP Location: New Zealand. iSorrowproductions: United kingdom
Me: HUH?
I think that the neutral focus tree and manchukuo obedience path were made more so that the AI follows historical events.