Fallout Lore: How Caesar's Legion Conquered The East
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
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Fallout Lore: Caesar's Legion. This is the story of Edward Sallow and how he grew from a young Follower of the Apocalypse to the greatest threat the NCR has known. 
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Who is your favorite character in/from the Legion?
Vulpes Inculta or Joshua Graham. Great video. 👍
@@crusader2112 Appreciate it, and I agree. I wish we got more of Vulpes. He is almost a combination of Ulysses and Caesar.
His calmness is eerie
@@nvRanger I believe Vulpes would make a good leader of the Legion, but he sadly lacks the strength to take it. If he a strongman backing him then perhaps maybe.
@@crusader2112 He might lack the physical strength, but I don't think he lacks the cunning.
The legions spy network is one of if not THE strongest asset they obtain. He is the helm of that. He could use that to take power when Caesar passes.
@@nvRanger Very true, I just meant he will need allies as well.
"Up yours, NCR moralists! We'll see who crucified who."
Ave
Caesar also reminds me of how Shaka Zulu came into power. War in that area was more ceremonial, a way to solve disputes. It included displays of power which included ceremonial outfits, dancing, displays of wealth. Very rarely people died. Like Caesar said, they "played" war. Shaka showed them total war. He showed up to these events and actually killed his enemy. And he went on to conquer his local area. He eventually became paranoid and his elites turned against him.
Fascinating, sounds like he may have inspired that aspect of the character. Josh Sawyer in particular has a love for history and incorporating it into his games.
Kermit yapping in the beginning was dope
lmao, most motivational muppet
Its jordan peterson 😂😂
@@curtisheron8858 that's the joke lol
Gotta say, as a fatherless man, Kermit helped me get my shit together. I learned that fatherless children grow up strong, independently. That's why I am now a donor for women to have fatherless children.
Dumping loads in miss piggy’s across the globe
It’s such a beautiful parallel how the legion and ncr both become wasteland superpowers. The NCR had been several towns inspired to unite thanks to the help provided by the vault dweller, as well as due to the fact all powerful threats had been removed (Unity and Enclave scattered). The legion was able to form simply because ONE tribe was able to master war strategies from an intellectual. Rather than occasionally skirmish, the Blackfoots under Edward Sallow engaged in total war to destroy or assimilate. And with just a few tribes absorbed into his new legion, Caesar’s legion was larger and more tactically brilliant than any of the simplistic 80+ tribes around them that they grew to absorb. Thus, the only power to rival was the opposite nation.
Awesome take. I often think of Caesar’s story almost like someone going back in time with modern knowledge and perspective on history. He was able to push that one tribe forward just a bit, and it made a world of difference.
The pair fit each other so well it’s hard to imagine a canon ending between them.
And that will be the Legion's downfall. How are they to respond to the same tactics they used with the 80+ smaller and weaker tribes they crushed, from a "tribe" that is larger, more populated, more advanced, with greater political unity and cohesion?
The legion is the most interesting “antagonist” faction in all of fallout, great vid
I completely agree. They have some of the best characters in the series.
Ave, True to Kaisar
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Wow, incredible work. I loved the psycological analysis and philosophy you wove into it. This is awesome.
Glad you enjoyed, thank you for the kind words 🙏
Hearing lobsterman talk over dying light 2 music was super unexpected
Surprise !
yeah hes an idiot
This is by FAR the most engaging and interesting fallout channel on RUclips.
That’s such an awesome thing to say dude, thank you
Fallout New Vegas really was Fatherless behaviour VS Bureaucrat behaviour
Lmao
Daddy issues takes one farther and quicker than hr.
I love how you preface the absolutely unhinged ideology of the Legion, with the absolutely unhinged ideology of another maddened cult leader.
The quality of your content is insane
Kind of you to say 🙏
I'm currently preparing a Fallout campaign set in the Midwest/Arizona before New Vegas, and a big part of it will be Caesar's rise to power. Just wanted to thank you a lot, as there are not a lot of sources to draw inspirations from. Ofc I'll write a lot on my own, but the topic is so fascinating, I'm just wondering why almost nobody really gets deep into it.
That’s awesome man, and thank you for the kind words 🙏
If you got a link, I'd love to check that out
This was fascinating and incredible
Appreciate you saying that. Motivating.
I wonder if the Legion never went further East due to the Midwest being so dangerous? Or just from a lack of tribes in Capital Wasteland or Commonwealth?
In lore a lot of the midwest is inhabitable with severe weather. Plus if Tactics is Canon there are already powerful players in the area. Ceasar wanted to return home and conquer it/ save it.
As Connor stated, I think his main cause is to conquer the NCR. They’re likely the biggest threat in the wasteland at the time.
He also has the narrative in his head that he is Caesar, the NCR is the Roman Republic, and the Colorado is his Rubicon (river).
@MalpaisRanger why I support ceaser is I wanna see the Brahmin barons lose their cattle to the bulls.
The Blackfoot tribe isn't a nod to the Native American tribe. According to Van Buren the Blackfoots were actually the descendants of a branch of US Special Ops members. So they have the same name but not the same people.
The Van buren blackfoots are not the blackfoots of Fallout new vegas.
The van buren ones mixed with native americans. They were parasitic and knew guns and violence.
The New Vegas blackfoots didnt know guns well as Caesar taught them how to strip and clean guns. How to breath when pulling a trigger etc. And they looked at him as he was sorcerer because of it.
It is possible the new vegas blackfoots were part or fully native american. It is also possible they had none. Where the name is from we simply dont know. Maybe it is from native americans. Maybe they just had dirty feet (or a culture of painting feet or whatever).
Right, to follow on what Fredrik said, Van Buren is not canon.
New Vegas draws upon ideas from it but often massively alters them. In this case, I think they are no more connected than in name.
Given their identity is altered so heavily, it’s hard to say the lore of their name comes from a nonexistent canceled version of themselves.
Blackops d*ck couldn't resist native-ussy
The new Vegas Blackfoot still aren’t the Native American tribe. The Blackfeet live in Montana and Alberta.
@@baneofbanes No ones saying they are literally the same tribe, the question is where did the name come from.
Fantastic video. Thank you for making it.
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
They could've made the show about the rise of Caesar and it would've been the most interesting political drama show in TV history.
duuuuude, imagine the intertwining narrative that could have been weaved by us following a young Mormon New Canaanite Joshua Graham, a young Edward Sallow, and a young Aaron Kimball as a soldier in the NCR up until their culminating moments...
@@nvRanger I can hear the foot steps into the Grand Canyon as they discuss the failure of the NCR and the ravages of intertribal warfare. Sallow ruminating and friendly with Graham as they descend into the greatest political turning point of the Southwest.
Would be awesome and tragic to watch their friendship fall apart as Caesar becomes mad with power and Graham struggles with his own demons.
Amazing vids man, please make more!!!
I’ll keep at it man, thanks for the vote of confidence
Great stuff man keep it up loved the opening message
Glad you liked it, thanks 🙏
Lmao really? It was a word salad and he started crying
@@joshosborne683 what?
@MalpaisRanger he's trying to tell us to clean our room, then he remembered trans ppl exist, so he started to choke up
This was a great video man. Immediate subscription from me
Appreciate the kind words, thanks 🙏
I went from a JBP clip to this video, and I cannot tell you how utterly confused I was for a good 3-4 seconds 😂
Excellent video, btw 🫡
lol I understand the confusion. When worlds collide. Thanks
The disdainful opinion about the FoA and calling them naive idealists more likely comes from the older, much cynical Caesar, who with them shames himself maybe for being just as idealist and naive as them, when he set out to the Grand Canyon all those decades ago.
Personal opinion, this is.
Fair consideration. I figured that his issues with his peers might have meant is began at a younger age.
To pair with that, maybe the Followers sent him so far away into the east because there was friction and issues with him.
@@nvRanger in that case, it bite them back in the ass pretty badly
it definitely did, something poetic about that.
I didn’t click on a fallout lore video to get slapped with the biggest reality check of my life
lmao, i'm sorry man
I really wish they reached further enough to be in Fallout 4 back when that game was coming out but nah. We get generic merc faction, The Gunners, instead.
That would be wild as hell tbh. Basically taken over the whole country at that point. Not saying I don’t want more Legion tho, cause I do.
@@nvRanger Lemme clarify, not in the Commonwealth but around Nuka World. I should’ve clarified that part.
@@barricadedpurifier is Nuka World in PA, like where Hershey park would be?
@@nvRanger I always thought the Six Flags in New England. It’s around a few miles near Boston.
Oh, you’re probably right. I had no idea, always thought it was Hershey park.
I thought I was listening to a Cristian Cage promo for the first minute and a half
Idk who dat is
@@nvRanger you good man, he’s a wrestler who often talks about other wrestlers fathers as a way to stir the pot
Have you played the DLC-sized mod in Hearts of Iron 4 called "Old World Blues?"
The lore and stories they've written in that game is pretty interesting. You can even play as Legate Lanius and betray Caesar by simping to an AI larping as a Roman Goddess. The stuff they've written there is insane, might be a great source of inspiration for future videos or something.
I have heard of it from others in the comments, but I had no idea there were custom narratives to go along with it.
I have never played HOI4 so that is a bit of a barrier to entry, but it definitely sounds like something up my alley. Thanks for the info.
@@nvRanger Yeah there's different paths for most of the nations in the game I highly suggest playing it. It's strange to say that there are a lot of Roleplay options in a Grand Strategy game but somehow they made it work.
Here are some notable nations:
- A Brotherhood of Steel Chapter in Texas that you can try to make the Texan Commonwealth with.
- A bunch of Mexican Luchadors fighting Ceasar's Legion.
- Arroyo under the Chosen One.
- Great Khan members that fled to Wyoming to begin anew.
- The Mirelurk Tribe...Yes, it's just mirelurks. Well there's people that worship the Mirelurk queen as well.
- The Troll Warren, a bunch of Super Mutants that want to avenge the Master. They use a dumping ground of FEV to create more Super Mutants.
And there is A LOT more.
That honestly sounds amazing. I love how it’s sort of expanded lore as well given one of the great khans endings has the going into Wyoming.
Best Fallout faction.
I’m kinda with ya
Why do you say so? In my view they are just raiders. No different from the Huns or Pechenegs
Their characters first and foremost. Caesar, Joshua Graham, Lanius, Vulpes, and Ulysses to name a few.
I think there is a lot of great potential in story telling through them in future games as well.
I don’t think most who like them argue for them on moral grounds, just that they are interesting and enjoyable from a player perspective.
@@LucasDimoveo they bring stability and saftey to the wasteland at the cost of individual freedom.
Just like the original roman empire.
@@LucasDimoveo
Caesar's Legion has a strong ethos. The rest are busy worshiping ashes. While NCR has the numbers to contend with CL, they're dead end. Their society corrupt morally and otherwise.
"The New California Republic is a federal republic based on the principle of representative democracy, established as the successor of the pre-War United States."
"Her (Tandi's) presidency also saw the passage of laws prohibiting persecution and discrimination on the basis of gender, ethnicity, sexuality or religious belief (so long as said religion did not advocate violence). In 2205, protection was extended to ghouls and other mutants."
"The NCR was generally successful in creating a more egalitarian society, although the results varied. Economic regulations enacted by Tandi were slowly eroded after her death, and finally overturned during the presidency of Aaron Kimball. As a result, wealthy farmers and ranchers (commonly known as brahmin barons) were able to exert a disproportionate amount of influence, despite having just one vote on paper."
"The reactionary undercurrent amplified under his (Kimball's) presidency, especially among males, led to a disproportionately high number of promotions for male military officers, while discourse arguing the differences between males and females has reappeared."
"Homosexuality was generally accepted in the core states of the NCR, though frontier territories away from the more affluent center tended to show prejudice."
"Raider" CL is already a better choice than the rest, but Caesar seeks the synthesis, which will turn the CL into a proper civilization.
I'm gonna need name of the music, please.
i believe its just the dying light 2 menu theme
@@nvRanger gratias tibi, amicus.
I world like fallout even if cesar fail at the second hover war he cannot be take as a failure but his succeeds he will be the greatest on his world UNTIL THE BOS OF THE EAST NUKE THEM WITH LIBERT PRIME but yeah hate as much as you want q godless world is a world where might is right and until the full eradication of the legion isn't happening he won the game
But WILL HAPPEN ON 2296 WHEN THE BOS ON THE PRYDWEN LEAVE NOTHING BUT ASH ON HIS PATH TO THE TOTAL DESTRUCTION OF THE NCR
Sigh* (Loads anti-material rifle)
Get ‘em
What would a fallout romania 🇷🇴 be like?. A top Guy like warrior horde?
Idk much about Romania tbh
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Jordan Balthazar Peterson introducing a video on creepy socially conservative slavers is deeply funny.
I really don't think Caesars father was that influential in his life. It was more his fascination with Rome.
I thinks it’s a part of his story that isn’t brought up as much. His early life in the boneyard w the followers as well.
He only discovered the books on Rome during the very trip that started the Legion. There had to be a build up before then.
There is no "good guys" in fallout man i really hate that phrase
If I said that it was ironic or in quotations but yea I agree
@@nvRanger no I mean isn't against you or anything is just the phrase even before F3 it was pretty over-dramatic
I always liked it was a faction copying the 2 most well known super powers in history. Modern day U.s. and Rome.
Hey could you please credit the fanart you use in this video? I know the people that made the artworks in this video.
Have those people drop by and give some links. I’d be happy to pin a comment to the top and direct people towards their work.
So, long story short... Caesar has mommy issues?
This video perfectly encapsulates the mindset of average western leftist urbanite not being able to understand what the world would be like without the amenities and security provided by modern industrial institutions. People call the Legion and its leadership “comically Evil” because “muh slavery”, even though slavery was the most common thing civilisations did and saw nothing wrong with it up until 250 years ago where international commerce became a thing thanks to technological advancements and the “pax Britannica” allowing safe oversees commerce and slaves became obsolete due to their relative lower economical output. In the world of fallout, where the whole human civilisation reverted back to it’s inception and has to start over from tribalism, it makes sense that a more organised structure would eventually appear, like the Legion. And no, it wouldn’t be like NCR, and in the fact the game lore itself acknowledges that since the NCR is already losing power due to corruption and internal struggles so much so they can’t even keep the roads safe, which are bread and butter of any successful civilisation. And the Legions treatment of the tribes is not “inhumane” or anything the tribals would be surprised by since the savages are the most violent people and in fact commit genocide against other tribes all the time. Whoever the leftist are brainwashed by the idea of “noble savages” which is the root of modern leftist anti western ideology. Hence the Caesar’s Legion is the only civilisation that can survive the wasteland and eventually unify it under one flag and maybe be able to restore technology so there would be no more need of slave labour. Obviously the writers of the games would never allow that to happen even though we saw shady sands being nuked in the series but at the end of the show they recovered a seemingly infinite source of energy which is basically gonna be their plot armour against the Legion. They are leftists themselves so they would never show other own ideology weak and easily conquerable by something that they villainize as “le heckin fascists”
Gotta love the wisdom of Jordan Peterson!
I know he’s a divisive character to some, but he has a lot to offer. Felt his comments on growing up fatherless fit Caesar’s childhood.
@@nvRanger definitely fits. Edward learned knowledge, but not the wisdom to use it.
Spot on
@@nvRanger I don't think a physically weak man (like JP) that cannot govern his own emotions and cries like a woman at the drop of a hat (like JP) should be the one commenting on things like masculinity.
@@SuperSpasticNinja yea sUpErSpAsTiCnIJa should probably let us know bout being a man
Why couldn't we get a show written like this instead of that dogshit amazon show?
I hope they do the Legion justice. Maybe
Season 1 = Fallout 3
Season 2 = New Vegas
The show was pretty good, minus some stuff with the NCR
If they come back in Season 2 and really use some of the content from the west coast, people’s tune will change. If they just decide the NCR, Legion, and House are all irrelevant and mostly dead, people will riot.
Because Todd and the Bethesda crew weren't involved
@@morewi I think Emil is the guy who has a say over the writing in BGS games to be fair
You had me with the title and lost me with Jordan Peterson video. Dude is a grade A nut job.
Do you think it’s a good thing to hear someone’s voice and shutdown?
That’s Kermit anyway, not Jordan.
Lol not Jordan Peterson 😂😂😂.
1. Wtf does he have to do with fallout
2. Has he like.. done any studies on any of the things he talks about ever? He just talks out his ass all the fkn time. I don’t think he’s ever written a single peer reviewed paper.
Edit: also, I’m not a psychologist, but even if Peterson was much more scholarly rigorous, I’d still think that Carl Jung and sigmund Freud are outdated hacks. Talk to any therapist today and they’ll tell you that weird subconscious Freudian shit is a bunch of bs.
Double edit: big thanks to the creator of the vid for the FIVE replies, none of which actually had anything to do with this comment :).
You should keep talking to those therapists
@@nvRanger lol says the dude implying that Caesar founded a genocidal empire because he didn’t have a dad 😂. Also, LOL. You really just went straight there because I made fun of your favorite druggy. That’s such a yikes thing to say from a creator when all I did was say that some dude you referenced has no real credentials 😂
The more laughing emojis you use the funnier your comments get
@@nvRanger it’s giving redditor
Edit: 😂😂😂😂
Most people in your position would maybe defend their use of a completely random clip from a controversial figure in their video, or maybe explain in more detail how it relates to their point. But you give weird snarky replies, and I respect that.
@@fedoramaster6035 i dont touch reddit, and I would be a fool to argue w you
thx for the engagement
JB peterson sucks
nice