Privileged to visit LHC in September, and left with renewed confidence humans can survive our myopic mania. Yes, there’s irony in looking at the little things to see the big things.
@@dangerfly i honestly don't mind, but given how much anti-science movement is still on the run, even little things like that might be somewhat necessary.
why don't we build a big collider in space, between lagrange points, sort of like ligo? vacuum not good enough, and too hard to steer particles? what about putting some of the big detectors in space, or on the moon, to detect super energetic cosmic rays?
The only thing you solve is the civil engineering - you don't have to dig a tunnel like that. But you have to send everything into space, which is extremely expensive in both money and fuel, cancelling out the savings from the civil engineering. Then for this kind of experiment you want to avoid cosmic rays as much as possible, that's why experiments are often under mountains. There was a serious proposal for something along these lines once, but it isn't a mainstream idea because the cost/benefit ratio is extremely high - both due to high cost and due to low benefit
@@bethlong7115 What was the proposal? There seem to be various things for cubesats now, and the ISS has had a detector for like 10 years (from the J/Psi guy). In principle if you want to actually produce the particles yourself rather than detect stuff from quasars, the earth is only so large.
@@ian7208 Producing the particles yourself gives you the option to control them how you want them. You don't necessarily need the highest energies in the universe do to new science, that's only one interesting branch of physics
@@bethlong7115 i agree, but it's curious to think of how we're going to be able to keep going up in energy (and down in distance). there's a big gap between the lhc and planck scale.
To really get all the answers you would have to create temperatures and pressures equivalent to the Big Bang. I hope I'm not around when they try that one!
It's involuntary, that's the music that starts playing automatically whenever a scientist opens their mouth. We don't know why, although some think it's related to dark matter .
Great achievement has no road map. The X-ray and penicillin were not discovered with practical objectives in mind. And, when the electron was discovered over 100 years ago, it was useless. Now, we have a whole world run by, and entirely dependent on, electronics. You don't know what some experiments will lead to. So, don't be so quick to judge, pal.
@thereadersvoice A hundred years ago - yeah. Now, without solid financing, it is almost impossible to do frontier research. Yeah, it is possible that a future collider will bring great benefits. But highly unlikely. At least much more unlikely than the possible benefits of thousands or even tens of thousands of research projects that can be financed with the same money.
@Enigma1336 Yeah, of course. If I start digging for gold at a random place, I don't know if I would find gold before trying. It is just highly unlikely. We don't know anything with 100 percent certainty before doing it. This doesn't mean all probabilities are the same.
No shit right. I remember when the current machine was down for like a year and the agreed opinion amongst physicist was because possibly a bird came back from the future to drop a twig in the machine as a warning to mankind. I tried this excuse several times at my own job but it never worked.😢
lol, particle collision is actually the most important part of physics, it hides the secrets of how our computer (aka Universe) works on the inside. Understanding it is of huge value for humanity.
@@dziban303 We get lots of data from LHC , this data is used to test current (computational) quantum mechanical modeling methods which are used by commercials to create new products. The models are needed to (for example) create new materials, new designs of transistors for our computer chips, new drugs, and so on. So as a tax payer you benefit from all technological advances that a better knowledge quantum physics provides. If for example , someone goes to a hospital for cancer treatment, most likely the drugs offered that person were created on a computer software which is using the quantum mechanical model derived from the data that LHC have provided some time in the past. So, basically the survival of human kind and the quality of living of human kind depends on the knowledge of our Universe and this is what LHC is meant for. In the future, you will have to say thanks CERN research for its help in creating quantum computers, which are needed to accelerate the development of AI, and we need the development of AI to accelerate if we want the robots to take our jobs, so we can stop working and just live for pleasure.
Just one more collider bro pls 😭
Privileged to visit LHC in September, and left with renewed confidence humans can survive our myopic mania. Yes, there’s irony in looking at the little things to see the big things.
I'm a simple person. I see Lizzie Gibney explaining a new type of particle collider, and I click.
Thumbs up if you thought the title said, "Why build a moon collider"
Smashing!
What I got from this... Wish for Muons is one hand and Shyte in the other, then see which gets funding faster.
Energy efficient muon production would be a good first step, maybe then we could have room temperature fusion reactors.
At 3:08. Note the lifetime of a muon at rest is 2.2 microseconds, not milliseconds.
I think your comments were interesting and important to hear…but can you slow down a bit so I can grasp them.
It was interesting what she is saying
There's a special place in heck reserved for camera-persons who needlessly use side-camera.
I prefer my scientists to force direct eye contact as a show of dominance.
@@dangerfly i honestly don't mind, but given how much anti-science movement is still on the run, even little things like that might be somewhat necessary.
it might not be to your taste, but not needless. multiple camera angles allows (one way) to cut between takes without using "jump cuts"
@@dangerfly It's not a ted-talk. It'd be odd if my friend were talking to me, and all of a sudden stared off to one side..
@@AdityaMehendale What if your friend turns away and talks over her shoulder as she walks towards the fridge to make a sandwich? So natural!
First help build an effective fusion reactor stellarator or tokamak then you can have all the toys you can think of.
With luck. Hoping for more videos.
I think I can make one with two straws and a magnet
why don't we build a big collider in space, between lagrange points, sort of like ligo? vacuum not good enough, and too hard to steer particles? what about putting some of the big detectors in space, or on the moon, to detect super energetic cosmic rays?
Money
The only thing you solve is the civil engineering - you don't have to dig a tunnel like that. But you have to send everything into space, which is extremely expensive in both money and fuel, cancelling out the savings from the civil engineering. Then for this kind of experiment you want to avoid cosmic rays as much as possible, that's why experiments are often under mountains.
There was a serious proposal for something along these lines once, but it isn't a mainstream idea because the cost/benefit ratio is extremely high - both due to high cost and due to low benefit
@@bethlong7115 What was the proposal? There seem to be various things for cubesats now, and the ISS has had a detector for like 10 years (from the J/Psi guy). In principle if you want to actually produce the particles yourself rather than detect stuff from quasars, the earth is only so large.
@@ian7208 Producing the particles yourself gives you the option to control them how you want them. You don't necessarily need the highest energies in the universe do to new science, that's only one interesting branch of physics
@@bethlong7115 i agree, but it's curious to think of how we're going to be able to keep going up in energy (and down in distance). there's a big gap between the lhc and planck scale.
Meowons 😸
Don't get catty!
What is the point of price comparison for something which doesn't exist? Unless you include a price estimate for bridging the technological gap.
Cute expriment, Thanks aunti 😊
To really get all the answers you would have to create temperatures and pressures equivalent to the Big Bang. I hope I'm not around when they try that one!
18 billion? LHC cost like 5 bill. Does not sound like a bargain to me
the cheapest way to understand the universe at high energy. world gdp is like 100 trillion per year, this is .00018 percent.
Thanks for the background music, because what she was saying wasn’t quite interesting enough🙄
It's involuntary, that's the music that starts playing automatically whenever a scientist opens their mouth. We don't know why, although some think it's related to dark matter .
What with the duck quarking as well... in the quark, quark 🦆collision
I was intrigued. Just because you aren't interested doesn't mean others aren't.
@@JimmyCerrait’s called sarcasm, Jimmy, but don’t worry about it 🤦♂️
There’s always something to cry about
Enormous amount of money which could be spent much better in other research.
Great achievement has no road map. The X-ray and penicillin were not discovered with practical objectives in mind. And, when the electron was discovered over 100 years ago, it was useless. Now, we have a whole world run by, and entirely dependent on, electronics.
You don't know what some experiments will lead to. So, don't be so quick to judge, pal.
@thereadersvoice A hundred years ago - yeah. Now, without solid financing, it is almost impossible to do frontier research. Yeah, it is possible that a future collider will bring great benefits. But highly unlikely. At least much more unlikely than the possible benefits of thousands or even tens of thousands of research projects that can be financed with the same money.
We don't know that before we have tried.
@Enigma1336 Yeah, of course. If I start digging for gold at a random place, I don't know if I would find gold before trying. It is just highly unlikely. We don't know anything with 100 percent certainty before doing it. This doesn't mean all probabilities are the same.
@@lavrentii please show me the probability calculations you did to reach your very adamant conclusion. Or is it just an opinion spoken as fact? mmm
Can't feed the homeless but let's build a muon collider 😂😂😂
it's European. the US canceled supercolliders in 1993 and still has homeless people.
Let's focus these millions on something to help humanity further itself in ways that actually make a difference to NOW.
Do more with what you already have, and then, just maybe, we'll buy you some new toys.
No shit right. I remember when the current machine was down for like a year and the agreed opinion amongst physicist was because possibly a bird came back from the future to drop a twig in the machine as a warning to mankind. I tried this excuse several times at my own job but it never worked.😢
Stop wasting other scientists money
They aren't
lol, particle collision is actually the most important part of physics, it hides the secrets of how our computer (aka Universe) works on the inside. Understanding it is of huge value for humanity.
@@absolute___zerowhat tactile benefits has LHC provided to the average taxpayer?
@@dziban303 We get lots of data from LHC , this data is used to test current (computational) quantum mechanical modeling methods which are used by commercials to create new products. The models are needed to (for example) create new materials, new designs of transistors for our computer chips, new drugs, and so on. So as a tax payer you benefit from all technological advances that a better knowledge quantum physics provides. If for example , someone goes to a hospital for cancer treatment, most likely the drugs offered that person were created on a computer software which is using the quantum mechanical model derived from the data that LHC have provided some time in the past. So, basically the survival of human kind and the quality of living of human kind depends on the knowledge of our Universe and this is what LHC is meant for. In the future, you will have to say thanks CERN research for its help in creating quantum computers, which are needed to accelerate the development of AI, and we need the development of AI to accelerate if we want the robots to take our jobs, so we can stop working and just live for pleasure.
Stop drinking Hossenfelder's kool-aid.