Your mention of the rarity of the 70 -210 mm range in modern telephoto zoom lenses sent me back nearly 30 years to reconsider the memory of my first Canon EF lens: a Canon EF 70-210mm f/4 AFD telephoto zoom lens. That 70 -210 mm lens (which lived happily on an EOS One for more than two decades) seemed, if memory serves, to reflect the prevailing opinion of the era's optical gurus: use of magnification/zoom ranges greater than one to three was thought to entail unacceptable loss of image quality. The popularity of very good budget zoom lenses (Canon's EF-S 55-250mm lens) and ne plus ultra Canon L zooms (EF 100-400mm, EF 70-300mm) which exceed that one to three zoom range seems to demonstrate that this particular optical shibboleth was overstated or is outdated. Your very positive review of this Tamron 70-210 mm f/4 lens suggests that limiting zoom range and keeping maximum aperture down may still be key to lens makers' being able to provide better image quality at a relatively modest cost.
The focal length is the one that Tamron has traditionally made (going back to the adaptall days). This (and the new 28-75 for Sony), may actually leverage some of their optical experience with these focal lengths/maximum apertures.
I appreciate the comprehensive overviews you do discussing various usability criteria of the items your review. You're a gifted teacher and communicator, Dustin, and I always enjoy your work. If I do videos in the future, please know that I am definitely inspired by your approach. The Canon 70-200 F/4L IS USM is my favorite landscape lens; my only issue with it is the construction of the focus mechanism (it's this weird clutch held together by a few friction fit struts), but it's built wonderfully and produces amazing images otherwise. The magnification on the Tamron is pretty cool, and I am vexed sometimes by the Canon's focus on my A7RIII, but it's good to know to know that I'm not going to be missing out a lot that I care about by keeping my Canon. Maybe I'm just shallow, but the Tamron engineered plastic shows wear so easily, yet my 70-200 still looks brand new, and I can't get over the off-beige signature color, and those are definitely factors in my general uninterest in the Tamron. I really do respect the new Tamron lenses, although having tried a number of them they're not exactly my cup of tea. Maybe it's the focus ring placement,
I always thought 3rd party lenses wouldn't exceed native lenses except price-performance ratio. But Sigma Art or recent Tamron lenses changed my mind. It's so amazing that Tamron 70-210 F4 is quite capable for some near macro pictures. As always, thanks for your comprehensive review that I can understand easlily.
Excellent review as always Justin, and have been keen to see your thoughts on this new lens. Your reviews are my go to standard and I would buy a lens on your reviews alone. I love the detail you go into and I feel confident you cannot go wrong with a recommendation you give. Keep up the excellent work. Thank You Dustin Abbott.
I have the G2 on my Nikon D850 and it's the best/ sharpest lens I have owned in 45 years of photography. Tamron has raised the game and in many aspects beat the game. Thanks, Dustin :) Gaelic Memories Photography
Excellent indepth review, I have just ordered along with my Canon Eos R7 instead of kit lens. This review is surely helpful to gain confidence and knowledge. Thanks a ton..have wonderful time.
didn't even know about this lens yet! I bought the 100-400mm right after your review about it and its a great lens! my uncle owns the canon one and its A LOT heavier. a thing i was surprised by though is that the zoom ring is inverted compared to the other canon and sigma lenses i own. not sure why that is, but therefore i mostly use it as a push-pull zoom which it seems to be doing fine as well (and also works pretty great with the sun hood on)
Good morning Dustin, thanks for all your complete reviews, they helped me a lot to finally get a Canon M5 and the 22mm which I am very satisfied with. Now for my FF system I am oriented in buying this new lens or the Canon 70-200 f4 is. Yesterday I got the chance to try 2 used copies of the "white thing" and I love it, but... I experienced a not really nice problem on the manual focus ring: basically, if you put the lens vertically, the focus ring starts slipping, it turns but nothing happens in the distance window. It happened in the both copies that I tried and I got to know it is a known problem. Have you ever heard about or experienced it? I am more convinced to get the new "black thing" by Tamron. Thanks again, luigi.
Excellent video Dustin....!!! I am planning to buy a telephoto lens...but I hve got confused b/w Tamron 70-210, 70-300 and 100-400 All are priced very next to each other.... Please suggest your thoughts regarding this purchase
What kind of telephoto work do you want to do? The 70-210 gives you a constant maximum aperture. The 100-400 gives you the most reach. The 70-300 is the most compact.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I need a telephoto to document my travels(takes images/videos of landscape, people, food) ... I am not into bird/wildlife photography but maybe in future I may.... I currently own a nikon D7500 and a sigma 17-70mm lens with some godox flash... Let me also share my current thought process / doubts.... 70-300 compared to 70-210 has higher reach but lacks...weather sealing...but has variable aperture across zoom range...but is very inexpensive,... If I go for this I can invest in a gimbal with the remaining amount... But if I consider long term use...that I may go for some adventure, treks...weather sealing is a good to have feature and it is good to buy a fast lens...70-210 makes sense .... and in future if I want to go for wildlife, I will invest separately in a more dedicated lens like 150-600.... Also, 70-300/70-210 are much lighter than 100-600 ...which is good for travels / my hiking expedition.,.. Or.... Invest in a 100-600 and put things to rest....the need for higher focal length is met one shot.... currently there isn't much price difference between 70-210 and 100-600... Hope I was able to make my confusions clear to u... Kindly, help me as there is an ongoing sale here in india...
It sounds like the plan to buy the 70-210 makes the most sense for now, and then you can add a longer lens later. Or choose the 100-400. It’s reasonably light and has weather sealing and will give you a lot of reach on your D7500
Thanks for the first look! I've been looking forward to learning more about this lens. Also, when you do the image quality tests, could you please compare it to the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 as well? For landscape photographers, if the IQ is quite similar, it would make sense going for this, considering the cost and weight savings. Cheers.
Thanks for the excellent detailed introduction and I look forward to the full test. Please be sure to test for focus breathing, that is, do we get that full 210mm of reach at closer distances. I worry more about focus breathing in a 24-70mm than in a longer zoom but it's still historically a characteristic of Tamron zooms and of interest. Thank you.
I was desperate about this video of yours. I was unable to decide between canon's L offering and tamron's newly released one. Thanks Dustin. I will be waiting for the final review as well. 😊
Wow, I wanted this to replace sony 70-200 f4. Mostly for weight. But it has a lot of other useful aspects to it. Like semi macro ability, and no focus creeping, internal focusing. Great review Dustin
As usual fantastic and complete review. I had the 2.8 G2 that I changed for the Tamron 150-600 G2. Because I like wild life photography. But I regret my G2. I still have the possibility to buy it back. But I wonder if the f4 will be more appropriate in my camera bag... So I hesitate... 😉.
I've been surprised by the 70-210, partly because I have a little of that 'fast glass philistine' built in. As you discovered, the 70-210 hardly breathes at all and the results up close are dramatic because of it. The bokeh is also quite lovely, with nice fall off in all the right places. I see you've tumbled to the philosophy of being more universally compliant to hybrid AF systems :) the 100-400 and 24-70 G2 also do very well in this regard. Sweet 1st look, sir. As always you set the standard. P.s. the SP 90mm Macro has a 62mm filter diameter. We missed the 67mm memo on that one ;)
The focus motor approach is pretty obvious just from the sound (or lack thereof) when shooting in Contrast mode. The tradeoff seems to be a little less focus speed in Phase Detect. It's probably the right choice considering how must the shooting market is divided between the two approaches now.
Hi Dustin, Could be this Tamron 70-210mm F4 Di VC god enough for ( wedding inside the church -plan B) with the Z6 for video ??? Best regards from Norway
Great technical review, Dustin. I just saw a field test review comparing the Tamron 70-210 F/4 to Nikon's 70-200 F/4. That review was similarly positive, but noted (and demonstrated) some close-range focus breathing. I look forward to your field test. I almost pulled the trigger on Tamron's 70-200 F/2.8 G2. Glad I held off. The Tamron F/4 for Canon looks really good for my needs.
I don't know where they are getting the focus breathing accusation. The lens focuses down to a similar distance to the Nikon lens (just a fraction closer) and has a much larger maximum magnification figure. (0.27x for the Nikon, 0.32x for the Tamron). There is no way that it breathes more than the Nikon. Someone is making something out of nothing. By the way, the G2 has a maximum magnification of less than 0.17x; it actually focus breathes!
Dustin Abbott Yes, I've seen multiple reports about the F/2.8 G2 focus breathing, including yours. That said, I mainly plan to use a long zoom for nature and landscape, so close focus breathing doesn't concern me much. The Tamron F/4 looks like a winner for my purposes. Thanks again.
Reposting the first comment that I made on this video, just to bring it to your attention. Thanks for the first look! I've been looking forward to learning more about this lens. Also, when you do the image quality tests, could you please compare it to the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 as well? For landscape photographers, if the IQ is quite similar, it would make sense going for this, considering the cost and weight savings. Thanks again.
I plan to, yes, and you can see images from that combination in the image gallery linked in the description already. The resulting images are excellent.
My heart stops beating every time that 5D mkIV is shaking at the edge of the table :p Maybe it's just me and the amount of cofee every day, but the focus ring at the far edge or the lens is a huge minus, keeping it stable and balanced demands a lot more efforts
Could you please do one of your famous lens comparisons with the Sony GM 24-70 and the new Tamron 28-75 (EMOUNT:)). BTW, thank you again for the Sony/Zeiss 50 VS. 55 comparisons, it's even on sale here in TO. Picking up the 50 thanks to your fact filled video.
Thank you Dustin! Great work! I am in the market to get a 70-200 (or 210) and was thinking about getting Tamron's 2.8 G2, but I put that on hold when I found out the Tamron 70-210 f/4 was coming to market. I would be using the lens on my Canon 80D and shooting a lot of outdoor action sports (mostly bicycle racing). The smaller size and lighter weight of the f/4 lens is very appealing; of course the $500 price difference doesn't hurt either. I am eager to hear your further review of it's focusing speed and image quality. I loved the focus aquisition test you did on the Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 with your dog running at you. Looking forward to the next installment!
Great! I love your detailed reviews. They help my knowledge to make me a more informed consumer and more informed about photography. When I make my decision it will be in part thanks to you and I will be sure to use your links to purchase.
Heh heh heh! Dustin said “sexy”! Excellent review, as always. I have loved my Canon ef 70-200mm f/4 is, but am suffering from the manual “focus slip” which is very disappointing for a lens of this type and quality. I will be investigating the cost of repair vs. buying the Tamron given its great price.
Going to bet that the lens collar is actually a useful accessory, unlike the ones offered by Canisonikon (and Sigma too) which are all just useless. I finally found an RRS arca-swiss compatible lens foot for my 70-200 for a reasonable price ($120 new for that thing is not reasonable in my book), threw the original one into my bin of useless metal parts. One day, one day we would see useful collars from these silly companies.
Great review as usual. I cant get who is the target market for this lens. f4 not tempting for pros, 70-200 range is not tempting for amateurs. threre are tons of other lenses which tamron should focus on. by the way you know everyone waiting for your review on Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III for E mount.
There's obviously been a market for the Canon 70-200 f/4L IS (the word on the street is that a MK II is imminent), so I think Tamron will be able to sell this lens.
Hi, I think that a 70-200 f4 is interesting for both amateur and pros. I have a Tamron 70-200 G2 2.8 and the Canon EF 70-200 f4 (no IS). The f4 is with me on professional shoots as a cheaper backup solution should my 2.8 break at a wedding. I also use it in studio like settings with speedlites where I know I won't need image stabilsation and f2.8. And the problems with amateurs is, that they don't know what is good for them! ;-) I think that the non IS version of the 70-200 f4 is the cheapest way to buy yourself into a world of sharp, fast focusing and realiable glass. I am sure a lot of people would be happier with a 70-200 f4 then with a 70-300 variable aperture lens. And honestly, when I go out and shoot just for fun, I have a 70-200 f4 and a prime and a prime of my taste with me, instead of my 70-200 f2.8.
Depends on the kind of pros you're talking about. Not every professional needs a giant 2.8 aperture. 70-200 2.8 is the go to lens for wedding photographers that shoot handheld and deal with a lot of low light. Will also be useful to those who do indoor sports, motorsport or other fast moving objects. Landscape photographers would like the f/4 due to the light weight and still great image quality, when traveling. Most of the time they don't need a fast aperture because they close it down to f/8-f/11. Thomas Heaton uses the 70-200 f/4 for this very reason. I've rented the f/2.8 IS, and that beast is much too heavy to be lugging around. Beautiful lens with amazing image quality, but it's too much for what I do.
I owned the Canon f/4 IS and it was stolen recently. I like this lens that much that I will get it or the Tamron or the Mk2 L that might be announced shortly. Its sharp, relatively compact and a constant f/4. The 70-300 options are not as good optically and are not as well weather sealed (extending zoom mechanism) and have a variable aperture. The f/2.8 options are nearly twice as expensive, large and heavy. So the f/4 certainly fits many uses better than the others. I used it especially for landscapes, wildlife (squirrels, deer, lizards, birds...), portraits, ... well nearly anything. For low light or even shallower DoF I can use primes as the price and weight of pime+f/4 is as much as a f/2.8.
What. is it with these F4 aperture lenses, you absolutely need a flash with you, I still prefer F2.8. when ever possible .....I HAVE THE SIGMA 24-105MM F4 LENS and it is great, but I must carry a flash.....
It seems you are choosing the wrong tools for the job and that is completely your mistake. 70-200 f/2.8 lenses are available from all first and third party manufacturers for you to purchase. This is more useful for those that want to travel relatively light weight and have more light to work with.
Your mention of the rarity of the 70 -210 mm range in modern telephoto zoom lenses sent me back nearly 30 years to reconsider the memory of my first Canon EF lens: a Canon EF 70-210mm f/4 AFD telephoto zoom lens. That 70 -210 mm lens (which lived happily on an EOS One for more than two decades) seemed, if memory serves, to reflect the prevailing opinion of the era's optical gurus: use of magnification/zoom ranges greater than one to three was thought to entail unacceptable loss of image quality. The popularity of very good budget zoom lenses (Canon's EF-S 55-250mm lens) and ne plus ultra Canon L zooms (EF 100-400mm, EF 70-300mm) which exceed that one to three zoom range seems to demonstrate that this particular optical shibboleth was overstated or is outdated. Your very positive review of this Tamron 70-210 mm f/4 lens suggests that limiting zoom range and keeping maximum aperture down may still be key to lens makers' being able to provide better image quality at a relatively modest cost.
The focal length is the one that Tamron has traditionally made (going back to the adaptall days). This (and the new 28-75 for Sony), may actually leverage some of their optical experience with these focal lengths/maximum apertures.
I appreciate the comprehensive overviews you do discussing various usability criteria of the items your review. You're a gifted teacher and communicator, Dustin, and I always enjoy your work. If I do videos in the future, please know that I am definitely inspired by your approach.
The Canon 70-200 F/4L IS USM is my favorite landscape lens; my only issue with it is the construction of the focus mechanism (it's this weird clutch held together by a few friction fit struts), but it's built wonderfully and produces amazing images otherwise. The magnification on the Tamron is pretty cool, and I am vexed sometimes by the Canon's focus on my A7RIII, but it's good to know to know that I'm not going to be missing out a lot that I care about by keeping my Canon.
Maybe I'm just shallow, but the Tamron engineered plastic shows wear so easily, yet my 70-200 still looks brand new, and I can't get over the off-beige signature color, and those are definitely factors in my general uninterest in the Tamron. I really do respect the new Tamron lenses, although having tried a number of them they're not exactly my cup of tea. Maybe it's the focus ring placement,
Sure, I understand. I do agree that some Tamron lenses show marking more (though I've actually not had issues with the 4 that I own.
I always thought 3rd party lenses wouldn't exceed native lenses except price-performance ratio. But Sigma Art or recent Tamron lenses changed my mind. It's so amazing that Tamron 70-210 F4 is quite capable for some near macro pictures.
As always, thanks for your comprehensive review that I can understand easlily.
They've come a long way, and that close focus capability is very useful in my mind.
Really interesting piece of glass. Learned about its existence just today.
Fore sure.
Great start as usual ! I'll be looking for the final
There's definitely a number of tests that I want to run, but it's shaping up pretty well.
Excellent review as always Justin, and have been keen to see your thoughts on this new lens.
Your reviews are my go to standard and I would buy a lens on your reviews alone.
I love the detail you go into and I feel confident you cannot go wrong with a recommendation you give. Keep up the excellent work.
Thank You Dustin Abbott.
You're welcome. Stay tuned as I break down the image quality.
Thanks Dustin. I have been looking at this lens for landscape photography
Interesting. It seems like it will work fine in that application.
I have the G2 on my Nikon D850 and it's the best/ sharpest lens I have owned in 45 years of photography. Tamron has raised the game and in many aspects beat the game. Thanks, Dustin :) Gaelic Memories Photography
I'm actually going to benchmark the G2 (70-200) for this comparison, since I have it on hand.
Excellent indepth review, I have just ordered along with my Canon Eos R7 instead of kit lens.
This review is surely helpful to gain confidence and knowledge.
Thanks a ton..have wonderful time.
I’m glad it has helped out.
didn't even know about this lens yet! I bought the 100-400mm right after your review about it and its a great lens! my uncle owns the canon one and its A LOT heavier. a thing i was surprised by though is that the zoom ring is inverted compared to the other canon and sigma lenses i own. not sure why that is, but therefore i mostly use it as a push-pull zoom which it seems to be doing fine as well (and also works pretty great with the sun hood on)
The push-pull approach works fine.
Brilliant review
Thank you.
Can you please advise if it is possible to fit a converter. Thank you. Another good video
The lens is definitely compatible with Tamron's teleconverters.
Sir wich will be better 70-210 f4 or 100-400 f4.5-6.3 in terms of optical performance.I use canon 80D. please let me know.Thank you!
Good morning Dustin, thanks for all your complete reviews, they helped me a lot to finally get a Canon M5 and the 22mm which I am very satisfied with. Now for my FF system I am oriented in buying this new lens or the Canon 70-200 f4 is. Yesterday I got the chance to try 2 used copies of the "white thing" and I love it, but... I experienced a not really nice problem on the manual focus ring: basically, if you put the lens vertically, the focus ring starts slipping, it turns but nothing happens in the distance window. It happened in the both copies that I tried and I got to know it is a known problem. Have you ever heard about or experienced it?
I am more convinced to get the new "black thing" by Tamron. Thanks again, luigi.
I didn't experience it myself, but I've heard about that issue.
Excellent video Dustin....!!!
I am planning to buy a telephoto lens...but I hve got confused b/w Tamron 70-210, 70-300 and 100-400
All are priced very next to each other.... Please suggest your thoughts regarding this purchase
What kind of telephoto work do you want to do? The 70-210 gives you a constant maximum aperture. The 100-400 gives you the most reach. The 70-300 is the most compact.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I need a telephoto to document my travels(takes images/videos of landscape, people, food) ... I am not into bird/wildlife photography but maybe in future I may.... I currently own a nikon D7500 and a sigma 17-70mm lens with some godox flash...
Let me also share my current thought process / doubts....
70-300 compared to 70-210 has higher reach but lacks...weather sealing...but has variable aperture across zoom range...but is very inexpensive,... If I go for this I can invest in a gimbal with the remaining amount... But if I consider long term use...that I may go for some adventure, treks...weather sealing is a good to have feature and it is good to buy a fast lens...70-210 makes sense .... and in future if I want to go for wildlife, I will invest separately in a more dedicated lens like 150-600....
Also, 70-300/70-210 are much lighter than 100-600 ...which is good for travels / my hiking expedition.,..
Or....
Invest in a 100-600 and put things to rest....the need for higher focal length is met one shot.... currently there isn't much price difference between 70-210 and 100-600...
Hope I was able to make my confusions clear to u... Kindly, help me as there is an ongoing sale here in india...
It sounds like the plan to buy the 70-210 makes the most sense for now, and then you can add a longer lens later. Or choose the 100-400. It’s reasonably light and has weather sealing and will give you a lot of reach on your D7500
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks Dustin for your response... It really helps...!!!
Thanks for the first look! I've been looking forward to learning more about this lens. Also, when you do the image quality tests, could you please compare it to the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 as well? For landscape photographers, if the IQ is quite similar, it would make sense going for this, considering the cost and weight savings. Cheers.
Thanks for the excellent detailed introduction and I look forward to the full test. Please be sure to test for focus breathing, that is, do we get that full 210mm of reach at closer distances. I worry more about focus breathing in a 24-70mm than in a longer zoom but it's still historically a characteristic of Tamron zooms and of interest. Thank you.
There's definitely no focus breathing - that's the reason the magnification figure is so much higher than the f/2.8 version.
Thanks for the great first look review!
My pleasure.
I was desperate about this video of yours. I was unable to decide between canon's L offering and tamron's newly released one. Thanks Dustin. I will be waiting for the final review as well. 😊
I'll have another episode on it in about a week.
Excellent works!! I am running both Canon dslr and Sony A7iii. Look forward to your detailed comments on the lens with MC11 adaptor. Many thanks!!
That's definitely in the works.
Wow, I wanted this to replace sony 70-200 f4. Mostly for weight. But it has a lot of other useful aspects to it. Like semi macro ability, and no focus creeping, internal focusing. Great review Dustin
It's definitely shaping up to a useful lens.
Good morning Rev. Abbott,
Would you kindly make a recommendation, while mounted on an 80D, if it needs the tripod support..??
That depends. It's light enough that I don't think it will overstress the mount, but it will balance better with the tripod collar.
Thank you.
I agree and have one for the 100-400mm, but if I recall these Tamron feet are pricey at $129..!!!!
As usual fantastic and complete review.
I had the 2.8 G2 that I changed for the Tamron 150-600 G2. Because I like wild life photography. But I regret my G2. I still have the possibility to buy it back. But I wonder if the f4 will be more appropriate in my camera bag...
So I hesitate... 😉.
It's hard to argue with the prices you can find on the F4 lenses these days.
I've been surprised by the 70-210, partly because I have a little of that 'fast glass philistine' built in. As you discovered, the 70-210 hardly breathes at all and the results up close are dramatic because of it. The bokeh is also quite lovely, with nice fall off in all the right places. I see you've tumbled to the philosophy of being more universally compliant to hybrid AF systems :) the 100-400 and 24-70 G2 also do very well in this regard.
Sweet 1st look, sir. As always you set the standard.
P.s. the SP 90mm Macro has a 62mm filter diameter. We missed the 67mm memo on that one ;)
The focus motor approach is pretty obvious just from the sound (or lack thereof) when shooting in Contrast mode. The tradeoff seems to be a little less focus speed in Phase Detect. It's probably the right choice considering how must the shooting market is divided between the two approaches now.
Hi Dustin, Could be this Tamron 70-210mm F4 Di VC god enough for ( wedding inside the church -plan B) with the Z6 for video ??? Best regards from Norway
I suspect the answer is yes.
Great technical review, Dustin. I just saw a field test review comparing the Tamron 70-210 F/4 to Nikon's 70-200 F/4. That review was similarly positive, but noted (and demonstrated) some close-range focus breathing. I look forward to your field test. I almost pulled the trigger on Tamron's 70-200 F/2.8 G2. Glad I held off. The Tamron F/4 for Canon looks really good for my needs.
I don't know where they are getting the focus breathing accusation. The lens focuses down to a similar distance to the Nikon lens (just a fraction closer) and has a much larger maximum magnification figure. (0.27x for the Nikon, 0.32x for the Tamron). There is no way that it breathes more than the Nikon. Someone is making something out of nothing. By the way, the G2 has a maximum magnification of less than 0.17x; it actually focus breathes!
Dustin Abbott Yes, I've seen multiple reports about the F/2.8 G2 focus breathing, including yours. That said, I mainly plan to use a long zoom for nature and landscape, so close focus breathing doesn't concern me much. The Tamron F/4 looks like a winner for my purposes. Thanks again.
Is it good for video shooting with FTZ adapter?
@@luxpictura3617 I don't know. I shoot Canon, as I noted in my original comment. Ultimately I bought the Canon EF 70-200 F4L instead of either Tamron.
Thanks ! ! !
You're welcome.
Have you tried this with the Sigma MC-11 on a Sony Mirrorless camera?
Yes I have. You'll find a gallery of images with that combo in the description link. It works pretty well.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Great video!!! I would like to know if the VC works if I adapt it with mc-11 to my a7ii. If so how well is it?
Hey sweet channel ☺ Keep it up!
That's the plan.
What is the rubber gasket thing around the 70-200 G2? I'd like something like this for mine when I don't carry the tripod collar.
Ahh, yes - it's from EasyCover. Take a look here: bhpho.to/2rsw9ES
Reposting the first comment that I made on this video, just to bring it to your attention.
Thanks for the first look! I've been looking forward to learning more about this lens. Also, when you do the image quality tests, could you please compare it to the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 G2 as well? For landscape photographers, if the IQ is quite similar, it would make sense going for this, considering the cost and weight savings. Thanks again.
That's part of the plan.
Thank you for this much awaited (by me at least) review. Will you please test it with MC-11 and Sony A7R3? I am a Sony shooter
I plan to, yes, and you can see images from that combination in the image gallery linked in the description already. The resulting images are excellent.
hello is comptible with canon t1i the tamron 70-210mm f/4?
Absolutely.
My heart stops beating every time that 5D mkIV is shaking at the edge of the table :p
Maybe it's just me and the amount of cofee every day, but the focus ring at the far edge or the lens is a huge minus, keeping it stable and balanced demands a lot more efforts
It's actually the zoom ring that is further out; the focus ring is closer.
oops, i wanted to say zoom ring, sorry.
It's a Canon 5D line, if it falls off the table, the floor is really what you'd have to worry about.
LOL - maybe so!
Could you please do one of your famous lens comparisons with the Sony GM 24-70 and the new Tamron 28-75 (EMOUNT:)). BTW, thank you again for the Sony/Zeiss 50 VS. 55 comparisons, it's even on sale here in TO. Picking up the 50 thanks to your fact filled video.
I would like to do that comparison, though I'm working on clearing up a bit of an issue with customs on getting in loaner lenses right now.
Sigma 105 Art Next Please!
I'll definitely review it, though I don't know the timing yet.
Thank you Dustin! Great work!
I am in the market to get a 70-200 (or 210) and was thinking about getting Tamron's 2.8 G2, but I put that on hold when I found out the Tamron 70-210 f/4 was coming to market. I would be using the lens on my Canon 80D and shooting a lot of outdoor action sports (mostly bicycle racing). The smaller size and lighter weight of the f/4 lens is very appealing; of course the $500 price difference doesn't hurt either.
I am eager to hear your further review of it's focusing speed and image quality. I loved the focus aquisition test you did on the Tamron 70-200 2.8 G2 with your dog running at you. Looking forward to the next installment!
Steven, I'll definitely be testing all of those things.
Great! I love your detailed reviews. They help my knowledge to make me a more informed consumer and more informed about photography. When I make my decision it will be in part thanks to you and I will be sure to use your links to purchase.
Heh heh heh! Dustin said “sexy”! Excellent review, as always.
I have loved my Canon ef 70-200mm f/4 is, but am suffering from the manual “focus slip” which is very disappointing for a lens of this type and quality. I will be investigating the cost of repair vs. buying the Tamron given its great price.
Repairing lenses can be pretty ridiculous in terms of cost.
I've drawn a money line over which I will not cross.
How many stops of VC can it do?
Tamron rates it at four stops.
Going to bet that the lens collar is actually a useful accessory, unlike the ones offered by Canisonikon (and Sigma too) which are all just useless. I finally found an RRS arca-swiss compatible lens foot for my 70-200 for a reasonable price ($120 new for that thing is not reasonable in my book), threw the original one into my bin of useless metal parts.
One day, one day we would see useful collars from these silly companies.
I too really value the Arca-swiss compatible tripod feet. So much more useful!
Great review as usual. I cant get who is the target market for this lens. f4 not tempting for pros, 70-200 range is not tempting for amateurs. threre are tons of other lenses which tamron should focus on. by the way you know everyone waiting for your review on Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 Di III for E mount.
There's obviously been a market for the Canon 70-200 f/4L IS (the word on the street is that a MK II is imminent), so I think Tamron will be able to sell this lens.
I'm already getting input from Tamron about the 28-75, so that will be coming.
Hi, I think that a 70-200 f4 is interesting for both amateur and pros. I have a Tamron 70-200 G2 2.8 and the Canon EF 70-200 f4 (no IS). The f4 is with me on professional shoots as a cheaper backup solution should my 2.8 break at a wedding. I also use it in studio like settings with speedlites where I know I won't need image stabilsation and f2.8.
And the problems with amateurs is, that they don't know what is good for them! ;-) I think that the non IS version of the 70-200 f4 is the cheapest way to buy yourself into a world of sharp, fast focusing and realiable glass. I am sure a lot of people would be happier with a 70-200 f4 then with a 70-300 variable aperture lens.
And honestly, when I go out and shoot just for fun, I have a 70-200 f4 and a prime and a prime of my taste with me, instead of my 70-200 f2.8.
Depends on the kind of pros you're talking about. Not every professional needs a giant 2.8 aperture. 70-200 2.8 is the go to lens for wedding photographers that shoot handheld and deal with a lot of low light. Will also be useful to those who do indoor sports, motorsport or other fast moving objects. Landscape photographers would like the f/4 due to the light weight and still great image quality, when traveling. Most of the time they don't need a fast aperture because they close it down to f/8-f/11. Thomas Heaton uses the 70-200 f/4 for this very reason. I've rented the f/2.8 IS, and that beast is much too heavy to be lugging around. Beautiful lens with amazing image quality, but it's too much for what I do.
I owned the Canon f/4 IS and it was stolen recently. I like this lens that much that I will get it or the Tamron or the Mk2 L that might be announced shortly. Its sharp, relatively compact and a constant f/4.
The 70-300 options are not as good optically and are not as well weather sealed (extending zoom mechanism) and have a variable aperture.
The f/2.8 options are nearly twice as expensive, large and heavy.
So the f/4 certainly fits many uses better than the others. I used it especially for landscapes, wildlife (squirrels, deer, lizards, birds...), portraits, ... well nearly anything.
For low light or even shallower DoF I can use primes as the price and weight of pime+f/4 is as much as a f/2.8.
Less talking and some example pictures would be better.
What. is it with these F4 aperture lenses, you absolutely need a flash with you, I still prefer F2.8. when ever possible .....I HAVE THE SIGMA 24-105MM F4 LENS and it is great, but I must carry a flash.....
It seems you are choosing the wrong tools for the job and that is completely your mistake. 70-200 f/2.8 lenses are available from all first and third party manufacturers for you to purchase. This is more useful for those that want to travel relatively light weight and have more light to work with.
I totally disagree with you.......