What about a video on the acceptance and rise of nerd culture? It used to be something people were ashamed about and bullied for, but now it's like in vogue.
My biggest gripe with the Hipster subculture is that it takes something that is normally free or inexpensive and makes it really expensive and damn near unaffordable.😆
@finnessco Fair enough. But in the case of men’s haircuts, haircuts was a standard thing the vast majority of men were getting in pre-hipster times. The prices for a haircut in barbershops in the pre-hipster times were reasonable. Then enter the hipsters and they started making barbershops into something exclusive/vintage…and pricey $$$. And btw, I believe they really exaggerated with the “vintage” because it’s not as if barbershops existed only in the 20s/30s. They have always been around, together with that red white and blue moving cylinder on the outside of the barbershop.
@@TheConcertmasteryup they'd charge like 40 bucks for a very basic men's haircut that takes around 10-15 minutes and was no better than what you'd get at supercuts for like 15 bucks, and if you went to a place like supercuts theyd think it was lame or whatever. Kindve like drinking regular old coffee was lame.
In my mid 20's, I went to a job interview in Tucson. Afterwards, still in my suit, I went to a street fair, where I met a very cute Goth girl, who took me to a Goth club. So there I was, dancing in a business suit in a club full of non-conformists who were all dressed alike, and really standing out, getting all the attention. It was all very meta. I had a very similar experience fifteen years later in a Portland cafe.
I had a similar experience about a decade ago. I let my beard grow because it kept my face warm at the type of job I worked. But I am also lazy and just let it grow without keeping it neatly trimmed. So one night I wake up to a party being thrown by my roommates at the time. I walked into the kitchen and immediately some guy, a hipster ironically, was like "who is the guy with the hipster beard?" One of my roommates just laughed and informed the guy that I was about as far from hipster that one could be. I jokingly said "those are fighting words", but I never really had a problem with hipsters.
I'm grateful to hipsters for bringing about the rebirth of vinyl records and Polaroid/Fujifilm cameras. In an age where everything is turning into a digital subscription, it's nice to have your music and memories in physical form.
From the rise of modern Hardcore scene, post Hardcore music, into actual emo, not poser scene screamO kids,, Records returned at shows.. then Cassette etc.. now I even own rare CDs haha it's about music.. find it..
but on the music making side, vintage analog Synths(like the Mini Moog) also became very trendy for the hipster types who really weren't musicians and pushed prices up for the vintage market which made things very expensive for the rest of us.
You forgot that the Beatniks of the 50's and 60's ideas and culture are definitely part of what evolved into the modern Hipster culture as well. That stuff started gaining traction in the 90's when the first coffee stores started opening a long side book stores like Boarders and people were using manic panic to dye their hair blue.
The beatniks became the hippies. Allen Ginsberg and hung out with the Merry Pranksters and Neal Cassady drove the bus. But yeah a little odd to skip over that movement.
@@olafurhold-gus7125 it literally started with 1940’s and then skipped over the 50’s and 60’s era beatniks which is an important historical aspect of the hipster.
I remember an animated short where a guy said he used to invent band names when talking to hipsters, because they seemed to compete on who listened the most obscure groups, and when they couldn't find the band he just made up he would just say: "of course you can't find them, they are totally under the radar", therefore "wining" the conpetition
Do you know Roadblock by Pete Waterman as in Stock Aitken and Waterman… they produced super mainstream pop. In 1987 they released an original track they wrote called: ‘Road Block’ anonymously… and started a rumor it was a cover or reissue (can’t remember which) of a ‘rare groove’ old track. More than one DJ said they had the original… many said they remembered the original. Once it was massive in the UK underground party scene they said they made it.
Dunno, but hipsters seem more like a low-rent version of 'Yuppies', always 'virtue signaling' by whatever they _consume..._ aka, gourmet coffee, craft beer, artisanal cheese, whatever, and of course the inevitable music/movies/art... _"That you've probably never heard of before"._ ;-p
It is problematic when your personality is formed around your dislikes instead of your likes. The real hipsters are those who’s identity is formed around their likes, regardless of how niche or mainstream those likes are, to the point that they uniquely stand out because of it. And that just might be the most basic hipster thing I’ve ever said. 😂 This one’s a banger Jimmy. Keep it up! 💥
@@dat_boii The simple idea of focusing on your identity seems trivial when it comes to survival on earth. I assume if you're privileged enough you have time to worry about such things.
The beatniks and the Mods are basically the first hipsters. It’s about enjoying culture that`s « hand made». Mass production and the perfectionism and lack of « analog feeling», creates a identity anxiety. It’s also a form of fetisjism of urban middle class mixed with bohemian taste. It’s also a « escapeism» from once own class, rase, gender, nationality. Obsession with Jazz ( the beatniks), and italian design ( the mods), is still a vital part of hipster culture
@@Ikaros23 there are/were so many subcultures. I used to be goth, then industrial, my friends were metalists (not sure if this is the correct term in English), there were also emo's, cyber goths, skinheads, punks and everything in between. We were growing up with a distaste of the current world, all of the expressions were an example how much we don't give a fuck. Then we grew up, earned some money and became jaded and sometimes even cynical. Considering the background feeling of despair and possible worldwide war, I think we are in turn for turbulent times ahead. Good times, weak men do that. But hey, it will make us better in the long term. At least that's what I believe. You have a good day now.
In my art school days, preppy was still cool, not being part of the drug. Drop out culture the media scandilizied the subculture effectively. Thereby destroying it. Preppy meant academia which meant being able too read things like consumer reports magazine. sorry I studied industrial design as a drop in. Corporate is nothing too be proud of.
Hipsters will always have a soft spot in my heart. It represents a specific time before things got definitively mean spirited and angry. I think the pandemic was the final nail for that time. As cringe as the 2010's hipster culture was with the jangly twee music and fun ironic vibe, it feels like a lighter time. Times I spent in dimly lit bars with Edison lights and rough hewn wood with people who weren't interested in being aggressive or proving their insecurity. I look back on it positively.
I feel the same because I lived through it. Although I was in a different counter culture niche, there were a lot of overlaps w hipster-dome. The problem is the hipsters all graduated college and became the corporate boardroom culture and turned the culture into the very mean spirited, spiteful, woke cancel culture. Basically Trump made everyone go insane.
The most funny ironic moment was when a hipster tried to sue a magazine for using his photo in an article about how all these 'individualists' looked exactly alike. Only for the photo to turn out to be of someone else.
A "hipster" is any kind of "bourgeois bohemian" across the ages, and take many forms. Usually middle-class or well-off urbanites who fetishize culture from the working class, rural people, ethnic minorities, past eras, or far-away countries they consider "exotic".
@@flower5185 I thought the 1950s "beatnicks" were the first modern hipsters but no doubt there was much earlier examples, as they're typical of urban life.
What really happened with hipsters is that it went mainstream and fell out of fashion and the OG hipsters are still quietly going about being hipsters utterly thrilled to be forgotten again.
Same happened with Geek Chic. Everyone will have a spotlight on them at some point just so someone can market it as cool fashion. It used to be a 20 years cycle but I believe it has accelerated recently.
When the girl in the elevator said she loves the Smiths. The look he had when she left was not lovestruck, it was him realizing he needs to find another band to listen to.
There was a dude who lived in my old apartment complex who look like he walked out of 1940s Ireland or something. Bushy red beard Newsboy cap suspenders, dungarees pants, wool button up shirt, work boots and the horn-rimmed glasses. Cat was insufferable. I nicknamed him Craft Brew.
Believe me, we had hipsters in the 80s and 90s. The girls all with the same Bette Paige hairdo, boys wearing Buddy Holly glasses, everyone in vintage clothing sitting around in cafes talking about their Deep Philosophy about life
You seem to be describing rockabilly/beatnik, which hipsters are not. Hipsters have a more teddy roosevelt meets lumberjack/butcher meets obscure niche arthouse film fan meets organic farmer's market stall owner vibe to them.
Yes! I experienced the obnoxious hipster in 1996-2000 in Austin TX. I think this trend started in the universities. Austin had a lot of obscure bands.It was the “[Crappy] music capital of the world.” All conversations were political that swayed heavily toward the left and and they stank like hell and all of them looked and thought the same. I was so glad to leave there.
1) it was always very consumerist, unlike most previous subcultures (and very into its design aesthetics) 2) vinyl vinyl vinyl 3) beards - finally died - and tattoos - now even your gran has them. You can't be identified by your piercings, bad tattoos and beards if everyone has them. But at one point, 99.9% of men under about 55 had a beard, so the hipster deserves full marks for taking over the world, briefly I loved this video, i watched it out of nostalgia for the pre-pandemic world and it fully delivered. I think your point about 'retro' is the core of it. I think it grew out of the 30s 40s 50s etc "scenes" meeting the internet, growing, and merging into this huge popularity. Or thrift shops took off once the internet made it possible for the obscure to meet the one person who would want to buy it and it became financially viable to sell it
You're so right about Hipster becoming mainstream culture. Using Instagram was considered hipster and now it's the biggest social app. I also remember being called hipster by some friends for wearing loud print shirts, vintage sportswear, going to festivals and raving and stuff but that quite soon became what literally every young person did. Shoreditch is now a night out for office workers and street food markets are run by multi-million pound firms.
yes because everyone is a follower and became a hipster. its pretty simple. as i said earlier, if you have more then one social media app on your phone, youre probably a hipster. the irony of the situation is the hipsters outnumber the non hipsters. so all the hipsters are going to agree and upvote you while downvoting me for accusing them precisely of what they are, followers.
In Montreal, I first spotted the hipster in the Mile End area. It started with people showing up at bars to read books. Then I noticed a lot of people dressing weird but similar. I even thought to myself, "Is looking homeless trendy?"
There’s a lot you’re missing that is really important. You’re not mentioning the 80s and 90s independent college rock music culture. There was so much going on in the 90s that was purely artists/djs that continued that mentality of appreciating other than pop music quality. Let’s not forget art culture from that time as well. The hipster from the 2000s was also influenced by skateboarding culture and “emo” fashion. All that 2000s stuff was pure keeping up with trends and an amalgamation of everything before that time, but very much focused on 80s subculture.
Actually the 90 's where the start of the downsloape . If you look carefully you will see that rock & co culture where establshed in the 70--s and have had a culminating point in the 90 -s with all the huge icons of that time ( Depeche Mode, David Bowie , Prince , Queen , soooooo ...much ..Chicago , AC/DC ...the list is huge ) . No equivalent of those came in the 90 s . Less in 2000 or now . Fact .
@@cooltrades7469 Omg, you sound like a fudd. "Back in my day, when the music was good.." Good and bad music has always been with us, in every decade. And always will be.
Yeah the underground counter culture, yet somewhat commercial artists/bands like Beck, Björk, Aphex Twin, Moby, Boards of Canada were all starting in the 90:s.
Hipsterism never dies, it just submits to new trends. Cab Calloway's hepsters become beats and mods and hippies and punk rockers and skinny pants/ties and emo/goths and grunge mosh-pitters in tattered leggings and flannel shirts... The only constant is the thrift store shopping. Even the word "hipster" seems like it is always accompanied by quotation marks...
@@joshuafult84 I'd say there is an underlying theme of the hipster being snobby and obtuse in whatever subculture there're in. For instance the woke crowd is snobby on knowing more about morals than everyone else when clearly they have no idea lol.
I would say a good analysis now would be “how everyone became a hipster” as there doesn’t seem to be a word for hipster for this young generation but when I go past a college all the hipster trends seem in the mainstream. I think it is because of the internet. You no longer have to search record shops for old music or go to gigs to find the new band, you can just go online, you don’t need to search thrift shops for cool clothes, you can just click online and next day it arrives, similar with movies, books, finding the best club nights etc
The glasses thing really irritated me because those of us who actually need them found the prices skyrocketed, and it was already expensive at that point.
Naw. That was Luxottica. Glasses have always been trendy, only styles change. Remember cat eye glasses from the 50’s-60’s. Tiny glasses from the 90’s, ect. I buy mine from zenni and other non luxottica brands. Much more affordable.
@@EzeICE No, we dislike things because everyone else seems to like them falsley, or be pretending to like something for the image. then suddenly that thing becomes hard to like because so many phony people pretend to like it. I cant enjoy wearing a black and red flannel alone at my cabin in the woods because i feel like i match a phony hipster.
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 You called the way you dress "Normal" and then in the same sentence you said that you don't push the things you like (The way you dress for instance) on to other people. I'd say lumping the way you dress into the "Normal" category (As opposed to people who dress "Abnormally"?) is kind of a way of pushing what you like onto other people.
I was definitely a hipster as a teenager but i grew out of the pretentiousness and kept the love of underground music. It went from “oh you wouldn’t know them” to “oh dude lemme show you these guys!”, it felt much better to share bands not many people have heard of and even better to see those bands succeed
As a late stage gen Xer, my bitch about the hipster was their adoption of stuff some people have always liked (the Smiths, Steely Dan, flannel, beer, coffee) and thinking they discovered something, even though you've been enjoying it since childhood. That know-it-all attitude and makes them so annoying.
What annoyed me was "I like this thing *ironically*." WTH does that even mean? Like darlin' I grew up listening to Journey because they were my parents' favorite band, and so I like them too, but suddenly someone 10 years younger than me discovers them but can't admit they like them for real so they claim it's "ironic"? Are you Alanis Morisette? Do you know what that word means?
@@PheOfTheFae Yeah the word irony effectively lost all its meaning like it did with the mid 90's youth culture. It's hard to be ironic on purpose, and you can't just completely exist in it. Eventually you will like things that you enjoy "ironically".
This video is incredibly on point but, as I've seen throughout my life, (born 1961) the phenomenon of a subset of young people rejecting that which is mainstream simply because it is popular and then losing the fight as they age and their counterculture is absorbed by the mainstream is a constant in every generation. Very well described by your analysis of hipster culture!
Hipsters never die. Being a hipster is an attitude, not a specific look and it's been around as long as I remember. It's the snobbery of being too cool for mainstream and striving to be cooler than thou. Accompanied by sneering at anything they deem uncool, like owning a TV, or being employed by anything other than a Start Up.
I disagree entirely. All it is, is dressing snazzy. Any negative attitudes solely rest on the individual themselves. I've met plenty of people who dress hipster who are fine. Most are. The idea of trying to be elitist exists in certain strongholds like certain neighborhoods of major cities
I hate how anyone with particular tastes is a "hipster snob". The reality is people just like what they like. Labeling someone as pretentious for having taste outside the mainstream is disingenuous. This whole video is a joke because the creator fundamentally doesn't understand "hipster culture" at all
I agree, this mindset is always around. In the 90s remember this was artsy crowd that wore black round sunglasses and french hats? I think they were protrayed perfectly in movie Uncle Buck.
@@marinablack181 that is so not true. There's many many people who like things they don't actually like but do so because they believe it makes them cool
Goths and punks were invented by God to beat up the emos, but punks and goths slowly died out and the emos become attention starved so they evolved into hipsters (elder emos) like pokemon. This only made things worse for them in the end since being whiney, privileged and desperate to fit in makes you hated no matter what little niche subculture you try to skitter into... also, being married with kids is not a subculture, its called selling out and we hate them more for it.
Beatniks were the pre-hipsters. They founded the counter-culture lifestyle that began in the 50's. Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, Ken Kesey. Beatniks like these artists popularized their lifestyle and ideals through art like On the Road, Howl, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, respectively.
I had a bunch of friends who would sit around and be so critical of everyone who didn't have their exact values. I say "had" because I started to find them insufferable to be around so I'd attend fewer and fewer events. Most of them were privileged people who made it their mission to cast aspersions on anyone who didn't also have the luxury to stop/think about higher values. They celebrated inclusivity as long as those included believed the exact same things they did, wore the same clothes, had the came BO and attended the same yoga / meditation retreats. Anti-fashion always becomes fashion. Movements become brand identity. The punk rock movement is a great example. Younger people tend to think they know how to solve their world's problems until they have a kid, get a mortgage or taste really good wine for the first time. When they understand how good something can be or feel the pressure of the reality we've put ourselves in, it's "to hell with the poor, I want a massaging seat and mood lighting in my crossover SUV." The boomers are a shining example of that drastic of a pivot. I suppose I'm less interested in feeling like I'm doing something good and more interested in the actual paradox of being human. The fact that it seems like no matter what decision I make, theres a positive and negative vector of consequences to that decision. This is an interesting age to enter. We've always been propagandized but now the amount of opinions and "truths" and "information" is so thick, it's creating mental breakdowns. People are addicted to the stimulation, 3 year old children crying for their mother's smartphone. Will we rebel against it completely I wonder? I wonder if newspapers will have a resurgence?
I was a hipster in the late 90s. Long before people like me were called hipsters. Back then I was probably just considered an art kid. But I purposely hated everything main stream. As I grew up, I realized I actually liked some mainstream stuff like pop music. And by the time I was in my mid to late 20s, I liked whatever and I didn’t give a shit about liking mainstream stuff. I was a teen with a chip on my shoulder and my hipster hate for most things was a defense mechanism. I was a trip.
the late 90's hipters were cool and were there before it was a super trend. Also keep in mind in the late 90's early 2000's everything mainstream was cringy and awfull for the most part including the music.
"Disliking things doesn't make you an interesting person" is a very good way to put it. Aside from that this is just a comment for the youtube algorithm. Keep up the good work.
I had my first encounter with hipsters in 2002 when I was working in a small office in San Francisco, but I didn't know they were hipsters at the time. I felt like I'd been dropped into a parallel universe.
Around 2010, the hipsters who priced out the local San Franciscans were themselves getting priced out by the new tech ppl. It was really funny to watch
As a fellow San Franciscan of the time, we were at ground zero of their detonation. Then I traveled to NYC and accidentally found myself at their other explosion point (Williamsburg).
I really felt like hipsterish culture really started in the mid late 90s. As Gen X, I was in Hyde Park, Austin, 95-99 TX and it was basically this. Whole Foods in 95 was very crunchy. A lot of punk + hippy mix and saying, "right on...right on." We wore our parents' old clothes from the 70s and went to small town thrift shops to find pearl-button cowboy shirts, steel frame glasses, and 8-tracks for our 70s 8-track / turn table stereos we got from our folks. Also, girls with Betty Page punk bangs, skateboards, monster sideburns.
And for the music bands/Artists like Beck, Björk (extremely important marker for being into weird counterculture music made in a weird way by an icelandic musician), Aphex Twin, Moby (who was a vegetarian 90:s hipster embracing everything what became hipsterish) etc...
We used the word Hipster in the 90s. The word Hipster is kind of like Emo, where it started out meaning one thing, then got co-opted and turned into pejorative term. In the 90s, we used “hipster” to identify someone who had basic knowledge of the counter culture, underground music, and independent film. It had nothing to do with any specific clothing uniform. People from outside the culture invented the reductive stereotype “Hipster,” so naturally the word was abandon by all but those who sought to disparage bohemian culture.
Every generation reinvents the English language to feel special. This generation is just like every other generation of Americans since WWII. They all think they're the most enlightened to ever exist, and everyone who came before them is somehow lame and ignorant. Again, like like every generation since WWII.
Yes! “Someone who had basic knowledge of the counter culture, underground music, and independent film” that’s the the perfect definition! I never considered it a particular style or uniform look.
The problem is, to me, that being what you described became a market in itself. It’s cool to forge your own path and find stuff you like, with websites like letterboxd. But to just be some guy who listens to public radio and watches movies from very popular “hipster” studios religiously (and only that) and fits into this little tiny mold in itself of what a “hipster” is, with thick frame glasses etc? It was revolutionary in the 90s, but it’s overdone nowadays.
Just one little thing - Polaroid wasn't really revived because of hipster demand, but because there was still demand from fans that used it all along. So few of these fans basically revinvented the whole Polaroid as there were no assets left from the old company. Then thanks to the popularity wave, they were able to buy the brand rights and expand the whole company. Pretty cool story, if you ask me
There are a lot of little things. That's why videos like this suck. Whether the authors know it or not, their intention is just go generate money and service basic psychological function. This video was not unique or insightful. And grossly inadequate as an informational. And it's now factual, it's opinion based
As a hipster, nothing gave me more pleasure than explaining to my hipster friends that the fact that they denied being hipsters was the ultimate litmus test for recognizing a hipster.
We've all been there. I told my friend i wasn't a hipster she told me you're litterally patient zero of hipsteria. In dictionnaries the word hipster will probably have your picture next to it.
Hipsters are losers that dress up like telly tubbies. No one respects them on purpose. Grunge, punk and emo on the other hand. 💯💯🤘🎸😎 Just be a slipknot maggot.
For me, the real tragedy of hipster culture is even though we rejected capitalism and consumerism, capitalism co-opted hipster culture and sold it back to us.
We were doing all this stuff in the 80s and 90s. Skinny jeans, retro 50s thrift shop clothes, obscure bands, obsessed with vinyl, the coffee, home brew, organic food etc. I even had a boyfriend with a fixed gear bicycle lol. But that was before the internet, so not many people could catch on. You had to be physically located someplace where there was a scene happening.
Very good point. A lot of regional trends that were popular in the ‘80s & early ‘90s in various parts of the country didn’t really take off until the Internet got ahold of ‘em. The Seattle music scene, instance.
i think the authentic soul of true hipsterism is disavowing bourgeoise concerns, and going beyond everyday mundane materialism. Having more of an interest in simple pleasures and intellectual pursuits such as jazz, poetry, the arts, etc. Having an interest in spiritual pursuits such as yoga, philosophy and vegetarianism, growing your own food,
I definitely used to be the type of person that hated on shit just because it was popular when I was younger but now that I've gotten older I look back on it and realize how childish/silly it is to have that type of mentality. Unfortunately though some people never seem to grow out of this mindset no matter how older they get.
I remember going to to hear a bluegrass band and seeing all these guys in beards and perfectly clean Carharts. It was so bizarre. I didn’t know anyone who had an entire wardrobe of clean Carharts. They were all in various stages of wear. My friend explained that these are a breed called “hipster”.
@@001variation You know what he was talking about, hipster. Come to the rural Midwest and see how many perfectly clean work clothes are worn uptown on Saturday night.
North Idahoan, and member of a bluegrass band- 🎵Cosmic Wagon- our banjo player has “town pants” he wears for gigs. He’s a 🌲lumberjack, and mills lumber
I'll embarrasingly admit I fell into this in my young adult days. But then one day I realized how pointless it was and I had gotten tired of being a phony jackass and being around other phony people. I dont care how cool you think you are, one day everyone will stop giving a shit about that and just be themselves. The older you get, the easier it is to shamelessly be a dork 😂
the "phony jackass" and "phony people" sums the hipster movement to a tee. I had a similar experience as yours, I just....felt so fake. I thought some of their clothes were kinda cool, and heck, they loved good coffee! But the more I listened to some of these people, the more I thought "They are so fake, and I am fake for trying to be like them" For the short time I "tried" (if I can even say that) being a hipster, it was exhausting, trying to be "cool" with all the fads that were always changing. The biggest thing was the smugness...They all thought they were better, smarter, and cooler than you, because they were listening, drinking, or doing the thing nobody else knew about
The market commodifies most fashion subcultures. What you end up with is Mainstream Goth, or Mainstream Hipster, or Mainstream Hippie, etc. Then the young people think it's boring AF and they create something else. Rinse, wash, repeat repeat repeat. When you can figure out what 16-21 year old middle-class people will be wearing into their mid-twenties, then you've cracked fashion.
Yup, then after a certain period of time (usually about 20 years), after the mainstream trend had fallen out of favor, it goes from being dated, to being retro. The old trend then reemerges in a new form, all to again become a cliche that the following generation mocks and despises.
I think the love of things vintage plays in part with the feeling of nostalgia. As much as modern technology and conveniences are nice but the idea of enjoying something vintage or hand made is enjoyable in itself. I remember when modern hipster started to show up late 90s early 2000s it was Starbucks and then to smaller local coffee shops as an example. Same with music. Digital downloads and streaming was convenient but the vinyl record sales had a large boom and actually surpassed CDs somewhere post 2010. I wouldn't be surprised CD sales boom when Gen Z kids are bring back 90s and early 2000s style. Nostalgia is a drug.
@@I_like_turtles_67 yeah nothing wrong with that either! I actually see more roller blading coming along again. I say if you like something you just like something regardless if hipsters hijack it or not haha
@@es68951 oh yeah I love that style of music but you know as someone said.. what's weird about style.... It's modern but futuristic but also reminds people of the 1980s (but it doesn't really sound like from the 80s) Good point it hits this weird nostalgic nerve when you hear it!
in 1980s there was a resurgence of preppy look and 1950's Americana nostalgia. So, each era will have something appropriated from the past, and repackaged into a new lifestyle. Maybe in next generation, snail mails and telegram message will become popular again with youngsters tired of instant communications.
Im 38, definitely not a hipster. I know tattoos were around long before me but in my life I watched tattoos become mainstream and popular. I never understood all al my class mates that got tattoos because they thought that it made them different or stand out. Lol. Folks always jump on the anti-trend trend. Its a microcosm of the idiocy of the collective. Culture trends that is.
I'm old enough to remember when neck and face tatoo's were only for death row inmates and real life pirates. Now your average wallmart greeter has a 40 percent chance of neck and finger tatoos.
@@lisadolan689 The non conformists have coalesced into a bloc of conformists. Being conservative is now the rebel. I'm the only one in my friend group that doesn't have tattoos or some other piercing and so on.
Don't get my started on tattoos. I'm 37 myself and the last 10 years seeing all these plebs getting tattoos as if it's normal and beautiful has cemented my hate of group-think.
@@lordoptimus1979 Not really. Gen X were also referred to as the "MTV Generation" and "Slacker Generation", naturally not by themselves (because let's face it, no generation chooses how older people perceive them and it's always unflattering). The existence of the "Brat Pack" and what that entailed speaks for itself, too.
Guilty as charged 35 year old “hipster” here. Really into jazz music and defunct psychadelic rock and world music bands from the 90s, own an 80s Mercedes, enjoy woodworking, have a bitchin beard, and work at a tech startup. Politically relatively moderate left though, because being super left is mainstream. Watching this video (with a baby sleeping on my lap) makes me happy because it’s not a “scene”, it’s more of my vibe, and at my age it’s never gonna change.
how is being super left is mainstream? like people that think that not wanting to slaughter trans people is being super left and woke, my guy the left is communism, how is super communism mainstream are you nuts?
Bruno Sacco had such an amazing time at Mercedes! And the cars were built so stout and strong! What a marvelous decade from such an amazing institution!!
I always thought it was weird how they shamed traditional things and consumerism, but wore clothing inspired by decades past and bought a lot of fifties and sixties kitsch and drank overpriced beer.
Well you're missing an important part though: many of the businesses they supported they created themselves. So instead of buying from multinational coorporations they actually did put they money where their mouth was and created businesses doing fixed gear bikes, cofee, craft beer (which has become a huge business) and mens shaving products. The same can't be said about all subcultures.
Hey if there's one good thing the hipsters did it was foster an environment where craft beer exploded, I don't care so much for IPAs but I'll take that over bud light any day.
I grew up in the 80s and detested music from that decade. Fortunately I'm rediscovering it lately. Guess you just gotta wait until you're ready to accept something.
When I heard actual lumberjacks (not guys that dress like they're going to a fancy dress party as lumberjacks, but guys who cut down trees for a job) discussing the merits of various craft beers I was genuinely happy.
@@KarlSnarks The sleep of a laborer is sweet, whether they eat little or much, but as for the rich, their abundance permits them no sleep. (Ecclesiastes 5:12)
@@circleinforthecube5170why would you be irritated to be compared to a lumberjack? Oh, because you don’t have the muscles for manual labor? I understand, I’m sorry.
I once got asked if I was a hipster, I said no. Then I was told that was the most hipster response I could have given to that question. Couldn't argue with that I guess.
In the aughts, hipsters listened to indie. Then there were punks, crust punks, metalheads, goths, rivet heads, hippies/wooks, etc etc largely defined by the type of music they liked, except left activists for example, who were also a subculture. Hipsters were just one of the music sub cultures. Nowadays people kinda lump them together sometimes and call them all hipsters. So when you attribute things we have today to hipsters, it would be more accurate to attribute them to many subcultural elements.
Really well done piece! I will always have a soft-spot in my heart for the hipster culture. In fact, looking back, I believe I might've been one of the first hipsters. A proto-hipster if you will. (Which, ironically, is the most hipster thing ever to believe). Lived in San Francisco, shopped vintage, dressed like I was from the 1950's (bowling shirts, wingtip/ Oxford doc martins, fedora), always sported a mustache or goatee, sourced cutting-edge coffee shops and indie music stores, hung out in South of Market and Haight-Ashbury areas, listened to live jazz on weekends; and this was 1994-1997. What happened? Eventually I left my edgy, avant-garde video game job and became a broadcast executive. Hugo Boss and Armani suits replaced my quirky hipster attire. Suddenly I was clean shaven, and reluctantly removed my two earrings. It would be cliché to say I became the very thing I despised, but life moves on. The universe tends to unfold as it should. The 30's happened, then my 40's. I got married and had a kid. Now I'm neither hipster nor corporate slickster. I'm just a dad, with all the "dad-bod" cliches personified: a wife, a kid, a mortgage, and two miniature dachshunds Dilly and Dally. Life is a series of stages; we grow up step by step. But I was never as cool as my mid-20's, when I was a Beck-loving, video game making, SF based hipster.
I just asked my wife, "when did we last see a hipster?" and then she said, "when did we last go into a coffee shop? Before COVID, right?" And that was it. That was the last time we saw any other people. Are there any more survivors?
I was called a hipster once in 2015, i automatically said I’m definitely not a hipster, then got back to building a cafe racer Honda cb400T… I still buy clothes from second hand shops though cause recycling clothes that have lasted long enough to make it to the second hand shop just makes sense😂
I couldn't ever be a hipster. Having thick Jamaican sprinter legs, so I could never wear skinny jeans. Also I hate IPAs and most craft beers. Never understood the attraction of them.
@@danielebowman I can enthusiastically say that i am a fan of IPA’s. I prefer them over wheat, ale, pilsner, etc. Imperial Stouts are another that have become more popular and associated with this period. It’s actually my favorite beer.
Nothing wrong with either. I like a lot that would be considered hipster in its day, though do feel obliged to defend myself against the term. Gatekeeping anti-hipsters are/were as bad as hipsters, really.
I had a Honda CB400-4 cafe in San Francisco in the early 2000’s. I was about as far away from being a hipster as humanly possible then, but got “honorary hipster membership” at certain bars for riding it. Damn, I miss that screamer of a bike. Good luck on the T.
@@invade81 To me no video has really touched on the strangeness of the “hipster movement” because it’s more like an accidental combination of things compared to actual counterculture movements like punk. Even stranger and more interesting is the anti-hipster cultural phenomenon. I came back to the states from Germany in ‘11 and by ~’12 it was just this huge outrage. I myself was pegged on many of the points and didn’t even realize that these people who I thought had generally interesting/cool thrifty style, resourcefulness in general, were into jazz (aka arguably the greatest American art form), grassroots stuff like organic food and craft beer, environmental interests…etc…a bunch of actually positive and practical stuff(?!) was supposed to be so contestable. The most immediate reason for this that comes to mind is the air of self-righteousness becoming associated with it…and to call it that would lend merit to associated points so to dismiss all of it in a sweeping fashion they treat it like a goofy fast fashion, exploiting all the superficial aspects. It’s crazy!!!
Bo Diddley's very first band in the early 40's with Jerome Green was called "The Hipsters". (But then he sold out, learned how to play real good, helped invent Rock and Roll, the Bo Diddley beat an all that)
I'm 48. I really liked the Indy bands in the 90s and the new Indy bands I find on Pandora and Spotify. I really liked the minimalist style of the Indy scene in the 90s. It seemed like a cool t shirt, jeans, some chucks or vans filled out the style for that scene. I think it still does. I really like the music. I just don't pay attention to all the other things that define a hipster.
When i was younger my mom ran programs for my city's library system for a few years and because of that i could get books from the book intake in the basement before they got processed for the library. I had a copy of that Norman Mailer book didn't realize how rare a physical copy of it was. Very interesting read
What a perfect statement "You come to realize that what you hate isn't a defining character trait." 100% true. I realized, growing up through much of this (exiting high school in 2014), that while I grew up loving older music, classic rock, disco, etc, I can still enjoy newer songs. Granted, I don't really listen to pop music on my own, but it's OK to be hanging with that certain group and enjoy riding along listening to rap. Sure, you aren't the biggest fan of rap, but it's the fact that you are all listening to it together and enjoying the moment that matters.
Another great video- I love the Nathan Barley references, too, apparently based on a little 'zine called "Hoxton Twat" which I once saw and regretably didn't get! I quite like creative counterculture, but when it gets too pretetious it becomes a parady of itself and not even in an ironic way.
I remember the first time someone told me they wouldn’t be going to a concert because the artist was too mainstream, it didn’t sit right and I didn’t understand until about a year later and then they were everywhere. If he’d said No because I don’t like his music, I could understand that.
I used to see these people in Brooklyn growing up. Took over the streets with their bikes and opened up some actually good coffee shops. Crazy how Brooklyn changed once they moved in but prices in rent increased I ended up moving west. What a time the late 2000s to early 2010s were with hipster culture.
I feel like the hipster thing was more than a just subculture. Pretty much everyone who was youngish, lived in a slightly urban area, and was middle class could pretty much be considered a hipster at one point. Hipsterism always had ill-defined parameters, and thus was a very big tent. It was quite an interesting cultural phenomenon in that sense.
@@AmandaabnamA I don't know, I know lots of black people who seemed to be hipsters, like my sister for example. She avoided mainstream rap and went around listening to sort of out of the way funk/ alternative black musicians, like The Internet, or Anderson paak before he got really popular.
I don’t think it was that vague. I went to the University of Georgia, majored in English and loved coffee and reading so I overlapped with hipsters but they were distinctly different. Much of the student body preferred partying and sports, and the rest were mostly like me, even my TAs, who wore casual clothes and preferred alcohol to smoking. I went on exactly one date with a man I later realized was a hipster, and remember thinking, “A. Why does he smoke so much and look like he thinks it’s cool? B. Why are his skinny jeans so small that I couldn’t fit into them? B. Why does he seem to take pleasure in discussing bands and books I’ve never heard of, and glance around after he says something remotely intelligent like it makes him special? C. Why does he talk practically in a whisper and find it hard to finish a thought, as though he expects me to finish his sentences? Why does he have such a scraggly beard?” 😂 I am a basic b*tch who would never be considered chill so... I gotta push back. They were a tiny group inside of a massive student body in the hipster-friendly town of Athens, GA.
As a former hipster, I have gotten quite into mainstream music lately because this is now the "weird different music" to me. Hipsters naturally cultivate a circle of people who gravitate to underground music, so I don't have many friends who listen to mainstream music. So in this context, normal becomes weird. I guess in this sense I am still a hipster, but just in a less- recognisable way.
I too am a hipster almost against my will. It is just a facet of my personality. I am so deeply immersed in layer upon layer of irony that I can't even tell where my ironic love of something begins and where authentic love ends. But maybe my irony is my authenticity. I guess it doesn't matter much anyway.
Hipsters turned out to be master consumers! they are at the barbershop and Starbucks all day with the matching Apple gear. But I must confessed I really love those 1800-1900 beards and mustaches that was awesome and made me feel we are back in WW1.
In mid 2000’s I dated a girl that was blatantly Hipster. One night we were planning a date and she told me she totally hated Hipster lounges. Yet everything she did was the epitome of Hipster… vegan, jazz music, coffee shops, yoga, pet gecko, art studios, feminist rallies, cat eyeglasses, and madly in love with her cat. But she claimed to hate “Hipster lounges.” 9:40
idk so many people call me that i am a hipster, but with out know what the heck is being a hipster, so i deny it every time that i am not a hipster, until one day tired of hearing this word again and again finally i decide to search this term on the internet then what i found was a description that suite the whole me then i look for the visuals yeah i am dress like them without notice it but i put so much effort to be like this
That’s what I don’t like about all the immense hate that hipsters get. Some people just naturally gravitate towards it. Not because they are trying to be nonconformists, but because that is who they are. But the mainstream will see that and just automatically hate them with no higher thought when they are actually being authentic to themselves. So sad really.
As someone who loves folk rock, it was very annoying having these guys invade our music for like 10 years 😂 every band suddenly had a banjo and a kick drum and now they're all just back to whatever crappy electro dance pop they were doing before.
People are forced to defend their style and they will say something negative. When they say something negative they are accused of being a result of reduction. It's that process itself that is reductive. I've never always not been a hipster - just because I dress how I like. I'm not making a statement, I'm following function with style. Whatever weird hangups you have about how I dress are on you. I'm not doing it to stand out, I'm doing it to go out..of my house, because I can't be naked.
hipster culture cannabalised itself when people started emulating nerd traits performatively,.with a heavy emphasis on irony as a decoy for an actual lack of intelligence or originality. the people who were first wave hipsters are in the 40s now, and a lot of them are normal people now. it was just a subculture that made sense at the time, to celebrate the nerdish and the awkward. it was never meant to be cool and elitist.
@@danorris5235 agreed, everyone I met thought they were in some secret club with a ‘you wouldn’t understand’ sign on top of their head, latent immaturity into their late 20’s early 30’s at least grunge culture tore down inauthentic values of consumerism, hipsters embraced it buying expensive racing bikes, sunglasses overpriced faux vintage clothes and 5 dollar Peruvian Eco-Not double shot Eco-Not Soy Lite Latte Expresso Chino Enemas to the sounds of post-irony Belle & Sebastian Dross, no wonder they are now neo-con war mongering Biden voters who don’t care about workers rights or health care, they are the managerial lap top class double 🤮 🤮vomit.
It was never a subculture tho. It was as mainstream whteness as mainstream whteness gets: empty and misplaced pseudocultural superiority in full bloom.
I'm 30 so I guess I should have been a hipster when I was younger but it was always waaayy too middle class for me, I never understood the obsession with expensive bikes, coffee, vintage stores and everything. Especially because the gentrified hipster culture and all the neighbourhoods from Williamsburg to Melbourne to Estonia to London are exactly the same, all the bars, coffee shops, graffitis and stores too. I dont know whats the point of local small businesses if they are the same than every other hipster business everywhere else in the world :'D I would have enjoyed the hipster culture more if it was more affordable and more local and unique.
What should be unique if it’s truly local? The design? Are you referring mostly to aesthetics? Edit: like “all these bars, shops, etc. have the hipster look”…?
Very interesting video, thank you! I read a few comments and they seem to converge towards a notion I happen to share myself: in every society, at anytime, there is a vanguard, socially forward group of people (generally young) that don't feel happy with the mainstream ideas, tastes and way of life, and rebel against it (it has a lot to do with generation gap, but not only), but it's not only about rejection: at the same time they create and event new things, they come up with innovative ideas, new life styles, new forms of art, etc. And eventually these ideas SPREAD through the rest of society and become the new mainstream. This phenomenon, of course, has happened much more frequently since the end of the 19th century, as society started changing much faster than anytime before in history. So, it's not really about the DEATH of the hipsters, it's the exact opposite: the acceptance and expansion of hipster concepts that reached such a scope as to become mainstream, and no longer a niche culture. To buy clothes in thrift shops, eat organic and/or locally grown and vegetarian / vegan food, favor small independent businesses, smaller houses, self-made / refurbished furniture, prefer public transportation and bicycles, reject money-driven pop culture and trends that big corporations try to impose on society, all these traits are inherently good and have made their way to mainstream culture, which is the ultimate recognition of this set of values once labeled "hipster culture". One could say the same about the feminization of society, traits of gay culture becoming mainstream, traits of black culture becoming mainstream, traits of nerd culture becoming mainstream, and overall the rejection of one unique social model going hand in hand with the promotion of diversity.
I never tried to be a hipster. It sort of happened to me. I lived in southern California in a very rural community. So I always wore jeans and pleated shirts. Easy, cheap, comfortable and lasts. Since the 1990s as a child actually. I also have bad eye sight and prefer regular square glasses. All the sudden in my mid 20s everyone started to dress like me, then they stopped a few years back. I buy stuff from thrift shops because it’s cheap and it’s like treasure hunting. I kept all my retro gaming consoles because I enjoy playing my old games in their original hardware. Kept all my VHS for the same reasons. I wasn’t trying to follow trends. I just like practical stuff. I didn’t even realize a was a hipster until an ex girlfriend pointed it out. I guess I’m a proto-hipster 😅
Hah, only the ultimate hipster could find a way to say "I was a hipster before hipsters." Only joking, I was that weirdo in a small town, too. People were so far off over there that the closest association any of them could make to what I was, was pre-hippy beat culture. They likened me to a beatnik. To me, the things I liked were just 'normal.' I was just kind of carving into whatever interested me, or just made good sense to do from my perspective. My favorite part was later being accused of being a poser by actual hipsters. Terrence Mackenna was right when he said "Culture's not your friend." There was a point in time when I had to start avoiding people who looked and dressed like me, because suddenly there were all of these expectations attached to me that I never asked for, like suddenly I gotta measure up to someone else's ideas about things I've been into for years. I'm kinda just like "Oh, you thought I got bullied in school by people just like you over these same things that you now find cool for looksies?" I found it silly that people cared so much about the things considered part of the aesthetic. I think it's silly to care what common denominator crowds think about anything that matters to you as an individual, love it or hate it, hence why I put up with the bullying and didn't change. To be totally honest, I think a lot of the hipster crowed WERE actually people who liked those things, and that just got overshadowed by trends at the time. More of a media image than an actual thing. I'm not convinced any of the stereotypes ever fully existed to begin with. People just saw it in media, looked out at the world, and projected it onto people. Once something becomes an aesthetic, it's a given that any people remotely fitting the mold will be judged both positively and negatively. Geez, maybe I am a hipster. It seems like every time something I like gets popular, it stops being for me - like, socially speaking it stops being worth putting out there, even if I'll still enjoy it on my own time. The latest casualties for me are anime and video game fandoms. I can't deal with those people and all of the expectations in terms of what takes fly, what people are getting into. They've kinda made it clear they don't want me. I've literally seen over 1000 anime shows and movies, nerd out heavy on all eras of gaming. But you won't catch me dead in those crowds... unless they decide to kill me in disapproval of how I consume and process entertainment themselves. But that's not because I care THAT much about what people like or think of what I like, but because when all of these people get into that thing, they turn around and try to tell ME I'm somehow doing it wrong, when I was perfectly happy to be in my lane with my own interests and passions from the jump - people will move on and I'm still gonna be liking the same things. It gets tiresome, it got to a point where I dead snubbed people coming at me like that - I didn't feel like explaining/justifying my own personal enjoyment to people it doesn't benefit (i.e. people who are not me.) After enough people try to bring it to you over trivial superficiality, you do eventually start to see knowing those people as worthless. What sane person would take that seriously? Right? There's nothing you can say or do that can possibly satisfy someone who typecasts people like that. It was a huge relief to me when people moved on and stopped caring if someone looked like a hipster or not. Saves me a lot of meaningless arguments when I'm out trying to have a good time and connect with other people. I can share those things with people and they just appreciate the person that I am. Sometimes I think I enjoy talking with people who don't know anything about what I like, than the biggest super-fan of my favorite thing.
I have never been one that really got into following the crowd per se; the '80s yuppie years, and then the hipster movement. It was always entertaining for me to watch them fall into their version of consumerism and never think about it.
There have been hipsters at least since the early 1900s. At times they go by the term hipster, at other times they go by other names. But there likely always has been and always will be a sub-set of humanity that chooses to live outside the mainstream, that values creativity, small community and reflects some traditions while embracing others. This isn’t the death of the hipster. It’s the end of the last cycle of hipsters.
Hopefully the new round isn’t condescending and doesn’t make it their whole identity around mocking 90% of reality. I’ve been a barista myself and have never understood why artisan coffee shops seem to take pleasure in making people who don’t know everything they do feel like sh*t, rather than actually try to serve the customer in a kind way, which I suppose they think isn’t cool.
@@abbyabroad i've been a client and i've never experienced that. On the contrary people seemed passionate about what they were doing and hell bent about making a living out of it rather than finding some office job.
There were a couple of other dynamics of exhaustion: 1. Taking old things from more and more recent times (60s and 70s to 80s and 90s) until they eventually ended up at the present. 2. The core hipster aim, which was *authenticity*. Taking things that *symbolised* authenticity (beards, working class clothing etc.), but by using those things turning them into symbols only of being a hipster. Thus the time difference and the authenticity difference both collapsed and left them just as people from the 2010s.
Here are a couple of similar trends that predated the modern hipsters. In the 80's you had the slackers (watch David Linklater's first movie Slackers - one of my faves). During that less economically deprived era, it was easier to either be a college student for as long as you liked, or you could move to a big city, and live for cheap (or even very cheap) in undesirable or industrial areas of town. These were the people who pioneered loft dwelling before lofts became a symbol of wealth and gentrification. Also, in 2000, David Brooks wrote the book "Bobos in Paradise." Bobo is short for Bourgeoisie Bohemian. You can tell it's a great book, because it skewers all kinds of people and they all hate the book. Anyway, the book helped me understand why the frat boys wouldn't keep to themselves, and instead saw fit to come into the independent coffee shop where I hung out. In a nutshell, the thesis of the book is that people wanted to make money like a capitalist, but pursue the perogatives of bohemians, who value experiences over physical possessions.
Bobo's is the name for people who really are bourgeois but want to look like they're marco polo and have travelled the world (mostly for business). I know of people who teached at the american school in katmandu and had all their furniture imported from nepal to their home.
I lived through the 80s punk movement. Similar start with truly unique fringe people - then pretty soon everyone was adopting the look and attitude and hanging out in sh"tty clubs listening to sh*ttier music.
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Jimmy you should do a video on the rise of scuba diving
Dude I think I love you for including that clip from Nathan Barley!!!
Oooo
I have an idea how about you go back to park our videos
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What about a video on the acceptance and rise of nerd culture? It used to be something people were ashamed about and bullied for, but now it's like in vogue.
Absolutely
Nah fuck nerds
Yes please!
Still a nerd
Yes
My biggest gripe with the Hipster subculture is that it takes something that is normally free or inexpensive and makes it really expensive and damn near unaffordable.😆
OML, spot on! For starters, they made a standard men's haircut cost an arm and a leg.
It was always the rich pretending to be poor to distance themselves from the rich while simultaneously treating the poor like shit in every way.
@finnessco Fair enough. But in the case of men’s haircuts, haircuts was a standard thing the vast majority of men were getting in pre-hipster times. The prices for a haircut in barbershops in the pre-hipster times were reasonable. Then enter the hipsters and they started making barbershops into something exclusive/vintage…and pricey $$$. And btw, I believe they really exaggerated with the “vintage” because it’s not as if barbershops existed only in the 20s/30s. They have always been around, together with that red white and blue moving cylinder on the outside of the barbershop.
@@TheConcertmasteryup they'd charge like 40 bucks for a very basic men's haircut that takes around 10-15 minutes and was no better than what you'd get at supercuts for like 15 bucks, and if you went to a place like supercuts theyd think it was lame or whatever. Kindve like drinking regular old coffee was lame.
Just find other cheap things, that's the whole point. Reject fads and find your own shit. Dirt is currently very cheap these days.
In my mid 20's, I went to a job interview in Tucson. Afterwards, still in my suit, I went to a street fair, where I met a very cute Goth girl, who took me to a Goth club. So there I was, dancing in a business suit in a club full of non-conformists who were all dressed alike, and really standing out, getting all the attention. It was all very meta. I had a very similar experience fifteen years later in a Portland cafe.
But were you dressed as a goth in the Portland cafe? Because that would be too perfect...
fuck, i wish that had been me
All non-conformists who were dressed alike
I went to my first foam party in Tucson, I was a soldier at the time, and so were everyone I went with, lol. total oddballs.
I had a similar experience about a decade ago. I let my beard grow because it kept my face warm at the type of job I worked. But I am also lazy and just let it grow without keeping it neatly trimmed. So one night I wake up to a party being thrown by my roommates at the time. I walked into the kitchen and immediately some guy, a hipster ironically, was like "who is the guy with the hipster beard?" One of my roommates just laughed and informed the guy that I was about as far from hipster that one could be. I jokingly said "those are fighting words", but I never really had a problem with hipsters.
I'm grateful to hipsters for bringing about the rebirth of vinyl records and Polaroid/Fujifilm cameras. In an age where everything is turning into a digital subscription, it's nice to have your music and memories in physical form.
This is pretty dang true. I hate the hipster mother ship that is Apple but you make a good point.
From the rise of modern Hardcore scene, post Hardcore music, into actual emo, not poser scene screamO kids,, Records returned at shows.. then Cassette etc.. now I even own rare CDs haha it's about music.. find it..
but on the music making side, vintage analog Synths(like the Mini Moog) also became very trendy for the hipster types who really weren't musicians and pushed prices up for the vintage market which made things very expensive for the rest of us.
Lol. Or you could have just continued to buy your medial like a large portion of the population and not even noticed...
They didnt bring vinyl back. They made it more expensive.
"I don't consider myself a hipster", He says as his bow tie lightly ruffles in the wind
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Read this with zach galifinakis voice and body on a distant appalacian mountain...what comedy!
That was the highlight of this vid lolol
You forgot that the Beatniks of the 50's and 60's ideas and culture are definitely part of what evolved into the modern Hipster culture as well. That stuff started gaining traction in the 90's when the first coffee stores started opening a long side book stores like Boarders and people were using manic panic to dye their hair blue.
Exactly, I was expecting to see that mentioned too.
The video literally started with that
@@olafurhold-gus7125 it started with the 40s and jazz, not mentioning the beatniks which came next.
The beatniks became the hippies. Allen Ginsberg and hung out with the Merry Pranksters and Neal Cassady drove the bus. But yeah a little odd to skip over that movement.
@@olafurhold-gus7125 it literally started with 1940’s and then skipped over the 50’s and 60’s era beatniks which is an important historical aspect of the hipster.
I remember an animated short where a guy said he used to invent band names when talking to hipsters, because they seemed to compete on who listened the most obscure groups, and when they couldn't find the band he just made up he would just say: "of course you can't find them, they are totally under the radar", therefore "wining" the conpetition
Do you know Roadblock by Pete Waterman as in Stock Aitken and Waterman… they produced super mainstream pop.
In 1987 they released an original track they wrote called: ‘Road Block’ anonymously… and started a rumor it was a cover or reissue (can’t remember which) of a ‘rare groove’ old track.
More than one DJ said they had the original… many said they remembered the original.
Once it was massive in the UK underground party scene they said they made it.
How about that one band that doesn’t have a name? So underground they are practically in Hell
@@nathanielreichert4638 😂💀😂
I see what you did there... the CON petition
Yall dont know wtf hipster is. Has nothing to do with music.
The counter-culture snobbery gets re-branded every generation.
nonce
Dunno, but hipsters seem more like a low-rent version of 'Yuppies', always 'virtue signaling' by whatever they _consume..._ aka, gourmet coffee, craft beer, artisanal cheese, whatever, and of course the inevitable music/movies/art... _"That you've probably never heard of before"._ ;-p
@@LowenKM
touch grass
@@LowenKM At least yuppies had made peace with loving consumerism, and didn't pretend to hate the very thing they were.
Nailed it.
It is problematic when your personality is formed around your dislikes instead of your likes. The real hipsters are those who’s identity is formed around their likes, regardless of how niche or mainstream those likes are, to the point that they uniquely stand out because of it.
And that just might be the most basic hipster thing I’ve ever said. 😂 This one’s a banger Jimmy. Keep it up! 💥
Your comment is actually very insightful because it isn't
Well that just sounds like someone who's emotionally mature and secure in who they are as a person
Your definition of a real hipster sounds like my definition of a teenager
@@ianybanez6884 What part of having an identity strikes you as being only for teenagers?
@@dat_boii The simple idea of focusing on your identity seems trivial when it comes to survival on earth. I assume if you're privileged enough you have time to worry about such things.
My hipster friend burned his tongue very badly once. He drank his coffee before it was cool.
What a modern dad joke
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👌☕️ well played
i see what you did there
Hilarious
Don’t forget that between Harry the Hipster and the Hippies, there were the Beatniks. They’re huge in the hipster history.
The beatniks and the Mods are basically the first hipsters. It’s about enjoying culture that`s « hand made». Mass production and the perfectionism and lack of « analog feeling», creates a identity anxiety. It’s also a form of fetisjism of urban middle class mixed with bohemian taste.
It’s also a « escapeism» from once own class, rase, gender, nationality. Obsession with Jazz ( the beatniks), and italian design ( the mods), is still a vital part of hipster culture
@@Ikaros23 there are/were so many subcultures. I used to be goth, then industrial, my friends were metalists (not sure if this is the correct term in English), there were also emo's, cyber goths, skinheads, punks and everything in between. We were growing up with a distaste of the current world, all of the expressions were an example how much we don't give a fuck. Then we grew up, earned some money and became jaded and sometimes even cynical. Considering the background feeling of despair and possible worldwide war, I think we are in turn for turbulent times ahead. Good times, weak men do that. But hey, it will make us better in the long term. At least that's what I believe. You have a good day now.
You're right. There were beatniks which led to nogoodniks, in turn came badenoff and fatale.
I think it came from 1920s europe
In my art school days, preppy was still cool, not being part of the drug. Drop out culture the media scandilizied the subculture effectively. Thereby destroying it.
Preppy meant academia which meant being able too read things like consumer reports magazine.
sorry I studied industrial design as a drop in. Corporate is nothing too be proud of.
"Everybody in this room is wearing a uniform. Don't kid yourself". Frank Zappa
Long before any modern hipster was ever born lol.
yeah but noone has any discipline.
amen
Sure but at least it's a uniform where you can explore a bit, instead of a mandated one. Freedom of choice, that's the difference.
Hipsters will always have a soft spot in my heart. It represents a specific time before things got definitively mean spirited and angry. I think the pandemic was the final nail for that time. As cringe as the 2010's hipster culture was with the jangly twee music and fun ironic vibe, it feels like a lighter time. Times I spent in dimly lit bars with Edison lights and rough hewn wood with people who weren't interested in being aggressive or proving their insecurity. I look back on it positively.
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They were actually some the most ignorant and cruel people I've ever met.
@@richardspillers6282........I agree, ....they were totally elitist in attitude. ......an the conformity is the other thing.
@@richardspillers6282 Definitely what led to the woke cancel culture we are in today
I feel the same because I lived through it. Although I was in a different counter culture niche, there were a lot of overlaps w hipster-dome.
The problem is the hipsters all graduated college and became the corporate boardroom culture and turned the culture into the very mean spirited, spiteful, woke cancel culture.
Basically Trump made everyone go insane.
The most funny ironic moment was when a hipster tried to sue a magazine for using his photo in an article about how all these 'individualists' looked exactly alike.
Only for the photo to turn out to be of someone else.
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LMFAO!
That hipster's name? Albert Einstein.
A "hipster" is any kind of "bourgeois bohemian" across the ages, and take many forms. Usually middle-class or well-off urbanites who fetishize culture from the working class, rural people, ethnic minorities, past eras, or far-away countries they consider "exotic".
Nailed it
Yeah it's weird how this video proclaims we didn't hear from hipsters after the 40s until the 00s.
@@flower5185 I thought the 1950s "beatnicks" were the first modern hipsters but no doubt there was much earlier examples, as they're typical of urban life.
@@flower5185 Do you remember a whole lot of them in, say, the 1980's?
They love "Communism and yoga classes with... (yup) Goats!" ha-ha-ha got me rolling. :D :D
Ya, communism, yet they love their iPhone. bahaha
What really happened with hipsters is that it went mainstream and fell out of fashion and the OG hipsters are still quietly going about being hipsters utterly thrilled to be forgotten again.
Good observation
Yep. Now they all have their hair dyed and wear chain necklaces and dangly cross earrings 😂
Looking for the next nonconformist fad to come along, so they can hop on, make it mainstream, then despise it. Whatever floats your boat!
Same happened with Geek Chic. Everyone will have a spotlight on them at some point just so someone can market it as cool fashion. It used to be a 20 years cycle but I believe it has accelerated recently.
yep. i live in what can be described as a hipster city, and...yeah, they're still hipsters.
When the girl in the elevator said she loves the Smiths. The look he had when she left was not lovestruck, it was him realizing he needs to find another band to listen to.
Great movie
@@luisfernandes2522 I haven't seen it. I'm just guessing that is how it works when two hipsters wind up liking the same band.
I couldn't listen to The Smiths after about 2005 or so... sad.
Left him with a thorn in his side
@@TanukiDigital Same here and I remember all their record releases back in the day. The hipsters ruined it.
There was a dude who lived in my old apartment complex who look like he walked out of 1940s Ireland or something. Bushy red beard Newsboy cap suspenders, dungarees pants, wool button up shirt, work boots and the horn-rimmed glasses. Cat was insufferable. I nicknamed him Craft Brew.
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Thats so cool man. Awesome you analyzed him to a T, and judged him for his clothes. YOU CORNY DOUCHE . LMAO
Lol
Plot twist: He only drank spirits from craft distilleries. That, and PBR 🍺
I liked craft beer before the hipsters ruined it
Believe me, we had hipsters in the 80s and 90s. The girls all with the same Bette Paige hairdo, boys wearing Buddy Holly glasses, everyone in vintage clothing sitting around in cafes talking about their Deep Philosophy about life
You seem to be describing rockabilly/beatnik, which hipsters are not. Hipsters have a more teddy roosevelt meets lumberjack/butcher meets obscure niche arthouse film fan meets organic farmer's market stall owner vibe to them.
Guilty as charged! I was a girl with Buddy Holly glasses. It all seems so silly in hindsight.
Lol rockabilly
@@redfullmoon or Ska
Yes! I experienced the obnoxious hipster in 1996-2000 in Austin TX. I think this trend started in the universities. Austin had a lot of obscure bands.It was the “[Crappy] music capital of the world.” All conversations were political that swayed heavily toward the left and and they stank like hell and all of them looked and thought the same. I was so glad to leave there.
1) it was always very consumerist, unlike most previous subcultures (and very into its design aesthetics)
2) vinyl vinyl vinyl
3) beards - finally died - and tattoos - now even your gran has them. You can't be identified by your piercings, bad tattoos and beards if everyone has them. But at one point, 99.9% of men under about 55 had a beard, so the hipster deserves full marks for taking over the world, briefly
I loved this video, i watched it out of nostalgia for the pre-pandemic world and it fully delivered. I think your point about 'retro' is the core of it. I think it grew out of the 30s 40s 50s etc "scenes" meeting the internet, growing, and merging into this huge popularity. Or thrift shops took off once the internet made it possible for the obscure to meet the one person who would want to buy it and it became financially viable to sell it
You're so right about Hipster becoming mainstream culture. Using Instagram was considered hipster and now it's the biggest social app. I also remember being called hipster by some friends for wearing loud print shirts, vintage sportswear, going to festivals and raving and stuff but that quite soon became what literally every young person did. Shoreditch is now a night out for office workers and street food markets are run by multi-million pound firms.
yes because everyone is a follower and became a hipster. its pretty simple. as i said earlier, if you have more then one social media app on your phone, youre probably a hipster.
the irony of the situation is the hipsters outnumber the non hipsters. so all the hipsters are going to agree and upvote you while downvoting me for accusing them precisely of what they are, followers.
In Montreal, I first spotted the hipster in the Mile End area. It started with people showing up at bars to read books. Then I noticed a lot of people dressing weird but similar. I even thought to myself, "Is looking homeless trendy?"
Where else would they be spotted but the mile end… soon the boutique thrift shops started popping up, and everyone got more expensive at renaissance
@@Clamclam3400 The Plateau also had a ton of hipsters but Mile End was definitely ground zero. The hipster sub culture is still going strong there
Hipster or homeless? Is one of my favorite games to play.
Look up the song hipster or homeless, it talks about such things, I think it's by the rubber bandits.
The grunge movement suffered from the same issue 🤣
There’s a lot you’re missing that is really important. You’re not mentioning the 80s and 90s independent college rock music culture. There was so much going on in the 90s that was purely artists/djs that continued that mentality of appreciating other than pop music quality. Let’s not forget art culture from that time as well. The hipster from the 2000s was also influenced by skateboarding culture and “emo” fashion. All that 2000s stuff was pure keeping up with trends and an amalgamation of everything before that time, but very much focused on 80s subculture.
Beck was the first person that came to mind for the 90s
Actually the 90 's where the start of the downsloape . If you look carefully you will see that rock & co culture where establshed in the 70--s and have had a culminating point in the 90 -s with all the huge icons of that time ( Depeche Mode, David Bowie , Prince , Queen , soooooo ...much ..Chicago , AC/DC ...the list is huge ) . No equivalent of those came in the 90 s . Less in 2000 or now . Fact .
@@cooltrades7469 Omg, you sound like a fudd. "Back in my day, when the music was good.." Good and bad music has always been with us, in every decade. And always will be.
Well, the foundation for GenX was Punk and New Wave, so the variants tended to go back to a demand for authenticity and rebellion.
Yeah the underground counter culture, yet somewhat commercial artists/bands like Beck, Björk, Aphex Twin, Moby, Boards of Canada were all starting in the 90:s.
Hipsterism never dies, it just submits to new trends. Cab Calloway's hepsters become beats and mods and hippies and punk rockers and skinny pants/ties and emo/goths and grunge mosh-pitters in tattered leggings and flannel shirts... The only constant is the thrift store shopping. Even the word "hipster" seems like it is always accompanied by quotation marks...
Exactly there's plenty of hipsters still they just evolved into that mac demarco period of hipsterism lmao
@@joshuafult84 I'd say there is an underlying theme of the hipster being snobby and obtuse in whatever subculture there're in. For instance the woke crowd is snobby on knowing more about morals than everyone else when clearly they have no idea lol.
@@DEadSpaCE211 bro couldn't make a two sentence comment without shoehorning in some conservative viewpoint
I would say a good analysis now would be “how everyone became a hipster” as there doesn’t seem to be a word for hipster for this young generation but when I go past a college all the hipster trends seem in the mainstream.
I think it is because of the internet. You no longer have to search record shops for old music or go to gigs to find the new band, you can just go online, you don’t need to search thrift shops for cool clothes, you can just click online and next day it arrives, similar with movies, books, finding the best club nights etc
@@johneeeemarry34 many of those cultures were described as smug, it’s a folly of youth and will never go away.
The glasses thing really irritated me because those of us who actually need them found the prices skyrocketed, and it was already expensive at that point.
Annoying, totally agree
It annoys me because growing up you got bullied for big glasses and called urkel now big glasses are trendy and in stlye
The worst part was being automatically labeled a hipster lmaooo
@@s_u_l_f_u_r right I’m jus blind
Naw. That was Luxottica. Glasses have always been trendy, only styles change. Remember cat eye glasses from the 50’s-60’s. Tiny glasses from the 90’s, ect. I buy mine from zenni and other non luxottica brands. Much more affordable.
How do I know I'm not a hipster? Because I actually like liking the things I like.
And actually not disliking things because everyone else seems to like it. 🙃
I dress normal and dont try to push my favorite stuff on other people
@@EzeICE No, we dislike things because everyone else seems to like them falsley, or be pretending to like something for the image. then suddenly that thing becomes hard to like because so many phony people pretend to like it. I cant enjoy wearing a black and red flannel alone at my cabin in the woods because i feel like i match a phony hipster.
@@worsethanhitlerpt.2539 You called the way you dress "Normal" and then in the same sentence you said that you don't push the things you like (The way you dress for instance) on to other people. I'd say lumping the way you dress into the "Normal" category (As opposed to people who dress "Abnormally"?) is kind of a way of pushing what you like onto other people.
@@SeanMatheson-n3x Dress normal and listen only to BAUHAUS !!!!!!!
Hipsters were about the only youth craze that older people don't cross the road to avoid and younger people were not intimidated by .
strange considering their penchant for straight razors and axes, LOL>
We cross the road not out of intimidation, but out of disgust.
Nothing wrong with that
They are equally made fun of by everyone!
That’s a good thing
The best commentary on the origins of the modern hipster is undoubtedly Nathan Barley. Essential watching.
I never understood the whole hipster thing at the time, maybe it's because they were still contained in Hoxton!
Nathan Barley! I haven't thought about that for years, Jesus Christ!
I was definitely a hipster as a teenager but i grew out of the pretentiousness and kept the love of underground music. It went from “oh you wouldn’t know them” to “oh dude lemme show you these guys!”, it felt much better to share bands not many people have heard of and even better to see those bands succeed
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if you have 2 or more social media apps on your phone, you are a hipster.
@@Tiredgeek precisely my point
@@Suesco So everyone and no-one by admission is a hipster.
are you a guy? you look like one in your profile picture
As a late stage gen Xer, my bitch about the hipster was their adoption of stuff some people have always liked (the Smiths, Steely Dan, flannel, beer, coffee) and thinking they discovered something, even though you've been enjoying it since childhood. That know-it-all attitude and makes them so annoying.
Exactly. I was watching French New Wave films *long* before any of those emo lumberjacks first showed up in Bushwick.
What annoyed me was "I like this thing *ironically*." WTH does that even mean? Like darlin' I grew up listening to Journey because they were my parents' favorite band, and so I like them too, but suddenly someone 10 years younger than me discovers them but can't admit they like them for real so they claim it's "ironic"? Are you Alanis Morisette? Do you know what that word means?
@@PheOfTheFae Yeah the word irony effectively lost all its meaning like it did with the mid 90's youth culture. It's hard to be ironic on purpose, and you can't just completely exist in it. Eventually you will like things that you enjoy "ironically".
Retro video games, as if it's some kind of identity. Just enjoy what you enjoy.
sounds a lot like you guys are hipsters who "liked it before it was cool"
This video is incredibly on point but, as I've seen throughout my life, (born 1961) the phenomenon of a subset of young people rejecting that which is mainstream simply because it is popular and then losing the fight as they age and their counterculture is absorbed by the mainstream is a constant in every generation. Very well described by your analysis of hipster culture!
Ah the joys of getting older and watching the clockwork ebb and flow of trends.
@@augustcanyon3438 everything old becomes new again as each generation discovers how humans work.
Exactly. It's every generation.
Capitalism is really good at monetizing anti-capitalism and thereby pulling its teeth.
@@JamanWerSonst Brilliant! Well said!
I will always be a music snob, but not out loud. I just silently judge people way too hard about their music tastes and I know it lmao
Why do I see you everywhere, Q?
@@user-vi4xy1jw7e We must have very similar taste, which I must say yours is great. Also I'm just on the internet too much, lol.
"Nawce "!😂
Hipsters never die. Being a hipster is an attitude, not a specific look and it's been around as long as I remember. It's the snobbery of being too cool for mainstream and striving to be cooler than thou. Accompanied by sneering at anything they deem uncool, like owning a TV, or being employed by anything other than a Start Up.
I hate when disliking the mainstream is seen as a specific subculture rather than something thats always been there.
I disagree entirely. All it is, is dressing snazzy. Any negative attitudes solely rest on the individual themselves. I've met plenty of people who dress hipster who are fine. Most are. The idea of trying to be elitist exists in certain strongholds like certain neighborhoods of major cities
I hate how anyone with particular tastes is a "hipster snob". The reality is people just like what they like. Labeling someone as pretentious for having taste outside the mainstream is disingenuous. This whole video is a joke because the creator fundamentally doesn't understand "hipster culture" at all
I agree, this mindset is always around. In the 90s remember this was artsy crowd that wore black round sunglasses and french hats? I think they were protrayed perfectly in movie Uncle Buck.
@@marinablack181 that is so not true. There's many many people who like things they don't actually like but do so because they believe it makes them cool
I remember a hipster acquaintance saying how much hipsters annoyed him. I burst out laughing at the lack of self awareness.
It is stunning, isn't it?
Goths and punks were invented by God to beat up the emos, but punks and goths slowly died out and the emos become attention starved so they evolved into hipsters (elder emos) like pokemon. This only made things worse for them in the end since being whiney, privileged and desperate to fit in makes you hated no matter what little niche subculture you try to skitter into... also, being married with kids is not a subculture, its called selling out and we hate them more for it.
All hipsters dress the same, have the same haircut, the same type of ugly tattoos, use the same phones, etc. yet they all think they are original.
I remember demos doing the same back in 2008
Hipsters make me want to wear a plain white T shirt and bland dark pants and a baseball cap until I die
Beatniks were the pre-hipsters. They founded the counter-culture lifestyle that began in the 50's. Jack Kerouac, Allen Ginsberg, Ken Kesey. Beatniks like these artists popularized their lifestyle and ideals through art like On the Road, Howl, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, respectively.
Thank you!
Beatniks = 1950's thru the mid 1960's
Hippies = 1965 - 1976
Punk rockers = 1974 -1982?
New Wave = 1979 -1984
Alternative = 1985-1992
Hair Band = 1986-1991
Grungers =1991-1995
Goth = 1996- 2008
Emo = Unknown tbh
Skinny Jean Bearded Hipsters - 2012?
yup. subversive alcohol and drug addled queer atheists.
The term "Hippie" is actually a shortened version of "Hipster"
I had a bunch of friends who would sit around and be so critical of everyone who didn't have their exact values. I say "had" because I started to find them insufferable to be around so I'd attend fewer and fewer events. Most of them were privileged people who made it their mission to cast aspersions on anyone who didn't also have the luxury to stop/think about higher values. They celebrated inclusivity as long as those included believed the exact same things they did, wore the same clothes, had the came BO and attended the same yoga / meditation retreats.
Anti-fashion always becomes fashion. Movements become brand identity. The punk rock movement is a great example. Younger people tend to think they know how to solve their world's problems until they have a kid, get a mortgage or taste really good wine for the first time. When they understand how good something can be or feel the pressure of the reality we've put ourselves in, it's "to hell with the poor, I want a massaging seat and mood lighting in my crossover SUV." The boomers are a shining example of that drastic of a pivot.
I suppose I'm less interested in feeling like I'm doing something good and more interested in the actual paradox of being human. The fact that it seems like no matter what decision I make, theres a positive and negative vector of consequences to that decision. This is an interesting age to enter. We've always been propagandized but now the amount of opinions and "truths" and "information" is so thick, it's creating mental breakdowns. People are addicted to the stimulation, 3 year old children crying for their mother's smartphone. Will we rebel against it completely I wonder? I wonder if newspapers will have a resurgence?
Literally none of their Styles were New
I was a hipster in the late 90s. Long before people like me were called hipsters. Back then I was probably just considered an art kid. But I purposely hated everything main stream. As I grew up, I realized I actually liked some mainstream stuff like pop music. And by the time I was in my mid to late 20s, I liked whatever and I didn’t give a shit about liking mainstream stuff. I was a teen with a chip on my shoulder and my hipster hate for most things was a defense mechanism. I was a trip.
I remember the art kid or being artsy. That’s was all my brother’s side friends. Apart from our skater friends.
Did you listen to Morrisey?
the late 90's hipters were cool and were there before it was a super trend. Also keep in mind in the late 90's early 2000's everything mainstream was cringy and awfull for the most part including the music.
"Disliking things doesn't make you an interesting person"
is a very good way to put it.
Aside from that this is just a comment for the youtube algorithm. Keep up the good work.
I had my first encounter with hipsters in 2002 when I was working in a small office in San Francisco, but I didn't know they were hipsters at the time. I felt like I'd been dropped into a parallel universe.
Around 2010, the hipsters who priced out the local San Franciscans were themselves getting priced out by the new tech ppl. It was really funny to watch
@@anderivative And now SF is rich but culturally impoverished. Bit sad, really
As a fellow San Franciscan of the time, we were at ground zero of their detonation. Then I traveled to NYC and accidentally found myself at their other explosion point (Williamsburg).
Hipsters have been around since the early 90s.
@@joshuafult84 Good to know.
I really felt like hipsterish culture really started in the mid late 90s. As Gen X, I was in Hyde Park, Austin, 95-99 TX and it was basically this. Whole Foods in 95 was very crunchy. A lot of punk + hippy mix and saying, "right on...right on." We wore our parents' old clothes from the 70s and went to small town thrift shops to find pearl-button cowboy shirts, steel frame glasses, and 8-tracks for our 70s 8-track / turn table stereos we got from our folks. Also, girls with Betty Page punk bangs, skateboards, monster sideburns.
But... but... the world didn't begin until Millennials came along! /s
And for the music bands/Artists like Beck, Björk (extremely important marker for being into weird counterculture music made in a weird way by an icelandic musician), Aphex Twin, Moby (who was a vegetarian 90:s hipster embracing everything what became hipsterish) etc...
Love it! You nailed it!
Very interesting journey you just took me along back with you. I liked reading that. Thanks.
We used the word Hipster in the 90s. The word Hipster is kind of like Emo, where it started out meaning one thing, then got co-opted and turned into pejorative term. In the 90s, we used “hipster” to identify someone who had basic knowledge of the counter culture, underground music, and independent film. It had nothing to do with any specific clothing uniform. People from outside the culture invented the reductive stereotype “Hipster,” so naturally the word was abandon by all but those who sought to disparage bohemian culture.
👏 That this narrative yada-d the 90s was pretty surprising.
This comment deserves the top spot. This is the truth of it all wrapped up.
Every generation reinvents the English language to feel special. This generation is just like every other generation of Americans since WWII. They all think they're the most enlightened to ever exist, and everyone who came before them is somehow lame and ignorant. Again, like like every generation since WWII.
Yes! “Someone who had basic knowledge of the counter culture, underground music, and independent film” that’s the the perfect definition! I never considered it a particular style or uniform look.
The problem is, to me, that being what you described became a market in itself. It’s cool to forge your own path and find stuff you like, with websites like letterboxd. But to just be some guy who listens to public radio and watches movies from very popular “hipster” studios religiously (and only that) and fits into this little tiny mold in itself of what a “hipster” is, with thick frame glasses etc? It was revolutionary in the 90s, but it’s overdone nowadays.
Just one little thing - Polaroid wasn't really revived because of hipster demand, but because there was still demand from fans that used it all along. So few of these fans basically revinvented the whole Polaroid as there were no assets left from the old company. Then thanks to the popularity wave, they were able to buy the brand rights and expand the whole company.
Pretty cool story, if you ask me
Fans that used it all along? Sounds like hipsters to me! =)
@@ratzabur they used it even before it was cool! haha
There are a lot of little things. That's why videos like this suck. Whether the authors know it or not, their intention is just go generate money and service basic psychological function.
This video was not unique or insightful. And grossly inadequate as an informational. And it's now factual, it's opinion based
And because of hipsters.
Most of the digital optical sensor military contracts went to companies that make the best camera sensors. Japan.
As a hipster, nothing gave me more pleasure than explaining to my hipster friends that the fact that they denied being hipsters was the ultimate litmus test for recognizing a hipster.
My idiot-proof hipster test was to call someone out as a hipster. If he had a hissy fit, he was definetely a hipster.
We've all been there.
I told my friend i wasn't a hipster she told me you're litterally patient zero of hipsteria. In dictionnaries the word hipster will probably have your picture next to it.
Exactly. The was the biggest irony
Litmus?
Hipsters are losers that dress up like telly tubbies. No one respects them on purpose. Grunge, punk and emo on the other hand. 💯💯🤘🎸😎 Just be a slipknot maggot.
For me, the real tragedy of hipster culture is even though we rejected capitalism and consumerism, capitalism co-opted hipster culture and sold it back to us.
I'll never forget calling my very hipster brother a hipster to which he rebutted "I'm not a hipster, I'm post modern". 😂
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Hahaha
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Divine!
We were doing all this stuff in the 80s and 90s. Skinny jeans, retro 50s thrift shop clothes, obscure bands, obsessed with vinyl, the coffee, home brew, organic food etc. I even had a boyfriend with a fixed gear bicycle lol. But that was before the internet, so not many people could catch on. You had to be physically located someplace where there was a scene happening.
You are right about the internet. Now it is everywhere, all at once.
Very good point. A lot of regional trends that were popular in the ‘80s & early ‘90s in various parts of the country didn’t really take off until the Internet got ahold of ‘em. The Seattle music scene, instance.
This is something definitely worth mentioning, and I’m glad you said it.
The 90's were more loose-fitting jeans and 60's/70's nostalgia.
i think the authentic soul of true hipsterism is disavowing bourgeoise concerns, and going beyond everyday mundane materialism. Having more of an interest in simple pleasures and intellectual pursuits such as jazz, poetry, the arts, etc. Having an interest in spiritual pursuits such as yoga, philosophy and vegetarianism, growing your own food,
I definitely used to be the type of person that hated on shit just because it was popular when I was younger but now that I've gotten older I look back on it and realize how childish/silly it is to have that type of mentality. Unfortunately though some people never seem to grow out of this mindset no matter how older they get.
Is a hipster telling me that hipster subculture is dead?
My excitement when I heard "Got on a train from Cambridgeshire" was through the roof
That song will always be an absolute banger.
I play synth...
We all play synth
Don't be jealous just cause Mr. Richard Head had his name on the guestlist.
I remember going to to hear a bluegrass band and seeing all these guys in beards and perfectly clean Carharts.
It was so bizarre. I didn’t know anyone who had an entire wardrobe of clean Carharts. They were all in various stages of wear.
My friend explained that these are a breed called “hipster”.
oh NO someone wearing clean clothes? I'm going to have a mental break down, that's not right, they should be dirty, holy crap I'm literally shaking
@@001variation You know what he was talking about, hipster. Come to the rural Midwest and see how many perfectly clean work clothes are worn uptown on Saturday night.
North Idahoan, and member of a bluegrass band- 🎵Cosmic Wagon- our banjo player has “town pants” he wears for gigs. He’s a 🌲lumberjack, and mills lumber
@@001variationCarhartts are work clothes, made for hard work, and aren't particularly cheap, because they are very durable.
I'll embarrasingly admit I fell into this in my young adult days. But then one day I realized how pointless it was and I had gotten tired of being a phony jackass and being around other phony people. I dont care how cool you think you are, one day everyone will stop giving a shit about that and just be themselves. The older you get, the easier it is to shamelessly be a dork 😂
the "phony jackass" and "phony people" sums the hipster movement to a tee. I had a similar experience as yours, I just....felt so fake. I thought some of their clothes were kinda cool, and heck, they loved good coffee! But the more I listened to some of these people, the more I thought "They are so fake, and I am fake for trying to be like them"
For the short time I "tried" (if I can even say that) being a hipster, it was exhausting, trying to be "cool" with all the fads that were always changing.
The biggest thing was the smugness...They all thought they were better, smarter, and cooler than you, because they were listening, drinking, or doing the thing nobody else knew about
Yeah let's be dorksters
The market commodifies most fashion subcultures. What you end up with is Mainstream Goth, or Mainstream Hipster, or Mainstream Hippie, etc. Then the young people think it's boring AF and they create something else. Rinse, wash, repeat repeat repeat.
When you can figure out what 16-21 year old middle-class people will be wearing into their mid-twenties, then you've cracked fashion.
Yup, then after a certain period of time (usually about 20 years), after the mainstream trend had fallen out of favor, it goes from being dated, to being retro. The old trend then reemerges in a new form, all to again become a cliche that the following generation mocks and despises.
@@SeanMatheson-n3x Nothing new form
I think the love of things vintage plays in part with the feeling of nostalgia. As much as modern technology and conveniences are nice but the idea of enjoying something vintage or hand made is enjoyable in itself. I remember when modern hipster started to show up late 90s early 2000s it was Starbucks and then to smaller local coffee shops as an example. Same with music. Digital downloads and streaming was convenient but the vinyl record sales had a large boom and actually surpassed CDs somewhere post 2010. I wouldn't be surprised CD sales boom when Gen Z kids are bring back 90s and early 2000s style. Nostalgia is a drug.
I am rollerblading with my little daughter. I skated when I was a teen. Not looking for vintage skates though so I guess I'm not a hipster.
@@I_like_turtles_67 yeah nothing wrong with that either! I actually see more roller blading coming along again. I say if you like something you just like something regardless if hipsters hijack it or not haha
Vaporwave has basically ridden the nostalgia that people have for a time that many of them weren't even alive to remember 😄
@@es68951 oh yeah I love that style of music but you know as someone said.. what's weird about style.... It's modern but futuristic but also reminds people of the 1980s (but it doesn't really sound like from the 80s) Good point it hits this weird nostalgic nerve when you hear it!
in 1980s there was a resurgence of preppy look and 1950's Americana nostalgia. So, each era will have something appropriated from the past, and repackaged into a new lifestyle. Maybe in next generation, snail mails and telegram message will become popular again with youngsters tired of instant communications.
Im 38, definitely not a hipster. I know tattoos were around long before me but in my life I watched tattoos become mainstream and popular. I never understood all al my class mates that got tattoos because they thought that it made them different or stand out. Lol. Folks always jump on the anti-trend trend. Its a microcosm of the idiocy of the collective. Culture trends that is.
By time I’d given enough thought to what type of tattoo I wanted, I got over it.
So glad I did
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I'm old enough to remember when neck and face tatoo's were only for death row inmates and real life pirates. Now your average wallmart greeter has a 40 percent chance of neck and finger tatoos.
@@lisadolan689 The non conformists have coalesced into a bloc of conformists. Being conservative is now the rebel. I'm the only one in my friend group that doesn't have tattoos or some other piercing and so on.
Don't get my started on tattoos. I'm 37 myself and the last 10 years seeing all these plebs getting tattoos as if it's normal and beautiful has cemented my hate of group-think.
@@jeanjacqueslundi3502
what an ironically hipster thing to say
Being a GenXer I was fortunate to be part of a generation which was forgotten and alienated in our youth. Back then it was come as you are.
Gen X were labelless. Hipsters and current Gex Z want all the labels
@@lordoptimus1979 Not really. Gen X were also referred to as the "MTV Generation" and "Slacker Generation", naturally not by themselves (because let's face it, no generation chooses how older people perceive them and it's always unflattering). The existence of the "Brat Pack" and what that entailed speaks for itself, too.
@@madamebkrt, the 'Brat Pack' was a US phenomenon, during a decade when the UK led the way culturally.
Guilty as charged 35 year old “hipster” here. Really into jazz music and defunct psychadelic rock and world music bands from the 90s, own an 80s Mercedes, enjoy woodworking, have a bitchin beard, and work at a tech startup. Politically relatively moderate left though, because being super left is mainstream. Watching this video (with a baby sleeping on my lap) makes me happy because it’s not a “scene”, it’s more of my vibe, and at my age it’s never gonna change.
how is being super left is mainstream?
like people that think that not wanting to slaughter trans people is being super left and woke, my guy the left is communism, how is super communism mainstream are you nuts?
Bruno Sacco had such an amazing time at Mercedes! And the cars were built so stout and strong! What a marvelous decade from such an amazing institution!!
You guys were always a bunch of flat pack, tedious, overprivileged closet centrists. You just found your natural gravitational position.
I always thought it was weird how they shamed traditional things and consumerism, but wore clothing inspired by decades past and bought a lot of fifties and sixties kitsch and drank overpriced beer.
Well you're missing an important part though: many of the businesses they supported they created themselves. So instead of buying from multinational coorporations they actually did put they money where their mouth was and created businesses doing fixed gear bikes, cofee, craft beer (which has become a huge business) and mens shaving products.
The same can't be said about all subcultures.
@@Soldano999 Good for them. And here I was thinking the majority of you (them) were annoying posers. I’m glad I was wrong.
Its called "good beer" and I don't even drink
Hey if there's one good thing the hipsters did it was foster an environment where craft beer exploded, I don't care so much for IPAs but I'll take that over bud light any day.
@@syzyphyz Fair point. I prefer wine and don’t drink beer. But I’m glad so many others have the options and privileges to purchases them.
I was a suburban punk in the early 80s. Now I can admit that I like disco.
I grew up in the 80s and detested music from that decade. Fortunately I'm rediscovering it lately. Guess you just gotta wait until you're ready to accept something.
I still love 80s music, especially Neue Deutsche Welle, which had a big influence on British New Wave.
I remember thinking how immature disco music was. Been obsessed with Italo-Disco recently.
When I heard actual lumberjacks (not guys that dress like they're going to a fancy dress party as lumberjacks, but guys who cut down trees for a job) discussing the merits of various craft beers I was genuinely happy.
I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay, I sleep all night and I work all day.
@@KarlSnarks The sleep of a laborer is sweet, whether they eat little or much, but as for the rich, their abundance permits them no sleep. (Ecclesiastes 5:12)
its irritating people call it the lumberjack look, flannel and jeans is the main outfit of the northern midwest
@@circleinforthecube5170why would you be irritated to be compared to a lumberjack? Oh, because you don’t have the muscles for manual labor? I understand, I’m sorry.
I once got asked if I was a hipster, I said no. Then I was told that was the most hipster response I could have given to that question. Couldn't argue with that I guess.
In the aughts, hipsters listened to indie. Then there were punks, crust punks, metalheads, goths, rivet heads, hippies/wooks, etc etc largely defined by the type of music they liked, except left activists for example, who were also a subculture. Hipsters were just one of the music sub cultures. Nowadays people kinda lump them together sometimes and call them all hipsters. So when you attribute things we have today to hipsters, it would be more accurate to attribute them to many subcultural elements.
Really well done piece! I will always have a soft-spot in my heart for the hipster culture. In fact, looking back, I believe I might've been one of the first hipsters. A proto-hipster if you will. (Which, ironically, is the most hipster thing ever to believe). Lived in San Francisco, shopped vintage, dressed like I was from the 1950's (bowling shirts, wingtip/ Oxford doc martins, fedora), always sported a mustache or goatee, sourced cutting-edge coffee shops and indie music stores, hung out in South of Market and Haight-Ashbury areas, listened to live jazz on weekends; and this was 1994-1997.
What happened? Eventually I left my edgy, avant-garde video game job and became a broadcast executive. Hugo Boss and Armani suits replaced my quirky hipster attire. Suddenly I was clean shaven, and reluctantly removed my two earrings. It would be cliché to say I became the very thing I despised, but life moves on. The universe tends to unfold as it should. The 30's happened, then my 40's. I got married and had a kid. Now I'm neither hipster nor corporate slickster. I'm just a dad, with all the "dad-bod" cliches personified: a wife, a kid, a mortgage, and two miniature dachshunds Dilly and Dally.
Life is a series of stages; we grow up step by step. But I was never as cool as my mid-20's, when I was a Beck-loving, video game making, SF based hipster.
We were doing the same thing NYC 1980s. Nothing new under the sun.
@@llw1066 you were making video games too?! Awesome!
Dude every executive and banker nowadays has earrings and a moustache and wingtip Oxford shoes. There's something you're not telling us.
I just asked my wife, "when did we last see a hipster?" and then she said, "when did we last go into a coffee shop? Before COVID, right?"
And that was it. That was the last time we saw any other people. Are there any more survivors?
😂
*loads pistol* Yes, is there anymore survivors?
Individualism isn't for everyone. The failure of the subculture is a perfect example of it.
These videos are the best man, thank you dude, would love to see back in time as well.mods rockers skinheads etc all good stuff 👍🏼
I was called a hipster once in 2015, i automatically said I’m definitely not a hipster, then got back to building a cafe racer Honda cb400T… I still buy clothes from second hand shops though cause recycling clothes that have lasted long enough to make it to the second hand shop just makes sense😂
I couldn't ever be a hipster. Having thick Jamaican sprinter legs, so I could never wear skinny jeans. Also I hate IPAs and most craft beers. Never understood the attraction of them.
@@danielebowman I can enthusiastically say that i am a fan of IPA’s. I prefer them over wheat, ale, pilsner, etc. Imperial Stouts are another that have become more popular and associated with this period. It’s actually my favorite beer.
Nothing wrong with either. I like a lot that would be considered hipster in its day, though do feel obliged to defend myself against the term. Gatekeeping anti-hipsters are/were as bad as hipsters, really.
I had a Honda CB400-4 cafe in San Francisco in the early 2000’s. I was about as far away from being a hipster as humanly possible then, but got “honorary hipster membership” at certain bars for riding it. Damn, I miss that screamer of a bike. Good luck on the T.
@@invade81 To me no video has really touched on the strangeness of the “hipster movement” because it’s more like an accidental combination of things compared to actual counterculture movements like punk. Even stranger and more interesting is the anti-hipster cultural phenomenon. I came back to the states from Germany in ‘11 and by ~’12 it was just this huge outrage. I myself was pegged on many of the points and didn’t even realize that these people who I thought had generally interesting/cool thrifty style, resourcefulness in general, were into jazz (aka arguably the greatest American art form), grassroots stuff like organic food and craft beer, environmental interests…etc…a bunch of actually positive and practical stuff(?!) was supposed to be so contestable. The most immediate reason for this that comes to mind is the air of self-righteousness becoming associated with it…and to call it that would lend merit to associated points so to dismiss all of it in a sweeping fashion they treat it like a goofy fast fashion, exploiting all the superficial aspects. It’s crazy!!!
Bo Diddley's very first band in the early 40's with Jerome Green was called "The Hipsters". (But then he sold out, learned how to play real good, helped invent Rock and Roll, the Bo Diddley beat an all that)
what a massive and nicely done footage sourcing and editing. thanks for this video. this was really really fun to watch.
I'm 48. I really liked the Indy bands in the 90s and the new Indy bands I find on Pandora and Spotify. I really liked the minimalist style of the Indy scene in the 90s. It seemed like a cool t shirt, jeans, some chucks or vans filled out the style for that scene. I think it still does. I really like the music. I just don't pay attention to all the other things that define a hipster.
When i was younger my mom ran programs for my city's library system for a few years and because of that i could get books from the book intake in the basement before they got processed for the library. I had a copy of that Norman Mailer book didn't realize how rare a physical copy of it was. Very interesting read
So rare, and it was literally underground 😄
What a perfect statement
"You come to realize that what you hate isn't a defining character trait." 100% true. I realized, growing up through much of this (exiting high school in 2014), that while I grew up loving older music, classic rock, disco, etc, I can still enjoy newer songs. Granted, I don't really listen to pop music on my own, but it's OK to be hanging with that certain group and enjoy riding along listening to rap. Sure, you aren't the biggest fan of rap, but it's the fact that you are all listening to it together and enjoying the moment that matters.
Another great video- I love the Nathan Barley references, too, apparently based on a little 'zine called "Hoxton Twat" which I once saw and regretably didn't get! I quite like creative counterculture, but when it gets too pretetious it becomes a parady of itself and not even in an ironic way.
I remember the first time someone told me they wouldn’t be going to a concert because the artist was too mainstream, it didn’t sit right and I didn’t understand until about a year later and then they were everywhere.
If he’d said No because I don’t like his music, I could understand that.
I used to see these people in Brooklyn growing up. Took over the streets with their bikes and opened up some actually good coffee shops. Crazy how Brooklyn changed once they moved in but prices in rent increased I ended up moving west. What a time the late 2000s to early 2010s were with hipster culture.
I feel like the hipster thing was more than a just subculture. Pretty much everyone who was youngish, lived in a slightly urban area, and was middle class could pretty much be considered a hipster at one point.
Hipsterism always had ill-defined parameters, and thus was a very big tent. It was quite an interesting cultural phenomenon in that sense.
And white or white aspiring
@@AmandaabnamA I don't know, I know lots of black people who seemed to be hipsters, like my sister for example. She avoided mainstream rap and went around listening to sort of out of the way funk/ alternative black musicians, like The Internet, or Anderson paak before he got really popular.
I don’t think it was that vague. I went to the University of Georgia, majored in English and loved coffee and reading so I overlapped with hipsters but they were distinctly different. Much of the student body preferred partying and sports, and the rest were mostly like me, even my TAs, who wore casual clothes and preferred alcohol to smoking. I went on exactly one date with a man I later realized was a hipster, and remember thinking, “A. Why does he smoke so much and look like he thinks it’s cool? B. Why are his skinny jeans so small that I couldn’t fit into them? B. Why does he seem to take pleasure in discussing bands and books I’ve never heard of, and glance around after he says something remotely intelligent like it makes him special? C. Why does he talk practically in a whisper and find it hard to finish a thought, as though he expects me to finish his sentences? Why does he have such a scraggly beard?” 😂 I am a basic b*tch who would never be considered chill so... I gotta push back. They were a tiny group inside of a massive student body in the hipster-friendly town of Athens, GA.
hipsterism will never die; it just changes.
yeah. I assume the title is just click-bait.
As a former hipster, I have gotten quite into mainstream music lately because this is now the "weird different music" to me. Hipsters naturally cultivate a circle of people who gravitate to underground music, so I don't have many friends who listen to mainstream music. So in this context, normal becomes weird. I guess in this sense I am still a hipster, but just in a less-
recognisable way.
I dont know - I think something accessible like Eminem will always be more listened to than Death Grips.
I too am a hipster almost against my will. It is just a facet of my personality. I am so deeply immersed in layer upon layer of irony that I can't even tell where my ironic love of something begins and where authentic love ends. But maybe my irony is my authenticity. I guess it doesn't matter much anyway.
The new underground music that more and more hipsters appreciate is ABBA.
Being independent doesn't mean you have to sound like shit. I never could make people in those circles understand this.
The top 10 billboard chart of last year was the blandest ever.
Hipsters turned out to be master consumers! they are at the barbershop and Starbucks all day with the matching Apple gear. But I must confessed I really love those 1800-1900 beards and mustaches that was awesome and made me feel we are back in WW1.
yeah but its bitches wearing them...
I mean, I have a sick beard. But that’s because I can’t allow my hair and beard to be cut or I can’t be raised to the throne.
In mid 2000’s I dated a girl that was blatantly Hipster. One night we were planning a date and she told me she totally hated Hipster lounges. Yet everything she did was the epitome of Hipster… vegan, jazz music, coffee shops, yoga, pet gecko, art studios, feminist rallies, cat eyeglasses, and madly in love with her cat. But she claimed to hate “Hipster lounges.” 9:40
But was the cat a hipster?
No no she was a wokester.
Run as fast as you can.
@@kristinazubic9669 I doubt it judging by her cat’s aloof attitude towards artisanal vegan cat food
@@Soldano999 Oh I did !
Sorry she dumped you😘😘😘
You produce some really good videos dude. Informative, fun, fast-paced, researched, entertaining... I love it. Thanks
idk so many people call me that i am a hipster, but with out know what the heck is being a hipster, so i deny it every time that i am not a hipster, until one day tired of hearing this word again and again finally i decide to search this term on the internet
then what i found was a description that suite the whole me
then i look for the visuals yeah i am dress like them without notice it
but i put so much effort to be like this
Wow, that really must suck!
That’s what I don’t like about all the immense hate that hipsters get.
Some people just naturally gravitate towards it. Not because they are trying to be nonconformists, but because that is who they are.
But the mainstream will see that and just automatically hate them with no higher thought when they are actually being authentic to themselves. So sad really.
Gotta love their support for small businesses like coffee shops and artists 🙌🏻
While complaining about capitalism on a Mac Book built with child labor in China.
There are no artists in this world today
@@jozefk.7720 💯 I saw it in Los Angeles they were pricing out people in poor communities.
I love the videos Jimmy . Keep posting high quality content .
As someone who loves folk rock, it was very annoying having these guys invade our music for like 10 years 😂 every band suddenly had a banjo and a kick drum and now they're all just back to whatever crappy electro dance pop they were doing before.
People are forced to defend their style and they will say something negative. When they say something negative they are accused of being a result of reduction. It's that process itself that is reductive. I've never always not been a hipster - just because I dress how I like. I'm not making a statement, I'm following function with style. Whatever weird hangups you have about how I dress are on you. I'm not doing it to stand out, I'm doing it to go out..of my house, because I can't be naked.
hipster culture cannabalised itself when people started emulating nerd traits performatively,.with a heavy emphasis on irony as a decoy for an actual lack of intelligence or originality. the people who were first wave hipsters are in the 40s now, and a lot of them are normal people now. it was just a subculture that made sense at the time, to celebrate the nerdish and the awkward. it was never meant to be cool and elitist.
It's an affectation, by it's very nature denying your point.
yeah the main reason it is less prevalent is because the people are 15 years older now, 40+
Hipsterism is elitism incarnate. Always was, still is, and will be.
@@danorris5235 agreed, everyone I met thought they were in some secret club with a ‘you wouldn’t understand’ sign on top of their head, latent immaturity into their late 20’s early 30’s at least grunge culture tore down inauthentic values of consumerism, hipsters embraced it buying expensive racing bikes, sunglasses overpriced faux vintage clothes and 5 dollar Peruvian Eco-Not double shot Eco-Not Soy Lite Latte Expresso Chino Enemas to the sounds of post-irony Belle & Sebastian Dross, no wonder they are now neo-con war mongering Biden voters who don’t care about workers rights or health care, they are the managerial lap top class double 🤮 🤮vomit.
It was never a subculture tho. It was as mainstream whteness as mainstream whteness gets: empty and misplaced pseudocultural superiority in full bloom.
I'm 30 so I guess I should have been a hipster when I was younger but it was always waaayy too middle class for me, I never understood the obsession with expensive bikes, coffee, vintage stores and everything. Especially because the gentrified hipster culture and all the neighbourhoods from Williamsburg to Melbourne to Estonia to London are exactly the same, all the bars, coffee shops, graffitis and stores too. I dont know whats the point of local small businesses if they are the same than every other hipster business everywhere else in the world :'D I would have enjoyed the hipster culture more if it was more affordable and more local and unique.
What should be unique if it’s truly local? The design? Are you referring mostly to aesthetics? Edit: like “all these bars, shops, etc. have the hipster look”…?
Very interesting video, thank you! I read a few comments and they seem to converge towards a notion I happen to share myself: in every society, at anytime, there is a vanguard, socially forward group of people (generally young) that don't feel happy with the mainstream ideas, tastes and way of life, and rebel against it (it has a lot to do with generation gap, but not only), but it's not only about rejection: at the same time they create and event new things, they come up with innovative ideas, new life styles, new forms of art, etc. And eventually these ideas SPREAD through the rest of society and become the new mainstream. This phenomenon, of course, has happened much more frequently since the end of the 19th century, as society started changing much faster than anytime before in history. So, it's not really about the DEATH of the hipsters, it's the exact opposite: the acceptance and expansion of hipster concepts that reached such a scope as to become mainstream, and no longer a niche culture. To buy clothes in thrift shops, eat organic and/or locally grown and vegetarian / vegan food, favor small independent businesses, smaller houses, self-made / refurbished furniture, prefer public transportation and bicycles, reject money-driven pop culture and trends that big corporations try to impose on society, all these traits are inherently good and have made their way to mainstream culture, which is the ultimate recognition of this set of values once labeled "hipster culture". One could say the same about the feminization of society, traits of gay culture becoming mainstream, traits of black culture becoming mainstream, traits of nerd culture becoming mainstream, and overall the rejection of one unique social model going hand in hand with the promotion of diversity.
Nothing about them was forward
I never tried to be a hipster. It sort of happened to me.
I lived in southern California in a very rural community. So I always wore jeans and pleated shirts. Easy, cheap, comfortable and lasts. Since the 1990s as a child actually. I also have bad eye sight and prefer regular square glasses. All the sudden in my mid 20s everyone started to dress like me, then they stopped a few years back.
I buy stuff from thrift shops because it’s cheap and it’s like treasure hunting. I kept all my retro gaming consoles because I enjoy playing my old games in their original hardware. Kept all my VHS for the same reasons.
I wasn’t trying to follow trends. I just like practical stuff. I didn’t even realize a was a hipster until an ex girlfriend pointed it out. I guess I’m a proto-hipster 😅
That’s always the best. Being cool befor it is cool
The OG hipster
You know what your doing yet you still act like a country bumpkin
@@thisgame2 my town has 10,000. It’s not an act. It’s backward as heck here.
Hah, only the ultimate hipster could find a way to say "I was a hipster before hipsters."
Only joking, I was that weirdo in a small town, too. People were so far off over there that the closest association any of them could make to what I was, was pre-hippy beat culture. They likened me to a beatnik. To me, the things I liked were just 'normal.' I was just kind of carving into whatever interested me, or just made good sense to do from my perspective.
My favorite part was later being accused of being a poser by actual hipsters. Terrence Mackenna was right when he said "Culture's not your friend." There was a point in time when I had to start avoiding people who looked and dressed like me, because suddenly there were all of these expectations attached to me that I never asked for, like suddenly I gotta measure up to someone else's ideas about things I've been into for years. I'm kinda just like "Oh, you thought I got bullied in school by people just like you over these same things that you now find cool for looksies?" I found it silly that people cared so much about the things considered part of the aesthetic. I think it's silly to care what common denominator crowds think about anything that matters to you as an individual, love it or hate it, hence why I put up with the bullying and didn't change.
To be totally honest, I think a lot of the hipster crowed WERE actually people who liked those things, and that just got overshadowed by trends at the time. More of a media image than an actual thing. I'm not convinced any of the stereotypes ever fully existed to begin with. People just saw it in media, looked out at the world, and projected it onto people. Once something becomes an aesthetic, it's a given that any people remotely fitting the mold will be judged both positively and negatively. Geez, maybe I am a hipster. It seems like every time something I like gets popular, it stops being for me - like, socially speaking it stops being worth putting out there, even if I'll still enjoy it on my own time. The latest casualties for me are anime and video game fandoms. I can't deal with those people and all of the expectations in terms of what takes fly, what people are getting into. They've kinda made it clear they don't want me. I've literally seen over 1000 anime shows and movies, nerd out heavy on all eras of gaming. But you won't catch me dead in those crowds... unless they decide to kill me in disapproval of how I consume and process entertainment themselves.
But that's not because I care THAT much about what people like or think of what I like, but because when all of these people get into that thing, they turn around and try to tell ME I'm somehow doing it wrong, when I was perfectly happy to be in my lane with my own interests and passions from the jump - people will move on and I'm still gonna be liking the same things. It gets tiresome, it got to a point where I dead snubbed people coming at me like that - I didn't feel like explaining/justifying my own personal enjoyment to people it doesn't benefit (i.e. people who are not me.) After enough people try to bring it to you over trivial superficiality, you do eventually start to see knowing those people as worthless. What sane person would take that seriously? Right? There's nothing you can say or do that can possibly satisfy someone who typecasts people like that. It was a huge relief to me when people moved on and stopped caring if someone looked like a hipster or not. Saves me a lot of meaningless arguments when I'm out trying to have a good time and connect with other people. I can share those things with people and they just appreciate the person that I am. Sometimes I think I enjoy talking with people who don't know anything about what I like, than the biggest super-fan of my favorite thing.
One day one of my friends told me: dude you never stopped being a hipster. You've just reached the final form: you're normcore now
Normcore 😂😂
love these videos about subcultures
I have never been one that really got into following the crowd per se; the '80s yuppie years, and then the hipster movement. It was always entertaining for me to watch them fall into their version of consumerism and never think about it.
I love this channel so much. Thanks for being so widespread in your topics, Jimmy!!
F*ck !!! I didn't know I was a hipster . I shop at thrift stores because I'm on disability & it's all I can afford .
My broke ass gas to hit the goodwills or Salvation Army some of these thrift stores be selling 40 dollar drink coasters🤣
so no, you're not, the thing is, a hipster would buy there without any dsability or need just to show off how humble he is, wich is not the case here
@@stricknice5260 Value Village is a good store if you have one near you.
There have been hipsters at least since the early 1900s. At times they go by the term hipster, at other times they go by other names. But there likely always has been and always will be a sub-set of humanity that chooses to live outside the mainstream, that values creativity, small community and reflects some traditions while embracing others. This isn’t the death of the hipster. It’s the end of the last cycle of hipsters.
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I feel the same about punk. It ain't dead. It's just napping off the hangover.
Hopefully the new round isn’t condescending and doesn’t make it their whole identity around mocking 90% of reality. I’ve been a barista myself and have never understood why artisan coffee shops seem to take pleasure in making people who don’t know everything they do feel like sh*t, rather than actually try to serve the customer in a kind way, which I suppose they think isn’t cool.
I believe they even found traces of the first hipsters in sumerian tablets.
@@abbyabroad i've been a client and i've never experienced that.
On the contrary people seemed passionate about what they were doing and hell bent about making a living out of it rather than finding some office job.
They aren't dead. They just moved to Berlin.
There were a couple of other dynamics of exhaustion:
1. Taking old things from more and more recent times (60s and 70s to 80s and 90s) until they eventually ended up at the present.
2. The core hipster aim, which was *authenticity*. Taking things that *symbolised* authenticity (beards, working class clothing etc.), but by using those things turning them into symbols only of being a hipster.
Thus the time difference and the authenticity difference both collapsed and left them just as people from the 2010s.
dynamics of exhaustion is the most hipster phrase ive heard
Here are a couple of similar trends that predated the modern hipsters. In the 80's you had the slackers (watch David Linklater's first movie Slackers - one of my faves). During that less economically deprived era, it was easier to either be a college student for as long as you liked, or you could move to a big city, and live for cheap (or even very cheap) in undesirable or industrial areas of town. These were the people who pioneered loft dwelling before lofts became a symbol of wealth and gentrification.
Also, in 2000, David Brooks wrote the book "Bobos in Paradise." Bobo is short for Bourgeoisie Bohemian. You can tell it's a great book, because it skewers all kinds of people and they all hate the book. Anyway, the book helped me understand why the frat boys wouldn't keep to themselves, and instead saw fit to come into the independent coffee shop where I hung out. In a nutshell, the thesis of the book is that people wanted to make money like a capitalist, but pursue the perogatives of bohemians, who value experiences over physical possessions.
Richard
loft dwelling was pioneered in the 50s with the abstract expressionists
Bobo's is the name for people who really are bourgeois but want to look like they're marco polo and have travelled the world (mostly for business).
I know of people who teached at the american school in katmandu and had all their furniture imported from nepal to their home.
I lived through the 80s punk movement. Similar start with truly unique fringe people - then pretty soon everyone was adopting the look and attitude and hanging out in sh"tty clubs listening to sh*ttier music.